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Speaker 2: Listen Kaibelan. There's something that I love about jet lag,

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Speaker 2: But we had some great storylines, we had Ammaranakano. What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed that. He said, you know, when I

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Speaker 3: I think it's as probable as Novak winning it's actually

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Speaker 3: He's won fourteen Grand slams now, so he'll be going

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Speaker 1: like the Stephanigraph of women's wheelchair haunters. Yeah, which, you know,

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Speaker 1: just utter Dominesian domination. But you know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: if you ever have a chance to go watch those matches,

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Speaker 1: they're usually towards the end of the tournament because the

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Speaker 1: draws are smaller. I've had incredibly humbling viewing experiences watching

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Speaker 1: just how good the tennis is, you know, and some

443
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Speaker 1: cool results on the juniors. All of this is to

444
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Speaker 1: say I'm avoiding talking about the men's final year because

445
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Speaker 1: I was so disappointed that hot beefcake Materio Barattini didn't

446
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Speaker 1: make more.

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Speaker 2: Of a well, I think that, you know, the good

448
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Speaker 2: thing is sad about it. I think that he was

449
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Speaker 2: very close.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I mean, he came out very nervous,

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Speaker 3: which is totally understandable, but you know, he you've got

452
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Speaker 3: to be in those moments sometimes.

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Speaker 2: And experience them before you can learn how to win them.

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Speaker 2: And he's also playing against arguably the greatest player of

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Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean, I think at this point

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Speaker 1: we can say Novak is the men's greatest player of

458
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Speaker 1: all time.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's yeah, there's no doubt a.

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Speaker 1: Mom even with the tired Grand Slams, which again to me,

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily the measure of greatness.

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Speaker 2: No, he is a winning record again against these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The only person he doesn't seem to have a

464
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Speaker 1: winning head to head record against, I think it's Andy Rade.

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Speaker 1: I think like Lincoln Hewitt and Nick Curious and Nick

466
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Speaker 1: fucking Curious who he's never taken a set against, which

467
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Speaker 1: is one of my favorite stats in professional temps.

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Speaker 3: Be nice to see Nick actually get his shit together

469
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Speaker 3: and be healthy, like and really healthy and actually work out.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was like, who's the player you would take if

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Speaker 1: you had to to play for your life against Novak Djokovic?

472
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Speaker 1: So if this player like absolutely had to win or

473
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Speaker 1: you'd die, might be would be curious? Well, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: he has the most him yet and I also think

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Speaker 1: his chaotic energy on the court really disrupts a Novak

476
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Speaker 1: type who is you know, really resilient. I think you

477
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Speaker 1: need just total chaos to do what the.

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Speaker 3: Crown pool for because people either hate Novak or love him,

479
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Speaker 3: and people either hate Nick or love him.

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Speaker 1: I know I would love to see it. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see that used, confused crowd. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: putting it into existence. US open matchup, Nick curious. I

483
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Speaker 1: don't care what round it happens. In third round, Nick

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Speaker 1: get fit, get serious, Nick get fit, Novak, don't def

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Speaker 1: yourself with throwing things around on the court, and let's

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Speaker 1: have it out. Let's see a crowd actually pull spartest

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Speaker 1: the manifestation of these two players, because I would love

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Speaker 1: to see them do it in grand SEMs, because Nick

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Speaker 1: has a two to zero record against Novak, but it's

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Speaker 1: never been at a Slam. It's it's best of three.

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Speaker 3: I also want to see a rematch of Isla Tomlanovich

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Speaker 3: and Osta Panco.

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Speaker 1: That would be really ostapka. Well, I think our commentary

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Speaker 1: about that got a lot of frankly positive feedback, just

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Speaker 1: because I think, you know, people like to understand the

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Speaker 1: the dramatics of what happens, and the truth is there

497
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Speaker 1: are a few players I would say, probably equally on

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Speaker 1: the women's and men's tour. I mean, if you look

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Speaker 1: at ben Wan Pere's existential performance are going on yesterday

500
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Speaker 1: in Hamburg, the you know, the saga continues.

