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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: Joined now by someone who is also a South Floridian.

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Speaker 3: He is Congressman Byron Donalds from the Great State of Florida.

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Speaker 3: And you're jealous because I'm in a T shirt and shorts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm jealous. That's hot. Missing many suits her when

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Speaker 4: something serious is happening. Unfortunately in Washington, we're not doing

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Speaker 4: very serious things right now.

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Speaker 3: And you and Buck are both now South Floridians. I

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Speaker 3: was asking you, because you also grew up in New York,

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Speaker 3: when did you become aware that there was better weather

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Speaker 3: than where you lived in New York. So, my wife's

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Speaker 3: from Michigan. We were talking off the air, and she

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Speaker 3: was like, until she came to the South, she had

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Speaker 3: no idea that there was places where it wasn't gray

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Speaker 3: for months at a time. When did you When were

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Speaker 3: you like, man, this Florida's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it was my first winter in college because when

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Speaker 4: I got to Tallahassee it was still August, it was

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Speaker 4: nasty hot. I was like, okay, well, it's superhuman here,

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Speaker 4: superhuman in New York. It's not really much difference. It's

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Speaker 4: just a little bit hotter here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then those winter months came, November came, and it's

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Speaker 4: in Tallahassee. Tallahassee gets gets cold, yeah, but not like

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Speaker 4: New York. And I was just like, oh this is

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Speaker 4: this isn't too bad. Then when I moved to Naples,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, shoot, these snowbirds have this thing

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Speaker 4: completely right. You just change your change your time period

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Speaker 4: up north, down south, split the year and you'll be

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Speaker 4: good because the weather in Naples is beautiful from about

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Speaker 4: November through March. It's just flat, gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: Tallahassee is the Albany of North Florida for those who

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Speaker 5: do know, So it's, you know, quite a place. I've

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Speaker 5: actually spent some time there. My in laws live there.

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Speaker 5: Congress spirits, so I never thought.

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Speaker 4: About it that way. But you are correct. That is

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Speaker 4: exactly right. Thank you that you are exactly right. So,

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Speaker 4: speaking of Florida stuff, want to get in the national scene.

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Speaker 4: Trump the elections obviously all that too. I hear from

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Speaker 4: some people who know some things that well, there's a

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Speaker 4: couple of jobs you might be up in the running four.

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Speaker 4: But at some point in the future, would you be

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Speaker 4: interested in being governor of this great state of Florida.

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Speaker 4: I would. I would, but a lot of time between

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Speaker 4: now and then. Look, everybody knows, you know, Governor Desantus

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Speaker 4: he's terming out, and so it's going to be I think,

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Speaker 4: a free for all for who's going to replace him.

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Speaker 4: A lot of good people on that list, but you know,

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Speaker 4: the voters will decide how that's going to go. I

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Speaker 4: actually don't think it's going to be that big of

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Speaker 4: a race, honestly, and so I probably all the press

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Speaker 4: people in Florida are like, oh, shoot, did you hear

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Speaker 4: what he says? You don't think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: big feel I just think that in governor's races, it's

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Speaker 4: it's different than if you're dealing with a congressional race

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Speaker 4: or a state house race or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Because it takes so much resources to jump in compare

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Speaker 3: the resources.

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Speaker 4: It's big. It's really it's big money, man. I think

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Speaker 4: you're talking fifteen thirty five million dollars or more. And

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Speaker 4: then you know at that level, people pretty much are

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Speaker 4: and so it's hard to cut through. So I think

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Speaker 4: I don't really think it's going to be a big,

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Speaker 4: big field, but I think it's gonna be real competition.

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Speaker 3: Well, Buck mentioned a couple potentially governor is up in

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Speaker 3: twenty six. You're also on the Trump VP list. Yea,

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Speaker 3: what has that been like? Because you're around Bucking Mind's age,

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Speaker 3: you're a guy in your early forties. Is that a

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Speaker 3: crazy process to go through the vice presidential I don't

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Speaker 3: even know what forms you fill out. I mean I

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Speaker 3: haven't filled out a form since FAFSA. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Like what is that process like?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I'm not going to get into particulars,

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Speaker 4: but I will tell you that it's you have no control.

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Speaker 4: You basically are just, you know, doing whatever you've been

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Speaker 4: president President Trump to basically say, you know what, this

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Speaker 4: on that person. So the way I approach it is,

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Speaker 4: I just do what I've been doing. I don't really

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Speaker 4: think much about it. I let everybody else talk about it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've never really been a never been a

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Speaker 4: surrogate for a campaign before. That's really interesting. And so

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Speaker 4: I just said, you know what, I'm gonna just work

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Speaker 3: And what is that like For people who don't know

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Speaker 3: what a surrogate for a campaign is, what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: You're doing well?

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Speaker 4: That is like, you know, the campaign will make requests

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Speaker 4: for you to do different new stations or new segments,

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Speaker 4: and so you really just make yourself available to do that.

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Speaker 4: You know, the campaign will send talking points that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff. I pretty much do what I want though,

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Speaker 4: so you know, it's it's cool, but I mean, listen,

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Speaker 4: I asked a couple of them. I'm like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just out here just kind of free wheel and

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Speaker 4: doing what I want. Are you guys? Okay? They're like,

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Speaker 4: oh no, no, keep going like you're good.

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Speaker 5: So we're speaking to Congress and Byron Donald's from Florida,

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Speaker 5: and as you see all this stuff, Congressman going on

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Speaker 5: the it's amazing. We're in an election cycle and we're

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Speaker 5: pretty deep into it. You know, we've got the presidential

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Speaker 5: debate just a.

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Speaker 2: Few weeks away.

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Speaker 5: We've got multiple cases still pending against Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 5: is the de facto GOP nominee. But it seems like,

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Speaker 5: you know, we just talked to Senator Hagrity about this.

