1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Caf I. I am six forty. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 3: Doug mcatarre in for John and Ken, and we're here 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: till four o'clock. Chris Merrill will be in for Tim 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: Conway Junior. It's obviously Labor Day and if you are 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: working your way back home from wherever you were, I 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: hope you make good time in traffic and you don't 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: burn up too much gas, meaning your money. Let's talk 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: about this hour. Actress Penny Piterer will join us. She 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: was and all the President's men, the in law's Frisco kid, 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff, including shameless lots of stuff. And 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: she's going to talk about the say After strike, the 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: WGA strike, and all the other strikes by the way 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: that are swirling around us, including the hotel workers, the 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: healthcare workers, etc. 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: On this labor. 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 3: Day and why that might be so difficult, Plus her 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: upcoming show at the Stephanie Fury Theater called Sonnas from Suburbia. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: So we'll get into all that this hour, plus things 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: my grand father wouldn't understand about the world in which 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: we live today, So we'll. 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 4: Get into all of that. 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: But you know, one of the big events of this 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 3: weird summer has been Barbie Heimer. 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 4: As you know, talk to death. 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: The film Barbie, which may turn out to be I 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: think it already is the largest grossing film in the 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: history of Warner Brothers, which is saying so they've been 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: making movies over there for a long time. And by 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: the way, the success of Barbie has softened the blow 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: of the strikes, because Warner Brothers have been taken in 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: so much pink dollars from Barbie that certainly cushions the 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: blow from all the other losses that they're taking in production, etc. Meanwhile, 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: the other half of the phenomenon of the theaters this 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: summer has been the movie Oppenheimer. And it became this 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: kind of kish thing to go to both movies in 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: one day called Barbieheimer. You go see Barbie and then 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: you go see Oppenheimer, or you do it the other 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: way around, using Barbie as a palate cleanser f of 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: the heaviness of Oppenheimer. And that's what a lot of 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: people were doing. And Oppenheimer's three Hours, by the way, 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: I saw it yesterday. The wife and I went to 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: see it yesterday and if you don't know, Oppenheimer is 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: named after the physicist who is considered to be the 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: father of the atomic bomb, Robert Oppenheimer. Now there were 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: hundreds and thousands and thousands of people who worked on it, 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: but he certainly was the guiding light that managed to 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: produce a functional nuclear weapon in a very short period 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: of time that ended the Second World War. Whether you 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: like it or not, that's exactly what history records, and 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: literally is one of the most ethical events in the 53 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: history of mankind. 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 4: So we went to see it. 55 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: By the way, the movie is only a little bit 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: shorter than the time it took to develop the atomic 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: weapon by the time you watch the trailers. 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: Holy mackerel. 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: But it was well worth seeing. I think the movie's 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: nothing short or brilliant. Christopher Nolan deserves every award he's 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: going to get for it. It's an amazing piece of work, 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: very complicated, very adult story, important story that raises in 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: nuanced fashion, important issues. It's not coming down, it's not 64 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: too judgy in the terms that decisions were being made 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: to get an atomic weapon before Hitler did, and then 66 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: the decision that whether to use it or not was 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: a moral decision that was batted around by people very 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: seriously in real time. In nineteen forty five, with Hitler 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: dead in the bunker, there was a real discussion amongst 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: the scientists and the nation's leaders of whether or not 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: it should be used on Japan, given that Japan was 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: likely to be defeated through conventional means, until people started 73 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: to put pencil to paper and talk about what the 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: reality of an invasion of the mainland islands of Japan 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: would represent, not just to the American soldiers, but to 76 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: the people of Japan. So the decision was made by 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: Harry Truman to go forward with the atomic bombing. And 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: we live in Oppenheimer's world. We live in the physicist world. 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: Who created this new awesome power that has the ability 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: to be used for peaceful means, including in medicine, But 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: obviously the destructive force of it is incredible, and we 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: live with that absolutely right at this very moment. We 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: don't want to think about it very much. But the 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: Russians continue to shake the nuclear sabers. They rattle those 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: nuclear missiles at us constantly now in the event of 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: the invasion of Ukraine, including just like two days ago. 