1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're 7 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: in the backyard. It's been an interesting little morning for me, 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: I think for everyone, but mostly for me. The power 9 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: was out, so I had to well, it's just been 10 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: stressful because it was raining all weekend. But my home 11 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: didn't flood. So you know, any time my house isn't 12 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: full of water, it's a good time. So I'm feeling fine. 13 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: I'm wearing a fantastic shade of green, and everybody knows it. 14 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: What's going on. Oh, I had to take an ice 15 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: cold shower. That was the big thing for me this morning, 16 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: an ice cold shower in the dark, and I try 17 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: to imagine, you know, maybe I'm under a beautiful waterfall 18 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: and that will help. That helps for two seconds, and 19 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: then it was agony. So but I'm awake. I'm alert 20 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: as much as I can be. At eleven fifteen, is 21 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: there anything else going on. I'm scanning my brain. I 22 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: don't think anything else is happening. My house isn't flooding. 23 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Thank god. That's all we can That's I'm just so thankful. 24 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Let's get into the podcast. I'm a mess. Today's guest 25 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: is absolutely fantastic. It's Mo Fry passic, Mo Hi friend. 26 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. 27 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here. 28 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for experiencing this entire situation leading up to 29 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: the recording. 30 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: I I adore that this is what you identify as 31 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: a situation, because I feel like listeners should know. 32 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 3: Like it was like I like, walked in. It was 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: really nice. She said, do you want to water? You 34 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: set up some cables, and. 35 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: Then at one point both of you individually said I'm 36 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: so embarrassed. Whoa, I don't know for what, and I 37 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: does not go, yeah. 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're ten minutes late. I just don't 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: like to I like the guests to just be walk in, 40 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: walk out, not see a moment of it. So for 41 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: I mean, my phone is currently as we talked about, 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: the battery is hanging by a thread. 43 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: The real macguiver situation. 44 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Yes, sure, attached to all sorts of bat or power chords. 45 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: A power cord attached to a power cord to a 46 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 4: kind of vinta Apple charter. 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: Yes, everything is just you know, I just pushed my 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: life to the absolute limit right before the breaking point. 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: And that you've met me today at the breaking point. 50 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I love that, which feels wonderful meeting such a 51 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: raw form. 52 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for showing up. 53 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: Of course it rained all weekend. How was your rain experience? 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: I love rain. 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 4: It's like you know, I find in La the little 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: cloudy weather is like a little jacket for the world 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: where it's like, don't talk to me right now, you know, 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: like there's no pressure to go outside, there's no pressure 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: to like right, So I appreciate. 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: That you don't get sir crazy. 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: No, No, you could put me in a dark room 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: for a very long time. I always say two doesn't 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: want to space odyssey at the end, I'd be fine, 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I just like daydream But oh, 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: look at this, Look at this gorgeous like fabric in 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: this room. 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: I can I feel like I should be better at 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: staying home. But what are you go out and do? 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: I think I just need to know that I can sure. 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Of course, the option I need to know that I 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: can just hop in the car and I can. I mean, 72 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: it's just raining, but I don't like to get my 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: shoes wet. I need to get better waterproof shoes or something. 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: So then when it is nice out, are you then 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 4: in the same opposite way of being like I'm staying inside. 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Of course, okay nice. It's a broken system completely. 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: It's a demand avoidant system. 78 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 4: But also when I came here, it's like I keep 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: feeling like I've say to Analis that it felt like 81 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: Costa Rica a little bit. 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: But then I realized what it feels like. 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: What it almost there? An animal back here? Yeah, cutie, 84 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: oh oh fantastic. Yeah. We have a couple of cats 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: that have been visiting recently, and I really love to 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: see it. 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 4: But this feels like I'm visiting Billy Collins and three 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: in Hawaii when he's put laureate and I'm in his 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 4: backyard and there's tropical plants and We're going to go 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: talk art and and be intelligent, witty yet poetic. 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: You know, as I said, this. 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Has come to the wrong place. You've come to the 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: absolute wrong No, that's that's the vibe. I'm always to 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: shoot early thousands Hawaii. Yeah. No, I love the clouds 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: and I'm growing. I'm relearning to love the rain because, 96 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: as I was telling you pre podcast, the house flooded 97 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: two years in a row, and it's you know, the 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: trauma has just seeped into my bones. 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: But how do you had natural disaster damage prior to this? 100 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: No, but I have had some. I think my family 101 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: has a water curse because our family home flooded. The 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: basement flooded when I was a kid, and it was. 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you just said no, and then he said, yes, 104 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: what You're home flooded. 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: The basement, but it was sprinklers, so it wasn't natural. 106 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: I understand. 107 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when I first moved to La, I 108 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: was living with a couple in their baby and it 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: was a horrible situation. So over the holidays, I packed 110 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: my car up in order to move out, and then 111 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: went home to Utah for two weeks and it rained 112 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: for two weeks straight, and I got back at like 113 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: eleven thirty at night and stepped into my car and 114 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: heard a splash. My car was full of breaking, total panic. 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean, like just an absolute breakdown. 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: Because it's also in the attempt to like protect yourself 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: and your items to. 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Leave blew off my face, God heartbreaking. 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: And then of course the two years of funding. So 120 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: I don't know what which my parents crossed, but there's 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: just we could resolve that today. Yeah, maybe that's what 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: we do, right, get me out of the water curse. 123 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: I feel like we could do that easily. 124 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: What do we need to do to get this? 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: You need to find the soul lesson that your soul's 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: trying to learn. 127 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh, interesting because it's. 128 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: Like, okay, what feeling of like? 129 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: Either because great water is actually a very loving destroyer 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: if you think about it. Yes, when we're talking big, 131 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: big expanded ideas, not literal because it's awful when people 132 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: lose things. But I think if I'm just pitch on it, right, 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: if you like, say you're pitching a more fantasy based thing, 134 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: you could say like, okay, there's purification. There's a feeling 135 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: like even when you like a benevolent sort of requirement 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: of it's very bum what is it called the Catholic 137 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: Biblical like I'm not a lot I should wash away 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: in Yes, yes, of course. 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: And it's like this idea of a shame paradigm. 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: It feels like, interesting, So I need to let go 141 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: of some sort of shame. 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the curse that you would then 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: be the curse breaker is the idea that there is 144 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: shame in wanting material things. 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, what do you think? Wow? I really like this. Okay, 146 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: I have a hard time with material things in general, 147 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: are you Yeah. 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: The whole podcast, but gifts? 149 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: I love this? Okay, so material Maybe the podcast brought 150 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: the curse back to be healed. Yeah, maybe and complete it. 151 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: Maybe this is a whole bit, a whole journey to 152 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: get water out of my life. 153 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: I would love or like, yeah. 154 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: Learning to accept material goods and keep. 155 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: Them a little bit, because it's like it's I think, 156 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think a lot of us have 157 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: the issue feeling morally wrong wanting things and homes and that. 158 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: You know, Yes, I really have a lot of that 159 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't I never buy anything. When 160 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: I do, I usually don't buy the best. 161 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: Really, yes, yeah, because it feels indulgent. Yeah, yeah, I 162 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: hear that. 163 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 2: Interesting. We may have gotten to the root or something 164 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: here that could really change everything for. 165 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Me, because here's my thing with like break and curse 166 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: or whatever. I never blame someone. 167 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 4: Never like if you're thinking about concepts and you're playing 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: with it and going that happened to you? 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: Because it's not that happened to you. 170 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: Because but if we can zoom out and find a 171 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: personal pattern that it can release, right party. 172 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Rock Wow, this is Have you ever felt like you've 173 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: had a curse? 174 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: I've put plenty Yeah, any elemental. 175 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Golly, I don't think elemental. I hope not. 176 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I guess physical would be elemental. No, but not 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: earth wind fire okay. 178 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: And do you uh do you remember a point when 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: you were like, oh, no, this is going to curse me. 180 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: No, it'll more so be like it's like the thing 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: where you go to other people's houses and you're like. 182 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: Damn, we don't live normal on mine. 183 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: You know. 184 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: It's like you're like, damn, have I been living a curse? Damn? 185 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: And you're like, you guys are that's okay, that's okay. 186 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: It's more like a realization constantly. 187 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: That is a nice thing to go to another person's 188 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: house and just get ideas on how normal people live. 189 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: But then I like, for the most of my young life, 190 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: I was like, this is fake, fakers. 191 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: You're putting this on for me. 192 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, like tied and weird. 193 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: You need a chaotic home where like your aunt's come 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: in into your laundry and take it away and then 195 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: lose your volleyball jersey and the whole team's about at you. 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: Has there ever been something you've walked into someone's house 197 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: and you're like, I am going to implement this into 198 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: my own home. 199 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: I I like hate it. How strong my reaction was 200 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: absolutely not. I know exactly what I want my home. 201 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: I love my home. I don't know how I wanted 202 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: to work to the general vibe at your house. 203 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: I caught feminine scarface. 204 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, oh, I like that. 205 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: I really love sort of an eighties aesthetic. But also 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: I needed to have a cozy, plush blankets and softness 207 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: where you can nest right right, like the rain darkness. 208 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: There's no I can be in my little nest without 209 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: watching reality TV, without the pressure to go out in 210 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: the world. 