1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is West Hodcoits were coming 3 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambau Field and West. 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention on yesterday's show. Now that we 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: are in regular season mode, we are five days a 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: week here with Packers Unscripted. We're doing just two days 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: a week with training camp, but now in regular season 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: we are five days a week Monday through Friday. A 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: new episode will be posted on the website and available 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: for a podcast. So we spent a lot of time 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: on yesterday's show breaking down the roster and how the 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: Packers got down to fifty three players. But as we know, 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: that roster is an ever evolving entity with regards to 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the Packers, and two new editions already coming through the door, 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: one being linebacker Corey Tumor, the other running back Darius Jackson, 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: players picked up from elsewhere. We'll start with Tumor because 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: he actually practiced with the Packers for the first time 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: on Monday. A veteran inside linebacker, this is his eighth 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: team now since being drafted by the Seahawks back in 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. Took him a while to come into 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: his own a little bit in the NFL, but over 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: the last two years two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: with the Chargers both in San Diego and Los Angeles 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: as a part time starter, put up some pretty good numbers. 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: This is a guy who, you know, the Packers are 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: very young, obviously an inside linebacker might be able to 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: help out here. Yeah, he'll turn thirty this season, you know, 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: I think in December. So very interesting that they would 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: go out and find a guy like this. He offers 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: them some flexibility there at the inside linebacker position. Also 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: some potential contributions on special teams, which is always what 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: you look for from those backup interior or inside linebackers. 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: The part I love, I want to say love the most, 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: but I think is the most poetic of this whole 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: situation with Tumor. It really illustrates the agony and ecstasy 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: of cutdown day because the corresponding roster move Tumor getting 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: signed was Jake Kumero, who finally makes a fifty three 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: man roster. Well, he goes on injured reserve now that 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: keeps him eligible to potentially be activated to the roster 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: later this season as a designated return player. But you know, 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: for everything he did, I'm sure he really wanted to 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: be there week one, playing with these guys and being 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: able to live that NFL dream after trying for so 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: long to make it in the NFL three training camps 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: before this year. And then conversely, you have Tumor, who 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: came into the league in two thousand twelve, spent a 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: number of seasons on the Seattle Seahawks practice squad on 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: their injured reserve. Their story sort of parallel each other 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, he had to go to Dallas, 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: he had to play with the Rams. It wasn't until 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: really he finally settled in with the Chargers. This guy 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: really got a chance to show what he could do 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: on the football field. This offseason. As you mentioned, he 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: signs with the forty Niners, doesn't work out there, so 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: now he's in day So as he said, this isn't easy. 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: You know, you have to be able to pick up 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: stuff quickly. Now it's week one of the regular season. 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: But being honest, this is also something Tumor has really 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: been dealing with his entire career, having to catch up 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: on the fly. Yeah, and he was hoping obviously to 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: land a spot with the San Francisco forty Niners, but 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: he admitted he was signed there basically as an insurance 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: policy for Reuben Foster because the forty Niners did not 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: know what was going to be happening with all the 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: off field legal troubles and everything that was going on 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: with Foster, so he signed there. But then the forty 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Niners also drafted somebody after that, I believe in the 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: third round, a linebacker out of b y U as 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: another potential insurance policy with regards to Foster. So as 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: that all developed, and then Foster got into camp and 71 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: in the preseason he sort of saw the writing on 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: the wall and wasn't necessarily shocked when he got released. 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: But within a couple of hours, he said, he got 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: a phone call from the Packers. The Packers had contacted 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: his agent. They worked something out fairly quickly. In uh 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: and here he is. You look at those numbers. His 77 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: last two seasons with the Chargers started a total of 78 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: sixteen games, eight games each season, over a hundred total tackles, 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: five forced fumbles in that time, a couple of sacks, 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: five passes defense, including one interception that he returned for 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: a touchdown. He feels like in limited playing time, he 82 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: put up some pretty good numbers and maybe he's just 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: scratching the surfaces to what he might be able to do, 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: even though, as you mentioned, he's approaching that magic age 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: of thirty. Yeah, and it's a little bit different, you know, 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: for inside linebackers. I think that isn't always necessarily the 87 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to say the fear factor that that 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: it is at some other positions. You see a lot 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: of guys, particularly his play style, be able to succeed 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: in this league going into their thirties. But what's interesting 91 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: about his story is if you go back and look 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: at it, I mean, that's a guy that was a 93 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: junior college player originally, he ends up transferring to Idaho, 94 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: doesn't really have a whole lot of buzz, but then 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: puts up a pretty darn good pro day. And you 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: go back to two thousand and twelve when he came out, 97 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: I think ran like a four or five three. Um. Now, 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: mind you it is six years later, now I understand that, 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: but uh, there was there there was traits that I 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: think John Snyder saw with him that that the Seahawks 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: developed him for three years and ultimately ends up moving on. 