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: More on Russian state television basically threatening the West with 88 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: nuclear weapons, and then you've got North Korea, and then 89 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: you've got the threat of Iran, and then you've got 90 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: the threat of terrorism getting their hands on a dirty bombs. 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: This is something that is a very. 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: Real and present danger that maybe naively we thought we 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: had put in the rear view mirror. After the wall 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: came down, we thought there was going to be a 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: peace dividend. I remember being a kid at the nineteen 96 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: sixty four New York World's Fair where they had a 97 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: bomb shelter exhibit. You know, you could go in and 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: you could buy a bomb shelter that they didn't stall 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: in your backyard. By the way, there's a company off 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: the five Freeway that still makes them. There's a big 101 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: sign there you can order your bomb shelter and have 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: it put in your backyard. And I always wondered what 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: people did with those. Do they turn them into wine 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: cellars or they bed and breakfast? You know, that is 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: that way they put their mother in law. They don't 106 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: like her. You can go live in the bomb shelter, 107 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: just stay out of my But I do remember being 108 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: in this bomb shelter as a little kid with my 109 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: brother and my parents, and they're telling us that there 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: was like a ten thousand year half life of a 111 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: you know, atomic war that you know, irradiates the globe, 112 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: and there was a little periscope you could look through 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: to see what was left of planet Earth as you 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: were waiting for the ten thousand years so it would 115 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: be safe to leave the bomb shelter. And I'm thinking, 116 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: I think I'd rather get nooked than spend ten thousand 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: years with my family in this little tiny room. 118 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: But that world is still with us. 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: We just push it to the backs of our minds 120 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: because it was really terrifying to do duck and covered 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: drills as a little kid and to have these constant reminders. 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: That we live with one blunder we. 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: Could be in that reality. And that all came from 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: the work that was done at Los Alamos and the 125 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: up in the state of Washington and in Oakridge, Tennessee. 126 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: These massive projects that were started in a very very 127 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: concentrated period of time to get a functional atomic bomb 128 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: before the Nazis did, because the Nazis couldn't have it, 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: and then once they had it, immediately we had to 130 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: pivot to what what do we do if Stalin gets 131 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: his hands on it, who was even more successful at 132 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: murdering mass numbers of people than Hitler was. 133 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: So these were very real issues. 134 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: But it got me thinking while I'm watching the movie, 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: how is it that we were able in three years, 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: essentially to start from zero from a letter that Einstein 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: sent to FDR to say, hey, you got to work 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: on this, you got to take this seriously, to General 139 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: Groves picking Oppenheimer to lead this project, the Manhattan Project, 140 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: to the successful completion of a bomb, and a few 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: weeks later after the Trinity test in White Sands, New Mexico, 142 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: to the actual dropping of the bomb on hiroshim and 143 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: then a few days later on Nagasaki, and then rapidly 144 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: the end of the war. How were we able to 145 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: do such a massive project with hundreds of thousands of 146 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: people involved. Hundreds of thousands, that's not hyperbole, and to 147 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: successfully pull this off while keeping it large a secret. 148 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: And we can't get the trash out of the ocean, 149 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: we can't solve the homeless problem, we can't come up 150 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: with an answer to illegal immigration, or we can't deal 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: with things like the drought. I heard John and Kenny 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: of the Day talking about a big articles in the 153 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: papers how most of the water from this. 154 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: Huge wet winter we had and. 155 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: From Tropical Storm Hillary just went right out into the 156 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: ocean because we still have no way to collect it 157 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: and store it. Now we know this, This happens constantly. 