1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butch podcast. I am your 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: host Claude harmon US Open week and the famed Oakmont 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: the tenth playing of the US Open at Oakmont. Listen. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: This is I think one of, if not the hardest 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: US Open venues they have. I think it's one of 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the hardest major championship courses in the game. I think 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: it's one of the hardest golf courses on the planet Earth, 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and the way that they 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: have it set up this week, it's brutal. There's just 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: no other way to kind of describe what it's like. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: The rough is brutal. The greens are going to be 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: firm and fast. I mean, these are greens by the 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: weekend might get up to thirteen fourteen fifteen on the 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: stint meter. It's been wet, They've had a lot of rain, 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: but I think the golf course is going to dry out. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: So one of the interesting things this week is the 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: golf course has been, believe it or not, pretty soft 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: so far through the practice rounds, and by the time 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Thursday comes around, it's going to be a different golf course. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be a different golf course than the 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: players have been practicing on the greens are going to 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: be faster. The greens are going to be firmer. The 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: fairways are going to be faster. The fairways are going 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: to be firmer. It's just a ridiculously hard golf course. 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: It's just no way about it. And if you look 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: at the scores. First US Open Championship nineteen twenty seven, 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Tommy Armor was your winner. Plus thirteen was the winning score. 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty five plus eleven, Ben Hogan nineteen fifty three 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: minus five. Jack Nicholas won here in sixty two minus one. 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Johnny Miller nineteen seventy three shot five under, Larry Nelson 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: eighty three, four under Ernie Els ninety four in the 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: playoff five under on Hell Cabrera two thousand and seven 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: to one here plus five, and then Dustin Johnson won 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the last time we were here almost ten years ago 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: at four under. I was out on the course today 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: walking the practice rounds. Gil Hants, the famed architect who 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: was in charge of the restoration here, he told me 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: he thought even parr was probably going to be a 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: safe bet winning score. You know, the membership here wants 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: it to be fifteen to twenty over. I mean, the 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: members at Oakmont are famous for loving the fact that 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: their golf course is really really difficult, is really really hard. 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: They'll tell anybody that will listen how fast the greens 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: are all the time. So I thought it was interesting 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: and talking to go Hants on what the USGA want. 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Do they have a score in mind? He said no. 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I asked him what he thought. He said even parr, 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: But he said I don't really have a score in mind. 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I just think even par sounds about right. But the 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: membership at all of these major championship venues want their 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: golf course to play as hard as humanly possible for 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the best players in the world. I don't know why. 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: I think it's an ego thing. It's not something that 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: I think is really cool. I just don't know why 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: they want the best players in the world to struggle 56 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: on a golf course that they struggle on. I guess 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I guess that it's such a hard 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: golf course and they play it that they want it 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: to be as difficult as possible. But the golf course 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: is almost two hundred yards longer than it was in 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. They've enlarged the greens by almost an average 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: of twelve hundred square feet. And when you think about 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: this golf course was made using a couple dozen mules 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: and one hundred and fifty men and they kind of 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: pushed all the dirt around. And talking to Gil Hans, 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: he was saying that the idea was to go back 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: and look at old aerial photos of kind of the 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: thirties and the forties. So they've tried to take some 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: of the greens back to what they originally were. But 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: it's just there's just no way to describe how hard 71 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: it is. Seven three hundred and seventy two yards long 72 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: now parse seventy And if you look at the last 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: nine winners, eight of them have something in common. And 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: the eight winners of this tournament have all been multiple 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: major champions. This is just a hard golf course to 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: get lucky on. Birdies are very very rare ego or 77 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the next thing possible unless you're holding out. 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: So I'm going to keep saying this on the podcast. 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: It's just hard. And in walking around the practice truts, 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean there is double, triple, quadruple bogie lurking on 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: all eighteen holes. Every single hole from start to finish. 