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: But uh, he's just always kind of scratched and clawed 103 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: his way into this league. And I think even during 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: his time with the Chargers, you know, he started i 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: want to say half of those games and two seasons 106 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: with them, it was mostly just out of you know, 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: when he had to be in there, he went in 108 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: there and made the most of it. I think if 109 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: nothing else, he gives the Packers a veteran that can 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: come in here and work with some of these young guys. 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: Because although Antonio Morrison has played a lot in this league, 112 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: he's only twenty three years old. He was in the 113 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: same draft class as Blake Martinez. You have Warren Burke's 114 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: coming back as a third round rookie draft pick. So 115 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: I think having a little bit more of a veteran 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: leader in that room can go a long way, because 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: you go back and look at what did for a 118 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: J Hawk and and these other guys back during the 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: really prime years of that defense. It goes a long way. 120 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: And being able to have some other veterans that you 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: can work off and we'll see what opportunities present themselves 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: for tumor you might special teams and at inside linebacker 123 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: right now for the Packers, or and Burke's still working 124 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: through a shoulder injury, was not back at practice on Monday, 125 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: and James Crawford, the undrafted rookie who made the roster, 126 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: he was also in the rehab group at practice. Injury 127 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: is undisclosed at this time. There won't be an official 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: injury report until Wednesday. So the Packers a little bit 129 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: thin at inside linebacker for the moment here in week one, 130 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. But another position where the 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Packers ended Saturday at cut down time very thin, and 132 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: that was that running back. They only kept Jamal Williams 133 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: and Time Montgomery. Aaron Jones went on the suspended list. 134 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: He'll be back in week three. So the Packers end 135 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: up signing Darius Jackson off of the Dallas Cowboys practice squad. 136 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: He was cut, he cleared waivers, then was signed to 137 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: the practice squad and then the Packers kind of swooped 138 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: in and and signed him anyway, And so a number 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: three running back at least for the time being. What 140 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: do you know about Jackson? It's interesting because I went 141 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: back and really read up on him and his time 142 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys. He was a former six round draft 143 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: pick of Dallas. He had two different stints with them, 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: also spent some time I leave with the Cleveland Browns. Uh. 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: The one thing that always stands out to me about 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: those type of players that are probably later round draft 147 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: picks but end up coming back Cowboys. For as much 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: as you want to talk about, you know, Jerry Jones 149 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: and that they have done, I I believe a pretty 150 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: darn good job of developing, you know, some inside talent, 151 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the last five six years, especially with 152 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: really just sort of looking internally to develop guys rather 153 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: than you know, free agency. And I thought Jackson was 154 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: one of those guys. And the fact that they brought 155 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: him back I think kind of speaks to what they 156 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: felt his level of talent was. And in reading some 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: of the clippings and in that sort of stuff, this 158 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: past offseason sounds like you put together a pretty darn 159 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: good camp. Wasn't good enough for him to make the 160 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: roster at a very highly competitive position there for the Cowboys, 161 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: but was signed back to the practice squad. Now he 162 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: comes to Green Bay. I think it's a good opportunity 163 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: for him. The Packers you know it's gonna be this 164 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: game specifically, I think you're gonna see a lot of 165 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams in time on Smory. We'll see whether or 166 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: not Jackson is going to be active in it. But um, 167 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, getting hopefully in these netcoming days, getting a 168 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: chance to talk to him a little bit about his 169 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: experience and where he's come from will be interesting. But um, 170 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan kid that I think has really uh, you know, 171 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: made his way in this league the first couple of years, 172 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, despite some kind of humble college beginnings. Yeah. Well, 173 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: we talked about all of the different maschinations of cut 174 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: down Day here regarding these players who are now in 175 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay, players who are no longer in Green Bay. 176 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: You discovered kind of a fun story with regards to 177 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: cut down Day here in Green Bay with the Packers, 178 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: a group of I guess you'd call him the undrafted rookies, 179 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: kind of getting together, spending