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Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger, I'm

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Speaker 3: the host, you're the listener. The world is full of

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Speaker 3: magic and possibilities. And I'm kidding. I look where. This

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Speaker 3: recorded in my backyard, and then there was some you know, drilling,

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Speaker 3: actually two wonderful guests, Kevin T. Porter and his dog, Dexter.

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Speaker 3: Kevin and Dexter, welcome to me.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're so happy to be here. And Dexter is

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Speaker 2: not the gift, by the way, I just want because

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Speaker 2: But it's like, well, I'm not going to leave you

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Speaker 3: I would have been thrilled to just suddenly have a

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Speaker 2: But you said you already had it.

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Speaker 3: I do have a dog, and my boyfriend's constantly asking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not only children's syndrome where they're going to

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Speaker 3: What are you I've got? I'm middle of four okay, third.

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Speaker 3: There were three boys, and my parents tried once more

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so how do you like The Killer's

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Speaker 2: It's about Utah, which is of course Nephi itself is

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Nephi fan thick on Tumblr you

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Speaker 3: But the town itself not a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: No, It's like three thousand and it seems ravaged by

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Speaker 3: That's your bumper sticker. Yeah, that's I saw you pull up.

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Speaker 2: I have very few core beliefs, but that is one

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Speaker 3: Now, this is the thing with the Muppets.

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Speaker 3: The twenty twenty four elections are coming up. Everyone get

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Speaker 2: This is kind of my A million Little Pieces moment.

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Speaker 3: For Oprah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I'm you know, I that is I

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Speaker 2: You're trying to Mike Richards yourself whenever you can. Yes,

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Speaker 2: please the dream just to destroy me. No, Glenn, Wait,

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Speaker 2: Reach out. Correct the record now, there is as we're

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Speaker 2: And presence, oh gosh, I mean I when I was

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Speaker 3: just I walk away and leave the mast with the

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Speaker 3: microphone and then I fill a buster until the next

437
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Speaker 3: episode the next week. Katy Perry. My one experience with

438
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: Katie Perry was I believe it was maybe two and eight.

439
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: Some friends and I used to go up to Sundance

440
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: while it was happening and would try to get into

441
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 3: concerts this sort of thing. We got into a concert

442
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 3: that she was playing pre pop. She was like playing

443
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: acoustic guitar, excruciating. One of the worst nights of my life.

444
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Speaker 2: She wasn't good.

445
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 3: I oh, you know it was she was doing the

446
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: like kind of like trying to be edgy thing but

447
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: with folk music, and like I didn't want to be

448
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: there anyway. I believe Shooter McGavin was also there, just

449
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: as a celebrity or something. Seeing Shooter mccalvin. And then

450
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: when she really hit the scene, it was like, you know,

451
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: she really went through an evolution there.

452
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: If you listen to her two thousand and two Christian album,

453
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Speaker 2: which is available on YouTube. As All Good Things Are,

454
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Speaker 2: YouTube is my favorite streaming service by the way I

455
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: pay from a premium subscription. Yeah, no, ads, and I'm

456
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: there on there all the time. It's amazing.

457
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: Wow, what are you watching?

458
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, like a lot of cooking videos, a lot

459
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: of tutorials, a lot of video essays, a lot of

460
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: old performances, a lot of Dick Cavit show interviews.

461
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Speaker 3: I love Dick Cavit, right, excellent interviewer.

462
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, surfing on YouTube. Oh what was my larger

463
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: point by Oh, her vocal antecedents you can hear on

464
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: the Christian album are a little warped to core like

465
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: it is like it is more that that vocal delivery

466
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: that you can hear a little bit on a kissed

467
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: a girl, but is like all but gone on Smile

468
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: or whatever her newest album.

469
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Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like she bless her. I mean, we

470
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Speaker 3: don't need to get into the Katie Perry world.

471
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Speaker 2: Pieces of Me, all of Me whatever that documentary was called.

472
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: Look Katy Perry, miss Piggy, all of this aside. I

473
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: asked you here today for a specific actually just to talk.

474
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see you in my backyard.

475
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Speaker 2: I mean, what a great premise for a show. Or

476
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Speaker 2: it's just give me that is not the premise of

477
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Speaker 2: this show. Kevin, absolutely not.

478
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: I asked you just to come over to my backyard.

479
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: I thought we'll have a nice time. We're both deeply

480
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Speaker 3: tan work.

481
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: On our I know. Is this a strange Marx Brothers

482
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: podcast experience right now, like doing the mirror routine?

483
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: It really is.

484
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm certain I've gotten you as as a look alike

485
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: in my past. I hope that's not not flattering.

486
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: It would be extremely flattering. This does feel kind of

487
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: like a spider Man running into the doppel ganger. Yeah,

488
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But you know, we thought. I

489
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 3: thought we'll spend some time in the backyard, we'll have

490
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: a nice time. He'll go home, and we'll move on

491
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: with our lives. And then of course the neighbors start

492
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: their construction. We move into the house. We're in this

493
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 3: kind of echo office that I've constructed, and you came in.

494
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: You were holding a bag. I was, yeah, the podcast

495
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: is called I said, no giving.

496
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: I know, and I was a bad little boy, and

497
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm not following the rules. I'm going a different way altogether.

498
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: You are kind of known in the podcast community as

499
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: a troublemaker.

500
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Oh I know, listen, I mean if you smell something,

501
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: it's the bridges I'm burning. That's that's what that is.

502
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: You brought this bag with you, and I'm just I

503
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: have to ask, is this a gift for me? It

504
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: is a gift just for you.

505
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a key friend, a little brown bag with

506
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: some pink tissue coming out of it.

507
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Should open it here on the show. I would love

508
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: if you did. Okay, I'm going to open it.

509
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: I'm gonna open wait, oh my god, that kend Okay,

510
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: Kevin for the listener should know runs a which it's

511
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: a business at this point.

512
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, kind of a little baked goods.

513
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: It's called Kevin Bacon. I have, of course been to

514
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: the website multiple times, always tempted to buy, but then

515
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: I think I'm just going to bake at home because

516
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: I love.

517
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Speaker 2: To bake it. You love to bake as well.

518
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: Of course I not like you, not like you because

519
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 3: you are like you're you are doing your own stuff

520
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: at this point, trying to so, listener, I've brought out

521
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: another little brown bag full of some sort of baked

522
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: good a bar, a bar cookie.

523
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: I have bars for you today.

524
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: What type of bar cookie is? So?

525
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: This is a snicker doodle, cheesecake, bar good, grief and

526
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: freshly baked from yesterday and then chilled in the fridge

527
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: for twenty four hours before coming here. And it is

528
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: pretty much what it sounds like for a listener home.

