Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is West Hodcoits were coming
Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambau Field and West.
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention on yesterday's show. Now that we
Speaker 1: are in regular season mode, we are five days a
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Speaker 1: a week with training camp, but now in regular season
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Speaker 1: new episode will be posted on the website and available
Speaker 1: for a podcast. So we spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: on yesterday's show breaking down the roster and how the
Speaker 1: Packers got down to fifty three players. But as we know,
Speaker 1: that roster is an ever evolving entity with regards to
Speaker 1: the Packers, and two new editions already coming through the door,
Speaker 1: one being linebacker Corey Tumor, the other running back Darius Jackson,
Speaker 1: players picked up from elsewhere. We'll start with Tumor because
Speaker 1: he actually practiced with the Packers for the first time
Speaker 1: on Monday. A veteran inside linebacker, this is his eighth
Speaker 1: team now since being drafted by the Seahawks back in
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. Took him a while to come into
Speaker 1: his own a little bit in the NFL, but over
Speaker 1: the last two years two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen
Speaker 1: with the Chargers both in San Diego and Los Angeles
Speaker 1: as a part time starter, put up some pretty good numbers.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who, you know, the Packers are
Speaker 1: very young, obviously an inside linebacker might be able to
Speaker 1: help out here. Yeah, he'll turn thirty this season, you know,
Speaker 1: I think in December. So very interesting that they would
Speaker 1: go out and find a guy like this. He offers
Speaker 1: them some flexibility there at the inside linebacker position. Also
Speaker 1: some potential contributions on special teams, which is always what
Speaker 1: you look for from those backup interior or inside linebackers.
Speaker 1: The part I love, I want to say love the most,
Speaker 1: but I think is the most poetic of this whole
Speaker 1: situation with Tumor. It really illustrates the agony and ecstasy
Speaker 1: of cutdown day because the corresponding roster move Tumor getting
Speaker 1: signed was Jake Kumero, who finally makes a fifty three
Speaker 1: man roster. Well, he goes on injured reserve now that
Speaker 1: keeps him eligible to potentially be activated to the roster
Speaker 1: later this season as a designated return player. But you know,
Speaker 1: for everything he did, I'm sure he really wanted to
Speaker 1: be there week one, playing with these guys and being
Speaker 1: able to live that NFL dream after trying for so
Speaker 1: long to make it in the NFL three training camps
Speaker 1: before this year. And then conversely, you have Tumor, who
Speaker 1: came into the league in two thousand twelve, spent a
Speaker 1: number of seasons on the Seattle Seahawks practice squad on
Speaker 1: their injured reserve. Their story sort of parallel each other
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, he had to go to Dallas,
Speaker 1: he had to play with the Rams. It wasn't until
Speaker 1: really he finally settled in with the Chargers. This guy
Speaker 1: really got a chance to show what he could do
Speaker 1: on the football field. This offseason. As you mentioned, he
Speaker 1: signs with the forty Niners, doesn't work out there, so
Speaker 1: now he's in day So as he said, this isn't easy.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to be able to pick up
Speaker 1: stuff quickly. Now it's week one of the regular season.
Speaker 1: But being honest, this is also something Tumor has really
Speaker 1: been dealing with his entire career, having to catch up
Speaker 1: on the fly. Yeah, and he was hoping obviously to
Speaker 1: land a spot with the San Francisco forty Niners, but
Speaker 1: he admitted he was signed there basically as an insurance
Speaker 1: policy for Reuben Foster because the forty Niners did not
Speaker 1: know what was going to be happening with all the
Speaker 1: off field legal troubles and everything that was going on
Speaker 1: with Foster, so he signed there. But then the forty
Speaker 1: Niners also drafted somebody after that, I believe in the
Speaker 1: third round, a linebacker out of b y U as
Speaker 1: another potential insurance policy with regards to Foster. So as
Speaker 1: that all developed, and then Foster got into camp and
Speaker 1: in the preseason he sort of saw the writing on
Speaker 1: the wall and wasn't necessarily shocked when he got released.
