1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing? 2 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is doing well, And I would imagine at 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: least if you are a Steeler fan, you can breed 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: a sigh of relief. Aaron Rodgers will be your quarterback 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: and he will be in attendance next week at mandatory 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: mini camp. So long awaited drama. I think we all 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: knew this was going to take place for a long 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: long time, but now we have. I would say official 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: word that Aaron Rodgers will be the Pittsburgh Steelers starting 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: quarterback for twenty twenty five. If I was a guessing 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: or betting man, I would say this will probably be 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: his last season playing football in the NFL. But we'll 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: discuss that from a couple of different angles, as well 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: as some other stuff going on around the NFL. Anthony 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Rigson his shoulder, which he had surgery on several years ago, 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be cooperating and he's not able to 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: practice right now, so not ideal. Then a couple of 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: news and notes from around the league. If you missed it. 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Their game plan, as they've 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: essentially been telling it now for a while, was we're 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: pretty confident in Aaron Rodgers. And I think this goes 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: back to when Aaron flew out to Pittsburgh and he 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: snuck in in that Malibu that there was a handshake deal, 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: welcome to business, because the moment the Giants looking back 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: signed Russell Wilson, they realized they were out. And I'm 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure we'll never know the exact conversation. Maybe Aaron 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: and Tomlin over the course of the next week will 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: maybe divulge some of those details, but I think everyone 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: knew at that moment where we were headed. We just 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: didn't know the date. And now we officially know that 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers will be the quarterback for the Steelers. I 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: do think Pittsburgh's in a tough spot. And listen, it's 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: not easy to replace a legend, and that's what Roethlisberger is. 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: He's probably one of the more talented players in the 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: history of the organization, and it's an organization with i'd 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: say some of the more storied group of individuals in 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: the history of the sport. That they've been winning well 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: before I was alive and I was born in nineteen 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: eighty four. All they do is win. Now over the 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: course of basically the last decade, while they make the 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: playoffs and have winning records, they have no shot to 76 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. And I think there's a big 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: and a fine line between like, yeah, we're winning nine 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: ten games, but we are getting curb stomped in the 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: first round. And as we've seen the last couple of years, 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: there is a distant gap not between them and the Chiefs, 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: the team that owns the AFC, but that next tier 82 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: of team that can't even beat the Chiefs, and that 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: would be the Bills and the Ravens, who are in 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: a different stratosphere currently than the Steelers. And I'm going 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: to relate this to like a lot of young guys, 86 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: I started losing my hair in my early twenties. I 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: remember being in college and looking down at my desk 88 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: because I surely wasn't listening to the professor, and seeing 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: hairs all over it, and knowing my dad was bald, 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: my brother's bald, My grandparents are bald, and so my 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: cousins on the male side are obviously bald. So I 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: knew it was inevitable. Yeah, when you're young and you 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: think you can fix the problem, and whether it was 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Roguaine over the counter or Propecia a prescription drug, you 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: thought you could hold on, and there is no band 96 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: aid when you're losing your hair. Maybe if you have 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: some money, you can get hair transplants and go to Turkey, 98 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: But in terms of the avenues I was going, it 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: had no shot. It was like trying to put a 100 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: band aid over a bullet hole. And that, to me 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: is what the last couple of years have been for 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like I understood why they signed Russell 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Wilson and Justin Fields last year. That was a better 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: option than Kenny Pickett, but neither option was great. Like 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: if you're hungry and your only two options are burger 106 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: King and Urba's, it's like, yeah, you can get some food, 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: do you actually want to eat that? You used to 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: love the Rodeo cheeseburger back in the nineties for Burger King, 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: But that's beside the point. And I think when you 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, like it's kind of like 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: last year, like would I rather have forty one year 112 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers or a mid thirties Russell Wilson and 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: a mobile Justin Fields? At the end of the day, 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters because you're obviously not beating 115 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, You're definitely not beating the Ravens, You're definitely 116 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: not beating the Bills. And if the Bengals can just 117 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: figure out a way to not start so damn slow, 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: you're not in the same universe as them. Why they 119 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: have elite quarterbacks in their prime And this is why, 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: like I'm not a believer in like one in the NFL, 121 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: it's hard a tank. Even Stephen Ross found that out 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: years ago when he begged Brian Flores to tank, said 123 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: he would pay him one hundred grand a loss. And 124 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Flora's won three of his last five games, one being 125 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: to the Bengals and a costume Joe Burrow, and they 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: got stuck with Tua. Now, Tua is still better option 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: than I don't know, twelve to fifteen quarterbacks in the NFL, 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: but relative to Joe Burrows, a big gap. And the 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: Steelers just refuse to suck. And maybe it's because Mike 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: Tomlins floor is so high. Maybe just they always have 131 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: enough good players. They're never gonna bottom out. They're never 132 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna have a season at this current pace like the 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Giants have had the last couple of years, or like 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots have had the last couple of years. That's 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: just not on the table. Now. It felt for a 136 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: split second like, well, if Aeron actually doesn't play and 137 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: they just roll in with Mason Rudolph, I don't think 138 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: they'll draft one or two, but I can see him 139 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: drafting like ninth or tenth, and that would be their 140 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: avenue out because google where Roethlisberger got drafted. Pretty sure 141 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: he wasn't the twenty seventh pick, and they just don't 142 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: want to do that, which I find respectable. And that's 143 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers gives them the option to do. Win 144 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: nine or ten games and then get beat in the 145 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. And they're trying to band 146 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: aid this situation. But what's gonna happen in twenty twenty 147 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: five when they're drafting nineteenth. It's gonna be the same 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: thing over and over and over again. And like I've said, 149 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: I thought last year was the opportunity before the twenty 150 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: four season, that offseason to break up with Mike Tomlin, 151 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: not because he's some scrub. Do what the Saints, I mean, 152 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: in a different manner did with Sean Payton. Trade him, 153 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: just go your separate ways. Especially last season when Ben 154 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Johnson was available. It just gave you a chance to 155 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: have a clean break. Mike Tomlin would have immediately been 156 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: hired and just kind of start over. But they refuse. 