1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Six. Who's scanning the NFL posco. Here's Heckler and that 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: is who just refuse him to go down? Touchdown Chargers. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Scott hits it, hangs it high, it's short and head, 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: a loose fall, no signal yet and a colossal Chargers. Gosh, 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Harris will step it. That's good. Scott puts it down. 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: That's It's God and the Chargers win it and overtime. 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Dustin Hopkins not the hero we asked for, but the 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: hero we deserved. On Monday Night Football nineteen sixteen, Chargers 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: over the Broncos. I'm Greg Rosenthal here with producer Justin Graver, 10 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: late in the l a night as the traffic files 11 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: out of Sofa I Stadium. And yes, you heard those 12 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: highlights from Troy Aikman and Joe Buck and early on 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: you could almost hear the childlike glee in their voice. 14 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: Here's a football game with touchdowns and back and forth, 15 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: and by the end you just here Troy with a 16 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: hopeful I think it hit him on the punt return 17 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: that was fumbled, because that was the only way that 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: this game was gonna end. There were zero first downs 19 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: in overtime. I'm not even gonna email NFL research. That's 20 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: the first time I'm aware of that's that that's ever 21 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: happened in a team managed to win the game. My god, 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: justin Graver. The Broncos have away of just sucking the 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: life out of these games, and this game started so 24 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: different and then it just ended in the same way 25 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: that I believe all Broncos games are destined to end 26 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: until they end this Nathaniel Hackett Russell Wilson partnership. Yeah, 27 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: the good news is the Broncos only have one more 28 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: prime time game and they can flex it out. They 29 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: do have a London game, which is like morning prime 30 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: time and it's only in two weeks. And I don't 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Russell Wilson's having a Kirk Cousins primetime thing, 32 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: but I do believe that you could see the weight 33 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: of the world on his shoulders at the end of 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: this game. You can also see his teammates Jerry Judy 35 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: grumbling uh to his teammate about not getting the ball, 36 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: and Melvin Gordon sitting there with his helmet off after 37 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: getting benched and sulking for the entire game. It is 38 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: incredibly bad vibes, and I can't help but notice that 39 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: the one good game Russell Wilson did play this year. 40 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: It was a few weeks ago, just that, like four 41 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: oh five, and you know, Greg Gumbel was on the call. 42 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: No one even noticed. I swear Russell Wilson played fairly 43 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: well in that game. And we'll get to the Chargers. 44 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: They found a way to win. Here. We spend the 45 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: whole off season talking about how Russell Wilson's gonna fit, 46 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: what's Nathaniel Hackett's offense gonna be, Like, what about all 47 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: these off season additions for the l A Chargers? Are 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: they the best roster in the league. Is Brandon Staley 49 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna stay as aggressive? And then you get to the 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: actual season. Half of each of these teams are missing, 51 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: and the game comes down to just Sear Taylor, a 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: special teamer on the Chargers, making a heads up play 53 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: by pushing uh the Denver Broncos blocker who is right 54 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: in front of the punt returner Montreal Washington, just pushing 55 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: the blocker into Washington. Washington fumbles it, And like I said, 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I think that was the only way this game was 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna end, because at that point in the game, we 58 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: had had four straight three and outs in overtime and 59 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: we had had seventeen straight possessions without a touchdown, and 60 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: everyone is saying, how could this happen? And this is 61 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: all these bad prime time games, and it has been 62 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: bad luck, and Russell Wilson being on primetime four times 63 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: is a huge part of it, because he's the biggest 64 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: um mess right now, biggest disappointment in the NFL. But 65 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I also think it is something about this season which 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: is unique to me, which is that offense in the 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: passing games have taken a step back, and there's been 68 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: more games like this. In general. We we see it 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: for halves at a time, Broncos do it for entire 70 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: games at a time, but like that Packers Jets game 71 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: was three three at halftime on Sunday, and there's just 72 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: more of this, and there's data to back it up 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: that the numbers passing the ball have dipped precipitously uh 74 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: lower yards per play, yards per attempt than there's been 75 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: And I believe over sixteen years since that two thousand 76 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: and seven Patriots team helped change the way offense really 77 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: looks in the NFL, there are more games like this, 78 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: and so as bad luck as we've had, Gray ever, 79 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: with these prime time games, like it's kind of part 80 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: of the story of this NFL season and what we 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: talked about with with Dan about power rankings that there's 82 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of teams in the middle. There's not really 83 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: much separating this four