1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague 3 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: West hod Kuitz. We're coming to you here from our 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field West. We are another day closer 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: to must see TV for certain Sunday night football Packers Patriots, Rodgers, 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Brady all that good stuff, and we will get to 7 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: that epic quarterback matchup. But as promised, we need to 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: recap the Packers trades from the trading deadline. Now that 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: we've heard from general manager Brian Gudacuin's head coach Mike McCarthy, 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: you got some reaction from players in the locker room. 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Ha ha. Clinton Dix sent to Washington for a fourth 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: round draft picked, Time Montgomery sent to Baltimore for a 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick. In the draft, Brian gudunts made 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: it pretty clear. He made a couple of things pretty clear, 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I thought in his press conference on Wednesday morning. One 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: is that this is not some sort of a fire 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: sale and the Packers are giving up on the season. 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: That is not the case at all. And number two, 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: these moves were made primarily for performance reasons. Two players 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: that in the personnel department's eyes, we're having disappointing seasons. 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: And there are other factors as well, in the locker 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: room chemistry, all that kind of stuff certainly factors in. 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is these are players that the 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: Packers wanted to move on from and give other players 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: a chance. At this point, Mike, I'm gonna hijack the 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: show a little bit. Okay, you've been doing this for 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: twelve years with the Green Bay Packers. Have you ever 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: been of a part of a week like this? No? 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean just in terms of the well, I'm not 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: just talking about the Rams game, but the West Coast 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles trip, two trades in the deadline, now you're 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: preparing for Brady Rogers. It's a per view, you know, 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's absolutely unlike anything any single week I 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: think that I've ever been a part of. I mean 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: me this morning, getting up, going to quick trip, getting 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: my crew but coffee, my Packers cup eighty nine cent refills, 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: and just trying to get energized about what exactly is 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: going on. Because be honest with you, Mike, I'm going 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: on about three hours four hours of sleep every night 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: right now, because there's just always something happening. It seems 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: like still trying to catch up from that West Coast swing. 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: But to your original question, ha ha, Clinton Dick's time Montgomery, 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the Packers making a move there. I was sitting out 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: at practice on Wednesday. I was surveying the field. The 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Packers did make one move. Trey Carson was promoted. They 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: still have one spot available on their fifty three, and 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: I was sitting there trying to think of the last 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: time they'd made a move like this in season, and 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of one. Mike, I think I've been 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: You've been around the Sun a little bit longer than 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I have, But I mean they've traded for players. You 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: had Derek Martin come in at one point, you had 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Grant come in. But I think the last time 54 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: I would say there was something like this in the 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: middle of a season. I remember it was my first 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: year in this job two thousand and six, also Mike 57 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy's first year's head coach. But a mod Carol, who 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: was a first round pick from a couple of years prior, 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: was a starting cornerback on this team, and after a 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: dreadful performance on Monday Night Football in Philadelphia against the 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Eagles and a very ugly loss for Mike McCarthy's Packers. 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: A mod Carroll was cut the next morning. I kind 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: of forget that a mod Carroll made it to the 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy era. Yeah, he was. He was here for about 65 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: six games, and Ted Thompson let him go. He was 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: a starter, and the next day he was gone. That's 67 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: probably about the only thing that I could equate to this, 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: and and the situations are not really similar, too similar, 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I guess I should say in that respect, but that's 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: about all I can think of. Well, and then getting 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: back to your original point, I don't mean to take 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: us completely off the rails here, but I thought one 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: thing that Brian Goodkin said during when he addressed the 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: media on on Wednesday that was very interesting, very poignant 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: to me, is that a lot of people you and 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I saw it an inbox, asking well, why don't you 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: just wait until the end of the season. You'll get 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: a compensatory pick for Clinton Dicks and Goodain said they 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: got a fourth round pick for him. If you wait 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: that out one, you're gonna just have to see where 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: he falls on that continuum. If he signs a free 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: agent contract contract elsewhere. The best you're gonna get as 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: an end of the third round under the third round pick. Now, 84 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: there's no questions about that. And the most powerful thing 85 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I thought Brian Goodkin said was we also want to 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: be active in free agency. I just thought that was 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: such an about face. And I'm not saying, well, how 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: Ted Thompson did things was wrong. He obviously did things 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: very right to put this franchise in the situation that 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: it's in right now, and and to to win a 91 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: super Bowl and to be a perennial playoff contender. But 92 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting here and Goodakin's talk about, Yeah, you know what, 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: the compensed story thing isn't gonna drive us here. We 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: want to be active. You move with with Clinton Dix 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: right now, you get that guaranteed fourth round pick, as 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: you point out, that's in the round, not at the 97 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: end of the round. I think that's gonna be something 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: the Packers once the season is over. Gives them a 99 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of flexibility for those ten picks as it stands 100 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: right now. I did go around. I was talking to 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: some guys in the locker room. The defensive backs. They're healthy, 102 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: they're deep, they feel like they can absorb this loss. 