Speaker 1: But within a couple of hours, he said, he got
Speaker 1: a phone call from the Packers. The Packers had contacted
Speaker 1: his agent. They worked something out fairly quickly. In uh
Speaker 1: and here he is. You look at those numbers. His
Speaker 1: last two seasons with the Chargers started a total of
Speaker 1: sixteen games, eight games each season, over a hundred total tackles,
Speaker 1: five forced fumbles in that time, a couple of sacks,
Speaker 1: five passes defense, including one interception that he returned for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He feels like in limited playing time, he
Speaker 1: put up some pretty good numbers and maybe he's just
Speaker 1: scratching the surfaces to what he might be able to do,
Speaker 1: even though, as you mentioned, he's approaching that magic age
Speaker 1: of thirty. Yeah, and it's a little bit different, you know,
Speaker 1: for inside linebackers. I think that isn't always necessarily the
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the fear factor that that
Speaker 1: it is at some other positions. You see a lot
Speaker 1: of guys, particularly his play style, be able to succeed
Speaker 1: in this league going into their thirties. But what's interesting
Speaker 1: about his story is if you go back and look
Speaker 1: at it, I mean, that's a guy that was a
Speaker 1: junior college player originally, he ends up transferring to Idaho,
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a whole lot of buzz, but then
Speaker 1: puts up a pretty darn good pro day. And you
Speaker 1: go back to two thousand and twelve when he came out,
Speaker 1: I think ran like a four or five three. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you it is six years later, now I understand that,
Speaker 1: but uh, there was there there was traits that I
Speaker 1: think John Snyder saw with him that that the Seahawks
Speaker 1: developed him for three years and ultimately ends up moving on.
Speaker 1: But uh, he's just always kind of scratched and clawed
Speaker 1: his way into this league. And I think even during
Speaker 1: his time with the Chargers, you know, he started i
Speaker 1: want to say half of those games and two seasons
Speaker 1: with them, it was mostly just out of you know,
Speaker 1: when he had to be in there, he went in
Speaker 1: there and made the most of it. I think if
Speaker 1: nothing else, he gives the Packers a veteran that can
Speaker 1: come in here and work with some of these young guys.
Speaker 1: Because although Antonio Morrison has played a lot in this league,
Speaker 1: he's only twenty three years old. He was in the
Speaker 1: same draft class as Blake Martinez. You have Warren Burke's
Speaker 1: coming back as a third round rookie draft pick. So
Speaker 1: I think having a little bit more of a veteran
Speaker 1: leader in that room can go a long way, because
Speaker 1: you go back and look at what did for a
Speaker 1: J Hawk and and these other guys back during the
Speaker 1: really prime years of that defense. It goes a long way.
Speaker 1: And being able to have some other veterans that you
Speaker 1: can work off and we'll see what opportunities present themselves
Speaker 1: for tumor you might special teams and at inside linebacker
Speaker 1: right now for the Packers, or and Burke's still working
Speaker 1: through a shoulder injury, was not back at practice on Monday,
Speaker 1: and James Crawford, the undrafted rookie who made the roster,
Speaker 1: he was also in the rehab group at practice. Injury
Speaker 1: is undisclosed at this time. There won't be an official
Speaker 1: injury report until Wednesday. So the Packers a little bit
Speaker 1: thin at inside linebacker for the moment here in week one,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. But another position where the
Speaker 1: Packers ended Saturday at cut down time very thin, and
Speaker 1: that was that running back. They only kept Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: and Time Montgomery. Aaron Jones went on the suspended list.
Speaker 1: He'll be back in week three. So the Packers end
Speaker 1: up signing Darius Jackson off of the Dallas Cowboys practice squad.
Speaker 1: He was cut, he cleared waivers, then was signed to
Speaker 1: the practice squad and then the Packers kind of swooped
Speaker 1: in and and signed him anyway, And so a number
Speaker 1: three running back at least for the time being. What
Speaker 1: do you know about Jackson? It's interesting because I went
Speaker 1: back and really read up on him and his time
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys. He was a former six round draft
Speaker 1: pick of Dallas. He had two different stints with them,
Speaker 1: also spent some time I leave with the Cleveland Browns. Uh.
