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Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now, what's up everyone around the globe. You

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Speaker 1: are listening to the most beautiful voices as listed on

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Speaker 1: Guinness Book of World Records. That's right, it's US Stradiol

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Speaker 1: that's right. We are excited to announce our partnership with

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Speaker 1: the meditation app Gay Meditation, where we will be doing

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Speaker 1: soothing voices but for people who are soothed by gay voices. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's people that are soothed by voices that are

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. Let's just say that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: sort of it's actually sort of radical because I do

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Speaker 1: think the final step of LGBTQ plus acceptance is normalizing

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Speaker 1: gay voices. And there are many meditation apps out there,

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Speaker 1: and in none of them, will you hear someone be like,

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Speaker 1: um so yeah, basically like what Lady Gaga did and

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Speaker 1: Joanna so pretty much what that was like was like

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Speaker 1: literally like um um yeah, I think that could actually

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Speaker 1: be groundbreaking. So there I am with my pants around

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Speaker 1: my ankles and two giant guys come in. George. I

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Speaker 1: have a weird theory that I actually don't know if

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Speaker 1: I believe in at all, But hear me out, what

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Speaker 1: is it? Gay voices dying? Fuck? I have met younger

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Speaker 1: gay men who don't have gay voice, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: you would like they have like Pete boutage voice, and

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Speaker 1: in a way that's like, um, not like from trauma,

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Speaker 1: like not from one yes straight. Yeah, So obviously Pete

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Speaker 1: boutagage voice from trauma is that thing where someone calls

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Speaker 1: your land line when you're or twelve and you answer

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Speaker 1: and you're like hello, Yeah, so that's Pete. That's that's

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Speaker 1: from trauma. And I just want to say, if you're

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Speaker 1: induced Pete boodha jedge voice, I actually genuinely do not

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Speaker 1: blame you, and I stand with you at the march.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and yeah, you are valid. You are valid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you are valid. You are you yourself maybe

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Speaker 1: don't think you're valid, but I am telling you as

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Speaker 1: an elder that you are. But I will say I

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Speaker 1: have noticed. God, I wish I remember the specific example

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of. I recently met a i'll say it

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Speaker 1: a twink, someone who it was by all counts. If

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Speaker 1: you were to google dictionary dot com twink, his image

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Speaker 1: sort of high voice. I expect some upspeak. I expect

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Speaker 1: maybe a lisp, sure, maybe why not? And this man

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Speaker 1: opens his voice and he's like, oh, I'll just have

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Speaker 1: a tequila soda. And in that moment not to make

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Speaker 1: it about me, but I'm like, so where does that

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Speaker 1: leave me? Where does that leave me? Am? I left behind? Right? Am? I?

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Speaker 1: Is that the like is that the future and people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be like, oh yeah, older gays sound like this.

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Speaker 1: Do we need to do a time capsule recording where

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Speaker 1: everywhere gays that are between the ages of thirty and

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Speaker 1: seventy record their voices so that later generations can remember

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Speaker 1: what we used to sound like. I think we absolutely

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Speaker 1: should for science purposes mostly. I mean I have like

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Speaker 1: it's happened a few times where I've been like, wait,

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Speaker 1: it's so unhot to me in a way that is,

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Speaker 1: everything's all switched upside down and topsy turvy. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: of course there is something and maybe this is problematic,

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Speaker 1: but there is something. Okay, cancel culture, keyboard warriors, put

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Speaker 1: your headphones down for one second, and let me say this.

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Speaker 1: There is something hot about the discordant nature of either

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Speaker 1: with a really faggy voice. Do you agree? I fully agree,

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Speaker 1: and actually like a bear with a really queeny voice

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Speaker 1: is one of the hottest things one can be. It's

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Speaker 1: actually one of the biggest slaves of all time. When okay,

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Speaker 1: when a bear has a really like tequila soda voice,

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Speaker 1: that is often trauma induced. Yeah, well because already not

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Speaker 1: all bears, of course, but already when when you when

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong. I actually feel so on edge right

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid of bear backlash. To be completely honest, just

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Speaker 1: to be clear, our audience is fifty percent Bears, fifty

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Speaker 1: percent lesbians who went to Emerson, and we would never

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Speaker 1: deny both of those communities are the backbone of the

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Speaker 1: Stradio Lab brand, and without them we would be literally

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Speaker 1: we would be doing, you know, sort of basement shows

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Speaker 1: in Wilmington. Where's Wilmington, North Carolina? North Carolina. So, and

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Speaker 1: of course everything I'm saying is with a patina of

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Speaker 1: classic gay humor. Nothing I ever say I mean and

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Speaker 1: none of it matters. A patina A patina? Am I

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Speaker 1: using that wrong? I have no idea. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: anyone use that word in my life. Wait, hold on,

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Speaker 1: a patina. Actually patina will be a great drag name,

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Speaker 1: its color. It's like something has a patina around. It's

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Speaker 1: I could be spoken with a patina of camp. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we've done a lot. We've addressed the bear community,

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Speaker 1: we've addressed our brand and our brand goals, and we

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Speaker 1: have learned the word patina of course, And and just

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Speaker 1: to finish my thought because it was problematic, as stated,

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Speaker 1: what I was to say, it is like, okay, you're

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Speaker 1: you're a bear, a muscule, a muscle bear. You're a

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Speaker 1: muscle bear. You have worked towards having muscles and having tattoos.

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Speaker 1: What I was saying is like, oh, it's easy for

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Speaker 1: someone who doesn't have that to then look at you

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Speaker 1: these markers of masculinity. But you know what you can

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Speaker 1: do to then make them feel safe? Have a queenie voice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. It's comforting. It's comforting because you're like, You're like,

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Speaker 1: it's like no, no, no, no, no, no. Classic issue

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Speaker 1: for you. This is like when at our Life show

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Speaker 1: we were trying to decide if the concept of talking

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Speaker 1: it is so clearly straight. That's something that like people

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean the concept of vacation is gay. No our community. George, Sweetie,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was doing a muscle tattoo thing

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Speaker 1: of trying to distance myself. Yeah, that was crazy. That

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Speaker 1: was Buddha Judge trauma. That was Buddha judge trauma. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So to recap gay voice is dying. I am a

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Speaker 1: friend of all bears. Yeah, and take back everything I said.