82 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: So mentally you know that. I think the players know 83 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that going out right, they know that the winner is 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: going to have to deal with some crazy stuff. He's 85 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: going to have to make a lot of palls. The 86 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: winner is going to have to make a lot of 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: fifteen footers twenty footers for palls, because if you get 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: out of position here off the tee, if you get 89 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: out of position, I mean I was in a practice, 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: walking a practice. Who and watch Terrell Hatton miss a 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: fairway by five yards five steps? Really, I mean five 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: yards being generous, it's five steps. I've walked it off 93 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: five steps. Took us almost ten minutes to find it, 94 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: and when we found it it was so buried. He 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: tried to take a lob wedge, made the hardest swing 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: you can possibly make and maybe advance to the golf 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: ball three yards five at a push. And then if 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: you miss the greens, you're in really really deep rough. 99 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: You could get completely destroyed by the lie that you've got. 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: And then I think the issue here is the roof 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: is so thick that you have to be aggressive out 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: of the rough, otherwise the ball isn't going to go anywhere. 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: The club isn't going to go anywhere. So you have 104 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: to hit these shots around the green complexes here at Oakmont, 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: your chip shots, if you're in the rough, you have 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: to hit them so hard. But the fear is that 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: you're going to hit it so hard it's gonna go 108 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: over the green right and then you have to hit 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: another one. So the trap and the trick is to 110 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: hit the golf ball hard enough to get it out 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: of You'd much rather hit it on the green to 112 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: thirty forty feet then to not hit it hard enough 113 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: and not get out of the rough and have to 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: hit it enough. So you're going to see some crazy 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: short game stuff. I just don't know when the rough gets, 116 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: you know, five to seven inches long around greens where 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: they are very undulated. A lot of these greens either 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: slope from front to back or back to front, from 119 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: right to left or from left right, and I'm talking 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: severely pitched from front to back, back to front, left 121 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: to right, right to left, and the greens are going 122 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: to be running once the tournament starts. The greens are 123 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: going to be running thirteen fourteen, fifteen on the stip meter, 124 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: and it's going to be windy and it's going to 125 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: be hot, so they're going to bake out and it 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: is a very very difficult test of golf. Let's just 127 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: go through the holes. First hole, part four, just four 128 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: eighty eight. I mean, fairway isn't really big. It kind 129 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: of you hit out. You hit the fairway, then you're 130 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: hitting down the hill to a green that severely slopes 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: from front to back. So a lot players in the 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: practice rooms trying to figure out do they land it 133 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: short and then try and let it run. The thing is, 134 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: you want to be putting from the back portion of 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: this green, regardless of where the flags are, because then 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: you're putting uphill. If you're on the front part of 137 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: the green on one and the pin is anywhere on 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: the back, you're basically putting straight downhill and there's a 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of movement. So if you miss the green, you're struggling. 140 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean you're just struggling the next hole. Another part four, 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: three forty six. I think a lot of it will 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: be club selection off the tee. DJ in the practice 143 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: rounds who won here in sixteen. He hit one of 144 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: his seven woods just to make sure he got the 145 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: ball and play the Pharaohs pretty ride Noah Kent, who 146 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I teach the amateur. Noah almost drove the green twice, 147 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: so he was choosing driver to get it up there. 148 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: But that green slopes severely from back to front right, 149 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: and there's all these little nooks and crannies where you 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: can kind of put the pin on two right. So 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: I do think that accuracy off the tee is I'm 152 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: an accurac sea off the tee on all these holes 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: is going to be really really important. So I think 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: on two it's going to be how far up do 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: you want to try and risk getting the ball? So 156 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: obviously the closer you get it, the easier the chip shot. 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: I watched Scotti Scheffler in one of the practice rounds, 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: hit it to the middle of the green, had a 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: little bit too much spin this was on Tuesday, and 160 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: spin it all the way back off the green and 161 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: roll back and he had a twenty yard pitch shot. 162 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: So it severely, severely slopes from back to front. And 163 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: then the third hole on the left hand side of 164 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: the third hole the famous church pew bunkers. This is 165 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: one of the hardest par fours on the planet Earth. 166 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: Four hundred and sixty two yards uphill so you're hitting 167 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: to an upslope, and then the green has a massive, 168 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: massive false front, and a lot of the approach areas 169 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: here at Oakmont they're basically like putting green. They're rolling 170 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: ten on the putting green. So specifically on the third hole, 171 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: if the ball kind of gets on to the front 172 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: edge and then rolls off, it's going to roll a 173 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: long way. Then you're chipping back up the hill. You 174 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: obviously don't want to go over this green because in 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: sixteen it was basically just like the front it was 176 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: false front shaved down, so if you went over the 177 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: green you had the same thing. It would roll all 178 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: the way to the bottom part of the redesign and 179 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the restoration on three as they've taken out that back portion, 180 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: so it's just rough. They're going to tuck pins kind 181 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: of all over the place. And that's the thing about 182 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: these greens, and the green complex on the third hole 183 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: has a lot of slope to it from right to 184 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: left right, so where they put these pins, it's just 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: I just can't describe how hard it is. Fourth hole, 186 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: one of the par five's just six hundred and eleven yards. 