WEBVTT - Conversations About A Wife's Worth

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no

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<v Speaker 1>Sillers podcast with your host not funk that with your

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<v Speaker 1>low glasses. Malone to him as a wife, right is

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<v Speaker 1>she becomes his living mannequin, like like Kanye's wife, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was his living mannequin. He could dress her up in

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<v Speaker 1>all of his fashion design ideas, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and have a mannequin that he could show up with

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<v Speaker 1>that he knew was everybody looked at this mannequin, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and she could show up and be this living, walking,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking mannequin that's pretty much styled and the creative, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>influence of Kanye in his full power. You see Kanye,

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<v Speaker 1>you see you see Kim Because broke up with the

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Jr. Yeah, I thought that was fantastic because now

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<v Speaker 1>all that funk Pete ship's not gonna be as confusing

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Do you think he was a bad look

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<v Speaker 1>for Pete? Like the name Pete? Do you think I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was pretty outstanding thing said about Pete. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I personally, having not represented the name particularly well myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't speak too loudly about it, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he did a terrible job. Who's the greatest Peter of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. Peter that was with Jesus. He's He's right

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<v Speaker 1>up there. He's probably number one. The greatest. Pete is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously gonna be Maravich and the character Peter Clemenza from

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<v Speaker 1>The Godfather. I thought that as well. No, no, Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Rose up in the top five. Pete. Oh yeah, Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he also had had that Charlie hustle thing going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of like being a member of the rose

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<v Speaker 1>Gold community and dyeing your hair black. That's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Rabbit, No, Peter Rabbit, cotton tail, all those bunny

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<v Speaker 1>things have to roll. Um the pumpkin eating gentleman. Also, Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>Booty the worst, the worst. Booty Jay is gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>your fade. What if Booty jais lines you up like

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<v Speaker 1>he was, like, I need that fade, Pete, then I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he kills me. It will be a fight to

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<v Speaker 1>the death because I want to kill him and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to survive If I lose Man, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>like the Karate Kid too, where the guys like Liver

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<v Speaker 1>tie Man and the Chinese Japanese guys like die. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if he just killed me, Man because I would have

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand jokes and ship. Ah, you're just saving me

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<v Speaker 1>having to walk up a million flight of stairs to

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<v Speaker 1>jump off a building. Let's just do it here, all right. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>so kim now kim Is is back on the market. Yeah, hooray.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you take her back? Ask him or ask me?

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking for him? Okay? Does you take her back? In

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<v Speaker 1>Yea's mind? No? No, no no no. Your ship with

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<v Speaker 1>you and Ya's mind would be way more intriguing. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're the little man on your shoulder, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you telling you? For? Once in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you fucking listen to me? Would be my opening line. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And if I get his attention even a slight nod,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, don't even fucking think about it. Okay. Now, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's ignoring you like always, we should make that

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<v Speaker 1>a skin that should be like your skin. We should

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<v Speaker 1>do a skin where it's me and you on each

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder and I'm trying to tell him to do something

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<v Speaker 1>right and you're tell him to do something wrong. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be easy to just do the podcast like that,

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<v Speaker 1>where instead of having the border, we just have like

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<v Speaker 1>half of kanyas head in the middle, separating the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be a cool production bid from here on out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we should do that once a month where we

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<v Speaker 1>give advice to one person, but we have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the opposite end of it. But no, we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We could actually keep it at being Okay, So now

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<v Speaker 1>what is Kanye gonna do because he's ignoring you? Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>he does something that involves hiding in the bushes and

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<v Speaker 1>her driveway again and then this time just makes it

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<v Speaker 1>into the house like a success. He takes her back. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>after all this ship. If he doesn't, it's he's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy who has to throw good money after

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<v Speaker 1>are bad, so he might as well. Uh no, sinlings,

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<v Speaker 1>g low my man, Peter and this spiz eye, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going his eye. So you don't see no value in

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<v Speaker 1>having a wife, there's no value in having a wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Define value. Okay, so there's a real definition of worth

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<v Speaker 1>and value. But let me tell you my definition. So

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<v Speaker 1>worth is personal like personal, appraisal like subjective its just

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<v Speaker 1>me personal right, personal like like the owner and the

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<v Speaker 1>actual product itself to worth. And then I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to believe the value is the perception of appraisal. So

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<v Speaker 1>worth is self and personal appraisal value is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the market, the market itself. Gosh, that's what I like

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<v Speaker 1>to believe, those two words. And that's gonna be classes