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: Every time we have a rainstorm after a drought, the 159 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: same thing happens. We've got the hand ringing the people 160 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: saying we need reservoirs, we need collection systems, we need 161 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: some kind of way to prepare for droughts, and then 162 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: we have a heavy rain and we all. 163 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: Forget about it. 164 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: We go right back to washing the car in the 165 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: driveway and letting the sink run while we're waiting, while 166 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: we're brushing our teeth, we let the sink run and 167 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: all the water goes down the drain because we just 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: just assume that we're just going to have an endless 169 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: supply of water, even though all the evidence suggests that 170 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: recurring droughts are going to be a permanent part of 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: our future as more millions of people live in the 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: West Coast and in the Southwest and water is in 173 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: short supply, but we don't take action. I've got this 174 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: amazing story here that actually is positive news. By the way, 175 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: I have a point that I hopefully will land at 176 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: the end of all of this. This company called Ocean 177 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: Cleanup has a system that can go after those great 178 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: Pacific garbage patches. It's a system called zero point three 179 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: that can suck up a football field worth of trash 180 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: out of the ocean every five seconds and sort it 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: and recycle the plastic and get it out of the ocean. 182 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: It's an amazing piece of technology. 183 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: Just a little backstory, by the way, when we talk 184 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: about those trash islands that are in the ocean, they're 185 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: actually not islands. 186 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: They're really they're're not that solid. 187 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: They were like a soup that goes about twenty feet 188 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: down into the ocean, and it's this sort of goopy 189 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: mess of trash and plastic that is incredibly toxic and 190 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: incredibly disturbing to see. And it's bad for the earth, 191 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: and it's bad for humans as well as the fish. 192 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: And it's solvable. And this is the point I'm trying 193 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: to make about having seen Oppenheimer back in nineteen forty one, 194 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: forty two, forty three, forty four, forty five, we identified 195 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: an ominous threat to our survival, and that was the 196 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: potential that the nazis, the likelihood that the Nazi government 197 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: would have atomic weapons, And it was so unthinkable that 198 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: we committed all of our brain power and resources. And 199 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: we had massive brain power and massive resources, and in 200 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: a very short period of time, Robert Oppenheimer and his 201 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: huge team of fellow geniuses and laborers, clerks and bureaucrats 202 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: and truck drivers. There's a couple of scenes in the movie, 203 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: by the way, but there's guys driving a truck that 204 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: have atomic bombs in the back of him, and I'm thinking, 205 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: I always thought seeing a guy drive a glass truck 206 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: on the four h five was a nervous profession. No 207 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: one of those guys got the sheet sheets of glass. 208 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to drive on any LA roads driving 209 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: a glass truck. How about driving a truck that's got 210 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: fat boy and little man on the back of it. 211 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: I hope they just didn't tell the guys what was this. 212 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: Just tell them, don't tell them what's on the truck. 213 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: Just tell him get it there down right, look out 214 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 3: of the potholes. But we did this amazing technological revolutionary 215 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: history changing scientific endeavor that was turned from theory into 216 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: practical reality. Because we considered it was vital to our 217 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: interest to do so, and we had the leadership to 218 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: commit the resources to make it happen. Why can't we 219 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: apply that to homelessness. Why can't we apply the same 220 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: kind of commitment and organized and single minded focus on 221 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: dealing with some of these issues, whether it's dealing with 222 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: the immigrant crisis at the border that's a catastrophe for 223 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: American cities. We've lived with it for forty years in 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: southern California, but now the other northeast and the other 225 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: cities are starting to get a tasted. They don't like 226 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: it all of a sudden. Now they're not so crazy 227 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: about being a sanctuary city. 228 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: Duh, this is what. 229 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: We've had to deal with and what you've imposed on 230 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: us for forty years. Let's solve these problems. You want 231 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: to solve the problem with the drought, but we've been 232 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: warned forever that we need more reservoirs and collection points 233 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: for runoff, but we don't do anything about it. We 234 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: were able to do it sixty seventy years ago, almost 235 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: eighty years ago when it came to the atomic program. 236 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: Why can't we do it to get the plastic out 237 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 3: of the ocean. We have technology, they can do it, 238 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: but we don't have the commitment to do it, and 239 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: that's crappy leadership. 