187 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: You have to get this in play off. The tee 188 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: and then the green. I mean, really there are a 189 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: lot of slopes. There's a back portion to the fourth 190 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: green that's kind of on a little bit of a shelf, 191 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: and then everything around the back portion in the right 192 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: portion of the fourth green just basically falls off. But 193 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: you've got the church pew bunkers all the way down 194 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: the left hand side six hundred and eleven yards. I mean, 195 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: you've got to hit a really good drive to be 196 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: able to get to where you could go for it 197 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: the layup area. Most of the guys, if they can't 198 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: get to they're probably going to be going in with 199 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: something kind of right around one hundred and one yards, 200 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: around one hundred yards in two thousand and seven. In 201 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, easiest hole on golf course, So this is 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: one of the legit birdie chances. Everything kind of funnels 203 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: to the middle of this green, but they will tuck 204 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the pins on four. The par five kind of in 205 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of different unique areas. The fifth hole another 206 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: part four four hundred eight kind of a little bit uphill, 207 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: so you can't see the green. It's a blind t shot, 208 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: but it's kind of going to be a wedge. So 209 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: this is another of I think a birdie chance. I mean, 210 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: you definitely if you hit this fairway, your probably I 211 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: mean the three hundred yard mark is going to leave 212 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: you right around one hundred yards in. So I think 213 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of players will will kind of figure out 214 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: where they want to hit it off the tee. It's 215 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: the second smallest green on the property, so it's a 216 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: tiny green, but you're going in it with a short 217 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: iron or a wedge. The first of the par threes, 218 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: the sixth hole, downhill two hundred yards, you have to 219 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: hit this green. There is a lot of slope, I 220 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: mean a tremendous amount of slope here from right to left. 221 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: So anything on the right hand side is going to funnel. 222 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: The back right, I think is going to be an 223 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: interesting pin position because if you're trying to go at 224 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: that and you miss it, you are in severe off 225 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the bunkers around the sixth hole not a bad option. 226 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, Part three over two hundred yards, the seventh hole, 227 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: Part four four hundred and eighty five yards. They've put 228 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: a bunker that wasn't there in twenty sixteen on the 229 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: left hand side, and it's right around three hundred to 230 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: carry that. But this hole kind of plays into the 231 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: prevailing wind, so it's going to be into the wind. 232 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: But again you have to hit the fairway here. Three 233 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: hundred yards kind is going to give you that one 234 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: eighty to one seventy five range to a green that 235 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: is severely undulated and it slopes from left to right, 236 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: So on the previous hole, it slopes from right to left. 237 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: On the par four seventh, severe slope from left to right, 238 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: and the runoff area on the front portion of this 239 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: green kind of funnels. Anything on the left side of 240 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: this green to the front flags is going to funnel off. 241 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: A bunch of guys were going down in front of 242 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: the bunker on seven, down at the bottom and hitting 243 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: all the way up to the left hand portion and 244 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: letting it then roll back to where the flags were. 245 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: There's a right hand kind of a front right pin 246 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: position on seven that if you go at it, you'll 247 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: be challenging the bunker. So yeah, it's really really hard. 248 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: Part four almost five hundred yards long. The eighth hole 249 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: almost three hundred yards into the wind. I just don't 250 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: know how I feel about it. Three hundred yard Part three, 251 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, is there skill involved in that? I mean, 252 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a lot of skill involved 253 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: in that. I mean, there's no real club selection choice. 254 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: It's either going to be three wood for some players, 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be driver for a lot of players. 256 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: But again, a lot of area to run the ball onto. 257 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: The front of the eighth it's very flat, it's very 258 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: very firm, very very fast, but the green does kind 259 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: of pitch a little bit from back to front. And 260 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: then the ninth hole blind t shot ditch on the 261 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: left hand side of the fairway, So if you miss 262 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: a fairway on the left, you're in this kind of 263 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: ditch that runs all the way down from the clubhouse. 264 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: If you miss it to the right, you're in Bunker's 265 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: second hardest hole on the golf course last time they 266 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: were here. So it's a tough hole and it's uphill. 