157 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: So I'm done acting. And I see it come up 158 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: every once in a while people are like, it's time 159 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: is over for Mike Tomlin. Not with the Steelers ownership, 160 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: that's not gonna end anytime soon. And their team like 161 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: this year, Like, what is their formula. They're gonna have 162 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to have a top if they are gonna have any 163 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: chance to even be better than what we think. They're 164 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to have one of the best defense in 165 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: the league. And they drafted a defensive tackle really high 166 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: in the draft, And to me, they're gonna have to 167 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: run the ball at an elite level. And listen, Najie Harris, 168 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: I've been watching them since high school. Big time recruit 169 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: goes to BAM a first round pick, thought he was 170 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: kind of average, and they drafted a guy on the 171 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: second day of the draft, Caleb Johnson from Iowa who 172 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: last season was a monster. He had fifteen hundred yards 173 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: and twenty one touchdowns. He's six foot one, two hundred 174 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds. He's a beast. They would need 175 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: to me to be like take a step for him 176 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: to essentially do what he did in college into the 177 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: NFL as a rookie. Fifteen hundred yards, I don't know, 178 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen touchdowns. Now Arthur Smith's history obviously, Derek Henry 179 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: had some of the best years of his career running 180 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: behind him. He's gonna want to run the ball and 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Can Rogers be better than whatever we saw Russell Wilson 182 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Yeah, maybe, but I just I don't 183 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: see it. And listen, if you are going to say, hey, 184 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: they did it again. They didn't lose, yeah, I mean 185 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: that's okay, cool. Did they make any more progress toward 186 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: chasing the teams that they're trying to do. Of course not. 187 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: And you could argue they're actually going to take a 188 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: step backwards because they're just it's a sh term plan 189 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: with no long term solution in play. And I don't 190 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: blame Aaron Rodgers. This was clearly his not only best option. 191 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: You could argue it was his only option to not 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: be a bad team. I mean, if you put him 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: on the Giants, I don't think much changes at all, 194 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: especially when you factor in that division and the Vikings 195 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: weren't They weren't giving him an offer, so he couldn't 196 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: go there. And I think that this ends with Aaron Rodgers, 197 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: who knows. I mean at forty one years old. Here's 198 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: the other thing. I think we got a little spoiled 199 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: with the Tom Brady situation. He still played really well 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: at forty two and forty three. You know, a huge 201 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: part of Rogers' game was never playing like Tom. Tom 202 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to move for decades. Aaron Rodgers when 203 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: he was winning MVPs four or five years ago, I 204 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: guess a little less than that. Three or four years ago. 205 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: His athletic ability still played a huge part. Now, was 206 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: he the twenty eleven twenty fifteen kind of that range 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: version of Aaron? No, but I would say a huge 208 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: part of his arsenal was moving around. You saw last year. 209 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Every once in a while he begh He moved decent, 210 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: but for the most part it's gone. He ain't running 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: away from a soul and really the playmaking ability doesn't exist, 212 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: especially as the season went on and it got cold. Well, 213 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: what division does he play? The AFC North. What's the 214 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind about the AFC North? Cold, 215 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: cold weather, smash mouth, tough football, and not that he's 216 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: not used to playing and that he played in Green 217 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Bay for years, but that ability to add lib is gone. 218 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: And the other thing we saw out of Tom that 219 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: last season, and I don't blame any of these guys, 220 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: and we saw it a little bit with Rogers, you know, 221 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four playing for the Jets in what 222 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: world when you're in your forties, when you have hundreds 223 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars in the bank, are you going 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: to stay in that pocket that extra second so you 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: can deliver that ball? On third and eight in the 226 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, was seven minutes left in a game where 227 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: you're down for and if you don't get this first down, 228 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, it could be the game. And 229 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: those guys were willing to do that for the most 230 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: of their career, and that's what made him great players. 231 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Once you get in the fourth I'm not getting molly 232 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: whopped here by this untouched, blitzing defender who is going 233 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: to hit me right in my chest and I might 234 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: not be able to breathe when I hit the grounds. 235 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: Why they kind of let the ball go early or 236 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: they just hit the ground, And you become, again, relative 237 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: to what they were, a shell of themselves, because what 238 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: they were were, especially in Aaron Rodgers case, best player, 239 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: you probably argue in the history of the Packers, and 240 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: one of the greatest players of all time. And that's 241 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: not what is he a serviceable player? Is he a 242 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: functionable player? Of course, he's still really talented. He still 243 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: throws the ball with a high velocity, and when he 244 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: has time, he's an accurate passer. But the version of 245 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: the guy that Lafleur and Gudakin's got to win those 246 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: MVPs is not the same guy that we saw last year, 247 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: which is of course he's not. He's forty one years old, 248 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I mean, Steelers man, I feel 249 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: for Steelers fans because it could be worse. I mean, 250 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: you could be a shitty organization. But it's like, what 251 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: are we doing here? Where are we going? And the 252 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: answer we all know when it comes to the AFC 253 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: playoffs is nowhere. The NBA Finals are here, and this 254 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: is your last chance to bet on the NBA until 255 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: next season, and the DraftKings sports Book, an official sports 256 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: betting partner of the NBA, is pulling out all the 257 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: stops to make it a finals. To remember, one team 258 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: will be crowded champ and the other will be lost 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: to history. Who you got winning at all? Obviously everyone's 260 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: picking the Thunder not gonna lie. 