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<v Speaker 1>definition of worth and value. That's fair. When I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>you about worth personally, does a wife have any where?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you appraise a wife at and having a wife

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<v Speaker 1>from the objective market value standpoint? There? No, no, Now

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<v Speaker 1>you've been going to a community, I'm saying you just

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<v Speaker 1>it would have to be personally. You get you appraising

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<v Speaker 1>having the perfect wife, not a perfect woman, but the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect wife. You mean, the the second most perfect wife.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the second most perfect wife would be on

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<v Speaker 1>the near side of the threshold of not existing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your the second most perfect wife, all right. Um, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the only worth that a wife would have to me

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<v Speaker 1>is on occasion, like you know, if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be accountable to somebody else to get up and go

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<v Speaker 1>do something you don't want to do, you're more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to do it than if it's just about you doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for yourself on a bad day. That yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only value. There's no other value, So just somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to be accountable to. Yeah, no other appraisal like you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't you know volume more than that, I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know hypothetically what to pretend to value them at. As

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<v Speaker 1>a wife, you you have no appreciation for the living. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a negative, that's a that's a that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>positive self? Why is that a negative thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that lives in that cooks for you? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't guarantee they're gonna cook something that I want all

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<v Speaker 1>the time for one, for two, they're taking up space,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in my ship, they're always fucking there. Just sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 1>What if she cooked all of the things you want

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<v Speaker 1>her to cook? What's the difference the cost benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the that I'd hire a cook for fox sake? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I can cook. I can cook everything. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, how much is a cook? How much

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<v Speaker 1>is a wife? I don't know. I think a cook

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<v Speaker 1>might be worth cost more than a wife. If you

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<v Speaker 1>got a wife that don't work, the cook is cheaper. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because you any adult because has to take care of himselfs.

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<v Speaker 1>So you take care of yourself as you take care

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<v Speaker 1>of you you pretty much you might get an excess

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand dollars a month, because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay like as an adult, right as me and grown

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<v Speaker 1>me in right, we pretty much take care of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say at the worst case scenario, well, at

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<v Speaker 1>the least case scenario, you're given your wife five dred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a week. That's what it's as seen you outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the normal things you would have to pay for. Right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit more fool Yes there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>more things, but out of the you could get a maide.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh uh. And I'm not And I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>compare wife to a maid because they really are. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to disrespect the maid. Wait, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>you say, because they really are. That wasn't the type

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<v Speaker 1>of I didn't women gonna talk ship, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling uh them girl at van length, this

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<v Speaker 1>show at uh did you see it? It's uh higher learning?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up? Let me uh hold up because I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bad Rachel. I was telling Rachel she was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast and she was talking about you. I had

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<v Speaker 1>I had the higher learning that hasn't came out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was telling her that she was tripping off

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And I was saying, this is honestly, what

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<v Speaker 1>men really anything? Now you have the version of what

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<v Speaker 1>men think, you know that's out there, like right now

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<v Speaker 1>you have men like posturing over earth. Got his interview

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<v Speaker 1>with UH with Noria Gonna Drink camps where they're upset

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<v Speaker 1>because he's literally expressing how he feels slighted by his ex,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his ex girl and this talent he put

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<v Speaker 1>on in the music business, right, which is Ashanti, And

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty much voice that you could tell his disdain

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<v Speaker 1>for her and how he feels he's emotionally, he feels

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way. His heart is broken. It's obvious, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you got dudes like, oh you know

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<v Speaker 1>that was the Sucker Ship and blah blah blah and

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<v Speaker 1>this that in the third and I'm like, look, as

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<v Speaker 1>a I fancy myself a player, right, not a player

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<v Speaker 1>like I have multiple girls. A player in a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of I'm not going to always show you my emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not this in anybody who does this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very unhealthy way of living that I live. It's

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy in the way that even in my situation, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I don't deal with my feelings or internalize them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't externalize them. So I'm not worried if you're

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<v Speaker 1>concern I deal with him and I read and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I deal with him how I deal with them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I I contend with him and I make decisions based

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<v Speaker 1>off how everything is coming to me. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's nothing horrible about me and who

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<v Speaker 1>externalize their emotions, right, They're just different and internalizing his

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<v Speaker 1>emotions after drinking on drink Champs and people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's blah blah blood and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could tell they were really keeping to women

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<v Speaker 1>like they were just like trying to say what they feel.

