Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody fresh off the W train from downtown
Speaker 1: and me and T's here and studio. We just had
Speaker 1: a nice moment. We're about to talk about we're going
Speaker 1: to get into this dry jam here thing here in
Speaker 1: just a second of row tweet. I love this. It
Speaker 1: happened to us once before. But one of the last
Speaker 1: things that happened to us before we came into this
Speaker 1: studio today was a nice guy we just ran into
Speaker 1: on the train, nice and loud, and initially we wanted
Speaker 1: to say, oh, my goodness, he's annoying, but he was very,
Speaker 1: very sweet to us, and it was just a great
Speaker 1: experience that we wanted to share.
Speaker 2: Yes, people don't often know what to do if you
Speaker 2: see someone, and it's always a good thing. I think
Speaker 2: to say something kindly. You don't necessarily have to yell
Speaker 2: it on the subway so that everybody turns in stairs.
Speaker 2: But no, I think everyone appreciates a kind word or two.
Speaker 2: And most people do want photos, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: nice after our almost year of avoiding all cameras at
Speaker 2: all costs, to be able to say, sure, we'll take
Speaker 2: a selfie with you. And it was nice and it
Speaker 2: was sweet, and he did say he watched us every
Speaker 2: day on TV.
Speaker 1: Out for a year.
Speaker 2: I think maybe he didn't pay his bill. Yeah, we've
Speaker 2: had that a couple of times, like, are you sure
Speaker 2: which channel.
Speaker 3: I'd like to watch?
Speaker 1: But John is his name? John. We just met on
Speaker 1: the W train from downtown. Rather, we want to know
Speaker 1: that you had an impact on us, and we appreciate
Speaker 1: you taking the time to say hello and as excited
Speaker 1: as you were. And we walked away from him and
Speaker 1: he said to us, don't let anyone get in the
Speaker 1: way of love.
Speaker 3: It was very sweet.
Speaker 1: It was a very sweet moment before we came in
Speaker 1: here and we didn't we planned on starting a different way,
Speaker 1: but that was a very nice thing he did. So
Speaker 1: thank you for that. John. But we are talking. We
Speaker 1: know a lot of you out there are doing dry January.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about it. Seems more and more people are
Speaker 1: participating every year. But we want to start by asking you,
Speaker 1: if you are hearing our voices right now, want you
Speaker 1: to answer this question to yourself and answer it honestly.
Speaker 1: On average, how many drinks per week do you consume?
Speaker 1: Give you a moment now, Robes, what do you think
Speaker 1: people are doing in their mind? Are they being honest
Speaker 1: with themselves right now.
Speaker 3: I think they're not wanting to.
Speaker 2: But deep down there's that little voice saying, but remember,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, then there was that oh yeah, maybe when
Speaker 2: that happened. So I think we all want to believe
Speaker 2: we drink less. In fact, so my brother is a doctor,
Speaker 2: doctor Eric Robock, and he told me this a long
Speaker 2: time ago. He's an internist, and so he has people
Speaker 2: come in and one of the first things your doctor
Speaker 2: asks you on your yearly exam is how many drinks
Speaker 2: would you say you have per week?
Speaker 3: He said, As a rule.
Speaker 2: Of thumb among doctors or among physicians, they always know
Speaker 2: to double the number. So whatever you tell your doctor,
Speaker 2: just know they're writing down double because they know you're
Speaker 2: not being honest.
Speaker 1: All right, So, folks, we gave you a second there.
Speaker 1: If you're hearing us, I asked, being honest with yourself,
Speaker 1: how many drinks per week do you have? My next
Speaker 1: question is if you were filling out that questionnaire that
Speaker 1: roboq was just talking, or if your doctor asked you,
Speaker 1: what is the answer you would give. I would normally
Speaker 1: give three to five a day, and that is such
Speaker 1: a lie. I would tell a doctor that. But that
Speaker 1: is not true. What would you tell on a questionnaire
Speaker 1: I tell your doctor.
Speaker 3: I would say I have two drinks a day.
Speaker 2: Stop laughing, okay, And that still puts me in the
Speaker 2: heavy drinker category.
Speaker 1: I am with you all day, every day almost and
Speaker 1: two that's cute.
Speaker 3: Last year was a little bit of an anomaly.
Speaker 1: Yes it was, but a lot of people had an
Speaker 1: anomaly during the pandemic. So and we've come back down
Speaker 1: on our levels. But the true answer you said you
Speaker 1: would tell a doctor.
Speaker 2: What to fourteen to a day, I'd say, you know,
Speaker 2: between ten and fifteen drinks a week. That is what
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 1: Say to a doctor. Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: It was at one point in my life.
Speaker 1: But you were fourteen?
Speaker 2: No, No, I actually so I kind of broke this
Speaker 2: down as I was thinking about this. Obviously, high school
Speaker 2: and college is more about just every now and then
Speaker 2: binge drinking, which is not obviously admirable in any way.
Speaker 2: But in my twenties, when I started working, A, I
Speaker 2: was working ninety hours a week and B I was
Speaker 2: making twenty thousand dollars a year, so I didn't have
Speaker 2: money for alcohol, which was a good thing. So I
Speaker 2: remember having a six pack of beer in my fridge
Speaker 2: and it would last well over a week. So that
Speaker 2: was just a matter of finances and time. I didn't
Speaker 2: have any time, and I didn't have any money. In
Speaker 2: my thirties, I had kids, I had my babies, and
Speaker 2: I really got into wine. And I think that is
Speaker 2: when I became a moderates a heavy drinker, where I
Speaker 2: was having seven to ten, sometimes fifteen drinks a week,
Speaker 2: and I always binged on celebratory nights, and binging is
Speaker 2: what you looked it up.
Speaker 1: So that is amazing to me. All right. That's something
Speaker 1: else we want to ask everybody is would you consider
Speaker 1: yourself a moderate drinker, a heavy drinker or a binge drinker?
Speaker 1: I guess I would always say I'm a heavy drinker.
Speaker 1: Would you have put yourself in that category?
Speaker 3: Oh in the last decade for sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, a heavy drinker. So moderate for you folks out
Speaker 1: there who think you're a moderate drinker, that means that
Speaker 1: you are having for a man at least that is
Speaker 1: fifteen is for men.