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You guys know where 305 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: I stand on Anthony Richardson and the Daniel Jones situation. One. 306 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want either one of these quarterbacks. But I've 307 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: seen this song and dance before. We just saw it 308 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Trey Lance draft to 309 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: guy high clearly not working out. The players on the 310 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: team aren't behind it. You bring in another guy, it's over, 311 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: not even when training camp starts, and the coaches and 312 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: the gms can say whatever they want. This ended the 313 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: moment they gave Daniel Jones fourteen million dollars. It was 314 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: his job to lose. Just like in the example I've 315 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: used with the forty nine Ers, the moment they signed 316 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Trey Lance wasn't even gonna be the second 317 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: string quarterback anymore with the forty nine Ers, And that's 318 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: the way it played out now. Trey Lance ended up 319 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: getting traded to the Cowboys. I think it would be 320 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: more difficult to trade Anthony Rigson given that he's currently injured, 321 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: but same type deal, and now that he has an 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: injury that dates back to the shoulder injury in twenty 323 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: twenty three, which knocked him out for the season. It's 324 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: clearly not good and sometimes you have a shoulder injury 325 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback position. Happened to Cam and he was never 326 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: the same. I mean Cam in his heyday, never the 327 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: most accurate passer, but was like I'm trying to think 328 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: of a closer that throws one hundred and three miles 329 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: an hour. I mean just had a bazooka. And then 330 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: those last couple of years with Caroline and then definitely 331 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: for the Patriots, his arm was a shell of itself. 332 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: And I'm no doctor, didn't go to medical school, but 333 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: I know shoulder injuries. When it comes to quarterbacks, fatigue 334 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: and soreness, especially at a young age, it's one thing. 335 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like when Tom Brady or Peyton 336 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: Manning or Drew Brees or some of these Broethlisberger, some 337 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: of these guys in their mid to late there, he 338 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: need a day off or a couple of days off 339 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: or totally understandable. It's another thing to be under twenty 340 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: five years old. You should be fresh as the days. 341 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: You should be able to throw an unlimited amount of footballs, 342 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, it's hurting. I'm in pain, so listen. 343 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Totally understand why they swung for the fences. I commend 344 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: and admire that mindset. I think it's the right mindset 345 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: to have. And just as like when Aaron Judge hits 346 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: a walk off three run home run, he's swinging for 347 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: the fences. Sometimes you don't even make contact and you strikeout, 348 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: and you go back to the dugout and put your 349 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: shit together and you can head home. And I think 350 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: that's what we have to acknowledge. Chris Ballard swung for 351 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: the fences on this one, and he didn't make contact. 352 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: He whiffed. Derek Carr. I don't pretend to quite know 353 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: everything that's going on here. Clearly it got weird with 354 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: the Saints. I do think Derek has shown over the 355 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: course of his career he's a high character guy. But 356 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: I do think it's kind of easy to say. He 357 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: made some comments essentially saying that you know, part of 358 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: the reason he retired is he didn't want to get 359 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: surgery and just collect a bunch of money for the 360 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: Saints and do nothing. Now, his actions spoke louder than 361 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: his words. He gave the Saints. I think ten million 362 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: dollars back, which he could have collected if he had 363 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: just gotten the surgery. But I do think he knew, 364 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: whether he was healthy or not, that Kellen Moore did 365 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: not want him, that this new coaching staff wanted no 366 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: part of him. Now he's made comments about that his 367 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: career is really over. We'll see and it'll be interesting, 368 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: like does he get surgery or was it one of 369 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: those where like if you're just a normal citizen, you know, 370 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you could get your you know, your 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: MCL feels a little weird, you could get surgery. Or 372 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: he could also just live through it. And most human 373 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: beings try to avoid surgery at all times. Like obviously 374 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to play football, you need to get work done. But 375 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you get surgery right now, you're probably 376 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: not playing golf for a while, probably aren't just enjoying 377 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: your family and hanging out this summer. So maybe he 378 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: doesn't get surgery. And to me, if you don't get surgery, 379 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: it probably truly ends his career. And that's what all 380 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: science point to right now. The other thing that we 381 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: had talked about a couple weeks ago that Kyle Pitts 382 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: was like holding out because he wanted a new contract. 383 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: Turns out he was actually injured. But there are a 384 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: bunch of rumors that teams have called in trying to 385 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: trade for him. To me, there's enough smoke with this situation. 386 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: If Pitts is healthy, he is not going to be 387 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: on the Atlanta Falcons. And I think it's one of 388 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: those where a team that really liked him in the 389 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: draft can get him for like a fifth round pick. Now, 390 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: part of it is because of his contract it ends 391 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: after the season, and he's expensive. He almost makes eleven 392 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: million dollars for a guy catching less than fifty balls. 