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Speaker 1: And also maybe our only allies left our lesbians twin

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Speaker 1: to Emerson, that's true, that's true. I guess I want

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Speaker 1: to you know, maybe end our intro on a call

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Speaker 1: to action. Yes, if you have a gay voice, let

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Speaker 1: it out. Let it out loud and proud. Now more

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Speaker 1: than ever, Now, more than ever, what with everything going

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Speaker 1: on politically, both domestic and abroad. Your voice can change everything.

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Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to be a little annoying. And I

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Speaker 1: the most powerful things President Joe Biden could do is

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Speaker 1: give a State of the Union address with a gay voice. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think for sure, I think like we're on the

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Speaker 1: right track, but definitely we could regroup. I think if

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Speaker 1: you did that, we'll need this. Will say he'd be

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Speaker 1: a hero of course. Um. Vice President Harris, first of

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Speaker 1: all your mother, Yeah. Second of all, please take it away. Wow,

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Speaker 1: incredible performance. You ate no crumbs? Um? That's Biden about

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Speaker 1: Zelenski after they have the brig meeting. Yeah. And then

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Speaker 1: people on Fox News are like, well, speaker, whoever ate

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Speaker 1: him up? Um wow? Um, well should be bringing our guests. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we should bring our guests. I'm actually really

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Speaker 1: I genuinely think that radical things could happen in this

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Speaker 1: definitely bring change, certainly closer to medicare for all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at that point, it's all about respectability politics. It's like

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Speaker 1: tell you something, women in politics also try to speak

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Speaker 1: welcome Vanessa Gonzaletes. Hello, thank you for having me. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I'm so well, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me. Y'all have enlightened me so much. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want to be an Alley and you're coming out as

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Speaker 1: for you, is celebrating LGBTQ plus culture. Yes, even if

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Speaker 1: going to a desk job wearing a freshly laundered Brooks

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Speaker 1: Brothers shirt. The fact that you are living authentically and

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Speaker 1: and actually I think people would really appreciate that. I think,

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Speaker 1: the flag. Yeah, yeah, what could that color be? Well,

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Speaker 1: it could just be sort of like all the colors

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, or like a very like a

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00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: wet little girl crawling at them from the ring. Yes,

421
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Um, well, that sounds like a

422
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: business idea. I love it all right, it's patented. Great,

423
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: we own a patent just like that. So, Vanessa, I

424
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: want to sort of dive right into this topic because

425
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: it is a topic that is I have found and

426
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: maybe this is just my bubble of LGBTQ plus sized community,

427
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: but I think that I have found this to be

428
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: really in the ether recently, like many people I know

429
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: are interested, so I want to really get to the

430
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: bottom of it. So I would love to know what

431
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: your topic is and why you brought it to the table,

432
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and what you think is straight about it. Okay, my

433
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: topic is the TV show Survivor, reality TV show Survivor,

434
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I was going through my list

435
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: of things of straight things in my world and it's

436
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: it's a small list, and I wasn't even sure if

437
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: Survivor was straight because I've only seen like the more

438
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: recent seasons, and you know, I think it. You know,

439
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: there's a line. I think if you watch like the beginning,

440
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: it's very straight and then it kind of it's it's

441
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: getting a little blurred now. But it came into my

442
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: world recently because a friend was like, you gotta see it.

443
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: You got it so good and I got hooked. Yeah,

444
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: got hooked. You got hooked? What about it? Spoke to you?

445
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: It's just the drama, the drama of not watching um

446
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: it's it's mostly white people and watching them just you know, naughty,

447
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: eat and just go against each other. It's it's very riveting. Yeah.

448
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: I got into it in the pandemic as well, Like

449
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: so many people were like, you got to check it out,

450
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: And even I would say, my straight who you know,

451
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: old listeners of the pod know that I had a

452
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: straight for a while that I was obsessed with, and

453
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: he wanted me to watch Survivor and whatever he said,

454
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I would do. And so I did start watching Survivor

455
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: via his recommendation, and actually I did love it. There

456
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: was something so chaotic about it, like the way that

457
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't because I was expecting a meritocracy when I

458
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: turned on the show Survivor and I didn't realize it's

459
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: all about trickery and like being messy, which honestly sounds

460
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: a little gay to be honest. That's what I'm saying.

461
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying it's getting blurry, but that's what's

462
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: drawing to me, is like the way you have to

463
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: manipulate everyone. It's like, you're my best friend, You're gonna

464
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: tell me, right if they're gonna and they're like, absolutely,

465
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: I would tell you. And then they're like, bitch, you're

466
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: off the island. It's like and it's just very like

467
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: you've got a backstab. They're known for the blind sides,

468
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: and then also just the people that they pick to

469
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: be on there, Like it's a month you're on. I'm like,

470
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: do you have a job? Can you keep your job?

471
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: When you say I always wonder this, I need to

472
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: be out for a month, and they're not allowed to

473
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: say They're not allowed to say why they're out for

474
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: a month, So you really have to basically lie about

475
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: having a medical emergency or lie about being pregnant, Like

476
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: there's there's really no other way. Yeah. Wow, Because they're

477
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: out there for so long and it's like they're a

478
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: lot of them, I'm like, are they telling the truth?

479
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: Are these all actors? I don't know, but they get

480
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: me every time. I'm sort of fascinated by this idea

481
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: that it is. It's something that is like many things

482
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: straight on paper and gay in practice, where it's like

483
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: you hear about the premise of Survivor. It is sort

484
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: of going back to the wilderness and it is a

485
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: survival game, and you're like, wow, this is sort of

486
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: like a straight man's dream, like an emasculated straight man

487
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: is like, I'm going to be a real man and

488
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: go out into the woods and fend for myself. And

489
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, the people who are going to win

490
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: this game are like a muscly guy who is able

491
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: to like murder a deer and eat it raw. And

492
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: then when you actually get there, you're like, no, actually,

493
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: the most valuable skill is being an iconic bitch. Yeah. Yeah,

494
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: And it's like you have to be a bitch but

495
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: also be liked, and that is a hard thing to do. Yeah,

496
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: it's an amazing show. I think for me it gets straight,

497
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 1: Like the straightest part about it is more like what

498
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, like who they cast, Like, I feel like

499
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: it's very at least I watched like the early seasons,

500
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: thinking watch like season three or like season and like

501
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: season three, season eight, like people were recommending early seasons,

502
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: and so those were the ones I watched straight seasons. Yeah,

503
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of like I and before

504
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: we were talking about this, I was there were a

505
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: lot of Republican undertones where it was like like that

506
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: guy's a cop and is like like and that guy's

507
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: a cop, and that lady is like one of those

508
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: fitness people, but not in the liberal sense, you know

509
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like yeah, yeah, like the Early Seasons

510
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: is all cops that are on administrative leave. Yeah yeah,

511
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: it's like how can they take a month off work?