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Speaker 5: None of this legal stuff really seems to be having

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Speaker 5: the impact so far that certainly I think the Democrats

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Speaker 5: thought it would. Do you do you see any of

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Speaker 5: that changing or at the end of the day, anybody

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Speaker 5: who's still thinking about this, say, in September October, is

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Speaker 5: it going to be you know, the economy, border crime,

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Speaker 5: the you know, those kitchen table issues that we always

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's really gonna matter at all. And

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Speaker 4: I think the reason why it's not going to matter

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Speaker 4: is because the Democrats and the media, I mean they're

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Speaker 4: one and the same. They have been pushing this narrative

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Speaker 4: for a year and a half against you know, the

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Speaker 4: most defined human being on the planet, like it's Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump is universally defined. You know who he is, you

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Speaker 4: know what he is, you know what he's not. And

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Speaker 4: so they've been pushing this constant narrative even if you

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Speaker 4: Russian agent or oh no, he's corrupt, or oh no,

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Speaker 4: he's impeded. All this craziness there's always been this media driven,

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Speaker 4: it like, oh, well, it's just one more thing to them,

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Speaker 4: because it's really all become white noise at this point,

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Speaker 4: and so people are seeing through it. It's not even

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Speaker 4: something that bothers them anymore. And then the people who

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Speaker 4: actually dig into this stuff realize it's just political and

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Speaker 4: it's just persecution and anything that sucks, anything is discussing.

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Speaker 4: And I think that goes to the two hundred million

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Speaker 4: dollars that he raised right after the verdict in Lower

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Speaker 4: Manhattan because people, no, it's bs and so it's not

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Speaker 4: going to matter, it's not going to play in. And

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Speaker 4: then when you add in Joe Biden, you know, I

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Speaker 4: call him the Master of Disaster. That's who he is.

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Speaker 4: The thing just his presidency has been awful, and you

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Speaker 4: look at the outcomes of his presidency, people already upset,

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Speaker 4: and then they see that they just still can't get

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. You know, they just can't get away from him.

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Speaker 4: They have Trump Derangement syndrome. And I think people are

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Speaker 4: going to largely ignore the cases.

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Speaker 5: So speaking for my colleague here or on an issue

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Speaker 5: that he brings up, pretty regularly. Congressman Clay has thought

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Speaker 5: for some time or has pointed to the polls which

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Speaker 5: we agree show this. But there's a possibility that Trump

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Speaker 5: may outperform with young black male voters in this election.

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Speaker 3: We actually have a steak bet on this, so you know,

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Speaker 3: we got a bunch of steak bets. So I'm curious

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Speaker 3: how you would break this down. But yes, well, first

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Speaker 3: of all, what kind of stick are we talking about? Oh,

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Speaker 3: the highest in steak you can find? Oh, yes, how

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Speaker 3: can I get Can I get him on this action?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? So it depends on what your answer.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to come whichever, clear that with ethics first, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: get back to you.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So the question Buck's asking because I think you're going

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Speaker 3: to be on his side on one of these, because

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Speaker 3: we were talking about off air.

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Speaker 2: But let's start with this one.

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Speaker 3: I think that there are going to be a lot

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Speaker 3: of black men in particular who are open to voting

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Speaker 3: Trump that haven't been in the past. And our bet

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Speaker 3: is I think twenty five percent of black men voters

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Speaker 3: are going to support Donald Trump overall overall twenty he says,

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent in this election.

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Speaker 5: I say, I would love it congressman. But I do

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Speaker 5: not see that happening.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I see that happening. I'm with Yeah, I'm with

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Speaker 4: you on that one. Clay, he's with you on Clay.

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Speaker 4: So let me explain a couple of two things, really

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Speaker 4: two simple things. First, Biden's been Biden has put sirian

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Speaker 4: Is pressure and pain on the pocket of a man. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: everything's more expensive. I'm not making enough money to catch up.

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Speaker 4: I was doing much better when Trump Trump was in

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Speaker 4: office than I am with Biden. That The MSNBC did

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Speaker 4: it a couple of months ago, that barbershop talk, and

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Speaker 4: the guys were like, man, we've only known two presidents

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Speaker 4: and he's been better. Yeah, that's a real thing. Like

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Speaker 4: it's real, it's not. It's not a mirage. It's not

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Speaker 4: just something that popped up in Poland. Second thing is

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Speaker 4: this gender fluidity mess that the Dems constantly push Black

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Speaker 4: men in our country. Ain't for that. They're just not

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Speaker 4: for that. They want their sons to be sons. They

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Speaker 4: all of that stuff. They respect, they respect people who

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Speaker 4: with this whole puberty blocker. Yep, you're not gonna tell

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Speaker 4: me what my child is saying in school mess They

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Speaker 2: Girls having to compete against dudes pretending to be.

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Speaker 4: Really not for that. And so those are the two

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Speaker 4: things while you're seeing that shift. Immigration is now popped

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Speaker 4: I'm doing everything I can to build myself, and then

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Speaker 4: you're gonna let people just come in by the millions

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Speaker 4: them either. And the immigration piece is what's starting to

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Speaker 4: have some black women say wait a minute. So it's

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Speaker 4: a real thing. You know, my friend Wesley Hunt and

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Speaker 4: who's on Capitol Hill with me out of Texas. Wesley

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Speaker 4: and I talk about this. I got that that mess

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Speaker 4: in Philadelphia where the Democrats or gaslight in the line

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Speaker 4: about me. It's all Wesley's fault. I'm gonna blame Wesley

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Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely over because the key states are effectively

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Speaker 5: Overall is demographic, all black voters and then white working

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Speaker 4: At fifteen percent of the overall Black vote. It's it's

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Speaker 4: If you could do that, that's when you start talking

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Speaker 5: Well, Congress bron Donald, appreciate you being with us. And

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Speaker 5: if you and Clay go out for drinks, please keep

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Speaker 5: him out of trouble. And I'm sorry you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: And by the way, to give Buck credit, you don't

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think they're gonna jop thro. I don't

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Speaker 4: think Joe stands.