393 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: But there is definitely going to be a team that thinks, like, listen, 394 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: we had this guy rated as a top five, top 395 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: ten pick in the draft a couple of years ago. 396 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: We have seen guys like this, you know, Darren Waller 397 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: is a good example of Like when Darren Waller really 398 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: got it figured out for a couple of years with 399 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Gruden and the Raiders, he was an elite player. And 400 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I think people will look at Kyle Pitts kind of 401 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: in that mold. Is Kyle Pitt's gonna block of course not, 402 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: but that's not what we're trading him for. And someone 403 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: that has the cap space, like I'll give a fifth 404 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: or six round pick because I think at the end 405 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: of the day, that's that's all that Atlanta would end 406 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: up fetching for him. Welcome to Chasing Challenges, brought to 407 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: you by Microsoft. In the NFL. Just like in the 408 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: business world, overcoming obstacles is key to success. Microsoft empowers 409 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: business decision makers with AI solutions, simplified cloud and data management, 410 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: and trustworthy, responsible technology to turn challenges into opportunities. In 411 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: this segment, we'll explore some of the biggest challenges being 412 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: faced in the NFL and how they can be overcome. 413 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise 414 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: to say bring it on. This week, we're discussing the 415 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: challenge face by I do think Washington is in an 416 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: interesting spot. They have this incredible first year with Adam, 417 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: with Dan Quinn, with Jayde Daniels. It couldn't have gone 418 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: any better. Jayden has this historic season, It resurrects a franchise, 419 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: They win a couple of playoff games. It's just it's 420 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: incredible how far they made it given their roster, and 421 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: then this season they load up. They trade for Deebo 422 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: Samuel they trade for Laramie Tunzel. It's like, God, there 423 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: actually could be. It's weird to say about a team 424 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: that was in the Final four, but a lot more 425 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: substance behind it that their roster should be dramatically better. 426 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: And then I see a headline that like, Terry McLaurin 427 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been there this week or last week and doesn't 428 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: plan on coming to OTAs because why he wants a 429 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: contract extension. Don't blame him. He makes twenty three million dollars. 430 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: He looks at guys like Brandon Ayuk making twenty nine thirty. 431 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: He looks at Deebo Samuel on his own team, who's 432 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: making more. And there are videos about Laramie Tunzel, who 433 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: hasn't been around either, kind of going viral about like 434 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: don't worry that he's not at OTA's Look how good 435 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: a shape he's in. You guys know why the Houston 436 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: Texans traded Laramie Tunzel not because they thought the guy 437 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: wasn't good. Of course, they know that their offensive line sucked. 438 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: He by far was their best player, and they don't 439 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, we'll just trade our left tackle. 440 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: It's because they knew that he wanted a massive contract extension. 441 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: So you got Laramie Tunzel and you got Terry McLaurin. 442 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. When you pay a linebacker or 443 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: a safety, or a tight end or certain positions, even 444 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: if they are elite players, right like how Hee given 445 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: Zach Bond some money or or Christian McCaffrey or Sakuon 446 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Barkley or George Kittle some of these positions to get 447 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: these contract extentions. It actually doesn't cost you that much 448 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: money when you give a contract extension or a new 449 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: con to a guy like Terry McLaurin or a guy 450 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: like Larry mc tunzel. It is really expensive. Now, part 451 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: of having this rookie contract with Jayden Daniels is to 452 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: take advantage of that with other players. But here's the thing. 453 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: This is Larry mc tunzel's third contract and he's gonna, 454 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: i'm sure want well over one hundred million dollars guaranteed. 455 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: What do you think Terry mclaurin's gonna cost plays wide 456 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: receiver who's been your star wide receiver for years? And 457 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: he looks around what other guys he understands. Okay, maybe 458 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm not justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. But I'm definitely 459 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: in the category of like the Ayux and the Amanas 460 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Saint Browns and kind of that crew. And I'm a 461 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: year later. So you factor in just natural inflation of 462 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: the salary camp and I think you could be looking 463 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: at the two guys. I don't know if that's eighty 464 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: million for McLaurin guaranteed and definitely one hundred guaranteed for Tunzel. 465 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at a lot of money between 466 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: two players. It's probably why these deals haven't got done 467 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: quite yet because they're complicated. But this also shows like 468 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: how important and how different each individual year is, and 469 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: coaching and gms say this all the time. Every year 470 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: is his own entity, Every year is its own team, 471 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: Every year is his own story because what happened last 472 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: year is completely different than this year. We have a 473 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: new draft class, we have new players in free agency, 474 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: we have guys that played a role last year that 475 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: are now gone. So you just never know. You have 476 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: contractual situations that come up, you have coaching staff turnover, 477 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: and I think not that this is there's a good 478 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: problem to have. I mean, these are good players, but 479 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: you are talking large amounts of money, and you always 480 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: have to think twice before giving that out. You know, McLaurin, 481 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: I would have no hesitation giving him some big time money. 482 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: I think the Tunswell thing is, you know, a little complicated. 483 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: And let's face it, Dbo is in a situation where 484 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: he's playing for money because if he has a good season, 485 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: he will get paid again if he doesn't, like he 486 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: kind of probably is on a year by year basis, 487 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: and so he's a guy in that room who has 488 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot to prove. And I just think there are 489 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: some more persons nowadays with expectations and you add players 490 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: like this, there just becomes more risk. And I'm not 491 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: jumping off the Commander's bandwagon and think like they're gonna 492 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: fall apart here, but they they's got more stuff going 493 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: on right now, especially when you add that they're not 494 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: like the little engine that could. They're not the team 495 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: that no one's paying attention to anymore. They're a team 496 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: that now, when you play this happened to Lions a 497 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, like when the Commanders are on 498 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: your schedule, you're gonna take that game very fucking seriously. 499 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: And that hasn't happened for that franchise in decades. 