512
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, it's really easy, actually yeah, And

513
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: they're there and yeah, they talk about God a lot,

514
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: and they talk about their values and you're like, yeah,

515
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: who's gonna win because you have to be a shady

516
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: bit to win this? Yeah, yeah, so believing God is

517
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: your first mistake there. Well, I think it's powerful. It

518
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: is powerful and showing that, like straight people can be

519
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: shady bitches well to like almost a grander with like

520
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: less heart than a gay person. Like gay people are

521
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: almost like, oh, it's because I love you. Straight people

522
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: are like, no, it's because of money, like I want

523
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: to destroy you. Yeah, and the lies they tell, like

524
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I saw one recently, and you know they have challenges

525
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: and if you get an immunity idol, you won't be

526
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: kicked off the island. Well, this one girl was like,

527
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a fake one so that people think

528
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: I have it, and I'm like, that's awesome. Like she's

529
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: going and the acting she's doing of like yeah, and

530
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: people believed her. It's just like wild the extent they

531
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: go to, well, the acting you mentioning just like the

532
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: concept of acting, of course, begs the question is it

533
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: an exercise and long form improv? Yes, yeah, I think so.

534
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: And is that one of the straighter qualities of it perhaps, Yeah, yeah,

535
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely like watching an improv group improv

536
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: for an hour and you're just like wow, yeah. The

537
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: way that like I'm like thinking about, like okay. The

538
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: challenges are also very funny to me because they're so

539
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: like little Kid in a way, like it's like it

540
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: feels like recess in a way that is like very

541
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gay or straight, but it

542
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: is playful, which makes me think gay. Like I watched

543
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: that and I'm like I want to play You're like

544
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: it's whimsical. Yeah, it's like oh when there's like color

545
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: codes and like yeah. The argument for it being straight

546
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: to me is sort of like it is adjacent to

547
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: escape room board game night, Yeah, bowling, like you know,

548
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: mini golf, Like it's sort of like, okay, it is

549
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: people and of course painting and broad strokes. Here, it's

550
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: people who have no, no difficulties in real life that

551
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: are like, how can we like feel something for once?

552
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: I guess we'll go to the wilderness. Yeah. Yeah, because

553
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's choosing this? And then the stakes are

554
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: always so high for them of like I need this

555
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: money because I need to help my family, and I'm like, well,

556
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: you're gone for a month, You're not helping, Like, and also,

557
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: what a strange thing to choose if what you need

558
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: is money to help the family, What a strange thing

559
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: to choose is even like one of the top five

560
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: things you could do? Yeah, I like, yeah, if someone

561
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: was supporting me and they're like, hey, I'm gonna go

562
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: on this show, I got us, I feel like I

563
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: don't think you do. I think one of the ways

564
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: that it's also gay is that like it is fully

565
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: a subculture that people when they are in, they are

566
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: like all in. Like there's like little celebrity that are

567
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: just like survivor celebrities. There's a whole like it's kind

568
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: of well, I guess it's like drag race. It's like

569
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: straight drag race. Well, but it's also like The Bachelor,

570
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: which is the straightest. Like The Bachelor is like truly

571
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: the universe unto itself and people are like, oh, Amber

572
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: are I just made that up? But like it's like

573
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: everyone knows all of the people and then it's going on.

574
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: It the point of going on it is barely to

575
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: do well on the actual show, and it's more just

576
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: like now you are part of this broader community and

577
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: now you can do events, you can be an influencer,

578
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you can do ads, you can go back for like Survivor.

579
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, fan favorites versus fan non favorite stars all stars. Yeah. Yeah.

580
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: The Bachelor is so like crazy to me, like it's

581
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: very handmade's tale or the way they put women against

582
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: each other and they're in I'm like, why why is

583
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: this the most popular show on TV? It's sense. So

584
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: here's my question for the two of you, as a survivor,

585
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: as someone who literally has not seen a single second

586
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: of Survivor, what would you say are the gender dynamics? Oh,

587
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean the seasons I watched, great question. I watched

588
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: three seasons and like two winners were male and one

589
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: was female. Um, but there is like in those seasons

590
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: there is like the guys are like, we're gonna win

591
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: and there, and then they just use the women as

592
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: kind of like pawns throughout the game. Um. One I

593
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: saw recently there was they were fighting over rice because

594
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: they get like a certain amount of rice, and one

595
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: guy was like, the men should eat more because women

596
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: can survive on fourteen fourteen hundred calories and men need

597
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: thirty six hundred calories and she's like, uh no, men

598
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: love to weaponize literally a random number that they just

599
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: thought of, right, And it's just yeah, So like that,

600
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: I think the men and women women dynamic on the

601
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: Island is weird. It's weird. I would also say it's

602
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: almost like, um, it reminds me of like in video

603
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: games when like like the men are always like super

604
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: super strong types and the women are always like like

605
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: really snatched types and it's always like huh, like they

606
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: almost like, at least in the earlier seasons, like the

607
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: producers that felt like we're setting it up to be

608
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: like the men will try to compete using muscles, the

609
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: women will try to compete using their sexual whiles. Like

610
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: and they're like in their bras and underwear and I've

611
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: i haven't seen a season where they have sex, but

612
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: I've been told there's like seasons where like people are

613
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: splint off and just fucked in at night. That was

614
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna be My next question is are their hookups? I

615
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: think there's there's little couples and like there's there's been

616
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: marriages out of survivor wow. Oh it's wow. So in

617
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: that sense, it's very family of values and we and

618
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: we're all the way circling back to straight now. Yeah,

619
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: and that sense is a sort of it's a sort

620
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: of speed dating event, very high stakes. It is. It is.