240 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 241 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: AM six forty. 242 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 3: Doc mcatary for John and Ken. Actress Penny Pirates will 243 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: join us in just a bit. We're gonna update you 244 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: on how the actors are doing through the SAG after 245 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: a portion of the multiple strikes on this Labor Day. 246 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: Of course, I'm wearing my Writers Guild T shirt today 247 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: on Labor Day. The writers are out also with no 248 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: end in sight. This is a disaster for the city 249 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: and for lives, not just the studios and the actors 250 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: and the writers involved, but also all the other people 251 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: are impacted, even people who have no connection actually to 252 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: the labor dispute. But the money that is not being 253 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,119 Speaker 3: spent in the economy as all these people are impacted, 254 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: their income is impacted, they're not spending, and that you know, 255 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: pulls money out of the Southern California economy, out of 256 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: the US economy. So we'll get into that on all 257 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: the other labor actions that are out there, including the 258 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: healthcare workers, the hotel workers, UAW, talkin even the Union 259 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: of Scientists in California. Speaking of Oppenheimer, we've got that 260 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: as well. So let's talk about And meanwhile, California's number one. 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: We'll tell you what we're number one in. It's never 262 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: good news, by the way, when a talk radio host 263 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: says California's number one, no one ever says. 264 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: We're number one. 265 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: A job creation and smart planning and clean out whatever. 266 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: We'll get into all of that. 267 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: So I mentioned earlier in the program that I created 268 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: my own cabinet level position called the Secretary of Knock 269 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: it Off. Concurrently as a wingman to that there is 270 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: a category of news that I like to call things 271 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: my grandfather wouldn't understand. And the more I think about this, 272 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: it's actually stuff that, for the most part, I don't understand. 273 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: I have to blame my grandfather for. 274 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: It, because the world always goes forward, and some of 275 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: what we consider to be going forward isn't necessarily positive 276 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: of a lot of it is, by the way, a 277 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: lot of things that we can, you know, as old 278 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: cogers look at and say, well, why did I don't 279 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: why don't we have rotary telephones like we did when 280 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: I was a kid, you know, look, a lot of 281 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: things change and you may not like it, but try 282 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: telling a fourteen year old that they're better off going 283 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: outside to play and get off the get off their 284 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: phone and not play video games all day. Good luck 285 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: telling them that, because this is their world and they 286 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: get to make their own choices the way we did. 287 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: But meanwhile, there are a lot. 288 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: Of things that it would be very, very difficult to 289 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: explain to my grandfather. And this story has been all 290 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: over the place because it's a particularly egregious example of 291 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: the craziness of posting things online and making them bigger 292 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: and bolder and more vivid and dramatic. And that is 293 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: a gender revealed party gone wrong. This time it was 294 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: in Mexico when this couple had a big sign that 295 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: said oh baby, and they were gonna have a plane 296 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: fly over it and it was going to spray blue 297 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: or pinkmke and glitter, and they had a cannon, a 298 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: pressure cannon. It was going to blow sparkly, you know, 299 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: I guess, glitter into the sky. That was going to 300 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: reveal whether or not I was a boy or girl. Right, 301 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: So the plane comes over, the cannon goes off and 302 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: blows the wing apparently off the plane. The plane sails 303 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: out of frame and the pilot died. And this is 304 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: not the first time that we've had people killed in 305 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: a gender reveal situation. Back at twenty seventeen, Arizona guests 306 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: shot a makeshift target scrolled with the words boy and girl. 307 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: The target was packed with highly explosive a tannerite exploded 308 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: and ignited an enormous brushfire that burned forty seven thousand 309 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: acres and cost eight million dollars. Somebody else killed their 310 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: grandmother back in twenty nineteen, remember that one in Iowa. 311 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: So that would be very very hard to explain to 312 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: Charlie McIntyre from Brooklyn, New York. It's been dead for 313 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: a long time. This also, I mean, this still strikes me. 314 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: And I was just talking about video games at the 315 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: Kia Forum. Big piece in the LA Times about riot 316 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: games selling out the Kia Forum, and it was an 317 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: esport championship thing with eleven five hundred people that were 318 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 3: packed in there to watch other people play video games. 