Speaker 1: The one thing that always stands out to me about
Speaker 1: those type of players that are probably later round draft
Speaker 1: picks but end up coming back Cowboys. For as much
Speaker 1: as you want to talk about, you know, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and that they have done, I I believe a pretty
Speaker 1: darn good job of developing, you know, some inside talent,
Speaker 1: you know, in the last five six years, especially with
Speaker 1: really just sort of looking internally to develop guys rather
Speaker 1: than you know, free agency. And I thought Jackson was
Speaker 1: one of those guys. And the fact that they brought
Speaker 1: him back I think kind of speaks to what they
Speaker 1: felt his level of talent was. And in reading some
Speaker 1: of the clippings and in that sort of stuff, this
Speaker 1: past offseason sounds like you put together a pretty darn
Speaker 1: good camp. Wasn't good enough for him to make the
Speaker 1: roster at a very highly competitive position there for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but was signed back to the practice squad. Now he
Speaker 1: comes to Green Bay. I think it's a good opportunity
Speaker 1: for him. The Packers you know it's gonna be this
Speaker 1: game specifically, I think you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams in time on Smory. We'll see whether or
Speaker 1: not Jackson is going to be active in it. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, getting hopefully in these netcoming days, getting a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to him a little bit about his
Speaker 1: experience and where he's come from will be interesting. But um,
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan kid that I think has really uh, you know,
Speaker 1: made his way in this league the first couple of years,
Speaker 1: you know, despite some kind of humble college beginnings. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked about all of the different maschinations of cut
Speaker 1: down Day here regarding these players who are now in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, players who are no longer in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: You discovered kind of a fun story with regards to
Speaker 1: cut down Day here in Green Bay with the Packers,
Speaker 1: a group of I guess you'd call him the undrafted rookies,
Speaker 1: kind of getting together, spending the day together and hoping
Speaker 1: the phone doesn't ring kind of thing. Just you've you've
Speaker 1: posted the story on our website. Tell us what you
Speaker 1: found out. Yeah, so, Tim Boyle obviously a fan favorite
Speaker 1: here throughout the preseason and in him Alex Light, undrafted
Speaker 1: rookie out of Richmond offensive lineman, and I believe also
Speaker 1: Austin Davis and a couple other guys were involved in
Speaker 1: this group of players that were really, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to get through the day with all the anxiety
Speaker 1: and everything that's going on. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: interesting when I was talking to Boil, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: by the time he'd even woken up, he was already
Speaker 1: getting text messages from teammates, uh, you know league wide
Speaker 1: that had already not you know, gotten the bad news
Speaker 1: sommer teammates like high school and college every everything, packers,
Speaker 1: what have you. And I thought it was interesting, he mentioned,
Speaker 1: like at that point it becomes real, like the call
Speaker 1: could come at any minute. So him Light a collectually
Speaker 1: these guys went out for breakfast. A bunch of them
Speaker 1: came into Lambeau actually and worked out, just trying to
Speaker 1: do everything they can to get their mind off things,
Speaker 1: and Light kind of recounted a story about how there's
Speaker 1: about five of them total, and then as the morning
Speaker 1: went on, the phone call started coming in, and by
Speaker 1: the time they got to lunchtime, it was just Boil
Speaker 1: and Light. So they went down the street here to
Speaker 1: Texas Roadhouse. Uh sat down, as as Boyle said, just
Speaker 1: got a good steak and just tried to wait it out,
Speaker 1: and three o'clock came. Oil said. Two minutes after three,
Speaker 1: he finally got a call from his agency confirming he'd
Speaker 1: made the team. What an incredible journey it's been for him.
Speaker 1: I we we do a feature usually on an undrafted
Speaker 1: rookie win after they signed in the spring, and Boyle
Speaker 1: was the guy I talked to this year. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you know anything about where he comes from, UH
Speaker 1: was a three time state champion, I believe in high school.
Speaker 1: But he stays in state at Yukon. He has three
Speaker 1: different offensive coordinators in three years. It doesn't work out there.
Speaker 1: He transfers to Eastern Kentucky. And I think he came
Speaker 1: to the NFL and came to Green Bay with a
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder to show that you know what,
Speaker 1: I belong in this league. I can play in this league.
