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Speaker 1: at John Cobelt Radio. Well, I was talking earlier in

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Speaker 1: the last half hour about just the tremendous struggle that

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Speaker 1: people in Altadena and the Palisades are going through because

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Speaker 1: they have been dispersed all over southern California, and many

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Speaker 1: people dispersed all over the country, and there is just

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Speaker 1: no clear way on how to rebuild. It's in the

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Speaker 1: It's excruciating how long it takes to deal with the

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Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles or the county and get permits.

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Speaker 1: Rick Caruso as engineered to deal with an Australian software company.

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Speaker 1: He got Gavin Newsom to push it as well, basically

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Speaker 1: forcing local officials here to accept AI for the permitting

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Speaker 1: process and maybe that's going to speed things up. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk now David Howard. David is a sales manager here

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Speaker 1: at KFI and iHeart for many years. He lost he

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Speaker 1: and his family lost everything in the fire, and he

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Speaker 1: has been going to all the meetings in Zoom meetings

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Speaker 1: just how how incompetent like the Bass administration is, how

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Speaker 1: big are the roadblocks and what is anything changing? So David,

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Speaker 1: how are you welcome?

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Speaker 2: Hey John, how are you well?

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Speaker 1: Give us a state of the rebuild address here? What

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Speaker 1: is going on? It seems like there's a brick wall

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we can do an eight hour podcast,

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Speaker 2: probably an eight hour podcast, but before we get into it,

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Speaker 2: I thought you'd be happy to hear that or find

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Speaker 2: is pretty laughable. Yesterday we received a notice of for

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Speaker 2: wanted to see proof of brush clearance. So what I'm

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Speaker 2: news clips from the January seventh fire, and I'm going

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Speaker 2: And then they had the out of the warm, the

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Speaker 2: kindness of their heart. They asked to for me to

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Speaker 2: send them additional thirty five dollars as well. So when

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Speaker 2: you talk about incompetence, the fact that that even left

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Speaker 2: fact that taxpayers are paying for that mailer is just

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Speaker 2: another level of somebody's not minding the store. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can't make that.

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Speaker 1: One not brush No, No, that fire was pretty effective,

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Speaker 1: brush clearance. What do they want the thirty five dollars for?

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Speaker 1: They want to buy lunch for themselves?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 1: What's the thirty five bucks?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's for Bess's reelection committee. I'm not really sure,

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Speaker 2: I think it's important that the PCH gets opened up

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Speaker 2: because Malibu is literally dying on the bune in those

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Speaker 2: By part of taking away the CHP at taking away

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Speaker 2: the National Guard puts the LAPD in charge, and Bass

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Speaker 2: out today is you're not going to believe this. There's

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Speaker 2: a forty five million dollar RFP being circulated. What's an

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Speaker 1: Huge yeah, yeah, ten million dollars. And then when you

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Speaker 2: And he couldn't really point to any one thing that

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Speaker 2: AI can come in and literally can do this for us.

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Speaker 2: Get you know, take five million, put it to the

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Speaker 2: Put it back into the infrastructure to build the Palisades,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly now to protect it because as things

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Speaker 2: they're all very nervous, as are their potential home builders.

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Speaker 2: Right that once you build one sall sites start to

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Speaker 1: So climing having she doesn't have the money for LABD

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Speaker 2: But she has a flush fund. And that flush fund

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Speaker 2: Because I know firsthand of people that have literally seen

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Speaker 2: the RFP and have talked to the County Board of Supervisors.

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Speaker 2: It's there the city, it's there, and it's being right now.

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Speaker 2: It's in people's hands and they're you know, going through

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Speaker 2: the bidding process. So John, where's the money going? Like

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. I can't figure out. Where's the money going,

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Speaker 2: Where's the fire aid money going? Where's all the money

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Speaker 2: Army Corps has done a really good job of clearing lots.

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Speaker 1: What do you hear about his his idea he got

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Speaker 1: think Caruso's nonprofit is paying to have this AI dramatically

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Speaker 2: No, we've heard about it, we haven't. We know that

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Speaker 2: the mayor's office keeps talking about AI to expedite permitting,

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Speaker 2: but we haven't seen it. The other thing that Rick offered,

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Speaker 2: check the checkpoints, right, because a paper literally a xerox

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Speaker 2: Anybody could do that in Maribeth's office decline they didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, but she doesn't have anybody that's going to do this.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't know. She's not very bright. She doesn't know

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Speaker 2: Right, But that's why she needs to step aside on

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Speaker 2: the people that do know what's going on take over.