and two Chargers team from the 84 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: two and four Broncos team. But the Chargers are feeling 85 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: much better about themselves tonight. Right And another issue with 86 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: offensive play right now, I think offensive line play in 87 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: general is down, but you also are dealing with left 88 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: tackle injuries across the league. Tyrn Smith, Taylor Lawan, Rashawn Slater, 89 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Garrett Bulls, Joe note Boom, all those guys are expected 90 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: to be done for the year. Two of those are 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: the left tackles that we're supposed to be playing tonight 92 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: that weren't out there, So that makes it harder to 93 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: great point here, you know, Gravers filling in. We we 94 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: had some scheduling, uh snaff foods, and right as we're 95 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: about to start the show, you know, yeah, me and 96 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: Graver doing it tonight, and he just goes feel free 97 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to carry the load. It's like, thanks, thanks, I will 98 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: feel free for that. But look, you've deserved to get 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: more carries. You're like Lottavius Murray putting Melvin Gordon on 100 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the bench. Like, not that Lottavius Murray is the greatest 101 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: player in the world, but he had some juice there tonight. 102 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: He was one of the few offensive players that I 103 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: think you can say had a good night because I 104 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: think he earned himself a role on this team moving forward. 105 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: Just about no one else did it that. And it 106 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: was a great point you made on the offensive lines, 107 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: because that was a key part of this game. The 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Broncos pass rush pressured Justin Herbert at the third highest 109 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: rate of his entire career. Now you wouldn't totally think 110 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: that because he was only sacked two times, but he 111 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: did a good job getting rid of the ball. They 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: were throwing the ball so short, and so many people 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: like myself are upset about what they're doing to our 114 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: beloved Justin Herbert with this insanely low average depth of 115 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: target and these insanely uh low average completion He completed 116 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven passes out of fifty seven attempts for only 117 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty eight yards. But part of the 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: reason that that's the case, and part of the reason 119 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: they were running the ball on first and second down 120 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: so often late in the game they didn't run the 121 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: ball much. But when they got the ball in overtime 122 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: in field goal range, they ran it on first and 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: second down. And I'm thinking, let Justin Herbert win the 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: game for you, but I think they were afraid of 125 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: that pass rush at that point, which the Broncos were 126 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: winning snap after snap, and so they thought, let's just 127 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: run it twice, Let's lose three or four yards, then 128 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: let's hurt. Let Herbert bail us out with a really 129 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: good pass to Mike Williams under pressure for nine yards. 130 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: And that was about like as close as we got 131 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: to a highlight there, because that made it shorter for 132 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: Dustin Hopkins, who was playing through an injured hamstring, and 133 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: he hits it for thirty nine yards. He was Hopkins. 134 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the way he fell to the ground after 135 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: every kick, it was dramatic, was crazy. I was just thinking, like, 136 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: this game is gonna end in a time, because even 137 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: if the Chargers kick a field goal here, like, can 138 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: we trust that Hopkins is healthy enough to kick it well? 139 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: But he was putting everything he had into that they 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: were getting better each and every time he suffered the 141 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: injury early in the game. The first field goal he 142 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: took was the thirty seven yard or at the end 143 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: of the second quarter, and yes, he fell to the 144 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: ground in pain. They had a they had their punter 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: do a kickoff where it just dribbled through somehow for 146 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: a touchback. It was so ugly, but luckily, like the 147 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Broncos barely scored the rest of the game, so it 148 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: didn't really matter. And Hopkins got stronger and stronger as 149 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: it went. And so again like a clutch kicking performance 150 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: is the best we could do on this Monday night football. 151 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: But you have to reserve a spot in the kicker 152 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: club for Dustin Hopkins. I mean, he was the toughest 153 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: guy on the field, Yeah, he was. And like looking 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: at the buck score and seeing Justin Herbert coming in 155 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: at four point two yards per attempt and it was 156 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: something like the the average um you know, per completion. 157 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: He completed thirty seven passes. To do the math there 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: that out that's outrageous, and yet he was by far 159 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this game. Well, we're gonna get 160 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson quickly, and I'm sure people don't really 161 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: need to hear that much about this, but but we're 162 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: going to give it anyways. But here quickly are some 163 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: of the uh the chargers like targets and yards. Joshua Palmer, 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: I've just made a couple of good catches here, but 165 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm not in love with the way he runs after 166 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: the He's a number three, and right now they're asking 167 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: him to do more. He's twelve targets, nine catches fifty 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: seven yards. Ekeoler sixteen targets, ten catches forty seven yards. 