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: How Clinton Dix leaves a void. There's no question about that. 104 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: He's a Pro Bowl safety. He's done some good things 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: in this league. But the Packers feel like with the 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: depth they have and the young players that they have 107 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: in that secondary, there is enough talent there to be 108 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: able to press forward without him. Yeah, and I don't 109 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to make too much of this, but 110 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, what I saw on the field, 111 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: the play of haw Clinton Dix this season, the play 112 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: of Time Montgomery just very emblematic, very representative of what 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: this Packers team has gone through as a whole. Good 114 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: moments and bad moments, lots of ups and downs. We've 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: seen how Clinton Dix make a couple of turnover plays 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: that were very impactful and and very impressive. We've also 117 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: seen him look a little bit lost in the red zone, 118 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: coverage in the end zone and allowing easy touchdown passes 119 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: that shouldn't have been quite so easy. We saw Time 120 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: Montgomery start the final drive against the San Francisco forty 121 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Niners with a great fourteen fifteen yard run to get 122 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: the engine cranking, get the Packers going, but then he 123 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: fumbles the kickoff in a crucial moment against the Los 124 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams just emblematic of what's been going on with 125 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: the with with this entire team, and uh and you 126 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: said it West, the Packers feel like, Okay, it's it's 127 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: time to move on. Mike McCarthy wasn't going to reveal 128 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: to the Patriots and Bill Belichick exactly how the Packers 129 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: are going to line up in the secondary, Who's going 130 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: to be the kick returner, you know, all of that 131 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It kind of sounds to me like 132 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of options are on the table in terms 133 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: of how Mike Petton is going to play this. In 134 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the defensive backfield, You've got Jermaine Whitehead, although he's on 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: the injury report right now. You have maybe some cornerback 136 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: is the deepest position on the team. Maybe somebody shifts 137 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: around there are the six defensive backpackage is gonna look 138 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: a little different because a lot of times Mike Petton 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: has been using three corners three safeties for those six dbs. 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Does he now go more to four corners to safeties 141 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: or something like that. So it just seems to me 142 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: like all the options are on the table and we're 143 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: really not going to know until Sunday night, because Mike 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: McCarthy has no interest in giving Bill Belichick a heads 145 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: up as to how he's got to play. Yeah, the 146 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: big thing a lot of the guys in the locker 147 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: room talked about, obviously Mike McCarthy talked about, was that 148 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: they want to give guys opportunities. They feel like there's 149 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys that have not been getting 150 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: playing time right now that that could potentially contribute to 151 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: this defense. You think of guys like Josh Jones, the 152 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: second round pick from last year. Think about guys like 153 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson who played really well when when they were down, 154 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: Guys in that cornerback room, but now they're healthy again. 155 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Bashad Breland signed him last month. He had the hamstring, 156 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: he's ready to return. He said he could have played 157 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: in that game against the Rams on Sunday he was 158 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: just a healthy scratch. So this is one of these 159 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: deals where I think, as Mike McCarthy said, and I'm 160 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: sure we'll hear Mike Petton talk about it later this week, 161 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: they are so matchup based and we've seen them Taylor 162 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: specific game plans to specific opponents. So I think there's 163 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fluidity, a lot of flexibility 164 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: with how they use those guys. But the point I 165 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: made an inbox on Thursdays, whatever reform this defense takes 166 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday is going to speak to right now as 167 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: it stands, the scheme, the five the six defensive backs 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: that they feel most comfortable with against one of the 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: NFL's elite. I think that's going to be a very 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: important statement to make. But yeah, there's gonna be a 171 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of domino effects with that defense and with that 172 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: secondary as to how you go about replacing a guy 173 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: that basically had not missed any games, basically had not 174 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: missed any snaps over the last four and a half years. Yeah, 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: what do you think? What's your sense of maybe what 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: direction the Packers will go at kick returner? There are 177 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: obviously a few options there. We've seen the rookie Marquez 178 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Valdes Scantling step in at kickoff returner here and there. 