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Speaker 4: All I'll say is, and I know you guys gotta

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Speaker 4: Is that nobody else has his level of name id. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so now you got to explain a whole new person

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Speaker 4: They already have voter apathy problems today. I think he stays.

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Speaker 5: thanks for being with us. Appreciate you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Guys you're listening to twenty four year of Impact with

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Speaker 5: Joining Clay in studio in DC is Senator Haggarty of

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Speaker 5: the Great States of Tennessee. Senator, appreciate you coming and

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Speaker 5: hang out. Sorry, Clay couldn't put a tie on for you,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to avoid all ties. But we were talking

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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm in a T shirt and shorts.

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Speaker 3: We've been running around.

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Speaker 2: It's warm.

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Speaker 3: It's nice following his father's footsteps too. That goes back

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Speaker 6: We're going to start with that question first and we'll

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Speaker 6: Well, Buck, you hit the nail on the head. I

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Speaker 6: worked on putting a lot of strong conservative judges into

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Speaker 6: the judiciary, and Chuck Schumer learned from that playbook. They're

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Speaker 6: doing the same thing. I think it will continue to

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Speaker 6: be a key element of strategy. Depending on which party

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Speaker 6: controls the Senate, they will work. They'll be focused on

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Speaker 6: that very much.

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Speaker 3: You have a great relationship with Donald Trump. You served

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Speaker 3: in the administration. I've been around you and President Trump.

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Speaker 3: He is incredibly complimentary of you. I saw in the

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Speaker 3: New York Times. Granted, we know that the New York

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Speaker 3: Times doesn't always have things one hundred percent right y

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Speaker 3: that's often the case.

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Speaker 2: I saw that you.

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Speaker 3: Are a vice presidential candidate according to the New York Times.

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Speaker 3: It would not surprise me at all based on what

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Speaker 3: I have seen Trump say about you and the relationship.

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Speaker 3: Have you talked about the vice presidency at all? Would

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Speaker 3: that be something that you were interested in? If Trump

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Speaker 3: came to you and said, as I know he does,

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Speaker 3: I really trust your opinion. I think you could help

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Speaker 3: us get over the finish line. What kind of conversations

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Speaker 3: have there been.

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Speaker 6: Here's what I want to say, first and foremost. The

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Speaker 6: most critical thing for this nation right now is that

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump win in November. And the last thing he

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Speaker 6: needs is a sideshow, you know, a bunch of folks

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Speaker 6: auditioning for a job. He needs to be able to

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Speaker 6: focus entirely on getting elected, and whatever will help him

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Speaker 6: in terms of the VP pick will increase his chances

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Speaker 6: in odds the greatest of winning that election. That's the

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Speaker 6: outcome I want. In terms of the vice presidential elections.

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Speaker 6: It's certainly a compliment to find your name on these lists,

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Speaker 6: but I can tell you I've no intention of engaging

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Speaker 6: in speculation. I'll let the speculators do that. My job

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Speaker 6: has been is going to continue to be to carry

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Speaker 6: on the momentum. I'm the only member of his administration

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Speaker 6: that's in the United States Senate. I have been advocating

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Speaker 6: from day one of arriving there for the policies that

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Speaker 6: President Trump so successfully implemented and had on the books

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Speaker 6: to move forward. So President Trump knows he's got a

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Speaker 6: very strong ally on me in any capacity, and right

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Speaker 6: now my focus is making certain that we are going

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Speaker 6: to be ready on day one in the United States

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Speaker 6: Senate to incorporate and deliver on the types of policy

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Speaker 6: changes that are absolutely necessary to get our economy back,

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Speaker 6: to get our national security back, to rebuild our military,

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Speaker 6: and again have foreign relations that actually advantage America rather

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Speaker 6: than every one of our adversaries. I was asking the

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Speaker 6: President literally just yesterday, who has won under Donald I mean,

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Speaker 6: under Joe Biden's policies ends down winner every time you

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Speaker 6: ask the question is generally China, and the next best

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Speaker 6: you know, the next best off tend to be Iran, Russia,

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Speaker 6: and all of our adversaries combined. Those are the biggest

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Speaker 6: winners under Joe Biden's policy, whether it's the war he's

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Speaker 6: waged on domestic energy that essentially has allowed energy prices

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Speaker 6: to go up around the world and allowed us to

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Speaker 6: inadvertently fund Russia's war on Ukraine, their refusal to impose

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Speaker 6: or I should say, enforce, the sanctions that are on Iran.

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Speaker 6: I work very hard to get those sanctions in place.

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Speaker 6: When I served in the Trump administration, they immediately stopped

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Speaker 6: and forcing them, and we saw Iran's reserves go from

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Speaker 6: single digit billions all the way up to triple digit

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Speaker 6: billions under Joe Biden. They've used those funds to basically

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Speaker 6: dismantle peace in the Middle East. They funded Hamas, they

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Speaker 6: fund hesblah, They're funding the hoodies right now, shutting down

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Speaker 6: the Red Sea, now everything, every place you look. We

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Speaker 6: have disasters that benefit our adversaries. Those are the only

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Speaker 6: winder winners under the Biden administration's policies, our adversaries.

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Speaker 5: Senator Haggerty, appreciate you being with us. Cool for Clay

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Speaker 5: to get to hang out with you, the person there.

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Speaker 5: I'll come to DC next time around.

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Speaker 4: So thank you.

