Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host not funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses. Malone to him as a wife, right is
Speaker 1: she becomes his living mannequin, like like Kanye's wife, you know,
Speaker 1: was his living mannequin. He could dress her up in
Speaker 1: all of his fashion design ideas, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and have a mannequin that he could show up with
Speaker 1: that he knew was everybody looked at this mannequin, I mean,
Speaker 1: and she could show up and be this living, walking,
Speaker 1: speaking mannequin that's pretty much styled and the creative, you know,
Speaker 1: influence of Kanye in his full power. You see Kanye,
Speaker 1: you see you see Kim Because broke up with the
Speaker 1: Pete Jr. Yeah, I thought that was fantastic because now
Speaker 1: all that funk Pete ship's not gonna be as confusing
Speaker 1: for me. Do you think he was a bad look
Speaker 1: for Pete? Like the name Pete? Do you think I
Speaker 1: mean it was pretty outstanding thing said about Pete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I personally, having not represented the name particularly well myself,
Speaker 1: I can't speak too loudly about it, but I thought
Speaker 1: he did a terrible job. Who's the greatest Peter of
Speaker 1: all time. Peter that was with Jesus. He's He's right
Speaker 1: up there. He's probably number one. The greatest. Pete is
Speaker 1: obviously gonna be Maravich and the character Peter Clemenza from
Speaker 1: The Godfather. I thought that as well. No, no, Pete
Speaker 1: Rose up in the top five. Pete. Oh yeah, Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: But then he also had had that Charlie hustle thing going.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like being a member of the rose
Speaker 1: Gold community and dyeing your hair black. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Peter Rabbit, No, Peter Rabbit, cotton tail, all those bunny
Speaker 1: things have to roll. Um the pumpkin eating gentleman. Also, Pete,
Speaker 1: Booty the worst, the worst. Booty Jay is gonna take
Speaker 1: your fade. What if Booty jais lines you up like
Speaker 1: he was, like, I need that fade, Pete, then I
Speaker 1: hope he kills me. It will be a fight to
Speaker 1: the death because I want to kill him and I
Speaker 1: don't want to survive If I lose Man, it'll be
Speaker 1: like the Karate Kid too, where the guys like Liver
Speaker 1: tie Man and the Chinese Japanese guys like die. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he just killed me, Man because I would have
Speaker 1: a thousand jokes and ship. Ah, you're just saving me
Speaker 1: having to walk up a million flight of stairs to
Speaker 1: jump off a building. Let's just do it here, all right. Look,
Speaker 1: so kim now kim Is is back on the market. Yeah, hooray.
Speaker 1: Did you take her back? Ask him or ask me?
Speaker 1: Thinking for him? Okay? Does you take her back? In
Speaker 1: Yea's mind? No? No, no no no. Your ship with
Speaker 1: you and Ya's mind would be way more intriguing. So
Speaker 1: if you're if you're the little man on your shoulder, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you telling you? For? Once in your life?
Speaker 1: Will you fucking listen to me? Would be my opening line. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And if I get his attention even a slight nod,
Speaker 1: I'll say, don't even fucking think about it. Okay. Now, Now,
Speaker 1: if he's ignoring you like always, we should make that
Speaker 1: a skin that should be like your skin. We should
Speaker 1: do a skin where it's me and you on each
Speaker 1: shoulder and I'm trying to tell him to do something
Speaker 1: right and you're tell him to do something wrong. That
Speaker 1: would be easy to just do the podcast like that,
Speaker 1: where instead of having the border, we just have like
Speaker 1: half of kanyas head in the middle, separating the screen.
Speaker 1: It might be a cool production bid from here on out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we should do that once a month where we
Speaker 1: give advice to one person, but we have to be
Speaker 1: on the opposite end of it. But no, we don't.
Speaker 1: We could actually keep it at being Okay, So now
Speaker 1: what is Kanye gonna do because he's ignoring you? Hopefully
Speaker 1: he does something that involves hiding in the bushes and
Speaker 1: her driveway again and then this time just makes it
Speaker 1: into the house like a success. He takes her back. Man,
Speaker 1: after all this ship. If he doesn't, it's he's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy who has to throw good money after
Speaker 1: are bad, so he might as well. Uh no, sinlings,
Speaker 1: g low my man, Peter and this spiz eye, we're
Speaker 1: going his eye. So you don't see no value in
Speaker 1: having a wife, there's no value in having a wife.
Speaker 1: Define value. Okay, so there's a real definition of worth
Speaker 1: and value. But let me tell you my definition. So
Speaker 1: worth is personal like personal, appraisal like subjective its just
Speaker 1: me personal right, personal like like the owner and the
Speaker 1: actual product itself to worth. And then I would like
Speaker 1: to believe the value is the perception of appraisal. So
Speaker 1: worth is self and personal appraisal value is you know,
Speaker 1: the market, the market itself. Gosh, that's what I like
Speaker 1: to believe, those two words. And that's gonna be classes
Speaker 1: definition of worth and value. That's fair. When I'm asking
Speaker 1: you about worth personally, does a wife have any where?