Speaker 3: And one drink a day, so seven less than seven.
Speaker 1: Is that's for the week for women?
Speaker 3: Right for women?
Speaker 1: All right? So you hear that. We got Andrew and Emma,
Speaker 1: two of our producers in the room here with us,
Speaker 1: and we were talking to them about and we're trying
Speaker 1: to get an honest answer. And Emma, if you don't
Speaker 1: want me saying, it's twenty two over there, and we
Speaker 1: were asking her about her drinking habits. Now, would you, Emma,
Speaker 1: I have that would you have considered yourself a moderate drinker,
Speaker 1: a heavy drinker, or would you have called yourself somebody
Speaker 1: who binge drinks as well?
Speaker 4: Well? I think before learning this information, I classified myself
Speaker 4: as a moderate drinker, but I think according to the numbers,
Speaker 4: I might be a binge drinker.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So binge for old men's considered more
Speaker 1: than five drinks on one occasion or within two hours
Speaker 1: for women, And that's four drinks on one occasion or
Speaker 1: within two hours. How often do you do that?
Speaker 3: Ropes often?
Speaker 1: Off you, Emma. Often? Okay. So this is what this
Speaker 1: is all for, Drid January. And we know and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of differing opinions out there about this. But
Speaker 1: some things think this is great. Anytime you can take
Speaker 1: a break, it's good for your health. That's awesome. Other
Speaker 1: people think, why are we doing this? People just go
Speaker 1: right back to their old habits. It's not good for
Speaker 1: your health. If you binge then abstained, then binged and abstained,
Speaker 1: that's no good. And the other thing about it is
Speaker 1: people all up in your face about it. It gets annoying
Speaker 1: that every time I'm sorry, I'm doing dry January, and
Speaker 1: on social media everybody who look at my mocktail. I'm
Speaker 1: guilty of that. I put up a post showing a month,
Speaker 1: but it gets commercialized and it gets annoying.
Speaker 3: I get that, and I understand how that would be annoying.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think you were pretty annoying to me
Speaker 2: in years past when you would.
Speaker 3: Say you were doing your dry January.
Speaker 2: It was like for those of us who didn't in
Speaker 2: the past, who hadn't, it kind of felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: are you better than me?
Speaker 3: Or you have more willpower than me?
Speaker 1: Is that an impression of me you're doing?
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yes, but clearly not accurate.
Speaker 2: I would say though, now that I'm participating in dry January,
Speaker 2: it is a part accountability, like if I announce it now,
Speaker 2: you're gonna hold me accountable because you can't see me
Speaker 2: order a drink and I'm not gonna have a drink.
Speaker 2: But also I'm explaining because normally, if you're hanging out
Speaker 2: with me, I'm not going to a restaurant or going
Speaker 2: up to a bar and ordering a club soda. So
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just like, hey, here's why I'm ordering a
Speaker 2: club soda. Not that I own anyone an explanation, but
Speaker 2: it sometimes requires an explanation. If you know me and
Speaker 2: you're friends with me, I'm not pregnant. But that's kind
Speaker 2: of funny anyway, because I'm fifty, so.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't even't really be an option.
Speaker 1: But any you're not pregnant. Some of us appreciate that
Speaker 1: information more than others.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And Andrew here in studio with us actually is doing
Speaker 2: dry January as well, And can I ask you why
Speaker 2: and how you would have classified yourself as a drinker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So for the holidays, it's usually ramps up a lot,
Speaker 5: like November and December. I did't even go into October
Speaker 5: at this point. It's just there's a lot of drinking.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of celebrating, and come January, you just
Speaker 5: kind of want to dry up a little bit and
Speaker 5: just like give yourself that clarity that I feel it
Speaker 5: gives you. I did it last year, and it really
Speaker 5: just helped me realize, like, oh, when you go out,
Speaker 5: it's okay to have one or two drinks. You don't
Speaker 5: need to be drinking four, five, six, seven, eight drinks
Speaker 5: when you're out, because for me, I think I do
Speaker 5: been drinking. I don't drink during the week. Become a
Speaker 5: Friday or a Saturday or even a Sunday. When I'm
Speaker 5: at home with my parents, it's like bottles of wine,
Speaker 5: tons of drinks, and I just was like, I need
Speaker 5: to take a break.
Speaker 1: We don't even think about it. And most people, it's
Speaker 1: four of us sitting in here, all four of us.
Speaker 1: We didn't coordinate, but all of us are. Wait, you're
Speaker 1: not doing the dry January. You all should see how
Speaker 1: you can see how Emma just looked at me as
Speaker 1: you're doing it.
Speaker 3: That was that was me every other year.
Speaker 1: Oh hell no, but you did a lot. So fifteen
Speaker 1: percent of the adult population.
Speaker 2: That's about forty million million folks.
Speaker 1: Are doing dry January. Then you have millions more who
Speaker 1: are doing a damp or some type of dryer dry ish.
Speaker 2: It's called semi dry or damp January. And that is
Speaker 2: what I had done in the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: because even that feels great, that's even better than doing nothing.
Speaker 2: So you designate. I designated. I think I did three
Speaker 2: days a week. I could drink four days a week.
Speaker 2: I did not, and that actually felt really good and
Speaker 2: very reasonable. If it seems too overwhelming to go on
Speaker 2: like full cold turkey for January. So and by the way,
Speaker 2: at any point, it's okay to start. You can start
Speaker 2: right now. You don't have to have done it starting
Speaker 2: January one. We actually, in all truth started January second. Yes,
Speaker 2: because January first, U stay well, because it was well,
Speaker 2: I mean I get it. We by a day because
Speaker 2: it was football.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, this didn't Technically it doesn't matter because you're
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. You're celebrating as soon as you you know,
Speaker 1: you clinking the glasses at midnight, you're technically drinking on
Speaker 1: January one. Anyway, we're big college football fans, so the
Speaker 1: big college football day, so we were going to drink
Speaker 1: during that. So, yes, we did drink on January one.