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Speaker 2: It great to be with this. Thanks so much, Thanks,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the most important tier in

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Speaker 1: politics with Clay Travis en buck Sexton.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump making his triumphant return, probably the best return

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Speaker 5: ever to Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 5: He met with House and Senate Republicans. So this is

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Speaker 5: the first time he has been at our at the

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Speaker 5: Capitol I should say since January sixth of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: So there's some some symbolism here. Trump is meeting with,

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Speaker 5: like I said, GOP legislators and he a packed room

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Speaker 5: of House Republicans saying happy Birthday to Trump. In the

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Speaker 5: private breakfast meeting at you wait, is it his birthday?

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Speaker 5: This is from PBS. Is it Trump's birthday today?

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Speaker 2: It's close to it.

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Speaker 3: I know because he said it at rally recently that

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Speaker 3: at some point you get to an age where you'd

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Speaker 3: prefer that they did it have to sing happy.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's tomorrow, So that that's close enough that they're

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Speaker 5: singing for I figured, happy birthday. That's from probably the

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Speaker 5: best birthday. Here he is speaking at the Capitol today.

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Speaker 5: This is cut twenty seven talking about the GOP.

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Speaker 7: We have great unity, we have great common sense, a

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Speaker 7: lot of very smart people in this room, and a

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Speaker 7: lot of people that.

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Speaker 4: Love our country.

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Speaker 7: They love our country beyond just about all else, and

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Speaker 7: the only thing that maybe supersedes it is their family

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Speaker 7: and maybe their faith in certain instances, and that's very nice.

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Speaker 7: But they want this country to be great again, and

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Speaker 7: we're going to make it great again. And so I

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Speaker 7: just want to thank the Republican Senate, and I want

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Speaker 7: to thank also the House. We met, as you know,

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Speaker 7: with the full house Republican House today and we had

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Speaker 7: a tremendous meeting with them also, and there's great unity

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Speaker 7: a very similar and there's one thing in common. We

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Speaker 7: want to make America great again. We want to make

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Speaker 7: our country great again. We're a nation that's in decline.

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Speaker 7: We're declining nation. We're nation that is being left at

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Speaker 7: all over the world. We have a leader that's being

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Speaker 7: left at all over the world.

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Speaker 5: If he could make America great again, it would be

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Speaker 5: very nice.

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Speaker 3: I agree, it is pretty remarkable. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 3: latest numbers. Yesterday evening buck Pole came out of Maine

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Speaker 3: which showed Trump is basically dead even in Maine. He

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Speaker 3: lost the state of Maine by nine points or so.

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Speaker 3: Polls out from Virginia showing dead even He lost Virginia

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Speaker 3: by ten. Right now, there is not a single state

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Speaker 3: that Trump won in twenty twenty that Biden looks like

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Speaker 3: he's going to be able to flip in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Closest one that Trump won is North Carolina. But Trump

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Speaker 3: has been up big in North carolinn of throughout, So

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Speaker 3: we're fighting the battle on Biden terrain right now. I

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Speaker 3: got nervous about this.

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Speaker 5: I got to ask, you know, okay, so you know

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Speaker 5: when someone comes to me and they say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: will you uh are you interested in investing in the

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Speaker 5: following thing that I'm doing right, which happens to me

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Speaker 5: a little bit these days, probably happens to you a lot.

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Speaker 5: One of the things I always like to ask is

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Speaker 5: what are the things that could happen that make this

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Speaker 5: thing go bad such that you and I have to

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Speaker 5: have the this didn't work, I lost all of your

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Speaker 5: money conversation, Yes, and I will never accept there's nothing,

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Speaker 5: because of course there's something. Right of time, there has

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Speaker 5: to be otherwise there's no risk involved. So what are

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Speaker 5: the risks? Effectively? You tend to view the polling and

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Speaker 5: I think just your mindset about things Trump related at

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Speaker 5: this point, you have optimism.

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Speaker 2: I know you're not to.

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Speaker 3: Be fair to you because this is a criticism of

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Speaker 3: my wife. For me, I view all of life in

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Speaker 3: a very optimsy mystic prism. So to your point on investing,

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Speaker 3: on starting new companies, on all sorts of things, and

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Speaker 3: you experienced this sum with Crockett Coffee like I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's not that I don't know that there are downsides,

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Speaker 3: it's just I think I work through them. But I

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Speaker 3: tend to be on the optimistic side of life, So

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Speaker 3: that's not just on the elections.

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Speaker 5: But yes, yes, no, so this is this is your way,

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Speaker 5: I think because the CIA got deep in my brain.

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Speaker 4: The CIA.

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Speaker 5: You're basically just always figuring out like how is this

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Speaker 5: going to go totally foobar and be on the front

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Speaker 5: page of the Washington Post?

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Speaker 2: Like that's that's the thinking at the sion.

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Speaker 3: This is My wife would say that I that she's

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Speaker 3: not pessimistic, that she's just realistic. And I'm always optimistic.

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Speaker 3: So we have this conversation regularly.

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Speaker 5: So how do you see things go bad and Biden wins?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 6: What? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Because because right now I can't trust that Trump is

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Speaker 5: winning in every swing state and he's ahead even in

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Speaker 5: some previously sort of blue purple states and you mentioned

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Speaker 5: made I can't trust it because I don't want to

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Speaker 5: go through that, you know that, just kicking the face

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Speaker 5: of oh my gosh, we didn't see this coming on

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Speaker 5: election day. You've got to be kidding me. What worries you?

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Speaker 5: What could change this around in your mind? Since you

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Speaker 5: tend to view this very optimistically.