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Catch action packed 509 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 3: live events and exclusive sports documentaries and profiles only on 510 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: Vice TV. 511 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a little mail back here on Fugezi Friday, 512 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: and you guys know the drill at John Middlecoff at 513 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is my Instagram. Fire into those dms and 514 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: get your questions answered. Here on the show, we will 515 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: start with Xander, not Shoffley, but a different Xander who's 516 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: a big Ravens fan. I big Ravens fan. It admittally 517 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: funny to see the dumpster fire that is the Browns. However, 518 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: at some point it becomes embarrassing for the NFL. I 519 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: feel as if upper management doesn't care about winning football 520 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: games and continue to not only put a terrible product 521 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: in the field, but they also hurt the rest of 522 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: the league. The Watson deal had potential to destroy the 523 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: quarterback market. The league clearly didn't want Manzel or Chaudor 524 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: to go as high as they did. To humble them, 525 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: it feels as if the Browns try to sabotage the 526 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: rest of the league. Do you think the Browns are 527 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: trying to mess with the rest of the NFL? Or 528 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: is there some reason they always seem to be making 529 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: the wrong move. I don't think anyone didn't take Shador 530 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: Sanders or Johnny Manziel to quote unquote humble them. I 531 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: think they didn't draft Johnny because at the time, I 532 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought he was like a 533 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: drunk and a druggie, which played out that way. And 534 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: the Shador thing, I think a lot of people thought 535 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: that he wasn't a starting quarterback, and the draft process 536 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: has been well documented was a disaster. So I think 537 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: it was more they just weren't comfortable drafting them. I 538 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: don't think it was about It's not about humbling them. 539 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't think teams think like that. I mean, it's 540 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: just a business trying to make money, trying to win. 541 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: I think the Browns are trying to win. I think 542 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: their owner, who's really rich and successful and really you know, 543 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: outside of football, he's one of those guys that can't 544 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: help but be really, really involved. And you know, most 545 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: of these guys, no matter how much they know in 546 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: their individual industries, to make a bunch of money doesn't 547 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: translate to football, it really. I mean, David Tepper is 548 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: one of the greatest investors of all time. I mean, 549 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: look how the Panthers have been going. I mean it's 550 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: I guess this matt Ishbia guy in my backyard that 551 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: owns the Suns. Google how much that guy's worth. Look 552 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: at the Suns. I think these guys. You know, in business, 553 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a while, you can buy 554 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: your way out of it. In football you can't because 555 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: of these salary caps, because you only have so many resources. 556 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, in business, I have unlimited resources. Right in football, 557 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I only got so many draft picks and so much 558 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: cap space to buy a player. So the Chador thing, 559 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: I've said it from the beginning had the owner written 560 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: all over it. Now you could argue Dylan Gabriel in 561 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: the third round now, and that's on the coach and 562 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: the GM clearly. But the other thing is the NFL. 563 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: This is a television shows where they make all their 564 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: money from TV. Part of an entertaining television show. You 565 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: need heroes and you need villains. I'm not proud to 566 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: say it, but because of her, I've watched a lot 567 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: of reality television show and the train wrecks on some 568 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: of these reality television shows, especially on Bravo, are the 569 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: only reason that I can stomach it, because it's like 570 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: you can't turn away. And for every the Chiefs and 571 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens and now the you know, the Eagles and 572 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: the McVeigh rams and the Shanahan Niners, like you need 573 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: some shit shows. And that adds to the drama of 574 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: the league. Never forget when the playoffs are going on 575 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the two biggest stories the playoff games 576 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: are for the weekend. During the week it's really all 577 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: about the coaching firings and hirings. So it all plays 578 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: a part into the reality television show that is the 579 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: National Football League. I'm curious what your favorite team uniforms 580 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: are I don't know. I mean, I maybe I'm nostalgic. 581 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: I would go back to like some of the stuff 582 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: from the nineties. I'm a traditionalist, like I loved just 583 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: when you look at the eighties, even like the forty 584 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: nine Ers, the Giants, the Bears. I don't know. I 585 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: don't even think that's the subject that I really don't care, 586 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: because I'm not even like turned off by weird uniforms. 587 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: Remember the uniforms that like once Seattle started going neon, Like, 588 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: I really don't care. Honestly, that's one thing like uniforms, 589 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: like obviously I like in college, Penn State, Notre Dame. 590 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: There's a traditional nature to some of the sc But 591 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: I also don't like Oregan's eight million uniforms don't bother 592 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: me either. It's I just don't have the energy, and 593 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily asking me this. But like some of 594 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that I guess quote unquote turns people off, 595 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: like I'm indifferent. I guess I just don't care. Long 596 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: winded way of saying, just don't care. Love the pod 597 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: listen every day. I've seen Coward say that Breeze is 598 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: not a top ten all time quarterback. Probably one of 599 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the craziest things I've ever heard, consider he played fifteen season, 600 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: second most and almost second in almost every statistical category 601 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: factoring in he inherited a dumpster fire, beat three Hall 602 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks to win Super Bowl. Can you rank 603 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: your top ten of all time? I would say, in 604 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: no particular order, you go Brady Montana, l Way, Marino, 605 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Farv Rogers. I would say if I could get both 606 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: for in their prime, I would take Young over Breeze Mahomes. Yeah, 607 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: I would say Breeze would be in the discussion. It's 608 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: hard I can't really speak to like, you know, they 609 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: a Tittles and Johnny Unitas and Roger Stallback. You know, 610 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't have a great feel. I mean, we can 611 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: bring up stats and stuff, but you guys know where 612 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I stand. If I didn't watch him, it's hard for 613 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: me to argue. It really is like I never watched 614 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Larry burdon his prime or Magic Johnson. I know those 615 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: guys are awesome. I didn't really watch Elway or Marino 616 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: in their prime, but like I know enough football, and 617 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: I saw both those guys play in their latter stages. 