1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio One day after a Super Bowl. My 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: yelling into this mic, it feels you sound like you 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl. How do you do? What 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: was your stat line? Freaking no catches and hungover? As 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: my stat line? I really had a great time. You 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: went to the game? How was it? It was good? 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: It was good. I have a lot of thoughts about that. Um, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: I just well, first of all, what a game? Right 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: it was? I get jealous when it's not on our 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: network because I want to be covering it. I think 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: that's where I have a lot of fomo about the 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: whole thing, and um yeah, I just I have anxiety 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: not being there. I have anxiety when the players are 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: on the field and I'm not down there. I have 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: anxiety when Odell Beckham is going back to the locker 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: room and I can't talk to Neil and know what's happening. 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to sit back and watch. I'd 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: love to know any other job that feels that way. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Maybe Tom Brady felt that way when he sat back 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: and he watched him self not playing in a super Bowl. 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: How about the time or the calendar for those guys 23 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: that didn't see his post. He had a calendar um 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: a reminder that popped up on his phone, and it 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: was to say that he was supposed to be playing 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl, which is kind of and he 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: wrote ship and I DMed him and I said, enough 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: is enough to stop this right now? Come back? I mean, well, 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: I'm still interested to see the fact that you know, 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: and I know I made a big bigger deal of 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: this than maybe it is. But he never said he 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: was retiring in that whole soliloquy of a speech he 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: gave or Instagram posts. So Aaron, I know you're not 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: a gambler in the sense of which, by the way, 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: how about me winning the pool? Yeah, my friends pool, 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: the hockey pool. You were in it. You wanted dang it. 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: I wanted of a random thing where it was just 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: like picking like who would score first? What was you know, 39 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: who would whatever more? Receiving yards the Bengals or the 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: anthem ring. Jared literally sat there in time to the 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: anthem and he was like, oh, shoot, come on, come on, 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: keep it longer. He's longer. So that was fun. But 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Ram's winning Super Bowl fifty six, it was very poetic. 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the first team that ever won 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in their home stadium was the Tampa 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers last year, and then to have it followed 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: up again with the Rams this year. I was really 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: excited to have all of those guys. You know how 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: we feel about Matthew and Andrew Whitworth. I mean, how 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: about that guy, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald crying at the end. 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: My god, I wanted to ball for him. Is Aaron 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Donald not gonna be playing next year? Because all that 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: point game coverage was about like him not returning, and 54 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: like is Andrew returning? It's Sean McVeigh returning. A lot 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: of departures, potentially Sean McVeigh. The Andrew Whitworth stuff I 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: have heard. I have heard those rumors, and it wouldn't 57 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: surprise me about both. But the Aaron Donald won the 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: only reason I think Rodney Harrison started that. I'm not sure, 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: but I saw a tweet that he put up there. 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: But the only thing I would say about Aaron Donald 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: and just being able to talk to him and listen 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: to other people. He put so much into it, and 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: I know they all do. I get that they all do, 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: but you just saw his emotion. He and he kept saying, 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: this is the only thing I don't have. But I 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: don't I don't see him. And I was listening to 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger this morning on Good Morning Football because he 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: usually has a good sense. I don't know. I hope 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: that's not the case. But man, he wanted it so bad. 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: I was so happy for him. But holy crap, Cincinnati. 71 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: They came in there and they lived up to their 72 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: end of the bargain as well. I mean, Jamaar Chase, 73 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Signed to every endorsement out there. 74 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: Stupid guys. Unreal. And then when Joe Burrow went down 75 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: and I was texting you, I was like, this looks 76 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: so bad. It looked like the same knee that he 77 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: tore his a c L on last year, and it 78 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: just again. And Odell Beckham went out with that same 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: knee injury that he sustained in against the Bengals. Ironically, 80 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: it's just I was so impressed with Joe Burrow, the 81 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: poise that this young man has year two in the NFL, 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: to sit up at that podium and just have such 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: an incredible outlook. I remember him saying that he had 84 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: watched the Kurt Warner Football Life and that when you lose, 85 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: to be able to step away, and obviously, as a competitor, 86 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the last thing you want is to lose, but to 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: be able to take a positive away from it and say, hey, 88 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: we've made it this far and it's something to build 89 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: off of. He just I'm constantly impressed with him and 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: just the poise that he has at a very young age. 91 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: He's it's easy to root for someone like him. And 92 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: of course in these games there's always a winner and 93 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: a loser. But in this particular case, I was happy 94 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: to have all of those guys, the von Miller's of 95 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the world, you know, all these guys come over Jalen 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and have it end up in a 97 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl victory. So, my boy, it was. It was great. 98 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: It was a great game. I'm you know, I'm I'm 99 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: glad it was a game. It's really hard to be 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: at a football game. For me. I have to hear 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: the broadcast. I have to hear what's happening. That's why 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I kept asking you. I kept looking on Twitter. I 103 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: just want to know what people are saying. I need 104 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: my Pereira. I want to know about the calls very 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: I'm very spoiled in all of that. I just I 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: like to know what other people are saying because and 107 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: we should remind people of this. You have an i 108 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: FB in out the games that you're working, and so 109 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: you're hearing the broadcast, right, So when you're sitting there 110 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: and as an observer and you're not getting that, does 111 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: it feel like you're disjointed a little bit from the 112 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: game all of it? And it's hard to because I 113 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: people are sitting there, they don't care about the game, 114 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: they're there for the social and I just that's not me. 