Speaker 1: Would you appraise a wife at and having a wife
Speaker 1: from the objective market value standpoint? There? No, no, Now
Speaker 1: you've been going to a community, I'm saying you just
Speaker 1: it would have to be personally. You get you appraising
Speaker 1: having the perfect wife, not a perfect woman, but the
Speaker 1: perfect wife. You mean, the the second most perfect wife.
Speaker 1: And that's the second most perfect wife would be on
Speaker 1: the near side of the threshold of not existing at all.
Speaker 1: It's your the second most perfect wife, all right. Um, Honestly,
Speaker 1: the only worth that a wife would have to me
Speaker 1: is on occasion, like you know, if you have to
Speaker 1: be accountable to somebody else to get up and go
Speaker 1: do something you don't want to do, you're more likely
Speaker 1: to do it than if it's just about you doing
Speaker 1: it for yourself on a bad day. That yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the only value. There's no other value, So just somebody
Speaker 1: to be accountable to. Yeah, no other appraisal like you
Speaker 1: couldn't you know volume more than that, I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: know hypothetically what to pretend to value them at. As
Speaker 1: a wife, you you have no appreciation for the living. No,
Speaker 1: that's a negative, that's a that's a that's not a
Speaker 1: positive self? Why is that a negative thing to have
Speaker 1: somebody that lives in that cooks for you? Because I
Speaker 1: can't guarantee they're gonna cook something that I want all
Speaker 1: the time for one, for two, they're taking up space,
Speaker 1: they're in my ship, they're always fucking there. Just sounds awful.
Speaker 1: What if she cooked all of the things you want
Speaker 1: her to cook? What's the difference the cost benefit of
Speaker 1: the that I'd hire a cook for fox sake? Because
Speaker 1: I can cook. I can cook everything. I want to
Speaker 1: wait a minute, how much is a cook? How much
Speaker 1: is a wife? I don't know. I think a cook
Speaker 1: might be worth cost more than a wife. If you
Speaker 1: got a wife that don't work, the cook is cheaper. No,
Speaker 1: because you any adult because has to take care of himselfs.
Speaker 1: So you take care of yourself as you take care
Speaker 1: of you you pretty much you might get an excess
Speaker 1: of two thousand dollars a month, because you have to
Speaker 1: pay like as an adult, right as me and grown
Speaker 1: me in right, we pretty much take care of ourselves.
Speaker 1: So let's say at the worst case scenario, well, at
Speaker 1: the least case scenario, you're given your wife five dred
Speaker 1: dollars a week. That's what it's as seen you outside
Speaker 1: of the normal things you would have to pay for. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more fool Yes there's a couple
Speaker 1: more things, but out of the you could get a maide.
Speaker 1: Uh uh. And I'm not And I don't want to
Speaker 1: compare wife to a maid because they really are. But
Speaker 1: I don't want to disrespect the maid. Wait, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you say, because they really are. That wasn't the type
Speaker 1: of I didn't women gonna talk ship, but this is
Speaker 1: I was telling uh them girl at van length, this
Speaker 1: show at uh did you see it? It's uh higher learning?
Speaker 1: Hold up? Let me uh hold up because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: bad Rachel. I was telling Rachel she was talking about
Speaker 1: our podcast and she was talking about you. I had
Speaker 1: I had the higher learning that hasn't came out yet,
Speaker 1: and I was telling her that she was tripping off
Speaker 1: of us. And I was saying, this is honestly, what
Speaker 1: men really anything? Now you have the version of what
Speaker 1: men think, you know that's out there, like right now
Speaker 1: you have men like posturing over earth. Got his interview
Speaker 1: with UH with Noria Gonna Drink camps where they're upset
Speaker 1: because he's literally expressing how he feels slighted by his ex,
Speaker 1: you know, his ex girl and this talent he put
Speaker 1: on in the music business, right, which is Ashanti, And
Speaker 1: he's pretty much voice that you could tell his disdain
Speaker 1: for her and how he feels he's emotionally, he feels
Speaker 1: a certain way. His heart is broken. It's obvious, right,
Speaker 1: And you know you got dudes like, oh you know
Speaker 1: that was the Sucker Ship and blah blah blah and
Speaker 1: this that in the third and I'm like, look, as
Speaker 1: a I fancy myself a player, right, not a player
Speaker 1: like I have multiple girls. A player in a sense
Speaker 1: of I'm not going to always show you my emotions,
Speaker 1: but I'm not this in anybody who does this is
Speaker 1: a very unhealthy way of living that I live. It's
Speaker 1: unhealthy in the way that even in my situation, it's
Speaker 1: not like I don't deal with my feelings or internalize them.
Speaker 1: I don't externalize them. So I'm not worried if you're
Speaker 1: concern I deal with him and I read and I
Speaker 1: and I deal with him how I deal with them, right,
Speaker 1: I I contend with him and I make decisions based
Speaker 1: off how everything is coming to me. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's nothing horrible about me and who
Speaker 1: externalize their emotions, right, They're just different and internalizing his
Speaker 1: emotions after drinking on drink Champs and people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's blah blah blood and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And you could tell they were really keeping to women
Speaker 1: like they were just like trying to say what they feel.