211 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: Right, feminine scarface, yeah, I. 212 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: Got the I like, I have a lot of velvet 213 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: like Doberman sort of paintings. 214 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: I have a lot of Nagle Patrick nagels like the 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: real arts. 216 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: So there's like a little bit of a danger to it, 217 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: but in a cozy. 218 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: Way, but in a like cartoonish way. 219 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Do you are you a Doberman fan? 220 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: Do you have pets or just like the general image 221 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: of Dover. 222 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: I have a little spirit guy named von Ya. He's 223 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: a cat and I love him so much. 224 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: What color black and white? 225 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh? Very sweet? How old is he? 226 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: He's nine okay. 227 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: Got years and years ahead of him. 228 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a deva kitty too. He's a little jet setter. 229 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: He like he flies with me. He does his thing. 230 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: When he flies. I have a friend who has two cats, 231 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: and she at one point, because I guess at the 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: airport when you fly with them, you have to take 233 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: them out of their crate to go through security, and 234 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: she had to do that. She took them both out 235 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: and then they peed all over her. And this was 236 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: on the way, so she. 237 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: Got a journey ahead of her. 238 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine piss journey for total The entire plane 239 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: had a piston journey. 240 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the truth. 241 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: What a nightmare for everybody. How is your cat flying? 242 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: He okay? 243 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: Because I've seen people like, oh, yeah, it's tough when 244 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: people don't know how to wrangle their own animal and 245 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 4: you do have to take him out, and then you 246 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: have to do this thing where they swipe your hands 247 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 4: for like the bomb residue, no matter what if you 248 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: have a pet, okay, and so then you have to 249 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: be holding your pet. And I always do like a 250 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: clamshell with my hands to get him to swipe it. 251 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: But I always wear a sweatshirt and I put Vonya 252 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: in it, and I like rock him. But because I 253 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: got him in Wisconsin and when I went back to 254 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: New York, his first flight was when he was like young. 255 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: He's very customed, so this is just kind of a 256 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: thing for him. 257 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: He's really good at it. But I will say, because 258 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: he's good, people have no boundaries and like. 259 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: Especially the older women, like, oh, it's so cute. I 260 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: start touching my cat and I'm like, hey, this sucks. 261 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: Like is he on your lap throughout the flight? No, gosh, okay. 262 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: He tucks in that little carrier you put it under 263 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: the seat. He's so quiet that I always have to 264 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: alert the person next to me. I go to see 265 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: where there is a cat underneath her. 266 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Wow, and it is alive. 267 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: It's alive. It's alive. But I don't know. He's easy. 268 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: Cats are Yeah, he's easy, but you do. You don't 269 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: have pets to you. 270 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: We have a dog and we absolutely love her. But 271 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: anytime it rains, I remember why one big thing cats 272 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: are easier with is they don't have to go outside. 273 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they put booties on. 274 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah she well, she's really good in the rain. She's 275 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: just a puppy. She's nine months old, and she was 276 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: surprisingly great out in the rain. It kind of didn't 277 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: bother her at all. Okay, but I think she's a 278 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: Rottweiler and I think they're used to their water dogs. 279 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: She's the best. That's amazing, wonderful little animal. 280 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: Oh wow, those are special ones. 281 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I knew nothing about them until we 282 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: found her. And yeah, she's well we rescued earlier, but 283 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 2: still really Yeah, and once we started telling people we 284 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: have a Rottwiler, everyone has had these incredible experiences with them. 285 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: Well, because I feel like pities get the conversation forward, 286 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: then Doberman's and so don't necessarily get discussed. 287 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: Right, they're kind of lost in the mix, and they're 288 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: kind of in that same category of people think that 289 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: this is a scary animal and that's actually the sweetest creature. 290 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: You can possibly imagine. And she's so smart. She also 291 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: thinks I'm a toy. That's fine, she's basically yeah, but yeah, 292 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: the cat. You had cats at one point, and you 293 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: know they're ups and downs. The cat litter is a 294 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: tough situation. 295 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: Why is there been no. 296 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: Science community has got to just maybe put everything else 297 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: aside for a minute and just say, let's figure out 298 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: how to deal with cats toilet. It's so bizarre, it's crazy. 299 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: There haven't been bigger advancements in this. 300 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: All the pitches, all the guards, all the little to 301 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: like even just a foot cleaner, it would be a 302 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: better advancer than the actual litter itself. 303 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: Right when they're tracking the little throughout the house. That's 304 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: almost grosser than the smell or anything. 305 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: It's humiliating. Sometimes you have people over and you're like, 306 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: it's tough. 307 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: If you feel a piece of litter on your foot, 308 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: it's just like my. 309 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: Back it up, pack it up. 310 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: But I'm out take it all away from me. I 311 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: don't deserve any of this. Yeah, they've got to. I 312 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: guess you could put the litter in like an area 313 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: where there's a carpet that they have to step off 314 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: onto and wipe their feet. 315 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: But I feel I feel they know because you know 316 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: what I mean. 317 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: There is like a destructive They're like no way like 318 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: truly because I have like a carpet and then I 319 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: have like a plastic thing and then my cat. I 320 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: will watch them like fly over those. I am like 321 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: you knew, you knew? I want it like the fuck. 322 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. They have those automatic litter boxes that 323 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: are kind of a robot. 324 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: Those. My friend has one of those. 325 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: Those. 326 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: Those are like the worst a year. 327 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: It's like remember you see, like when you were like 328 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: in the nineties, like you'd see commercials for like robot dog. 329 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: You like, of course it's a perfectly working cool and 330 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: it's like see it's this is nothing nothing. 331 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: This can't work. This doesn't move at all, and it's that. 332 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: I imagine that it's probably also scary for the cat. 333 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: A lot of cats have issue with it. 334 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Right because I assume it makes noise. 335 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's also like weird that it feels like 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: it's moving. They can understand it's moving in some sort 337 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: of rhythm with them, but the pattern might not be 338 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: necessarily direct because of the timing. 339 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Right. 340 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: I don't love it. 341 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: I wonder if big litter. All of the cat litter 342 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: corporations are like, we cannot let this problem be solved. 343 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 4: Okay, well if I'm so good at your standing this, 344 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: because imagine big litter is also based in like big concrete, 345 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: which is based in big construction. 346 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: Wow, it's not going here. 347 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: We could go a lot of places. 348 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: This goes so far, because. 349 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: Then who's big crystal though? You know what I mean? 350 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: They all have so much writing on this. Yeah, I 351 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: would say the same level as big oil and not know. 352 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: But if we uncovered something we. 353 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: Have there, there will never be a solution to cat litter. 354 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: People have probably been killed. 355 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Because there would be you know what I mean, like 356 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: if there wasn't something against. 357 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: Of course, billions of dollars are being poured into cat 358 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: litter every year. 359 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: We're getting a season desas tomorrow. 360 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: We both died as seriously drowned up. 361 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: What is our soul trying to learn? 362 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: I think I think that there's something happening. 363 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't disagree. 364 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: Pharma similar thing. They don't want all diseases cured. 365 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: Same Yeah, I said, same, you have something that your stocking. 366 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: They were the same, but they just givet the same. 367 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: I don't want them. 368 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: You're setting in the way of a lot of cures. 369 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: Sam, I don't want them to make so much money 370 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: off that ship. 371 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: You have a lot of stocks in litter and dead. 372 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: Oh what a shame at all, I know, but it 373 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: gives us challenges and things to work. 374 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: So we're all just tinkering on our little rocks all. 375 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Day, you know what I mean? Right, And then someday 376 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: you'll miss the litter on your feet. Oh don't whoa, 377 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, my god, I'm sorry. It's something we all 378 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: have to brutal. It's something we all have to. 379 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: One day miss the litter on your feet. That was like, 380 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 4: that was Luther Van Dross level. That was crazy. One 381 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: day I'll dance with my father again as well. I 382 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: cannot believe that. Oh you said that it was a pivot, 383 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 4: like you were closing that thought, and then you just 384 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: dropped the most emotional, devastating. 385 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh, somebody needs to write a piece of beautiful music. 386 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: Someday you'll miss the litter on your feet. R and B. Yeah, 387 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: beautiful R and B. Hit Oh well, speaking of difficult topics. Absolutely, Look, 388 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: I was looking forward to having you here on the 389 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: podcast today that I thought, oh, come bye, we'll have 390 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: a nice conversation and then we'll move on. So I 391 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: was a little surprised the podcast. Look, the podcast is 392 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: called I said, no gifts, and you're you know, you're 393 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: an intelligent person. Sometimes you can read emails. You're really 394 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: backing away. I feel like you're really building up a 395 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: case for yourself. So I assumed you'd be able to 396 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: follow the rule of don't bring a gift. So I, uh, 397 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: you know, and I've had a very hard morning already, 398 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: maybe the hardest morning anyone's ever had, could be. I'm 399 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: struggling through life, and so it was a little difficult 400 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: to see yet another challenge. You showed up with the gifts. 401 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: I did, well, it's in this beautiful tube. 402 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: Well I'm actually shocked, though, because you're sitting here and 403 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: going can't believe It's like this has been contentious the 404 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: whole time. I talked about wanting people to die and 405 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: not wanting cures, you know what I mean, Like, it's like, 406 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: how are you shocked by this? 407 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: Of course the biggest shock of all sort of what 408 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: is it? 409 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: Antagonism? Of course it gave it antagonizing. 410 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: Of course you're an antagonist. 