179 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: He did it in the preseason. He's done it. I 180 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: believe he had one kickoff return so far in the 181 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: regular season. Maybe he's the guy or do you see 182 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: another potential option on to me right now? It's veld 183 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: As Scantling until Trevor Davis is available, or if they 184 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: want to active, they have to make because I just 185 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to put Randall Cob back there. Um, 186 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: you have the two running backs, but I think you're 187 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: gonna need you know, Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams will 188 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: probably talk about them here in a second. I think 189 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Valdes Scantling makes the most sense. I I don't recall 190 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: you correct me from hanger. I don't recall Equanimias st 191 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Brown doing any kickoff returns in games in the preseason. 192 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Jamon Moore might have, but to meet Valdes Scantling in 193 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: Montgomery for the first two weeks were platooning that position. 194 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: Then they finally just decided to run with Montgomery. So 195 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking for a guy that's done it, 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: it's it's Valdi Scantling. Yeah. All right, Um, quickly here 197 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: West before I forget, because I have a tendency to 198 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: forget these things. 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It's a treat not only for Packers fans, 208 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: for Patriots fans, but for all NFL fans. It's Aaron 209 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Tom Brady sharing the same field for only 210 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: the second time in their careers four years ago. A 211 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: great game out here at Lambou Field, Like we talked 212 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: about the other day, Um, I think this is gonna 213 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: be uh, this is gonna be a special one. And 214 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: whatever happens, I think we're gonna remember it for a 215 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: long time. You know what I love the most about 216 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: this matchup too? You're right, it is Brady and it 217 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: is Rogers and it and it only happens so often, 218 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: but their offenses are so similar. You know, when you 219 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: look at Okay, it's Aaron Jones, and it's Jamal Williams, 220 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: it's Sony Michelle, It is obviously James James White, Rob Gronkowski, 221 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, Julian Edelman, Randall Cobb. They mirror each other 222 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. One of the things, you know, 223 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: Brill Belichick has been so complimentary of Mike McCarthy in 224 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: the past, I think because there's a lot of similar 225 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: similarity between the way that they build their team, they 226 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: build their culture, in the way they play on the 227 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: utball field. Um and I it does go back though, 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: to the two quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers, I thought, as he 229 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: always does, really something's up perfectly on his went and 230 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: during his Wednesday news conference, when you know, I appreciate 231 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: the history of this matchup and what it means to 232 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: the league to have these two guys playing each other again. 233 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: But the goat debate is one of the most annoying 234 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: things I think that has ever been introduced in this 235 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: new era of trying to determine, you know, the hype 236 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: of the hype of it in terms of that angle 237 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: has gone a bit overboard. Yeah, Rogers, Rogers pretty much 238 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: you know, through the through the water on the fire 239 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, And he said, I mean you can't 240 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: really do you really can't prove anything. I mean, it's 241 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: just banter and debate that is meant for you know, 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: bars and barbershops. But he did say that Tom Brady 243 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: has five Super Bowls. In most cases, that kind of 244 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: ends the debate, you know, in terms of you know, 245 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: trying to determine. I mean, that's what the goal is 246 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: for every player. So um. But you know, it's gonna 247 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: be fun to see those two come back into the 248 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: same orbit. And you know Brady talked about on his 249 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: conference call as well. You know, he's had a relationship 250 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: with now with Rogers, a good solid, you know friendship 251 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: here for the last five six years. I think Rogers 252 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: went over to his house at one point to meet 253 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: with his nutritionist when he was making some of these 254 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: decisions with his own body and his own wellness as 255 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: he tried to extend his career. Brady's kind of set 256 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: the standard in that regard. In Rogers, arguably the most 257 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: gifted and intelligent quarterback to ever play the game, has 258 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: tried to take some cues from that as well. So 259 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: you can always learn from each other, and these two 260 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: guys certainly are paying attention to what the other is doing. Yeah, well, 261 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed On Wednesday morning, Mike McCarthy Uh, turned 262 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: back the clock a little bit reminisced. Was asked about 263 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: this Rogers Brady thing, and he brought up when he 264 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: was an assistant coach with the Chiefs first breaking in 265 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: the league, and I remember this game. McCarthy brought it up. 266 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: It was a Monday night football game in Joe Montana 267 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs John Elway for the Denver Goes. I 268 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: was actually a grad school student at Northwestern. I was 269 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: in my cramped little studio apartment on the Northwestern campus 270 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: in Evanston, Illinois. I should have been studying on a 271 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: Monday night, but I was absolutely glued to that football game. 272 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: It was. It was an incredible game. And then the 273 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter it was just both quarterbacks taken the teams 274 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: up and down the field, back and forth, and at 275 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: mile high on the road, Joe Montana for the Chiefs 276 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: throws a touchdown pass with eight seconds left two Uh 277 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: win that game, and you felt like if they put 278 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: another fifteen minutes on the clock, the two quarterbacks just 279 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: would have kept going back and forth. It was. It 280 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: was two Hall of famers, two of the best of 281 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: all time. And uh, you know, I'd love to see 282 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: another game like that on Sunday night and be a 283 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: real treat. Yeah, and it's Gillette Stadium in that environment. 