529
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: The aesthetic is it looks like almost a sandwich cookie,

530
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: but in bar formed there's brown cinnamon crumbling on top

531
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Speaker 2: and bottom with a white cheesecake streak going through the metal.

532
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: This is okay, so we need to get into this.

533
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: I could talk. I mean, this could if if I

534
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: wanted to, could just transform this entire podcast into talking

535
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 3: about baked goods. And I'm sure a shot of listeners

536
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: are like, oh no, it's one of those episodes.

537
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm out. This is a type of episode I have

538
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: on the show now.

539
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: It comes up that frequently occasionally when baked goods get

540
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: brought up. I'm like a dog with a bone. It's

541
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: all I'll talk about.

542
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: Really. Look, I'm up in Utah.

543
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: My mom's a baker, I mean like at homebaker, but

544
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: an excellent baker. I love a baked good. I have

545
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: a long history with cookies that at one point was

546
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: deeply unhealthy.

547
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Oh is that true? I was eating nine cookies a

548
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: day at what age?

549
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: In my twenties okay, mid twenties, you know, whether they

550
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: were purchased at a store or baked by me? It

551
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: was nine cookies a day. Okay, I was obviously, you know,

552
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: filling a void. Just is before I came out, I

553
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: was living alone. What else do you do at night

554
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: but eat nine cookies a day?

555
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: And then were you counterbalancing that with a lot of exercise?

556
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh? I was walking to work, so maybe that's but

557
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: that was only a mile. This sounds like the saddest

558
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: person's No, I just actually was.

559
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Speaker 2: I'm interesting. Everyone has a different relationship with food, and

560
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: especially it's changed in the last eighteen nineteen months for

561
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: a lot of us. Yes, so it's it's all valid. Wow.

562
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I love to talk about baked goods, and

563
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: I love to hear about other you know, it's always

564
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: kind of shocking to me that other people don't like regularly.

565
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: I eat cookies every single day?

566
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Speaker 2: Is that true? Every day? Unless I'm having ice cream?

567
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: Are they cookies that you bakee? Yes?

568
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: At this point they're unless like somebody sends me cookies

569
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Speaker 3: or for example, now suddenly I've got these in my

570
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: life they're cookies baked by.

571
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Speaker 2: Me, because I did say as I came into your

572
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: lovely home immediately envious of the counter space.

573
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have more. I moved in here last year

574
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: from an apartment that had essentially no counter space, and so,

575
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what your your current counterspace

576
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: situation is, but it makes baking. You have to get

577
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: creative if you've got smaller and I feel very lucky

578
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: now that I can kind of spread out and make

579
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: an even bigger mess. Yeah, but I also have become

580
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: so efficient. You know, I started baking in a studio

581
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: apartment that was essentially the size of it was essentially

582
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: my bathroom and a futon, and so I was really

583
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: working in a tiny space there. Moved into various other places,

584
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: and so I still work in maybe a two foot

585
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: by two foot space.

586
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about what I'm rocking now. I got about

587
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: sixteenth of what I saw out there.

588
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: And you're baking. You're running a business.

589
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: I know, how does this work? Not efficient? It apparently is.

590
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: It's a bad idea. I've just added ice cream to

591
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: the repertoire too, right, I have an ice cream flavor

592
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: to pitch to you. Oh, I would love to hear it.

593
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get more creative.

594
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: I want somebody to create this flavor for my own

595
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: selfish reasons.

596
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Can I tell you it here now?

597
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I even have a name for it. It would

598
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: be called Grasshopper Road from Ent ice cream with chocolate,

599
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: marshmallows and nuts. It's like a Rocky Road but mint.

600
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: It's a Grasshopper meets Rocky Road.

601
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: I'll make it. I'll make it tomorrow. Make it. Yeah,

602
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: that's like a huge that could be a Ben and

603
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Jerry's chocolate cream base with like two teaspoons of peppermint extract.

604
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Then maybe like candied walnuts plus either homemade vanilla being marshmallows,

605
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: or just a stay pop from the I say do

606
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: staypuff Yeah.

607
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: Easier, and I think the texture it is easier and

608
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 3: let they're like slightly less sweet. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm

609
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: now pitching my own ice cream flavors on my podcast

610
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: because how often do you meet someone who makes ice cream?

611
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: I mean the other day, so I was selling you

612
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: we'll do a local plug if it's not inappropriate or

613
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't conflict with a sponsor. But Jameson Brown is

614
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: a local coffee shop and roaster here on this part

615
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: of town in Pasadena, closer to where I live, and

616
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: they have certain signature drinks, one of which is a

617
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Vienna latte, which is just you know, it's probably a

618
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: drink a lot of cafes half, but it's something which

619
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: is honey and cinnamon. They have another one called a

620
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Mine Mocha, which is mocha plus chipotle powder.

621
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: Oh sure.

622
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: And so I did an ice cream version of both

623
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: of those lattes using their ground up beans in espresso.

624
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: And that was my first time like really experimenting with

625
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: like trying to match a flavor that I'm seen before

626
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: in a recipe, and I think it came out pretty good.

627
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: How God, I truly have so many questions. I'm all

628
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: over the place. I need like an assistant sitting here

629
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: for it to whisper my questions. Remember this, remember this,

630
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: But let's let's start. Let's keep with ice cream for

631
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: a moment. I'm curious how you make ice cream at

632
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: home and how you learn how to do it.

633
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: Sure, So I got an ice cream maker about two

634
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: months ago. Okay, it wasn't too long ago. And for

635
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: those who are thinking about it at home, I say

636
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: do it, especially if you're one of these filthy one

637
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: percenters with a kitchen free keen island living in Idaho

638
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: and making like thirty grand a year, but you can

639
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: afford a five bedroom house or a kitchen island. I

640
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: say spring for the ice cream maker that has a

641
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: compressor in it, okay, which is different from ically the

642
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: hand crank stuff. But then also sort of attachments like

643
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: you would have for like a kitchen aid stand mix

644
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: or something where you have to put the bowl or

645
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: the bucket in the freezer for at least twenty four hours,

646
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: because that's the big bummer at least up until recently

647
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: of making ice cream. Is like, I want to make

648
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: ice cream today, Okay, well I can make it tomorrow

649
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: after putting in the bucket if I haven't, like had

650
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: the fourth thought to do it. But what the compressor

651
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: machine does? I have a Queasin Art ice one hundred

652
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: machine and I'm not sponsored by them.

653
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: I would love to be said, Queasin Art, please send

654
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Kevin something, just.