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<v Speaker 1>That fucking horrible bro. And it's like Ashanti wouldn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a person like you, You're fucking loser. She don't

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<v Speaker 1>want no nice That's why she's talking to fucking earth

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the first place. Then we don't nobody respect

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<v Speaker 1>no sucker like that. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>no nigga. So long story short, he's externalizing his emotions

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<v Speaker 1>in his interview. But back to the our digress, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what I was The point I was making to you

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<v Speaker 1>is this no ceilings is about honest conversations you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like, the whole premise of no Ceilings

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<v Speaker 1>was having these conversations about you know, we were inside

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<v Speaker 1>of a mountain. It's about going in unlit caves from

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<v Speaker 1>an urban perspective. And then you have like a you

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<v Speaker 1>have such a you've been in some of these tunnels

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<v Speaker 1>with some people that's from the community, but you still

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<v Speaker 1>very much are you know, to some level, actually at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not even a mainstream person. But that was the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Your your main street person who understands. That's the premise

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<v Speaker 1>of no ceilings, these very uncomfortable conversations about life. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was explaining that to Rachel, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling her so even in this conversation, most men feel

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<v Speaker 1>like women are living maids, living uh sex slaves, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>living that's the concept of marriage. That's why you that's

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<v Speaker 1>why in theory you are willing to put the old

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<v Speaker 1>ball and chain on your ankle, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why so many men sleep with their maids

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a confusing dynamics. True shout out to Arnold Schwartzenegger. True.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I'm saying I don't mean it to be insulting,

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<v Speaker 1>women rate you. If you're listening to this podcast, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this is the perspective, right. Um So, if

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<v Speaker 1>you take care of all the bills, you take care

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<v Speaker 1>right normally as an adult to take care of themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman. If you give your old lady five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month, let's say, five dollars a week. She

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<v Speaker 1>don't work, you know, I mean, but she don't have

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<v Speaker 1>no bills, no responsibilities. To give her five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a week, okay, and to get a maid, a chef,

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<v Speaker 1>and a sex leave, it's going to cost you. So

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<v Speaker 1>so you're given it a two thousand dollars a month, right,

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<v Speaker 1>then you pay it whatever be you gotta cup with

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<v Speaker 1>extra comes about it. It's gonna cost you more than

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars. Yeah, but you're certainly not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get obviously you're not you're not going leading chief, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely not gonna get a sex leg. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get any of those things. It's um it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, and and and you're compromising an awful lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what do you really compromising? Opportunity? Cost is

0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the off The book's expense. What's the opportunity other things,

0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:53.920
<v Speaker 1>your time, your personal enjoyment, other women, um, peace of mind,

0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.400
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of interesting, valuable things. But can't you work

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<v Speaker 1>it out with a woman and have other women? Yeah?

0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Those are usually called divorces. And that's when you pay

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<v Speaker 1>on the back end for all that discount cooking you've

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<v Speaker 1>been enjoying the last several years while paying for also okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh okay, it's it's it's a bit of Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on the Some people really really need companionship

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<v Speaker 1>to function, and for that it's a very there's more

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<v Speaker 1>worth there, you know. I'm always a little bit you're

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<v Speaker 1>a market guy. Well yeah, but like just on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the human side, Like I think marriage is that

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<v Speaker 1>do well you Usually it's you get married when you're

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<v Speaker 1>young enough to not know the world outside of your marriage,

0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.760
<v Speaker 1>or you got married we are old enough to not

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<v Speaker 1>care about the world outside of your marriage. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually agree with the latter, And I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you get married at thirty, when you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>know about I've said that, like it's tough to really

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<v Speaker 1>be married when you know the wonders of other women.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think it's easier when you've never been with

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<v Speaker 1>another woman, you know what I mean. It's easier when

0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you never been with another woman and you don't know

0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.360
<v Speaker 1>what you're you know, the concept of what you're missing, right,

0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't know that. So marriage is easier, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier when you older and you're like, you've seen it

0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:42.560
<v Speaker 1>all right now, you're not seeing anything you're not gonna see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if it's like twenty two, it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>age to get married. Forty two is a good age

0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.240
<v Speaker 1>to get married. Thirty two it is not a good

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<v Speaker 1>ash to get married. I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if twenty two is even Asian more. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be like nineteen or twenty because I probably

0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.240
<v Speaker 1>need to go back to that range. You need to

0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 1>get it done because if you it's the comparison game.