Speaker 1: And now he has the opportunity to stay on the
Speaker 1: Packers fifty three and then just quickly on light. This
Speaker 1: is a guy that was had two scholarship offers coming
Speaker 1: out of high school. I believe it was Richmond and
Speaker 1: VM I if I remember correctly, uh, And he was
Speaker 1: told he was too small, he wasn't gonna be able
Speaker 1: to play at a major college. And then lo and behold,
Speaker 1: not only does he end up making the roster as
Speaker 1: the ninth offensive lineman and an undrafted rookie, he played
Speaker 1: left tackle for most of the preseason. You've covered this
Speaker 1: league for a long time, like you know it. When
Speaker 1: guys come in from those fcs, you know, sort of
Speaker 1: left tackles or lower tier FBS schools, a lot of
Speaker 1: times they end up moving them to into your alignment.
Speaker 1: James correct James Campon took a look at light and
Speaker 1: he said, no, I want you to play tackle, and
Speaker 1: then here he is now. As he said, it kind
Speaker 1: of caught him off guard at first, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it ended up being his ticket
Speaker 1: to the roster. A lot of silence, a lot of anxiety,
Speaker 1: but totally worth it for both of those guys to
Speaker 1: end up being one of four undrafted rookies to make
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah. I can't imagine personally, just the nerves
Speaker 1: and the anxiety of something like that for cutdown day,
Speaker 1: for these young guys who you know, you know, you're
Speaker 1: on the bubble. But that's all they know. What are
Speaker 1: their chances of making it not making it? There's almost
Speaker 1: no way to gauge it because there are so many
Speaker 1: different factors that go into these decisions that the team's making.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I've heard stories over the years from
Speaker 1: lots of different players, and this can go a number
Speaker 1: of different ways. This one, this particular year, it sounded
Speaker 1: like these players their phone just never rang. They and
Speaker 1: then the three o'clock deadline passes and they haven't gotten
Speaker 1: a phone call. And you sit there and go, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I've made the team because nobody called me.
Speaker 1: Other times you hear from players where maybe their position
Speaker 1: coach sent them a quick text or a call, uh
Speaker 1: to end the anxiety and just say, hey, you know
Speaker 1: you've made it. You know we're good and everything so,
Speaker 1: and there's never necessarily a rhyme or reason to how
Speaker 1: these how these things work out. But these cut down
Speaker 1: days can go in in so many different ways for
Speaker 1: these guys, and I don't know, I just I can't
Speaker 1: imagine trying to you know, I mean, waking up whatever
Speaker 1: it is, eight nine o'clock in the morning, and they
Speaker 1: get up and then they've got the six seven hours
Speaker 1: of of agony, almost waiting to find out what their
Speaker 1: future is. It's it's got to be. It's just it's
Speaker 1: got to be rough. I give these guys a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. Those I mean, even those who don't make it,
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll never hear from them again, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, they gave it everything they had and uh,
Speaker 1: and now it's time to move on. Yeah, it's tough
Speaker 1: because it isn't just that three o'clock headline. You know,
Speaker 1: Boil and Light both talked about it to you. It's
Speaker 1: the entire weekend. It's basically all the way up until Tuesday,
Speaker 1: when I think you're guaranteed a paycheck of just you know,
Speaker 1: not sure what's going to happen. Two thousand sixteen, Mike,
Speaker 1: you go or two fifteen excuse me, Miles White, first
Speaker 1: time in three camps, finally makes the roster and then
Speaker 1: James Jones comes flying in the next day and whites
Speaker 1: the corresponding roster move. It's just the nature of the beast.