Speaker 3: We started January two.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people did that, So don't
Speaker 1: hold that against this if you could, please. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it is kind of a movement now, so people have
Speaker 1: their reasons. So Andy, you just mentioned something about going
Speaker 1: out and drinking. Do you need five or six or
Speaker 1: seven or eight drinks when you go out? What's the
Speaker 1: other part of that, though, that's a problem buying six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight drinks? You're so right at a restaurant, yep, cost
Speaker 1: you a pretty penny. So, in addition to Robes and
Speaker 1: I are feeling great right now because we are on
Speaker 1: our drive January kick, we feel amazing. She was walking
Speaker 1: today into the studio said, I got some pepp in
Speaker 1: my step.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 1: How you do? It feels absolutely great. But we added
Speaker 1: up December. Oh my goodness, how much money.
Speaker 3: So embarrassing.
Speaker 1: We spent on alcohol for the month. And we were
Speaker 1: able to do this by going back and looking at
Speaker 1: receipts from our account, also looking at Drizzly.
Speaker 3: We love Drizzly.
Speaker 1: How much reorder there?
Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, it's an app
Speaker 2: on your phone and in major cities, all you have
Speaker 2: to do is go on to drizzly and say what
Speaker 2: you want alcohol wise to come to your apartment and
Speaker 2: it is there within thirty minutes. It's pretty amazing and
Speaker 2: also very dangerous, so it's easy.
Speaker 1: For us to come up with what we spent. This
Speaker 1: does not include, however, the trips we made every once
Speaker 1: in a while to a liquor store. So this is
Speaker 1: strictly drizzly and going out our number.
Speaker 2: Can I also say, though a couple of my Drisley
Speaker 2: orders involved other people in my apartment, it wasn't that I.
Speaker 3: And the only one who can do this.
Speaker 2: I had people over, my parents, friends, So just I
Speaker 2: wanted to make that caveat why because it's a crazy number.
Speaker 1: Most of that don't do that. We were here to
Speaker 1: be open and honest, to have every third number. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: we spend in the month of December two eight hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty nine dollars on alcohol alone. Period.
Speaker 3: I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what I thought the number
Speaker 1: would be higher, to be honest with you, but that
Speaker 1: is an amount of money now that is going to
Speaker 1: be saved in January. So Andy was saying, you go out.
Speaker 1: That is another benefit. There are health benefits, there are
Speaker 1: financial benefits. Some people do it with a family member
Speaker 1: or a friend. He talked about accountability. Some people just
Speaker 1: want to reset, like Andy was saying as well. Between
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and New Year's we all go at it food
Speaker 1: wise and alcohol wise, and some people want to do
Speaker 1: a little weight loss. You were talking about this. Have
Speaker 1: you experienced it yet?
Speaker 2: Yes, So we're a week and a half in and
Speaker 2: I have been stepping on the scale because I'm curious,
Speaker 2: and I've already lost two pounds.
Speaker 1: I'm three to five pounds down. Wow, three five. But
Speaker 1: do you know how I that eating as well? Yep?
Speaker 1: And all the running and I drop weight so quickly,
Speaker 1: which isn't healthy, I don't think. But I've dropped that
Speaker 1: weight already this month.
Speaker 3: That's incredible. I mean, that's just and that's just.
Speaker 2: This is a week and a half in so and
Speaker 2: that's the only major change. I mean, we've always been runners,
Speaker 2: and we've always been pretty good about watching what we eat.
Speaker 3: So the alcohol is the big change that we've made.
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about our numbers yet.
Speaker 2: And I say this because one of the biggest problems
Speaker 2: with drinking and alcohol in your relationship with it, as
Speaker 2: we mentioned at the top, is that most people are
Speaker 2: not honest about it. And you know, I hesitate a
Speaker 2: little bit because I just know what the headlines are
Speaker 2: going to be, and it's daunting to think about what
Speaker 2: people will write in a headline if I say how
Speaker 2: much I drink a week. But I will say this
Speaker 2: past year, a lot of people experience the pandemic and
Speaker 2: excessive amounts of drinking because a were bored. You didn't
Speaker 2: have anywhere to go, you had nothing to do, you
Speaker 2: had no one to see, and work was from home.
Speaker 2: I didn't experience that. I was at work every day.
Speaker 2: I was working more than I have actually in recent years.
Speaker 2: So last year was my pandemic. I didn't have a
Speaker 2: job to go to, I was staying away from a
Speaker 2: lot of friends and family.
Speaker 3: We were laying low.
Speaker 2: And so what did I do.
Speaker 3: I drank a lot, a lot more than I ever have.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever gone a full year where
Speaker 2: I drank every single day, and that was twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three for me.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't that I was getting wasted or drunk
Speaker 3: or any of that.
Speaker 2: It was just keeping a buzz going all day, or
Speaker 2: at least keeping a relaxed state of mind in a heightened,
Speaker 2: anxious year. And so I'm appalled when I look back
Speaker 2: at how much I actually drank.
Speaker 1: But we were look a lot of people and including
Speaker 1: the ones in the room here with us. We asked
Speaker 1: you asked folks initially how much did you do? And
Speaker 1: people want to try to initially fudge the numbers. And
Speaker 1: then once you start talking a little more about it
Speaker 1: and getting a little more open and honest about it,
Speaker 1: you find some realities about your alcohol use that maybe
Speaker 1: you need to re examine your relationship with I think
Speaker 1: you are somebody who would admit that. I am certainly
Speaker 1: somebody who right now and in years past, need to
Speaker 1: re examine my relationship with alcohol. And that's what we
Speaker 1: are doing, and I hope a lot of you all
Speaker 1: are doing right now as well. But we part of
Speaker 1: this in us talking to you is we have to
Speaker 1: be honest, and so we are going to be honest
Speaker 1: about our alcohol intake, why we do it, what that
Speaker 1: number actually is, and what we're going to do about
Speaker 1: it moving forward. All of that is coming up next,
Speaker 1: Amy and TJ back here now, we were speaking to
Speaker 1: you before we took that little break about the number.
Speaker 1: We asked you all to come up with it. Really,
Speaker 1: how much, if you're being honest with yourself, how many
Speaker 1: drinks do you have per week? You'll tell yours the
Speaker 1: honest number is one thing you tell your doctor on
Speaker 1: a questionnaire a different answer. But Robes, you said something
Speaker 1: before we took that break that jumped out at me,
Speaker 1: and I get it. You said you're worried about what
Speaker 1: the headline would be.