Speaker 1: That fucking horrible bro. And it's like Ashanti wouldn't talk
Speaker 1: to a person like you, You're fucking loser. She don't
Speaker 1: want no nice That's why she's talking to fucking earth
Speaker 1: guy in the first place. Then we don't nobody respect
Speaker 1: no sucker like that. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: no nigga. So long story short, he's externalizing his emotions
Speaker 1: in his interview. But back to the our digress, Um,
Speaker 1: what I was The point I was making to you
Speaker 1: is this no ceilings is about honest conversations you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, the whole premise of no Ceilings
Speaker 1: was having these conversations about you know, we were inside
Speaker 1: of a mountain. It's about going in unlit caves from
Speaker 1: an urban perspective. And then you have like a you
Speaker 1: have such a you've been in some of these tunnels
Speaker 1: with some people that's from the community, but you still
Speaker 1: very much are you know, to some level, actually at all.
Speaker 1: You're not even a mainstream person. But that was the idea.
Speaker 1: Your your main street person who understands. That's the premise
Speaker 1: of no ceilings, these very uncomfortable conversations about life. I mean.
Speaker 1: So I was explaining that to Rachel, and I was
Speaker 1: telling her so even in this conversation, most men feel
Speaker 1: like women are living maids, living uh sex slaves, you know,
Speaker 1: living that's the concept of marriage. That's why you that's
Speaker 1: why in theory you are willing to put the old
Speaker 1: ball and chain on your ankle, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's why so many men sleep with their maids
Speaker 1: because it's a confusing dynamics. True shout out to Arnold Schwartzenegger. True.
Speaker 1: So when I'm saying I don't mean it to be insulting,
Speaker 1: women rate you. If you're listening to this podcast, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is the perspective, right. Um So, if
Speaker 1: you take care of all the bills, you take care
Speaker 1: right normally as an adult to take care of themselves.
Speaker 1: A woman. If you give your old lady five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a month, let's say, five dollars a week. She
Speaker 1: don't work, you know, I mean, but she don't have
Speaker 1: no bills, no responsibilities. To give her five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: a week, okay, and to get a maid, a chef,
Speaker 1: and a sex leave, it's going to cost you. So
Speaker 1: so you're given it a two thousand dollars a month, right,
Speaker 1: then you pay it whatever be you gotta cup with
Speaker 1: extra comes about it. It's gonna cost you more than
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars. Yeah, but you're certainly not going to
Speaker 1: get obviously you're not you're not going leading chief, and
Speaker 1: you're definitely not gonna get a sex leg. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get any of those things. It's um it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting, and and and you're compromising an awful lot.
Speaker 1: You know what do you really compromising? Opportunity? Cost is
Speaker 1: the off The book's expense. What's the opportunity other things,
Speaker 1: your time, your personal enjoyment, other women, um, peace of mind,
Speaker 1: all sorts of interesting, valuable things. But can't you work
Speaker 1: it out with a woman and have other women? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Those are usually called divorces. And that's when you pay
Speaker 1: on the back end for all that discount cooking you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying the last several years while paying for also okay,
Speaker 1: so uh okay, it's it's it's a bit of Look,
Speaker 1: it depends on the Some people really really need companionship
Speaker 1: to function, and for that it's a very there's more
Speaker 1: worth there, you know. I'm always a little bit you're
Speaker 1: a market guy. Well yeah, but like just on the
Speaker 1: on the human side, Like I think marriage is that
Speaker 1: do well you Usually it's you get married when you're
Speaker 1: young enough to not know the world outside of your marriage,
Speaker 1: or you got married we are old enough to not
Speaker 1: care about the world outside of your marriage. You know,
Speaker 1: I actually agree with the latter, And I think if
Speaker 1: you get married at thirty, when you know, when you
Speaker 1: know about I've said that, like it's tough to really
Speaker 1: be married when you know the wonders of other women.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's easier when you've never been with
Speaker 1: another woman, you know what I mean. It's easier when
Speaker 1: you never been with another woman and you don't know
Speaker 1: what you're you know, the concept of what you're missing, right,
Speaker 1: you don't know that. So marriage is easier, and it's
Speaker 1: easier when you older and you're like, you've seen it
Speaker 1: all right now, you're not seeing anything you're not gonna see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if it's like twenty two, it's a good
Speaker 1: age to get married. Forty two is a good age
Speaker 1: to get married. Thirty two it is not a good
Speaker 1: ash to get married. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if twenty two is even Asian more. I think you
Speaker 1: need to be like nineteen or twenty because I probably
Speaker 1: need to go back to that range. You need to
Speaker 1: get it done because if you it's the comparison game.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the word of women to you, the
Speaker 1: worth of a wife to you is very low, very low. Um,
Speaker 1: Where do you think wives are right now? In just
Speaker 1: value market? They're high. A lot of that has to
Speaker 1: do with perception, I mean a lot. You know, you
Speaker 1: kind of in a lot of ways. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: for example, it's it's not terribly dissimilar to you citing
Speaker 1: you know, uh gentlemen or or or other multi people
Speaker 1: that you would known in the past who thought that
Speaker 1: they were if they slept with when you slept with
Speaker 1: there on your level, there's a certain elements like if
Speaker 1: you have ambitions of being perceived in a professional circle
Speaker 1: or a social circle a certain way, your spouse can
Speaker 1: either enhance that or it can work the other way.