501
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Speaker 2: So I don't want to put this all on the.

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Speaker 1: Women for being dramatic, because there's an idea takes the cake.

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Speaker 1: Ben was the most dramatic tennis player, full stop, of

504
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Speaker 1: old time, of all time probably, But you know, between

505
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Speaker 1: when you look at the court and you see Astapenko

506
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Speaker 1: or you see like Putin save A aka Poot's on

507
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Speaker 1: the court, like you know you're gonna get some shenanigans,

508
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Speaker 1: as Swan Stevens famously said about Julia Putin Saber. If

509
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Speaker 1: it's not one scam, it's another, you know, like it's

510
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Speaker 1: all like you know, like it's like it's always it's

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Speaker 1: going down.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I put those guys in the same

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Speaker 3: category there, So so yeah, I want to I.

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Speaker 2: Want that manifested.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Isla will, but probably she had a

516
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Speaker 3: great tournament as well, quarterfinals of Wimbledon. So yes, some

517
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Speaker 3: little storylines are really fun. I just feel like it

518
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Speaker 3: was a really fun tournament and the Women's doubles final.

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Speaker 2: Talk about drama, yeah, god, yeah.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 2: So they had match points on both sides. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Vesnina and Kuda Matoga were surviving in every match. They

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Speaker 2: went down seven match points prior to getting to.

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Speaker 3: The final World down four in the quarters and three

525
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Speaker 3: in the semis should never won that semi final match,

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Speaker 3: and and Elena actually told me after the match, yeah,

527
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Speaker 3: we definitely should not have won. But I sensed that

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Speaker 3: they were getting nervous because they've never been there and

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Speaker 3: that's what experience is all about. And then subsequently they

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Speaker 3: have two match points in the next match and lose,

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Speaker 3: and I kind of said that, I said, I think

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Speaker 3: they've run.

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Speaker 2: Out of lives. This is it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, luck can only take you so far.

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Speaker 5: But it was packed and it was so entertaining and

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Speaker 5: is up the net like just just running and making

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Speaker 5: these great reflexes and.

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Speaker 1: Listens just herself, just and what a cool no pulse

539
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Speaker 1: murtens Is called as ace man.

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Speaker 2: She is.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna like walk away with the Olympic gold medal.

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Speaker 1: You know that's gonna happen. Right, All these like all

543
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Speaker 1: these like high profile players are dropping out left and right.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like Elisa Mertenz, just kind of coat,

545
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Speaker 1: like just flying under the radar getting Belgium a gold

546
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Speaker 1: medal in the Olympics. Who is gonna win it on

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Speaker 1: the men's side, I have no idea because it seems

548
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Speaker 1: like almost no play.

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Speaker 2: If not Nick, Nick's not playing.

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Speaker 1: Nick's not playing. Novak's not playing.

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Speaker 2: No, Novak hasn't pulled out yet.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you say he's not playing.

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Speaker 2: He's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if he's playing, he's gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he plays.

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Speaker 1: The problem unless he gets like some three set, you know,

557
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Speaker 1: best of three, because if they played best for three

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Speaker 1: in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Would have won. The French would have been best of threat.

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Speaker 1: I know well enough. I'm gonna I have a whole

561
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Speaker 1: feel on that I'm gonna save you from. But essentially,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it could be exciting stuff going down

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Speaker 1: at the Olympics. It's gonna be fanless. The format's weird,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be cool.

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Speaker 3: I was talking watching it on NBC and listen to

566
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Speaker 3: me at two in the morning, please listen.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to our good friend Carolyn Mano, who

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Speaker 1: is covering the Olympics with you, and she was like, ah, man,

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Speaker 1: I hope people still tune in, Like I've seen a

570
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Speaker 1: lot of, you know, negative coverage about this Olympics, because

571
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Speaker 1: obviously we're gonna miss one of our most amazing athletes.