169 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: Gerald Everett seven targets for twenty nine yards on five catches. 170 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: Mike Williams, their best player, six targets for seventeen yards 171 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: on two catches. Those are just shut down by pat 172 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: Sir Tan absolutely, but I think it would have served 173 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: them well, as Troyman was pointing out, to give him 174 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: a few more chances, especially when they were in field 175 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: goal ranger in the red zone. I believe that Mike 176 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: Williams made one of the all time catches in overtime, 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: and they did not challenge it because it looked like 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: such an improbable catch, and more importantly, because Joe Buck 179 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman did not recognize that there was a 180 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: legitimate chance he caught that pass. It's weird how the 181 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: announcers have influence. But Tony Romo talks about this whenever 182 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Jim Nance says, I'm not so sure that was out 183 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: of bounds. The coaches always challenge the coaches are watching 184 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: the broadcast, people upstairs who can just watching the broadcast, 185 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: and if the announcers really flag it, then they flag it, 186 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: and otherwise I don't think they're bold enough. And Troy 187 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: in that moment didn't say anything, and we didn't get 188 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: a ton of replays. But I went back and watched it, 189 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: and I think it might have been one of the 190 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: great catches we've ever seen, and it might have been overturned. 191 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if there was the right view of it. 192 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: We could have had a beautiful play. We kind of 193 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: improved that Herbert Yards per attempt. Yeah, we could have. 194 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: But luckily the Chargers come out with the wind anyway, 195 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: and now they're tied with the Chiefs. Oh my god, 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: it's what It's what I wanted because I just felt 197 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: like this Broncos team deserves to be two and four. 198 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't think the Chargers deserved to be four and two, 199 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: but it was the better result I think it was 200 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: the more fair result. All right, let's get into Russell Wilson, 201 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, before we go, and we're still aways from 202 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: going by the way. Sorry. Russell Wilson in the first 203 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: half of this game completed his first ten passes. And 204 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: it was really interesting because I do this Monday night 205 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: football coverage in the UK. If you guys actually have 206 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: stayed up to four thirty in the morning in the 207 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: UK or five o'clock in overtime and watch this, send 208 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: me a tweet because you are true fans and you're 209 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: listening to this like you're a glutton for punishment. They 210 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: started the game and I'm sitting next to Marias Jones 211 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: drew and he said, even as he was going ten 212 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: for ten, they don't trust him. They're managing Russell Wilson 213 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: in the way that they're calling the game, kind of 214 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: like you would manage Bailey's appy, you know, like yes, 215 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: the number they were coaching him up. Well, like let's 216 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: give him credit. He also made a nice throw. He 217 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: had two nice plays on the run. One was to 218 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: Eric Tomlinson. Another was where he did the Russell Wilson 219 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: thing and he just kind of spun around and then 220 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: there was a receiver wide open. But the plays instructure, 221 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: for the most part, were very protective sort of plays. 222 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: They were mostly trying to run the ball and it 223 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: was working. But even though the numbers were good, Yeah, 224 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: someone who's watched a lot of NFL football, he played 225 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: in it is saying like he wasn't really doing the 226 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: regular Russell Wilson things and going through his progressions. And 227 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: then after halftime he ended up going three for eleven 228 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: for fifteen yards. He took four sacks and they had 229 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: negative thirteen yards of offense passing after halftime. That is insane. Well, 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: he had that one third down play that he took 231 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: a sack on where he had the running back wide 232 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: open right over the middle of the field or somebody, 233 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: and that was like that was to start the game. 234 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: So that's where it can be misleading. Where ten for ten, yes, 235 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: but literally before that play call they send Jerry Judy, 236 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: I believe it was in motion, which gives him a 237 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: very clear indication zoner man. And he knows who to 238 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: go to if its own. He knows who to go 239 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: to if its man, and on that play, it's just 240 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, if it's own, a simple dump off the 241 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: dulcitch who you know, uncovers immediately literally no one on him. 242 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: And Troy Aigman said his eyes aren't disciplined, like he's 243 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: looking for the bigger play. But it just seems strange 244 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: to me. But it also supports what critics of Wilson 245 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: and I've said this too, and and I'm leaning on 246 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: people that know the game even better, have said in 247 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: his time, and you can see it. It's in the numbers. 