655
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Something you're like a sticker I'll put on my laptop.

656
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: And so what that does is you just turn it

657
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: on for fifteen minutes and it freezes the bowl as

658
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: it churns. So what that means is you can also

659
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: make multiple batches in a day, which you cannot do

660
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: with your traditional ice cream machines. So I got this machine,

661
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: and then I got about five or six different ice

662
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: cream cookbooks, Jenny salten Straw obviously, the Ben and Jerry's one,

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: Van Lewin The Perfect Scoop was another one I got

664
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: and just started like mixing and matching different recipes from

665
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: that o. Jenny's has had my favorite strawberry ice cream recipe,

666
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: salten straw my favorite goat cheese with like a hob

667
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: and narrow BlackBerry jam recipe, or like a lavender honey.

668
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people have lavender honey recipes. I think

669
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: salten Straws is my favorite, and essentially what it is

670
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: because I've been less creative even with baking, I think

671
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: than I've been able to do with ice cream. Because

672
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: if you just start with the bass, like whatever your

673
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: base is, like Ben and Jerry's has a base that's

674
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: like custard. So it's just two eggs, two cups of

675
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: heavy cream, three fourth cups of sugar, and then one

676
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: cup of milk, and then that's your base, and then

677
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want with it as far

678
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: as yeah, you can get freaky dickey like I made.

679
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: I like doing like a lot of cereal based stuff,

680
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: so like making like a Lucky Charms ice crumber crunch.

681
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: I made a Captain Crunch one where I added like

682
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: freeze dried corn powder like you would use like in

683
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: a milk ball formerly known as crack pie or some

684
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: of the other stuff that they have, And I did

685
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: that plus like a teaspoon of grounded up Captain crunch

686
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: and then two cups of Captain Crunch in it. And

687
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: it's like a sweet corn crunch that sounds tastes different

688
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: from the cereal, right, but it is like familiar enough

689
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: where it's like, well, I like Captain Crunch. It's like, well,

690
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: you may also like sweet corn crunch this particular ice cream.

691
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: So it's been really fun and it's honestly, it's so

692
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: fun to make because it's a little bit easier, especially

693
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: with that machine, than making something like a full like

694
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: three tear layer cake or even a pie where like

695
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: the crust process can take two hours in the dating.

696
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Oh man, I made a pistachio cloud pie the other day.

697
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. It was really good. It was

698
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: actually I think maybe the prettiest things I've one of

699
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: the prettiest things I've made, which is not saying a lot,

700
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: because I don't know of aesthetics are my strong suit.

701
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: But it took forever, but it was worth it. But

702
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: something like ice cream you can just be like, well,

703
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: and you can be a little more intuitive with it,

704
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: I think in the way that you can with cooking,

705
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: because people talk about like the precision.

706
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: You need with with baking, Oh my god, you can't

707
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: screw around if you're like a quarter teaspoon off this

708
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: or that.

709
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: It's like, well, the whole thing's ruin. If you get

710
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: the base right and then you're adding like mixings and stuff,

711
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: you can actually be a little more imprecise, right, if

712
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: that's the word with it, So I recommend it. Do

713
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: you have an ice cream maker?

714
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm not making ice cream, as you could. I love

715
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: to bake, but almost exclusively cookies. Like with a bar recipe,

716
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, if it gets screwed up, it's an entire

717
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: pan ruined, Okay, And the anxiety for me over the top, gotcha.

718
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: I'll occasionally make a brownie and I'm usually satisfied, but

719
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: the lead up is just too much, the melting, the chocolate,

720
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: all of this. It's just it's a very stressful and

721
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: I bake just to basically calm myself down. So it's nice,

722
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: Like I know how to make a good chocolate chip cookie,

723
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 3: and I know I'll use different recipes from various bakers.

724
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: What's your greatest hit of a cookie where it's like,

725
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: I really want to I'm having people over, I want

726
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: to have some sweets I've created.

727
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: I've kind of created my own little recipe at this point,

728
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: using different things that I like. That's like it's on

729
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: the thicker side. I'm now using partially bread flour, which

730
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: was in the last couple of years a discovery for me.

731
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: I really like the flavor it brings to a cookie.

732
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: You ever use a bread flour in a cookie?

733
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't believe. I have no.

734
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: It gives it a bready taste that may sound strange.

735
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: I've only used bread flour I think in like cinnamon

736
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: roll stuff.

737
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: I'm using part almost all bread flour in this particular recipe,

738
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: and it creates a nice cookie. It's thicker. It's thicker,

739
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: it's got like a slight it's got the slight breadiness

740
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: to it, which saying that aloud sounds bad, but yeah,

741
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: that's kind of my thing. I've been using this pan

742
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: banging recipe from this baker Sarah Keefer, I want to

743
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: say is her name, which always dazzles people. But it

744
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: does require a lot of banging in the oven. You

745
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: have to lift up the pan and bang it. It's

746
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: like a crinkle delicious. What's your favorite thing to bake?

747
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I go back and forth. I get into

748
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: phases with different kinds of cookbooks. So I've been hosting

749
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: people over my place recently again because I was the

750
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: number one thing I missed about last year, right, more

751
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: than restaurants, more than travel, more than going to the movies.

752
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I miss having more than one person.

753
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: It's my place, so to host. I've been making a

754
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: lot of different kinds of cakes. Oh and I got

755
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: really into the milk bar cake stuff sure, which for

756
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: those I may not know, the milk bar cake sort

757
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: of philosophy is exposed edges. Instead of having like a

758
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: perfectly uniform frosting on the top and on the sides,

759
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: you do it where it's all exposed, but you can

760
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: see everything that's in it. So you can see the frosting,

761
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: you can see each cake layer. And my piece to resistance,

762
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: says of Late, was I made an ice cream milk

763
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: bar cake, homemade ice cream. So it's a roasted strawberry

764
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: buttermilk homemade ice cream, vanilla cake, sour cream frosting, and

765
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: then Graham cracker crumble in between. That sounds disgusting. It

766
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: was really tall. It was I almost could not make

767
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: it was for foot I think, yeah.

768
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: Wow that so I mean yeah, for me, that's so

769
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: many things that I couldn't even begin to imagine making

770
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: that at home.

771
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: So it's admirable. Yeah. And again with this much counter SPI.

772
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: What you see before business is this ruining your life?

773
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: Uh? You know what? Well, when I launched it, I

774
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: did it all for uh for charity. So all the

775
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: profits went to the Sila Neighborhood Homeless Coalition, which is

776
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: a nonprofit here in Los Angeles helping on house people.