572
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Speaker 1: It's who legally smoked weed in a state where it

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Speaker 1: was legal and then tested positive for marijuana after smoking

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Speaker 1: everyone in a foot race. Like listen, guys, I smoke

575
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Speaker 1: weed once a year. I have a panic attack and

576
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Speaker 1: stay up all night journaling about aliens. That's not a joke.

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00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: That is literally what happens to me when I get stone,

578
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Speaker 1: which is why I do it so infrequently. If weed

579
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Speaker 1: as not a performance enhancer, If this lady is getting

580
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Speaker 1: baked on occasion because like God knows, she deserves to

581
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Speaker 1: like have whatever sluce she needs in her life, and

582
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Speaker 1: then she's still showing up in smoking people in a

583
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Speaker 1: figurative sense, then let her go to the fucking Olympics.

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Speaker 3: And I smoked wade and tried to run one hundred

585
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Speaker 3: mete is I'd like to take her round down like

586
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Speaker 3: a pinball Machine's like bam, bam bound, My bad, my bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get.

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Speaker 1: To the finish. She's taken them out left and right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you can do that while occasionally

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Speaker 1: indulging into weed, you deserve the Golden Bell Already.

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Speaker 2: Wed having weed as a performance enhancing drug in the

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Speaker 2: Olympics is such a fucking bullshit. Okay, And the reason

593
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Speaker 2: I did, oh it looks bad for the sport. Yeah okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but it's it's legal inst of the world,

595
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Speaker 2: so like get seriously, like enough is enough anyway.

596
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Speaker 1: Also, the best the whole thing of the Olympics is

597
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Speaker 1: watching the best athletes from every country compete against each other.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to sideline your best athletes for

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Speaker 1: something dumb that your own rules are dumb about, then

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Speaker 1: the joke's on you.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny would be if the winner of the

602
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Speaker 3: one hundred women's like ran over the line and then

603
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Speaker 3: stop and like put her fingers between your brass, smoking

604
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Speaker 3: to you, baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Hat's a guest. But I was talking

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Speaker 1: about with this with our friend Carolyn Mano, who's going

607
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Speaker 1: to be doing tennis with you, and she was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I hope people tune in. I know the Olympics has

609
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: gotten some you know, dings, probably fairly frankly because it

610
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: hasn't been handled well and the IOC is famously corrupt.

611
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Like there's you know, there's a lot of issues that said,

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Speaker 1: the idea that you get and I don't need to

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Speaker 1: tell you because you've done it to go wait the Olympics,

614
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: tackweed the idea that you get to go to the Olympics,

615
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Speaker 1: convening among the world's greatest athletes, put a flag on

616
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Speaker 1: your back and march. Just that alone is so cool.

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Speaker 2: It is, It is so hard. It meant to me

618
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: as much amazed anything I've ever done in my.

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Speaker 1: Current Like if you were to tell me I could

620
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: have a Grand Slam trophy or gold medal, I would

621
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Speaker 1: take the gold medal every time. And I don't even

622
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Speaker 1: know which country I would represent because I'm a dual citizen.

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Speaker 1: But the point is the Olympics are fucking cool. I

624
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says about them. I prefer the

625
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: winter to the summer.

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Speaker 2: That proves that you're a Canadian.

627
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Controversial opinion, maybe, but my point is the Olympics are cool.

628
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: And I hope people turned in because what would you

629
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: win more well in the in the Yeah? Maybe, But

630
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: also I feel like the Olympics. You know it's meaningful

631
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Speaker 1: to people like we get cool, weird results like Andy

632
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: Murray won two gold medals. The Williams sisters have tons

633
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Speaker 1: of gold medals. But somebody like Monica Puig showed up

634
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Speaker 1: and had an incredible tournament, played out of mind b

635
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: Kerber in the finals and it has a gold medal.

636
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Like stuff can happen in a cool way.

637
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Speaker 2: He's the guy in uh messou.

638
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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly one.

639
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 6: Doubles and teaming teams coach Roger and of course Roger

640
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 6: Dan gold medal and then like going nuts and Roger

641
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Speaker 6: on his body.

642
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember those moments.