0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying the word of women to you, the

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:15.159
<v Speaker 1>worth of a wife to you is very low, very low. Um,

0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Where do you think wives are right now? In just

0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.959
<v Speaker 1>value market? They're high. A lot of that has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with perception, I mean a lot. You know, you

0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a lot of ways. I mean, like,

0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.480
<v Speaker 1>for example, it's it's not terribly dissimilar to you citing

0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh gentlemen or or or other multi people

0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that you would known in the past who thought that

0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.119
<v Speaker 1>they were if they slept with when you slept with

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:45.920
<v Speaker 1>there on your level, there's a certain elements like if

0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you have ambitions of being perceived in a professional circle

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<v Speaker 1>or a social circle a certain way, your spouse can

0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.040
<v Speaker 1>either enhance that or it can work the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it can detract from from that. So there there

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<v Speaker 1>can be value there. Um like most presidents all pretty

0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>much all presidents have been married, right boy, Yeah, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be uh slim pickens to find one that hasn't been.

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there has been one. Um does

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<v Speaker 1>does Kim? And I don't want to gossip about them

0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:31.439
<v Speaker 1>because do you think him brings a market share value

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<v Speaker 1>to Kanye? Yes? Where specifically, um it bring it broadens

0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:49.320
<v Speaker 1>his brands to a degree. He and and and timing

0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and alternative considerations matter. Like before her he was with

0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that Amber Rose girl, right, that doesn't do much for

0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>him there, it's not if you if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be married, Sure, I get it. Yeah, Um, I think

0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that like now he's kind of simultaneously gotten further into

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<v Speaker 1>like say, more of a high fashion type of environment,

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<v Speaker 1>whilst also pairing with the Kardashian brand, which has a

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<v Speaker 1>footprinted in that industry. So somebody told me that now

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I had to explain to them they didn't have any

0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 1>footprint in high fashion. They're literally they literally were jokes

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in high fashion before Kanye, Like they didn't was funny

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.879
<v Speaker 1>as people when I was coming up, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for a while. You know, Kim is not

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<v Speaker 1>that old, but I'm saying they were jokes in the industry,

0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.480
<v Speaker 1>like people kind of looked at them as cheap knockoffs

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 1>until Kanye. Kanye brought the value of high Kanye has

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.480
<v Speaker 1>always been you know, smiled at in high fashion until

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it came to start in his own business. Once you

0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.200
<v Speaker 1>start trying to start it, that's when we start having problems.

0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.200
<v Speaker 1>But when he was just a fan and and a

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<v Speaker 1>and a consumer, like he was getting invited to all

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<v Speaker 1>of the looks, and she wasn't. I mean, she was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of frowned upon. They looked at them as because

0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.680
<v Speaker 1>they are like a forgive me, this is gonna sound bad.

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean no disrespect to your family. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>this and I'm saying like they were cheap, they didn't

0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 1>represent wealth or or like royalty. They was just like

0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the family who got put on because their dad was

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 1>like a third or fourth chair in a huge murder

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>trial and the new husband was Olympic medalist that nobody

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>cared about the specific sport, and your daughter slept with

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:48.400
<v Speaker 1>multiple She was popular for being what socially people were

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.560
<v Speaker 1>referred to kind of as promiscuous. And then the ray

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>J take came out and that really put the blast

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 1>on the Kardashian name. So they were looked at as

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<v Speaker 1>cheap until they got with Yea, and Yea is always

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>was considered a brilliant person within the creative spaces. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird because I think they do get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of credit. I think as a wife, she got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of credit for things that just are one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeen percent and not true. But I do agree

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:27.399
<v Speaker 1>they are mainstays in mainstream like to another level to

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 1>where it's like almost unbelievable how much they are mainstays

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and mainstream America. So it did kind of it. We're

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>from him just being just a rapper, you know, or

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a popular, you know, taste maker to some degree outside

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.720
<v Speaker 1>of just being a dope hip hop artist, and it

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of locked him into mainstream completely unique then where

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he was at initially. Yeah, and it's difficult to consider

0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:01.120
<v Speaker 1>both of the two arcs of their endeavors independently once

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they're no longer independent, you know, like the Kardashian machine

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>was accelerating either which way, you know, And they had

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the younger daughters coming out like that. There was some

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.479
<v Speaker 1>snowballing that was starting to happen there, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>gets tied up with Kanye. So it's like I think

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>before that when she first started her little show, she

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>can't have like a little some little fragrance thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was like the first deal. And then they're doing

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 1>makeup and now they're doing this and it so so

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>there's like this constant and it's and now they're showing

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 1>up at all the galles. But post Kanye, um what

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And I have a song called Kanye should have Never

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Married that it's obviously people and listen to this podcast.