777
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: And it was great to be able to do it

778
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: as like to just like jump start and get like

779
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: essentially a customer base, and it was easy for people

780
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: to plug because it was for charity. And then after

781
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: that leveled out and because I got like a deluge

782
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: of orders where it was literally like I was baking

783
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: and delivering within La County because I said, we're in

784
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: La County, which turns out it's really big.

785
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: It's a very big amount.

786
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: And Pallas Veraday's technically La County. Monrovia, La County. Did

787
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: you go to Monroevia? Of course Monroe is actually not

788
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: far from where I lived. That's like two exits down

789
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: for me. But Pallas Vera days, that's a that's a

790
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: drive where for Biola is where is that? I mean

791
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: it's actually Promona Bible Institute of Los Angeles. That's technically

792
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: La County. Baby, So there was a couple of weeks

793
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: where it's just like that's all I did. It's leveled

794
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: out since and it's more manageable. It's more like a

795
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: dozen or less orders per month now, so it's just

796
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: like this fun little thing I get to do.

797
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: So do you wait?

798
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: Do you ship at all? No? Because I well, one,

799
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm technically licensed to show, right, so

800
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: there's like the legal issue. But then two I get

801
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: a little nervous about how cost prohibitive it is because

802
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: to do shipping on top of all that stuff, And

803
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: then to keep it fresh and to get it within

804
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: a certain amount of days so then when they get

805
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: it it's not stale. Takes a lot, and it's something

806
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: that people have asked about specifically, because there's a lot

807
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: of people who have DMed and just said, hey, I'd

808
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: like a cookie, can you freaking ship? And I'm like,

809
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm working on it, but not yet. But it's something

810
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: i've just like constantly put off.

811
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: Would do you want to expand the business? No, that's

812
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: something you like doing, Yeah, and we'll continue doing at

813
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: the level you're at.

814
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: The margins for food, like any dummy can tell you,

815
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: and I guess now I can tell you from experience,

816
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: the margins with food work if you're not producing at

817
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: a mass scale or overcharging, are just like hard to

818
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: make it work. And I'm even finding that even with

819
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: like just little deliveries where it's like why don't want

820
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: to charge like five bucks a cookie for a dozen cookies?

821
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: Like I want to do something reasonable where it's not like, well,

822
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: why would I do this instead of just either making

823
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: myself forget oreos from the grocery side, So to do

824
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 2: that and then like keep it at a reasonable rate,

825
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: it's just hard to I understand why like food businesses, restaurants,

826
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: cafes struggle to do it.

827
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: Okay, well look I could. I literally could talk about

828
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: baking for the rest of the day.

829
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: I know. We didn't even get into pies, Big Little Pies.

830
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: That's right. You have the whole Big Little Pies thing

831
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: that you were doing years ago, right, I was like

832
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: two years ago. I guess that's time.

833
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: I know that was twenty nineteen was the season two

834
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: of Big Little Lies. Was Big Little Pies a theme

835
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: party we did in my place where everyone brought pies.

836
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: I didn't bake a single pie for that. That was

837
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: when I was not in my baking face. Wow. Yeah,

838
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: so is that been a late pandemic?

839
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: Started the baking for you? I hosted a cookie party

840
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: and maybe twenty I want to say twenty twelve, which

841
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: was simultaneously very successful and also a real learning lesson

842
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: where it was like, you ask people to bring cookies

843
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: and they expect you to eat every Everyone expects you

844
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: to eat their cookies.

845
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: Twelve pies. That's just not viable. It's not sustainable. I

846
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: did a bake off for my birthday last year. Oh

847
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: like yours. No, the whole idea is like I don't

848
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: want to bake, and it was really cute. We had

849
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: a really fun that's a good idea with it. But

850
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, in the spirit of Big Little Pies. I

851
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: don't know when this comes out, but October seventeenth, Succession

852
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: Season three comes out and we are going to have

853
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: the Succession Suck Session, which is an ice cream social

854
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: and popsicle gathering where we have homemade popsicles and ice

855
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: creams like roasted Strawjerry buttermilk cousin Greg Nogg Beautiful served

856
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: in Wistar roy Cones, homemade roy Cones.

857
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's the thing we haven't mentioned about your business,

858
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon, is that every cookie has kind of a name,

859
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: a terrible pun, terrible pun baking name. Wait, did these

860
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: bars have a name?

861
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: You know? I call them Sneaker Little Cheesecake Bars. But

862
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: my friend Chelsey, well she gave me the name. If

863
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: you really want to call it something, you can call

864
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: it Lana del Cakes, send it time cheeseeness, not doing it.

865
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: I refuse those words.

866
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's good to know that an attempt was

867
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: made like it.

868
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: And it kind of does taste like a cop lover.

869
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: You know, you when you sink your teeth into it,

870
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: it tastes like a yeah, problematic them fetel.

871
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: This is the thing with a del Rey for me

872
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: is I think I've heard maybe twenty seconds of Lana

873
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: del Reray, yet I know almost everything about her outside

874
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: of her.

875
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: Could you do one second impression of her? Yeah?

876
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: Is that close?

877
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would be like.

878
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: Kind of like someone maybe dying on top of a piano,

879
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: like lying there, like wasting away on.

880
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: Top of a piano in like fifties.

881
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: Right, like Marilyn Monroe's dying breath on top of brand Yeah.

882
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but that's on top of a

883
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: cattle park next to the beach. People love Lana. I

884
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: have nothing against her. I just I don't know that what.

885
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: I've just never sought her out yet. Her influence on

886
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: culture is.

887
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Enormous, unparalleled. I mean, listen, I think she's a tremendous songwriter.

888
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: Norman fing Rockwell, that was that I've heard. I think

889
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: she's terrific. It's just interesting to parse out. It's it's

890
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: an interesting I think empowers the music critic over at MPR.

891
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: She drew a lot of parallels to like what she

892
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: does in her music. What Lana does and what Randy

893
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: Newman used to do in his music, which is like

894
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: a lot of satire singing and character. But I think

895
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: what we didn't anticipate, especially with Lana, was like she's

896
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: kind of for real and she's like, it's not a character.

897
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: I really believe some of those weird stuff, and it's like, oh, okay,

898
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: well and that is different. Oh, Lana reach out.

899
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll bring a gift. She'll bring me a gift.

900
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: She will write me a song that's problematic in some way.

901
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: What a great gift? Has anyone done a music oriented

902
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: gift on this show? The only and you're one hundred

903
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: and forty four episodes of the show.

904
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: He was one. The gift from the very beginning is

905
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: Amy Man wrote the theme song and performed, which maybe

906
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: the best gift I will ever receive man Man.