248 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Never in his time in Seattle did he uh excel 249 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: at the short passing game or throwing over the middle 250 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Right, those are just two things that he's 251 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: never been good at and he needs it now, like 252 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: he just needs it in those spots and he doesn't 253 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: have it. So even when it's going well, you know, 254 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: they put up what ten points uh in the first half, 255 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: including a late field goal drive which was good uh 256 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: in only fifty three seconds, and then you go negative 257 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: thirteen yards passing in the second half in overtime. And 258 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: it's not like he didn't get chances. Uh. He had 259 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: seven possessions, uh, four three and outs, one ball where 260 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: they got a field goal where they got the ball 261 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: in field goal range and they didn't get a single 262 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: yard after that. It was as ugly as it gets. 263 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: And you have former NFL quarterbacks like Dan Orlovsky pointing 264 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: out on Twitter the lack of fixes that the Broncos 265 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: offense make in terms of protection is high school stuff. 266 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: And the Chargers saw it and they started just sending heat. 267 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Once they sent that first blitz that Drew Tranquil got through, 268 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: they blitzed every passing down situation the rest of the game. 269 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Tranquil got a couple of sacks, James got a sack, 270 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Cleo Mac had a sack, and a few hits that 271 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: that didn't come on a blitz. But they had no 272 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: answer for like where to slide the protection, even when 273 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: two NFL quarterbacks, they're saying, this is high school offense stuff. Well, 274 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: the double a gap blitz that essentially won the game 275 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: at the end, there was just like you have Mike 276 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Boone picking up one of the blitzers, but there's too 277 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: many guys in Russell Wilson, It's like he doesn't even 278 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: see he doesn't pre snap read the blitz and know 279 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: that he has to get the ball out quickly. He's 280 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: just like predetermined that he's going to hold the ball 281 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: and he continues to hold the ball. He did do 282 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: a really nice job like stepping up in the pocket 283 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: and finding Dulcitch for that one touchdown play, but that 284 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: was like the only play he really maneuvered the pocket. Well, 285 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: even the Judy one, he should have been sacked by 286 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Mac and he got lucky that he got to that one. 287 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's still athletic enough to you know, 288 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: run around a little bit and find someone wide open 289 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: after four or five seconds. But these guys that he's 290 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: playing with aren't as good as Tyler Lockett and DK 291 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: metcalf at doing those scramble drills with him. And so yes, 292 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: that one time he you know, he made it, but 293 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: he held onto the ball five or six seconds at play, 294 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: and ultimately that's not gonna work for him. He's not 295 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: lamar uh and he's not Russell Wilson from seven or 296 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: eight years ago. So you'll hit a couple of plays 297 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: here or there, but then you can get into long 298 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: stretches where there's no structured offense. And I do put 299 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it on the coaching staff too. Yes, 300 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: you would love Russell Wilson to be like Tom Brady 301 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers uh and and be able to set 302 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: all these protections. Blah blah blah. Yes, he would love 303 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: him to be able to coach up his young receivers. 304 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that made Tom Brady specials, even 305 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: as like a fifth year quarterback, He's got afterthoughts at 306 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver sometimes and he wouldn't make them into good players. 307 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: And Russell Wilson's not doing that. That's said. Bailey'sz appy 308 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: is coming into this game over the weekend for the Patriots, 309 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: for instance, and there blitz in him like crazy the 310 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks the Lions and the Browns, and 311 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I know those aren't good defenses, but all of those 312 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: blitzes are getting picked up. And it has nothing to 313 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: do with Bailey z Appy. It's the offensive line and 314 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: it's the coaching more than anything. And so the coaching 315 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: is absolutely failing and Russell Wilson is absolutely failing and shrinking, 316 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: and it's happening together, and it's happening with everyone watching 317 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: in a way that I personally can't quite remember for 318 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: a you know, likely future Hall of Fame quarterback that's 319 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: still young, you know, and it's in is coming off 320 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: where he was productive like, I can't think of this 321 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: big of a decline, certainly not in like a new 322 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: location as a as a guy who got all these 323 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: picks traded for We're into like kind of different territory 324 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: at least for the last twenty years in terms of 325 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: what's happening, and it's depressing justin thankfully, other than that 326 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: London game, they're not they're not going to be in 327 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: primetime to write. Um. I mean, the Broncos hired a 328 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: bunch of guys into positions that they hadn't held in 329 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the past, like promoted people into new positions, and it's 330 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: like they don't really have hardly anyone experienced at the 331 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: role that they're doing on their staff. And that's one 332 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: of the reasons. What did you think about the decision 333 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: not decision, but just the entire management the last regulation 334 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: drive for the Chargers where they end up just running 335 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: the clock down to one second and throwing a hail 336 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: Mary that comes up ten yards short of the end 337 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: zone justin Herbert takes a huge hit against a three 338 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: man rush. What were your thoughts on that whole sequence. 