618 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Like obviously those guys are badasses, so I would say 619 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: he would be in the discussion. If you go Brady Montana, Elway, Marino, Oh, Peyton, Manning, Rogers, 620 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Farv Young, Mahomes, I think he'd be in the discussion. 621 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: He's fucking good. He's first about Hall of Famer. Sometimes 622 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: these arguments, Who cares whether he's eighth or eleventh, It 623 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: doesn't change anything. As a Titans fan, I'm a fan 624 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: of Brian Callahan in theory. He comes off intelligent and 625 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: thoughtful in his press conferences and interviews. However, he went 626 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: three and fourteen and his team was highly penalized. They 627 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: look sloppy, and they were blown out in half the losses. 628 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: Levis looked worse in the second year from his rookie season. 629 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Even chocking quarterback up is the biggest issue. The roster 630 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: is still bottom five and no one has grand expectations 631 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: for this year. But our owner is a head case. 632 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: She fired a GM head coach every year for the 633 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: past three off seasons, and Brian now is scarily is 634 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: squarely at risk of making it four. What's your read 635 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: on Callahan. I have a good buddy that works for him, 636 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: that loves him. Obviously, you know, with his dad being there, 637 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: you would think their offense, if line is going to 638 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: be good. I think most people view Brian Callahan as 639 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: very knowledgeable at the position, but their defense was solid 640 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: last year, they just kind of like, after a while 641 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 1: when your offense is that shitty. I think it's hard 642 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: to underestimate when your quarterback position, there's a difference between 643 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: like unsettled and just a complete tire fire train wreck. 644 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: And that's what it was really from the jump. And 645 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: after a while, even if your defense is okay, they 646 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: eventually give up because your offense sucks so bad. So 647 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: I think you almost got to give them a little 648 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: bit of a pass. Now. I also think you've got 649 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: to be realistic. You know, it's a rookie quarterback. Most 650 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: people are not going to be Jade Daniels, so there's 651 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of ups and downs. And if 652 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: he has a season that's more like a Caleb Williams 653 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: or something, then it could be a little weird. So 654 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't I think if they won six or seven games, 655 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: it would be a step in the right direction. But 656 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: does Borganzi the new GM and Brinker, do those guys 657 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: want to bring in a new guy, like you said, 658 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: the owner, who's the dog? You know? How does she 659 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: handle it? Who knows? I think there's just a lot 660 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: of question marks. But I know the Titans, I mean, 661 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: they've spoken about it, but they're really really high on 662 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: cam Ward. So to me, I have a hard time 663 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: seeing that they would pivot off him if he looks 664 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: like he's got a chance to be like a franchise 665 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback in the NFL. Why is quarterback the 666 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: only position where we seem willing to put modern guys 667 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: on the all time list Mahomes and to a lesser extent, 668 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Lamar being ranked among all time greats. I feel like 669 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: when you talk about quarterback rankings, Mahomes is always mentioned, 670 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: but when you talk about all time running backs, someone 671 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: like Derek Henry never is. Why is that? You know? 672 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't know the unwritten rules for ranking talk, but 673 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: you do bring up a fair point, right, like greatest 674 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. It took like Aaron Donald to retire before 675 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: everyone was like Aaron Donald right in the mix. I 676 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: don't know why that takes place. I guess you have 677 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: to be really, really special. I mean, Derrick Henry is unreal. 678 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Famer, but he started slow. 679 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: Not that necessarily matters. I mean, we've had guys starting 680 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a great answer for you, 681 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: but you're right, you're dead on. I'm a former PGA 682 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: pro but got out and I'm going back to school 683 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: with this fall for communications. Before I ask, I wanted 684 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: to let you know that you and Colin are two 685 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: of the biggest people I look up to. Well, I 686 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: appreciate being in that company, and you're probably pretty good 687 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: at golf. Always been curious about this because I never 688 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: quite seen anything like it. What was the reaction in 689 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: the building when Danny Watkins got caught moonlighting as a 690 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: firefighter at the end of the twenty twelve season. Not 691 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: sure if you ever come back around Philly, but would 692 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: love to play golf with you if you do. I 693 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, I was living in San Francisco and 694 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: doing the West Coast, so I don't I don't have 695 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: a great memory of that I was in the office. 696 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: The only thing I would say about Danny Watkins one 697 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: he was really good in college. I mean, he was 698 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: really good at Baylor, and you know, I think the 699 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 1: easy projection was he was going to be like Logan 700 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: Mankins left tackle, put him at guard and he was 701 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: going to be really good. Turns out he was just 702 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: and everyone knew it right away, extremely immature, and it 703 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: was clear like this guy's like wired, like a twelve 704 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: year old. Just a disastrous pick. But it's not like 705 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he was good in college. I will defend 706 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: it that way. Was having some cocktails with the boys. 707 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: What a great time to be alive having cocktails with 708 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: the boys, and got into a bait debate about the 709 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: sweetest thing in sports. Popular answer was a running back 710 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: going untouched up the middle for seventy five clean one 711 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: punch ko in UFC pure nothing but net three ball 712 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: from the logo jumping one handed catch over the middle. Personally, 713 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: nothing gets me fired up like seeing a shortstop or 714 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: outfielder throw an absolute seed across the diamond to get 715 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: someone out. What play in sports gets you fired up? 716 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this watching the first game one 717 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: of the Stanley Cup Finals. I guess football, if you 718 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown, but if it's late in the game 719 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: or an overtime, you're kind of on the edge of 720 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: your seat. Hockey, you are like on the edge of 721 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: your seat, the action, but the moment that goal happens, 722 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: the game just ends. It's extremely abrupt. So I would 723 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: say a goal in hockey at the end is pretty exhilarating. 