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You noticed, right, But now that they already passed that

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:57.120
<v Speaker 1>place right in, that cautionary tale has been avoided, right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>are you saying that there's potential for a remix. Uh,

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought about that. It is the reality, you know. Yeah,

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it's his family now, you know what I'm saying, Like

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>now like you've already went past it. Now this motherfucker

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that made a fool out of you, feel me, But

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 1>she got your children, you know what I mean. And

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>as a black man in America, it's really important that

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>we are as much as possible involved in our children's

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>life because we already got a ton of bad you know,

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 1>ship going on to where if we a little bit removed,

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>ship can just happen. I mean, they could have it

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>funked up when we're there, but you know, it's it's

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>way easier to get into it when we're not there.

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And so like he's almost out a position to where

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>he's so deep into it where he almost has to

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>go back with his old lady, you know what I mean.

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's a I still would say no. But because

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>of his position and in life, he can't just see

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the world the way I see. He sees it in

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>a broader spectrum honestly, you know what I mean. Like

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>he always has is a really talented, god really masterful,

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I was just thinking

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>about that, like, damn is her word to him? Like

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>what does she bring to him? And I think what

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>her worth is to him as a wife, right is

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 1>she becomes his living mannequin, Like like Kanye's wife, you know,

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 1>was his living mannequin. He could dress her up in

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>all of his fashion design ideas, you know what I mean,

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and have a mannequin that he could show up with

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that he knew was everybody looked at this mannequin, I mean,

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and she could show up and be this living, walking,

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 1>speaking mannequin that's pretty much styled and the creative you know,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>influence of Kanye in his full power her. So her

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>word for him is through the roof. I mean, that's

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, That's what what's crazy is to me. More

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>than anything, she became his living She is the most popular.

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Now people don't give her credit for this, and and

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>you know even I don't at times, but really thinking

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>about it, she's probably the the the most popular model

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the world. You mean that

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 1>there's there's people that just model that are popular, but

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>she is literally the most popular, you know model in

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the world. So into the opera book club thing, huh,

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Like her name associations turned into like the Operah book

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Club factor. Yeah, so I get why, you know what

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she has a huge worth for him as

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>his wife, you know what I'm saying, because she becomes

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>the perfect mannequin for him to create creative ideas and

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>for people to admire. Um, her value is different. And

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Like, this is a situation to where

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like somebody got a car that really don't

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>have a huge value. Like I don't think it's a

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand men around the country that would really marry Kim.

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they will, but they wouldn't be of special

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to her. They wouldn't be of her status like you know,

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it'd be people she like bringing up um,

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's a tough situation. So I think

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>this is the perfect example where somebody somebody's worth is

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>superb as a wife, but then her value is completely different. Yeah.

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I think for him personally, like from his actual like

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle worth, he's a pretty eccentric guy. I don't think

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>anybody would describe him as a as the poster boy

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>for emotionals to be And I think that because he's

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>like such an like eccentric, artsy minded person all the time.

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>She probably gives him enough of something else to worry

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 1>about to where he doesn't get buried into these weird

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>mentals or emotional wormholes, so off mainstream, just wanting to

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>not wanting to embarrass her, Yeah, or he just doesn't

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>have the time like it. Like if it takes you

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>three hours to like you know how, you could like

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>like YouTube and then you watch another video that's recommended,

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and another one and another one, and then before you

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>know what, you're watching some weird ship. If she interrupts

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>him and turns off the YouTube every thirty minutes and

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get that weird. And I definitely think it's

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>funny you say that, because I definitely think he's a

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>lot more under control for the fear of not embarrassing her,

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>because you know, women, The one thing I realized about women,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to be embarrassed. Their number one fear

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>of all fears is being embarrassed. Yes, it's just a

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>woman would probably rather that her husband find out she

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>was cheating than the neighborhood. Not probably, I don't think's

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>hear close. Probably yea. At some point it would be

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Bill, you're supposed to find out. But

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>could you do me a favorite? I'll tell anybody that's

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>really how we go though. Bro. But but but I'm

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you I realized something. Insecure women hurt themselves.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Insecure men hurt other people. Mhm like So a really insecure,

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>damaged person, a woman will hurt herself. She'll go get

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a BBL. She'll put these crazy pounds of makeup to

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>miss up her skin. She'll wear these crazy shoe use

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and mess up her feet. Should wear these you know,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>uh what you call them waste trainers that messes up

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that part and push up all this crazy stuff to

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>her to herself, you mean to to deny the makeup

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that denies her skin? Son? You know, I mean the

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>thing that really gives it is glowing exuberance. Men when

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they're insecure, you know they're really you know, severely insecure

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>or hurt, they go out and ruin everybody else. And

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of myself was worse, and somebody was

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>telling me that they felt it was worse for the man.