621
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sure again like I don't see why anybody

622
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: would go on there, especially like I'm like, it's just

623
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: to be famous, right, I know, honestly have no idea.

624
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: I gotta say, though, that's the thing. It's like, this

625
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: is how I feel about so my youngest sisters in

626
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: med school and I'm like, I'm like, who, like med

627
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: school sounds so hard, Like who would choose to do that?

628
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, it is a self selecting group

629
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: of people for whom not doing it is it is

630
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: like death, like it's like she her life couldn't be

631
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: anything other than being a doctor. And I think that

632
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: is how Survivor people are, where they're like it is

633
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: such a such a deep rooted desire that it is

634
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: like the single best thing they will do in their lives.

635
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: And I remember I so I sort of teased this

636
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: before we started recording. But I went to college with

637
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: three separate people that have been on Survivor, and one

638
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: of them won. And his name is Adam Klein, and

639
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: he won his season and I didn't know him super well,

640
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: but I remember taking a class with him freshman year

641
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: and it was a sort of like unstructured writing class.

642
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: It was like for all for all freshmen, and you

643
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: sort of like you know, each each section was like

644
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: about a different theme or something. I can't remember what

645
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: ours was about, but there was some sort of like

646
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: student led thing where he basically had to lead a

647
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: discussion in some sense, and rather than leading a normal

648
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: by the book discussion, he made us all enact the reality,

649
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: showed the mole. No. He like he sort of like

650
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: gave and I wish I remember the details. And Adam,

651
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: if you're listening, I'm sorry if I'm butchering this, but

652
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: he like as a sort of like out of the

653
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: box set VID he like made us all do them

654
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: all and he and then he was like the host

655
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: of it and he was like welcome to them all.

656
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, this is like for you,

657
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: this is you live and breathe these like reality competition shows.

658
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: And when he was on it, it was like there

659
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: was really no sense of or from what I understand it, again,

660
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know him very well, but there was no

661
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: sense of irony or not even honestly a sense of

662
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: like doing this for the fame. It was like, this

663
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: is my calling and sure enough, like I think he won,

664
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: like so you so he knew what he was doing.

665
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: And that's I think that's all the winners like. It's

666
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: because they know the strategy. Because people go on there

667
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like, well, I that's my real friend.

668
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: And it's like you're gonna lose if you're making friends. Yeah,

669
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: you're gone, you know. But that's so hard to kind

670
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: of separate those things. I could never especially when there's

671
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: no food, I could never ever do that ever ever

672
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: ever say something another one, So, another one is Angelina Cardona.

673
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Is that a name that rings any bells for either

674
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: of you. No. She also was in a cameo in

675
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: White Lotus. So you know how Mike White did Survivor. Yes, yeah,

676
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: like the two girls in the very beginning of White

677
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Lotus that see the dead body are both Survivor alumni

678
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: that he put there as like an Easter egg, and

679
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: she's one of them. And there's this whole there's this

680
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: whole story that Megan Faye he told on Laskolle Teresa's

681
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: where like she kept overacting, Angelina kept like ball like

682
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: crying hysterically when she saw the dead body, and Mike

683
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: White had to be like Angelina, like, you don't know

684
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: this person. You're just like in shock, like you're not

685
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: you can't be like crying hysterically like you're in a cameo,

686
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: Like it's not this isn't you know, this isn't gonna

687
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: be your oscar clip. So you went to college with

688
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: her too. I went to college with her too. And

689
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: I have to say, as someone who you know, I

690
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: consider myself as far as something like student government is concerned,

691
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: I consider myself pretty cynical about it. I'm not like, oh,

692
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: this person running for student government is going to change

693
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: your But I'll tell you something. When Angelina Cardona ran

694
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: for a student body president and one by the way,

695
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: I was like passioned about voting for her, she somehow

696
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: convinced me that it would like make a difference in

697
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: my life if I voted for her for student body president,

698
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: and that is the mark of a real like career

699
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: politicians slash reality star, which were the same thing. She's

700
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. When I watched that season, the

701
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: best scene and I laughed out loud. One girl was leaving,

702
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: she was being voted off the island. They turned off

703
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: her fire and she was like, um, can I have

704
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: your jacket? And that girl just ignored her and kept

705
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: walking and was like, Natalie, Natalie, can I have your jack?

706
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: Natalie kept kept walking and ignored her, And it was

707
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: the funniest thing because she was so cold and didn't

708
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: bring her own jacket. Yeah, oh no. I mean there's

709
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: also something she sort of has, like she has a

710
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 1: really expressive face. I feel like she probably gave good quotes. Again,

711
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see her season, but you know, it really

712
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: is it really is a talent. Someone who's asked me

713
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: the other day, is there a Union for Reality Performers,

714
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know the answer. So if there is,

715
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: you know, don't correct me, but I'm like, there should be.

716
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: If there isn't, Like they have specific talents and they

717
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: are literally more famous than normal actors. Yes, that's that's real.

718
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: That's real. Yeah, because I couldn't do what they do.

719
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: I would just be laughing the whole time. If I

720
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: was on this season with Mike White, I would just

721
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: be auditioning for him every day. You'd be constantly overacting,

722
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: like don't look over there, right, I want to be

723
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: on White lotus. I feel like what I would do

724
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: is I would constantly be doing fleabag face where I

725
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: would look at the camera. I would like say something

726
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: waiting and then look at the camera and wink. Yes.