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Speaker 3: What worries me is I think Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania

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Speaker 3: are all going to go the same way. As they

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Speaker 3: did in twenty sixteen and as they did in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: And I think Biden could pull the sort of the

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Speaker 3: card that he needs. If you're a poker player, you

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Speaker 3: don't have a great hand and you're losing, but you

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Speaker 3: get the exact right hand. I think the math of

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Speaker 3: Biden winning two seventy to two sixty eight is very real. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would mean Trump flips Georgia, Trump flips Arizona, and

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Speaker 3: Trump flips Nevada, but he loses those big ten states

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Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and.

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Speaker 2: In Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: If you told me right now, Trump is gonna win

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Speaker 3: one of those three states, if you guaranteed it to me,

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Speaker 3: I would say Trump is one hundred percent going to

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Speaker 3: be the next president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: But if you.

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Speaker 3: Told me Biden is gonna win Pennsylvania, I would think

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Speaker 3: to myself, Biden may get that narrow win that he

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Speaker 3: needs and he could be president two seventy to two

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Speaker 3: sixty eight. That's what worries me.

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Speaker 5: And let's be honest, it would be somewhat similar to Trump.

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Speaker 2: Trump.

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Speaker 5: Trump ran the obstacle course in twenty sixteen perfectly. He

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Speaker 5: didn't blow out Hillary as we know, in terms of

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Speaker 5: the popular vote, that's not the contest you run. But

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Speaker 5: Hillary was millions ahead, but he ran the obstacle course

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Speaker 5: perfectly right. He did exactly what he needed to win

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Speaker 5: that game. And you're what you're saying is effectively Biden

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Speaker 5: Trump Right now, Trump is the one his way ahead,

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Speaker 5: but Biden might be able to just squeak it out

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Speaker 5: in just the states, all right, By the way, I

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Speaker 5: co signed that. I do think that that's the risk

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Speaker 5: here as well, is that all the noise and all

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Speaker 5: the all the debates and the trials and everything else,

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Speaker 5: who has better ground game in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Democrats

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Speaker 5: are Republicans who micro targets, who early votes, who ballot harvest,

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Speaker 5: who does those things better in those places? Who plays

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Speaker 5: dirty tricks and runs just the most bs ads imaginable

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Speaker 5: in key markets at the last second, And we'll just

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Speaker 5: say anything. I think that that could be how this

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Speaker 5: goes bad for Trump.

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Speaker 2: That's why I.

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Speaker 3: Loved having Senator Haggerty on yesterday because and I think

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Speaker 3: he said this on the air, but he would not

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Speaker 3: mind if I said it. As soon as the results

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Speaker 3: came in on twenty twenty two, I was on the

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Speaker 3: phone with him. He is a data guy, and he

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Speaker 3: worked his ass off on twenty twenty two senator from Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: traveling all over the country trying to get a Senate majority,

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Speaker 3: just fighting battles everywhere, and he's you know, some people

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Speaker 3: get upset. I like data guys because they say okay,

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Speaker 3: and gals, they say, okay, we lost. What did we

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Speaker 3: do wrong? What could we do better? Instead of pouting,

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Speaker 3: Let's go into the data. It's like, if you're a

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Speaker 3: sports person, you'll lose a game, you have to go

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Speaker 3: back and look at the film.

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Speaker 2: What did we not execute on?

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Speaker 3: Don't focus on what people did to you as much

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Speaker 3: as focus on what you can control. That's the way

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Speaker 3: I try to try to live my life is hey,

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Speaker 3: what can I control? He went back and looked at

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Speaker 3: the data, and he said, they got a better mousetrap

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Speaker 3: than we do. They are better at delivering their voters.

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Speaker 3: So we can either sit around and complain, or we

677
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Speaker 3: can try to rebuild our game plan using what they did.

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Speaker 5: A perfect example of this. You know, Katie Hobbs versus

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Speaker 5: Carrie Lake for Governor of Arizona. Carrie Lake is I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know some.

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Speaker 2: People are very telegenic. Literally a television star in Arizona.

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Speaker 5: She's just very very media savvy, gets a good presence

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Speaker 5: on TV, compelling speaker. You know, whether you like her

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Speaker 5: policies or not, just put aside. If we're just looking

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Speaker 5: at this like tail of the tape, like two Boxers,

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Speaker 5: it's got all this very telegenic media percent everything else.

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Speaker 5: Katie Hobbs, I can't even I don't even know what

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Speaker 5: she looks like now, like I have to sort of

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Speaker 5: think about it. I'm like, I think she kind of

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Speaker 5: wears glasses, a little gray hair to her shoulders. I

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Speaker 5: don't even really know what she looks like because she

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Speaker 5: didn't care. She didn't show up to debate, she didn't

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Speaker 5: try to get on national TV. She just knew how

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Speaker 5: to get the votes she needed in Arizona to win,

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Speaker 5: and she knew it before she got them, that that's

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Speaker 5: what's going to happen. She was like, yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 5: even worried about this, sorry, and ran almost like a

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Speaker 5: campaign on autopie. And that's what you know. Now she's

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Speaker 5: the governor of Arizona. That is the Democrat way of

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Speaker 5: warfare and politics. Now it's not stirring speeches and great ideas.

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Speaker 5: It's community organizers mobilizing the street mob on the day

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Speaker 5: they need them or in the weeks they need them

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Speaker 5: of early voting to just squeak out the wins, and

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Speaker 5: that's all they care about.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things in politics is applying

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Speaker 3: a analytics term from sports. Really baseball win over replacement value.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of you guys out there in finance

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Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about because you try to analyze companies.

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Speaker 3: But basically, the way to think about it is how

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Speaker 3: much is the best shortstop in Major League Baseball worth

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Speaker 3: to your team versus a generic average guy in that position.