Speaker 1: Then it can detract from from that. So there there
Speaker 1: can be value there. Um like most presidents all pretty
Speaker 1: much all presidents have been married, right boy, Yeah, it'd
Speaker 1: be uh slim pickens to find one that hasn't been.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there has been one. Um does
Speaker 1: does Kim? And I don't want to gossip about them
Speaker 1: because do you think him brings a market share value
Speaker 1: to Kanye? Yes? Where specifically, um it bring it broadens
Speaker 1: his brands to a degree. He and and and timing
Speaker 1: and alternative considerations matter. Like before her he was with
Speaker 1: that Amber Rose girl, right, that doesn't do much for
Speaker 1: him there, it's not if you if you're going to
Speaker 1: be married, Sure, I get it. Yeah, Um, I think
Speaker 1: that like now he's kind of simultaneously gotten further into
Speaker 1: like say, more of a high fashion type of environment,
Speaker 1: whilst also pairing with the Kardashian brand, which has a
Speaker 1: footprinted in that industry. So somebody told me that now
Speaker 1: I had to explain to them they didn't have any
Speaker 1: footprint in high fashion. They're literally they literally were jokes
Speaker 1: in high fashion before Kanye, Like they didn't was funny
Speaker 1: as people when I was coming up, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean for a while. You know, Kim is not
Speaker 1: that old, but I'm saying they were jokes in the industry,
Speaker 1: like people kind of looked at them as cheap knockoffs
Speaker 1: until Kanye. Kanye brought the value of high Kanye has
Speaker 1: always been you know, smiled at in high fashion until
Speaker 1: it came to start in his own business. Once you
Speaker 1: start trying to start it, that's when we start having problems.
Speaker 1: But when he was just a fan and and a
Speaker 1: and a consumer, like he was getting invited to all
Speaker 1: of the looks, and she wasn't. I mean, she was
Speaker 1: kind of frowned upon. They looked at them as because
Speaker 1: they are like a forgive me, this is gonna sound bad.
Speaker 1: I don't mean no disrespect to your family. I'm not
Speaker 1: this and I'm saying like they were cheap, they didn't
Speaker 1: represent wealth or or like royalty. They was just like
Speaker 1: the family who got put on because their dad was
Speaker 1: like a third or fourth chair in a huge murder
Speaker 1: trial and the new husband was Olympic medalist that nobody
Speaker 1: cared about the specific sport, and your daughter slept with
Speaker 1: multiple She was popular for being what socially people were
Speaker 1: referred to kind of as promiscuous. And then the ray
Speaker 1: J take came out and that really put the blast
Speaker 1: on the Kardashian name. So they were looked at as
Speaker 1: cheap until they got with Yea, and Yea is always
Speaker 1: was considered a brilliant person within the creative spaces. So
Speaker 1: it's weird because I think they do get a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. I think as a wife, she got a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for things that just are one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventeen percent and not true. But I do agree
Speaker 1: they are mainstays in mainstream like to another level to
Speaker 1: where it's like almost unbelievable how much they are mainstays
Speaker 1: and mainstream America. So it did kind of it. We're
Speaker 1: from him just being just a rapper, you know, or
Speaker 1: a popular, you know, taste maker to some degree outside
Speaker 1: of just being a dope hip hop artist, and it
Speaker 1: kind of locked him into mainstream completely unique then where
Speaker 1: he was at initially. Yeah, and it's difficult to consider
Speaker 1: both of the two arcs of their endeavors independently once
Speaker 1: they're no longer independent, you know, like the Kardashian machine
Speaker 1: was accelerating either which way, you know, And they had
Speaker 1: the younger daughters coming out like that. There was some
Speaker 1: snowballing that was starting to happen there, and then she
Speaker 1: gets tied up with Kanye. So it's like I think
Speaker 1: before that when she first started her little show, she
Speaker 1: can't have like a little some little fragrance thing. But
Speaker 1: that was like the first deal. And then they're doing
Speaker 1: makeup and now they're doing this and it so so
Speaker 1: there's like this constant and it's and now they're showing
Speaker 1: up at all the galles. But post Kanye, um what
Speaker 1: And I have a song called Kanye should have Never
Speaker 1: Married that it's obviously people and listen to this podcast.
Speaker 1: You noticed, right, But now that they already passed that
Speaker 1: place right in, that cautionary tale has been avoided, right. Um,
Speaker 1: are you saying that there's potential for a remix. Uh,
Speaker 1: I thought about that. It is the reality, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's his family now, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: now like you've already went past it. Now this motherfucker
Speaker 1: that made a fool out of you, feel me, But
Speaker 1: she got your children, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: as a black man in America, it's really important that
Speaker 1: we are as much as possible involved in our children's
Speaker 1: life because we already got a ton of bad you know,
Speaker 1: ship going on to where if we a little bit removed,
Speaker 1: ship can just happen. I mean, they could have it
Speaker 1: funked up when we're there, but you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: way easier to get into it when we're not there.