339 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: I I wanna defend Brandon Staley instinctively because he thinks differently. 340 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: He's aggressive. I like that he's trying to do different things. 341 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: And yet the end these end of games sequences are 342 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, very broncos like and there in the second year, 343 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: and last week was messiest hell against the Browns too, 344 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: And not just that they went for but the way 345 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: that they set up these plays, like you don't want 346 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: to get caught in the third down situation that they 347 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: were were there, they they have a quick pass to 348 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: Ekeler uh for no gain. Uh. In that situation they 349 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: do pick up a first down, they get to third 350 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: and one, and then they throw a no gain pass 351 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: to their fullback at that point. I don't think it 352 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: was crazy actually to do what they did and run 353 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: it down because at that point they were in trouble. 354 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: They could have been hyper aggressive and hurried up and 355 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: gone for it on fourth and one and and I 356 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: I understand why you would want to do that. I 357 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: want to be aggressive, but these are the same people 358 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: are who are killing for it last week and this situation, 359 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: I think asked for more caution because of the way 360 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: their defense was playing, and I think they were really 361 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: confident that they weren't going to give up any points 362 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: to the Broncos, so they would take over time at 363 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: that point. The problem was they just didn't get first down. 364 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: How are you running a third and one pass play 365 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: on a pass that's short of the sticks, like they 366 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: just they have all these short yardage plays and people 367 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: kill them for going for it on fourth down. They're 368 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: bad at it, like they're bad at third and fourth downs. 369 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: In short yardage passing the ball. They actually were good 370 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: at it today, like third and four, third and three, 371 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: third and five. They were hitting those third downs. But 372 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: when they get in these fourth down situations, justin they 373 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: tend to go with these quick passes, these out routes, 374 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: and they get deflected half the time. They got deflected 375 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: twice tonight. The only reason they picked up the first 376 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: fourth down they went for was it it deflected off 377 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: of the right. I do think they had some success. 378 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm crazy, like running the ball the third and 379 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: fourth and short or third and charge. We weren't mad 380 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: in short yards tonight. That was one of the things 381 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: they did. They had a fifteen play drive in the 382 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: first half. Uh, they had a fourteen play drive right 383 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: after that. So in the second quarter they had two 384 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: drives that took up three over fourteen minutes total between 385 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: the late first quarter and second quarter, which is crazy, 386 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: but that's the offense that they are. Every week there 387 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: is stationed to station, boring six yard pass at a time. Offense. 388 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: They average three point six yards per play, the average 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: a yard per play less than the Denver Broncos tonight. 390 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: And I just got to think there's a better way 391 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: here with Justin Herbert as your quarterback. I really think 392 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: it's a case where he makes He's a deodorant that 393 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: makes everything look better and so that they're coaching is 394 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: not great either on offense, uh, but he saves it 395 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: for the most part, and so that they don't take 396 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: a lot of heat. I'm going through now and counting 397 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: and I'm at five third and short runs that were 398 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: successfully converted by either on third down. Overall, it's a lot, man, 399 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: that was frustrating. What a game the Broncos. Here's what 400 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: the Broncos are extra frustrated because they really have something 401 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: on defense. I would put them in the top three 402 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: defenses in the league right now. They're paying. They just 403 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: brought Justin Simmons back. Certans insane. Baron Browning is insane, Like, 404 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: you know what when you see it. He looks like 405 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: a young Robert Quinn. He is so explosive, outrageous, and 406 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: I know, like his combine numbers were crazy and he 407 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: was playing inside linebacker, like they really found something. Randy 408 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: Gregory didn't even play in this game. Um, but they're 409 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: getting a ton of pass rush each and every week. 410 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: They have a great secondary. I think their their defensive 411 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: coordination a Viro who's who's new. He's doing a great job. 412 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: And I think that makes it even more frustrating for them, 413 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be getting even more and more annoyed 414 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: that they are bawling out each and every week and 415 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: the offense just can't do anything. Alemit Yeah, it's it's 416 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, it's just like putting everyone in a 417 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: bad mood. I'm not trying to like be too down, 418 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: but what else are we gonna say? It's tough. Yeah, 419 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: here's here's the thing that the charges are foreign too. 420 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: They don't the quality of these wins the last couple 421 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: of weeks where it's been if he it doesn't matter. 