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Speaker 3: And you can do it everywhere you sell cars. You

713
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Speaker 3: can be like, hey, what's the value of the best

714
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Speaker 3: car salesman on the lot compared to the appaverage Joe

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Speaker 3: that you're gonna plug into that spot. Democrats right now

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, and I think in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: are better at voting for generic Democrat candidates than Republicans are.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sure that's always historically been the case.

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Speaker 3: Like Katie Hobbs a perfect example of this, mousey, and

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Speaker 3: these are adjectives that I'm going to apply to her

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Speaker 3: not dynamic, not particularly skilled at driving interest, enthusiasm, or attention.

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Speaker 3: Generic d John Fetterman couldn't even speak.

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Speaker 2: They built a.

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Speaker 3: Better mouse trap to get their voters out than Republicans have.

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Speaker 5: And this is one of the reasons why. And I've

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Speaker 5: seen this particularly with friends that you and I know, Clay,

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Speaker 5: who come from maybe a media background of some sort,

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Speaker 5: spent some time doing some Fox and maybe have a

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Speaker 5: podcast or whatever, and they get into running in a

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Speaker 5: congressional race, let's say, and you'rely this person smart and dynamic,

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Speaker 5: and they lose to somebody who you know has all

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Speaker 5: the charm of like Uncle Fester from the Adams family,

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Speaker 5: or yeah, like wait what that I don't even know

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Speaker 5: who that congress guy or congress gal is, and they

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Speaker 5: lose by you know, fifteen or twenty points, and you go,

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Speaker 5: how did that happen? Well, that person is a four

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Speaker 5: or seven term or whatever in congress machine politician. That's right.

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Speaker 5: They know who's gonna show up. They know how to

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Speaker 5: buy off the people that are gonna show up. They

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Speaker 5: know which unions they have to kiss up to and

741
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Speaker 5: give little goodies to, and they know who the best

742
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Speaker 5: person to run dishonest attack ads at the right time

743
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Speaker 5: is and boom, that's how they win.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 5: They've got great ideas and are so inspiring, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 3: It's frustrating, because the best person oftentimes does not win.

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Speaker 3: It's the person who runs the best campaign. Yes, and

749
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Speaker 3: those very different things. Yeahsolutely, absolutely the case. So that's

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Speaker 3: I think. I think that's a learning point or a

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Speaker 3: recognition that Trump has had something of a eureka moment

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Speaker 3: after twenty twenty. And I know, don't you know, we

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Speaker 3: all know about all the other stuff too, but doesn't

754
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Speaker 3: matter now. What matters now is knowing what you learned

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Speaker 3: about twenty twenty and using it now to win in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. We can't undo the past three years,

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Speaker 3: but we can change or at least, you know, win

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Speaker 3: for the next four.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the year of impact with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: Biden is still I believe in Italy it has not

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Speaker 3: gone well.

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Speaker 2: The G seven is meeting there.

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Speaker 3: Many different videos of Biden have gone viral on this

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Speaker 3: trip so far, all of them having to do with

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Speaker 3: the Space Cadet aspects of his presidency front page Italian newspaper,

767
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Speaker 3: ridiculing Joe Biden for being out of touch, slow speaking, halting.

768
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Speaker 3: We got to go to Italy to get honest news reporting.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to jump in on your mono intro here, Clay,

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Speaker 5: but we are forgetting something very important. It is President

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Speaker 5: Trump's birthday today.

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Speaker 2: It is President Trump's birthday.

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Speaker 5: So just want to say happy birthday the greatest President,

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Speaker 5: President Trump.

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Speaker 3: There you go, seventy eight right, seventy eight forty five,

776
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Speaker 3: the forty fifth president, soon to be the forty seven.

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Speaker 2: Sixty hair of a thirty five year old.

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Speaker 3: Health of a health of a twenty five year old,

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Speaker 3: according to his doctors. Biden did, and you're watching MSNBC.

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Speaker 3: We've been texting about this this morning. You took out

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Speaker 3: like the biggest MSNBC fan on the planet.

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Speaker 5: You let me know when you want me to jump

783
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: in and give you a window into what it's like

784
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Speaker 5: to watch MSNBC in the morning, because this morning was

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Speaker 5: a plus.

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Speaker 2: It was phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: So for first of all, Joe Biden addressed the hunter. Biden,

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Speaker 3: he only took two questions, and we're going to play

789
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Speaker 3: you the cuts and they were pre approved questions. Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden says, now, by the way, Buck, he's not going

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Speaker 3: to pardon or commute the sentence of Hunter Biden. We

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Speaker 3: certainly do agree that that is not an honest answer.

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Speaker 3: But Joe Biden wants you to know Hunter is one

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Speaker 3: of the brightest, most decent men he knows.

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Speaker 8: Listen with regard to the question regarding the family. I'm

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Speaker 8: extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome an addiction.

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Speaker 8: He's one of the brightest, most decent men I know.

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Speaker 8: And I am satisfied that I'm not going to do

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Speaker 8: anything I said. I abide by the jury decision. I

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Speaker 8: will do that, and I will not pardon him.

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Speaker 3: He also said he wouldn't commute him. Okay, I just

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Speaker 3: want to play this. This was the press conference. Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden Cut three says he's only going to take two questions,

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Speaker 3: So listen to this, and then I want to play

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Speaker 3: when somebody goes off script. The fact that we've just

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Speaker 3: accepted this is normal is bonkers. Here's cut three.

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Speaker 4: I will do what you're going to take.

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Speaker 8: Two questions from America reporters and two questionation from two

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Speaker 8: American reporters, and questions from two Ukrainate supporters, reporters. The

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Speaker 8: first the first person I'm to call and is calling

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Speaker 8: long and associated press.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Buck.

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Speaker 3: They're giving him a list of who he's calling on,

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Speaker 3: and he's been told exactly what they're going to ask.