Speaker 1: And so like he's almost out a position to where
Speaker 1: he's so deep into it where he almost has to
Speaker 1: go back with his old lady, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's a I still would say no. But because
Speaker 1: of his position and in life, he can't just see
Speaker 1: the world the way I see. He sees it in
Speaker 1: a broader spectrum honestly, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: he always has is a really talented, god really masterful,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about that, like, damn is her word to him? Like
Speaker 1: what does she bring to him? And I think what
Speaker 1: her worth is to him as a wife, right is
Speaker 1: she becomes his living mannequin, Like like Kanye's wife, you know,
Speaker 1: was his living mannequin. He could dress her up in
Speaker 1: all of his fashion design ideas, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and have a mannequin that he could show up with
Speaker 1: that he knew was everybody looked at this mannequin, I mean,
Speaker 1: and she could show up and be this living, walking,
Speaker 1: speaking mannequin that's pretty much styled and the creative you know,
Speaker 1: influence of Kanye in his full power her. So her
Speaker 1: word for him is through the roof. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: to me, That's what what's crazy is to me. More
Speaker 1: than anything, she became his living She is the most popular.
Speaker 1: Now people don't give her credit for this, and and
Speaker 1: you know even I don't at times, but really thinking
Speaker 1: about it, she's probably the the the most popular model
Speaker 1: in the in the in the world. You mean that
Speaker 1: there's there's people that just model that are popular, but
Speaker 1: she is literally the most popular, you know model in
Speaker 1: the world. So into the opera book club thing, huh,
Speaker 1: Like her name associations turned into like the Operah book
Speaker 1: Club factor. Yeah, so I get why, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, she has a huge worth for him as
Speaker 1: his wife, you know what I'm saying, because she becomes
Speaker 1: the perfect mannequin for him to create creative ideas and
Speaker 1: for people to admire. Um, her value is different. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like, this is a situation to where
Speaker 1: you know, like somebody got a car that really don't
Speaker 1: have a huge value. Like I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: thousand men around the country that would really marry Kim.
Speaker 1: I think they will, but they wouldn't be of special
Speaker 1: to her. They wouldn't be of her status like you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be people she like bringing up um,
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a tough situation. So I think
Speaker 1: this is the perfect example where somebody somebody's worth is
Speaker 1: superb as a wife, but then her value is completely different. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think for him personally, like from his actual like
Speaker 1: lifestyle worth, he's a pretty eccentric guy. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody would describe him as a as the poster boy
Speaker 1: for emotionals to be And I think that because he's
Speaker 1: like such an like eccentric, artsy minded person all the time.
Speaker 1: She probably gives him enough of something else to worry
Speaker 1: about to where he doesn't get buried into these weird
Speaker 1: mentals or emotional wormholes, so off mainstream, just wanting to
Speaker 1: not wanting to embarrass her, Yeah, or he just doesn't
Speaker 1: have the time like it. Like if it takes you
Speaker 1: three hours to like you know how, you could like
Speaker 1: like YouTube and then you watch another video that's recommended,
Speaker 1: and another one and another one, and then before you
Speaker 1: know what, you're watching some weird ship. If she interrupts
Speaker 1: him and turns off the YouTube every thirty minutes and
Speaker 1: he doesn't get that weird. And I definitely think it's
Speaker 1: funny you say that, because I definitely think he's a
Speaker 1: lot more under control for the fear of not embarrassing her,
Speaker 1: because you know, women, The one thing I realized about women,
Speaker 1: they don't want to be embarrassed. Their number one fear
Speaker 1: of all fears is being embarrassed. Yes, it's just a
Speaker 1: woman would probably rather that her husband find out she
Speaker 1: was cheating than the neighborhood. Not probably, I don't think's
Speaker 1: hear close. Probably yea. At some point it would be
Speaker 1: oh my god, Bill, you're supposed to find out. But
Speaker 1: could you do me a favorite? I'll tell anybody that's
Speaker 1: really how we go though. Bro. But but but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I realized something. Insecure women hurt themselves.
Speaker 1: Insecure men hurt other people. Mhm like So a really insecure,
Speaker 1: damaged person, a woman will hurt herself. She'll go get
Speaker 1: a BBL. She'll put these crazy pounds of makeup to
Speaker 1: miss up her skin. She'll wear these crazy shoe use
Speaker 1: and mess up her feet. Should wear these you know,
Speaker 1: uh what you call them waste trainers that messes up
Speaker 1: that part and push up all this crazy stuff to
Speaker 1: her to herself, you mean to to deny the makeup
Speaker 1: that denies her skin? Son? You know, I mean the
Speaker 1: thing that really gives it is glowing exuberance. Men when
Speaker 1: they're insecure, you know they're really you know, severely insecure
Speaker 1: or hurt, they go out and ruin everybody else. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking of myself was worse, and somebody was
Speaker 1: telling me that they felt it was worse for the man.
Speaker 1: But uh nifty quoted somebody and I forgot the person
Speaker 1: he quoted, So I'm gonna give him credit for this quote.