267 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: Bunkers on the right are no bargain. I mean, it's 268 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: just just one of the most demanding holes on the property. 269 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: So you get through the ninth, then you go the 270 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: downhill tenth part four four forty seven. It was one 271 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: of the narrowest fairways on the golf course. Bunkers on 272 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: both sides, and there's kind of a ditch that kind 273 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: of intersects, so the green severely slopes from right to 274 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: left and front to back. Birdie putts are almost non existent, 275 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: so downwind there is runout and you could run out 276 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: into one of these ditches. So I do think this 277 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: is one of the greens that you can use some 278 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: creativity with to depending on where you want to land 279 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the golf ball. But a very very difficult downhill par four, 280 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: and then the eleventh hole up the hill three point 281 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: ninety one, so you're hitting up to kind of a plateau. 282 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: If you don't get it all the way up on 283 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: the top of this plateau, then you're kind of hitting 284 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: off of an upslope on an uphill hole anyway, which 285 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: the ball can balloon on you. But the green is 286 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: somewhat flat. On eleven, there's a little bit of slope 287 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: from back to front and from left to right, but 288 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: it is one of the flatter greens on the property 289 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: at Oakmont, and at only four hundred yards. If you 290 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: hit a good t shot, hit the fairway, get it 291 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: up on the top. Yeah, I mean it's I don't know, 292 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: it's a makeable birdie putt, but second easiest green to 293 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: hit in regulation in sixteen seventy six percent of the 294 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: field hit this green, so again it's one of the 295 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: shorter holes, the shorter par four, and it gives you 296 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break. And then the two 297 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: par fives at Oakmont on the front six eleven, on 298 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: the back six hundred and twelve yards, it's going to 299 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: take three really really good shots. There's bunkers on both sides. 300 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: The green slopes severely from front to back, so any 301 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: shot into this green is extremely difficult. To hold the 302 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: green at the par five twelve, so you've got two 303 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: birdie chances on the par fives layups. You gotta make 304 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: sure you don't hit it in one of the there's 305 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: a bunker left of the green, so you've got to 306 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't hit it here. But a 307 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: lot of creativity around the green here. It's going to 308 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: take a lot of figuring out where to land it. 309 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Thirteen par three, one hundred and eighty two yards. The 310 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: green is almost I think it's forty two paces long, 311 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: bunkers all the way around it. Yeah, I mean you 312 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: got to stay below the hole. Anything that gets above 313 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: the hole at the thirteenth you're gonna be putting straight 314 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: down the hill, I mean, and so let's see, you've 315 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: got a birdie chance below the hole and you run 316 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: it three feet past right now, you've got a three 317 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: foot pot down basically a mountain on ice. That's how 318 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: fast the greens are, so you've got to keep it 319 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: below the hole. On the thirteenth, fourteenth hole another powerfuller, 320 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: one of the shorter portfols three hundred and seventy nine yards, 321 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: pretty much straight off to tea. It's going to give 322 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: you pretty easy shot. So this is one of the 323 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: easiest greens on the on the golf course. It's pretty 324 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: flat and it's a legit birdie chance. So the green 325 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: complex is easy compared to a lot of some of 326 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the other greens around here. There just aren't a lot 327 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: of birdie chances around this golf course or on this property, 328 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: so you have to take advantage of these opportunities that 329 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: you have. And the fourteenth with the green being pretty flat, 330 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: it's not super super long, it's a hole where you 331 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: could take advantage of it, and there are just so 332 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: few of those on this golf course. Fifteen pole another 333 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: part four five hundred and seven yards kind of a 334 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: blind t shot, and the fairway slopes pretty severely from 335 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: left to right, so amid to long iron. This is 336 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: a very big green. It's one of the biggest greens 337 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: on the golf course, almost fifty yards long, somewhat flat, 338 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: but there are little kind of slopes and knobs where 339 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: they can kind of put pin positions. Sixteen Part three, 340 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty six yards long. Yeah, long iron. 341 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: It's a big green. There is a severe false front 342 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: at the front, so anything on the front that doesn't 343 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: get on the putting surface, if it just gets on, 344 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: it's going to roll all the way back. So the 345 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: par fives are over six hundred yards, the par threes 346 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: over two hundred yards. I mean, it's just it's crazy hard. 347 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: This golf course is a couple of different strategies three 348 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve yard Part four, so a lot of 349 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: guys will be definitely going for the green. I mean, 350 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: unless it's massively into the wind. I think you're gonna 351 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: see everybody kind of take a chance and try and 