319 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: And I know that this has been going on for 320 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: a long time. And you know, you see Irvine offers 321 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: full boat athletic scholarships to e sport athletes, and I 322 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: just have a hard time absorbing this. And of course 323 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: my brother and I would play a knockcocky foosball and 324 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: that that hockey thing that had the sliding hockey players 325 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: that went forward and backwards. If you're a kid of 326 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: the sixties, you had this thing. We played that for hours, 327 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: so I get it. There have been replica, you know, 328 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: game versions of sports that were you know, my father 329 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: used to shake his head as we'd be in on 330 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: a sunny Saturday afternoon watching or playing some kind of 331 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: board game version of baseball as to going out and 332 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: playing actual baseball. So maybe it's just the technology is different. 333 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: But the idea that people will pay to go sit 334 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: in an arena and watch people play video games, it's 335 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: really strange to me. And here's the last one that 336 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 3: I couldn't explain to my grandfather if I had a 337 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: government grant to do so. A college professor is now suspended. 338 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: He hasn't been fired yet, and he was harassing his 339 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: students because he had a clown fetish. So he was 340 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: offering extra credit and cash to students if they would 341 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: paint their faces like clowns. And this is a place 342 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: called Nicholas State University in Louisiana. And by the way, 343 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 3: the article that I downloaded on this from USA Today 344 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: goes on for like twenty printed pages. I used a 345 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 3: half a toner cartridge on my printer in order to 346 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: bring you this story. I couldn't explain a clown fetish 347 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: to my grandfather. I can barely explain it to you. 348 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 349 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: AM six forty. 350 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: Doug McIntyre in for John and Ken. California is number one. 351 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: In a few minutes, I will tell you what we're 352 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: number one in. And at four o'clock in for Tim 353 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 3: Conway Jr. Chris Merrill will be here. Meanwhile, it is 354 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: labor Day, and of course half the town is shut 355 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: down because of strikes, not just the SAG after an 356 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: actor strike and the WGA strike which is now in 357 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: the four month has just hit the four month mark 358 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 3: with no insight. Thousands of LA healthcare workers are rallying 359 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: on this labor day as well as the League of Scientists. 360 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: The Union of Scientists in California authorized a strike vote 361 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: healthcare workers hospital workers the UAW contract. And we mentioned 362 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: before earlier in the show that in a new survey, 363 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 3: an enormous percentage of Americans have not had a raise 364 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: in three years, and when you consider what inflation is like, 365 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: they're really going backwards. So these are turbulent times, to 366 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: say the least. To get you an update from an 367 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: actor's perspective, it's a pleasure to welcome one of the 368 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: stars of All the President's Men and the in Laws 369 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: with Alan ark And and Peter Fuck and Frisco Kid as 370 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: well with Harrison Ford and Gene Wilder and a whole 371 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 3: bunch of stuff including she played the bride at our wedding, 372 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: my very own wife. It's a pleasure to welcome to 373 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: the show Penny Peyser. Good afternoon, miss Peyser. 374 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: How are you now? 375 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: How did you get how did you get cast as 376 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 3: my wife? Of all of all the roles in the world, 377 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: you ended up with that? 378 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really, I really must have done 379 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: some special favors for the casting director, That's all I 380 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: can say. 381 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you drew the short straw that day for you too, sir, 382 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: No kidding anyway, thanks to Ben with us. 383 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: And by the way, Penny has a book out as 384 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: well as not just me plugging Frank's shadow relentlessly. Penny's 385 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: book Sonets from More Candles Than Cake is available at 386 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: Amazon dot com. So good, get yourself a whole bunch 387 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: of copies, how about that. So let's start with this. 388 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Let's start with this strike thing. It really doesn't look 389 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 3: like there's any movement whatsoever, despite the fact that this 390 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 3: is dragged on now for months, the writers for four months, 391 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: and the screen actors have been out for a long time. 392 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: Today and their chief negotiators sent out an email blast 393 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: basically telling people to keep their chins up because this 394 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: we're now looking at something that could go into twenty 395 