Speaker 1: I've heard it before, but I don't remember where it
Speaker 1: came from, so nip reminding me of it and rest
Speaker 1: rest in peace. And he is would you rather be
Speaker 1: at peace with yourself and at war with the world
Speaker 1: versus being at war with yourself and at peace with
Speaker 1: the world. And that's why I think peace within yourself
Speaker 1: is more important than peace with the world. There's a
Speaker 1: balance in real life, but if you had to choose,
Speaker 1: I think being at peace with yourself is better. Probably, yeah.
Speaker 1: I would like to submit the idea that an insecure
Speaker 1: woman hurts everybody around her inadvertently, and an insecure man
Speaker 1: hurts everybody around him advertently. It seems like women will
Speaker 1: like want to go do whatever the hell they want
Speaker 1: to do. I want, I need to go find myself
Speaker 1: or go on this journey, to go explore their being
Speaker 1: at the expense of everybody else around them, whereas a guy,
Speaker 1: I'll just be like funk everybody else around me. They're
Speaker 1: gonna feel me here and now. Oh yeah, I can
Speaker 1: feel that. But I don't know. I don't think a
Speaker 1: severely insecure woman, oh damage woman, you know mean, hurts
Speaker 1: other people around her. I think I think they're always
Speaker 1: looking to be healed they just become a lot more selfish,
Speaker 1: but even if possible. But I don't think they start
Speaker 1: off like that. I think like women, women are raised
Speaker 1: and nurtured to give, and I think the experiences on earth.
Speaker 1: I know when they little, they are man women are
Speaker 1: so when they're young and they're healthy, women are the
Speaker 1: most generous in giving people, you know, species period. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying they are. But as they go
Speaker 1: through life, things that they're taught, you feel me and experience,
Speaker 1: is that they have realized or I need to have
Speaker 1: something for myself. I don't think that's their natural nature.
Speaker 1: Here's where where I disagree. You'll know where I've said
Speaker 1: it before. But like where I think a woman will
Speaker 1: in her pursuit of her own or whatever. Let's say
Speaker 1: a married lady with If you're talking, I cannot hear you.
Speaker 1: Hell is that yours? Peter mind? The head is going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Pete microphone. But uh,
Speaker 1: the more I think about it, That's why I genuinely
Speaker 1: believe that the more I think about it, I genuinely
Speaker 1: believe that women right are you know, their nurtured, They're
Speaker 1: born as the most given species. Right there. They're they're
Speaker 1: superbly generous. I mean, even when they get you know,
Speaker 1: easy bake ovens, um, even when they get easy bake ovens,
Speaker 1: they're making stuff to give to other people. And I
Speaker 1: just think the world that that we've created at this time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I just think that turns
Speaker 1: women into these kind of monsters that we call women today.
Speaker 1: I mean that they they've become like and and that's
Speaker 1: the point. I think the male species and the female
Speaker 1: species are both parodies of themselves, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: they're both parodies of themselves. And hence the dilemma what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, hence the issues more and more, more and more,
Speaker 1: more and more. Yeah, so that's the tricky part. I
Speaker 1: think naturally they were they are the given species. Yet
Speaker 1: the world that that has been created. Every day they
Speaker 1: get older, they they they they are led to believe
Speaker 1: and emotionally, and you know, really it's a it's a
Speaker 1: travesty that they have to have something for themselves. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're a giving species that I think they're
Speaker 1: giving the way democrats are giving. They're good at giving
Speaker 1: away other people's ship. Men are producers and women are
Speaker 1: consumers from an evolutionary standpoint, and they're of it giving
Speaker 1: away stuff to people that was brought to them from
Speaker 1: a scientific measure. I can see how that's a real conversation,
Speaker 1: but it's nuanced. It's real nuance. Huh. That's a big nuance.
Speaker 1: Well because okay in theory, yeah, like right, like a
Speaker 1: husband gives a wife a seed, right, and that's really
Speaker 1: what he puts in that dirt. But that nine months
Speaker 1: of nurturing and all of that stuff to grow this
Speaker 1: tree or to to develop this plant. You know, you
Speaker 1: you yes, he in theory gave her his seat. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even talking about that. Okay, Well that's the that's
Speaker 1: the most simple that is. Yeah, that's much more biological.
Speaker 1: Um I think in general speak, dating back to the caveman,
Speaker 1: like I mean, the men would go out, like when
Speaker 1: we lived in pods or packs or whatever's human means,
Speaker 1: men will go out hunting, gathered, bring stuff back, and
Speaker 1: women would distributed among themselves and the kids or do whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, do whatever they did with it, you know,
Speaker 1: and same like now like you see like these really benevolent,
Speaker 1: generous housewives down in Newport that they'll give whoever a
Speaker 1: bunch of money, Yes, because it's some guys credit card
Speaker 1: that they stuffed. Their person said, there you go, sweetheart,
Speaker 1: so you see to give away money that was brought
Speaker 1: to you with deposit into your account because you're there.
Speaker 1: So right now, where would you appraise value women's value?
Speaker 1: You know, let's say we're comparing it to the last
Speaker 1: hundred years. Is it that the highest point their value?
