WEBVTT - Drive Time: Kyle Crabbs Dolphins Draft and Offseason Special

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<v Speaker 1>To our Removedlin Deep Speedlins past.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Health

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<v Speaker 2>Training Complex. This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's my

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<v Speaker 2>hav hands in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>What is up Dolphins?

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Wingfield. And on today's show we're gonna welcome in

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<v Speaker 3>the great Kyle Krabs talk about the draft, the Senior Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins off season. Just a comprehensive chat with a

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<v Speaker 3>good friend of mine about this Miami Dolphins team and

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<v Speaker 3>off season from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist

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<v Speaker 3>Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 4>This is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Draft Time Podcasts, gaff. Let's get right to it today.

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<v Speaker 3>My guest Kyle Crabs joining me once again, is good

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<v Speaker 3>friend of the show show and really the perfect Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>draft guess you guys know who he is from. Locked

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<v Speaker 3>on NFL scouting and locked on Dolphins. What an intersection

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<v Speaker 3>for our purposes today, Kyle Crabs, Kyle, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Budy?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Travis, happy off season to you. I know it's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>we wish we were still playing a game this weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's a really fun season and excited for the

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<v Speaker 4>off season ahead for Miami to hopefully push some right

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<v Speaker 4>buttons and play a few more games next year.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you and probably nobody else wants to hear this,

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<v Speaker 3>but the weather on Championship Sunday here it was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't I couldn't stop thinking about how nice it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been, how yes in our building too, and

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<v Speaker 3>how nervous I would be.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, it's the weather this time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's man, there's a reason that everybody from Montreal comes

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<v Speaker 3>down here to play golf this time of years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to start here on the episode though, Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>with a hypothetical here because little peak behind the curtain.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle and I, if you can't tell we are friends,

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<v Speaker 1>are we friends? We're friends?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think that's fair to say. I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you go a joke there and then say no, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We text So when I see a prospect that I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll typically text Kyle hey thoughts on you know, position

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<v Speaker 3>player school? And I text him after watching the one

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<v Speaker 3>on one drills and mobile and said, hey, what are

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<v Speaker 3>your thoughts on Texas offensive tackle Christian Jones? And Kyle says,

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had a chance to watch him. Yet a reason

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<v Speaker 3>I like Kyle's opinion is because he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>player he hasn't seen yet and just tell me thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>for the sake of having thoughts. So I get excited

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<v Speaker 3>to start sending Kyle some deets about this player. When

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<v Speaker 3>I google Christian Jones, I get a hit that lays

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<v Speaker 3>out his personal info and it tells me he's a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two year old player. Now I knew he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on the older side because he was

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<v Speaker 3>a sixty year senior at Texas. I heard that on

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<v Speaker 3>the broadcast. But what I didn't know is that there's

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<v Speaker 3>another Christian Jones in the NFL who is thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>years old. So I'm going through this process of telling

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle this is a guy with sweet feet, former soccer players,

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<v Speaker 3>some good reps and one on ones where he, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't let his chest plate get exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, this guy looks like a Day two

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<v Speaker 1>pick at worst.

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<v Speaker 3>But then we have a collective laugh when I tell him, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>of course he's thirty two years old. Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and call me priority undrafted free agents. So Kyle, the question,

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<v Speaker 3>after all that nonsense is how good would a player

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<v Speaker 3>have to be for you to draft him if he

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<v Speaker 3>was thirty two years old, or would you not? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of those specialists can go into their forties.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, So indeed, long snapper, I don't know about a

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<v Speaker 4>day two pick on anybody at thirty two. We saw

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<v Speaker 4>was the Baylor guard like ten years ago for Philly

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<v Speaker 4>when he was twenty six, and it was like the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest deal ever. So you to be thirty two, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>have to really be a man amongst boys at the

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<v Speaker 4>college level. Unintended there because obviously you would be a

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<v Speaker 4>man amongst boys if you're thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Pick Brandon Whedon was twenty eight, right, and you got

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<v Speaker 3>drafted yep, twenty six guard and that's it. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>for a quarterback, it's you know, you hope that you

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<v Speaker 3>could get a ten year career over at that point.

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<v Speaker 3>But either way, we are far into the We just

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and get into this episode specifically a focus

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<v Speaker 3>on the Senior Bowl and the draft, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>have a couple of additional topics we'll talk about at

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<v Speaker 3>the very end of the show. So having digested the

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<v Speaker 3>practices of mobile and by the way, real quick How

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<v Speaker 3>great is it that they actually broadcast the practice as

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<v Speaker 3>a game, because the last few years, I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>usually down there, so you probably didn't know this, but

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<v Speaker 3>they would have like half of it on ANFL network,

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<v Speaker 3>half of it on ESPN, and you wouldn't even get

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<v Speaker 3>the full practice. But they're back to the old school

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<v Speaker 3>way where the entire two hours of either practice is

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<v Speaker 3>broadcast for the entire day, all the one on ones,

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<v Speaker 3>all that great stuff, plus the tape after the fact. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>after all that, put on your all thirty two scouting

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<v Speaker 3>hat and educate the drive time listeners when you go

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<v Speaker 3>to evaluate. Give the breakdown and value between practices Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>and the actual game on Saturday itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that the game is a great measure

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<v Speaker 1>of like.

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<v Speaker 4>Competitiveness, competitive toughness. It's an all star event, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>an X ambition game. But the guys that go out

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<v Speaker 4>there and really look to make a positive impact, like

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<v Speaker 4>Chili Smith Wade making a diving interception and running that

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<v Speaker 4>thing all the way back should have been a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>It's neither here nor there on that play. In particular,

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<v Speaker 4>those kinds of plays stand out at the game versus

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<v Speaker 4>practice is like this great equalizer of I get to

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<v Speaker 4>see an FCS running back going against an SEC linebacker

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<v Speaker 4>in one on one drills, whether that's pass protection or

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<v Speaker 4>running routes and those kinds of great equalizers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only setting.