727
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I could not be around. I would

728
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: be like so jealous of the cameraman, like being able

729
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: to like go eat normal food. It would get toxic,

730
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Like I would definitely that's where my focus would be

731
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: is trying to like seduce them into giving me like

732
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: a sandwich from the craft services. Oh, I would definitely cheat,

733
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: and I would feel no way about it, Like I

734
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: would not know real seriously, no, God, no. Yeah, it's like,

735
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: why haven't you lost weight? And everyone has yes. Yeah,

736
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: it's like, well I smuggled many pieces of corn bread

737
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: and um, I was gonna do you relate more to

738
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: the like players that are evil or the ones that

739
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: are like really like good at the games or whatever. Um,

740
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: I guess the evil ones they're just funner to watch

741
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: because they're actually playing the game. Yeah, And it's like yeah,

742
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: the ones that have no idea and get swept away

743
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: and like the making friends and just being pure, it's

744
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: like boring. Yeah, it is boring. Want to watch the

745
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: evil ones? Yeah? I felt such a strong like moral

746
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: poll to be like, why isn't everyone being good? Like

747
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: I it was weird when I was watching where I

748
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: couldn't lose myself in the evil people, Like I was like,

749
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to lie about stuff like that. Like well,

750
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's like in drag Race too, like on

751
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: All Stars, when people are like, you know, following the rules,

752
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: it gets kind of boring, but when someone makes a

753
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: big move, you're like, oh, I know it sucks that

754
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: watching someone the evil is fun takes me out. Another

755
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: funny survivor culture thing is that like Sia is a

756
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: mega fan and every year, honestly, she should do it

757
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: with her giant ass wig. She literally should. I love

758
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: to say that, and she like every year gives like

759
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: a prize to the people, like to one person at

760
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: the end where she likes, like you were my favorite player, Like,

761
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: here's one hundred thousand dollars. No, she does, she does.

762
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: There's a scene same there's a bonus Sia prize if

763
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: you can, which is like literally Hunger Games, if you're

764
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: like charming enough on TV, you can still win even

765
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: if you don't win. And it's like and she gives

766
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: different amounts depending on how much she liked you, And

767
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is crazy and not to say the obvious,

768
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: but she literally is dressed like she is in Hunger

769
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: Games at all times with her giant wigs. So it

770
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: really is a bit on the nose if you ask me,

771
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: it's literally like a very wealthy pop star like comes out.

772
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: It is like, and give someone a hundred thousand dollars

773
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: for being entertaining while starving, right? Can I ask y'all

774
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: like if we were on survivor if they send us

775
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: on an island, would y'all be in an alliance with me. Oh, y'all, y'all,

776
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm sorry, but like I know you,

777
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: and you are too nice of a person like you.

778
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: You don't have the evil bitch like gean off to

779
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: go off. I can't sorry. And we have enough friends

780
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: that are literally evil that I know what a real

781
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: evil person would look like. If I was on the

782
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: island with y'all, I'd be like, I'm gonna be in

783
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: an alliance with the gays. They got my back, I'm

784
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: an alley and I would turn. But as the moment

785
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: you asked me that, I felt such a conflicted feeling

786
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 1: because I knew that literally, if we were on the island,

787
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: I would say yes and I would be your ally,

788
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: and then I would immediately lie and I would immediately

789
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: betray you in a way that because there's something about

790
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: you that like it, like feels like you would one

791
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: forgive me to not see it coming. I would, I would,

792
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: I would, And you know what, I trust the Gays

793
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: all the time, and I would be saying this on

794
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: the island every day, and y'all would be plotting against

795
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: To be completely very I also would not trust George

796
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: at all because if there were any other gay person

797
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: on that island. I would be like, no, it's one

798
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: of us. It's not gonna be both of us. No,

799
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: I hate to say it. My instinct in the in

800
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: the beginning was to say that I would befriend the

801
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: bitchiest woman. But to be honest, what I would do

802
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: is befriend the bitchiest straight man. I would go, I

803
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: would like, really just go right. I would really boot

804
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: ag edge it up and just find my Joe Biden

805
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: and have him make me a Secretary of Transportation because

806
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: I would literally say, who here's the most Republican? Who

807
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: here is the most Republican? Who's a cop? Who's a cop? Yeah?

808
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Who's a cop? Oh you're you're a cop. But you

809
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: did sensitivity training? Not interesting, sweetheart. Yeah. Also, the one

810
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I watched, there were like multiple cops on it and

811
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: they kept being like us cops costic together. I think

812
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: I would definitely lie and tell people I was a cop.

813
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: You can do that like some people like you can catfish.

814
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: It's wild, Like, yeah, there's a lot of war vets too. Wait,

815
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I love that. I mean there's no way of for

816
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: them to look up what we are. So I would

817
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: definitely catfish. Yeah, I'm trying to think what I could

818
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: with my sort of like body type voice, whatever, what

819
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: I could get away with. I don't think I get

820
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: away with saying I'm a cop necessarily, but I could

821
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: m I would be like I am an FBI agent,

822
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: and I could tell when everyone's lying. That's good, That's

823
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: what I do for no one would believe it. And

824
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: if someone was like, Okay, so who have you interviewed?

825
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: Like what what kind of FBI work do you do?

826
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: SOBI I investigated Trump, I investigated the John Benet Ramsey case,

827
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: and I'd be on the side being like, oh, so

828
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: you're liberal. Never mind. I mean it's kind of freeing,

829
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: like to be like, oh, I could go to this

830
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: island and just like be whoever I want for a month,

831
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: like I could restart, I mean until until if they

832
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: vote you off. I mean, you got to be on

833
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: guard the entire time. You gotta strategize. My thing is

834
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: like a I'm on an island, like I want to

835
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: be sun tanning, Like I want to be sun tanning.

836
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: I want to be drinking a Pina Colada. I can't

837
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: imagine being somewhere with like beautiful weather. You're wearing a

838
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: bathing suit. Honestly, all the men are shirtless. You're sort

839
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: of like, it's kind of sexy. I'm surprised there's not

840
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: more sex, to be honest. Yeah. And but like people

841
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: will vote you off if you don't do anything, like

842
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you gotta help around the island, you gotta cook rice,

843
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: you gotta make a fire. This is the thing. Okay. So,

844
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: because I've never watched Survivor, but I did when I

845
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: was young, I would always watch the real World road

846
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: rules challenges. Yeah, and to me, I'm like, those are

847
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: the gay version of Survivor because there they really do

848
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: play up the hookups. No one there has any Survivor

849
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: for little skills. In fact, all they want to do

850
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: is be in the real world house and suddenly they are,

851
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, sort of like free base jumping out of

852
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: a helicopter into like a vat of slime or whatever. Yeah,

853
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: and so I'm like that is like like Survivor. There's

854
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: almost the self seriousness of it. And I'm sure that

855
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: if I actually watched it, I would find the camp

856
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: element of it. I would find a way in. Everyone

857
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I know who loves Survivor is gay. I'm not saying

858
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: it's like only for straight people, but there is something

859
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: where you have to you have to find the queer

860
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: subtext yourself. Whereas when you watch the challenge, you're like, Okay,

861
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: everyone here is gay and wearing like a fun graphic tea.