Speaker 1: Or is at the lowest point their value? Their value
Speaker 1: potential is at its highest point, their value actuality um
Speaker 1: is at its lowest point. And why is it? I
Speaker 1: think because they do more to generate the value now,
Speaker 1: but it is of no worth to the men that
Speaker 1: seek them. Okay, keep going elaborate further. Well, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think a gentleman like Kevin Samuel's got
Speaker 1: pretty famous stating the obvious here earlier on his a
Speaker 1: sent to uh, you know, internet type fame. But if
Speaker 1: if a woman has some career and makes a bunch
Speaker 1: of money, most guys don't give a ship, you know,
Speaker 1: So they can invest ninety hours a week into being
Speaker 1: a corporate litigat or whatever the hell it is that
Speaker 1: they want to do. That's fine. We don't care buy
Speaker 1: and large. It's nice to have, but we'd rather have
Speaker 1: other things. M hm. So so there's a distance disassociation
Speaker 1: of um, the agendas. It's kind of like almost what
Speaker 1: they do with their looks they do with their lives. Uh,
Speaker 1: in sofar as how men value different stuff, like like
Speaker 1: the shopping mall, you know, reference they opened up a
Speaker 1: hat store and and nobody wants hats. We want shoes.
Speaker 1: But they're just gonna keep it with the fucking hats,
Speaker 1: just gonna keep going with the hats. But we don't
Speaker 1: want we we just want shoes and shirts. And how
Speaker 1: is this comparable to what women are doing? Women, they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep going with the eyelashes and the hair and
Speaker 1: the makeup and all the nails and all the ship.
Speaker 1: And we don't like those things, but they're gonna keep
Speaker 1: sucking doing it, sure ship. And it's the same as
Speaker 1: you know, well they want to go do the career
Speaker 1: thing and all this other ship and you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and then bitch about why they're not married at forty. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, keep doing that stuff. We don't want that.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep it with the hats, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep wanting the shoes and shirts. Shit, we gotta get
Speaker 1: the right personal here to talk to you about this,
Speaker 1: because I get the I can't even necessarily disagree. Wives
Speaker 1: are definitely focusing on things that husbands have no value
Speaker 1: for it, nor do they gear. Yeah, it's almost like
Speaker 1: women are are working to be as you know, like
Speaker 1: the independent woman. Well, if you want to be an
Speaker 1: independent woman, don't bitch about not having a man, because
Speaker 1: that's what you wanted. You want it to be independent
Speaker 1: of having a man in your life. Now you don't
Speaker 1: have a man in your life. And no, But is
Speaker 1: that is that what they mean when they say independent?
Speaker 1: I think they meant to say that they were so sufficient. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what does that really mean? That's the that's the
Speaker 1: principle of unintended consequences that they don't tend to grasp
Speaker 1: very well. Fair, Fair, you're using words that really mean
Speaker 1: a lot more than what you mean by them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a superficial, simple, basic cause and effect, but there's
Speaker 1: also a deeper, multifaceted cause and effect that they are
Speaker 1: just like fucking the human that that. I always say
Speaker 1: that certain things we we conjure up certain ideas with
Speaker 1: using certain words and don't realize that these words all
Speaker 1: have power. The word loyalty, that's a short sighted word
Speaker 1: that's used today. Uh. Generational wealth is a short sighted
Speaker 1: word used to that most people that create generational wealth
Speaker 1: they pretty much don't care about nothing because they're so
Speaker 1: focused on just earning and creating as whatever you know
Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah, they're not focusing on generational wealth. You Typically,
Speaker 1: they're focusing on something that they really really like are
Speaker 1: invested in, and it's just yielding wealth. Um. So now
Speaker 1: that we've talked about the like like that, do you
Speaker 1: think like, like, let's let's not even say me or
Speaker 1: you or Kanye. Let's say jay Z and Beyonce. This
Speaker 1: Beyonce bring a value to Jake, I actually brings a
Speaker 1: nor misvalue j I think. I think she is certainly
Speaker 1: the more valuable asset in that pair. Who is deep deep? Um?
Speaker 1: I think one thing like like in looking back at
Speaker 1: the only because I just saw the picture, I didn't
Speaker 1: even realize that they dated, but there was like a
Speaker 1: picture circulating around Instagram mterday of like Dame dash and
Speaker 1: Aliah going to some movie premiere at workshop or something
Speaker 1: like that. That kind of sort of describes the difference
Speaker 1: between those two guys, is the dinner between Elia and
Speaker 1: Beyonce at least great. I'm huge fan vers, but Beyonce's
Speaker 1: like significant, she's she's a monster child. Yeah and some degree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that Jay is more content to build
Speaker 1: off the people around him, and Dames seems like the
Speaker 1: kind of guy who wants the people around him to
Speaker 1: build off of him. M hmm, it's not crazy's how
Speaker 1: it played out in retrospect, it seems, man, that's deep.
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure Dame here that so we can
Speaker 1: call me a moron on a much. I don't think
Speaker 1: he would really disagree like that. And and that is
Speaker 1: kind of an issue, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you have to find a perfect space, like I would
Speaker 1: advise to most women and wives, like you have to
Speaker 1: find a much better space of how to allow people
Speaker 1: to use you and then't know when you've been used up.