411 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: That's a charm of this relationship. That's sort of like 412 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: I told you not that I specifically asked you do not. 413 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: To do that. 414 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: And that's that's what giving it. That's why people want 415 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: us to win when we're watching this film. 416 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: Right, they want me to overcome me your villainy. 417 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 418 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: So now we're going to see you know, I'm on 419 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: my journey here. 420 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: I love that. 421 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: Will I make it to the end of the podcast, 422 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: and part of that is opening this gift right now. 423 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: So I'm going to I'm going to slide this out 424 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: of it's in a poster tube and it's so far 425 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 2: feeling poster. Ask but we don't know. We can't make 426 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: any assumptions. We'll put this here. It's like a big cigarette. 427 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: Now that's fine, it is, Oh my god, that's so 428 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: fine if you like, start with a small one and 429 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 4: the builds to that. 430 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Okay, now this is seems to be a poster and 431 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: I'm here you pull can we should oh? Multiple posters? Okay? Wow? Okay, 432 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: So this first one is this gorgeous kind of photo 433 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: of some uh what do we call those islets? Small 434 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: islands in the ocean, you know, the big rocky ones, 435 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: the ocean. Obstacles are what you see when you take 436 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: your eyes off the goal. 437 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: That's so true, so true. 438 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: Okay, should I should we look at all and then 439 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: I can discuss. Okay, I'm excited. Okay, now this is 440 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: a bigger. 441 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: Hey, we're only three working. 442 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: We'll get this one first. Okay, now you pull you 443 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: hold that in. We're opening, opening, opening. Another poster that says, 444 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: and now it's a kind of a beautiful field. Is 445 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: that wheat sweet with the beautiful sun behind it? And 446 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: it says a sunset is a sunrise on the other 447 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: side of the world. 448 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 3: Wow. 449 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: Now if you think about that for a minute, don't 450 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: He'll spin out. Okay, now, let's I think this is 451 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: the final one. It is and you pull that in 452 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: and I'm already singing a hang glider So we love 453 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: hang glider in front of a sunset. And the what 454 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: we're learning here is just reach for the sky. 455 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah. 456 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: But if you think about that, think about that part, 458 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: there's one second, your whole i mean, your whole life 459 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: plan falls apart. 460 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: These are achievement theme posters. Tell me, uh wow, reach 461 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: for the sky, and it also says it in several 462 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: languages on the back, but if you want to see 463 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: in a different language, you have to frame it on 464 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: the opposite side, and there's no picture. 465 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's sort of like a late text paper. 466 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, why did you bring these gorgeous? 467 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: I was so excited. 468 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: Statements Okay, one I picked them up. There have a 469 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: theme of color tones because it. 470 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Fell all very sunset, very golden. 471 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: Very golden. I have maybe like fifty of those. 472 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: And my favorite part is so my great aunt was 473 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: a principal and in the Eli school, just kind of teacher, 474 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: and when she passed away, I had to go through 475 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 4: dumb like storage and clean out stuff. 476 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: And she had so many like school supplies. 477 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: Right right, Oh, so many school supplies. 478 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: And part of me was like, well, these are dumb 479 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: and fun and maybe I'll make art. But I was like, 480 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: I have to save these because they're from the original. 481 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 4: Like it's like people will know them from like their 482 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: grade school or like hanging there. Like they're so dumb. 483 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: They're so dumb that they become profound. And you look 484 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: at these and you're like a sunset on Oh, maybe 485 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: I'm not alone in the world. Like it's like you 486 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: go too quick and like some of the other posters 487 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 4: I specifically didn't bring because it's like they're so ugly, 488 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: like it'll be someone like make it across the finish line, 489 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: and it's like a sort of eighties woman wearing Sophie 490 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: shorts pulled two tight, so there's a very suggressive camel 491 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 4: toee and then like and like she looks pretty upset. 492 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: And then another one is like just like the road. 493 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: Ahead, and then it's just like some guy's ass like 494 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: kind of jogging on along the forest Gump road. 495 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: And they're not good and right, but it's heaven of. 496 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: Course, what a find because they're the genuine you know, 497 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: these haven't been like created by some ironic online company, and. 498 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: You can feel from the paper that they're. 499 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: From that vinyl. Yes, yeah, I mean this is a 500 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: real Uh, this will last for ages. 501 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: They look brand they were from No, yeah, I know 502 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: it's lost it. I think she probably got these seventy eighties. 503 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: And she apparently never hung these up herself. 504 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: Well maybe somewhere in the classroom, who. 505 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: Knows, Okay, but they seem so brand new. 506 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: I know. 507 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: It feels like maybe she was more of a you know, 508 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: she was discouraging everyone. 509 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, it could be could that if you're you're 510 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: taking good data that I was out taking. 511 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she may have and just kind of terrorizing. 512 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: Yes, she was protecting this. Its like Pandora's Box and 513 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: finding these inspirations. 514 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: Anyone finds out about sunsets and sunrises. I'm finished, but 515 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 2: I have a question though. 516 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: I am what I call Amelia Viadelia brained, which is 517 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: just literal processor of course. And so what's so funny 518 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: is that when something is like super dumb and like 519 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: just like a platitude, my brain takes it literally and 520 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 4: I take it to me the most profound, like truly, 521 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: and I'm like, ah, that's amazing, and someone will be 522 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: like no, it just says like stop walkway, and like 523 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: but stop walkway, you know what I mean, or something 524 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: like that. 525 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: I think the thing with platitudes, though, is that they 526 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: are so universally felt and experienced that they become trite. 527 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: But it's like they are powerful things most of the time, 528 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: but they're things that you just have thought about and 529 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: heard so much because they're universally. 530 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: I'm here with you on the like the sort of 531 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 4: dowdea ching the way, like back and forth. The most 532 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: profound is the simplest truth. But I'm thinking more like live, laugh, love, 533 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 534 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. We gotta live, we gotta live, 535 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: and we gotta most of all, if you're not loving, 536 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: you're not laughing or living. Yeah, So there you go. 537 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: I biff that one hard. I if that hard. It's 538 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: wine o'clock about that one. 539 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: It's always win wine o'clock. That's a tough one. It's 540 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: a tough one to get. 541 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: It's just a TJA backsplaque. 542 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't hang that in an elementary school. 543 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: Well, you always have like those teachers in their office 544 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: where you be like, can't wait till the weekend. 545 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: You're like, what is your you don't like your job, 546 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: you don't like being with us. 547 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: Students, a guidance counselor. 548 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: Did you ever run into a teacher like out in 549 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: the wild at the grocery store or anything, have have 550 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: that uncanny experience. 551 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 4: Well, because girls came out when I was in the 552 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: seventh grade and introduced the concept to us, pretty well. 553 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, that kind of ruins it. 554 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: Ruined for me, to be honest, So not really. 555 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I think I was probably in fourth 556 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: grade when that happened, and it just threw everything I. 557 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: Did because then you like know the thing, expect the things, 558 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: and then when it's happening, if you're hyper away or 559 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: you're like meta, and you're. 560 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: Like, is it this weird or good? 561 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: Hi? 562 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, in your brain there's almost like school is almost 563 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: a West World style thing where they're all trapped in there, 564 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: and then you see them sad shopping for eggs and 565 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: you're like, oh. 566 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: I have I just don't even think I did, really, 567 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 4: did you? 568 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? At least once once or twice I would run 569 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: into a teacher. Though I was an excellent student. 570 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. It was so sharp and incredible. 571 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: I just heard the last bitch after that, I was 572 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 4: an excellent student. 573 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: I love that. 574 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: I think I was probably a decent student. 575 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: Okay. 576 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't the one that was like keeping everyone from 577 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: enjoying recess, you know when someone's like screaming and then everyone's. 578 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: But your inner standards were. 579 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept it together, okay, but I had a 580 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: little fun. So again, what does that look like? Do 581 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: tell what was having fun in the classroom look like. 582 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 583 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: I facilitated the passing of a note for someone else 584 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: before the man. 585 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't creating the notes or reading them. I 586 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: was a loser. 587 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: It I love them. 588 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: How were you as a. 589 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: Student, Oh, it's a mixed bag. I was a really 590 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: good bullshitter. 591 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 592 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 3: I think I was a charming student. I was a 593 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: very smart kid. 594 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: But I didn't realize I had so many like different 595 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: learning disabilities right right, that I was like cheating just 596 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: to get something down. But the work I was doing 597 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: to cheating was way more work than anyone else was doing, 598 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 4: you know, right, And so I would I would like 599 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 4: wine and dine. I'd be like, if I buy you 600 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: the Starbucks, will you get rid of my absences? 601 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: Or something like. I was really like. 602 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: You were using real adult skills. 603 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: Because I'd also gone to a special school, which is 604 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: so wild for like kids with high IQ's when I 605 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: was younger, Okay, and then they like drill into you 606 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: like kind of this education that was wonderful but not 607 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: applicable to then public high school. 608 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Interesting, right, So you get to. 609 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: Public high school and you're like, I'm like, it's like 610 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 4: it was I didn't I faked a lot. 611 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: Did you feel alienated? 612 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: No, it's pretty popular. 613 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So you were able to you know, mix the 614 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: high IQ school. 