Speaker 2: Right, Isn't that what it always is? So you're worried
Speaker 2: about about what people will think, what people will say,
Speaker 2: and so you fudget a little bit.
Speaker 1: When we say people. Right, in our situation, we know
Speaker 1: that saying something is going to get plucked and is
Speaker 1: going to get twisted in some way to make some awful,
Speaker 1: salacious headline just to get you to click, click bait,
Speaker 1: just to get you to click, and then you're going
Speaker 1: to click and ah, that's not weirdly what it really was,
Speaker 1: but as long as you click, so it was just something.
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate that we sit here and we're trying
Speaker 1: to be open and honest and talk so freely and
Speaker 1: relate to people on this very issue, and we hesitate,
Speaker 1: And I get why, but we hesitate because while being
Speaker 1: honest is going to produce something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cheers to my new Google search. That's what I
Speaker 2: say before I talk about this. When I did an
Speaker 2: honest assessment and It's funny because I'm going to bring
Speaker 2: you into this because as I was doing it in
Speaker 2: my head and my math, you jumped in with something
Speaker 2: that changes it. So I think it's pretty honest to
Speaker 2: say before last year, I think fifteen to twenty is
Speaker 2: probably a more honest answer of what I drank per week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: two drinks a day average, but sometimes i'd have three
Speaker 2: or four. This year, I would say it was at
Speaker 2: least three drinks a day and oftentimes more so, could
Speaker 2: be four, could be five. And so I was saying
Speaker 2: I'm at least above twenty one plus drinks per week.
Speaker 2: But you made a good point. So yes, if I'm
Speaker 2: having a glass of rose or a beer that's measurable,
Speaker 2: Actually probably not even because my pores are heavy. Five
Speaker 2: ounces is actually what it is for wine, and ain't
Speaker 2: no I pour myself a five ounce glass of wine.
Speaker 2: So I mean you might even double what I just said,
Speaker 2: given the fact that I make probably more of a
Speaker 2: nine ounce poor, which is what you are typically used
Speaker 2: to seeing.
Speaker 3: But you and I, the drinks I drink.
Speaker 2: Are beer, wine, and Margarita's. Oh, aprile spritzes too. I
Speaker 2: love apple spritzes. Those are I mean, okay, that's pretty
Speaker 2: much my wheelhouse. But you pointed out when you make
Speaker 2: a margarita, it's not just one drink.
Speaker 1: So that's a mistake that a lot of people make
Speaker 1: and doing your number. So we asked you the top
Speaker 1: what your number was. You might recalculate once you hear this.
Speaker 1: The official guideline say that one drink is a either
Speaker 1: a one beer or a five ounce glass of wine,
Speaker 1: or one and a half ounces of liquor one point
Speaker 1: five ounces of liquor. So a margarita the way we
Speaker 1: make them at home at least has two shots of
Speaker 1: tequila and one and a half shots of quantro. That
Speaker 1: is easily can be categorized as two drinks in at one.
Speaker 3: Drink, maybe even more possibly.
Speaker 1: So what does that do to your number? So I
Speaker 1: started adding mine up.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm over thirty drinks a week. Then okay, if
Speaker 2: that is the math and that is that is appalling
Speaker 2: to me. That is embarrassing to me. That is not
Speaker 2: what I wish it were.
Speaker 1: But you're not alone in it, and we're just happen
Speaker 1: to be saying it out loud. I mean the number
Speaker 1: four heavy drinking for a week for a woman is
Speaker 1: eight or more per week, So you certainly fall into
Speaker 1: the category of heavy drinking.
Speaker 3: I knew that, but I didn't realize just how much.
Speaker 1: Okay, so, and again you're you're not alone in that,
Speaker 1: but mine. When I said it to you, you said,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, help me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I honestly it was jaw dropping and not possible to me.
Speaker 1: So I can easily go through eighteen drinks a day, Nan,
Speaker 1: How you can do that? It's we run. Everybody's familiar
Speaker 1: with that at this point. But we're big runners. I
Speaker 1: like to do my run in the morning. But something
Speaker 1: we also you got me into something called run to fun.
Speaker 2: We do that during the we do that, but normally
Speaker 2: what happened after work at noon we would go for
Speaker 2: a run and then go.
Speaker 1: Have are a lot of cavet youre trying to explain things.
Speaker 2: That is true though, That is when we had actual
Speaker 2: or not nine to five, but Monday through Friday jobs
Speaker 2: where you were, you know, responsible for being alert and
Speaker 2: on your game.
Speaker 3: You obviously we're not drinking.
Speaker 1: You want to stop talking about the past.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Run to fun is what you coined. When you finish
Speaker 1: your drink, it's nice outside, you literally run to what
Speaker 1: I say.
Speaker 3: Finished when you finish your run.
Speaker 1: When I finished my drink, I go for a run,
Speaker 1: but you literally finish your run and the run end
Speaker 1: at a bar. You map out your run so that
Speaker 1: you're running five miles. You hit five miles at a
Speaker 1: particular bar insteadive to get the work done. So now
Speaker 1: if we're not doing that out, we'll go run eight
Speaker 1: nine in the morning, it doesn't matter what two miles, four, five, six, ten,
Speaker 1: and I come back and we have a beer. I
Speaker 1: put two beers in the freezer and let them get
Speaker 1: a little colder, and we'll have a Miller light. A
Speaker 1: Miller light, okay, so you have the one. I'll end
Speaker 1: up with two. So here we are at ten in
Speaker 1: the morning after a run, I am two drinks in
Speaker 1: at ten am. That's easy. We go to lunch to
Speaker 1: drink minimum at lunch fair to say, yeah, okay, Now,
Speaker 1: if we're not out and about for the day running
Speaker 1: errands or doing something and we're just inside, could easily
Speaker 1: have my drink a drink in my hand from two
Speaker 1: in the afternoon until seven, eight, nine, ten o'clock at night.