Speaker 1: Nobody likes it, but the end of the day, the
Speaker 1: Packers are trying to put together their top fifty three players,
Speaker 1: and sometimes even if you make that initial cut doesn't
Speaker 1: always mean you're going to be there the next Sunday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Um. Well, before we get to one
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Speaker 1: one more topic I want to hit on before we
Speaker 1: go today, West, and that's something that it was a
Speaker 1: topic across the league throughout the preseason. We never really
Speaker 1: got around to discussing it on this show. Seems like
Speaker 1: now would be a decent time to do so. And
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is this whole new use of
Speaker 1: the helmet rule that we saw a number of questionable flags. Um,
Speaker 1: a number of players getting upset about calls being made
Speaker 1: that they don't know what they did wrong and this
Speaker 1: and that. Obviously in the preseason, the officials are looking
Speaker 1: forward even more closely. It's a new rule. They're trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to educate the players, trying to get
Speaker 1: them accustomed to it, trying to get accustomed to what
Speaker 1: they're looking for as officials and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But bottom line, West, it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a mess in the preseason. Is this going to straighten
Speaker 1: itself out in the regular season or how do you
Speaker 1: see this evolving from here? Because it just it seems
Speaker 1: like it's kind of just getting started. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: funny though, because I thought the first game the actors
Speaker 1: played that that they opened the training or the preseason
Speaker 1: with against the believe it was Tennessee. It was it
Speaker 1: was like this is bad man, because it was like
Speaker 1: every other play sometimes back to back places, there's just
Speaker 1: flag after flag after flag. I think a running back
Speaker 1: got called for lowering his helmet, basically running through the tackles.
Speaker 1: I don't know how else you're supposed to do that
Speaker 1: if you're running back. I mean, they talk about pad level,
Speaker 1: they don't talk about mall walking, you know, through the
Speaker 1: offensive line. But I will say this as the at
Speaker 1: least as it relates to Green Bay. I can't speak
Speaker 1: for the NFL. It seemed like every preseason game it
Speaker 1: got a little bit better. And you know, every year
Speaker 1: we hear about these emphasis emphases. You go back and
Speaker 1: that one year it was defensive holding, it was defensive
Speaker 1: past interference, and the flags are just flying, and then
Speaker 1: once you get to the regular season, they're a little
Speaker 1: bit more conservative with it. Uh the refs are practicing,
Speaker 1: they're they're working these things out to they're having the conversations.
Speaker 1: So my hope would be is that And I've always
Speaker 1: said this, Mike, you cannot rule this league objectively. You
Speaker 1: just can't. It's a subjective league by nature. The game
Speaker 1: itself is subjective. Where you want to put the football
Speaker 1: when you're lining up for third and one is subjective.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say until we start with
Speaker 1: this type like maybe the tennis ball technology that shows
Speaker 1: you where the ball actually wasps thing, But otherwise it's subjective.
Speaker 1: You can't rule it objectively. So I hope my only
Speaker 1: aspiration for this season there is a little bit of
Speaker 1: wiggle room allowed, specifically with the helmet rule, for just
Speaker 1: common sense to prevail. Yes, you do not want to
Speaker 1: have the hit from Danny Trevathan on Davante Adams or
Speaker 1: the Thomas Davis hit on Adams. You want to get
Speaker 1: that out of the game. But we also saw some
Speaker 1: really good competitive clean hits like the one on Marcedes
Speaker 1: Lewis or even more specifically, the one on Jamon Moore
Speaker 1: against uh Riah was Oakland. You want to be able
Speaker 1: to see those type of plays. You want to be
Speaker 1: able to see competitive high level football in trying to
Speaker 1: eliminate the egregious helmet helmet hits and and also have
Speaker 1: some understanding that sometimes contact is going to happen to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on the uh the spoford soapbox a minute,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, you gotta get the little graphic
Speaker 1: I've said. I've said this in Insider inbox. I've had
Speaker 1: conversations with you about it when it comes to these
Speaker 1: safety rules, and I'm all for instituting these rules and
Speaker 1: trying to make the game safer. The league has to
Speaker 1: do it for its own future. I think I think
Speaker 1: that's indisputable. My problem with it is I think they're
Speaker 1: asking the officials on the field to do too much.
Speaker 1: I think if you want to put these rules in
Speaker 1: about lowering the helmet and certain types of contact and
Speaker 1: all this, you have to let them go to replay
Speaker 1: to decide these fifteen yard penalties. And I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not advocating four hour games with you know, fift twenty
Speaker 1: stoppages for replays. I don't think that's necessarily good for
Speaker 1: the game either. But you can't have these games decided
Speaker 1: by a fifteen yard penalty in the fourth quarter on
Speaker 1: a hit that at full speed looks like it could
Speaker 1: be illegal according to the rule, and they throw the flag.