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Speaker 3: And here is cut four. Somebody goes off script and

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Speaker 3: asks him something he's not expecting and he lectures them.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 9: I have a question for President Zelanski shortly on the announcements,

819
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Speaker 9: but if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you

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Speaker 9: about your discussions on the situation in Gaza here at

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Speaker 9: the summit. You were asked us a short time ago

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Speaker 9: about it after the skydepping demonstration. Can you give us

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Speaker 9: your assessment of hamasa's response and do you believe that

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Speaker 9: they are trying to work towards a deal or is

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Speaker 9: this response working against a deal? And what is your

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Speaker 9: message to allies, including those here at the G seven,

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Speaker 9: about what more, if anything, the US can do to

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Speaker 9: drive towards a piece of greement.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: I wish you guys were a little play by the

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Speaker 8: rules a little bit. I'm here to talk about a

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Speaker 8: critical situation in Ukraine. You're asking me another subject. I'll

833
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Speaker 8: be happy to answer it in detail later.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you as troubled by this as I am.

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Speaker 3: Buck the idea that a press which is supposed to

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Speaker 3: be independent. We know, I understand that we have basically

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Speaker 3: provda in many different aspects of the American political press now,

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Speaker 3: But the idea that the president, who never holds press conferences,

839
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Speaker 3: who virtually never does interviews, would be able to have

840
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Speaker 3: his team script who's asking questions and exactly what those

841
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Speaker 3: questions are, and that Biden would lecture if they're broken

842
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Speaker 3: the rules just a little bit. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: big story and it deserves discussion, even if it's not

844
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Speaker 3: particularly surprising, even you think didn't.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a big story.

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Speaker 3: Barack Obama didn't do this, Like you could rip Barack Obama,

847
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Speaker 3: you could rip Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 2: This is every day.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is today with Joe Biden, Like this

850
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Speaker 5: is every day.

851
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Speaker 3: But I think we've gotten so used to the idea

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Speaker 3: that he doesn't actually answer questions and they script everything

853
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Speaker 3: and that they write it, that we shouldn't avoid calling

854
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Speaker 3: out how abnormal it is, particularly when it's getting noticed

855
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Speaker 3: in Europe and they're like, this is the American president.

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Speaker 3: They're calling out our president more than our media is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I hate to be that guy, but I'm

858
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Speaker 5: going to be. This is why they're holding a debate

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Speaker 5: as early as they are. They're going to pump Biden

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Speaker 5: full of stuff. He's going to seem energetic and with

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Speaker 5: it during that debate. Just just mark my words, everyone,

862
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Speaker 5: I'm telling you what's going to happen. He's going to

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Speaker 5: seem energetic and with it that debate. The entire media

864
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Speaker 5: apparatus then goes all out clay messaging all summer. Biden

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Speaker 5: still the best option. Sure he's older, but did you

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Speaker 5: see how sharp he was at the debate and all

867
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Speaker 5: this stuff, all the the you know, the he doesn't

868
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Speaker 5: do press conferences and he wanders around and he's like

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Speaker 5: mister Magoo except evil. All of that gets swept aside

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Speaker 5: by look at how he did in the debate, which

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Speaker 5: is why they're holding a debate in June quite obviously.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, Trump, it's his birthday, and he gave

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Speaker 5: himself a birthday present, which was sharing the greatest hits

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Speaker 5: of Biden. You guys have if you guys have this

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Speaker 5: one the greatest hits of Joe Biden. President Trump shared

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Speaker 5: this on truth social which then also got shared elsewhere,

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Speaker 5: and we must have it. Where is that one you

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Speaker 5: were talking about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now we owe the truth to be self evident,

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Speaker 3: oh man, and women creative by go you know the

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Speaker 3: you know the thing, America is a nation that can

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Speaker 3: be defined in a single word.

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Speaker 8: I was going to foot him, excuse me, foothills of the

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Speaker 8: MLAs with Shijingping.

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Speaker 4: Know he knows.

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Speaker 8: So long as I is nine, I'll see it could

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Speaker 8: never be secure.

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Speaker 2: We'll never forget lying around.

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Speaker 8: And that's him him lying around. Actually, it is noteworthy

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Speaker 8: that the percentage of women who registered to vote and

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Speaker 8: cast the ballot is consistently higher than the percentage of

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Speaker 8: the men who do so. End the quote, repeat the line,

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Speaker 8: I late to effect the strategy to bobbilized true in

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Speaker 8: the NAT summer the pressure.

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Speaker 5: Those are two of the best, by the way, Truman,

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Speaker 5: that's one of my favorites. But also h end of quote,

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Speaker 5: repeat the line is his true Ron Burgundy moment. I

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Speaker 5: just I know, look, it's fun. I mean it's also

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Speaker 5: kind of shocking and horrifying. I know he's the president

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Speaker 5: and this is what we're dealing with. But you know,

901
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Speaker 5: we see here, Clay, we poke fun I just I

902
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Speaker 5: don't want anyone to have false hope that Biden's apparent

903
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Speaker 5: decline in dementia is going to be the silver bullet,

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Speaker 5: so to speak, for this election. Like it's it's just

905
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Speaker 5: not this is not the panacea. This is not the

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Speaker 5: thing that's going to turn the election for Joe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I actually this is I think this is

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Speaker 2: the election.

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Speaker 3: I do think that ultimately it's going to come down

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Speaker 3: to for the Look, we agree that there are forty

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Speaker 3: five percent of Trump supporters or Republican voters conservative. However

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Speaker 3: you want to classify at forty five percent of Biden,

913
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Speaker 3: there's about ten percent of people, let's say, that are

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Speaker 3: persuadable in some way, and I think that's probably even

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Speaker 3: being a little bit excessive. I think for those ten percent,

916
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Speaker 3: it's going to come town down to, yeah, I don't

917
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Speaker 3: really like Trump or Biden. They're the double hater brigade.