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: twenty four. 396 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Well, today is day fifty four of 397 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: our strike. And you know, even though things are tough, 398 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: and I'm sure things will get a lot tougher, there 399 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: does seem to be so far, anyway, a lot of 400 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: resolve in the membership to keep this going until you know, 401 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: the AMPT is going to sit down with a fair 402 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: idea about negotiating, I mean, with really good intentions. So far, 403 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: that is not emerged at all. 404 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: So one of the things that's nice to. 405 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: See that everyone's very resolute about it. 406 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: One of the things that has emerged is that there 407 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: appears to be no leadership on the part of the 408 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: producer's organization, you know, and I hate using the word 409 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: producers because it's really studios. It should be you know, 410 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: we're not talking. We see these producer credits on a 411 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: TV series. That's not who the strike is engineered by. 412 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: It's it's it's the big studios that are parts of conglomerates. 413 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: But there doesn't appear to be unity there either, because 414 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 3: Amazon and Apple has a whole different business model than, 415 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: for instance, even the Walt Disney Company, as big as 416 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 3: that is, the actual productions that they make, the films 417 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: and television products of the network ABC that they own 418 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: an ESPN are any entertainment business as opposed to Amazon, 419 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: which is selling sponges and selling toilet ball rush. 420 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean, so I don't know what the 421 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: answer to that is, but you're right, there hasn't been 422 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: a figure on the other side emerging who really is 423 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: talking any sense and has any sense of bringing them 424 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: together even to talk about it. So it's very that's 425 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: very frustrating. 426 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: Were talking with actress, actress Penny Pizer, who's books on 427 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: its from Suburbia. More Candles than Cake is available at 428 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: Amazon and who actually has a one woman show as 429 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: part of the Hollywood Independent Theater Festival. We'll talk about 430 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: that in just a second. One of the people who 431 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: has been sort of commenting from the sidelines is Barry Diller, 432 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: who is a major, major player studio head for years, 433 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: and he's actually arguing that the writers and the actors 434 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: should make a separate deal, exclude Amazon and Apple and 435 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: make a deal with Netflix and the other studios because 436 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 3: they are natural allies. They're all in the same profect 437 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: as opposed to the two outliers that I mentioned, right. 438 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: I thought that was I thought that was a great point. 439 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: And you would think someone might listen to someone like 440 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Barry Diller and you know, might be calling them up 441 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: or asking for suggestions. But I thought that was I 442 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: thought that was an excellent idea. 443 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: But let me ask you this too. It's kind of 444 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: interesting that while there have been some very prominent actors 445 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 3: who have shown up at the picket lines and have 446 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: done some speechifying at rallies, for the most part, the 447 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: A listers have stayed very quiet, and there's been a 448 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: lot of criticism about that, and the Screen Actors Guild 449 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: and after itself has remained kind of mum. We actually 450 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: reached out to the unions and asked if they could 451 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: give us a spokesperson, and they don't want to, They 452 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: don't want to provide, they don't want to. And I 453 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: suppose this is this is a good strategy to not 454 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: negotiate in the media. But it's interesting in a profession 455 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: where you will are your own brand. I'm curious if 456 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: you think that people aren't somewhat afraid, actually afraid for 457 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: their futures to get too far out in front as 458 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: a spokesperson, because it's very, very easy to not get 459 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: hired in the entertainment industry. 460 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I guess you could. You could say 461 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: that that the you know, major celebrities have been quiet, 462 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: but also the other side's been quiet in the media. 463 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: So don't you think, I mean it's it's I don't, 464 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's a bad idea necessarily 465 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: to not have a lot of ugliness going on in 466 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: the media. And sure could people be afraid of being 467 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: blacklisted or held in a not very favorable light if 468 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: they become a spokesperson for the you know, sag Aftra, 469 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know what to say about that? 470 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: That is, that is what it is. 471 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: Well, the Bob Bobby came out, you know, a couple 472 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: weeks back, and he was he was heavily criticized for 473 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: saying the saying that the writers need to grow up 474 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 3: and they need to recognize that the landscape has changed. 