the day together and hoping 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: the phone doesn't ring kind of thing. Just you've you've 181 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: posted the story on our website. Tell us what you 182 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: found out. Yeah, so, Tim Boyle obviously a fan favorite 183 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: here throughout the preseason and in him Alex Light, undrafted 184 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: rookie out of Richmond offensive lineman, and I believe also 185 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Austin Davis and a couple other guys were involved in 186 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: this group of players that were really, you know, just 187 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: trying to get through the day with all the anxiety 188 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: and everything that's going on. I thought it was really 189 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: interesting when I was talking to Boil, you know, he said, 190 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: by the time he'd even woken up, he was already 191 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: getting text messages from teammates, uh, you know league wide 192 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: that had already not you know, gotten the bad news 193 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: sommer teammates like high school and college every everything, packers, 194 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: what have you. And I thought it was interesting, he mentioned, 195 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: like at that point it becomes real, like the call 196 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: could come at any minute. So him Light a collectually 197 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: these guys went out for breakfast. A bunch of them 198 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: came into Lambeau actually and worked out, just trying to 199 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: do everything they can to get their mind off things, 200 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: and Light kind of recounted a story about how there's 201 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: about five of them total, and then as the morning 202 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: went on, the phone call started coming in, and by 203 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: the time they got to lunchtime, it was just Boil 204 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: and Light. So they went down the street here to 205 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: Texas Roadhouse. Uh sat down, as as Boyle said, just 206 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: got a good steak and just tried to wait it out, 207 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: and three o'clock came. Oil said. Two minutes after three, 208 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: he finally got a call from his agency confirming he'd 209 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: made the team. What an incredible journey it's been for him. 210 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: I we we do a feature usually on an undrafted 211 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: rookie win after they signed in the spring, and Boyle 212 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: was the guy I talked to this year. And you know, 213 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: if you know anything about where he comes from, UH 214 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: was a three time state champion, I believe in high school. 215 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: But he stays in state at Yukon. He has three 216 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: different offensive coordinators in three years. It doesn't work out there. 217 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: He transfers to Eastern Kentucky. And I think he came 218 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: to the NFL and came to Green Bay with a 219 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder to show that you know what, 220 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: I belong in this league. I can play in this league. 221 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: And now he has the opportunity to stay on the 222 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: Packers fifty three and then just quickly on light. This 223 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: is a guy that was had two scholarship offers coming 224 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: out of high school. I believe it was Richmond and 225 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: VM I if I remember correctly, uh, And he was 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: told he was too small, he wasn't gonna be able 227 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: to play at a major college. And then lo and behold, 228 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: not only does he end up making the roster as 229 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: the ninth offensive lineman and an undrafted rookie, he played 230 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: left tackle for most of the preseason. You've covered this 231 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: league for a long time, like you know it. When 232 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: guys come in from those fcs, you know, sort of 233 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: left tackles or lower tier FBS schools, a lot of 234 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: times they end up moving them to into your alignment. 235 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: James correct James Campon took a look at light and 236 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: he said, no, I want you to play tackle, and 237 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: then here he is now. As he said, it kind 238 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: of caught him off guard at first, but at the 239 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: end of the day, it ended up being his ticket 240 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: to the roster. A lot of silence, a lot of anxiety, 241 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: but totally worth it for both of those guys to 242 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: end up being one of four undrafted rookies to make 243 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah. I can't imagine personally, just the nerves 244 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: and the anxiety of something like that for cutdown day, 245 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: for these young guys who you know, you know, you're 246 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: on the bubble. But that's all they know. What are 247 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: their chances of making it not making it? There's almost 248 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: no way to gauge it because there are so many 249 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: different factors that go into these decisions that the team's making. 250 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting because I've heard stories over the years from 251 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: lots of different players, and this can go a number 252 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: of different ways. This one, this particular year, it sounded 253 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: like these players their phone just never rang. They and 254 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: then the three o'clock deadline passes and they haven't gotten 255 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: a phone call. And you sit there and go, well, 256 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: I guess I've made the team because nobody called me. 257 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Other times you hear from players where maybe their position 258 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: coach sent them a quick text or a call, uh 259 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: to end the anxiety and just say, hey, you know 260 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: you've made it. You know we're good and everything so, 261 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: and there's never necessarily a rhyme or reason to how 262 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: these how these things work out. But these cut down 263 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: days can go in in so many different ways for 264 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: these guys, and I don't know, I just I can't 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: imagine trying to you know, I mean, waking up whatever 266 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: it is, eight nine o'clock in the morning, and