862
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah I do. When there are gay

863
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: people on survivor gay contestants, I am always like there's

864
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: something so inside of me that's like I really hope

865
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: they win, like please, everyone be nice to them, and

866
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: it's such a crazy like I need them to succeed.

867
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: And none of the seasons I saw did they succeed.

868
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: And I actually think it was because because I think

869
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: it was because they were gay and not like they

870
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: were incapable, but because I think people were like, oh,

871
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't trust you. You're gay. Like every time there's

872
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: a gay person, a person of color, like the whites

873
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: kick them out, the straight white and it's always just

874
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: like damn it, and they're like, yeah, we didn't trust them,

875
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: and it's like whoa fuck? But you trust the cops. Wow,

876
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's very One season I saw was

877
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: literally like Battle of the Races No, and it was

878
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: like yeah, and each what I'm not kidding each boat

879
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: was like a different There were like four people of

880
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: the same race, and they all got dropped off on

881
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: the island and it was like, notice anything, that's right,

882
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: You're all paired with people of your race. And I

883
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: was like, this is crazy, and who won? Wait, that's

884
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: a great question. I don't remember. Well, I think I

885
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: can probably guess they did have a one of the challenges,

886
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: one of the real world road Roads challenges was Battle

887
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: of the Sexes, which of course is a more traditional

888
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: there's more humor to Battle of the Sexes in the

889
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: Battle of the Races, you know what I mean. You know,

890
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: there's sort of a more of a sense of whimsy,

891
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: and we are farther removed from um. Although honestly, at

892
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: this point are we further removed? Who knows? It's it's

893
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: it's difficult to say. Yeah, yeah, I mean the one

894
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 1: that your friend was on was David Versus Goliath, which

895
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: was pretty much rich versus poor, right, and it's like, well,

896
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: why are these rich people competing for many for fun?

897
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: For fun? I mean, that is crazy to me. I

898
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: know they've also done They've done young versus Old, right, Yeah,

899
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they've done young versus old. I'm trying

900
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: to think what would be the most insane gas versus

901
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: straight straight They definitely should do. That would be I

902
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: can't believe they haven't yet. That would actually be I

903
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: would I would tune in, I would have to. Yeah. Yeah,

904
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: And if if everyone was gay at the end, that

905
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: would be the biggest swin. Yeah, that would be such

906
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: an equality win. You know what they should do gay

907
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: versus straight But there was a secret straight person on

908
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: the gay team and a secret gay person on the

909
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: straight team, and that's like part of the intrigue. I

910
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: think that would actually be like really entertaining. Okay, you

911
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: need to be a producer on this. I know I've

912
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: always to be honest. One of the one of the

913
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: biggest sort of tragedies in my life is that I

914
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: know I would be way better at being like an

915
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: executive than I than I am currently at being a

916
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: writer performer. Like the way that if you would just

917
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: put me in the Paramount plus office is I would

918
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: fucking turn that ship around in a heartbeat, whereas I

919
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: can't book an audition to save my life. Wow, this

920
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: is a moment of raw honesty from George. Yeah, unbelievable.

921
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: I agree, Okay, I agree. Thanks, thanks the way I

922
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: have to know the way I just think one, you're

923
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: extremely good at what you do. Thank you. But the

924
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: way that I'm sure you could actually turn paramount plus

925
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: around and literally four emails would be very impressive to wadge.

926
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you buy a calm, you need to own it.

927
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: I might lesson. We're gonna have to trim some fat

928
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: and yeah we're gonna get some bad press for it.

929
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: But guess what, in two years, when we're winning Emmy's

930
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: a not white lotus, you'll thank me. Yeah. It's that simple.

931
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: It's that simple. I can't wait. So all of my again,

932
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: I have never seen Survivors, so all of it is.

933
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: All of it has to do with like pop culture

934
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: references outside of Survivor about Survivor. And a big thing

935
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: for me because I used to be a big, a

936
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: big watcher of the view during the Rosie o'donald era,

937
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: A big thing for me is that Elizabeth Hasselback got

938
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: famous on Survivor. That is the reason she's a celebrity.

939
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: That is the reason she is now like for over

940
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: twenty plus years, has been literally like a conservative pundit

941
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: and a media personality and like a wealthy, like best

942
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: selling author. Is because she was on Survivor. Yeah, I

943
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: had no idea and that was to me. Yeah, and

944
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: that was to me, like the first famous person I

945
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: knew of that had been on Survivor. And I think

946
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: looking back, that is one of the reasons I don't

947
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: trust it, because I was like, you were a huge

948
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: bitch on the view she was awful and they loved

949
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: her on there. Well, she's a skinny, blonde woman. She's like,

950
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure she was good at being a secret uh,

951
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, being secretly shady. I'm sure she was nice

952
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: to your face, but then talk shit behind your back. Again,

953
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: not the stereotype, of course, I love all Republican women. No,

954
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean I think she created like that archetype for

955
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: that show because ever since her they've tried to fill

956
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: in her with the same blonde girl. Yeah, she has

957
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: a sort of unique, unique figuring culture. Because I mean,

958
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: what my charges broke, I've only like almost fell backwards.

959
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: That was crazy, Okay, I'm okay, I don't know what happened,

960
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: and that's and I are sabotaging you. That was only

961
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: one person will remain at the end of this recording.

962
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, my god, this is so messed up.

963
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, George, keep going. No, I just she is

964
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: a unique figure in that even though I personally find

965
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: her morally reprehensible, and I'm sure all three of us do,

966
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: there is something palatable about her, Like you could put

967
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: her on the view and you know, people will be

968
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: entertained by her fighting with Rosie o'donald and Joy Behar honestly,

969
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: much more so than someone like Megan McCain, Like I

970
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: think people hate Megan McCain more than at the time

971
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: people hated Elizabeth Hasselback. Sure, sure, sure, yeah, And let

972
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: me tell you something, you can't recapture that magic a

973
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: second time. So in that sense, she's mother. She's mother.