615 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 4: I was popular, which is it feels psychotic to say, 616 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: because it's like what a metric, you. 617 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: Know, like you're like, what does that mean? 618 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 2: Now? 619 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 4: They did what they would test you in, and I 620 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 4: think by way of that they chose its felt Montessori esque, 621 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: where like the the way they education style was more 622 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: you just learned about different things and it was all 623 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 4: those subjects were integrated. 624 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: And oh interesting. 625 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: I liked it, But I don't think the there should 626 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 4: be a bury for entry in that way. 627 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: This went all the way up to ninth grade, that 628 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: went to eighth grade, eighth grade, and then they just 629 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: throw you back into the stream. 630 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: Are you back in the stream? 631 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: But I was also an athlete, so I think I 632 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: got that grandfathered into like not having to really figure 633 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: a lot out. 634 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Right, Mo, that's at all you better know that was 635 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: a very good student. I was a very good student excellence. 636 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: I can't stress. 637 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: Also, though I was like my school was like the 638 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: popular were like the like kids who because I grew 639 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: up in Madison, so it was like kids who were 640 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 4: active involved in the political community, like the cool kids 641 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 4: were not the stereotypical. 642 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, It was kind of a bizarro world. It 643 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: wasn't like the cheerleaders and football players. No, by no 644 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: means they were looked down upon. 645 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: They were certainly not celebrated. 646 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's what I mean by popular, because it 647 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 4: was like a space where it was like, obviously there 648 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: was hierarchies, but it was slightly more. 649 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: I guess inclusive. 650 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: So if not, I want, I don't want to go 651 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: aggressive and it's inclusivity because it was sure very many ways. 652 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: But I think it was more diversified. And it's cheerleader the. 653 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Right, right, And what athletics were you in? 654 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: Volleyball? 655 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: Volleyball? Yeah, that's that's the one I'm most scared of. Really, 656 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: Why terrified of volleyball? There's something about that ball flying 657 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: at you that I'm just running out of. I don't 658 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: want it coming near me. 659 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: Did you play? Did you try? 660 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Like well? 661 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: In gim we were required to play it, sure, and 662 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever successfully gotten a volleyball over 663 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: the net. 664 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: It's I don't know it. I think they teach it wrong, 665 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: especially in jim. 666 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: How are they teaching it wrong? 667 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: Because also like you're playing with other people who are 668 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: doing it. 669 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: Just to hit it hard or just interesting. 670 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: Right, you're not really getting a chance because do you 671 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 4: play other sports at all? 672 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: Simply no, badminton, badmint. 673 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: So the origin of volleyball is tennis and badminton, like, 674 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: oh volume, right. 675 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: And there's the net. 676 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 677 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: It feels like the volleyball should have been the first thing, 678 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: and then tennis and badmint are a refined version of it. 679 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: I my agree. 680 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: Do you think it's like technology getting smaller? 681 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: We had a ball, just a ball, but tools. 682 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: Right, we're bringing tools in first that we're putting the 683 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: little feathers on. 684 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: See. 685 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: I what I loved is that when you said I 686 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: do not play sports, it gave the like I don't 687 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: at all, and then it's pivoted to like I only 688 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: play a wealthy sport, you know, like bad you know 689 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: what I mean. I thought it was gonna be like 690 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't like to move like that, but it was 691 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: no poor you know, no gay yes, yes, yes, badminton. 692 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, it's in a pretty solid gay camp. 693 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: No it's not. 694 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: It's so wealthy. 695 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: It's like imagine like you're going like going to Holly, 696 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: say what sport? 697 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: Everybody? What sport? There's so many other sports would name before. 698 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: Bad badminton is so gay? Are you kidding me? 699 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 4: This is a caricature of an eighties dad villain who 700 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: is gay, but is the dad you know what I mean? 701 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: Like he's in the gym with the racket the thing, 702 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: you knowall racketball. Now that's intense, you know, that's like, 703 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: that's very Wall Street energy. 704 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: You and your I don't you think badminton is the 705 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: gay sport? 706 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god? You think? I mean, it's certainly not straight. 707 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: I can see it being people aren't straight. 708 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: Here's at. 709 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: And that's equality because gay people can be evil. Anything 710 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: that's good that we have should be evil. 711 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: A lot of evil gay people. Some of the worst, 712 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: the worst people alive. 713 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: Are gay that we have to take away to be 714 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: of course, naturally. 715 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: This is get rid of all of us. 716 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: This is why I don't believe in big for curing 717 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: all diseases. 718 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Now badminton. My introduction to badminton was public 719 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: high school. 720 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: We had we had a we had a unit. 721 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: It was just so nice. Whereas like, this thing isn't 722 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: gonna hurt me. It flats in the air. 723 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but were you competitive in it? O? 724 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: But I at least was able to, you know, participate. 725 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: It's interesting. I act genuinely. 726 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: I know we're being somewhat facetious, but I'm genuinely interested 727 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: because I think it is such a high focus sport. 728 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: Interesting because it's like it's actually with the you have 729 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: to go with the wind patterns, you have to go 730 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: with the right hit the style. You have to like 731 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: hit it the spright speed and then slow the speed, 732 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: so there's such attention required. 733 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: I loved it. 734 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: That's why I also love volleyball, because it's play over 735 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: play over. Play is not long term. 736 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: But I feel like right now you're considering badminton from 737 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: the viewpoint of someone that's good at it. Yeah. Absolutely, 738 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: and you're talking to someone I'm very good. Two experts, 739 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: one podcast. I mean, this is what a bargain for everybody. 740 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: Believe it. 741 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: The listener is going, wow, I really. 742 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: Hitn't listener saving so much money they could play badminton? 743 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: No, I mean I haven't played. You don't really get 744 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: opportunities to play badminton. I guess I need to make 745 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: more rich friends. 746 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 4: Not no, because nobody else is really facilitating. But pickleball 747 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: became in vogue a little. 748 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: Bit right which I don't. Again, the ball is hard 749 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: at all, but it's adjacent to this, right, you know, 750 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: I need it to be light, I need it to 751 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: be frothy. 752 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: It's it's sucks that you can't passively do stuff because 753 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 4: then all the rise you have to become the guy 754 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: who plays badminton right to get a single game in? 755 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: Right? 756 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 4: Can you imagine I would actually come over here, new friend, 757 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: and go, hey, we got to talk about this. 758 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: This is weird, this is tough. 759 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: You have a career, you're raid. 760 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: I we can play just like. We don't need to 761 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: make it this big. 762 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: Part of your personality and build. I would love to 763 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: have more opportunities to play badminton and to be on 764 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: a boat, and I don't have any of them. 765 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, which makes me. 766 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: Think I've just got to cut out off my current 767 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: friends and start going to balls and gallas. 768 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: I like the idea of you co opting the language 769 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: of like the people who are like I'm in a 770 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: spiritual awakening. I had to cut off on my friends. 771 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: I had to stuck in the balls gallas. 772 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: I needed to enter a new tax bracket. 773 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: I had to go into the sagmentum raining a little 774 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: bit stunning, and it's not quite where we are. 775 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's so romantic. 776 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: Sorry, this is where I'm dumb as rocks. I said, 777 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: it's not quite where we are. I'm under a roof. 778 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: We are, but I'm under a roof. But he said, 779 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: not quite to us, not quite to us yet, but 780 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: it could. 781 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: Get to us, who knows. I love these posters. This 782 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: one with the hang glider reminds me there was a 783 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: guy that was famous in Utah who ran a computer 784 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: repair or computer business. Who was his name? I think 785 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: it was Dale, Crazy Dale or something super Day No Superdale, 786 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: super Dale. I think the super Dave was so funny, 787 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: but I believe at some point was arrested with his 788 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: hang glider and a gun. It was so I wonder 789 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: what he's up to now, Superdale. I bet you he 790 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: has super deal on. At least that's a very computer 791 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: but not del How embarrassing for him? 792 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: Are you joking? 793 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? 794 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 3: Like farmer in the dell? 795 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: How did we spell? Look at this guy? 796 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: Listeners, I want you to know it's giving like his 797 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: mouth is a black hole. 798 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: He's got bleach tips. 799 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: He's like you forget that they can actually be worn actually, 800 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 4: like naturally bright blonde with blue eyes and he's given like, I'm. 801 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: The party DJ. Is that his mugshot has to be right? 802 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: What's the news story there? Is it? Like? Because I 803 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: think he had a gun at some point and he 804 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: was hang gliding. 805 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: This is so funny he was this is a made. 806 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, super Dell. How embarrassing to be in the computer 807 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: business and not be Dell. Yeah, stranger name. 808 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: That's tough, super but maybe that's why he said I'm 809 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: super Yeah. 810 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: All right, he threw the superin, but that is only 811 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: making things harder. 812 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: But this is actually very interesting me. 813 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: So was he famous as this guy that fixed me 814 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 4: before the gun and the hang glider? 815 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: Yes, he had a bunch of like annoying local commercials. 816 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I totally understand, and. 817 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: Became very famous through those, and then I think the 818 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: hang glider came. 819 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, there's so much to this, like you have 820 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: to know. Okay, So this was just, you know, for 821 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 5: credit's sake. This was posting the Salt Lake Tribune, of course, 822 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 5: August of twenty seventeen. So the seventeen Yeah, the former 823 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 5: Super Dell of local television commercial famous now for chasing 824 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 5: federal misdemeanor criminal charges for allegedly chasing and harassing an owl, 825 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 5: an episode that apparently showed up on YouTube. 