643
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Speaker 1: That's the only gold medal Roger going to get is

644
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: a gold medal with Stanford Brick. And I'm sure he

645
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't treat it for many many things, right, No.

646
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Speaker 3: And I mean to see Novak walk off the courts,

647
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: believe in Rio, crying like it's so meaningful to play

648
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: for your country. It's the most nervous I've ever been

649
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: was playing for my country in Australia.

650
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Speaker 2: During the Sydney Olympics.

651
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: There's no My arms didn't stop shaking until I was

652
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: up a set six, one, five one on my opponents.

653
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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I think I can start to

654
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: breathe now. I mean that's how nervous I was. Yeah,

655
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: so yeah, it means a lot to tennis players. So

656
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Speaker 2: I hope that, you know, we still get the great matches.

657
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: And ironically, I think the Olympics provides unbelievable matches.

658
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: I agreed throughout, So hopefully we'll still get in that

659
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: and I'm sure.

660
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will listen for me, and again, I

661
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: like to watch tennis for the chaos. I like the unpredictability.

662
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I like the fact that somebody can come out of nowhere.

663
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: I like that.

664
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: Look, if you are call it, I don't know Algeria's

665
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: number one tennis player. Maybe your ranking is not high

666
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: enough so that you can qualify direct entry into any

667
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Grand Slam or frankly, probably most tournaments. So the idea

668
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: of somebody like me watching you play tennis is slim. However,

669
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: if Algieria descends to decides to do.

670
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: You have to have a certain ranking, you can't just

671
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: do it.

672
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: You can't just be like, you still have to qualify.

673
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't like show up as like the new country

674
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: that I invented.

675
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: It still got you still have to Yes, there has

676
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: to be.

677
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: You have to have a certain ranking to get in,

678
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: and then dependent on you know, how many people they

679
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: allow into the drawer from a certain country, depending on

680
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: how many are in a certain ranking base. So yeah,

681
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: you can't just turn up from some random country that

682
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: you're not ranked.

683
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: So sorry to spoil your oh.

684
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: Because my whole plan of getting obscenely rich and buying

685
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: my own island and calling it its own nation and

686
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: then getting to participate in the Olympics, I mean I

687
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: would lose in the first round to be clear, probably

688
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't get a point. But my point is I could

689
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: just go to the opening ceremonies and where, you know,

690
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: some kind of hip from Yeah, no, I want to.

691
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: I want to walk in the opening ceremonies. The opening

692
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: ceremonies are amazing, Yes, not amazing. My father played in one,

693
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: really which one the Atlanta Olympics. He was playing.

694
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Did your dad played?

695
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: You heard my dad do a trumpet solo in front

696
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: of the stadium as part of the Atlanta Symphony, which

697
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: is where he was performing at the time.

698
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: I was there for that games. That was a cool

699
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: was my first Olympic Games. It was the centennial.

700
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: Yes, of the was revival of it was Hot as

701
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: balls in Atlanta, Well Atlanta in late July, not good

702
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: swamp swamp and who ended up winning that year? Caprioti right?

703
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: No, ready Wood in Barcelona? Who Capriati one Barcelona?

704
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: And Lindsay won Lindsay and then Andrea Lindsay.

705
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: And Andrea I believe one.

706
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah that was but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had

707
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: my I was gonna say, what your situation?

708
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: I couldn't walk on the double squad. Yeah, rushed to

709
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: the hospital.

710
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Well, for anybody who wants to understand that reference, gotta

711
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: go back, go back and listen to the archive, because

712
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: your period can take you down when you least expect it.

713
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, dick kicks, Dick kicks.

714
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: I feel like the last thing we should talk about,

715
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: because I always get any time I talk about Novak

716
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Djokovic or don't talk about him, I get a lot

717
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: of hate from ahead people on the internet who are like, what,

718
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: no congratulations to Novak, Like I'm sitting here congratulating like

719
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: we're getting or Roger on their twentieth Grand Slams. I

720
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: just don't care about the Big Three, and I think

721
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: they're boring, and I want them to retire, not because

722
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I hate, but I just it's boring, Like I as

723
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: if it's not abundantly clear, I'm ready for like I get,

724
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: I got, I don't go to a restaurant order the

725
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: same dish like I'm you know, you gotta keep it

726
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: mixing on, come on, you gotta have to gitonic. Sure,

727
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: But my point is I they're too good. It's boring.