907
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Indeed.

908
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that Amy men notice me in any

909
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: way is still shocking to me. The Magnoli podcasting, you know,

910
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: like this is this is equivalent and I Magnol you,

911
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm forgetting your Frank DJ Mackie, you respect the pod

912
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: and tame the cast. Yeah, that is the one musical

913
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: thing that's been given to me. So far. But look,

914
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: we've you know this episode airs in twenty twenty four.

915
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: There's multiple guests in the meantime. Somebody could write me

916
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: a song, somebody could do a dance. I hope I'm

917
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: not forgetting somebody who's like, who wrote me a meaning?

918
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: Guitars?

919
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: Okay, it's time to play a game. Oh, do you

920
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 3: want to play Gift or a Curse or Gift Master.

921
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how to play when we get playing.

922
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: Oh, but I don't know how to play until I

923
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: pick one. Yes, that's the dangers Gift Masters. Yes, okay,

924
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: let's do a gift a curse. Okay.

925
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: I need to number between one and ten from you

926
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: for Okay, I have to do some light calculat Okay.

927
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: So while I'm doing this, you can promote, you can recommend,

928
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: you can do whatever you want.

929
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's been out for three years, but The Chair

930
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: on Netflix starring Sandra Oh taking a look at the

931
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: world of academia a terrific show. What's funny is Amanda

932
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: Pete created it along with another woman. Amanda Pete is

933
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: the wife of David Benioff, who did a show called

934
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: Game of Throne. So why sint Benioff produced the show.

935
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: In some of my cheeky little line about that show,

936
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: The Chair, it's a six episode, half hour show on Netflix,

937
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: is you know what, that's the best thing why some

938
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: Benioff ever did on TV. And everyone's like, oh, by

939
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: stand by.

940
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: The Chair, I've heard it's good. Yeah, Sandra, oh National Treasure,

941
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: that's all I know about it. And then this Benioff

942
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: and et cetera.

943
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: Sandra oh, holland Taylor.

944
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that aside, it's time for Gift her curse.

945
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: This is how we play. I'm gonna name three things.

946
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me if there're a gift or a

947
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: curse and why? Okay, Now you have to be extremely

948
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: careful because there are correct answers. This isn't just some

949
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: opinion thing. This isn't just how does Kevin feel today?

950
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: What does Kevin think? This is there are correct answers,

951
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: So be careful. You don't want to lose. That'd be

952
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: so shameful.

953
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't want to shame myself on it.

954
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: Right, You've done it enough already. Whoa that was embarrassing?

955
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: Good grief Number one, Gift or a curse?

956
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: Quicksand quick sand Oh, that's it, you know. I mean

957
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: my instinct is a curse, but that I feel like

958
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: you're being a little tricky dicky and I may not

959
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: should pick that one is curse. So no, I'm going

960
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: to find my heart. I'll say curse and because quicksand

961
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: if I step into it will curse me to the grave,

962
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: I believe, because there's no getting out of that for me,

963
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: any sort of like bodily harm I encounter in my life,

964
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fully give myself over to immediately.

965
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: Okay, look, Kevin, you got it. Oh great quick sense.

966
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely a course, maybe not for the reason you're saying.

967
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: For me personally, I love the idea of quicksand I

968
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: love the idea of getting stuck in quicksand it sounds exotic,

969
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: it sounds exciting, sounds like, you know, uh, what a

970
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: thrill to be trapped in a pool of sand that

971
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: is going to suck you into the earth. It's in

972
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: your garden. Yeah, it's something that only the likes of

973
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: Indiana Jones or Katina Jones rip. That death could have

974
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: been avoided if she had just stepped around the trap.

975
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: But we all know that her skeleton is resting at

976
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: the bottom of kind of a soupy sand.

977
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: And it's gorgeous for me.

978
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: I would love to get stuck in quicksand. Has anyone

979
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: actually does it exist? Does it quick sand?

980
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: Actually?

981
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: I feel like it's only.

982
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: In duct tails. No, it must exist. Okay.

983
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: On Alyse is pointing out a does quicksand exist?

984
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

985
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: And now here we go. This is the information from

986
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: a quick Google search. So don't take I don't want

987
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: to put anyone in danger. But he says, nope. Quicksand

988
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: that is sand that behaves as liquid because it's saturated

989
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: with water. Can be a mucky nuisance, but it's basically

990
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: impossible to die in the way that is depicted in movies.

991
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: That's because quicksand is denser than the human body. And

992
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: that's from Britannic. So I don't know if I you know,

993
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: look quicksand. So I think ultimately it is a curse, though,

994
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: because it's kind of this lifelong dream of mine to

995
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: die aita, okay in a pool of quicksand, and it

996
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's gonna happen.

997
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry I had to find out this fight.

998
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: I know live on a podcast. I would of course

999
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 3: love to edit out this dash dream from the episode.

1000
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: But we're gonna live in and we'll kind of like

1001
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: the last twenty to thirty minutes of this episode. Right yeah, Okay, great,

1002
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: we are letting we're confronting issues on this podcast. We're

1003
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: facing them in a positive way. And my dash dream

1004
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: has been confronted. Quick sand doesn't exist.

1005
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: It's a curse. It's the second most wanted way to

1006
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: die for.

1007
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: You thrown from a plane. Okay, I'm not going to

1008
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: have children, unfortunately, but the hope was, I mean, the

1009
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: dream would be to have grandchildren. Have a will that

1010
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: stipulates if you want this, you have to throw me

1011
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: from a plane.

1012
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: I think you could get grandchildren. I think you could

1013
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: have like a surrogacy thing, and then like stipulate I

1014
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: don't want the kid, but I want the grand kid.

1015
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: Then looks like only grandchildren exist.

1016
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 3: My look, this is what the goal is. Now, I'm

1017
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: maybe one of my nieces will have kids. I'll have grandchildren.

1018
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: Grand What does that become a grand niece? I guess

1019
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: that's a grand niece. Yeah, that makes sense.

1020
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. It becomes a headache speaking of someone

1021
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: who hasn't seen his nieces or nephews in four years

1022
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: because of the pandemic, of course, the pandemic that's been

1023
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: raging since twenty seventeen.

1024
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: Grand nieces and nephews will be required to throw me

1025
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: from a plane, okay if they want those bucks. So

1026
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: obviously the quicksand is not an option. So they're gonna

1027
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: you know, there'll be tears, there'll be thrills, there'll be

1028
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: grand thrills plummeting towards earth. And then they'll probably have

1029
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: to use the money for legal fees, I assume, because

1030
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: now suddenly they're murderers. It's complicated.