Speaker 1: But then when you as you take one look at
Speaker 1: it on replay and you're like, no, he hit him
Speaker 1: with the shoulder. He didn't hit him with the helmet.
Speaker 1: It's perfectly legal. Yet there's no redress for it. There's
Speaker 1: no way to fix it. I think they're asking the
Speaker 1: officials on the field to do too much, too, to
Speaker 1: administer all of what I'll call the regular rules where
Speaker 1: the ball is spotted for third and one, the past interference,
Speaker 1: the holding calls, everything else, and then all these safety
Speaker 1: rules on top of it. I just think it's too much.
Speaker 1: Wes and and if the league is not going to
Speaker 1: allow more of these safety rules to be subject to replay.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna end up seeing games decided by
Speaker 1: highly questionable calls and and the fans aren't gonna stand
Speaker 1: for it. The fans are gonna get really, really upset,
Speaker 1: and the players and the coaches are gonna get upset
Speaker 1: about it too. Yeah, And I thought they made a
Speaker 1: really good move. Probably maybe the best move the NFL
Speaker 1: has made in relation to rules was a few years
Speaker 1: ago when they when they really put an emphasis down
Speaker 1: on the targeting, you know, leaving your body launching, yourself launching.
Speaker 1: I always go back to that game against Washington, I
Speaker 1: think it was in two thousand twelve or thirteen where
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey ends up sustaining the concussion from a hit
Speaker 1: from Brandon Merryweather remember who it was two. Lacey's rookie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and those There's just no place for that in
Speaker 1: this day and age. And I wish they could have
Speaker 1: maybe just kind of rotated from that a little bit
Speaker 1: to to try to eliminate the Davante Adams hits from
Speaker 1: last year, as opposed to I think going on the
Speaker 1: other side of it and taking your regular down and
Speaker 1: you know, the type of places you see all the time.
Speaker 1: Because I go back to that, that running play was
Speaker 1: the biggest eye open to me. I think it was
Speaker 1: the Titans game. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Titans
Speaker 1: were driving at that point in time, and the running
Speaker 1: back puts his helmet down to go again in a
Speaker 1: you know, power type situation, and that's a fifteen yard
Speaker 1: penalty that's stalled the drive. They end up punting two
Speaker 1: plays later. Pat And now the thing I remember tweeting it,
Speaker 1: or I remember writing about an inbox the next day.
Speaker 1: If that's a If that's a Packers player and that
Speaker 1: happens in the regular seasons, lambeau Field would have been
Speaker 1: beside itself, no question. You know it was preseason. It's
Speaker 1: the opponent. Nobody really cared. That's what I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: keeping my eye on now that we get into the
Speaker 1: regular season. Right, and my point about asking the officials
Speaker 1: to do too much, I'll go to another rule that
Speaker 1: generated a lot of discussion and and some change in
Speaker 1: the rule book in the off season. The catch rule. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's this whole thing now about control and two feet
Speaker 1: down and a football move and all that they're trying
Speaker 1: to get that straightened out. Okay, be that back judge
Speaker 1: on the steam route down the middle, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: watch when he has control the ball, gets two feet down,
Speaker 1: makes a football move to complete the catch. But then
Speaker 1: you're also supposed to know if the defender is lowering
Speaker 1: his helmet and making an illegal contact that could be
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty on top. How is the human
Speaker 1: being at live speed with some of the greatest athletes
Speaker 1: on the planet supposed to keep track of all that
Speaker 1: and call it correctly without going to replay. I I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to the officials, and the
Speaker 1: fans get all mad at the officials, and they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: It's not the officials fault. It's the league's fault. I've
Speaker 1: always said this. I don't care if it's the NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Bayport in high school. I do.
Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with being a referee at
Speaker 1: any point in my lifetime. I couldn't do it all right, Well,
Speaker 1: with that, West has signed off. I've never officiated a
Speaker 1: football game, and we are going to sign off on
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