826 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Is he chasing the owl on his hang glider. 827 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: Is a different misdemeanor. 828 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 5: Videos posted on YouTube last year showed a paraglider pilot 829 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 5: chasing and kicking an owl. It did not show the 830 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: pilot's face, but was removed from YouTube after it went 831 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 5: because of a copy red plane. 832 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: They're both flying, right. 833 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna get sued by superte. 834 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 5: Oh my god, imagine that we're just reporting this is 835 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 5: we're just we're reading from a. 836 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: Litter and he's actually an agent to silence us. 837 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: I wonder if he's in prison now, Wow, chasing an owl? 838 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: I know sometimes people's language in reporting is so psychotic 839 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 4: because you got which came first? 840 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: Though? 841 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: Was he flying and the owl and he's like this? 842 00:36:52,000 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: Or was he jealous? I didn't have to have a 843 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: machine that she could fly? What did you think he wants? 844 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: The figure of an owl swivels? 845 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: I love that those hips, Mama, big mama, when you're 846 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 4: all the bus No first. 847 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: It seems like the owl one out in the end. 848 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: Good for the owl? 849 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: We don't know that. 850 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: Well, we've got a root for the owl in the 851 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: situation gun. I think the gun may have been a 852 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: separate incident. 853 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: But it's so elmer fud, like I've gotta get a owl. 854 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: You ask owl, literally, at what point could you hunt it? 855 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 3: And owl's mid flight? You just go to a tree? 856 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: Then, right, you don't need to meet them in the air. 857 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: They're going to win. The gun things a separate incident. 858 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: This is someone whose life is totally in control. 859 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 3: I love that. 860 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure his family is intact and everything's normal with 861 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: super Dell. I think we tried to go to his 862 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: house as kids or it's like teens. I think we 863 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: tried to drive by his house. 864 00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: How do it feel? 865 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 2: Felt incredible, but we didn't get to meet him or anything. 866 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: Did you feel like you were like weird? Like it 867 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: was scary. 868 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: If you're putting yourself in a local commercial, you're opening 869 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: yourself to a lot of experience. 870 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: I hear that you're asking for it. 871 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: What you're saying, you're absolutely asking. 872 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 4: Okay, so you're on the record is saying one gay 873 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 4: people are bad and you're asking for it. 874 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: On the side of the perpetrator. This podcast is very pro. 875 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: Important messages today. We're pro owl crime. 876 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: If someone is on your television, you are allowed to 877 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: do whatever you want with them. 878 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: That's content to kill them. 879 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: The school is ringing its bell trying to drown out 880 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: everything I'm saying right now. Well, Super Dell, reach out. 881 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: You could get a book him to them. 882 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: It seems like the type that would be on this poster. 883 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 884 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: Oh, complete, this may be him. 885 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 3: It feels like that. Oh my god, imagine. 886 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: Who knows we're going to have an episode that starts 887 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: with this is a call from the Utah State uh 888 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 2: Correctional Facility. 889 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: This is like like Cereal where it's like. 890 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: Finding Dell, or like yeah, going to Dell. 891 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, this Delta. 892 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 2: No wait, super my life is a living Dell. 893 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's really good. 894 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about like del into another word like Dell delightful. 895 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: Delightful, the Dell. 896 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 3: Lights of a murderer. 897 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: Deal with the Delvile. 898 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's really good. That one's that one's 899 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 3: really good. 900 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: Dell with the Devil, with the del If you go, 901 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 4: why twice, del with the Devil. 902 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: It's just incomprehensible. I love that totally. 903 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 3: It makes me so happy. 904 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: This is uh, it's get in touch with exactly right, 905 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: the network can get the wheels rolling on my new 906 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: podcast today or what for? 907 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: But this, yes, this is. 908 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: The true crime people are begging for. 909 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: If they didn't even know it was hanging in their. 910 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 4: Rooms staring at them the whole time. 911 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: Well, it was in your aunts storage shit. 912 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 3: A little bit maybe maybe protected, and I opened. 913 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 2: You've opened a door that we have to go through 914 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: at this point. 915 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 4: What I like about this feeling right now is that 916 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: I kind of don't have to go through. It's kind 917 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 4: of like I'm like, I'm Bilbo, I'm in a Ryvendale 918 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 4: and I'm going go on your journey, go to more. 919 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm good, you're going. Bilbo had a pretty good deal. 920 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: He had the best deal. He had all of the 921 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: fun and they got to retire in the elf world. 922 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 923 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 3: Ringdale, Yes, Ringdale is the funniest thing you've ever. 924 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: Said, Ringdal, Ring riven Pale, riven. 925 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: Bridge, which I always couldfuse Riverdale. I always say Rivendale, Wow, 926 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: But calling it Ringdale, like it's like where you sell 927 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 4: rings is so funny. 928 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: Yes, but the deal, yeah, sorry, I got excited for that. 929 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: This is I mean, now we're picturing super Dell with 930 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: Elvin heres he's speaking Elvin. 931 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: He could give it l rond Are you howl? Do 932 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: you like fantasy at all? 933 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm not super into it? 934 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 3: Okay? Is there a number one for you? Like a 935 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 3: franchise of Not really? 936 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: No? You know I love the Lord of the Rings movies. Yeah, 937 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: I like the books, but beyond that, I'm not super hardcore. 938 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: I think I could get into it. I'm always looking 939 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: as an adult, especially like I need a book that 940 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: will just totally take over my life. Are you a 941 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 2: fantasy person? 942 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 4: Ah, I'm not written large like I'm not. If there's 943 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: a fantasy thing, I'm not gonna love it. I have 944 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 4: the nostalgia for like the things that I like. I 945 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: love Doctor Who, I love Lord of the Rings. I 946 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: was a big Harry Potter kid. I like love the 947 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: fantasy's space that I grew up with. Right, But I 948 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 4: don't think I'm necessarily like gonna be e psyched for anything. 949 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: It's hard to buy into a new fantasy world as 950 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: an adult. 951 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: I think because you're also just like, oh, they're the 952 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: same themes over and over again. 953 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: Right exactly. And I've already imagined most of these things. 954 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 3: And the language is already in me to use it 955 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: to this, right. 956 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 2: I read most of the I've read actually all of 957 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: the Game of Thrones books. 958 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 3: You know, did you read pre the show coming on? 959 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: During the show? Okay, And my big plaint with Game 960 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: of Thrones has always been, let's throw in another creature. 961 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's dragons, show up. It's a little boring. 962 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 4: That's a really good critique, just because you're you're at 963 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 4: the threshold of fas like you're just why not throw another. 964 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: Come on, there's got to be something else. It's wild 965 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: to look at. 966 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 3: That's an interesting Is. 967 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: There any other other than the the the White Walkers? 968 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 2: But those are kind of zombie going in a certain ways, right, 969 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: there's is there any other creature in that world that's 970 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: ultimately ultimately the author is not doesn't have much of 971 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 2: an imagination, not a creative guy. 972 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 4: George Lewis made like a unicorn. 973 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: You've got a talking. 974 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 3: You've got all of the animals. 975 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: You just have some talking animals, the little bird that 976 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: talks or something different. 977 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 3: Spec you're saying, el it's like a different species. 978 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: Come on, I don't know why he was so restrained 979 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: with just dragons, like an sea creature? 980 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: What stands Game of Thrones. 981 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,479 Speaker 2: Apart from everything, I think it's the language, like the sex, okay, 982 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 2: a lot of sex, and you know, it's darker. 983 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 3: Than Flord the Rings fanfit. 984 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 2: Essentially if Lord of the Rings was embarrassed of how 985 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: dorky it was and then tried to be a little 986 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: bit more mature. 987 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: My god, that nuance is really good. 988 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 989 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 3: It had that. It's a little bit of embarrassment and had. 990 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 4: That because it is what you're saying, where it's the 991 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 4: slight performance of this is sexy, yes, and it's not 992 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 4: exactly embodied right. 993 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: Not able to throw itself entirely into let's just have 994 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: something with long pointy. 995 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 4: Years, yeah, or let them just fuck. It's like and 996 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 4: the circumstances make it so butter it's just don't have 997 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 4: to fuck? 998 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, buddy, Yeah, if that's your fan, Yeah, yeah, 999 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've got I've got issues, I've got notes, 1000 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: and the series is not over. So I feel like 1001 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 2: George R. Or Martin Can he did the finish, he's 1002 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: still got two books to write. He's uh, you know, 1003 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 2: it's I'm not a hardcore fan thing, god, but I 1004 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of his fans are like mean 1005 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: to him at this point. I feel like there was 1006 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 2: a video recently that he was at a conference and 1007 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: somebody like raised their hand and was like, are you 1008 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: going to ride it before you die? 1009 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: Well, that can, I'd be really honest with you. 1010 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 4: The whole wasn't the whole stick And like I remember 1011 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 4: hearing this in twenty eleven because I was at my 1012 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 4: Strathmore apartment in Boston and someone was like, do you 1013 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 4: know that he had to tell producers how it ends 1014 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 4: in case he dies before? Okay, so we're like fifteen 1015 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 4: years later and my guys like, what are we doing? 1016 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 1017 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure does he know how it ends? 1018 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 2: That's the big question. 1019 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 4: It's giving, like, oh I feel bad. It's giving like 1020 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: it's going to be a big deal. It's a big 1021 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 4: brother as a present, like he has no idea. 1022 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: Nobody and uh. I think people were really upset with 1023 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 2: how the TV series ended. Really, I think they kind 1024 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: of absolutely dropped the ball in a lot of ways. 1025 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: Wasn't he a part of that? 1026 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: I think he kind of became less and less involved, Okay, 1027 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: and then it's just kind of a disaster. 1028 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: That's tough. People can't land the planes. 