Speaker 1: That's the hardest part of human beings to know when
Speaker 1: they've been used up. Yeah. And I think also part
Speaker 1: of it is people wanna they have a certain relationship
Speaker 1: with pride and credit, like meaning getting credit for a thing,
Speaker 1: not like debt potential were Like some people are like
Speaker 1: if I if I'm not if this thing doesn't have
Speaker 1: my name written all over it as the guy who
Speaker 1: invented it, produced it, created and distributed it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to ride on somebody else's coattails, you know. I
Speaker 1: don't want to collapse too much. Some people want it
Speaker 1: to be three sixty them. Some people are like, look,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Whatever gives me the most money. You
Speaker 1: can sign my namesake away all day long. Yeah it's
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Yeah. Um. If there was any woman, I
Speaker 1: ain't maash you just because you don't give a funk.
Speaker 1: I gotta find the right woman to talk to you. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's the greatest? What's the greatest popular? You know, if
Speaker 1: anybody listening, because the people that listen to my podcast,
Speaker 1: most likely they're not really that mainstream. I mean, what's
Speaker 1: but but they are aware of the mainstream they live
Speaker 1: their life. If there was the greatest, if there's a
Speaker 1: greatest situation to where a wife bringing entirely too much
Speaker 1: value to her husband right in the public, main state
Speaker 1: that everybody would know about, which one would it be?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. My initial thought would be I
Speaker 1: gravitated out of the gate to Lucille Ball and Desi
Speaker 1: ar Nest. But I think Desi was like the production
Speaker 1: brilliance behind that show and she was the talent, so
Speaker 1: it kind of worked well. So I'm gonna throw a
Speaker 1: curve ball out there, and I'm gonna say Michelle Obama
Speaker 1: any way more for her on the on the value scale, Yep,
Speaker 1: that's deep, if elaborate. Give me why, um, she gave
Speaker 1: him a lot of the connections in the Chicago that
Speaker 1: made him viable m hm. And otherwise, like by his
Speaker 1: own admission, he's kind of a like lazy hack of
Speaker 1: a guy with a great resume, you know, which I
Speaker 1: don't know how the hell even got. But additionally, I
Speaker 1: believe he ran for office kind of earlier in his
Speaker 1: career and got like blown out in a primary by
Speaker 1: another like local Chicago black politician because he like wasn't
Speaker 1: black or Chicago enough. And Michelle solved that problem for him.
Speaker 1: He couldn't have solved that problem for himself. That's actually
Speaker 1: I get it. She did. Oh that's fair to say
Speaker 1: she did. And it's weird because you're a white person
Speaker 1: had noticed that. But she did bring she does bring
Speaker 1: a lot more blackness to him than we ever give her.
Speaker 1: Creat Like we we because as a kid who grew
Speaker 1: up in the Yi and all these different places, for sure,
Speaker 1: he probably wasn't the token. And he's not even like
Speaker 1: culturally speaking, his dad's not from Houston. His dad's from Kenya,
Speaker 1: the real the real Africa. Yeah, so he's not lack
Speaker 1: American culture. He didn't go to the the coolness that
Speaker 1: he presents. There's a lot more Michelle Obama's influence. That's
Speaker 1: actually not crazy. You know what's funny? Guy actually can
Speaker 1: see how that that's the thought. I mean, I couldn't verify,
Speaker 1: but that's deep she is. That's the sister for real too.
Speaker 1: So yeah yeah, okay, and and and she's smart, and
Speaker 1: she's a fucking beast like and talk about like to
Speaker 1: go to the original point like earlier accountable to somebody else.
Speaker 1: If he's a lazy guy who wants to like pontificate
Speaker 1: and smoke weed m and she's like, no, you need
Speaker 1: to go do this today. He's gonna go do that
Speaker 1: today when she gets in his ass. Okay, So what's
Speaker 1: the exact opposite somebody who overvalues their wife man um
Speaker 1: that's probably the default setting, but at at the highest
Speaker 1: main stay managed team level, it's hard to say, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess in that because I want to say, like,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know who the wife is, but oh, it
Speaker 1: would have to be a situation where a wife got
Speaker 1: a claim purely by virtue of her marriage, just just
Speaker 1: like used a husband to catapult into becoming somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Hillary Clinton would have been a back
Speaker 1: room paper pushing lawyer without Bill mm hm. He had
Speaker 1: all the political no how all the charisma, all the connections,
Speaker 1: all the everything. She went out of law school and
Speaker 1: was like defending. She was like a criminal defense attorney
Speaker 1: or something like that. She would stay doing that. And
Speaker 1: she's the type of person who doesn't even play well
Speaker 1: to a jury. She wouldn't even be like a courtroom
Speaker 1: Robert Shapiro, Johnny Cochrane type of guy. She'd be the
Speaker 1: guy who she'd be like finding nuanced you know, corporate
Speaker 1: law to get Bank of America out of trouble with
Speaker 1: the I R S. She says, no personality. Um, that's
Speaker 1: probably that's a fairly hot take. But I mean, for
Speaker 1: God's sake, I mean, Donald Donald Trump didn't even have
Speaker 1: support in I mean, he won because of an absolute
Speaker 1: lack of interest in Hillary Clinton. It was like the
Speaker 1: US voter turnout combination election like ever relative to the
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