Speaker 1: So you do those numbers, and that's a drinking hour
Speaker 1: for another eight hours, you could argue, or even less,
Speaker 1: but that's another eight hours of a drink in hand,
Speaker 1: plus the four I've already had during the day. The
Speaker 1: problem there is that some of those drinks made at
Speaker 1: home are margarite.
Speaker 2: You're not actually pouring yourself eighteen drinks. You're actually adding
Speaker 2: the liquor you put into it. And I would argue,
Speaker 2: what also makes it a little fuzzier is what we
Speaker 2: would do sometimes in the afternoon, chilling whatever, again no work,
Speaker 2: and we would make just a big margarita and we
Speaker 2: would just kind of sip it and share it. So
Speaker 2: I have no way of knowing actually how much I had,
Speaker 2: how much you had. It was just like a slow
Speaker 2: you know, over a period of you know, an hour.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So if you do that math, eighteen drinks a day
Speaker 1: for seven days, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, I can't.
Speaker 1: That is it's difficult to compute. But again for folks
Speaker 1: out there, And we were talking to Emma here in
Speaker 1: the room, our wonderful producer who's sitting here, but she's
Speaker 1: twenty two year old, young lady. We were talking to
Speaker 1: her about the drinking and it was surprising and a
Speaker 1: lot of people will will reassess your number, because she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have this many, but then I'll have drink. I
Speaker 1: have shots in between, but I don't count the shots.
Speaker 1: Don't count the shots? Now why did that even? Why
Speaker 1: did you even? Why don't shots count? In your head?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's either a good way to start
Speaker 4: the night, so you kind of forget that you took them.
Speaker 4: It's like exit the door a couple shots, or you're
Speaker 4: at the bar. You took them and then you grab
Speaker 4: your drink, so all you remember was grabbing your drink
Speaker 4: and leaving the bar.
Speaker 2: And so the shots didn't count because it was just quick.
Speaker 2: It wasn't an exerience of having a drink. Yes, correct,
Speaker 2: and so yes we have to count.
Speaker 3: The shot was.
Speaker 4: Absolutely an experience, but they were not counted in my drinking.
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: And do you think that you also, like I didn't
Speaker 2: do this either. Consider if you're having a mixed drink,
Speaker 2: how many shots are in the mixed drink so it's
Speaker 2: not just one drink?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, right, really think about that.
Speaker 2: Neither did I.
Speaker 4: I explicitly would get a double shot gin and tonic.
Speaker 1: That was my thing. So and again, folks, we say
Speaker 1: this in look obviously we love our drinking, but to
Speaker 1: hear like the World Health Organization and these big groups
Speaker 1: say there's no amount of alcohol that is safe to consume,
Speaker 1: not a sip of it, and the recommendations for heavy
Speaker 1: drinking a moderate drinking that you should obviously be in
Speaker 1: the moderate drinking category. You want to be as low
Speaker 1: as possible. But for me to sit here and actually
Speaker 1: do the math, which is the first time I've done
Speaker 1: it in the past year, but eighteen drinks that I
Speaker 1: don't do that every day on an You don't do
Speaker 1: that every day, no, no, no, no no, But easily
Speaker 1: when we were just lounging and doing nothing. That's an
Speaker 1: easy number to get.
Speaker 2: When I was looking into the research of this, because
Speaker 2: there was so much I didn't know. One of the
Speaker 2: first things that all of the experts suggest, if you're
Speaker 2: considering or you are doing dry January or maybe even
Speaker 2: starting now mid January, I mean, it's never too late.
Speaker 2: Why why do you want to make a change? And
Speaker 2: I can say this for me, I knew this past
Speaker 2: year was an anomaly. It was not a year that
Speaker 2: hopefully will ever be repeated. But it's been weighing heavily
Speaker 2: on me. Not just about the amount of alcohol that
Speaker 2: I consumed, but also what I know about alcohol and cancer,
Speaker 2: and specifically breast cancer. I am a breast cancer survivor,
Speaker 2: and when I was diagnosed, one of the first things
Speaker 2: that my doctors told me was to reduce my alcohol intake.
Speaker 2: It raises estrogen levels, so it increases your chance of
Speaker 2: developing breast cancer in the first place. And I will
Speaker 2: say this because I'm someone who lives with the fear
Speaker 2: of for currence, as all breast cancer survivors do. There's
Speaker 2: no scientific proof as of yet, but most doctors believe
Speaker 2: because it raises your estrogen levels, especially if you have
Speaker 2: a hormone positive cancer like I did, it also then
Speaker 2: it would make sense that it raises your chance for reoccurrence. Now,
Speaker 2: there is no strong evidence from studies to support or
Speaker 2: to refute it, but my god, I would still always
Speaker 2: say it's better to err on the side of caution,
Speaker 2: and so I know that that's such an important part
Speaker 2: of my life. I have changed my diet, I have
Speaker 2: changed my exercise, I have focused on sleep, but alcohol
Speaker 2: has been something that I haven't fully committed to reducing.
Speaker 2: And in fact, as I pointed out last year, I increased.
Speaker 1: But why don't you. I'm saying, this is somebody in
Speaker 1: this conversation that works with you, but somebody that loves you,
Speaker 1: who who sees what you go through really for the
Speaker 1: past nine plus years, right, but now someone who I
Speaker 1: am this close to and dealing with every day and
Speaker 1: every little health scare and everything that goes on. And
Speaker 1: folks who are listening, wait a minute, you got another
Speaker 1: chance at life, you had, you beat breast cancer. So
Speaker 1: why is it when your doctor tells you you need
Speaker 1: to reduce this just cuts Why even take the risk?
Speaker 1: Why is it you still drink the way you do?
Speaker 2: I think that for me, and I always said this,
Speaker 2: I don't. I've never been one to drink to mask pain.
Speaker 2: I always drink to enhance joy. And so I love
Speaker 2: that little extra kick of I loved a lot. It's
Speaker 2: probably my favorite thing to do in life. And so
Speaker 2: if you have that drink in your hand, you laugh
Speaker 2: a little more, you dance a little more. Life just
Speaker 2: gets a little more fun as long as you know
Speaker 2: not to drink too much. And that has always been
Speaker 2: part of what I've loved about the experience of drinking,
Speaker 2: is just getting that little extra boost I guess is
Speaker 2: the way I would put it. And then you can
Speaker 2: also go into this whole thing where life is short,
Speaker 2: have the wine. I do so many other things that
Speaker 2: are healthy that might offset the drinking. So you start
Speaker 2: rationalizing it in your head, and there's no I will
Speaker 2: also say this, and I think you can agree.