728
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: So for me, like, great job, Novak, you won another tournament.

729
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: Number one seed defends number one title, defends his you know,

730
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: championship from the year before, not unexpected. The fact that

731
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Chapo got two sets off of him in the you know,

732
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: the prior rounds, the fact that Bartine's set off of them.

733
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: One day he will for sure. And Chappo frankly played

734
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: better against Novak had Tao Bertini played against Novak, like

735
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: not only because he got two sets, but you could

736
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: see Chapo was kind of like what you were saying,

737
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: on the verge of figuring it out, like what it

738
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: takes to play at that stage.

739
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: He just he just emotionally needs more time.

740
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Well, he's got so many shots, and he's the type

741
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: of person I say this all the time when you

742
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: have a good all court game.

743
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he has weapons, he doesn't just not really

744
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: consider an all court player, but he can do everything.

745
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: When you have that type of a player, it takes

746
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: longer to develop your game emotionally and mentally. And so

747
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: for me, with so many options, it's so obvious that

748
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: he just needs one or two more years. I mean, look,

749
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: how great he was a couple of years ago, but

750
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: but he just couldn't pull dinner a little bit more.

751
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: This time he's getting even closer, and I just think

752
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: it's a matter of maybe, I'll say three years. He

753
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: could win Wimbledon for sure in the next three years.

754
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got all the tools.

755
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see him play Berrettini in the final.

756
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: That'd be great. Yeah, a great And then mag it's Steph.

757
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: Let's see if he can.

758
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Steph. Well he was horrendous in the first round.

759
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, I feel like that's such an emotional

760
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: lightdown from the French child, and especially because they were

761
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: closer than ever from you know, this year, because the

762
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: French was deleted a little bit. The idea of going

763
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: out and losing a heartbreaking Facet final on the front

764
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: shop and then turning around and having a grass sports season.

765
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: It's probably just like I can imagine why, especially.

766
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: As obviously, to his credit, is such a great exciting

767
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: player on grass so and he loves the big spotlight.

768
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: As he said, if this had been on a different court,

769
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have won.

770
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I love that.

771
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: I love that he you know, said that he was

772
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: walking around the hotel that night and like that he

773
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 2: was just the man and he loved it. And I

774
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: love because I love him.

775
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: I just think he's such a great personality for tennis.

776
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: But but on Novak, kudos because the guy just knows

777
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: how to win the big points. And you know, I

778
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: think the reason he doesn't get a lot of love

779
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: as well is because you know, he doesn't look as

780
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: pretty as as Roger in terms of the games, in

781
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: terms of the game style, some.

782
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: People might say his looks. They might look at Roger

783
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 2: and be like, look at him.

784
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: It's like put on a GQ suit and off he goes,

785
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: you know, and he carries himself a little bit differently.

786
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this subjectively, Novak is more

787
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: handsome than.

788
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Roger, but for a lot of people will disagree.

789
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I know, I think a lot of people will agree,

790
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: so there you go.

791
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: But Rafa it kind of comes out with that attitude

792
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: and that like the bull.

793
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think it's hard to appreciate what

794
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: Novak does incredibly well, especially if you're not a very

795
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: very close watcher of tennis, which is he turns defense

796
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: into offense in the in a lightening flash. But because

797
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: a lot of times he's playing defense, which to be clear,

798
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: is incredibly hard to do.

799
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: But even his winner's Caitlin like, even he's was like,

800
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Rafa is so obvious when he rips that forehand and

801
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: it's like ayah, you know, with the grunt and the

802
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: whole thing. And then Roger's just so seamless the way

803
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: he does it, and then Rafa's in the Novak's kind

804
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: of in the middle, kind of doesn't look like he's

805
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: really trying that hard, kind of doesn't look like he's

806
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: putting that much effort into it, and then all of a sudden,

807
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: the ball's like it's a winner, do you know what

808
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean? It's kind of like or he doesn't miss,

809
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: and he puts.