1029 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to land a plane. 1030 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 3: But it's the most important part because it affects the 1031 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 3: entire memory of the rime. 1032 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: You know how you're going to land a plane before 1033 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: you get it in the air. But some people get 1034 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: a little excited and just get going. And then I 1035 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: feel like those books. Actually, I think you read the 1036 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 2: first three and it feels like, oh, this could have 1037 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 2: just been it. And then I think he got a 1038 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: little excited and just kept going. 1039 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:21,720 Speaker 3: It's tough. 1040 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, is there anything left to say about our 1041 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: beautiful posters? 1042 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 3: Do they feel inspiring to you? 1043 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 2: Of course I've inspired three times. 1044 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 3: Well, besides dude to find a killer. 1045 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 2: I've got so much going on in my life. 1046 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 4: Now. 1047 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: I've got a new podcast I have to launch. I 1048 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: have to track down the sky in prison or potentially 1049 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: deal with his lawsuits. 1050 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 3: You have to avenge an owl. 1051 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: I have to avenge. I may have to learn learn 1052 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 2: to hang glide. 1053 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just happy. I want you to be inspired. 1054 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled about these. I'm going to put these back 1055 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: in the tubes so I can access my computer. Here. 1056 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: You good luck, because I'll be honest. 1057 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 4: I had to read fope to get those all into 1058 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 4: one this morning, not last night. Literally, you should see 1059 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 4: me with a little roll and then I had to 1060 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 4: tighten the other one and go. 1061 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 3: So good luck. 1062 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: They were very neatly wrapped. I was impressed. Well, I 1063 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 2: think we should play a game. I can't wait. We're 1064 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse. But 1065 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 1066 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: Nine. 1067 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some like calculating to get 1068 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 2: our game pieces right now so you can promote, recommend, 1069 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 1070 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Hello, Quti Bears, it's just me now. Wow, things 1071 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 3: are going to be a little different from now on. Okay, 1072 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 3: I'm kidding. 1073 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 4: You could listen to my podcast Worse They with Mofi 1074 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 4: Passic Good get production. Listen where you listen. It's very fun. 1075 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 4: I interview people about their creative process. I'd like to 1076 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 4: talk more abstractly instead of wake up the morning pages 1077 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 4: more like you know that song you listen to when 1078 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 4: you're seven, maybe inspired you to then learn how to 1079 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 4: listen to music different that sort of stuff. 1080 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 3: Love you, You're perfect in every way. 1081 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 4: I bet you looked in the mirror today or you didn't, 1082 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 4: And I want you to look through my eyes and 1083 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 4: guess what I'm looking at the best personal live and 1084 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 4: it's you. 1085 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm still chilling here. I think I promoted me. I'm 1086 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 3: cool butt it. 1087 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: I hate to cut some that was so beautiful and lovely. 1088 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: Everyone go listen to most podcasts. 1089 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 4: I hope and I can't wait to hear your process. 1090 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 4: I opeen to get to break down and break it down. 1091 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: With you, break it down. I would love to and yes, 1092 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 2: I would love that because it's Look at this rain. 1093 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 3: People need to know. 1094 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 4: It's the type of rain that's like a seattle wash. 1095 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 4: Like it's like a subtle. 1096 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 2: It's so soft. Yeah, I really love it. It's kind of 1097 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: at an angle. Yeah, it's not pounding, and we might 1098 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 2: hear it on the mic. Maybe hopefully the listener will 1099 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 2: be able to enjoy a little bit of that rain. 1100 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 3: We're taking to Hawaii. 1101 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're off to Hawaii. We're on our hang gliders. 1102 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 2: We're chasing on the owl to the islands. Okay, this 1103 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 2: is how we play gift or a Curse. I'm going 1104 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 2: to name three things. You'll tell me if there are 1105 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: a gift or a curse and why then I'll tell 1106 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 2: if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. 1107 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 3: All right, speaking of curses. 1108 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of curses. Yeah, first one is from a listener 1109 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 2: named Caitlin Gift or a curse speakerphone. 1110 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 3: To be on the phone a speaker yes, curse? 1111 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 2: Why? 1112 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 3: Okay? 1113 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I don't want to put my 1114 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 4: little grubby phone to my ears, so I don't. 1115 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to be doing that. 1116 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 4: And so you're thinking, great, it's a gift, and no, 1117 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 4: it's not at all, because it's a curse. Because acoustics 1118 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 4: into space, people sharing the info you're around. It's also 1119 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: that sort of like people in an uber that get 1120 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,479 Speaker 4: on their speakerphone and I'm like, there's a stranger right here. 1121 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: There's a stranger right here, and I like and part 1122 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 4: of me is going like, do you want them to 1123 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 4: hear the contacts on the other side of your car? 1124 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 4: I don't. 1125 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 1126 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: That's okay, correct? Yes, correct, Yeah, you're nailed it. I 1127 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: mean it seems like it should really work. Right. This 1128 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 2: is the thing with speakerphone for me, and I've only 1129 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: realized this in the past couple of years. It makes 1130 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,479 Speaker 2: me mad at whoever I'm talking to because the sound 1131 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: it's loud, it's obnoxious sounding, it's tinning, and it puts 1132 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 2: me on edge with whoever i'm talking to. Neeled it 1133 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: it's like, it's not that the intimacy of putting it 1134 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: to your ear, it's this, uh, I don't know, it 1135 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: feels like they're yelling at you. 1136 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 4: Well then you physically like almost going to cover the 1137 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 4: phone because it's like it just feels it doesn't feel 1138 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 4: like it's for you. It is opening the space up 1139 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 4: and they're not there. 1140 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, yeah, it's uh not for me. 1141 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 4: It's helpful to clock the anger because I sometimes it 1142 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 4: is like. 1143 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 2: There's something like subconsciously that's happening you're hearing. It's the 1144 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: noise is making you a little edgy. 1145 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 4: I think what it's like when someone's phone's breaking up 1146 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 4: and it's like we're breaking up and I know it's 1147 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 4: not their fault, but I'm. 1148 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's the exact thing, so we've got to 1149 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: They should just remove that feature from phones. 1150 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: I love that, love that black and white think. 1151 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: Yes, all right. The second one is from a listener 1152 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 2: named Colin Gift her a curse Milkshakes. 1153 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 4: Collin spills up with two l's a little freak, Yeah, 1154 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: I felt it all right, Well, a gift for a 1155 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 4: curt Okay, Milkshakes, I'm uncomfortably going to say gift. 1156 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 3: Why, I don't want to say gift, but it is. 1157 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 4: Milkshakes are a gift because listen, in a world of 1158 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 4: cookies and brownies and cakes and frostings, those that world, 1159 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 4: in a world of that, right, milkshake is this psychotic thing. 1160 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 4: And I'm Midwestern, like you're gonna have a dairy with 1161 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 4: the dairy, with the dairy. It's this thing where it's 1162 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 4: like sometimes you can order it as you're drink with 1163 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 4: your burger at certain places, but sometimes it can be 1164 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 4: like a long sort of dessert that's personal that you 1165 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 4: don't have to share. It's not like sharing ice cream, 1166 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 4: which is disgusting because it's like, I'm sorry, like the 1167 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 4: suspension of your spit and that creamy, viscous fluid and 1168 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 4: then I'm just disgusting. 1169 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 3: So and it's personal. 1170 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 4: So despite feeling like anyone being bloated and drinking that 1171 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 4: much dairy is a curse to be around, I do 1172 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 4: think they themselves are gifts. 1173 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, before I even get to my answer. 1174 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: You really landed on something here with sharing dairy with 1175 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 2: another person. Let's talk, there's something so I'll let somebody 1176 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 2: like drink my water, drink my soda whatever, but if, like, 1177 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: if there's a dairy element to the drink, it's got 1178 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 2: to be in a separate glass. Right. Yes, it feels 1179 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 2: so dirty. 1180 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 3: It's disgusting, and I think it's because the viscosity. 1181 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes that's exactly what's happening. 1182 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 3: It's disgusting. 1183 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 2: It's taking the spit right into it and becoming part 1184 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 2: of the beverage. 1185 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 4: It's and you could even see it's like, oh, it's 1186 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 4: brutal so like intimate, yes, in a way where I'm like, 1187 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, no, no. 1188 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 2: No, yes, there's wow. You really I've always wondered why 1189 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 2: I felt like that was such a weird thing to do. 1190 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,399 Speaker 3: Had you felt that, Yeah. 1191 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately you're wrong. I know it was. I love 1192 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 2: a good milkshake, but we've got to land on a 1193 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 2: consistency for milkshakes. 1194 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 3: Consistency is your issue. 1195 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 2: I'm often you'll order a milkshake and you'll be served 1196 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: a thing you cannot drink. You're if it comes with 1197 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 2: a spoon. This is not to me a milkshake, and 1198 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 2: that needs to be either classified as something else or 1199 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,959 Speaker 2: the restaurant. 1200 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 3: You're like humiliatingly sucking down the. 1201 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 2: Herd and I just don't. I feel like I could 1202 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: never count on a milkshake unless I know and trust 1203 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 2: the place and so and then I feel like a 1204 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 2: lot of fast food places are kind of cheaping out 1205 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: on the milkshakes. There would be a crummy ice cream, 1206 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: and I want them to be as good as possible, 1207 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 2: and it's a it's a big investment in a dessert. 1208 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 4: The unspoken here, though, is like the constant attempts you're 1209 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 4: making and having a milkshake experience that not a lot 1210 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 4: of people are doing. And there's such an endearing adoration 1211 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 4: of milkshakes in that because not all of us are 1212 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 4: trying and going. 1213 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 2: You wouldn't believe the amount of milkshakes I drink also 1214 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: kind of like absolute poison for your body, the amount 1215 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 2: of ice cream you're consuming when you're drinking a milkshake. 1216 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 4: I remember one time we went it was like it 1217 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 4: was God, it was like sixth grade and this like 1218 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 4: it was when they were starting. 1219 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 3: To introduce calories on menus, and I looked, and I 1220 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 3: was so confused. 1221 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 4: I think it was like Ruby Tuesday, because I had 1222 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 4: gotten like we'd gotten before, which is the case ida 1223 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 4: as an advertiser. And then of course I got in 1224 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 4: like a burger or something, and then I gotten like 1225 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 4: Manzarelli sticks, and then I got I love this course 1226 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 4: I was an athlete. And then I got my own 1227 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 4: big like milkshake. I remember the milkshake was two thousand calories, 1228 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 4: and my brain was like, wait, that's all I'm just 1229 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 4: to have in a day. Wait a minute, Oh no, 1230 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 4: it's like you probably shouldn't be having that is the drink. 