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Speaker 3: Some of those people will vote for RFK Junior and

919
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Speaker 3: other third parties, But when they make that decision between

920
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Speaker 3: Trump and Biden, I think it's going to come down

921
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Speaker 3: to Trump's kind of a jerk in the mind of

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Speaker 3: these people. Biden's brain doesn't work and I think these

923
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Speaker 3: people are going to come down on the side of Trump.

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Speaker 2: Because if you have to choose, if you had to.

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Speaker 3: Choose out there right now at your business, would you

926
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Speaker 3: rather work for the jerk or the guy with dementia

927
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Speaker 3: who's more likely to keep the business going. I think

928
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Speaker 3: most people are gonna pick the jerk over dementia. Again,

929
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Speaker 3: I'm saying for those that are undecided, And obviously there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of factors here. Biden's done a poor job.

931
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Speaker 3: I think it's not just the dementia. I think it's

932
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Speaker 3: also the rise in price of goods, the southern border,

933
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Speaker 3: the fact that he's failed.

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Speaker 2: If it were just.

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Speaker 3: Dementia and Biden weren't the incumbent against the I think

936
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Speaker 3: Trump would be in trouble. I think this is the

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Speaker 3: election in their minds.

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Speaker 5: Interesting, I don't see it that way.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 5: And I would just say the media member, the debate

941
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Speaker 5: will happen. The media will be running clips and analysis

942
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Speaker 5: based on that debate the entire summer, and that's it.

943
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Speaker 5: There's a debate in the summer, and then there's a

944
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Speaker 5: debate in September. People will already be voting in September,

945
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Speaker 5: so all Biden has to do is show up and

946
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Speaker 5: do what he does. And this guy, the one thing

947
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Speaker 5: he can do is be disingenuous and spewed talking points.

948
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Speaker 2: I mean he's been.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like he, you know, came out of the

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Speaker 5: crib just doing the same. Oh I'm old Joe, and

951
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Speaker 5: you know, not a joke, and you know I'm not

952
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Speaker 5: trying to be facetious, and it's all the same crap

953
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Speaker 5: with him all the time. He'll get up there, he'll

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Speaker 5: do that, and all summer, all will be when you're

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Speaker 5: talking about that middle ten percent. Our people already know

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Speaker 5: anybody who's conservative, anybody who looks at you know there

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Speaker 5: gets their information honestly online more than they do. But

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Speaker 5: people who watch CBS News, people who re USA Today occasionally,

959
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Speaker 5: you know, people who are very casual observers of the news,

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Speaker 5: are going to be blasted all summer with Joe Biden's fine.

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Speaker 5: Here's this clip from the debate. Look at him, he

962
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Speaker 5: beat Trump and the debate. I'm not saying that that's

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Speaker 5: even true. I'm just telling you they're going to blanket

964
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Speaker 5: the airwaves with It's not as bad as you've been told.

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Speaker 5: Look at Joe up on the debate stage. That's the

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Speaker 5: only why else would they have a debate in June.

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Speaker 3: Well, my theory is that he's got to get over

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Speaker 3: the hump and prove that he can do it. A

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Speaker 3: couple of things on this, Well, let's talk about it

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Speaker 3: when we come back, because I got two thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: I think you're hitting on something that.

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Speaker 3: I do agree with, and that is the low information

973
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Speaker 3: voter who still watches CBS evening News or whatever else.

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Speaker 3: They really aren't as plugged in as crazily the young

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Speaker 3: voter on TikTok, because think about this, Trump may beat

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Speaker 3: Biden eighteen to twenty nine year olds. Do you know

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Speaker 3: the strongest voting group right now for Joe Biden in

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Speaker 3: the entire country? Voters over sixty five. They are breaking

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Speaker 3: overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. I think that's staggering to a

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Speaker 3: lot of people because you tend to think, oh, those

981
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Speaker 3: young whipper snapper idiots, they don't know any better. They're

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Speaker 3: actually potentially going to vote for Trump. According to Axios

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Speaker 3: this morning, over sixty five is the group that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden is doing best with.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of staggering to me.

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Speaker 3: And then but you make the argument these are the

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Speaker 3: people that are still watching the CBS evening news. They're

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Speaker 3: more propagandized.

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Speaker 2: If you want to.

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Speaker 5: Be really concerned about the future of the public, look

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Speaker 5: at Republic, look at you know we make fun of

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Speaker 5: the view if you has two million viewers every ye, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's an institution for people who don't

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Speaker 5: really like to read.

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Speaker 2: But true.

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Speaker 5: But there's also I mean, these big broadcast news channels

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Speaker 5: do these thirty minute news shows.

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Speaker 2: They still have.

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Speaker 5: Millions and millions of people watching every night, and we

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Speaker 5: didn't even We're always talking about the cable news because

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Speaker 5: that's a FSNBC was amazing, it was. It was amazing

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Speaker 5: this morning. I even made Kerry come in and watch

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Speaker 5: something with me. But the other news channels have much bigger.

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Speaker 5: I mean, who's the guy who's just like Captain Handsome?

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Speaker 5: I don't even know is David Mirror?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Exactly. He is a really good looking man, handsome man.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, we're both married guys. He's a handsome man,

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Speaker 5: you know, but I don't know what he does other

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Speaker 5: than be handsome. But he's got like six million viewers

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Speaker 5: a night or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill Malugin or David muirr. Better looking man on television?

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Speaker 3: Right now, let's go to break. Okay, let's go to

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Speaker 3: let's go to commercial. I mean that's like asking whether

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Speaker 3: Tiger Woods or Jack Nicholas was better at better at

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Speaker 3: his eight iron.

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