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't like to be around people that aren't dialed 116 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 1: in um, that are just there for the halftime show, 117 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: which holy crap was amazing as well. Another thing I 118 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: thought was better on television. Okay, that's my question was 119 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: so on TV is I mean, you know, and everyone 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: says this. I feel like every year everyone's like, this 121 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: is the greatest, you know, halftime performance of all time 122 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: in person. Is it because it's hard to hear or what? 123 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: What takes away from it? Yeah, like, listen, there's an echo. 124 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Obviously we were on this side that all the houses 125 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: opened up too. But I think on television, you could 126 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: follow the storyline. Those were their houses where they grew 127 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: up in California. That was their area. Then we saw 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: the lights on the field, but we didn't know it 129 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: was the grid of Compton and their area, Like, we 130 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: didn't know that. And then just as my sister, My 131 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: sister said it perfectly. She's a dancer. She said, yes, 132 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: but that whole show is choreographed for camera, not for 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: you sitting there at home. I got home, I watched 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: the whole thing four times again. It was unbelieved you. Yeah, 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: you missed so much sitting there. Plus, I love a performance. 136 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: I thought Dre was so hot and he moved his 137 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: body good and he looked great. Piano yeah says that. 138 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: What's fifty cent doing upside down? Did we know what 139 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: that was about? That was from his video? What video 140 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: that was in the video? Oh? I didn't know. I 141 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: didn't know what we were doing there. That was all 142 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: like kicking it back and like paying homage to the video. 143 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I also died, Like those girls were so hot. I 144 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: loved watching them. It was great. I it was so 145 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: awesome to go back and watch it on television. Yeah, 146 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: it was amazing. I was very happy that it was 147 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: a game. You know, you mentioned at the beginning, it's 148 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: like just you that's all you want. You wanted to 149 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: be interesting, and like that final drive and then with 150 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow getting the ball with that much time, I mean, 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: you think about what Patrick Mahomes was able to do, 152 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know against Buffalo scoring in thirteen seconds. It's like 153 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: any time left on the clock. With these kinds of guys, 154 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: you never know what they're gonna do. So I was 155 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: just happy that it was a game, and I just 156 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: think it's so sweet, you know when you watch all 157 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the families on the field at the end of the 158 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: game and the confetti and then what Aaron Donald said 159 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to his daughter, like promising her that she would make 160 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: it onto the field and stuff, so you know those things. 161 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: I was staying to Jared, I'm so sad in hockey 162 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: that there's no confetti because that just looks so cute 163 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: to like lay in there. I was like, we're so 164 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: worried about on the ice slipping and falling and you're 165 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: shuffling your feet and everybody's playing with their kids and 166 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: running around and like this is so opposite of what 167 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: we get to do. I mean, we get to drink 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: out of the cup. You can't drink out of the Lombardy. 169 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: But how did that? How did that mark with the cup? 170 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: How many days do you get it? You just get 171 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: it for a day. I think it was also interesting 172 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: watching my husband. My husband gets so emotional for celebrations 173 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: because he, you know, was just like he we sat 174 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: there and we watched the whole celebration and this person 175 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: suite that invited us, and I know that they probably 176 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: wanted to go. But Jared Love I think it takes 177 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: him back and it reminds him about like what he 178 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: went through. But yeah, he's just like, I have goose bumps. 179 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: This is so awesome. I'm like, I know it is. 180 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: It's great. I'm also impressed that Jared stayed around for 181 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: the celebration. Isn't he quick to get out exit stage left? Yeah, 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: but I think it's different when guys win it. Like 183 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: I remember when Troy Troy posted yesterday about there's nothing 184 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: that feels like this good and you and you heard 185 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: I heard von Miller say that to me. I have 186 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: during the NFC Championship, which just I want them to 187 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: experience heaven. That's why he and Aaron Donald on the 188 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: post game set, we're saying, what does heaven feel like? Yeah, 189 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: I think athletes would have been there. They like to 190 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: sit there and kind of appreciate it and be reminded 191 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of what it felt like when they wanted. But as 192 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: soon as we left the stadium, we were running through 193 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: the crowds and we out of there, and we got 194 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: out of there. We had it pretty organized with our 195 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: ride and where we were going to meet him. And 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: my husband is so good, like being a survivor with him, 197 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: we would win because he's yeah, we would yes, amazing race. 198 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: He would nail it in a second. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 199 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: that was It was like a very fairy tale ending 200 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: to that whole story for them. And um I heard 201 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: Stan Crockey talk at the end of the game and 202 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, someone had asked him like, oh, 203 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: could you have dreamed this up? And he's like, yeah, 204 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: I did. That's why I wanted to. Yeah, Jesus not 205 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: to mention that used my draft picks. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 206 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: but they had to. I mean we talked about this. 207 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot like with the Los Angeles Kings did 208 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: at the time. They they spend it all. I mean 209 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: they used all their draft picks. They got to win now, 210 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: so thank god they did for the city and and 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: all that, because you know, it's kind of now is 212 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the time. We don't be rebuilding in the next couple 213 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: of years, but this is the time to win it. 214 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: So good for them, it's great, it's awesome. Congratulations to 215 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. The first Super Bowl championship for 216 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: the l A Rams. The last time the Rams when 217 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: it was when they win St. Louis in So congrats 218 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: to them. And now the football season is officially over, 219 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: which makes us sad. But then we will turn our 220 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: attention on our podcast to a bunch of things that 221 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: we will be doing in the off season. That is 222 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: it for our mini episode. More to come over on 223 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: the Calm Down podcast. Calm Down with Aaron and Karissa 224 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts 225 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio, visit the i Heart Radio app, 226 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.