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>But uh nifty quoted somebody and I forgot the person

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he quoted, So I'm gonna give him credit for this quote.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I've heard it before, but I don't remember where it

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>came from, so nip reminding me of it and rest

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>rest in peace. And he is would you rather be

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>at peace with yourself and at war with the world

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>versus being at war with yourself and at peace with

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the world. And that's why I think peace within yourself

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is more important than peace with the world. There's a

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>balance in real life, but if you had to choose,

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I think being at peace with yourself is better. Probably, yeah.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I would like to submit the idea that an insecure

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>woman hurts everybody around her inadvertently, and an insecure man

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>hurts everybody around him advertently. It seems like women will

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like want to go do whatever the hell they want

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to do. I want, I need to go find myself

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or go on this journey, to go explore their being

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>at the expense of everybody else around them, whereas a guy,

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll just be like funk everybody else around me. They're

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna feel me here and now. Oh yeah, I can

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>feel that. But I don't know. I don't think a

0:30:54.200 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>severely insecure woman, oh damage woman, you know mean, hurts

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>other people around her. I think I think they're always

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>looking to be healed they just become a lot more selfish,

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>but even if possible. But I don't think they start

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>off like that. I think like women, women are raised

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and nurtured to give, and I think the experiences on earth.

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I know when they little, they are man women are

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>so when they're young and they're healthy, women are the

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>most generous in giving people, you know, species period. You

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying they are. But as they go

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>through life, things that they're taught, you feel me and experience,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is that they have realized or I need to have

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>something for myself. I don't think that's their natural nature.

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's where where I disagree. You'll know where I've said

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it before. But like where I think a woman will

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in her pursuit of her own or whatever. Let's say

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a married lady with If you're talking, I cannot hear you.

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Hell is that yours? Peter mind? The head is going on.

0:32:55.080 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened to Pete microphone. But uh,

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the more I think about it, That's why I genuinely

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>believe that the more I think about it, I genuinely

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>believe that women right are you know, their nurtured, They're

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>born as the most given species. Right there. They're they're

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>superbly generous. I mean, even when they get you know,

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>easy bake ovens, um, even when they get easy bake ovens,

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they're making stuff to give to other people. And I

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>just think the world that that we've created at this time,

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, I just think that turns

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>women into these kind of monsters that we call women today.

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean that they they've become like and and that's

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the point. I think the male species and the female

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>species are both parodies of themselves, you know what I mean, Like,

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>they're both parodies of themselves. And hence the dilemma what

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, hence the issues more and more, more and more,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>more and more. Yeah, so that's the tricky part. I

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>think naturally they were they are the given species. Yet

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the world that that has been created. Every day they

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>get older, they they they they are led to believe

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and emotionally, and you know, really it's a it's a

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>travesty that they have to have something for themselves. I

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're a giving species that I think they're

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>giving the way democrats are giving. They're good at giving

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>away other people's ship. Men are producers and women are

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>consumers from an evolutionary standpoint, and they're of it giving

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>away stuff to people that was brought to them from

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a scientific measure. I can see how that's a real conversation,

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's nuanced. It's real nuance. Huh. That's a big nuance.

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Well because okay in theory, yeah, like right, like a

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>husband gives a wife a seed, right, and that's really

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>what he puts in that dirt. But that nine months

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of nurturing and all of that stuff to grow this

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 1>tree or to to develop this plant. You know, you

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you yes, he in theory gave her his seat. I

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even talking about that. Okay, Well that's the that's

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the most simple that is. Yeah, that's much more biological.

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Um I think in general speak, dating back to the caveman,

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, the men would go out, like when

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>we lived in pods or packs or whatever's human means,

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>men will go out hunting, gathered, bring stuff back, and

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>women would distributed among themselves and the kids or do whatever,

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, do whatever they did with it, you know,

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and same like now like you see like these really benevolent,

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>generous housewives down in Newport that they'll give whoever a

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>bunch of money, Yes, because it's some guys credit card

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that they stuffed. Their person said, there you go, sweetheart,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>so you see to give away money that was brought

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 1>to you with deposit into your account because you're there.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>So right now, where would you appraise value women's value?

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, let's say we're comparing it to the last

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred years. Is it that the highest point their value?