Speaker 3: And most people who know me know that I don't
Speaker 3: know why. I don't know how, and.
Speaker 2: I've always called it a curse and a blessing. I
Speaker 2: don't get hangovers, so I don't really pay the price
Speaker 2: the next morning the way a lot of people do,
Speaker 2: and so there's a lot less incentive for me not
Speaker 2: to go ahead and have some fun. So all of
Speaker 2: those reasons why I rationalize drinking.
Speaker 1: But you say I rationalize almost as if you're acknowledge
Speaker 1: that it's irrational.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm acknowledging it fully fully.
Speaker 1: How about you?
Speaker 3: Why do you drink?
Speaker 1: Well, it's changed over time, right, College is one thing
Speaker 1: and high school is a different thing. And talk about
Speaker 1: my relationship with alcohol, it goes back to I have
Speaker 1: needed to change my relationship with alcohol for a long time,
Speaker 1: to the point I was suspended from high school for drinking,
Speaker 1: and my dad was the princess. I was going to say,
Speaker 1: by your father, my dad sent my ass home to
Speaker 1: his house to suspend me. This is one hundred percent
Speaker 1: true story. I'll have him on and let him tell
Speaker 1: you later. But that was a rough day, but it
Speaker 1: goes back to it. I was getting in trouble for
Speaker 1: drinking that early on. Of course, college is a blur,
Speaker 1: but after that just alcohol has always been a part
Speaker 1: of the social experiment. But I got to and I
Speaker 1: think for the first time, twenty twenty fifteen, I got
Speaker 1: a diagnosis of modredly severe depression. I didn't do anything
Speaker 1: about it until about twenty twenty, but in that five
Speaker 1: year stretch, I was in a really, really bad mental place,
Speaker 1: and that is when I, for the first time in
Speaker 1: my life, I started drinking to mask pain. You just
Speaker 1: want that pain to stop, and that alcohol was doing it,
Speaker 1: and I was. I drink. We talked about the eighteen
Speaker 1: drinks here, but then I could easily get up first
Speaker 1: thing in the morning in poorovodka orange juice. Wow, no problem.
Speaker 1: But that was trying to mask pain. I drink downs.
Speaker 1: You know, I like my drinks. You know I like
Speaker 1: to mixing. But initially I started it before it became
Speaker 1: a movement just because, to Andy's point, earlier Thanksgiving to
Speaker 1: New Year's we are all going at it hard, so
Speaker 1: much alcohol, you're not eating the way you normally would.
Speaker 1: And then when January one came around, like a let
Speaker 1: me take a break. So I just started doing it
Speaker 1: kind of after college and enjoyed it, loved how I felt.
Speaker 1: And then you have to ask yourself, well, you feel
Speaker 1: this good, why the hell won't you just do this
Speaker 1: all the time, and you can curtail, you can cut back.
Speaker 1: I just I think maybe I did a little in
Speaker 1: twenty I think before everything went down with us, I
Speaker 1: was probably curtailing my drinking a little bit. And then
Speaker 1: everything went down with us in twenty twenty three and
Speaker 1: we were drinking non stop.
Speaker 3: And so now it is a reset.
Speaker 2: And I want to give you props here because I
Speaker 2: have done, as I said, a couple of times, a
Speaker 2: damp or a semi dry January, which I love. But
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would have felt comfortable or
Speaker 2: felt honestly, this may sound crazy, but I don't know
Speaker 2: that I would have felt brave enough or courageous enough
Speaker 2: to say I am one hundred percent going cold Turkey
Speaker 2: this month if you hadn't said I'm doing it and
Speaker 2: we can do it together. And I know that that
Speaker 2: is one of the big tips if you're thinking about this,
Speaker 2: is to have somebody do it with you. It does
Speaker 2: make a big difference.
Speaker 1: And so you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely gave me the confidence and the courage to go
Speaker 2: ahead and say, Okay, I'm on record, I'm not drinking
Speaker 2: at all this month. In fact, I have to say,
Speaker 2: my two daughters said, you're not going to make it,
Speaker 2: You're not going to last They did not. They don't
Speaker 2: think I'm going to make it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you want a drink like the
Speaker 1: past couple of days, have you? Well, I really want
Speaker 1: to drink?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, But it's nothing crazy. I mean, there's to
Speaker 2: the point where we've just said how much we have
Speaker 2: been drinking this past year. There's no withdrawal for me, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't feel that at all. But yeah, I've definitely
Speaker 2: wanted an aperol sprits around five PM a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Sure, not at all. I haven't even the past few days.
Speaker 1: I'm in a rhythm now to where alcohol is not
Speaker 1: a part of my life anymore. So I don't even
Speaker 1: think about it and planning in events I'm doing and
Speaker 1: parties I'm going to, or lunches I'm having or games
Speaker 1: I'm watching. It's not even a part of it. It's
Speaker 1: just second nature.
Speaker 2: Now, stop drinking, all right, So when we come back,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about our tips, what we've been doing,
Speaker 2: and also what scientists would doctors say actually happens to
Speaker 2: your body in thirty days when you stop drinking. Welcome
Speaker 2: back everyone to Amy and TJ. We are talking about
Speaker 2: ride January. We're a week and a half in and
Speaker 2: so far, so good. We mentioned I've.
Speaker 3: Lost two pounds, you've lost three to five.
Speaker 2: Three to five pounds, okay, so that's just scratching the surface.
Speaker 2: I have already a lot more energy. And I know
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping better. I feel like I have more mental clarity.
Speaker 2: So there's all these things that you feel better about. You.
Speaker 2: You're the same.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see me and you know my sleeping habits.
Speaker 1: So I sleep much better. I sleep so much better.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're not in a haze. I'm sharper. I
Speaker 1: got more energy. I feel so much better in the
Speaker 1: month of January when I do this.
Speaker 2: I saw you smile this morning and I said Oh,
Speaker 2: you're smiling in the morning.