810
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: You into such precarious situations and his ability to get

811
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: the ball back. I mean, dude, that one point that

812
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: he played against Barretina when Bartine had an opportunity to

813
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: break back, and I believe the fourth set, and he

814
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: slid and got this one backhand back in the court

815
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: and then he ran up for that drop shot and

816
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: he get that angle. It's like he just he's kind

817
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: of like an assassin where he just slowly puts the

818
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: knife in really slowly, and then just kind of slowly

819
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: starts pushing it in, and then right at the end

820
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: he just slices your neck and if it's over, it's over,

821
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: and you go, how did that happen?

822
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: Well? I think what's so interesting about this time period

823
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: is everybody expects and I think now we will certainly

824
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: see him surpassing.

825
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: Oh, Stephan's gonna get twenty five.

826
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: He'll surpriss Stefane Graff at twenty two. He'll probably surpass

827
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: uh Serena at twenty three. I don't mention that other

828
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: person's record because it's bogus. I think he's gonna end

829
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: up with twenty five, so it seems clear, you know,

830
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: by grand Slam count he'll have the total for sure.

831
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: But I also think it's a really interesting moment because

832
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: now at this point.

833
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: He's people think he's gonna have more than that.

834
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: It's possible, certainly, but I think the real question is

835
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: so Rafa and Roger cannot threaten him anymore. It's just

836
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: their heads to heads, especially in the last decade, have

837
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: been pretty dismal. The last stand really was Rafa on

838
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: clay at Roland Garden. That went down, and it went down,

839
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: so that they're done. They're not challenging what really needs

840
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: to happen. And you just said something really interesting that

841
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: I want to make the point of, which is why

842
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: Novak is so good. Is the young guys Titzipas, Chapeau, Mateo, whoever,

843
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: have to win the point so many times against Novak

844
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: because he's such an incredible defender, and then he can

845
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: turn that offense on in a second and you don't

846
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: even realize how good what he's doing is because it's

847
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: not very showy. They have to grow up to be

848
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: able to challenge him. They have to understand that in

849
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: that match, at that level, you have to win the

850
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: point four, five, six times. And I think they will

851
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: get there. But the gap between when they can get

852
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: there you said Chapo is going to be winning it

853
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: in two three years maybe Mateo give him another two years.

854
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Team almost their team, team's gonta fan. He's freaking' ask.

855
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: Teams teams in the bit in the wilderness at the moment.

856
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: But you know, he has won a Grand Slam and

857
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: he has challenged the greats in its own finals. Tizzy

858
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: Pass like, I think these guys will get there so

859
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: that they can solve Novak. But I think the gap

860
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: between when they get there and now is going to

861
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: mean that Novak's going to run the table and basically

862
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: get every slam until they do.

863
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: It's sort of like the way Novak was on the

864
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: precipice often against Rough and Roger early in his career,

865
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: like it was a matter of time, and then just

866
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: time came. It's just like then he just got better

867
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: at everything. He got better at his forehand got better,

868
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: his serve got better.

869
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: And so he fitness got better.

870
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: Meant he wasn't dying in like the heat because he

871
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: figured out whatever it was that he needed to figure out.

872
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: And so so yeah, it's just a matter of time.

873
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: I just think that he is just such a professional

874
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: and he just doesn't miss under pressure. He just doesn't miss,

875
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: and he knows that these guys have to come up

876
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: with something special over three total sets to.

877
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: Beat him in a Grand Slam, and it kind of

878
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: reminds you he's just in that mode of like I'm

879
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: not losing to you and I'm not losing at all anymore.