1031
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: I can put a gop on you and make a

1032
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: pretty sick TikTok though, that would be cool.

1033
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: Okay, you're one for one so far. This is very impressive.

1034
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: Number two. This is from a listener named Phoebe. Phoebe

1035
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 3: has suggested gift he a curse corn on the cob.

1036
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: Oh. You know, I feel like for me, it takes

1037
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: me back to Texas. Cuisine is very near and dear

1038
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: to my heart. So going to a local Texas establishment

1039
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: like Chili's Chili and going to get the chicken crisper,

1040
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: the sidur fries and a corn on the cop it

1041
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: takes me back to like right after church, no one

1042
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: knows where to go for lunch. We all end up

1043
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: going to Chili's, even though no one actually wants to

1044
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: go there, but we decided it's fine. We'll get the

1045
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: chicken crisperries. We get the fries, and we get the

1046
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: corner on the cop and I could see for like

1047
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: the more toothy Amonga said, it could be a little

1048
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: problematic getting in that corn on the cop'n fallow my

1049
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: heart again and say it's a gift. I think it's

1050
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: a gift. Flavor wise, it's a gift. And maybe that's

1051
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: just the sweet corn crunch ice cream in my head

1052
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: talking right now, mind.

1053
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: Saying gift, Kevin. No, shoot, sorry, Dexter. Dexter is freaking out. No,

1054
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: Dexter's fine, He's perfectly what we've got. We'll post some.

1055
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: Sort of picture to the instagram of the dog. He

1056
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: is a gem.

1057
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: But we can't get into Dexter right now because I

1058
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: need to tell you why. And on the cob as

1059
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: a curse, it's because it's gross corn. I like surprisingly

1060
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: corn things the ice cream you describe and wonderful. I

1061
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: love a corn chip. I love a corn tortilla, but

1062
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: give it to me on the cob. Corny I love,

1063
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: I love corny. I love a corny performer. I love

1064
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: a corny entertainment.

1065
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: But you love corn Ballly Ray, you love who is

1066
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: that girl puts your corns on?

1067
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 3: We're getting way way out of my It's the corn world.

1068
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: Corn on the cob, curse Chili's out of all that

1069
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: type of wrist runt. Now, listen, I haven't been there

1070
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: since two thousand and one. Seems like the best of those.

1071
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 3: Would you say that you know.

1072
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: The restaurants, You'll definitely better than Applebee's better than when

1073
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: people compare shake check to it. And now it's like shake

1074
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: Check's better because it's not even in the same category.

1075
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: What oh god, I'm not even going to get into that.

1076
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: We're not approaching that. There's a screaming podcast. Uh, you've

1077
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: gotten one attitude so far. So you're in dangerous territory

1078
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 3: and that's fine. This third one is also a listener suggestion.

1079
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: Someone named Kelsey has written in Gift or a Curse,

1080
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: couples who sit on the same side of the booth

1081
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 3: at a restaurant.

1082
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: Well, my instinct is cursed because I remember being so

1083
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 2: annoyed by that, especially, like I know, I remember ten

1084
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: years ago being annoyed by that, maybe because I linkl

1085
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: in my head two couples that would get married and

1086
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: then merge their Facebook accounts, oh boy, or their social

1087
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: media accounts. But there's something lovely about people being committed

1088
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: to each other and desiron closeness. But I'm gonna let

1089
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: my cynism rule this and say it's a curse.

1090
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: Kevin, You're right, Okay, I can't make an argument. There's

1091
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: no world where I'm going to argue that's a gift.

1092
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: So this is three curses in a row. Look, we

1093
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: live in.

1094
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: A cursed world, a cursed age, and we especially this year.

1095
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 3: Well we got the election stuff that's going on in

1096
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. We've been through a lot. Oh gosh,

1097
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 3: the Zeta varying end. Oh, we hated it crawled out

1098
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: of that quicksand out of her her body, out of

1099
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: the skeletons. Zeta was patient carrying that thing and the

1100
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: quicksand revealed it and kind of you know, that specter

1101
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: flew out of the quicksand nobody saw it coming. But

1102
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: it was exciting.

1103
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: It was exciting, so it was fun.

1104
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: And then you know, it's essentially just Kevin and I

1105
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: left here on earth, and we're hoping this reaches the

1106
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: outer limits that someone hears our voices.

1107
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 2: Rescue us.

1108
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: We're two people sitting on the same side of a

1109
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 3: booth at a restaurant.

1110
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: Here on Earth. We are, that's what it feels like,

1111
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: is the one judging? I forgot that.

1112
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: Look, But that is their job as producer is to

1113
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: kind of vanish and on realise does an excellent job,

1114
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: only revealing when there's some piece of news, such as

1115
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: the quick and knowledge. Okay, back to the people on

1116
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: the same side of a booth. I've worked at restaurants.

1117
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: I've been at restaurants. Okay, what are we doing if

1118
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 3: there's another look, if there's somebody else on the other

1119
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: side of the booth. Of course you can sit next

1120
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: to each other, but what do you do, Like, how

1121
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: are you having a conversation sitting next to each other?

1122
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: I like it when it is like, yeah, a couple

1123
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: of them, their friend on the other side.

1124
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: I think that that makes sense. That's like makes some

1125
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: logical sense. But when it's just them and then there's

1126
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: an empty side of the booth, unless they're communicating with

1127
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: the dead. We're not at a sock hop. We're not

1128
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: you know, here we go.

1129
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: If we're not at a sock cop Yes.

1130
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: You are not sitting next to each other unless the

1131
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: other part of the booth is occupied.

1132
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: I am now.

1133
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: Imagining kind of the haunted mansion of it all when

1134
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: you go through and like you have the ghosts next

1135
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: to you or do you know that?

1136
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: Of course yes, it would be a little hot grand produce.

1137
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: So if that's happening, If something like that's happening in

1138
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: the restaurant and you're talking to the ghost of you know,

1139
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: Chili's okay, go for it. Otherwise get out. Don't do that.

1140
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: It bothers everybody. Nobody can understand what's going on in

1141
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: your relationship. If you're sharing a Facebook account, of course

1142
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: that's well trodden territory. Obviously someone was cheating at some point.

1143
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: Curse, curse, okay, curse two Disney adults sitting on the

1144
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 2: same side of the booth. One's wearing a goofy hat.

1145
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: On'es wearing many hat Can they make you work? I

1146
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: don't know, Kevin.

1147
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: You got two out of three?

1148
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: I got two out of three.