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<v Speaker 4>The All Star games are the only setting in the

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<v Speaker 4>pre draft process where you're doing actual football drills activities,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're doing it with contact, and you're doing it

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<v Speaker 4>on a completely level playing field. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 4>watch the tape, an FCS running back running for four

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds awesome, but it's a little difficult to gauge the

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<v Speaker 4>value of those reps because he's playing against other FCS

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<v Speaker 4>players versus the Senior Bowl. That setting is such an

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<v Speaker 4>awesome way to kind of have a blanket statement, like, look,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's at the same place at the same time, with

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<v Speaker 4>the same coaching going against each other, and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>measurative one for one in the value of those football

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<v Speaker 4>specific reps that you just don't get anywhere else in

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<v Speaker 4>the pre direct process. Do you feel like scouts versus coaches,

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<v Speaker 4>because we always like scouts and coaches have different preferences

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<v Speaker 4>and players, right like a scout sees the high weight, speed, combination,

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<v Speaker 4>a coach says, this guy can process.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I want a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>dichotomy there between the two.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the coaches and scouts kind of differ on that

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<v Speaker 3>because for me, like watching the one on one drills, like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that guy's got like he's got flexible ankles, he's got

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<v Speaker 3>oily hips, right, I can see the way he can

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<v Speaker 3>move in those drills.

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<v Speaker 1>Is their difference there?

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<v Speaker 4>I think, especially at something like the Senior Bowl, you

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<v Speaker 4>do get the same thing at the combine, but the

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<v Speaker 4>meeting time, I think the assistance, especially now that they've

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<v Speaker 4>changed the way they do the coaching staffs, you have

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<v Speaker 4>kind of this mishmash potpourrie of assisting coaches at all

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<v Speaker 4>different teams pooling together to do the coaching staffs respectively.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's where you probably get that element

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<v Speaker 4>of it is individual position coaches for teams getting to

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<v Speaker 4>work hands on with those guys, and even beyond just like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh his processing speed, but oh he responded to how

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<v Speaker 4>I communicated this well is kind of one of the

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<v Speaker 4>inside tracks. And in the past it's been well, two

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<v Speaker 4>NFL teams have their whole staffs down here.

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<v Speaker 1>And coach the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you get much more representation for all the teams

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<v Speaker 4>across the league, and I think that's helpful for every

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<v Speaker 4>coaching staff to be able to take something out of

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<v Speaker 4>this experience too.

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<v Speaker 3>How about when you kind of step back and look

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<v Speaker 3>at the Senior Bowl week versus the tape, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think you know, the draft starts and mobile, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's typically where I kind of start to dive in after,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, covering the team all year long, it's tough

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<v Speaker 3>to really get into the scouting side outside of our

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<v Speaker 3>great Friday shows we do taking a look at each

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<v Speaker 3>weekend in college football. But how about the way you

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<v Speaker 3>measure the tape versus what you see at Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it more of like a reminder like, Oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy I didn't know about him, but I like what

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<v Speaker 3>he did here, so I'm gonna go back and watch

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<v Speaker 3>his tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it more confirming? How do you balance those

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<v Speaker 1>two things?

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the time you're hoping to get a

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<v Speaker 4>confirmation on what you thought you saw. I think again,

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<v Speaker 4>the environment being one that puts guys in different roles

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<v Speaker 4>and does things more that extend beyond what they were

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<v Speaker 4>asked to do.

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<v Speaker 1>For their respective team.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where players can really move the needle is if

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<v Speaker 4>I play in a certain kind of offense and we're

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<v Speaker 4>stylistically going to play one kind of way, but teams

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<v Speaker 4>are evaluating me to fill different roles for their respective offenses.

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<v Speaker 4>At the NFL level, I can show more diversity in

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm capable of doing. It's that age old question

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<v Speaker 4>of what can he do versus what was he asked

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<v Speaker 4>to do? And I think that's where the more times

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<v Speaker 4>you get the confirmation on the tape with the senior

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<v Speaker 4>role practice, you say, Okay, great, I got a really

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<v Speaker 4>good idea of who this guy is. But the guys

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<v Speaker 4>who you walk away with and you're like, wow, he's

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<v Speaker 4>he might be more substantive than what I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>was in his respective offense. I think that's the one

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<v Speaker 4>you circle back to and rewatch the tape and really

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<v Speaker 4>look at the tape through a different lance.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think about Justin Herbert when those conversations come up,

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<v Speaker 3>because of how limited that Oregon offense was in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of catch rock throw to the perimeter. Let's get the

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<v Speaker 3>screen game going extension of the running game, and they

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<v Speaker 3>run the ball thirty five times a game, as well

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<v Speaker 3>on top of that, and not many of the whole

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<v Speaker 3>shots that he's capable of as a pro obviously that

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<v Speaker 3>you see there. But I am curious because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in scouting, like you know, I know everyone on twitter's

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<v Speaker 3>a scout a scout now, but like it's they can

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<v Speaker 3>see it a touchdown, but like that's a good play.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that player because it's a good play.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are you know, certain elements of the game,

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<v Speaker 3>certain nuances, movements of guys that do you know, particular things,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, I can see that translating, even though

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's not where it is today where it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be, but I can see that being a useful

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<v Speaker 3>tool as a professional down the line. What's the process

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<v Speaker 3>of like projecting from talent you see at the college level,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, Austin Jackson Frands is a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>was super young when he got drafted, right, and it

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<v Speaker 3>took him till his third year to really break out

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<v Speaker 3>or was fourth year to have a breakout like dominant, go,

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<v Speaker 3>get go, extend that guy type of season, Like I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>use Austin as your platform if you don't mind about

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<v Speaker 3>projecting and how you can see a prospect at age

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<v Speaker 3>twenty out of the draft, and maybe that's not where

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<v Speaker 3>you think he'll be at twenty four. How do scouts

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<v Speaker 3>look at that in terms of how they think a

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<v Speaker 3>guy will grow and develop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think there's different conversations that teams and reps

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<v Speaker 4>have for every player, and it's the year one forecast

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<v Speaker 4>and then typically the three year forecast. But by the

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<v Speaker 4>end of that rookie contract, what is your expectation? And

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<v Speaker 4>offensive lineman's kind of a unique game in general, because

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<v Speaker 4>the rare ones will step on the field right away

