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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is an actor who

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Speaker 1: has conquered the stage and the screen and who has

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Speaker 1: been making a smile for quite some time now. Joining

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Speaker 1: me today is actor Skyler Aston, who is perhaps best

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Speaker 1: known for his starmaking role as Jesse in the hit

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Speaker 1: Pitch Perfect franchise. And as a side note, if you

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Speaker 1: have never heard his rendition of since You've been Gone

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Speaker 1: from Pitch Perfect, just go download it and all I

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Speaker 1: will say is you are welcome. Skyler has so many

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Speaker 1: incredible credits to his name, but today we are talking

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Speaker 1: about one show that multi multi millions of people are

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Speaker 1: tuning into each week, and for good reason. He currently

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Speaker 1: stars on the hit CBS show So Help Me Todd.

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Speaker 1: Season two is out now, and this series is a

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Speaker 1: must watch. It is so relatable, especially because I'm an

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Speaker 1: Italian from New Jersey and I come from a family

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Speaker 1: where we have very, very funny things that have happened

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of my life. Skyler stars as Todd.

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Speaker 1: He's a direction but talented private investigator and he works

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Speaker 1: at her successful law firm. So today we celebrate his

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Speaker 1: show So help Me Todd, and Skyler gives a little

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Speaker 1: hint as to what's coming down the line for the

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Speaker 1: rest of season two. I also really needed to know

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Speaker 1: what it's like pretending to sing badly when you really

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Speaker 1: are gifted with an incredible singing voice, which is a

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Speaker 1: moment that happens in season two. We celebrate some fan

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Speaker 1: favorite past credits, and then we go deep man. We

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Speaker 1: chat about how he leads his life with gratitude even

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Speaker 1: when doubt creeps in, how he keeps a humble mind

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Speaker 1: when he's receiving a lot of praise and attention, and

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Speaker 1: let me tell you his mentality on the importance of

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Speaker 1: encouraging his peers and a world's full of people that well,

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Speaker 1: quite often don't. It's really beautiful. So let's see if

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Speaker 1: today we can get Skyler to say something that he

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Speaker 1: has never said before. Now, Skyler, my man, how you

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Speaker 1: doing today. I'm doing, Tommy, I'm doing fantastic. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's been a whirlwind for you lately. You hanging

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Speaker 1: in there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I live for this. I mean like I'm

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Speaker 2: right now on set filming and I'm kind of in

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Speaker 2: between scenes right now, but I love burning the candle

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Speaker 2: to both ends. And when you're on a TV schedule

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Speaker 2: like this, this is when you get to talk about

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Speaker 2: the show and kind of about like how you're doing

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Speaker 2: and check in. So I make sure that all of

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Speaker 2: my check ins are on air and with people like yourself.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so you're actually filming the show two day,

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Speaker 1: like you're in between takes?

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Speaker 2: Correct, not quite takes, but in between scenes for sure? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How do you do that? That doesn't mess you up?

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Speaker 1: I feel like i'd have to be like in my trailer,

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Speaker 1: we're going over my lines, ready to rock.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've learned a lot that, like with TV

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Speaker 2: and how it works, you kind of have to be malleable.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are some times where it rains and

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Speaker 2: now we're changing the scene order or you know, something

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Speaker 2: like that, and you know, I try to protect myself

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Speaker 2: But when you're lucky enough to be in every scene

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Speaker 2: like I am, you know, you kind of have to

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Speaker 2: budget your brain a bit, and sometimes you know, you're

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Speaker 2: I'm constantly working during lunch and learning, you know, next

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Speaker 2: half of the day's stuff, and our show prides itself

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Speaker 1: Oh good, almost meditative exactly. Well, of course, the show

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Speaker 1: you're referring to, so help me, Todd, it is Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, it is so much fun. It is thrilling.

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Speaker 1: The banter between you and Marcia is so so funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no other way to describe it. It's

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Speaker 1: so comical. And the show is just really well done.

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Speaker 1: It's always interesting to me when primetime shows come out

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Speaker 1: And there's so much content out there, but this show

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Speaker 2: I think right from the get go, Like when I

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was initially built as a drama before

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Speaker 2: whether or not this is a drama, a DRAMAEDI a

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Speaker 2: comedy whatever. He is funny and he's physical, unorthodox. That

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Speaker 1: Are you somebody who in real life likes to give

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Speaker 2: I got a sharp wit. I'm a little quick on

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, you play a I've an investigator a PI.

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Speaker 1: Has that been a world you always wanted to explore?

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Speaker 1: Were you ever intrigued by that growing up? Or it's

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Speaker 2: You know, I love things like Inspector Gadget growing up,

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Speaker 2: And Scott prendergassar creator, has like such an amazing way

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Speaker 1: And the relationship between you and Marcia Geharden, who of

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Speaker 1: There's such great chemistry between the two of you. How

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Speaker 1: Why do you think people have fallen in love with

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Speaker 2: I think there's like some inherent joy to the show

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Speaker 2: so many people can relate to that, even if they

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Speaker 1: Do you think you would have been able to work

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I come from a big Italian family, and I

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Speaker 2: So that's exactly right. You Italian. We're very similar, a

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. So season two, we're loving it. What

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Speaker 2: Well, we have some incredible guest stars. We have Dean Winters,

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Speaker 2: who's been spectacular. And then yeah, there's one episode in

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Speaker 2: to work on a case specifically for him. And it's

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Speaker 2: not a law firm case if you know our show,

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Speaker 2: Like I work at my mother's law firm as the

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Speaker 2: so this kind of falls in that category. And I

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Speaker 2: am working in the secrets with my brother and we

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Speaker 2: love doing it. It was so funny. And then sneaks

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Speaker 1: And something else that's been exciting is I know you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine. And it's so cool when you

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Speaker 1: What's Spring Awakening? You get to do that with a

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Speaker 2: said before like a Billy Joel bilepick would be great.