1149
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: That's that feels pretty good. It's a majority Corn on

1150
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: the cobs, a tricky one. Nobody blames you for that. Look,

1151
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: we have to This is the final segment of the podcast.

1152
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: It's called they Said No Emails. We have to answer

1153
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: a listener question, Oh lovely, are you in the mood?

1154
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the mood. How many? How many of

1155
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: these do you get a week? Like?

1156
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: Get too many? Which you can feel sometimes. Look, I

1157
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: don't want to discourage people they write into I said

1158
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: no gifts at gmail dot com. I'm trying to be

1159
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: as helpful as possible, but there's only I can only

1160
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: give so much. My guests can only give so much.

1161
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: Here's why I get intimidated by I always. You know, I

1162
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 2: saw the documentary and then the movie starring Tom Hanks,

1163
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: and then I read the book The Biography of Mister Rogers,

1164
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: of Fred Rodgers, and his big thing with correspondence is

1165
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: that he would respond to literally every single person who

1166
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: wrote in which incredible. I mean, what which we always like,

1167
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: I feel like guys like us, you know, like we

1168
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: talk about like so many emails and stuff, and I'm like, yeah,

1169
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: but we probably still never got as many as email

1170
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: like snail mail stuff but he still did it.

1171
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: I will say this, I respond to every email, really,

1172
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: just I try to respond to every email like you know,

1173
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: respond Yeah, I got it. I read the email, respond

1174
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: to it, and say I'll try to get to it

1175
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: as quickly as I can. That's it. That's very as relative.

1176
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay on top of it. I'm trying

1177
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: to be a professional. But again, there's only so much

1178
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: I can do, and my blood sugar is frequently very

1179
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: low and.

1180
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: So freaking your mouth.

1181
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll eat some movies.

1182
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: And you know, respond to more. I don't know. That's email,

1183
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: feel right there, that's what you're.

1184
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: Looking Okay, this is the question. Uh, let's see here.

1185
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: This is kind of a long one. So buckle in.

1186
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: Hello Bridger and despicably disrespectful guest with no honor. So

1187
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: usually they kind of butter up the guests. This person's

1188
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: just this person's I don't know, and it's honored with

1189
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: the you.

1190
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: It's because I'm I'm a bad boy who disobeyed and

1191
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: brought right.

1192
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: This person knew where you were coming. Okay, honored with

1193
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 3: the you. So we're immediately dealing with someone outside of

1194
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: the United States, so be prepared I'm a huge fan

1195
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: oh interesting, and have been listening to your podcast since

1196
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: the very beginning.

1197
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: God bless you. I am someone who thinks.

1198
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: He is relatively good at gifting, at least with my family,

1199
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: but I find myself in a lifting perdicament and desperately

1200
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: need your help. At the beginning of the month, I

1201
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: moved into a new apartment in downtown Toronto. There we

1202
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: go outside of the United States. We're dealing with a Canadian.

1203
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: On movin day, I was greeted by many friendly residents

1204
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: of my apartment building and had small talk while carrying

1205
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: boxes up to my unit. Everyone was so friendly and welcoming.

1206
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: Halfway through the day, once the truck was unloaded and

1207
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: I was unboxing my belongings, I received a knock on

1208
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: the door from a friendly older man in the building.

1209
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: He welcomed me to the building and gifted me a

1210
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: bottle of red wine from him and his partner. Nothing fancy. Okay, well,

1211
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 3: look it may have been fancy for him. I feel

1212
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: like criticizing the bottle of wine is a little cruel.

1213
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: I kindly too chug real cheap shit. This guy's broke.

1214
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 3: I kindly thanked him and accepted the wine before he

1215
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: left me to continue unpacking. I asked my friends afterward

1216
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: if I'm now obligated to give him a thank you

1217
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: gift or a card of some sort, to which I

1218
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: received mixed responses. How many people did you reach out

1219
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 3: to here? Did you crowdsource this?

1220
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: Respect?

1221
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean, ask one person, and now you're asking a podcast. Okay,

1222
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: it's now been a month since I move, possibly longer

1223
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: depending on when you read this. It is twenty twenty four.

1224
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: As mentioned multiple times, you and this man could be

1225
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: dead and I still haven't done anything about the gift.

1226
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 3: Does eighty, of course taken care of them? Should I

1227
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: feel bad for not reaching out over a gift from

1228
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: a stranger? To make matters worse? I completely forgot his name.

1229
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 3: I do that all the time. Most of the people

1230
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: in my life I don't know their name. That's my

1231
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: big secret. This is me Bridger saying that, not this person.

1232
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: I completely forgot his name, his partner's name, and his

1233
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: unit numbers, so I don't even know how I would

1234
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: give him a card or gift. Okay, we're not done.

1235
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 3: Do I owe him a gift? Do I seem like

1236
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: an unappreciative millennial they all are, and Glenn Beck here,

1237
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: let's say, for not delivering a gift or thank you card?

1238
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: Do I admit to forgetting their name? If I run

1239
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: into them? Should I just move again so that I

1240
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: never run into him again? Or should I get plastic surgery?

1241
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

1242
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: What are we talking about here? And I need your

1243
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: help to put my conscience at ease? Okay, sincerely, Kai

1244
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: from Toronto. He hi, okay, Kai, you've look first of all, Kai,

1245
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: this could have been three sentence as long you know it.

1246
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: Kevin knows that I know it, on alas knows it

1247
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: you sent in an encyclopedia. I'm so lost. I'm in

1248
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: quick saying.

1249
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: No, I got this. Okay, I got it because I've

1250
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: been in this exact same situation, but now as the recipient,

1251
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: but as the giff. Oh I am now at the

1252
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: place I live, which I won't dox myself for. But

1253
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: as far as my units go, and the people that

1254
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: my landlord, that people who pay money for rent his tenants,

1255
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm his most veteran tenant of all them. And the

1256
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: situation is one where I only share a wall with

1257
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: one person, but then it's units in front like little

1258
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: like separate houses. Oh sure, sure, or like little separate units.

1259
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: And so what I do every time someone new moves

1260
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: in is I beg them something like that, right, I

1261
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: type them a type written hard Sam, Welcome to the neighborhood.

1262
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: Here's a little gift to goodies. Blah blah blah. Here's

1263
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 2: my phone number just in case you need me right

1264
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: for anything, if there's anything you need. Just trying to

1265
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: be a good names What are you hiding, Kevin Well?

1266
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: The motive isn't fully altruistic because it is sewing Well

1267
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: I mean, but hopefully it's reciprocal and that it's like

1268
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 2: sowing the seeds of being a good neighbor where it's like, hey,

1269
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: I got a little dog named Dexter. Sometimes he whinds

1270
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: when I leave. It's not annoying and just general neighbors stuff.