1231 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: It's truly like emergency recovery foods. It's like that should 1232 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: only be served in hospital for people are like, we've 1233 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 2: got to get something into this body. And then having 1234 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: one a week. 1235 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 3: You're having one a week. Oh my god, you really 1236 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 3: love milkshakes. 1237 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 2: I love milkshakes. 1238 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 3: Wait, my heart's broken that it's a curse though. 1239 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 2: That's when I get a bad one. I'll say, like 1240 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 2: in and out their milkshakes no good. 1241 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 3: Okay. Is it because of their firm No. 1242 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: It's because they're there. It's the flavor. The flavor is 1243 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 2: not right. The chocolate doesn't taste like chocolate. 1244 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually because malts. That's not get into molts. 1245 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a whole other category. 1246 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 3: But people think that's chocolate. 1247 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: Malt is not chocolate. It's not. It's going to add 1248 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 2: a layer to a chocolate, sure, but you simply can't 1249 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 2: think it's a chocolate. 1250 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 3: I think you would respect. Have you ever been to 1251 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 3: a Culver's. 1252 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: I've been to one culver Is a long time ago, 1253 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 2: and it was kind of depressing inside. I don't know, 1254 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 2: people love you're speaking demon language. 1255 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 3: I have no idea. It's one of the best plays 1256 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 3: on Earth. 1257 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 2: It was like perfectly clean everything, but there was a 1258 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 2: sadness in the air. 1259 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 3: Mister Dell was in the corner. 1260 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I was just so. Maybe I was too excited 1261 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 2: to try because I had heard such good things about 1262 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 2: the milkshake. 1263 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 4: Or maybe I go to your home and there's happiness. 1264 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 4: But I'm in a culver Is my whole life. 1265 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 2: But it's very successful in the Midwest. 1266 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't think it's expanded much. 1267 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 2: Well, they've made it to Utah. Oh good for them, 1268 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 2: which I believe is the inter Mountain West. 1269 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a spread because they have what I 1270 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 4: think you might respect is something called concretes concrete where 1271 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 4: it's like technically. 1272 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 3: The milkshake, but in the offer milkshakes as well. Center. 1273 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 3: But they're telling you the consistency. 1274 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 2: Yes, this is the concrete you eat with a spoon. 1275 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 1276 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 4: And I like that they're communicating that. They're not saying 1277 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 4: this is a milkshake. 1278 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: Right, because that happens a lot miscommunication. Well, and on 1279 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 2: the East Coast it gets even more confusing because they 1280 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 2: often call them FRAPs. 1281 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 3: That's the worst friendlies does that? 1282 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 2: Just where did the word what? 1283 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 3: It's so weird. 1284 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: It's so weird, right because that has kind of been 1285 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,720 Speaker 2: co opted by Starbucks. 1286 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 4: And you also don't literally it's probably based on the 1287 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 4: blender and nobody presses frap for that. 1288 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 3: You're not even frapping it. 1289 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 2: I think you only frap an orange Julius. 1290 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 3: Say the fuck that. That's a amazing truth. The only 1291 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: thing that you should be frapping, don't know it's Julius. 1292 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 3: I love that. Do you like the sidecar. 1293 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 2: Oh with a milkshake? Yeah? I love it. It's a 1294 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 2: little icy to get even more of the tastes. 1295 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's really good. Where are you getting that 1296 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: these days though? 1297 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: In Utah, I know leather Bees. Sorry what it's called 1298 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 2: leather Bees? And I thought you said leather beast, leather bet. 1299 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 3: That's a whole like, no, you shouldn't go there versus dark. 1300 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: It's a very dark bar in Utah, serves milkshake. 1301 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 3: Sounds an incredible cologne. 1302 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: It's called leather Bees. It's a very family friendly restaurant 1303 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 2: with terrible overhead lighting. 1304 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 3: And it took from Apples No way. 1305 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: Wait what about apples bees Bees? Oh b y b 1306 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 2: y apostrophe. Yes, it's maybe a family name. But they 1307 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 2: serve an excellent milkshake. But they need to turn down 1308 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,439 Speaker 2: the lights everybody. You go in there and you're like, oh, 1309 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 2: we all look terrible. 1310 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 3: But is it a fast food place. 1311 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: It's more of a like a little scream parlor. Okay, 1312 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 2: you have a waiter. 1313 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so just. 1314 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 2: Turn off the overhead lights and get a few lamps. 1315 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 3: We're taking a small business. 1316 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 2: They can take it all right. Well, you've gotten one right, 1317 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: one wrong. Okay, this is the final one. If I 1318 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 2: can get into my computer here. 1319 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: I know I got one wrong. We have to believe me. 1320 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 3: I am a very good student as well, I have 1321 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,439 Speaker 3: high IQ. 1322 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 2: Here comes Bonnie. Bonnie is entering the picture for a moment. Bonnie, 1323 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: she must be desperate to come out. She's entering trying 1324 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 2: to get the recording equipment. Oh oh, thank you. Bonnie 1325 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: is trying to turn mow into a toy as well. 1326 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 3: I got to scrunchy on. That's very toy esque. 1327 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh wow. The interactions that community the world is having 1328 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: with us. 1329 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 3: Right now in the fine and they want to join in. 1330 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: Huh. 1331 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 2: Super Dell is going to land in his a glider 1332 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 2: and shoot me. 1333 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 3: Also, the intro to your thing is go and go. 1334 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 3: He's gonna come in his egg. 1335 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 2: Wow. If he's not in prison, he should do the parody. 1336 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,919 Speaker 3: Imagine. 1337 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 1338 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 3: I was just kind of. 1339 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 2: Like, what I feel that, Super Dell. Okay, well let's 1340 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 2: see here. We'll wait for. 1341 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 3: What Bonnie after? 1342 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 2: Who's she named after? Just we like the name I 1343 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 2: wanted to name. I actually wanted to name her Ronnie, 1344 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: after Ronnie Specter because I love, but Jim didn't want her. 1345 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 2: Our last dog at Edie was frequently called Eddie, and 1346 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 2: Jim's like, she's a little girl and she wants her 1347 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 2: to be a little girl. For reason, Bonnie, and Bonnie's 1348 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 2: a sweet name. 1349 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 3: Because there's so many good associations. It's fun. 1350 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot of good Bonnie's and I think 1351 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 2: it means beautiful, Oh does it? Baby? Yeah? Honlys is 1352 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: basically confirming experiencelander. That's all you need. 1353 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 4: Also, my friend, I have a I have a fake 1354 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 4: Dalmatian in my house and he's named bone Chance Eddie 1355 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 4: because b o any chance good luck and then so 1356 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 4: it's bone Bony could be sometimes as a fun yeah, 1357 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 4: just pitching on some really incredible stuff. 1358 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 3: Here, give me that curse. 1359 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 2: Yes, all right? The final one or two different people 1360 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 2: submitted this Hannah and Kristen gift to a curse. Foaming 1361 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 2: hand soap. 1362 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 4: Hannah and Kristen, okay, girls, you should get talk to 1363 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 4: colin Foaming hand soap. I would identify it as a gift. 1364 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 4: I understand people think, what is it like? It's not 1365 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 4: a nitrates. It's the word in all those shampoos. Now, 1366 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 4: you can't fake I understand. 1367 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 3: You know. 1368 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 4: It couldn't get chaotic as well if you have no 1369 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 4: sort of portion control. But it is identifying how much 1370 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 4: soap you do have any visual quick way, especially if 1371 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 4: you're in a like, if you're in like a coffee 1372 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 4: sho house, you don't you don't want to spend a 1373 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 4: long time washing or whatever. 1374 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 3: You go, like, let me see you did it? Get soap? 1375 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1376 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 3: I got soap? 1377 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 4: But this is I'm bad at context because are you 1378 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,479 Speaker 4: talking about the one that goes automatically and gives you a. 1379 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Wisp of Oh? Interesting? I think it's all we know 1380 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,479 Speaker 2: is it's a It ends up foam on your hand, and. 1381 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: It doesn't start a foam. It works into a form. 1382 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, whatever the little dispenser is doing, there's foam in there. 1383 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how foam. Hence you're asking the wrong person. 1384 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 3: I'm difficult, though, I like, I like in my whole life. 1385 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't answer that because I don't really 1386 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 3: hire contact the podcast. Literally they're like, do you like this? 1387 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't know what day is it? Uh? 1388 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 3: We never talk again? 1389 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Delete the audio. 1390 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 3: Foaming soap. 1391 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 4: I hate him, Okay, I actually can you know what 1392 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 4: I say? 1393 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,919 Speaker 3: Because of this experience, because of this chaos. 1394 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Curse, curse. 1395 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 3: Wrong, I know I felt it. 1396 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 2: It's a gift. The slimy stuff has gotta go. Sure, 1397 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 2: it's I like either a foam or have you ever 1398 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 2: used the gritty powder? 1399 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 3: That's awful. 1400 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 2: That stuff's very interesting. It's almost no, it's like almost 1401 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 2: like exfoliating. I think it's more used like by mechanics. 1402 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 2: Why are you well at my dad's work, there are 1403 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 2: mechanics there, and as a kid, you'd go in and 1404 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 2: use this powder and as a child has a beautiful 1405 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 2: citrus smell. It was almost like rubbing sand all over 1406 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: your head. 1407 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 4: But it makes sense because also it's oil and you 1408 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 4: have to absorb an oil agent with a. 1409 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 2: Right yes, yeah, So the slime's gotta go. We're done 1410 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 2: with the slime. We're doing foam or grit only. 1411 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 3: What do you have in your home? 1412 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 2: Foam? You do well? Because here's my probably lying but foam. 1413 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 2: I love that. 1414 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 4: I support you lie to me. But my thing is 1415 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 4: there is not a diversity, like if I want to 1416 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 4: get like a little chic like aceup sort of thing, 1417 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 4: they don't have a foamy agent. 1418 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Right, A doesn't do the phone? Are do you think 1419 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 2: as a fancy soap or past ASoP? Now as it's 1420 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 2: it's done, it's taking its place. 1421 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 3: It's a boutique. 1422 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh really like very low yeah. 1423 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: Because I think ASP was a part of the era 1424 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 4: of like the millennial outdoor versus soul cycle. 1425 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Yes, sweet green right, no longer like a symbol like. 1426 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 3: It use it was a disposable income symbol. 