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll be a net positive impact and really be

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<v Speaker 4>a needle moving player. You think about Tris and Worf's

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<v Speaker 4>coming out of Iowa and how good he was right

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<v Speaker 4>away for Tampa Bay. But it's not outside the norms

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<v Speaker 4>that I would say. It's actually more commonplace that offensive

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<v Speaker 4>linemen have a trajectory that is more.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Austin Jackson's.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about Titus Howard, you know, as a HBCU kid

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<v Speaker 4>from Alabama State getting drafted in the first round by

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<v Speaker 4>the Texans, and he has become a quality starting offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was all over the board when he first

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<v Speaker 4>got into the league and Austin being as young and

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<v Speaker 4>as raw as he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's another case study of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that people a lot smarter than I

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<v Speaker 4>have have done some research on developmental curve, specifically for

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<v Speaker 4>offensive linemen, and kind of the general consensus is you

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<v Speaker 4>don't see what that player is capable of being, more

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<v Speaker 4>often than not until the end of that rookie contract,

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<v Speaker 4>so that three year conversation. So sometimes you're gonna pick

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<v Speaker 4>a guy in the first round because he you really

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<v Speaker 4>like the forecast. I think you can maybe have a

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<v Speaker 4>specialized or specific role for you early on, but you

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<v Speaker 4>know you're not going to see the full player until

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<v Speaker 4>after a few seasons. And I think just with social

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<v Speaker 4>media and everything nowadays, the expectations everybody's going to come

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<v Speaker 4>in and boom, they're going to hit the ground run

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<v Speaker 4>in both feet right away. But we'll draft and develop

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<v Speaker 4>is a mantra, and for a lot of teams that

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<v Speaker 4>means it's a long term investment and as long as

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<v Speaker 4>you have the stability in your front office to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>give it a few years and then ask yourself revisit

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<v Speaker 4>that question of what that player brings to.

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<v Speaker 3>The table, because all thirty two fan bases. When they

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<v Speaker 3>like they make their first two picks, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>right tackle and defensive end, those two needs are filled

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<v Speaker 3>for the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>They're solved.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We already have it figured out. Those guys are hits.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to be immediate players right away. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to close the first segment here. And by the way, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 3>we we kind of opined about whether we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do a full show here. We're going to go full

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<v Speaker 3>three segments here. We're already into it. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>ask you, because you and I text about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>about players that could really by taking that Austin Jackson's

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<v Speaker 3>step would really benefit the Miami Dolphins from a financial standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>from a roster fit standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get your take on some of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys and who they might be this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you and I have talked about Eric Azuokama,

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<v Speaker 3>a player where we're both big fans of his skill

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<v Speaker 3>set and what he offers, and him going down last

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<v Speaker 3>year I thought was was a detriment to that progress

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<v Speaker 3>because we saw him kind of developing a niche role

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<v Speaker 3>in the offense. I'm sure that would have grown and

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<v Speaker 3>developed from there. But I just want to get your

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<v Speaker 3>take on some guys that you think are in that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of eric as Zukomma mool. Those guys we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>really seen produce, but they're young and could be forgotten

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<v Speaker 3>out by the fan base because of what you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about microwave society.

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<v Speaker 1>Come out and produce right away or we forget about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are some guys do you think fit that mold

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<v Speaker 3>that could have I don't want to say breakout years,

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<v Speaker 3>but be contributing players in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, and through that same Austin Jackson Lenz. His

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<v Speaker 4>first two seasons he played a lot and it was inconsistent,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he gets hurt and really like one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>snaps his third year and we came in the last season,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody written him off. I know one guy that a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people have written off is Channington linebacker, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's a player who when you drafted Channington Doll, I

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<v Speaker 4>think you reflect on the role that he had and

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<v Speaker 4>he only played like five hundred snaps that last year

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<v Speaker 4>at Georgia, so he didn't get a lot of playing time.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a three year conversation. Well, you're coming into

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<v Speaker 1>year three.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you've changed schemes from the Josh Boyer scheme to

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<v Speaker 4>the Vic Fangio scheme, and obviously now Anthony Weaver coming in,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll get a better idea as time passes by

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<v Speaker 4>on what this scheme specifically is going to look like.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's a player for me that kind of has

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<v Speaker 4>the same vibe as Austin, where everybody's just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>pushed him out of their frame of mind as being

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that can be a viable contribute to this team.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's big, he can run, and as he sees

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<v Speaker 4>more of the game, I think he is going to

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<v Speaker 4>have an opportunity to be a player, And if he is,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be really helpful for the

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<v Speaker 4>Dolphins because they have Jerome Baker and David Long, and

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<v Speaker 4>both of those guys are currently scheduled to be expiring

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<v Speaker 4>contracts after twenty twenty four. So like getting him in

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<v Speaker 4>the fray and seeing what you have there this season

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<v Speaker 4>would be a big boom for Miami, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>they will find some ways to try to get him

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<v Speaker 4>on the field this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that answer. His tape was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>They talk about explosiveness and co collision, the way he

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<v Speaker 3>ran through guys, and the way he could cover and

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<v Speaker 3>do some things as a blitzer. I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense that he's a guy that you could

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<v Speaker 3>kind of come back to an OTA's and training camp

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<v Speaker 3>and say, like, let's put a star on that guy,

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<v Speaker 3>make sure a Washington forty one, because he's an important

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<v Speaker 3>player right here for this team. Eric is who comments

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<v Speaker 3>my pick for that, It kind of already spoiled that.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a good That's a twenty twenty two draft

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<v Speaker 3>class right there. I forgot my years there for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that would be if both those guys pan

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<v Speaker 3>out and then we know what Devon ah Cham looks

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<v Speaker 3>like in camp Smith, I think we have high expectations there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that would be a really nice way to

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<v Speaker 3>get your kind of you know, rookie contract funnel backwork.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, let's go ahead and take our first break

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<v Speaker 3>right there, come back on the other side and talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the Senior Bowl and the draft and the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>all that next year. Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 3>my guest today, the Great Kyle Krabs, brought to you

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<v Speaker 3>by Auto Nation. Segment two with my good buddy here

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Krabs talking all things Dolphins draft and really just

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<v Speaker 3>Miami Dolphins football in general. With all that first segment

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<v Speaker 3>that was not necessarily Dolphins specific, some of it was

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<v Speaker 3>let's go ahead and put that Dolphins hat right back on,

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<v Speaker 3>take your scouting hat off, put your Dolphins hat back on.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's kind of a crossover there.