1271
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: And even just like that little bit of a relationship

1272
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: will pay off dividends in the future if you just

1273
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: established and I even like we're best friends out but

1274
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: just like, hey, I'm not insane and like weird, I'm

1275
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 2: not a weird person. You can eat this thing. Here's

1276
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: this cute little dude I've kept alive. I don't expect

1277
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: a gift and return to explain people do it. I

1278
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: think in the times I've done it, I've put my

1279
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: phone number on it so they have my number, and

1280
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: they've usually text me like, oh the cookie, We're so good,

1281
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: thanks so much. That's all it is, and that's all

1282
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: I need. I don't need a gift and return. I

1283
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: don't think it becomes like a like a never ending

1284
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: feedback loop that you enter into by just receiving a gift.

1285
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: I think the neighbor Kai is probably expecting nothing in return.

1286
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: I think the idea is just neighborly.

1287
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: Good will, a smile in the hallway.

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Speaker 2: It's not a trap to get into, like, Okay, now

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Speaker 2: I gave him a gift, now he gives me. I

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Speaker 2: get like, it's not I don't think that's actually what's

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Speaker 2: going on. And I think it's fully fine to admit

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Speaker 2: that you don't know someone's name.

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Speaker 3: Two words Rosemary's baby. Okay, this person could be trying

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: to get into Kay's life. Ah, you know, I kind

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: of subtly trying to. You know, Satan needs to have

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Speaker 3: a baby, and Kai, for whatever reason, is the choice.

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Speaker 3: And this Satanist and his partner have brought the bottle

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Speaker 3: of wine.

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Speaker 2: I think you. All I'm gonna say is be careful,

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Speaker 2: be careful, and you know what after Bridger said that,

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: I think that is correct, kind of forget everything I said.

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Speaker 3: Be on the look, always be looking over your shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Kai for this sweet older gentleman and his partner, maybe Satan.

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: We don't know.

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01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: We would love to follow it right, Not so many

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 3: details in this email yet no mention of Satan being

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01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: the partner could have helped a lot, could have provided

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: some clarity here, Kai, better luck next time writing an email.

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Speaker 3: And I can't give you any more anymore suggestions or help.

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Speaker 3: That's on you. Kevin. Yes, I cannot wait to eat

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Speaker 3: this street.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to.

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Speaker 3: I probably should have eaten it on the podcast, but

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Speaker 3: then I wonder, I'm very cautious about mouth noise.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course you would take the microphone away, like

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: what are we dealing with? Just silence? Should I take

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01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: a bite and have a silence the vamp in the

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Speaker 2: whole time?

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Speaker 3: Be like, okay, we thought it was the end of

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Speaker 3: the podcast. I'm about to eat part of this tree.

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01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: Well and part of part of it, and you can

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01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: gun and digging. I want to say this, but part

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01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: of what I thought might happen is like, oh, I'll

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: make him eat it and him yes, what it is

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Speaker 2: whilst eating?

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Speaker 3: That would have been an excellent thing.

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Speaker 2: That would have been diabolical and perfect. What's some other

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Speaker 2: stuff that would have been better that we didn't do?

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Speaker 3: Start over the recording. Let's get back into it. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to I said, nopek, Hey, let's do it. I'm bridger

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Speaker 3: winding on alas, do you want to try this too?

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Speaker 3: Let's split one of these were off Mike. Kevin can

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Speaker 3: do whatever he wants.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice. Well, Kevin want one? You know

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Speaker 2: I've had one some good thank you I did, sayshy

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Speaker 2: my palette before coming here. You know, this is the

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Speaker 2: second time I've made this recipe, and it came out

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Speaker 2: a little softer this time, more like almost a monkey

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Speaker 2: bread if you're familiar, I'm sure you are, uh in

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Speaker 2: a little bit different. The last time it was a

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Speaker 2: bit of a crispier bar, which I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that to do with like using tinfoil or not when

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: I baked it. But honestly a not difficult recipe to

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Speaker 2: do for people wanting to do it.

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Speaker 3: Phenomenal great that. I mean frequently there will be a

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Speaker 3: baked good with the cheesecake element that doesn't read the cheesecake.

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Speaker 3: You This has the texture of cheesecake, which is something

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Speaker 3: that most baked goods with the cheesecake lack.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, well, you gotta chill it. That's the thing.

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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: You gotta chill it after you bake it.

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Speaker 3: But it's also a snickerdoodle, everyone's favorite cookie.

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Speaker 2: To say, do you think you would have been able

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: to guess what it was just purely by taste?

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Speaker 3: This is what I wouldn't have been able to say, snickered? Well,

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: maybe I would have started thinking, what is he doing?

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01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: I would have said cinnamon crumbled cheesecake, which is which

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01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: is technically correct, another name.

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Speaker 2: For a snickerdodle. That's very accurate.

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Speaker 3: Whoever came up with the snicker noodle, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what were they doing.

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Speaker 2: They were laughing while drawing.

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 3: They were laughing.

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01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: Perfect, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I waited till the very end of the podcast to

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Speaker 3: eat the dessert, and I hope that that that.

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Speaker 2: Throwing climax, you know, yeah, you've got there's a three

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Speaker 2: X structure beginning mental and in this is the Appleogus.

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Speaker 3: You're satisfying conclusion. Kevin, thank you, this was so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, What a nice time.

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Speaker 3: And Dexter, thank you for being here and being such.

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Speaker 2: A polite dog. He says, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: He said it in full of English. I'm very impressed.

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Speaker 3: And listener, this is the end of the podcast, you know,

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Speaker 3: and we recorded it in my.

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Speaker 2: Office, and I appreciate you putting up with pandemic audio

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01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: in every way and form. I think people are used

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: to it, you know what. People are listening to this

1379
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: at home or in their cars or on their commutes,

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Speaker 2: and they're saying, this sounds like my echo office. This

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: sounds like the bathroom stall I go in to cry

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01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: when I'm at work. Sounds like home.

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01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: For me, the listener, it feels great to cry together.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you were here. Take care, goodbye, I said,

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Speaker 3: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and

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Speaker 3: engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and the theme

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Speaker 3: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

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Speaker 3: the show on Instagram. At I said No Gifts, that's

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1390
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts, listen

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Speaker 3: and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me,

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Speaker 2: While you're there.

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Speaker 3: It's really the least you could do considering everything I

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,400
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Speaker 2: I invit, did you hear?

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Speaker 1: Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me,

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Speaker 1: you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest,

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Speaker 1: your presences. That's enough. I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?