1427 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Yes, So now people are like, we're over it. 1428 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 4: And it can't stay in the same way like Loabo 1429 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 4: does because the labo's scent itself is unique and good. 1430 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 4: Right where is AP is nice but just fresh? 1431 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: Right? Wow? 1432 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 4: Do you like? 1433 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 2: What do I like? I kind of, I kind of 1434 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 2: don't have any particular favorites, to be honest, I'm trying 1435 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 2: to think. I like a laugh and I like a 1436 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 2: a woodsy woodsy and citrusy sandal wood. Yeah, I love that. 1437 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 2: I like crazy about a tobacco. 1438 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 3: I really like it. 1439 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 2: Do you like a tobacco? 1440 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 4: I laughed so hard I almost during this for a 1441 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 4: sale the tom Ford sent I like that they took 1442 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 4: forever to release. It's like called black lacquer okay, and 1443 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 4: it's like smoke tobaccoly smell. And then I put it 1444 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 4: in my cart. 1445 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: It was like, this is like a volatile agent. 1446 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 4: It will have to be ground delivered, it said, And 1447 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 4: I think it's probably just certain perfumes, but it reminded 1448 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 4: me of the scene in Anchorman when Paul Red's character. 1449 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 2: You've never seen that movie. 1450 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 3: I think you'd have fun. 1451 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 2: I should give it a shot. 1452 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 3: Are you of that? Did you like that era of movies? 1453 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? 1454 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 4: The Appatael Farrell two thousand and five to twenty eleven vibes. 1455 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm up and down on them, but I feel like 1456 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: this one I might be into. I think you're goofy. 1457 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 3: It's very goofy. 1458 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 4: But I think if you're into goofy, unless like I 1459 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 4: think other guys, is the starter kit for someone like you? 1460 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I liked other guys are liking other. 1461 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 3: Okay, great, I think that's the good starter. 1462 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were going to say the volatile agent. 1463 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Paul Red's character has like black panther, this 1464 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 4: like cent that they have to come. 1465 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 3: It's like a bio agent essentially. 1466 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 2: And the ladies love it. 1467 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Then they have to hose him. 1468 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 2: Down, lie or something. 1469 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a tobacco flavor. 1470 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 2: Well you got it's a curse or I mean it's 1471 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 2: a gift to whoop ooo everything. 1472 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 4: I think we're all winning in the end, We're all 1473 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 4: God stayed in Oh my god. 1474 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 3: What if this is the sort of a poster company. 1475 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and a podcast. We're sitting on a 1476 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 2: gold mine here, my god, I'm sick. All right. I 1477 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: think we should answer a listener question. We hope me 1478 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 2: answer question absolutely. People writing in or sending voice notes 1479 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 2: to I said no gifts at gmail dot com. This 1480 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 2: is Bridger and Guest. I need your help. I need 1481 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 2: to buy a gift for my ninety year old Croatian grandma. 1482 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 3: You are it's perfect? 1483 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 2: Wow, this is incredible. Yes, she doesn't need any more clutter. 1484 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 2: She can't really drive anywhere on her own anymore. And 1485 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 2: I live far away and she will be upset if 1486 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 2: I spend too much on postage. She always checks the 1487 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 2: postage and she is not tech savvy. What should I do? 1488 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Please help? And that's from Brassy, your Croatian. 1489 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 4: Well, I so I literally know all these like yet 1490 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 4: one migrate out my rose? Who those I belonged to 1491 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 4: the way Croatians love postage? 1492 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 2: I have. 1493 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 3: I have every postage. 1494 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 4: Stamp from every era at every increment of money. 1495 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 3: Do you think that is scarcity? I don't know. 1496 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 4: Interesting, but I think I have a perfect gift. But 1497 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 4: I want you to pitch first. 1498 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 2: Okay, it's no clutter, not tech savvy and hates expensive 1499 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:35,959 Speaker 2: postage and no clutter. 1500 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 3: I'm assuming because she already has nick nacks. 1501 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Galore of there, so it's got to be light yeah, small. 1502 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 2: She's ninety, so I'm trying to think of something. You 1503 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 2: know I got on this podcast recently, was a head 1504 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 2: massage or one of the ones that's made of all 1505 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 2: the little wires. 1506 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 3: Nice, they're like so like a sensory. 1507 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Fantastic, except for at ninety can you reach now? 1508 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 3: There is talking. 1509 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 2: Use grandma and she's far away, so we don't quite 1510 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 2: know how far is she just far away, which so 1511 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: not creative. 1512 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 4: And she doesn't like if you spend too much money 1513 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 4: on post right, so it can't be. 1514 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Too heavy, So we've got to assume maybe a dollar 1515 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 2: postage max. 1516 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,439 Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's actually crazy that you can only write 1517 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 3: a letter. 1518 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's got to be a meaningful letter. 1519 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 4: Well, okay, I can add to this, so I think 1520 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 4: one of you know, the lavender speaking of saying in Croatia, 1521 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 4: what we used to do in all of my great 1522 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 4: aunts and all my other aunts homes and closets is 1523 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 4: they would put they would press lavender and like almost 1524 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 4: like little popo rebags. They would put it in every 1525 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,919 Speaker 4: closet of Croatian lavender. And so you'd find these little 1526 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 4: bags everywhere and like in the closets of Croatian lavender. 1527 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 4: And so they could press lavender into like a book 1528 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 4: or something and just give that like creation lavender, right, 1529 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 4: or they could put it in like a little poop 1530 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 4: rebag that she could put in her closet and to 1531 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 4: have like the yesteryear smell. 1532 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. 1533 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 3: It feels light descent. 1534 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, light easy. If that's too much work, maybe a 1535 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 2: stick of gum. 1536 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so nice, easy peasy. Because she 1537 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 4: doesn't have teeth, it doesn't hurt. 1538 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Send her a life saving. 1539 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 4: Wait can I say something? Yeah, I was listening to PREP. 1540 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 4: I was listening to a podcast that you did on 1541 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 4: this podcast and you indicated at one point in your 1542 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 4: life you were having half a stick of gum, and 1543 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 4: I got I was listening with that's like, that's crazy, that's. 1544 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: That's resourceful, because how do you does it disintegrate? 1545 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm buying the highest quality gum. 1546 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 4: You're too rate like what like a two per hour 1547 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 4: like that was what the hell it worked for me. 1548 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 3: I'm so glad it organically came up. 1549 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Worked for me. I now that you're bringing it up 1550 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 2: in such a nasty. 1551 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 5: Way, Yes, we are contentious, don't you forget it? 1552 01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 2: I might go back to half a stick. 1553 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 1554 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Although I'm no longer using stick gum, I'm using because 1555 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,919 Speaker 2: I carry my gum in my purse and I hate 1556 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 2: when the uh sticks get out and go crazy and 1557 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 2: canteel on stuff worse, so I put it. You know, 1558 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm getting a dente ice, okay, And there's no true 1559 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 2: I mean, if I was choosing half of that, that 1560 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,799 Speaker 2: would be crazy. All the cops bite. 1561 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,959 Speaker 3: Fold it back up real nice, and it's a little tinfoil. 1562 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 2: No. I was doing a half piece for a long 1563 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 2: time and swallowing every piece of it. 1564 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 4: I have a question, well, because my grandma was when 1565 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 4: she'd have a cigarette in the garage, we'd get a 1566 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 4: piece of gum, and if there's two of my sister 1567 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 4: and I right, she would split it. 1568 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 3: I thought the Sheik thing to do. 1569 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 4: If you have to split gum is to rip it 1570 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 4: when it's still in the foil, or do you rip 1571 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 4: it ah. 1572 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 2: In the foil. Absolutely, snap it in half, snap it like, 1573 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 2: fold it in half and then rip. So it's nice 1574 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 2: and even like you're like your bum loose leaf. Yes, 1575 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 2: exactly exactly, And now I can't wait to restart my 1576 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 2: life as someone who choose half a piece of gum. 1577 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 4: But I like it because it's kind of intimate for 1578 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 4: me because I know you're doing it in resistance to me. 1579 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, every time there will just because I'll be 1580 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 2: chewing an anger violent. Okay, well I think the potpourri 1581 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 2: or again half, Now we're downgrading half a piece of 1582 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 2: gum in an envelop and maybe just quick love your grandma. Yeah, 1583 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 2: and then she can't. I mean, if the grandma complains, 1584 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 2: she's created this trap for herself. I off the complaints. 1585 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 3: I think it's a grandma because you can write a letter. 1586 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 4: What if you tried to write a letter in like 1587 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 4: her native ties. I think effort and into thoughtfulness when 1588 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 4: you can't have weight or tech right, or like maybe 1589 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 4: a posted card from a place she used to be, like, 1590 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 4: did you just have the thing nostalgically right? You should 1591 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 4: a restaurant she liked to go. 1592 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 2: You're trying to bring this grandma to tears. 1593 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to feel. 1594 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 2: They got a lot of war in their blood. 1595 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to cry it out. I'm happy to 1596 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: do that. 1597 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think the grandma's going to be happy. I 1598 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 2: hope to ruin a grandma's birthday. 1599 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 3: That's fine. She didn't care. 1600 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 2: She said she spent her enough. 1601 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 3: Yes, she forgot. I think you're too much. 1602 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 2: Well, we answered the question perfectly. I have three gorgeous posters, 1603 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 2: and I've had a lovely time with you. 1604 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 3: I'm truly having the time of my life. 1605 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 2: And look now I have to send you home in 1606 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 2: the rain. 1607 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 3: I've had is devis. I didn't bring up Brella. 1608 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I do have an umbrella. Maybe I'll go 1609 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 2: grab it and bring take you to your car. Would 1610 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 2: you like that? 1611 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 3: That'll me kind of nice. 1612 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 2: Well, let's end the podcast. The listener in the podcast 1613 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 2: is over. We've got to deal with the rain. I 1614 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 2: love you, goodbye, I said no Gifts is an exactly 1615 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 2: right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and 1616 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 2: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme 1617 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 2: song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't 1618 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 2: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner, you must follow 1619 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 2: the show on Instagram, and I said, no gifts. That's 1620 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,440 Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful 1621 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? 1622 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 1623 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 3: When you're I. 1624 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: Guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty. 1625 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: And I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough that 1626 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff. 1627 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 2: So how do you 1628 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 3: Dare to surbey me