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<v Speaker 3>But my question to you is, going back to the

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<v Speaker 3>Senior Bowl, who do you think helped themselves the most

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<v Speaker 3>down in Mobile that you think would be a good

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<v Speaker 3>fit for the Dolphins. Very Dolphins hyper specific here in

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<v Speaker 3>this question.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, I think there's a player, maybe not generally

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<v Speaker 4>perceived to be one of the top positions of need,

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<v Speaker 4>but the Dolphins have some injuries with their defensive end group,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think Darius Robinson from Missouri had an outstanding week.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's a guy who was a multi year starter,

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<v Speaker 4>but really the light bulb came on this year. He

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<v Speaker 4>had eight and a half sacks. He only had one

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<v Speaker 4>game after September sixteenth that he didn't have at least

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<v Speaker 4>half a sack. Ind for the final eight games of

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<v Speaker 4>the season, like he finished red hot two hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>eighty five pounds. There's some ability to play down inside,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some ability to line up on the outside and

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<v Speaker 4>win with.

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<v Speaker 1>Speed and convert speed to power.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's long, and he's got a prototypical build, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's a player for Miami that I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>could really make some sense when you look at the

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<v Speaker 4>body type that they have collectively gone after with their

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<v Speaker 4>edge guys, these big body guys like Chubb and Phillips

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<v Speaker 4>and even Agba is a holdover from the previous regime.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously he's under contract.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see if he gets another opportunity to be with

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<v Speaker 4>the team in twenty twenty four or not. But Robinson,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, really flashed in a big way for his versatility.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's an exciting player. And then another player

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<v Speaker 4>who again it's I don't know how much big of

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<v Speaker 4>a pressing need it is, but I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>really good stylistic fit for his style of play, especially

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<v Speaker 4>what he showed it was what he was asked to

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<v Speaker 4>do in college versus what he showed he could do

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<v Speaker 4>down Senior Bowl. Quinya Mitchell corner from Toledo didn't press

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<v Speaker 4>a whole lot on tape, pressed a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>the Senior Bowl. He got real physical with dudes. He

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<v Speaker 4>can run fourth like he can fly. He can run

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<v Speaker 4>four to three. He's really physical. He's got awesome ball skills.

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<v Speaker 4>So those are a couple guys on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 4>of the ball who you know, we've seen this team

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<v Speaker 4>kind of at times four go pure need and gravitate

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<v Speaker 4>towards those spots with what they've drafted with this regime.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think those are two players that had outstanding

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<v Speaker 4>weeks that would make a ton of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I try to make it a point on the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast every year this time of year when we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about draft and team need, and I always explained to

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<v Speaker 3>the audience that, like when you draft for need, you're

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<v Speaker 3>drafting for one season because, as we know, needs shift

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<v Speaker 3>and change in the NFL every single year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was having a conversation with the coworker

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<v Speaker 3>the other day about how has a player ever had

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<v Speaker 3>the same season twice? Like they no year is ever

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<v Speaker 3>the same, and so your opinion, your stock of a

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<v Speaker 3>player goes up and down given you know what they

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<v Speaker 3>put on tape that year, and so how do you

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<v Speaker 3>value that? Because like I watching him play. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 3>you if he was the pick, I'd be like, that

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<v Speaker 3>guy looks awesome. That looks like a stud at a

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<v Speaker 3>premium position for a long time. But the pushback you

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<v Speaker 3>get from fans probably is with the drafted camp Smith

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<v Speaker 3>last year. They already have Jalen Ramsey. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens with like Xavian Howard in the future and cater

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<v Speaker 3>Coho's here. We don't need cornerbacks, Travis. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>like getting good football players, Kyle. I didn't forget the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty season. There's no such thing as too many

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<v Speaker 3>or twenty twenty two season. There's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 3>do any good corners first pality.

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<v Speaker 4>Second of all, I think when you draft for need,

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<v Speaker 4>that's when you really put yourself in a dangerous spot

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<v Speaker 4>because you're you're not taking full inventory on the talent

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<v Speaker 4>that's available, and instead you're putting yourself in a box

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<v Speaker 4>for what is okay to draft. And I think specifically

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<v Speaker 4>with kind of the build out that we're expecting for

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<v Speaker 4>this year's team, there's gonna be so players that are

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<v Speaker 4>on one year contracts that the team is going to

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<v Speaker 4>sign in free agency in March. There's probably going to

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<v Speaker 4>be another wave of free agency for this team in

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<v Speaker 4>June and July. After free agency and after post June

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<v Speaker 4>first money clears for a salary cap perspective, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>always a rush to kind of you get through the

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<v Speaker 4>first or the second day of the draft and you

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<v Speaker 4>look at your team and you're like, Oh, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have this and they don't have that. But there's reasonably

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<v Speaker 4>starting caliber players that are on the market through to

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<v Speaker 4>the start of training camp on an annual basis, depending

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<v Speaker 4>on what some of their spots are. So I'm much

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<v Speaker 4>more of a proponent of if you identify premier players

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 4>or top end players, you're going to have a really

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<v Speaker 4>hard time going wrong drafting the best player available. I

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<v Speaker 4>know it always feels great when there's an intersection between

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<v Speaker 4>best player available and your positions of need. And a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of times, if you have ties, you can go

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<v Speaker 4>tie to the need because you feel like that la

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<v Speaker 4>has an easier path to get on the field for

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<v Speaker 4>you early on. But to just say, oh, well, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to draft X, Y or Z because we don't

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<v Speaker 4>have what we feel as a starter there right now

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<v Speaker 4>on our roster. In April, you don't play games until

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<v Speaker 4>September for keeps, So like you, you've got time to