880
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: Well, it sort of reminds me of that period kind

881
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: of after Apriotti, hennin Clisters, Lena retired, and kind of

882
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: before the next gen of women really stood up and

883
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: claim started claiming stuff, where Serena just ran the table

884
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: and you got the sense that they were defeated before

885
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: they went in the court because they knew just like Novak,

886
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: even though their games are not very similar, Serena was

887
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: never out of it. You could maybe take a set

888
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: because sometimes she's a slow starter, but the end of

889
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: the day, she's gonna solve you. And you have you

890
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: have to have the greatest day of your life on

891
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: the tennis court, which is kind of how it feels

892
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: like people going up against Novak.

893
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to.

894
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Think about it. They have to have their greatest day

895
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: and then they still have to hope that Novak has

896
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: a not great.

897
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: Day when he lost, when he beat Rafa at the

898
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: French I said he's gonna win the Grand Slain.

899
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like after he won that match, I.

900
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: Said, that's it. He's gonna win the Grand Slain. And

901
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: so he's three quarters of the way the If he

902
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: applies the Olympics, you know, we'll see what happens.

903
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to see him play it, just

904
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: because I think the storyline going into the US with

905
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: a gold medal to match Steffi graffs in ID.

906
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Eight stephie gra that's the only record in ten of

907
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: that I that I hope never goes away because I

908
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: love to and I've.

909
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: Got a possibility of going away this year.

910
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I that's why I feel very

911
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: ambvalent about it. Now.

912
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: More importantly, we're going into the summer here. We're gonna

913
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: have full stadium. And trust me, when I was at Wimbledon,

914
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: we had full stadium the last couple of days of.

915
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: Wonder and it was so great to have the crowds back.

916
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a full stadium at the US Open.

917
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna have full crowds. I cannot wait.

918
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: I mean, after last year's cabinets and nightmare at the

919
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: US Open with no fans and us sitting out in

920
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: the ESPN desk talking to ourselves with like pigeons and

921
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: like whatever the hell bird would fly behind us and

922
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: there's nobody there.

923
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: It was so hard.

924
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: It was so hard to be there for it. I'm

925
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 3: just I'm pumped. I'm pumped for the fans to be back.

926
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: I can't wait for the summer of Tennessee in the

927
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 3: US and the US Open is going to be raging.

928
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: It's going to be so awesome.

929
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, I can't wait.

930
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: And I think we'll see what happens with Naomi Orsaka

931
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: coming back through the summer. She certainly goes into the

932
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: US Open with a lot of eyes going to be

933
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: on her through the summer.

934
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: On the court, we'll see who can come out on

935
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: top of the women's game this year at the end

936
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: of the year.

937
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: At number one, with Naomi and Ash sort of vying

938
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: for that position.

939
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what about Creature go over, Like we

940
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: haven't even talked about her, Like after the French you know,

941
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: how's her rest of the year going to go? Sable Anka,

942
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: that's so interesting.

943
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: Sablenka is a huge, huge, huge threat, and a lot

944
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: of people say right now she is my favorite. Possibly

945
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: to let me say that again. I think she's going

946
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: to win the US Open this year.

947
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: I think that you do. I think she will break

948
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: through at the US Open. It's perfect for her. It's crazy,

949
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: the crowd are going to be the love. She now

950
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: knows what it's like to make a semi of a grand.

951
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: Slap, which is an enormous mental hurdle for her. That

952
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: she got through at the US at the at Wimbledon,

953
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: and she knows how good she can be on hardcourt,

954
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: and so she is my favorite.

955
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Actually one hundred percent.

956
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that because I think for a

957
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: lot of people myself included watching her three cents battle

958
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: with Naomi Osaka in twenty eighteen the best match. It

959
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: was best match of the tournament. And I think I

960
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: got the sense truly, and I'm not like a predictor type,

961
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: but I got the sense truly like whoever wins this

962
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: match is going to win this tournament. It was so

963
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: seismic watching those two players play together, and you know,

964
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it went three Sabilika had some chances in the third set,

965
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: was I think up serving her certain kind of let

966
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: her down, like those that she.

967
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: Wasn't emotionally ready or you would say the same thing

968
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: about Naomi, but Naomi stays so calm.