they 267 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: get up and then they've got the six seven hours 268 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: of of agony, almost waiting to find out what their 269 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: future is. It's it's got to be. It's just it's 270 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: got to be rough. I give these guys a lot 271 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: of credit. Those I mean, even those who don't make it, 272 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll never hear from them again, but um, 273 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, they gave it everything they had and uh, 274 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: and now it's time to move on. Yeah, it's tough 275 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: because it isn't just that three o'clock headline. You know, 276 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: Boil and Light both talked about it to you. It's 277 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: the entire weekend. It's basically all the way up until Tuesday, 278 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: when I think you're guaranteed a paycheck of just you know, 279 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: not sure what's going to happen. Two thousand sixteen, Mike, 280 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: you go or two fifteen excuse me, Miles White, first 281 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: time in three camps, finally makes the roster and then 282 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: James Jones comes flying in the next day and whites 283 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: the corresponding roster move. It's just the nature of the beast. 284 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Nobody likes it, but the end of the day, the 285 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Packers are trying to put together their top fifty three players, 286 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes even if you make that initial cut doesn't 287 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: always mean you're going to be there the next Sunday. Yeah, 288 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Um. 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Okay, 298 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: one more topic I want to hit on before we 299 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: go today, West, and that's something that it was a 300 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: topic across the league throughout the preseason. We never really 301 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: got around to discussing it on this show. Seems like 302 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: now would be a decent time to do so. And 303 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is this whole new use of 304 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: the helmet rule that we saw a number of questionable flags. Um, 305 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: a number of players getting upset about calls being made 306 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: that they don't know what they did wrong and this 307 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: and that. Obviously in the preseason, the officials are looking 308 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: forward even more closely. It's a new rule. They're trying to, 309 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, trying to educate the players, trying to get 310 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: them accustomed to it, trying to get accustomed to what 311 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: they're looking for as officials and all that kind of stuff. 312 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: But bottom line, West, it was a little bit of 313 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: a mess in the preseason. Is this going to straighten 314 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: itself out in the regular season or how do you 315 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: see this evolving from here? Because it just it seems 316 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: like it's kind of just getting started. Yeah. It was 317 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: funny though, because I thought the first game the actors 318 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: played that that they opened the training or the preseason 319 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: with against the believe it was Tennessee. It was it 320 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: was like this is bad man, because it was like 321 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: every other play sometimes back to back places, there's just 322 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: flag after flag after flag. I think a running back 323 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: got called for lowering his helmet, basically running through the tackles. 324 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how else you're supposed to do that 325 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: if you're running back. I mean, they talk about pad level, 326 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: they don't talk about mall walking, you know, through the 327 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: offensive line. But I will say this as the at 328 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: least as it relates to Green Bay. I can't speak 329 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: for the NFL. It seemed like every preseason game it 330 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: got a little bit better. And you know, every year 331 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: we hear about these emphasis emphases. You go back and 332 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: that one year it was defensive holding, it was defensive 333 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: past interference, and the flags are just flying, and then 334 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: once you get to the regular season, they're a little 335 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: bit more conservative with it. Uh the refs are practicing, 336 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: they're they're working these things out to they're having the conversations. 337 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: So my hope would be is that And I've always 338 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: said this, Mike, you cannot rule this league objectively. You 339 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: just can't. It's a subjective league by nature. The game 340 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: itself is subjective. Where you want to put the football 341 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: when you're lining up for third and one is subjective. 342 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't care what you say until we start with 343 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: this type like maybe the tennis ball technology that shows 344 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: you where the ball actually wasps thing, But otherwise it's subjective. 345 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: You can't rule it objectively. So I hope my only 346 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: aspiration for this season there is a little bit of 347 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: wiggle room allowed, specifically with the helmet rule, for just 348 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: common sense to prevail. Yes, you do not want to 349 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: have the hit from Danny Trevathan on Davante Adams or 350 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: the Thomas Davis hit on Adams. You want to get 351 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: that out of the game. But we also saw some 352 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: really good competitive clean hits like the one on Marcedes 353 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Lewis or even more specifically, the one on Jamon Moore 354 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: against uh Riah was Oakland. You want to be able 355 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: to see those type of plays. You want to be 356 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: able to see competitive high level football in trying to 357 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: eliminate the egregious helmet helmet hits and and also have 358 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: some understanding that sometimes contact is going to happen to Yeah, 359 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on the uh the spoford soapbox a minute, 360 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, you gotta get the little graphic 361 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: I've said. I've said this in Insider inbox. I've had 362 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: conversations with you about it when it comes to these 363 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: safety rules, and I'm all for instituting these rules and 364 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: trying to make the game safer. The league has to 365 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: do it for its own future. I think I think 366 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: that's indisputable. My problem with it is I think they're 367 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: asking the officials on the field to do too much. 368 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: I think if you want to put these rules in 369 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: about lowering the helmet and certain types of contact and 370 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: all this, you have to let them go to replay 371 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: to decide these fifteen yard penalties. And I'm not I'm 372 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: not advocating four hour games with you know, fift twenty 373 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: stoppages for replays. I don't think that's necessarily good for 374 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: the game either. But you can't have these games decided 375 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: by a fifteen yard penalty in the fourth quarter on 376 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: a hit that at full speed looks like it could 377 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: be illegal according to the rule, and they throw the flag. 378 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: But then when you as you take one look at 379 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: it on replay and you're like, no, he hit him 380 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: with the shoulder. He didn't hit him with the helmet. 381 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: It's perfectly legal. Yet there's no redress for it. There's 382 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: no way to fix it. I think they're asking the 383 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: officials on the field to do too much, too, to 384 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: administer all of what I'll call the regular rules where 385 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: the ball is spotted for third and one, the past interference, 386 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: the holding calls, everything else, and then all these safety 387 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: rules on top of it. I just think it's too much. 388 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: Wes and and if the league is not going to 389 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: allow more of these safety rules to be subject to replay. 390 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna end up seeing games decided by 391 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: highly questionable calls and and the fans aren't gonna stand 392 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: for it. The fans are gonna get really, really upset, 393 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: and the players and the coaches are gonna get upset 394 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: about it too. Yeah, And I thought they made a 395 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: really good move. Probably maybe the best move the NFL 396 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: has made in relation to rules was a few years 397 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: ago when they when they really put an emphasis down 398 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: on the targeting, you know, leaving your body launching, yourself launching. 399 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I always go back to that game against Washington, I 400 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: think it was in two thousand twelve or thirteen where 401 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey ends up sustaining the concussion from a hit 402 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: from Brandon Merryweather remember who it was two. Lacey's rookie. Yeah, 403 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: and and those There's just no place for that in 404 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: this day and age. And I wish they could have 405 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: maybe just kind of rotated from that a little bit 406 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: to to try to eliminate the Davante Adams hits from 407 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: last year, as opposed to I think going on the 408 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: other side of it and taking your regular down and 409 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, the type of places you see all the time. 410 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: Because I go back to that, that running play was 411 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: the biggest eye open to me. I think it was 412 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: the Titans game. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Titans 413 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: were driving at that point in time, and the running 414 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: back puts his helmet down to go again in a 415 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, power type situation, and that's a fifteen yard 416 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: penalty that's stalled the drive. They end up punting two 417 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: plays later. Pat And now the thing I remember tweeting it, 418 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: or I remember writing about an inbox the next day. 419 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: If that's a If that's a Packers player and that 420 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: happens in the regular seasons, lambeau Field would have been 421 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: beside itself, no question. You know it was preseason. It's 422 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: the opponent. Nobody really cared. That's what I'm gonna be 423 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: keeping my eye on now that we get into the 424 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: regular season. Right, and my point about asking the officials 425 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: to do too much, I'll go to another rule that 426 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: generated a lot of discussion and and some change in 427 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: the rule book in the off season. The catch rule. Okay, 428 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: there's this whole thing now about control and two feet 429 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: down and a football move and all that they're trying 430 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: to get that straightened out. Okay, be that back judge 431 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: on the steam route down the middle, you're supposed to 432 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: watch when he has control the ball, gets two feet down, 433 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: makes a football move to complete the catch. But then 434 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: you're also supposed to know if the defender is lowering 435 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: his helmet and making an illegal contact that could be 436 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty on top. How is the human 437 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: being at live speed with some of the greatest athletes 438 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: on the planet supposed to keep track of all that 439 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: and call it correctly without going to replay. I I don't. 440 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to the officials, and the 441 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: fans get all mad at the officials, and they shouldn't. 442 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: It's not the officials fault. It's the league's fault. I've 443 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: always said this. I don't care if it's the NFL. 444 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Bayport in high school. I do. 445 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with being a referee at 446 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: any point in my lifetime. I couldn't do it all right, Well, 447 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: with that, West has signed off. I've never officiated a 448 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: football game, and we are going to sign off on 449 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers Unscripted. 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