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<v Speaker 4>turn over other stones or sign of the free agents

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<v Speaker 4>or facilitated trade during the preseason. There's all kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>different ways. So I'm very much pro team draft, best

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<v Speaker 4>players available as much as you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that and perfect synchronicity here. And I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and jump a couple of questions here because this

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<v Speaker 3>I think matches up what we just talked about there

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<v Speaker 3>the dichotomy of building on a weakness versus strengthening a strength.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not even to say that you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>positions we're talking about are those things. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's a disconnect when it comes to you know, fans

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<v Speaker 3>or armchair gms, which is again it's it's what makes

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<v Speaker 3>the league so much fun these days, but also kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you and I bitch about it on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>Is because everyone's so involved and everyone does have an opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>and that helps the league grow and become what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also you know, one hundred mock drafts every

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<v Speaker 3>winter and spring, like guys are firing these things off

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<v Speaker 3>saying that's what you gotta do, that you always look

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<v Speaker 3>for the biggest needs. I think that sometimes the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing that you can do is get better at what

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<v Speaker 3>you're already good at. I'm curious how you think teams

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<v Speaker 3>do that balance when let's set you go into a draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say, for instance, you have an offensive line that

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<v Speaker 3>needs help. You have a receiver group that's very good

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<v Speaker 3>but could use some more help as well. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a strength versus a weakness, Like is

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<v Speaker 3>that a tiebreaker scenario? How do you balance whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not it's more beneficial to get even better at what

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<v Speaker 3>you're good at versus getting a little bit better at

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<v Speaker 3>something you're not good at.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think there's probably a conversation about what your

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<v Speaker 4>menu looks like and what the players on your strength,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever your strength is, allows you to do. And as

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<v Speaker 4>long as you can get tangible better results by doubling

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<v Speaker 4>down on the strength and say, look, here's our core identity,

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<v Speaker 4>this is how we're going to build a team, this

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<v Speaker 4>is how we're gonna choose to compete. It gets really

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to reach kind of the diminishing returns that no

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<v Speaker 4>longer make it worth it to continue to bet on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think there is a point where you have

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<v Speaker 4>to play late season games, or you have to play

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<v Speaker 4>in cold weather environments for example, and certain styles of

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<v Speaker 4>play translate better than others. So you do have to

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<v Speaker 4>have like a certain operating floor in my mind for

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<v Speaker 4>all of the different ways that you would attack offense

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<v Speaker 4>or defense, and make sure that your floor gives you

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<v Speaker 4>a broad enough menu where we can just roll into

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<v Speaker 4>any given matchup and have an honest conversation about here's

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<v Speaker 4>what they're good at, here's what we want to try

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<v Speaker 4>to attack about what they do, instead of just saying

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<v Speaker 4>we don't care what they do. This is what we're

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<v Speaker 4>good at, this is what we have to do, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's it. Because I think you do paint yourself into

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<v Speaker 4>a corner a little bit there. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to reach diminishing returns by continuing to invest

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<v Speaker 4>in your strengths, but only if your floor across.

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<v Speaker 1>The board is at a certain level.

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<v Speaker 3>I just had Sean Said from Sumer Sports on the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast talking about Anthony Weaver, and that was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>one of his sicking points was he believes that Weaver

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<v Speaker 3>is very much a attack the opponent's weaknesses and be

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<v Speaker 3>aware of their strengths and kind of be flexible and

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<v Speaker 3>versaile to the different types of offense you'll see in

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<v Speaker 3>the National Football League, and I hope that's the case,

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<v Speaker 3>because that seems to be what wins in the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>these days. I want to pivot back to the offensive

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<v Speaker 3>side though here and talk about two position groups that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought really stood out at the Senior Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 3>two groups that I think are strengths in the draft class,

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<v Speaker 3>and two groups that I think the Dolphins could use

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<v Speaker 3>some help at. They're receiver and offensive line. And I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to first put this question to you about to

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<v Speaker 3>just separate these three guys on either side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>One guy didn't go to the Senior Bowl, but I

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<v Speaker 3>put him in there because I watched his tape and

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<v Speaker 3>he looks like a lot of fun. So the receivers

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<v Speaker 3>are Lad McConkie, Roman Wilson, and Malachai Corley. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think about those three.

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<v Speaker 1>Romans? My dude, I love Roman Wilson. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>is This is not what you told me on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think Malachi Corley's probably the best intersection of

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<v Speaker 4>a difference skill set than what the Dolphins currently have

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<v Speaker 4>while also having the same strength as being a run

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<v Speaker 4>after catch player. But if you just ask me, which

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<v Speaker 4>is my favorite player out of the group, Roman Wilson

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<v Speaker 4>is tough as nails. He can fly, he can run

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<v Speaker 4>in the high four threes to four fours. I wish

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<v Speaker 4>he was just a little bigger, but like he plays

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<v Speaker 4>like he's got that dog in him. He's got super

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<v Speaker 4>plucky hands. I think he can win in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the field. I think he can win on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he can win a little bit down the field.

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<v Speaker 4>So like he really brings a lot of diversity. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you're asking me from a Dolphins perspective, I think

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<v Speaker 4>Corey as the bigger guy, like the two hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen pound run after catch type of body. That's just

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<v Speaker 4>something when you consider Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Braxton Barrios,

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 4>River Craycraft, a lot of the Robbie chosen. A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the guys that got run this year at wide

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<v Speaker 4>receiver were leaner guys or or were guys that were

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<v Speaker 4>not bigger guys. And at some point, mass does move

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<v Speaker 4>the needle when you run so much cracked toss and

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking to have guys really contribute on the edge

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<v Speaker 4>in the run game in addition to be run after

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<v Speaker 4>catch threats. So I love Corley's run after catch physicality.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's a pretty good route runner coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of Western Kentucky. But my main crush out of those

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<v Speaker 4>three is Roman Wilson. I think I'm just head over

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<v Speaker 4>heels with the way he plays the game.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, to kind of peel back the curtain here

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. We were talking about that during the

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<v Speaker 3>Senior Bowl week and I was like, hey, he looks

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good, and you're like, ohish, he's a bit taller,

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:36.239
<v Speaker 3>but you've come around that a little bit.