724 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: I would say the same thing about baseball. You know, 725 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: in a playoff game, in a tie game, whether they're 726 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: not doing the runner at second and someone just hits 727 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: a home run and the game immediately ends. I think 728 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: anything that ends the game is that that could be 729 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: a game winning shot. In basketball, we saw like Aaron Gordon, 730 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: for example, in the playoffs for Denver, like that moment 731 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: where there's no time left from the shot and everyone 732 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: just goes nuts. Whether you're at home and the place 733 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: goes bananas, or whether you're on the road and the 734 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: place goes silent. I think, you know, in football, most 735 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: of the walkoffs, I would say, tend to be a 736 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: field goal. So in basketball, you know, anytime it's a 737 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: long shot, it's pretty exhilarating. Baseball, anytime there's a walk 738 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: off home run, that's a pretty badass. There was a 739 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: moment I was dialed in shows you what time of 740 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: year we're at the softball game. It was the Semis 741 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma against Texas Tech Oklahoma has won four straight national championships, 742 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: and that they were headed toward their fifth and they're 743 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: losing in the bottom of the seventh, which in softball 744 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: you only play seven innings, and the ninth hitter hit 745 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: a gameing home run to make it to two. Now 746 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: they ended up losing in the bottom of the d 747 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: maybe it was the top of the ending, they lost 748 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the inning, but it was just 749 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: like it was a jaw dropping moment. So I think 750 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: there's something special. We can debate baseball's cultural importance. What 751 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: I do think we can't debate is there are moments 752 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: in that sport with a home run that in the 753 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: bottom or top of the last ending of a game 754 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: that are freaking awesome. Question for the pod, how do 755 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: you keep your sanity with working from home and never leaving? Well, 756 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: I would say a couple of things. I leave every day. 757 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, at minimum go to the gym and try 758 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: to go for a walk, So I mean I'm never 759 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: not leaving the house. I've been working from home well 760 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: before anyone even talked about working from home in twenty seventeen. 761 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: Part of it, I was just fired. I had to 762 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: start my own thing and started podcasting in twenty seventeen. 763 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: For the first four or five years, I live by myself, 764 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: so I had a two bedroom condo. I've never worked 765 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: from home while my office was in my bedroom, that 766 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: that would be difficult for me. A second, when I 767 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: first started dating Maria, we lived in an apartment. I 768 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: rented a second studio apartment and just turned that into 769 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 1: my office, so I left every day. And then since 770 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: I've been here at the house, I mean we got 771 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: some I got four bedrooms, so I got some rooms 772 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: to go to. But we don't have children yet. I 773 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: don't think it would be possible to keep my sanity 774 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: with kids and work from home. It's why I gotta 775 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: have to find an office. I'm already doing some initial 776 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: digging and to have a place to separate church and state. 777 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: But early on I didn't have a choice. I didn't 778 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: have any money in any options to do anything else, 779 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: so it was out of necessity. And I would say 780 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: lately it's been con venions slash it just I haven't 781 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: needed one yet, so I've been able to balance it. 782 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: I've been doing it long enough to you know, I'm 783 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: not doing. What I do is kind of unique, so 784 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: it's in some businesses it would be more difficult than others. 785 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sitting on calls all day and 786 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But yeah, I mean it's definitely sometimes 787 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm probably fatter because of it. I can just go 788 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: to the kitchen. But who's to say if I had 789 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: an office, I wouldn't have snacks. Good question. I'm very 790 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: low on the Dolphins this year. How realistic do you 791 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: think Gruden to the Dolphins is in twenty six? I 792 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: would say it'd be on the table. I think if 793 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 1: they suck this year, which I think is a decent chance, 794 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: that owner's proven to be nuts, He's proven to be 795 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: going after big fish. I mean, he tried to get 796 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: Harbaugh multiple times. Who were his options? Like? Who are 797 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: I guess if Mike Tomlin was available, maybe like a 798 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart type. But yeah, I would say that Gruden. 799 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: My guess would be is in January of twenty twenty six, 800 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: John Gruden is either the head coach of a college 801 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: like a I'm just gonna use this team even though 802 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: Billy Napier they might be good this year, like a 803 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: Florida you know, like an SEC team, or a team 804 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: like the Dolphins. I was thinking that the AFC is 805 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: better than the NFC. It seems like the AFC is 806 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: has starting quarterbacks and less impressive rosters, and the NFC 807 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: has less good quarterbacks with better rosters. I think at 808 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs were merged between the top fourteen teams, we 809 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't see NFC teams make it to the Super Bowl. Well, 810 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we saw the Eagles beat the 811 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: shit out of the Chiefs, So I think the Eagles 812 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: proved that they would they could play with the Ravens, 813 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: the Bills, and obviously the Chiefs. I think that the 814 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: Eagles could. I think the Lions are healthy depending on 815 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: where they're playing. Like, I like the Lions a lot 816 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: more at home against the Bills or the Ravens than 817 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: I would on the road. But yeah, like what I 818 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: like Washington last year against those teams. No, I mean, 819 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: you're you're looking at, you know, the Chiefs from the 820 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: middle of a dynasty and you got josh Allen Lamar Jackson. 821 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: So even if you got a healthy Lion's again, the 822 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: Eagles are pretty good. So I I I would say 823 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: the Eagles are every bit obviously, I mean, we just 824 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: saw it, but they would have no problem, but I 825 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. I just think you got to 826 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: just watch how this year plays out, you know, every 827 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: years new so we'll see uh contacts on Brazil and 828 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: why it's smart for the NFL. I spent months in 829 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: Brazil as an ex Jane student last year, and most 830 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: people would be shocked about how popular American entertainment is 831 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 1: in the country, for sports, music, and TV and movies. 