352 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: see if they can somehow get it up there close, 353 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: maybe get on the putty surface and try and eke 354 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: out a birdie. If you lay up, you're laying up 355 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: kind of into that two fifty to kind of two 356 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: seventy five, range right around kind of one ninety. But 357 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: this is the smallest green on the golf course, so 358 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: drive a par four, but a very very difficult green 359 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: to try and get to. And then the iconic eighteenth hole. 360 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the best finishing holes in golf. 361 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: You just got to stand up and hit the fairway 362 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: and then stand up and somehow get the ball on 363 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the putty surface. So the clubhouse is in the background, 364 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: and you know, it's an old school golf course. It's 365 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: just it's hard. The eighteenth hole five hundred yards. Dustin 366 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: Johnson hit a six iron from one to ninety in 367 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: sixteen when he won, And yeah, it's I just I 368 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: can't say it enough that the test that this golf 369 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: course demands from your game, the test that this golf 370 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: course demands from your short game. You know, the USGA 371 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: want the golf course to test all elements of the game. 372 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: They want the players to have to hit all the 373 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: clubs in their bag, and they do like making us 374 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: opens difficult. And I think we're going to see carnage. 375 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: We are going to see some good shots, we are 376 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: going to see some birdies, But we are going to 377 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: see a lot of players struggling to make par. You're 378 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: going to hear the announcers say that is an unbelievable 379 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: up and down. That is an unbelievable par. It's just 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: that type of golf course. And when you go back 381 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: and you look at the people that have won here, 382 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, one of the greatest players of the modern 383 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: generation on hell, Cabrera doesn't get nearly the credit he 384 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: deserves for the ball striking he had. Ernie L's winning 385 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: here in nineteen ninety four, Ben Hogan's won here. Jack 386 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Nicholas is one here. So this is a big boy 387 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: golf course that demands great play from great players. And 388 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: the way that Rory drove the golf ball last week, 389 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: the way he drove the golf ball at Quail Hollow, 390 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: He's been talking about trying to find a driver because 391 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: his driver failed testing at the PGA. If Roy doesn't 392 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: drive it good here, he's going to struggle. Everyone is 393 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: going to struggle if they don't drive it well here. 394 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: But for the favorites, guys like Rory, guys like Scotti, Scheffler, 395 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: all the superstars, you have to drive it well and 396 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: then you have to be really, really smart with your irons. 397 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: You've got to put it in positions to where you've 398 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: got to think about, Okay, if I could try and 399 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: get this close but be above the hole, is it 400 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: more prudent to be below the hole? And then I 401 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: can be a little bit more aggressive with the putt 402 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: because the golf course over the four days is going 403 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: to change a lot. It's going to get firmer, it's 404 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: going to get faster. So I think you will see 405 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: the usual cast of characters on the leaderboard. This golf 406 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: tournament always grows up someone maybe that isn't a household name, 407 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: isn't a superstar, but expect chaos. This is golf chaos 408 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: in its purest form. And I think the winner here 409 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: will also have to win the golf tournament, win the championship, 410 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: hold the trophy, be a major champion. He'll have to 411 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: win it not only with his body, with his stamina, 412 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: but he'll have to win it with his mind as well, 413 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: because you have to think your way around this golf course, 414 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: and it's the type of golf course to where you 415 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: just cannot switch off. There are no holes out here 416 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: where you can go Okay, I can just cruise through 417 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: three or four holes here and just you know, make 418 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of pars. Every single hole here. It seems 419 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: like it's a struggle to make par, and that's what 420 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: the USG likes. The members here love it. The players 421 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: are and needs time off after this one, because as 422 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I said, this is a big, big ballpark. It's a 423 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: big boy golf course. And the winner here this week 424 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: at Oakmont for the twenty twenty five US Open, he 425 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: will have had in My uncle Dicky used to say, 426 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: he will have to golf his ball, and I'm excited. 427 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: It's going to be a war of attrition. You're going 428 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: to see some crazy stuff. You're going to see some 429 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: big numbers from the best players in the world. And 430 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: the third major of the year. I think the majors 431 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: that we've had up to this point pretty damn good. 432 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: And I'm expecting the same thing this week. So hope 433 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: everyone enjoys the twenty five US Open from Oakmont. It's 434 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: always a privilege and pleasure to be here. And yeah, 435 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: buckle up, kids, this will be exciting. It's the Son 436 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: of a Bitch podcast. We will come to you next 437 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: week with a wrap up of the third major of 438 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: the year,