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Or is at the lowest point their value? Their value

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 1>potential is at its highest point, their value actuality um

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>is at its lowest point. And why is it? I

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>think because they do more to generate the value now,

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but it is of no worth to the men that

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>seek them. Okay, keep going elaborate further. Well, I mean, like,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think a gentleman like Kevin Samuel's got

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>pretty famous stating the obvious here earlier on his a

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>sent to uh, you know, internet type fame. But if

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>if a woman has some career and makes a bunch

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of money, most guys don't give a ship, you know,

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So they can invest ninety hours a week into being

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a corporate litigat or whatever the hell it is that

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they want to do. That's fine. We don't care buy

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and large. It's nice to have, but we'd rather have

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>other things. M hm. So so there's a distance disassociation

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>of um, the agendas. It's kind of like almost what

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>they do with their looks they do with their lives. Uh,

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in sofar as how men value different stuff, like like

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the shopping mall, you know, reference they opened up a

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>hat store and and nobody wants hats. We want shoes.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But they're just gonna keep it with the fucking hats,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>just gonna keep going with the hats. But we don't

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 1>want we we just want shoes and shirts. And how

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>is this comparable to what women are doing? Women, they're

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep going with the eyelashes and the hair and

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the makeup and all the nails and all the ship.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And we don't like those things, but they're gonna keep

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>sucking doing it, sure ship. And it's the same as

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, well they want to go do the career

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>thing and all this other ship and you know whatever,

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and then bitch about why they're not married at forty. Well,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, keep doing that stuff. We don't want that.

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna keep it with the hats, and we're gonna

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>keep wanting the shoes and shirts. Shit, we gotta get

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the right personal here to talk to you about this,

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>because I get the I can't even necessarily disagree. Wives

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>are definitely focusing on things that husbands have no value

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>for it, nor do they gear. Yeah, it's almost like

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>women are are working to be as you know, like

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the independent woman. Well, if you want to be an

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>independent woman, don't bitch about not having a man, because

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that's what you wanted. You want it to be independent

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>of having a man in your life. Now you don't

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>have a man in your life. And no, But is

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>that is that what they mean when they say independent?

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they meant to say that they were so sufficient. Yeah,

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>but what does that really mean? That's the that's the

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>principle of unintended consequences that they don't tend to grasp

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.959
<v Speaker 1>very well. Fair, Fair, you're using words that really mean

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than what you mean by them. Yeah,

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a superficial, simple, basic cause and effect, but there's

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>also a deeper, multifaceted cause and effect that they are

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>just like fucking the human that that. I always say

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that certain things we we conjure up certain ideas with

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>using certain words and don't realize that these words all

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>have power. The word loyalty, that's a short sighted word

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that's used today. Uh. Generational wealth is a short sighted

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>word used to that most people that create generational wealth

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>they pretty much don't care about nothing because they're so

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>focused on just earning and creating as whatever you know

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>they're doing. Yeah, they're not focusing on generational wealth. You Typically,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they're focusing on something that they really really like are

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>invested in, and it's just yielding wealth. Um. So now

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that we've talked about the like like that, do you

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>think like, like, let's let's not even say me or

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you or Kanye. Let's say jay Z and Beyonce. This

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce bring a value to Jake, I actually brings a

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>nor misvalue j I think. I think she is certainly

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>the more valuable asset in that pair. Who is deep deep? Um?

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I think one thing like like in looking back at

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 1>the only because I just saw the picture, I didn't

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>even realize that they dated, but there was like a

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>picture circulating around Instagram mterday of like Dame dash and

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Aliah going to some movie premiere at workshop or something

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. That kind of sort of describes the difference

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>between those two guys, is the dinner between Elia and

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce at least great. I'm huge fan vers, but Beyonce's

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>like significant, she's she's a monster child. Yeah and some degree. Yeah,

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that Jay is more content to build

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>off the people around him, and Dames seems like the

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy who wants the people around him to

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:13.839
<v Speaker 1>build off of him. M hmm, it's not crazy's how

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>it played out in retrospect, it seems, man, that's deep.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I gotta make sure Dame here that so we can

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>call me a moron on a much. I don't think

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he would really disagree like that. And and that is

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of an issue, you know what I mean, Like

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>you have to find a perfect space, like I would

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>advise to most women and wives, like you have to

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>find a much better space of how to allow people

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to use you and then't know when you've been used up.