422 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: They're not like the Broncos. They have justin Herbert, they 423 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: have Khalil Mack. J. C. Jackson has been a problem 424 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: for them. But they have Derwin James. They will get 425 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: back Joey Bosa. They have Austin Ekeler, They're getting back 426 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. They've had levels this season, moments this season 427 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: where they looked quite good. Uh, this has actually been 428 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: very unchargery. They are usually so much better than their record. 429 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Right now they've played much worse than the record. But 430 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters. They just need to 431 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: keep moving forward and find a way to improve because 432 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: I think they can. Their left tackle Jamari Sailor. Actually 433 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: Sailor has played well enough and that he hasn't killed them. 434 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: They were really they really miss Corey Lindsley when he's out. 435 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: Do you have anything else to say on this game? 436 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: I've said way too much. I just think neither of 437 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: these teams deserved to win. And as much as I 438 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: wanted to like get out of here on a Monday 439 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: night late, I was rooting for a tie at the 440 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: end of it, because that's what I felt like. They 441 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: just both deserved to win. So like, just just see 442 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: your Taylor made that play. I was like, we I 443 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: was up in my seat, get me out of here. Yeah, 444 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: I was. I was saying two people around us because 445 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: we both had this conversation a second ago. But um, 446 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: was that a penalty? Can you push somebody into the returner? 447 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't care if it's a penalty 448 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: and the game so it's not I thought the same 449 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: thing at first, and and uh quickly it was told like, no, 450 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: of course you can. You can block whoever you want 451 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: to block. It's it's great if you block him into 452 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: the player. They coach him on that. So that was 453 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: a beautiful play and and it saved them, and then 454 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the charters defense. For the most part, it was was 455 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: good tonight. I mean, but everyone's good. J C. Jackson 456 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: did he get benched at the end of this game? 457 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: Did he? I don't know, but he's part of my 458 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: next list. So every weekend Monday Night Football, I have 459 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: a little top six list, uh to end the show. 460 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: And even going into the show, I thought this was 461 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: risky because what if Russell Wilson has a good night. 462 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: But I just thought, uh, six most disappointing offseason acquisitions 463 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: this year. I hate to be negative, but with j C. 464 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: Jackson in this game, who's was the highest paid free agent? Uh? 465 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: In terms of guaranteed money in this entire off season 466 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: was J. C. Jackson biggest contract and Russell Wilson in 467 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: this game, I just thought, Hey, I get into the 468 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: off season, so let's do top six uh or bottom 469 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: six offseason acquisitions this year. Uh. This this might feel mean, 470 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: but I threw in O. J. Howard at the end. 471 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: He didn't even make the bills. He he had the most. 472 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: He had the most guaranteed money of anyone that did 473 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: not make a team this year, three million dollars. Number 474 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: five Allen Robinson. I know he had a little bit 475 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: of a production on Sunday, uh, but it's not it like, 476 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: if you had to choose right now, if you're the Rams, 477 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: do you want to keep squar Nick for the rest 478 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: of the year or Allen Robinson for the rest of 479 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: the year. I actually think it's a pretty easy choice. 480 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: You would choose squar Nick. He's helping more and An 481 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: he has more production, more versatile. So it's just like 482 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: that's um, that's a pretty big letown. Number four is 483 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz just because of what they gave up for him. 484 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing particularly better or worse than 485 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: he's played the last couple of years. So that's more 486 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: on the Washington Commanders for giving up so much for him. Uh, 487 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: when Matt Ryan went for a third round pick and 488 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: it just that didn't make any sense. And now Wentz's 489 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: going to be out for the five weeks. We'll talk 490 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: about that on Tuesday show. Number three is J. C. Jackson. 491 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Supposedly he was lighting it up in training camp, but 492 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: that's what they said about Allen Robinson too. Then he 493 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: had an injury. He maybe came back too quickly uh 494 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: from it. But he's also going to a different system. 