284 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the one of my favorite 285 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: stadiums in the NFL. Um maybe not for the press box, 286 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: but in terms of just the overall atmosphere. And yeah, 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: we have kind of an end zone view from Gillette Stadium, 288 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: so when the players are way down on the other 289 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: side of the field. Yeah, you've got your binoculars. I 290 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: usually just watch the television screen. So yeah, but but 291 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: it is, it's going to be a show. And this 292 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: is what you want, right November sweeps. I mean, now 293 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: you've got Rogers versus versus Brady got Michael Jordan's talking 294 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: about the matchup. But the biggest thing to me, and 295 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: someone brought this up an inbox, and it was a 296 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: good point. I thought, in a game like this that 297 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: could very well be a shootout, that could very well 298 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: be you know, you can do one thing, I'm gonna 299 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: try to do it better. It might very well come 300 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: down to the last possession. And I think from the 301 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Packers perspective, they have been well conditioned for these matches, 302 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: for these meetings. If there's one thing the Packers have 303 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: done exemplarily well this year it's been with their two 304 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: men in offense. They know how to move the ball 305 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: when they need to move the ball, and it would 306 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: be interesting to see in Gillette Stadium if that ends 307 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: up being the case. Once again. I'm sure for the 308 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Packers perspective, they'd like a little less drama this week. 309 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: It would be a lot easier just to you know, 310 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: go in there, get up early, and hold onto that 311 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: lead and then walk out of there with a much 312 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: needed victory. But with this type of opponent, with these 313 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of stakes, and obviously doing it on the road 314 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: in a very passionate home road environment, home environment for 315 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: the for the Patriots, it's not going to be easy. 316 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: But the Packers know that. Yeah. Well, a couple of 317 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: lessons here to point out. One a lesson from last 318 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: week that we talked about. In a game like this 319 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: on the road against an elite level team, you're gonna 320 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: have to make the plays at crunch time. That's what 321 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: we talked about. You're not going to beat the New 322 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: England Patriots in forty five minutes or fifty minutes or 323 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: fifty five minutes. You're going to have to beat them 324 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: for the whole sixty minutes. If they have any chance 325 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: in the last three or four minutes of the game, 326 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure you put it away. The 327 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: other thing is, I will say, if you go back 328 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to the game here in the Rogers Brady Packers Patriots game, 329 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: a big lesson here for the Packers in that two 330 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: rookies played a huge, huge role in that game. Richard 331 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Rogers caught a big touchdown pass was a rookie tight end. 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: And then Davante Adams six catches for twenty one yards 333 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: in that game, kind of his coming out party as 334 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: an NFL player, and Rogers talk about that. From the 335 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: beginning of the game, Belichick's defense was focused on Jordy 336 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Nelson and Randall cop Rogers got Davonte going, they hit 337 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: the touchdown to Richard Rogers. Then Belichick's defensive just then 338 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: they hit the touchdown to Jordy Nelson before halftime, Belichick's 339 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: defensive just back again. It's that sort of cat and 340 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: mouse game and and uh and that sort of chess 341 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: match that's going to be going on throughout. But my 342 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: point is that when you look at the roles that 343 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: a couple of rookies had in that big victory for 344 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: the Packers. It's just a lesson that absolutely everybody's got 345 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: to be ready. If you step on the field, it 346 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: might be your moment to shine. And whether that's Feldas Scantling, 347 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: whether that's e q st Brown, whether that's Marcedes Lewis 348 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: or Lance Kendricks, a couple of guys that Rogers brought 349 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: up because you never know who it's going to be 350 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: on a given night, what it's going to take to 351 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: beat a Belichick defense and beat the adjustments that he's 352 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: going to continue to make. So obviously Davantae Adams and 353 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb and Jimmy Graham they have to make their 354 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: plays as well. But but this game could come down to, 355 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: you know, one of those unsung hero type guys playing 356 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: a big role. Absolutely, I think that will be the 357 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: difference in this game. It's funny you go back and 358 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: think about that Adams game and I was a part 359 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: of the media scrum with him discussing it. That was 360 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: the seventh career start that day. You remember that year. Actually, 361 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Jared Boykin started the season as the number three. Adams 362 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: after the first month going intto October finally took over 363 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: that spot. The three games. Going into that, he had 364 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: four catches for thirty three yards, one of those for 365 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown, but had been relatively quiet during a really 366 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: powerful stretch of offensive football, as Jordy Nelson was really 367 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, humming at that point. So you understand why 368 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Belichick and company sort of, you know, put him on 369 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: the back burner in that game that proved to be 370 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: the wrong approach. Th Davante Adams showed uh and he 371 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: said it even this week. This was what he felt 372 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: was like a really big confidence game for him, a 373 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: really big boost to show him that he belonged, because 374 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: he had some solid performances up to that point, but 375 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: none of them where he really took over the game. 376 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: And it was funny to listen to talk about it 377 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: because he said, now it's kind of like it's come 378 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: old circle for a little bit for me. Now I'm 379 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: the number one target. He's probably the one that's gonna 380 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: be getting gilmore. He's probably the one that they're gonna 381 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: be tailoring everything too. He's really he likes that challenge 382 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: because he wants to see, now, okay, I put up 383 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: six catches for yards when nobody was looking at me. 384 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Now everybody's looking at me and I want to have 385 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: that similar production. But just like that, as more attention 386 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: gets driven to him, that's where you want to see 387 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: a guy like Marcus Valdes Scantling or drawn Will Allison, 388 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: whoever stepping into the number three role really you know, 389 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: show that they can shine, because when one guy is 390 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: getting shadowed or coverage over the top, it's gonna open 391 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: up an opportunity for another player. And we saw last 392 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: week Mike with Valve this Scantling what he can do. 393 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: It's man demn coverage and no safety over the top. 394 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Man demand single high mvs. He's got some pretty good 395 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: moves at the line, and and if he gets a 396 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: step on you, he's got the speed, he's he's tough 397 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: to catch. Absolutely and the other the other element to 398 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: this too, will probably end up discussing this is our 399 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Keys to Victory on Friday Show. But I think this 400 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: is a really big opportunity for Aaron Jones and Jamal 401 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Williams too. Uh, they're the one to punch. I asked 402 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones about that in the locker room on Wednesday. 403 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: He was always the young guy, he was always a 404 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: little brother. Ti Montgomery was the one leading that room. 405 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Ripkowski was the guy on top of that room. 406 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: Well now it's Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams, and he 407 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: thinks that that's something that's going to continue to bring 408 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: them closer and really make them and push them to 409 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: make the most of whatever extra opportunities they're getting going forward. 410 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: Those two guys can be difference makers in this league. 411 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: And I think a game like this, much like as 412 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: I talked about yesterday Eddie Lacey in two thousand fourteen, 413 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: you get that run game going, you start getting the 414 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: Patriots having to creep into the box, Aaron Rodgers can 415 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: go to work. What I like about the state of 416 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: the Packers right now heading into this game, as we 417 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: talk about the possibility of kind of the unsung hero, 418 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, Adam's Cob and Graham. Those guys have proven 419 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: veteran guys. They're going to have to do their thing. 420 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: But we've but we've seen mvs e Q Aaron Jones, 421 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, Geronimo Allison at different times in their very 422 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: young careers. They have answered the call. And one of 423 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: these guys, a couple of these guys, be three or 424 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: four of these guys are going to have calls they 425 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: need to answer on Sunday night in order for the 426 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: Packers to get what would be a tremendously big victory 427 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: in a really small storyline to this, uh St Brown, 428 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: he just looks the part to me, he really does, 429 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: and not just from what he does on the field, 430 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: but his temperament. I mean, you throw him in there, 431 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: you wouldn't know that that was a six round rookie. 432 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: He knows how to handle those situations. He played at 433 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame and he's now going out there and even 434 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: if it is only twelve snaps like it was against 435 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: the Rams last week, runs good routes and he gets open. Yeah, 436 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: that's a lot. That's a lot to get from a 437 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: guy that you know was a late third day draft pick. Well, 438 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: as you said, we've got keys to victory to talk 439 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: about on our weekly wrap up show on Friday, and 440 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: we will leave that for tomorrow, but for now, we'll 441 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 442 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 443 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot Com on Twitter. He's at West Hot, 444 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. 445 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in everybody, We'll see you next time.