475 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: And then recently the AMPTP actually published and released to 476 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: the press their most recent quote unquote offered to the 477 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: writers and that didn't go well for them at all. 478 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: They actually have subsequently now hired a crisis you know, 479 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: public relations crisis team to unspin the damage they did there. 480 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: So the trenches are getting deeper and unfortunately the collateral 481 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: damage of this workstoppage. It continues and may spill into 482 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: a second year. On a brighter note, let's talk about 483 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: Sound of Some Suburbia More Candles than Cake both the 484 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: book which you turned into a one woman show that 485 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: was a big hit at the La Fringe Festival and 486 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: is now getting an encore appearance on September sixth, which 487 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: by my calendar is Wednesday at seven pm as part 488 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: of the Hollywood independ in a Theater Festival. 489 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: Tell us about it. 490 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: Well, this Hollywood Independent Theater festival is a brand new 491 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: idea and Matthew Quinn, who's one of the festival's producers, 492 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: he decided to take eight shows from the festival that 493 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: happened in June and run them in rotation going forward, 494 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: which I think is kind of a cool idea, and 495 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: it's it's wonderful for those of us who you know, 496 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: create these these shows to have more life past the festival. 497 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a it's a very cool thing. We'll 498 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: see if it takes I saw it. 499 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 4: From Suburbia is the play that you wrote. 500 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: It features some of your work from the book, but 501 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: it's a narrative story featuring Lady Penelope, your character, who's 502 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: this nutty woman who took if I with spoiler alerts intact, 503 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: it took COVID so seriously that she's still in quarantine 504 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: and speaks in Shakespearean's sonnets but about today's stuff, all 505 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: the craziness that goes on today. It's very entertaining, it's 506 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: really funny and tickets are available at hit Fest, Hitfest 507 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: dot stagey dot net, hit Fest dot stagey dot net 508 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: and it's seven pm at the Stephanie Fury Theater right 509 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: on Melrose. This coming Wednesday, and then at eight thirty 510 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: on September twentieth. 511 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: MS Pyser, thank you so much. 512 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of speak speak of unions. There's a discount available 513 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: if you type you if you're a union member there 514 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: you can type in union in the discount code and 515 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: get a discounted ticket. 516 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: Beautiful. Thank you so much for ben with us. We 517 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 518 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Penny Pieser, you're listening to John and Ken on demand 519 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: from KFI. I am six. 520 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: Forty Doug mcatar in for John and Kenn at four 521 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: o'clock in for Tim. Come my junior, Chris Merrill will 522 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: be here. And of course everybody's back in the saddle tomorrow, 523 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: and that means you too, because that means back to 524 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: where you go, right, those of us who work on 525 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: these holidays. I actually always kind of liked it because 526 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: most holidays I wanted to get out of the holiday anyway. 527 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: There's only about a handful of holidays I actually cared about. 528 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: I love the fourth of July. That was always my 529 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: favorite for some reason. And of course as a kid, 530 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: you like Christmas. But a lot of the pastel holidays 531 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: I could do without. Easter wasn't big on Easter, you 532 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: had to eat ham. I'm not a big ham fan. 533 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: And dressing up. 534 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: I don't know why, for some reason on Easter you 535 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: have to dress like a bunny, but you do anyway. 536 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: So it's Labor Day. 537 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: Lots of people are really wrestling with the nature of 538 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: work itself, and we are actually in a transition period 539 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: for the nature of work itself, not just in terms 540 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: of all the labor disturbances that we would just talk 541 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: with Penny about, but either the healthcare workers and everybody 542 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: else who's walking picket lines, the hotel workers, in the 543 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: hospitality people. 