495 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: And I tell you there's something about defensive players, especially 496 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: when they leave Belichick that I don't know. He was 497 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: an undrafted player who got better and better and better, 498 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: and he's not as good in his own and man, 499 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: and he got confused a couple of times tonight. Uh. 500 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: He's number three. Number two is Baker Mayfield. We've we've 501 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: talked too much about Baker Mayfield. I think we'll see 502 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: him again this season, but uh, I would say he's 503 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: he would be my pick as the worst starter Week 504 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: one starter uh in the NFL this year, but I 505 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: think Russell Wilson would be right there. Like if you're 506 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: ranking all thirty two starters this year, just in terms 507 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: of how they've played this season. Who is Where is 508 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Like in marks QB Index, we can ask him. 509 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: I I can't imagine putting him anywhere higher than twenty 510 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: nine or thirty like Davis Mills is in that mix. 511 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: But I think Wilson's hurt them more and he's obviously 512 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: number one on this list. Uh, something's got to change. 513 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: The Broncos beat writers are out for blood with Hackett 514 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: because Wilson has all this guaranteed money. He's not going anywhere, 515 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: so something's got to change. This is a level of struggle, 516 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: bus I. I just can't believe it, even as someone 517 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: who's kind of been a bit of a Russell hater. 518 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: I'm this is too much like I'm not enjoying it. 519 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: This is too far gone now. It feels mean to 520 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: pile on. I did a quick Twitter search while you 521 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: were um talking there in Michael Davis replaced J. C. 522 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Jackson at quarter cornerback midway through this game. It makes sense. 523 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Michael Davis has started a lot of games for the 524 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: Chargers well over the last few years. Something's up. J. C. 525 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: Acton is a really interesting player. I could talk about 526 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: him a lot, but he had his ups and downs. 527 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: He's had his ups and downs in life. He had 528 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: his ups and downs as a Patriots. An incredible confidence player. 529 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: When he gets going, he gets going. But they always 530 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: say at cornerback, like what a great gift it is 531 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: to forget about the last play. He is extremely streaky. 532 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: He can be the best cornerback in the league, or 533 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: he can struggle hard for a couple of games. He 534 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: had taken out that sort of streakiness in the last 535 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: year or two, um, but he's certainly in a rough 536 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: streak now and maybe feeling the pressure. Hopefully he gets better. 537 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully the Chargers get better, and hopefully they flex out 538 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the Broncos from that Week fourteen primetime game. Hopefully Monday 539 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Night Football gets better. But I think, who do we have? Bears? 540 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Monday Night football has been great all season. This was 541 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: the first UH dud on Monday Night. It's been pretty 542 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: good for the most part. But yeah, we get better, 543 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Pats Patriots. We'll get a special guest for that. I'm 544 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited. You did great. I'm sorry if I carried 545 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: it too much. You know, I just think listeners should 546 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: know that. Like every time I asked you a question, 547 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: you put your head into your hand and like leaned 548 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: on the desk. Why what does that even mean? Just 549 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: like I can't believe I have to talk him. No, 550 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: it's more just like sports. It's more, I'm just frusted 551 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: by this game. Sports are supposed to be fun, and 552 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: that that's what I That's what kills me. If you're 553 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: a Broncos fan. Sports are supposed to be fun. And yes, 554 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: it's it's terrible they're two and four, But man, is 555 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: this Russell Wilson experience not fun? Yeah? You know, I 556 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: mean I guess that would be the case no matter 557 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: what if they were two and four, But the way 558 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: they've gotten to two and four with one of the 559 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: worst passing games in the entire league. Oh, man, is 560 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: this not fun? Trevor Simeon was more fun than this. 561 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean he would get out of his hand quicker 562 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: at least probably right. More fun. Yeah, I think Joe 563 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Flacco was more fun. This is a good lesson is 564 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater was more fun? They all were more fun 565 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: than It's a good lesson in never having high expectations, 566 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: because the only thing that can come from that is disappointment. Okay, 567 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: that's our summary uh of NFL season. No, there were 568 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: a lot of great games this weekend, just they weren't 569 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: the primetime games. Hopefully they get better this week. We're 570 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna get better on the Tuesday show because we'll have 571 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf in the chair along with Dan Mark and I. 572 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Until then, I'm Greg Rosenthal for Justin Graver. It's been 573 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: a thin slice of heppy. No, wait, that's damaged xpit. 574 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll see you on Tuesday. Heed the call.