832 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: The country is huge, with over two hundred million people, 833 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: many of who are just recently getting internet access and 834 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: learning English. The market is ripe for the picking. Living 835 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: there a relatively short time, I saw countless NBA Baseball 836 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: and NFL jerseys and heard older and newer American music, 837 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: with quote unquote localized television dying a slow death and 838 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 1: streaming to continue to dominate. The writing is on the wall, 839 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: not really a question, just a statement. Appreciate all you do. 840 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: That's that's good knowledge. That's why we incorporate the people here. 841 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: Your boys never been to Brazil, would love to get 842 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: on those nude beaches, walk around and like you said, 843 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: watch some American sports. So good tay two hundred million people. People. 844 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: Are you sure Brazil is that many people could be wrong. 845 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Brazil population here you are, Jesus, I didn't realize Brazil 846 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: was that big. If you would have said how many 847 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: people live in Brazil or what's the population of Brazil, 848 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: it shows you. I mean it's gonna I'm gonna sound 849 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: like an idiot. I think I would have said like 850 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: twenty million people, maybe fifty It's hard to know exactly 851 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: what you would say after the fact. I just know 852 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: I never would have got anywhere near two hundred million people. 853 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: I think I used to respect how dominant they were 854 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: in soccer because I assumed they were smaller. I was like, 855 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy how good they are with yeah, see like 856 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: Spain fifty million people, Italy fifty eight million people. I 857 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: would have thought in that ballpark, I really would have. 858 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: So I actually respect some of these European countries with 859 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: dominating at soccer. Brazil, no shit, they're good. So they're 860 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: number one sport and they got fucking two hundred million people. 861 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: I used to think of them really, really highly at soccer, 862 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: which obviously I still do because they're a great soccer team. 863 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: But look how many people they got to pick from 864 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: for the mailbag. Ashon genty Hampton and RJ. Harvey were 865 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: drafted in the top sixty by rival teams in the 866 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: AFC West. Fans of the three teams think they got 867 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: the best running back in the draft. Who is your 868 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: favorite to have the best rookie among these three backs? 869 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: Taking into account each team's O line, coaching and overall offense, 870 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: I would say Bronco fans don't think they got the 871 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: best running back in the draft. But I hear what 872 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: you're saying. I actually watched a little RJ. Harvey today 873 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: after you gave me this question. He clearly has some 874 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: a skill set. I don't I don't want to compare 875 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: him exactly to this guy because I think, what the 876 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: hell is his name? Running back? My brain's not working 877 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday afternoon. Alvin Kamara. He's a more fluid player. 878 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: But his ability to catch the ball, which is clearly 879 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: something that Sean Payton's going to want to do, and 880 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: for bo Nicks spreading the offense out a little bit 881 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: to throw them the ball. He's talented player. And if 882 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: he would have played at a bigger school, I do 883 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: think that he I do think that he would have 884 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: gotten higher. I would say we still have a lot 885 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: of questions. How good the Raiders are going to be. 886 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you're down in games, you're not running 887 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: the ball as much in the second half. How good 888 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: is their offensive line? There's this question marks with the 889 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: team I was thinking about after I talked to Spikes Act. 890 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: Their team in twenty twenty six is probably gonna be 891 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: so much better than it is gonna be this year. 892 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: They're in a transitional year, and sometimes when you have 893 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: a bad transition team, just a team I don't want 894 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: to say in flux, but just a lot of moving parts. 895 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: It's not the easiest spot. From running back, I do 896 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: think the easiest guy to pick is gonna be with 897 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers. They're gonna have a big time. They have 898 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: two stud tackles. They signed Beckden in free agency, who's 899 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: a road grader who just started for the Eagles. And 900 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: we know their coach has, like I mean, just fantasizes 901 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: about running the ball. So I would be stunned again 902 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: all these guys' health, you know, factoring in in terms 903 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: of pure rushing stats. If Hampton doesn't have a massive season, 904 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: now I could see RG Harvey catching the ball a 905 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: lot and having a well rounded season, and I would 906 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: be stunned if if Gent doesn't have moments. But I mean, 907 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: what realistically are the Raiders going to be right six 908 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: to seven win team? But you know, one of those 909 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: teams that, like next year everyone's picking to potentially be 910 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: a wild card, it can be tough spot for running 911 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: back and if they prove that, like they're not a 912 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: threat to pass the ball. I mean, Bower's really good, 913 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: but you load the box and how good is their 914 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: offensive line? How good is their defense going to be? 915 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: There's just a lot more question marks with the Raiders 916 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: than there are with those other two teams, and to me, 917 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: that helps the running back. The other thing is Chip Kelly, 918 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 1: like we'll see I mean, I you know, I think 919 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: look at the other two offensive coordinators. Say what you 920 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: want about Greg Grumman. We know he can run the ball. 921 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: And obviously Sean Payton, I mean just been out of 922 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: the NFL for a little while, and when he got 923 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: ran out of the NFL, it wasn't exactly going well 924 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: it's been a while. That was twenty sixteen, But he 925 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: doesn't have the advantage like he did last year at 926 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: Ohio State and real even two years ago when UCLA 927 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: was solid it was not because of their offense. Their 928 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: defense was elite. That's why Anthony Linson Deanton Lynn is 929 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: now at USC as a defensive coordinator because he had 930 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 1: He was awesome as a coordinator. So I would say 931 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: that Genty just has question marks because of what's around him. 932 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: But all those guys, I'd be stunned if they're all 933 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: three not really really good NFL players. Obviously, the volume