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Speaker 2: And it's just it's just one big giant quagmire where

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Speaker 1: It's shameful what happens when somebody sends in a permit?

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Speaker 1: Now it just disappears into the bureaucracy. How long does

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Speaker 2: To my knowledge, there's still very few permits that have

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Speaker 2: But and that it's a very simple thing. You get

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Speaker 2: more of a result. I think of some contractors and

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Speaker 2: But my hope is and our hope is that you know,

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Speaker 1: How do you keep your spirits and energy up through this?

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Speaker 4: Because I talked to you it's been four and a

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Speaker 2: You know, it is if you let it be a slog.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you find out kind of what you're

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Speaker 2: made of, and you find out and it's really it's

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Speaker 2: not about me so much as yeah, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: take care of my family as well. But really there

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Speaker 2: are people that really care and are dedicated, and you know,

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Speaker 2: not everybody's going to have the voice to step up

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Speaker 2: or people are. You know, there's a lot of frightened people.

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Speaker 2: were you know, their financial situation is not what people

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Speaker 2: sometimes perceive it to be. Insurance is a major issue, John,

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Speaker 2: in terms of undercoverage. And I spoke to one of

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Speaker 2: the bigger builders today who actually, I think you'd really

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Speaker 2: enjoy having on your show because he has some insight

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Speaker 2: that goes away about my pay grade in terms of

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Speaker 2: some of the roadblocks. But he's his you know, his clients.

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Speaker 2: He's built really really nice homes, and all these people

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Speaker 2: are under insured and they don't know what to do,

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Speaker 2: and the insurance companies are now trying. It's in the herd, right,

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Speaker 2: They're trying to see who's going to fight and who

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Speaker 2: hands and so they just I think I heard you

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Speaker 2: that had I think already to date in what five months,

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Speaker 2: six months, seven different adjusters, six different adjusters, and they

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Speaker 8: Not only has John turned me into an anti incrementalist,

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Speaker 8: but now I'm also an anti incumbent. Thanks John. If

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Speaker 8: you are not illegal citizen of the United States of America.

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Speaker 8: You should not be allowed to vote here.

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Speaker 2: That's just like.

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Speaker 8: Saying here open borders.

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Speaker 1: Everybody could come vote from any country and overthrow our government.

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Speaker 1: This is all we have. Gavin Newsom out here campaign.

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Speaker 6: For president while California is literally on fire.

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Speaker 5: But hey, as long as his hair looks good, that's all.

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Speaker 1: He cares about. You know, I drove out the pothole

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Speaker 9: Fix the stake, Gavin.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we've got to custom slack to this Amazon driver

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Speaker 9: Tell you it's a great day.

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Speaker 2: I hear that Gavin Newsom has discovered that the homeless

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Speaker 2: That's Fan Johnson.

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Speaker 1: California love illegal as criminals and vagrants. Every illegal zone

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Speaker 3: So I'm watching Gavin Newsom give his speech today about

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Speaker 3: Bs to us and get away with it.

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Speaker 1: When he's the one creating it?

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Speaker 8: Governor Newsom finally cares about homelessness and.

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Speaker 10: People camping around and everywhere and injecting themselves.

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Speaker 1: Dude, your daily nippella short, your failure.

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Speaker 8: I have a terrific idea. I demand every government official

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Speaker 2: And then have to take a bus to Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: That mental change things.

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Speaker 5: I think the Ananda's.

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Speaker 8: Brothers deserve to stay right where they are.

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Speaker 6: And they should run in jail.

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Speaker 9: They have no business getting out, and once again California,

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Speaker 9: looking like a bunch of liberal crazies, are going to

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Speaker 2: They're going to walk the streets just like OJ Simpson.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what's wrong with people in this state.

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Speaker 8: I really don't. Thirty dollars an hour increase for hotel

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Speaker 2: And it's designed to put businesses out of business.

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Speaker 8: So that's a California.

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Speaker 2: Government can take over their properties.

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Speaker 9: So we still have Jennie kennotates running the Department of

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Speaker 9: within five years we'll have half of a police department.

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Speaker 9: Thanks a lot dance, you idiots, yam and do.

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Speaker 8: Some of the worst governor in America. That's how I

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Speaker 2: Listen for addicts, for alcoholics, very very simple.

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Speaker 1: Get your rear end to that meeting Jesus Coin of

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Speaker 2: Buddy, Jesus Christ Almighty.

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Speaker 10: His policies are just sending it around nonprofits that his

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Speaker 10: LASA and how that CEO was funding two and a

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Speaker 1: Dollars to her husband. This is just doing the same thing.