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just yeah, it's a good player, right, Like, don't

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<v Speaker 4>don't put yours in the same way, don't draft for needs,

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 4>don't put yourself in a box and say, oh, well

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<v Speaker 4>we have to have a certain body type.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah know. And is the dude the ball or die

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<v Speaker 1>and the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that on Twitter. Someone's like, oh great, another

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 3>five ten receiver. I'm like, you don't want another Tyreek Hill. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take another Tyreek Hill. I'll take three of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We got two, won't take three of them. But uh yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a good position to to want to go

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<v Speaker 3>after in this year's draft, as is the offensive lines

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and short. Three guys from me here again,

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<v Speaker 3>two guys the'rera at the Senior Bowl. One guy didn't

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<v Speaker 3>play in contact roles though, That was Zach Fraser, the

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<v Speaker 3>center from West Virginia. But man Jackson Powers Johnson is

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<v Speaker 3>a monster, but also so was Is. I'm saying that's

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<v Speaker 3>right as the first time I have said this name

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 3>out loud. Cedric van Prant from Georgia. Yes, of his game,

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<v Speaker 3>those three guys look freaking awesome. Kyle, Yeah, so of

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>course van Pran I would put third out of that group.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's a little bit more of the power

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<v Speaker 3>center traditionally. Out of those three guys, I think Zach

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Frasier is still a bigger center. He's like three ten,

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 3>but he's got a wrestling background and it pops big time.

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 3>I think you see a lot of the lateral mobility

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 3>in his game and really good leverage in short spaces

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 3>where Powers Johnson I think is the blend of both,

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>where he will railroad you and he will run you

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 3>down in space. And he is perfectly comfortable as a

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and thirty pound center kind of gearing down

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 3>against linebackers and safeties in the open field, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's just a really exciting blend of what we

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 3>were accustomed to seeing from the center position the past

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 3>few years with Connor Williams as such a dynamic athletic player.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 3>But then you look at Powers Johnson and you realize

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 3>that he's three point thirty and there's just a point

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 3>eight to point b element of him that he can

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 3>uproot and man handle those tackles solo. And you know

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>that if you've got a center that can do that,

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<v Speaker 3>what does that free up your guards to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do where you can spend less time investing on

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>securing the first that the interior of the first level

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 3>of the line of scrimmage. So I think that's where

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Powers Johnson really separates himself from the rest of the

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>centers in this year's class.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>In my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's maybe my favorite prospect right now in the draft.

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 3>We'll see how that changes over thoset couple of months here,

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, good stuff there, man. We're gonna go ahead

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 3>and take our last break right here, come back on

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>the other side and do the third and final second,

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<v Speaker 3>which has just a random array of questions here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's next.

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<v Speaker 3>My guess is the great Kyle Krabs from Lockdown Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 3>I am your host, Travis Wingfield. Draft Time Podcast brought

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>to you by Auto Nation, finishing up here with Kyle Krabs,

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<v Speaker 3>my guest today on the Draft Time Podcast on Friday

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 3>before the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle, you got in the game on Sunday. I got

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Kansas City to beat them in. You gotta beat them in.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 4>And I will not be making the same mistakes as

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>the sports books and fading Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game.

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I just won't do it.

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be like me and try to

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 3>go oh for four. I'm picking Chiefs games in the

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 3>playoffs this year. I will kindly pass on trying to

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>go oh for four. So I'm picking the Chiefs. When

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I was mad about the Bills game in Week eighteen,

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.479
<v Speaker 3>I think I told you it's gonna be twenty four

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>to three on Sunday.

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna ar on Saurday night, We're gonna lose.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I was so mad, and then I through the week

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>went back and watched the matchups, like, we have a

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>chance to win this game. I ended up picking Miami,

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 3>but it was actually closer twenty four three than I

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 3>thought it would be.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's to not playing Kansas City in the first

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 4>route mixture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, let's not do that anymore on the road

0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 3>in twenty five negative twenty five degree tmperture.

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Let' let's avoid that at all costs.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's also kind of do a rapid fire bit here

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 3>to close up the episode and start with the draft

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<v Speaker 3>here and just kind of I know this is very vague, Kyle,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 3>but I'm curious about some underclass options at pick twenty

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 3>one that you think might be there, might be good

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 3>fits because we've talked about the Senior Bowl, but every

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 3>time we get to this time of year, I feel

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 3>like those prospects get a little bit forgotten about because

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 3>everyone's like, I just watched so and so Dominate Practices

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 3>and mobile. I just want to get your take on

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>some of the underclassmen that you think might be there

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 3>at twenty one that could be options for your Miami Dolphins.

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think a couple of offensive linemen that I'm

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 4>really excited about to lease. Fuaga from Oregon State is

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 4>one who some people are projecting inside a guard. This

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 4>is another three hundred and thirty pound offensive lineman. So

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 4>is there a long term tackle play with Tron Armstead,

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.719
<v Speaker 4>But you can draft him and get him into your

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 4>starting five right off the jump. He's a junior who

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 4>declared for this class, so that's the first name that

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 4>really jumps out to me. I think Johnny Newton, the

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 4>defensive lineman from Illinois, is a red shirt junior, so

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 4>I guess technically is a fourth year player. But that's

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 4>somebody who, depending on what the Dolphins choose to do

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 4>with their into your defensive line. He's got really good

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 4>center gravity. I could potentially see depending on if there

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 4>is a corner and offensive tackle or slash offensive line run.

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 4>With the wide receivers and quarterbacks you're expecting to go

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 4>in the top ten, I could see him kind of

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>getting into that stratosphere. I would be remiss to not

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 4>acknowledge the existence of rock Bauers just because tight ends

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 4>from a positional value. It's kind of the great mystery

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 4>bag if they're going to get drafted early or not.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>For every TJ.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Hockinson that goes in the top ten, there's really good

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 4>tight end prospects other years that end up slipping and falling.

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's a home run versatility add to

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 4>this offense as well, if he's there or if he

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 4>gets close and you wanted to jump up and make

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 4>a move to go get a guy like that. So

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 4>there's no shortage of options for players that I'm gonna

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 4>like be underclassmenner Otherwise at twenty one, I'm glad you.