974
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: I have two thoughts on Survivor, Okay. One the funniest

975
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: thing to me is when they're like starving, starving, starving,

976
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: and then they win a challenge and it's like your

977
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: treat is like this new special dish from outback steakhouses

978
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: and they give them like the dudest sponsored food of

979
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: all time, and because they're starving, they're very honestly like

980
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: obsessed with it, and like this is the best thing

981
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life. I didn't know they'd

982
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: had that. I didn't know they had prizes like that.

983
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: So some of them suddenly will eat like a nice

984
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: meal while everyone around them is eating rice. Yeah, yeah,

985
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,959
Speaker 1: you can win like a hamburger, chicken, wings, nachos. One

986
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: prize was like just chocolate cake and milk. And I'm like,

987
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: but it's like a hundred and fourteen degrees. I've been starving.

988
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna have diary out here. You're just getting yeah, milk.

989
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of them do like get wrecked

990
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: after the prize meals because their stomachs are so fun.

991
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: They're like sponsored by the dairy lobby. Got milk sweating

992
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: and then yes, sometimes they'll be like you get to

993
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: take a shower and like weird prizes in the middle.

994
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: You can have love time with a family member, love time,

995
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: love time like a conjugal visit. Well, you said with

996
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: a family member, So I was like, wait, like lovetime

997
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: like like sexy with your partner or like the oldest time.

998
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: They never specified the love time. It's just love time.

999
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: That sounds pretty queer to me. You know, whatever it

1000
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: means to you, love time, whatever, lovetime means to you. Yeah,

1001
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: lovetime sounds very sort of like a term, you know

1002
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: on polyamory Reddit. Yeah. I also think I'm pretty sure,

1003
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong. Was the very first winner gay guy?

1004
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna look this up. That would

1005
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: be great because I'm actually George talking about like the

1006
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: things that sort of culturally clicked with him about the show.

1007
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I'm pretty sure because I remember hearing

1008
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: I think he was a gay guy. I mean, being like,

1009
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, twelve or whatever, he's being like, he's gay, Folks,

1010
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: He's gay, Richard folks. Richard Hatch. Hatch was a corporate

1011
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: trainer and consultant for his own business, Triwhale Training all Right.

1012
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: When he first competed on Survivor in Borneo, which is

1013
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: a Survivor season, he came out as gay on screen

1014
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand and notoriously went nude on numerous occasions. Okay,

1015
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: see this is what I mean. This is what I

1016
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: picked up on this, and I was like, wait, what

1017
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: he's naked and he's gay. Hold on, I want to

1018
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: say I take back literally everything I have said so far.

1019
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: The fact that the first winner is gay came out

1020
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: on screen and was naked. Honey, that's gay rights. He

1021
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: also was convicted that is moonlight that. He was also

1022
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: convicted with three counts related to attempted tax evasion and

1023
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: fraudulent tax returns in two thousand and six. He served

1024
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: his fifty one months and after failing to him end

1025
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: his two thousand and one tax returns, additional nine months

1026
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:04,959
Speaker 1: in prison. Wow legend. Wow. Yeah, I love him. It's

1027
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: tough when your whole thing is like lying and stuff.

1028
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Then when you have to go back out into the

1029
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: real world and do taxes, I can see how that

1030
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: would be difficult. Yeah, he was sort of punished for

1031
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: being good at his job, which is being a bitch

1032
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: onto television. I feel like the prize of Survivors should

1033
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: be you don't have to pay taxes ever again, I agree,

1034
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: instead of money. Yes, that's such a good idea, right,

1035
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: that would be great. I would go In general, I

1036
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: think I really think we owe our and I say

1037
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: this really not as a reality television fan, but I

1038
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: really think we owe our reality TV stars more as

1039
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: a nation. Yeah. Yeah, and not the ones that are rich.

1040
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: Not Kim Kardashian. I think she should be in prison.

1041
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: But I think like the people, the people that like

1042
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: went there, humiliated themselves on screen, and then nothing really

1043
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: came of it. I'm like they should get a check

1044
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: from the government every month. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we

1045
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: need to be into tamed. Yeah, quite frankly or else more,

1046
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, internal strife will happen more more domestic uh wars.

1047
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: To be honest, yeah, we will not rest until Joe

1048
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Speaker 1: Biden in a gay voice in a hunted house announces

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: a plan to give to give monthly payments to anyone

1050
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: who competed in a reality show from the years ninety

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01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: five to two thousand and five. Yes, and also, while

1052
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: we're at it, like tax division shouldn't be a crime.

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: It's like taxes are so hard to do well. It

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: should be a crime if you're above a certain if

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01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: you are in a certain right. Just to be clear

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: that it should be a crime, but it should not

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01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: be a crime if you make under let's say a

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Speaker 1: hundred and one hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, every time I

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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: do mine, I'm like everyone's doing these wrong, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they could just point to literally any

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: person and be like you are going to jail, and

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01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: be like okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: crazy that at the highest forms of like you're sort

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Speaker 1: of like, well, taxes, that's the most serious thing, you know.

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Speaker 1: I can I can sort of. I can say a

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01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: white lie here and there in my normal life. I

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01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: can say white lie here and there in my professional life.

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01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: But taxes, that's where I have to get serious. And

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01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: then you get up there and then you talk too

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01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: an accountant and it's like, okay, so is this all

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01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: run by the mafia? Literally, yes, it's a scam. They're

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01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna cut us off now, but it's a scam. Yeah. Wait,

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01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: you're both freezing. Oh my goodness. It makes no sense,

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: I know, but um good to know that you guys

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: have my back on the island. Yeah. Yeah, we are

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01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: your allies through and through. We are absolutely on your team.

1077
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm like texting my my best friend, who's a cop.

1078
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't listen to anything I'm saying right now.

1079
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm just being like paid, I'm just playing the game. Yeah,

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01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: should we do our final segment? I think we should.

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01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be lovely if I had something

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01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: to say for it. But maybe it'll come to me.