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Speaker 6: He's just funding all his friends.

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Speaker 7: I was born and raised in California and now in

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Speaker 2: Had no insurance, so I applied for Obamacare, which just started,

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Speaker 2: But immigrants don't have to repay it.

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Speaker 7: All that's fair.

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Speaker 8: We talked the other day about how much you hate

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Speaker 8: a great thing. Those people should have been locked up

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Speaker 1: one crazy family, the Menendez family. The father was probably

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Speaker 1: You want to see me on my wife's video show,

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Speaker 1: go to Debora Cobet Live on YouTube or Facebook. The

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Speaker 1: chronic understaffing for years, and now there's a string of

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Speaker 1: tech outages. So first they ran out of bodies, and

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Speaker 1: now all the technology is failing because out of that

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Speaker 1: seven and a quarter trillion dollars that they spend every year,

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Speaker 1: these days, they don't spend anything on air traffic control.

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Speaker 1: He said, there's there's a few people who've taken leave

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Speaker 1: because they keep having tech glitches. It interrupts the radios,

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Speaker 1: the radar, the backups. They're all afraid of a catastrophe

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Speaker 1: every minute. He's a supervisor at the Terminal Radar Approach

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Speaker 1: Control TRAYCON, so he handles traffic for small regional airports

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Speaker 1: outside of Newark, and he has to toggle back and

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Speaker 1: forth between supervising other controllers and tracking the moving dots

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Speaker 1: on his radar scopes. And he says it's like a

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Speaker 1: video game, but it's like playing three D chess at

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty miles an hour. We're the guys

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Speaker 1: that are guiding your pilots home. Now, for that four

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars you're sacrificing a lot. Sixty

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Speaker 1: hour work weeks. You give up nights, weekends, holidays, birthdays, everything,

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Speaker 1: Your mental and physical health takes a toll. There is

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Speaker 1: no reason to be driving these guys into a nervous breakdown.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they can't hire plenty of military and

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Speaker 1: technically trained people, or it's set up a school. I mean,

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Speaker 1: with these kinds, with what these jobs pay, and with

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Speaker 1: all the tech oriented people we have in society now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at Silicon Valley. I mean it's it's

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Speaker 1: like a couple of generations now of guys who know

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Speaker 1: how to do this stuff? How come there? See? Why

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Speaker 1: do we have so much talent working at Facebook? Where

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Speaker 1: they what are they? What are they produce?

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Speaker 8: Likes?

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Speaker 1: Thumbs ups? That's what they produce is likes and posts instead?

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Speaker 1: How about guys who can land planes and avoid mid

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Speaker 1: air collisions? Are Round two of the Moistline had a

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Speaker 1: really good first round there. People very very focused, very strong.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what round two is like coming up next.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI A six.

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about the Newark air traffic controller

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Speaker 1: who had you know, admitted he had to take a

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Speaker 1: trauma break because two airplanes were within seconds of a

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Speaker 1: head on mid air collision, because he is so overworked.

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Speaker 1: He's got too many screens and too many people to oversee.

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Speaker 1: He also went on to say that you can only

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Speaker 1: really do this for about two hours at a shot,

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Speaker 1: because then you start losing focus and getting tired. And

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Speaker 1: when those two planes nearly hit each other head on,

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Speaker 1: he'd been working more than three hours without a break.

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Speaker 1: And then at Denver they had another glitch. Pilots could

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Speaker 1: not speak with air traffic controllers for six minutes. Twenty

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Speaker 1: pilots were en route to the Denver airport and none

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Speaker 1: of the twenty could speak to any of the air

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Speaker 1: traffic controllers. There was a multiple radio transmitter outages. Disaster

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Speaker 1: was averted when a controller was able to contact one

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Speaker 1: pilot on an emergency channel, which normally is used when

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Speaker 1: a pilot in distress, and then that pilot contacted the

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Speaker 1: other pilots who are trying to land. Everybody started changing frequencies.

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Speaker 1: There you go seven and a half trillion dollars we're

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Speaker 1: going to spend this year. All right, it's time for

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Speaker 1: the second round of the Moistline eight seven seven moist

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Speaker 1: eighty six. If you want to be on next week

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Speaker 1: eight seven seven moist eighty six, let's do round two.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Jehn, thanks for calling the moistline.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to hear from you fromout Come.

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Speaker 2: I heard you talking about gas potentially going up to

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Speaker 2: eight fifty plus a gallon.

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Speaker 8: Let's not forget our Our electric rates are significantly higher

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Speaker 8: as well as our water and.