Speaker 3: That was a big wait.
Speaker 1: I don't usually smile, Lord, yeah, not that much.
Speaker 2: What I mean, you're usually focused in the morning. But
Speaker 2: you were smiling, and that was so great.
Speaker 1: Because I was happy to see you. I had been
Speaker 1: sitting up by myself two hours working on this podcast
Speaker 1: four am.
Speaker 2: I get up in a six am. That's about the
Speaker 2: way we roll. Interesting what happens though. We talk about cravings.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily a craving for alcohol. But I read
Speaker 2: that eating more protein curbs cravings when you are doing
Speaker 2: a dry january, because scientifically this makes sense. Your blood
Speaker 2: sugar is responding to the reduction of alcohol intake, and
Speaker 2: so your body what does it want and wants sugar
Speaker 2: and you have experienced this. I'm not a big sugar
Speaker 2: person anyway, but wow, you have really invested in Twizzlers.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of you know, I stopped eating.
Speaker 1: I'm in a bad, bad candy habit my whole life,
Speaker 1: really and certainly during my career, and sitting on a
Speaker 1: set it'd be a big bag of what gut ummy
Speaker 1: Bear's Summi Bears sitting there during every single show. I
Speaker 1: got some a bad report from a dentist a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and I quick candy cold turkey just stopped.
Speaker 1: And I went almost two years without having a single
Speaker 1: bitey can until now. Until now, And you've seen me.
Speaker 1: I can't stop heavy.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: I am going after candy non just stop during January. Men,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, Yeah, it does, okay.
Speaker 2: And so what we've done is I have been drinking
Speaker 2: about a case today of Lacroix.
Speaker 3: I love club soda. I'm not a big.
Speaker 2: Mocktail person because I again I don't like to add
Speaker 2: the sugar, but we put them in wineglasses and I
Speaker 2: send some lemons or limes or rosemary and one of
Speaker 2: the other big things to talk about saving money. We
Speaker 2: would go out probably once a day or close to that,
Speaker 2: at least, you know, five times a week. And we
Speaker 2: where do we sit at the ba at the bar?
Speaker 2: That's where the fun is, right. It just there's energy
Speaker 2: up there. It just it feels good. But then probably
Speaker 2: you end up having more drinks flow than you would
Speaker 2: have otherwise if you were sitting at a table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the bartender you could just call the name,
Speaker 1: that'll come right to.
Speaker 3: You and just another round. Sure, why not?
Speaker 2: So we've only gone out once for lunch one time
Speaker 2: and we sat at a table. We did not sit
Speaker 2: at the bar. So we're not going out and so
Speaker 2: we're staying in. We're saving a lot of money. We're
Speaker 2: cooking at home and it's nice, right, it is nice.
Speaker 1: So there are incentive and to your you can people
Speaker 1: want to can a month make a difference? Yes, there
Speaker 1: are differences your body. These are measurable. We have anecdotal
Speaker 1: evidence of it working, but there is science behind it that,
Speaker 1: in fact, in a month you can do and reverse
Speaker 1: some damage. In one month of abstaining from alcohol.
Speaker 2: It's pretty remarkable. In fact, we can break it down
Speaker 2: by week. So the first week of alcohol free, doctor say,
Speaker 2: you'll see you have improved hydration and that includes like
Speaker 2: your skin, Ladies, if you're worried about aging, that all
Speaker 2: helps with skin and headaches and fatigue, so those all
Speaker 2: get better. And then you have improved sleep quality even
Speaker 2: the first week, because alcohol disrupts, it suppresses that rem
Speaker 2: sleep that you all need. So anyway, you're gonna feel
Speaker 2: more refreshed, less tired, and your skin's gonna look amazing.
Speaker 2: Second week of being alcohol free, doctor say, you will
Speaker 2: absolutely experience mental clarity because you're gonna wake up feeling
Speaker 2: more rusted. This is what happened to me today. Increased
Speaker 2: hydration also helps with energy and brain fog. You also,
Speaker 2: and this is huge, improved digestion because alcohol causes inflammation
Speaker 2: in your intestines, so it actually starts creating stomach acid
Speaker 2: backing up, So you know you have acid reflux sometimes
Speaker 2: like a whatever, you just have a bad stomach. A
Speaker 2: lot of that has to do with alcohol intake.
Speaker 1: Okay, well everybody in the room knows you're having some
Speaker 1: stomach isissues right now.
Speaker 2: Boystomic is always noisy, and with all that lacroix that
Speaker 2: actually is I'm sure do.
Speaker 1: You want to blame it on the local world nor
Speaker 1: you had? You had a hot chili dog yesterday?
Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't put a chili on because
Speaker 2: when you were giving me so much crab about it,
Speaker 2: I just used mustard instead, and I didn't have a bun.
Speaker 3: So here's me trying to work around having a hot dog.
Speaker 3: I love them.
Speaker 2: But bottom line, after two weeks without alcohol, your stomach
Speaker 2: lining begins to return to normal. So if any of
Speaker 2: you out there have acid reflux or heartburn, you will
Speaker 2: see those symptoms start to ease up or even go
Speaker 2: away after just two weeks of not drinking alcohol. Third
Speaker 2: week alcohol free, This is what we have to look
Speaker 2: forward to next week. Reduced blood pressure, So if you
Speaker 2: have elevated blood pressure, you will see your blood pressure
Speaker 2: most likely go down and that reduces your risk of
Speaker 2: stroke or heart disease, which obviously is huge. And then
Speaker 2: you also have improved kidney health because drinking alcohol damages
Speaker 2: your kidneys over time. So after only three weeks without alcohol,
Speaker 2: doctors say your kidneys can start to heal and function properly.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's remarkable, But here's like one that really
Speaker 2: through me four weeks without alcohol. Improved liver health. This
Speaker 2: is what you were talking about. Your liver actually can scar.
Speaker 2: That's you know, talk about liver disease if you are
Speaker 2: an alcoholic or a heavy drinker, but your liver is
Speaker 2: actually capable of recovering from the damage alcohol caused. After
Speaker 2: just thirty days, you can restore your liver to its
Speaker 2: normal function. These are people who are heavy drinkers, not
Speaker 2: people who have you know, alcohol as a disease. That
Speaker 2: might be a completely different level of drinking, but heavy drinkers.