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the hardest part of human beings to know when

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>they've been used up. Yeah. And I think also part

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of it is people wanna they have a certain relationship

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>with pride and credit, like meaning getting credit for a thing,

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>not like debt potential were Like some people are like

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>if I if I'm not if this thing doesn't have

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 1>my name written all over it as the guy who

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>invented it, produced it, created and distributed it. I don't

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>want to ride on somebody else's coattails, you know. I

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to collapse too much. Some people want it

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to be three sixty them. Some people are like, look,

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Whatever gives me the most money. You

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>can sign my namesake away all day long. Yeah it's

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. Yeah. Um. If there was any woman, I

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.439
<v Speaker 1>ain't maash you just because you don't give a funk.

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I gotta find the right woman to talk to you. Uh,

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what's the greatest? What's the greatest popular? You know, if

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>anybody listening, because the people that listen to my podcast,

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>most likely they're not really that mainstream. I mean, what's

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>but but they are aware of the mainstream they live

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>their life. If there was the greatest, if there's a

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>greatest situation to where a wife bringing entirely too much

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>value to her husband right in the public, main state

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>that everybody would know about, which one would it be?

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. My initial thought would be I

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>gravitated out of the gate to Lucille Ball and Desi

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>ar Nest. But I think Desi was like the production

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>brilliance behind that show and she was the talent, so

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it kind of worked well. So I'm gonna throw a

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>curve ball out there, and I'm gonna say Michelle Obama

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>any way more for her on the on the value scale, Yep,

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:04.959
<v Speaker 1>that's deep, if elaborate. Give me why, um, she gave

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 1>him a lot of the connections in the Chicago that

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>made him viable m hm. And otherwise, like by his

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>own admission, he's kind of a like lazy hack of

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 1>a guy with a great resume, you know, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how the hell even got. But additionally, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he ran for office kind of earlier in his

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<v Speaker 1>career and got like blown out in a primary by

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<v Speaker 1>another like local Chicago black politician because he like wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>black or Chicago enough. And Michelle solved that problem for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't have solved that problem for himself. That's actually

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. She did. Oh that's fair to say

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<v Speaker 1>she did. And it's weird because you're a white person

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<v Speaker 1>had noticed that. But she did bring she does bring

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more blackness to him than we ever give her.

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<v Speaker 1>Creat Like we we because as a kid who grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the Yi and all these different places, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably wasn't the token. And he's not even like

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<v Speaker 1>culturally speaking, his dad's not from Houston. His dad's from Kenya,

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<v Speaker 1>the real the real Africa. Yeah, so he's not lack

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<v Speaker 1>American culture. He didn't go to the the coolness that

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<v Speaker 1>he presents. There's a lot more Michelle Obama's influence. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not crazy. You know what's funny? Guy actually can

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<v Speaker 1>see how that that's the thought. I mean, I couldn't verify,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's deep she is. That's the sister for real too.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah yeah, okay, and and and she's smart, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's a fucking beast like and talk about like to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the original point like earlier accountable to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's a lazy guy who wants to like pontificate

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<v Speaker 1>and smoke weed m and she's like, no, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go do this today. He's gonna go do that

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<v Speaker 1>today when she gets in his ass. Okay, So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the exact opposite somebody who overvalues their wife man um

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably the default setting, but at at the highest

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<v Speaker 1>main stay managed team level, it's hard to say, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in that because I want to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't know who the wife is, but oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be a situation where a wife got

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<v Speaker 1>a claim purely by virtue of her marriage, just just

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<v Speaker 1>like used a husband to catapult into becoming somebody. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Hillary Clinton would have been a back

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<v Speaker 1>room paper pushing lawyer without Bill mm hm. He had

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<v Speaker 1>all the political no how all the charisma, all the connections,

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<v Speaker 1>all the everything. She went out of law school and

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<v Speaker 1>was like defending. She was like a criminal defense attorney

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. She would stay doing that. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's the type of person who doesn't even play well

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<v Speaker 1>to a jury. She wouldn't even be like a courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Shapiro, Johnny Cochrane type of guy. She'd be the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who she'd be like finding nuanced you know, corporate

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<v Speaker 1>law to get Bank of America out of trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>the I R S. She says, no personality. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably that's a fairly hot take. But I mean, for

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<v Speaker 1>God's sake, I mean, Donald Donald Trump didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>support in I mean, he won because of an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>lack of interest in Hillary Clinton. It was like the

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<v Speaker 1>US voter turnout combination election like ever relative to the

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<v Speaker 1>population size. Good looking out for tuning into the No

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<v Speaker 1>Sellers Podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, commenty share.

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