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Touched on mostly offensive players in that portion there, because

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious what you think about this defense. And obviously

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 3>we have a new I guess prism or a new

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 3>lens to look through here with regards to a different

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinator, and like going back to the Texans in

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, it's really tough for me, Kyle to kind

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>of glean what it might look like as far as

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 3>what Anthony Risky might be because I feel like the.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Game has evolved a lot in those four years.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>But also that personnel that he worked with just was

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 3>not very good, and so I don't really hold it

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 3>against him. But let's go ahead and do this question first,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 3>actually before I get into the draft. What do you

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>think that we might see from coach Weaver's defense? I

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>talked about on Wednesday podcast, but I want to hear

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>your take. What do you think it might look like.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 3>And what are you most excited about for coach Weaver.

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you hear JJ Watt talk about him

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 4>and talk about the aggressiveness, and that's something for me

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 4>that I get really excited about.

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, this year's past defense.

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Was pretty vanilla pre snap and they like to throw

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 4>some simulated pressures at you and rush for But where

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 4>the four coming from is kind of the big mystery,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 4>and I really liked what they were able to do

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 4>down the stretch. I guess that was kind of the

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 4>silver lining with the injuries that they the team was

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 4>experiencing defensively, is the blitz rate came up. And I

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 4>really liked what they were able to do with the

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 4>blitz rate where you got explosive, rangy linebackers that can

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 4>fire and come from a little bit of depth. And

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 4>I think if you can find that balance of aggressiveness

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 4>and try to pressure to create more mistakes instead of

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 4>scheming up four man rushes, I think you can continue

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 4>to have a lot of splash impact plays. So I

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 4>think that's the one thing for coach Weaver that hearing

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 4>that he's an aggressive mentality I get really excited about.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 3>And we talked about this. I don't know if it

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>was after the Chiefs Bills game. It was after a

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Bills game of some sort. Maybe it was our game,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember, but you and I talking about, like, look,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>the reason that we haven't won a division championship in

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years is because we can't have

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>n't beat Buffalo, right, Like it comes to onto losing

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 3>games to Buffalo in particular, that damn quarterback who always

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 3>has career days against Miami and other games. You and

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I watch him, like, why is he throwing three turnal

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>wars three picks in this game? He can't do it

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 3>against us. But that kind of coincides with that, right

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 3>because we've seen Josh Allen on that Bill's offense just

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of take what was there against us the last

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>couple of years and have success doing it that way.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you think he's a quarterback that you want to

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 3>heat up a little bit more?

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 4>I think anytime you play passive against the top shelf quarterbacks,

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 4>I think you're asking for a long day at the office.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 4>And it may be a strategy that helps keeps points

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 4>off the board because the idea is that you're going

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 4>to force them to string together double digits on the

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 4>plays and drive the length of the field and force

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 4>them not to make mistakes. But the top shelf guys,

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 4>if they can do that consistently, then they're just going

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 4>to take profits all day long. Versus if you're willing

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 4>to try to dictate terms a little bit. That's how

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 4>you could set yourself up on a short field or

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 4>multiple short fields, or steel possesions that don't kicks and

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 4>all those kinds of things that there's a pretty strong

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 4>correlation to winning football games if you do that with consistency.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 4>So I think there's a line to walk there, as

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 4>there is with most things in football. I don't think

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 4>there's a black or white answer there. But yeah, when

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 4>you're playing guys like that that are so dynamic and

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 4>can beat you in so many different ways, trying to

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 4>force the issue or dictate terms, I think is at

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 4>least a good way to go down.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Go down with the bat swinging.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 3>So you mentioned Quenyan Mitchell, Darius Robinson, a couple of

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 3>guys on defense, and it sounds like aggressiveness, but that

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>could be the mode of this defense, and if it is,

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I guess kind of go through that lens. But just

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 3>curious that you're focus on the defensive side of the ball, Like,

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>what do you think this defense needs to give to

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 3>coach Weaver from a personnel standpoint and some players you

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 3>think that might fit that in the year's draft class.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I definitely think we need more than just zax

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 4>Seler under contract at defensive tackle.

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's a good place for us to

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 3>start in this year's class. He can't nine gap now,

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 3>can't nine gap now. There's two guys for Texas. We've

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>talked about to and Andre Sweat quite a bit. I'm

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>still a huge fan of his game. Another good performer

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 3>in Mobile last week.

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 4>But Byron Murphy, the junior declaration is a dense body

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 4>who can hold a point of attack. He can penetrate,

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 4>he can take double teams in leverage. He's loaded, he's

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 4>built load of the ground. So I think that that's

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 4>another player too that if you have to go for

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 4>a big, a B gap defender who's versatile, that's another

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 4>name to kind of soft circle and he's red hot

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 4>in draft circles. Wouldn't be surprised be ends up being

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 4>a top twenty pick when it's all said and done.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 4>But That's that's the spot for me that I think

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 4>they're they're going to have to really give some attention to.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 4>If we don't see Christian Wilkins back in a Dolphins

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 4>uniform next year, it's probably two guys to fill that

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 4>spot because he plays eighty plus percent of the snaps annually, right,

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 4>like an scene amount of snaps that Christian Wilkins plays,

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 4>So asking any one guy to step into that role

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 4>I think is a little ambitious. So I'd love for

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 4>everything to work itself out and for Christian Wilkins to

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 4>be Mimi Dolphin in twenty twenty four and beyond. But

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 4>if he doesn't, I think that really just amplifies the

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 4>need for that INTI your defensive line to get a

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of attention and investment.

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the same conversation they're having right now on the

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 3>other side of the building talking about what it might

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 3>look like this offseason. So I think it's well within

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 3>your rights to have that conversation. And you know, I

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 3>like doing analogs in terms of like, well, what do

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 3>the Ravens have we might have in terms of their

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>defensive personnel. Is Tavandre sweat your Michael Pierce kind of Oh?