969
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, was Nami can be as cold as we certainly

970
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: saw later on in that final with all the stuff

971
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: going on with Serena, Like, Naomi can go to a

972
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: very serene place, and I don't know that Sabilaca has

973
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: that gear.

974
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: But it's finally, considering what's happened over the last couple

975
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: of months with Naomi off the court, sure she's that's

976
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: the reason she can go on the court and shut

977
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: it down. I mean, Stephanie was the same, Monica sell

978
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: Us the same. They really could shut anything off on

979
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: the tennis court and go and play. But off the court,

980
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: the social anxiety and the press conferences, I get it,

981
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: you know, answering and asking getting asked questions.

982
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: They just were the three of them were so shy socially.

983
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: Just why you don't see Stephane and Monica like out

984
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: and about like doing stuff in the media because they're not.

985
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: They don't like it.

986
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: You know, Nami has been able to control her narrative,

987
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: whether it be you know, with your magazine obviously with

988
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: Racket Magazine and being the guest editor that's been.

989
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: In the works for how long? How long has that

990
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: been in the worst a year, So, I mean, that's

991
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: a year that's not like, hey, you want to do

992
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: this now that you've told the world you don't want

993
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: to have anything to do with press, So you know,

994
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: that was a year in development.

995
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 3: And then obviously Netflix thing again, and I was like, oh, yeah,

996
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: she's controlling the narrative of that.

997
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: The cameras around her are often the ones that she

998
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: is holding.

999
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: Well. I have a whole lot of thoughts on this, obviously,

1000
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to tell everybody more about the Naomi

1001
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: guest editor issue because I think it's probably a little

1002
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: different than why people are thinking. But let's see that.

1003
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: Let's save that because I think it is coming out

1004
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: obviously in three weeks.

1005
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Actually, you mean you tell what do you? I think

1006
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: you know you're the freaking editor.

1007
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: Well, we're sending it to the printer, and there's always

1008
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: a couple of days when we don't know exactly what

1009
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: date we're going to be on presiced.

1010
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: In other words, we're going to do that.

1011
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: We're going to well do a whole.

1012
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: We're going to do a whole episode on this in

1013
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: a couple weeks.

1014
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: But my hope is we can get some of the

1015
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: amazing guests, two are in the magazine to be involved

1016
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: in that conversation because there's some really really cool, creative

1017
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: people who we were able to get because they had

1018
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: loved it, admiring Naomi, and they wanted to be involved

1019
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: in her world. So that's sort of a teaser preview.

1020
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: But I feel like we've done a good job of

1021
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: not only sort of wrapping up what was most exciting

1022
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: about Wimbledon, but also looking ahead, looking ahead because the

1023
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Olympics and the US Open are on the horizon, the

1024
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Golden Slam maybe is up for grabs Stepigraphs nineteen eighty

1025
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: eight record. Who knows if Novak can go after it,

1026
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: but obviously he's the only person in position to do it.

1027
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: I think he's I think it's going to be the

1028
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: hottest one for him to win, actually because it is

1029
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: out of three sets and someone can catch five for

1030
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: two sets, so we'll see. But he look, he hasn't

1031
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 3: said he's gone yet, so all the time this pod

1032
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: comes out.

1033
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: He could be out of him.

1034
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: But anyway, everybody, thanks for like hanging in with us

1035
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: during the racket sort of up and downs during the

1036
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: slams may being busy coaching in ESPN. Kitelin's running a friggin'

1037
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: magazine and we try and get to get and do

1038
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: these things when we can.

1039
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Well, person, we're in my apartment and we're doing it here.

1040
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: So Kaitland, thanks for thanks for a little wrap up

1041
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: with count Wait Count wait for the Hodcourt season.

1042
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: Now it's all it's on there, We're almost there. Yep,

1043
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: all right, my friend. Until soon. Bye, And that's it

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Speaker 1: for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks for listening.

1045
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co host and producer

1046
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong.

1047
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: Thanks to Tim or Jerry and then the team at ACAST.

1048
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Speaker 1: Find us at racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe

1049
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