544 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 4: But uh, just the nature of work. 545 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: He got employers that are actually begging their and then 546 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: threatening their workers to come back into the office, to 547 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: come back to the work site. They're paying all this 548 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: money for a factory or for office buildings, and no 549 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: one's coming. They want to work remotely, And then and 550 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: younger people they don't. They've got options with with you know, 551 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: all these vacancies in the workplace. A lot of the 552 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: power has shifted from the employer to the employee and 553 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: they're dictating their working conditions. Uh so that's a that's 554 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: an interesting phenomenon too. That would be hard to explain 555 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: to my grandfather, I should throw that into What do 556 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: you mean you don't want to come to work, You 557 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: don't want to come to the office. Well, guess what, 558 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: the guy who wants the job, well will come to 559 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: the office. But that actually has changed where employers are 560 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: negotiating how many days a week people have to come in. Meanwhile, 561 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: California is number one in cancel culture according to something 562 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: called and I know how dubious Conway would listen to 563 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: this online casinos dot com. I don't know why they 564 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: did this survey, but that's the people who publish the survey, 565 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: and here it is on the interweb, so we have 566 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: to take it as the truth. Right, Californias are the 567 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: quickest to cancel a star out of anyone in the country. 568 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: California had the highest unfollow rate of canceled celebrities, with 569 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: fifty nine percent of those surveys saying that they would 570 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: unfollow someone who had been canceled. That's the highest in 571 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: the nation. By the way, the most forgiving is Idaho. 572 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is in potatoes, but apparently 573 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: those people are willing to forgive celebrities who fall a 574 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: foul of the current woke trend social media. Sixty four 575 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: percent of Idaho based responded said that they would not 576 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: unfollow someone based on them being canceled. This is a 577 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: strange survey, Lizo, by the way, I guess it was 578 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: the latest celebrity to fall a foul of the you 579 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: know the storm, you know, the rush to judgment crowd 580 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 3: who have a tiny bit of evidence, they hear something 581 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: that something untoward was done by a celebrity or said 582 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: in the pastor in the present, and they are this 583 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: person that they formally loved now they hate. 584 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: And this is true, by the way. 585 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: What's kind of interesting is canceled culture is something that 586 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: people on the right in particular like to talk about. 587 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: And yet if you think about it, this has now 588 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: entered the political realm first and foremost, you might almost 589 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: say they pioneered it, because if you want to see 590 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: somebody get canceled, immediately find a Republican that says anything 591 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: negative about Donald Trump, and you will find somebody who. 592 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 4: Is canceled instantaneously. 593 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: People that you know, Republicans and Conservatives have voted for 594 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: for decades are instantaneously rhinos and heretics if they dare 595 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: stray off the Donald Trump reservation by one degree. So 596 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: cancel culture is not just with celebrities or because of 597 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: political correctness slash wokeness. You can get canceled for just 598 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: saying anything now publicly and instantaneously x percentage of the 599 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: population will be offended by it, and then it goes 600 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: onto you know X formally the the the social media 601 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: site formerly known as Twitter or any of the other 602 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: social media platforms, and then it gets picked up in 603 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: the rest of the media. And we have my favorite 604 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: story when a mainstream news organization will say some people say, 605 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: which means, you know, five guys on Twitter, and all 606 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: of a sudden, that's part of the story that you 607 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: can always find five guys on Twitter that are opposed 608 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: to anything. But the idea of canceling people because they 609 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: have a difference of opinion is different than canceling somebody 610 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: because they've committed a criminal fence. And the Dodgers are 611 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: going through that right now with Julio Urias for the 612 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 3: second time in his young life, having apparently been picked 613 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: up by the police on Sunday night on allegations of 614 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: domestic abuse. So we've got that story to get into, 615 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: and so many others in the next hour, we're gonna 616 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 3: update you on some of the Labor Day actions as 617 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: well as how long can you keep your let your 618 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: dog bark before the cops get called. That's a story 619 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: that I can't wait to dig into, and I went 620 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: to see Oppenheimer and have some thoughts on that. Will 621 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: hit that story again and for the tenth time. A 622 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: busload of illegal immigrants has been sent to Los Angeles 623 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of pearl clutching going on at 624 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 3: LA City Hall. We'll talk about that as well. 625 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 4: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 626 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 627 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 628 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.