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: It'll come to me. Yeah, Vanessa our final segment that's

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01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: called shout outs, and in it we pay homage to

1085
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: the classic street tradition of the radio shout out by

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: giving a shout out to anything that we are enjoying.

1087
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: So imagine the two thousand and one and you're in

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Time Squares shouting out to your squad back home, but

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: about anything that you like, and we will go first. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I have one. I don't know if I've done this before,

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a running theme in my life.

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: What is up, girls, guys, and everybody else. I love you,

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: and I see you, and I want to give a

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01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: huge shout out to really expensive lunch. This town is

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01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: made for you to enjoy the most expensive lunch of

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: all time, and oh baby, do I do it. Sometimes

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01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: I'll just want to buy a sandwich and it is

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: a number that I didn't know a sandwich could be.

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01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: It makes me feel broke, It makes me feel small,

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01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: It makes me feel regretful, It makes me feel humble,

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01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: and it makes me feel hungry to work harder at

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: comedy and writing and performing so that one day I

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01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: can afford even expensive lunches and even get less sides

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01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: with it and just haven't be a half of a

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: sandwich that is, for some reason, sixty five dollars. That

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: is my dream. I think it's possible, and I think

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: it will actually be sooner than we think anything is possible.

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: When you have expensive lunch restaurants, I love you and

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: I support you, and lunch is expensive, whoa, whoa, I

1110
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: love that. What was your last expensive lunch? Literally today,

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: I went to that sandwich place that we went to,

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01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, Amy should got sandwiches. It was so good,

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01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: but it was fifty dollars and I'm like, are you

1114
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: kidding me? Like I actually don't know what to do

1115
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: with that. I was just like, I'm like, am I crazy?

1116
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Like it did the world? Am I? Like just elderly?

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01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like this damn town? Or is it? Like no,

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01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: that's insane? Oh yes, Well it sort of gets to

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01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: the point where you're like, even the cheap stuff is

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Speaker 1: expensive now. So you're like, well, I might as well

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: go get the sandwich where they make the bread in house. Yeah,

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01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: because what I'm going to pay like two more dollars

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: than getting a shitty sandwich from the bodega. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's insane. Okay, all right, what's up home decorators and

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01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: silent enthusiasts. I want to give a quick shout out

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Speaker 1: to the concept of floor pillows that you sort of

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01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: have stored somewhere and then you bring them out when

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Speaker 1: you have people over. Guess what, not all of us

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01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: have enough couch space and chair space. Here's something fun

1130
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: and quirky you can do. Have floor pillows. I personally

1131
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: don't have any, but I've been recently toying with the

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: idea of buying some. This is something that I remember

1133
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: seeing it like sort of a pottery barn catalog, etc.

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: When I was younger, and I would think this is

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01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: the peak of bohemian life. Bohemian life is having square

1136
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: floor pillows that are mismatched. They're all from different places,

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01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: maybe they're thrifted, and one of them is plaid, and

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Speaker 1: you bring them out and that's right. You have your

1139
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: book club, you have your you have your party where oh,

1140
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: someone brings out a joint and you've passed it around

1141
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: and it's fine. You're artists, So bring out those floor pillows.

1142
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: You know, invite four of your closest friends over and

1143
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: have a conversation about socialist politics, because you are worth

1144
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: it maybe who who? Wow, I love that idea. You

1145
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: painted such a beautiful picture. Thank you, Thank you. Don't

1146
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: you think it's sort of like Rent? It's like Rent

1147
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 1: the musical? No, it's very chic, I see it. It's

1148
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: very like Oh, I'm like it's the sixties and like

1149
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: like he's a poet and she's an artist. Yes, say

1150
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Speaker 1: no more. I want um all right, Vanessa, whenever you

1151
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: are ready. Okay, Hey guys, this is Vanessa. I'm from Austin, Texas,

1152
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Speaker 1: and I just want to give a shout out to

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: many ice cream sandwiches. I've been enjoying them after a

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: dinner as a little dessert. It's a perfect little treat.

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: It's not a full ice cream sandwich. If I'm you know,

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: feeling crazy, I'll have too minis to you know, get

1157
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: me there. But the mini ice cream sandwich is this

1158
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: a perfect invention. Whoever invented it is just perfect on

1159
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: the go if I'm you know, going to a show,

1160
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: or I need to like hurry up and finish up

1161
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: dinner and just you know go to bed like I

1162
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: like to at six pm. It's great. Um, So thank

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: you so much. From Vanessa. Lovedwich is insanely good. It's

1164
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, God, ice cream sandwich is in general?

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: Is there anything better? It's the perfect little tree. A

1166
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: small dessert is like the key. That's literally the key

1167
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: to happiness. Yeah, because it's like, you don't need a

1168
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: whole thing, just give me a little thing. Yeah. Can

1169
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: I tell you something. I would We would always make

1170
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: fun of my mom growing up because she had like

1171
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: a true stack of dark chocolate bars and she would

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: just have like one square after each meal. And I'd

1173
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: be like, that is such a mom thing to do. Ah,

1174
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: guess who does literally that with the same brand of

1175
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: chocolate right now? That this girl, this girl, Oh she's

1176
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: a mama's girl. The way that I have a square

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01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: of chocolate after breakfast, lunch, and dinner, I'm not joking,

1178
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: it is. It literally is the perfect thing. You know

1179
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: what else, My boyfriend's mom came over for dinner a

1180
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: couple of months ago and brought a little pack of

1181
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: mint chocolates, those like green ones that they have at restaurants. Wow,

1182
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: that's right. It's legal to just purchase them. You don't

1183
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: have to wait to go to a restaurant. The Andy's yes, Andy, Yeah, George,

1184
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: you're wrong. It's not legal to purchase those, and I'm

1185
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: texting my cop friend fucking now. Oh my god. I

1186
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: didn't even put them in as a right off in

1187
01:09:53,000 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: my taxes. Well, Vanessa, this has been absolutely delightful. Thank

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time. Yeah, thanks for

1189
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: having me. And shout out to Richard Hatch, the first

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01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: gay winner of Survivor. I hope he's out of prison. Yeah, yeah,

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01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: I hope you figured out as taxes, they're really hard. Cheers. Bye,