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Speaker 2: Gas bills thanks to Newsome and CARB and all the

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Speaker 2: other schools in Sacramento. Hey, I'm a delivery driver. Could

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Speaker 2: you guys get me Gavin Newsom's home adreads so I

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Speaker 2: can take a giant on its presidential dreams.

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Speaker 5: Wow, did I hear Gavin Newsom's saying all that straight base?

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Speaker 8: He is really sick. He's shit, He's truly wired long.

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Speaker 2: My god, he's a true socio app Donald listening to

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom talks.

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Speaker 6: About the bs he's speeling.

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Speaker 5: On my way home from Marcus Short. He's got one.

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Speaker 9: It's shut.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, you know he's not.

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Speaker 6: Going to get any blowback from his Democratic friends because

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Speaker 6: they already know he's just saying this so he could

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Speaker 6: become president and He's going to make it up to

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Speaker 6: them so their shielding.

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Speaker 9: He could stay whatever he wants.

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Speaker 5: They don't be okay, who cares if the Menentz brothers

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Speaker 5: have been rehabilitated, or.

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Speaker 1: If they're walking around with the therapy dogs, or if

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Speaker 1: they've been educating and have degrees.

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Speaker 5: Now, who cares?

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Speaker 2: They still need to pay for their crimes.

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Speaker 7: Where are all the illegals living our housing crisis?

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Speaker 1: Where do you think they live? They took all of

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Speaker 1: our housing. Why is nobody talking about that?

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Speaker 2: Over a million illegal Elians getting re healthcare?

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Speaker 6: That's just boy.

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Speaker 3: You know what, We're paying twice as much because don't

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Speaker 3: forget we have to pack for our.

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Speaker 2: Own healthcare and bears.

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Speaker 1: That's just so wrong.

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Speaker 8: That's why I'm leaving California in.

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Speaker 2: August, and I'm heartbroken because.

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Speaker 8: I'm a third generation California Great.

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Speaker 6: So those guys can spend one hundred dollars a month

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Speaker 6: just for coming across the border. I've had to work

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Speaker 6: to last forty plus years to get health insurance and

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Speaker 6: retire and still pay one hundred and fifty dollars a minimum.

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Speaker 6: Life is great in California. Why do we allow Governor

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Speaker 6: Newsen to stay in office. Why is he above the law?

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Speaker 8: We all know he's a crook and the ambezelous citizen's

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Speaker 8: money and laundry, it is back in his own pocket.

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Speaker 6: On he can't account where the money went. We all

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Speaker 6: know where the money went. He buries it.

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Speaker 8: Maybe when gas costs to seven to eight bucks the gallon, time.

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Speaker 9: For the Gavin recom Maybe there'll be some momentum.

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Speaker 1: People are so pissed off about.

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Speaker 2: What they're paying for gas.

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Speaker 5: You know, you don't have to be a rocket scientist

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Speaker 5: to solve the homeless problem. Just five bunch of property

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Speaker 5: out in the desert. Give everybody a tent. Put all

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Speaker 5: the homeless people out there. Every day you drive around

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Speaker 5: the bus, you pick them up and ship them out.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, mister.

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Speaker 9: George gask Always.

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Speaker 4: If you wouldn't have filed those papers and then this

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be getting out, it's all you, and thank you

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Speaker 4: for your final.

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Speaker 9: View ureus Calafodia. The problem is everybody in California is

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Speaker 9: a dump.

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Speaker 6: That's why I knew some still there. I just listened

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Speaker 6: to that new some things.

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Speaker 4: He's an idiot.

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Speaker 9: Everybody in California is an idiot.

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Speaker 10: We Californians have got to stop pretending that are one

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Speaker 10: percent property taxes some.

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Speaker 1: Sort of bargain.

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Speaker 8: We still pay some of the highest taxes in the nation.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for leaving your message.

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Speaker 2: Please hang up.

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Speaker 5: Goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Boy that knew some press conference or he discovered homelessness

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Speaker 1: that really didn't go over well, ah, well, that was good,

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Speaker 1: very good. Eight seven seven moist eighty six for next

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Speaker 1: week eight seven seven moist eighty six, or you can

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Speaker 1: use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. And remember

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Speaker 1: after four o'clock we will download the podcast and you

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Speaker 1: can listen to it anytime this weekend and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Monday. Conway is Next Grocer has the news

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Speaker 1: live the twenty four hour KFI News Center. Hey, you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can

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Speaker 1: always hear the show live on KFI Am six forty

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Speaker 1: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.