Speaker 2: Thirty days, your liver can return to normal, your glucose
Speaker 2: levels stabilize, and you have reduced anxiety. And that's ironic
Speaker 2: because a lot of people, some people may drink to
Speaker 2: ease anxiety, but actually it disrupts your entire brain, your
Speaker 2: brain's chemical structure when you're drinking all the time, So
Speaker 2: you're giving it space to actually function the way it's
Speaker 2: supposed to, and it will ultimately reduce anxiety.
Speaker 1: So thirty days and make a difference. In the point
Speaker 1: of the thirty days is not just the break. It's
Speaker 1: great to have the health break, but this is meant
Speaker 1: for all of us to re examine our relationship with
Speaker 1: alcohol and ask some of those questions, why can't I
Speaker 1: go a day without a drink, Why can't I go
Speaker 1: a week? Why do I drink? And it's a good
Speaker 1: time of self reflection. And we talk about men and
Speaker 1: women here, but women particular in particular need to pay
Speaker 1: closer attention to this for a number of reasons. Women,
Speaker 1: it takes obviously, it takes less alcohol. So you were
Speaker 1: saying you and I could drink the same thing right now,
Speaker 1: you will get drunk faster, and you will stay drunk
Speaker 1: longer than I will, and during the pandemic they started
Speaker 1: to notice it. And it happens in the past few years,
Speaker 1: there is an increase in deaths among women, a sharper
Speaker 1: increase in alcohol related deaths for women. Still more men
Speaker 1: are dying, but the increase is sharper among women. This
Speaker 1: happened around the pandemic and got to the point around
Speaker 1: on alcoholic alcohol related deaths in that month. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, California recorded more deaths from alcohol use
Speaker 1: than they did from breast cancer and car accidents combined.
Speaker 1: I just got chills during the pandemic, right, and those
Speaker 1: numbers and women are the one You really have to
Speaker 1: pay attention to the alcohol you're taking in when it
Speaker 1: comes to breast cancer, but also just being able to
Speaker 1: keep in mind heart disease, everything. It increases your everything.
Speaker 1: But for women, those increases and how your body takes
Speaker 1: in and metabolizes alcohol is something you really really have
Speaker 1: to pay attention.
Speaker 2: All Right, So what happens on February one, TJ.
Speaker 1: Nothing. I probably won't have a drink until the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl is how it usually goes, because I start to just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in a routine. So I'm not planning and want
Speaker 1: to run right out on February first and get a drink.
Speaker 1: I have no desire for a drink right now.
Speaker 2: What about my birthday?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 3: Yes, a little bit before the.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, we gotta go to town. That will probably
Speaker 1: be okay, that's what I figure it'll probably be.
Speaker 3: Yet, But how about, just like in general, are you
Speaker 3: more aware now?
Speaker 2: Are you going to change your habits or just be
Speaker 2: at least more aware of your habits?
Speaker 1: I am aware of them, I just don't take the
Speaker 1: time I'm taking now to actually do a real assessment. Right.
Speaker 1: I know how much I drink. I know I drink
Speaker 1: too much, But now is a time to whar If
Speaker 1: February first, we should all if you're doing a dry January,
Speaker 1: have a different habit moving forward, and that is going
Speaker 1: to be long term beneficial for health. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: and you're going to have to help me with that.
Speaker 1: And I are together all the time and can't remember
Speaker 1: the last time I had a drink when you weren't
Speaker 1: next to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I mean having someone to be accountable to and
Speaker 2: with is important. And you know there are a couple
Speaker 2: we'll leave you with some tips that I'm going to
Speaker 2: try to incorporate for the rest.
Speaker 3: Of the year, for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: So you can do something as simple as choosing one
Speaker 2: or two days a week where you say I am
Speaker 2: not going to drink, so designated dry days.
Speaker 3: No matter what, just pick them and go with it.
Speaker 2: Also, you could pick a time that is your cutoff.
Speaker 2: So during the week, I'm not going to drink after
Speaker 2: eight pm, or during the weekends, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: drink after ten pm. And while i may still be out,
Speaker 2: I'll just switch to club soda. And if you may
Speaker 2: that specific rule for yourself, you're more likely to follow it,
Speaker 2: So be specific. You also can set a drink maximum
Speaker 2: for the week, like I'm not going to go over
Speaker 2: ten drinks this week, whatever it is. And then and Andrew,
Speaker 2: you said you were doing this in between drinks, and
Speaker 2: I've done this in the past. Don't just get a
Speaker 2: second round. It's so easy to say I'll take another instead,
Speaker 2: skip a beat, have a full glass of water in
Speaker 2: between your drinks, and that will also set you up
Speaker 2: for success and not drinking more than you wanted to
Speaker 2: or more than you should.
Speaker 1: And they do say, folks that about seventy percent of
Speaker 1: folks who do a dry January do in fact end
Speaker 1: up drinking less for the rest of the year. They
Speaker 1: actually do make changes and reduce their alcohol intake. So
Speaker 1: if you're doing it now and you make it through
Speaker 1: the month of January, chances are you're going to be
Speaker 1: better off, all right, And.
Speaker 2: Let us know how you're doing. We love to hear
Speaker 2: feedback on our Instagram podcast page, Amy and TJ. We'd
Speaker 2: love to hear from you how you're doing what your doing,
Speaker 2: And it's good to know you're not alone. It's good
Speaker 2: to know there are other people doing it with you.
Speaker 2: There is something about that safety and numbers. So cheers
Speaker 2: to all of your efforts in just improving your health
Speaker 2: in any and every.
Speaker 3: Way you can.
Speaker 1: And be kind to yourself. It's okay. If you've already
Speaker 1: slipped this month, it's okay. You can start up again,
Speaker 1: but don't be too hard to yourself. Be a little
Speaker 1: kind to yourself about it. You're trying at least, and
Speaker 1: that's okay. So enjoy the rest of the month. Happy
Speaker 1: health to you all. But for now, Amy and TJ,
Speaker 1: here cheers is what you said.
Speaker 3: Cheers Cheers to the new year