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 4>We were going back to Houston too, had DJ Reader

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 4>right before Reader left in free agency for Cincinnati, and

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 4>it came a beat up there too. Yeah, so that's

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 4>another name to invoke here where Anthony Weavers had a

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 4>couple of really big breakhouses in the middle and tamand Grace,

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Sweat would be really one for the Dolphins to have,

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 4>that's for sure. But that's kind of my pipe pream

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 4>right now is making sure Sweat gets ends up an

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 4>a Dolphins uniform and nose tackle.

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Nobody understands the nature of a family friendly podcast than

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Krabs a brick house, just a brick house.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Something else, just a statement there.

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 3>So this is kind of again bringing our text conversation

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 3>to life here a little bit. And this is different

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 3>than the draft in general, but something you talk about

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 3>to me a lot that I like and I want

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 3>to talk about on the podcast now, kind of general

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 3>off season and offline discussion that you and I have

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 3>had because the way it looks right now and it

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 3>changes right and Chris Greer said, we're not really worried

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 3>about our cap situation in March right now in February

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 3>because it doesn't matter. But you always tell tell me, Travis, like,

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the needs that you seem to have right now on

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 3>this Dolphins football team are the non premium positions, right.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can go spot spot rack the CAAPS,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 3>spot rack either one of those and sort average cost

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 3>by position. You'll find quarterback, edge receiver, corner, offensive tackle

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 3>the most expensive, and then running back, interior lines, either

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.320
<v Speaker 3>side of the ball, off ball, linebacker, safety, those positions

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 3>tend to cost a little bit less. You love how

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins have put themselves in position to not really

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 3>have the big need at the premium spots, right.

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they have leveraged the premium and I'm using air

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 4>quotes because it's premium positions are the ones that the

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 4>league tells you are the most important because they spend

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 4>the most amount of money there, right, And the Dolphins

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 4>have leveraged those positions really, really well. They have a

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 4>lot of cornerstones at a lot of those spots. And

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 4>what you have is if you need to sign an

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 4>into your offensive lineman, your top of market for those

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 4>players in free agency is a fraction of the cost

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>of an offensive tackle. And if you're not going to

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 4>go top of market in order to say, hey, we

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 4>are going to be fiscally responsible with what we do

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 4>in free agency this year. You get a starting caliber

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 4>player for a third of what it would cost you

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 4>for a starting caliber player at offensive tackle as just

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 4>an example.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Or safeties.

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Deshaun Elliott was a really really starter for the Dolphins

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 4>this year. You signed a one year, one point seven

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 4>million dollar contract in free agency last year. Gino Stone

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 4>was like third in the league in interceptions for the

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 4>Ravens last year, and he signed a one point seven

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 4>million dollar one year contract, And it's just you get

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 4>the exceptions. Jesse Bates signed a sixteen million dollar per

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 4>year contract to be the free safety for the Falcons.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 4>You get Tremaina Ammon signs an eighteen million dollar year

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 4>contract to be a starting linebacker for the Chicago Bears.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 4>But Jermaine Pratt and Logan Wilson are really good starters

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 4>for the Bengals and they re signed with that team

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 4>last year and they averaged like seven million dollars a

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 4>piece per What corner are you signing for seven million dollars? Like?

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 4>It just the numbers don't line up. So when you

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 4>look at where Miami, you're anticipating they're gonna need to

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 4>add some starters and you consider, hey, they might be

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 4>on a budget in March and April with the first

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 4>wave of free agency, with their initial budget and salary

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 4>cap space that they have, they're gonna be able to

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 4>find some players that make a lot of sense, and

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna fit for the team, and they're gonna be

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 4>able to afford it because they don't need the premium

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.320
<v Speaker 4>positions when they go shopping.

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>It makes me so excited.

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 3>So what the off season does look like this year,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 3>because you know, I think that's been one of the

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 3>feathers in the cap of the organization.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>The last few years.

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 3>They have had very good off seasons bringing in very,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 3>very good football players, and I cannot wait see the

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 3>plan this year and what they end up doing ultimately.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 3>You'll do this podcast a few times between now and

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.240
<v Speaker 3>the draft, Kyle, just so you know I'm booking you already.

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Any choice, just for a fun closer here on February

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 3>the seventh taping this podcast, Gun to your Head pick

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>at twenty one, who is it today? I'll go with

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Powers Johnson, Let's go baby, So I whether he

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 3>ends up playing guard or center for you, I think

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 3>there's some positional flexibility here. I do think Miami from

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 3>a expiring contracts perspective, they have to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>if they want to give Robert Hunt a contract, they

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<v Speaker 3>have to figure out that they want to give Connor

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<v Speaker 3>Williams a contract. You have vacant season, Isaiah, when was

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<v Speaker 3>your your incumbent starter at left guard before his season

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<v Speaker 3>ended with an injury and that was one year deal anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So like all three spots are up for grants right now,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's enough there and I think that is

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<v Speaker 3>the right stratosphere for that to be a best player

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<v Speaker 3>available meets team need intersection that it's a safe projection

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<v Speaker 3>right now, and I'll play it safe here in February.

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<v Speaker 3>You sure you don't want a three to two year old,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a thirty six year old. My knees still kind

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<v Speaker 3>of work. I've seen your pass set, no think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a career day coming up actually to this

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<v Speaker 3>podcast will air at my wife's elementary school, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to play some of those clips for the classes

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<v Speaker 3>that I instruct my thing, my entire presentation for so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to getting just dogged by twelve year

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<v Speaker 3>olds looking at my offensive pass sets. Kyle Krabs at

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<v Speaker 3>Grinding the Tape on Social locked and NFL Scouting Locked

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<v Speaker 3>on Dolphins. Thanks again, buddy, Thanks Trav. All Right, so

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<v Speaker 3>there he goes. Let's go ahead and go out of

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<v Speaker 3>here ourselves. Enjoy the weekend, enjoy the big game on Sunday, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll come back on Monday. Talk about that game, talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the edge group I believe, talk about new Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>linebackers coach Joe Berry, and much much more on that

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<v Speaker 3>edition of the Draft Time Podcast. In the meantime, subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, fins up, Caroline Cameron, Daddy, He's coming home.