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Speaker 2: But I think to like take on the life of

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Speaker 2: Lewin Davis movies that kind of broke out Oscar Isaac

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Speaker 2: or just something like I remember see like When I

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Speaker 2: saw Wonka with Timmy Shallomey, I was just like, not

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Speaker 2: like I want to be the next Wonka, but I

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Speaker 2: was definitely like, Wow, I'm so happy that this is happening,

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Speaker 2: because big musicals like this should be celebrated and should

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Speaker 2: be done. I think I have the skill set to

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Speaker 2: do one of these, and so I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: to tell like an original story. Maybe it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: a biopic or a remake, and it's just like an

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Speaker 2: original story where I get to really sink my teeth

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Speaker 2: into a role and do everything that I've grown to

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Speaker 2: be able to do, whether it's comedy, drama, emotion, but

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Speaker 2: also singing on camera and maybe even singing live on camera.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever think you would be able to do

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Speaker 1: it all? I mean, between theater, film, TV, like to

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Speaker 1: check off all the boxes and conquer each medium like that.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty badass.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I honestly don't think I ever Really

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Speaker 2: It's not that I ever was like limiting myself. I

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Speaker 2: just think that I was just taking it a step

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Speaker 2: at a time. When I started doing theater, the dream

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Speaker 2: was to be on Broadway, and that was only dream.

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Speaker 2: And when I was on Broadway. I was like, great,

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Speaker 2: I just want to be in this community and stay

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Speaker 2: in this community and keep doing all the roles. And

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Speaker 2: then you know, I was lucky enough to put myself

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Speaker 2: on tape for a movie and then that happened, and

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Speaker 2: it's all kind of again like informed the next step.

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Speaker 2: And now when people ask me like, hey, what do

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Speaker 2: you prefer? What would you you know, if you could

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Speaker 2: pick one, I go, that's not even a reality for

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Speaker 2: me anymore. They all inform each other and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: part with either. I now like love what I love

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Speaker 2: about each medium, and I also embrace the challenges of

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Speaker 2: each medium, and that's why I like to kind of

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Speaker 2: sharpen my skills in either just to go back to

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Speaker 2: the other and excel at that one that much more.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a really cool way to approach your artistry,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what keeps everything so fresh and

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Speaker 1: at the tip of your fingers for You're You're such

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Speaker 1: a joy to watch and it's really cool to see

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Speaker 1: you across all the different mediums and anything that you do,

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Speaker 1: which is awesome. So the name of the show is

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Speaker 1: I've never said this before, so I'm wondering, is there

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Speaker 1: something either silly or deep or whatever comes to mind

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Speaker 1: that you've never said before that you want to share

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Speaker 1: it today.

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Speaker 2: The first thing that comes to mind, and I don't

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Speaker 2: mean this literally, is you can't do that. And obviously

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Speaker 2: I've said the words you can't do that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if someone says, hey, I'm going to steal this gum

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Speaker 2: from this DELI, I'll be like, hey, you can't do that,

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Speaker 2: or you know, say this incredibly inappropriate thing that you

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Speaker 2: know should not be said. You can't do that. You

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Speaker 2: can't say that. But I think it's like when I

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Speaker 2: say that, when I'm like imagining, not saying that, I

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Speaker 2: feel like if somebody is trying to make some sort

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Speaker 2: of a positive change in their life, and even if

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Speaker 2: what they're saying is a bit, maybe in my own opinion,

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Speaker 2: deep down a bit unattainable for that person, I would

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Speaker 2: never ever want to be the person to limit someone's

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Speaker 2: potential or expectations for themselves. If someone said, hey, I

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Speaker 2: really you know, I've gotten sober and I really want

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Speaker 2: to get into singing and I really want to. I

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Speaker 2: think in three years, if I work every day, you

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Speaker 2: know I want to, I'll headline the met in ten

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Speaker 2: years you know, I wouldn't say you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I might think, like I think you're highly

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Speaker 2: underestimating what it takes to get to that point, and

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Speaker 2: maybe I would even give some kind of friendly advice,

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Speaker 2: but it would be encouraging. And I just think that

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Speaker 2: like barbia from me, to ever tell someone something that

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Speaker 2: they can't do if they believe in themselves, and especially

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Speaker 2: if they're trying to again affect positive change in their life.

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Speaker 2: It's just not in my nature. And I just think

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Speaker 2: it says a lot about a person that would kind

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Speaker 2: of say that and doubt somebody. And I try not

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Speaker 2: to doubt people again, especially if what they're doing isn't

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Speaker 2: problematic or dangerous to them or dangerous to others.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. I mean to kind of recap that,

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Speaker 1: it's basically you're saying it's not your job to say

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Speaker 1: what someone should or should do. Of course, as a human,

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Speaker 1: you might have an opinion, but you also will probably

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Speaker 1: keep that to yourself and encourage someone to go after

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Speaker 1: what makes.

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Speaker 2: Them happy exactly. That's exactly how I feel.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Thank you for sharing that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good reminder we need more and

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Speaker 1: more in this overly opinionated world we live in, especially

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Speaker 1: due to social media. So I appreciate that totally.

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Speaker 2: I think encouragement is something that is getting a little

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Speaker 2: lost these days, and I think people are constantly trying

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Speaker 2: to pick others apart and say what they can't do,

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Speaker 2: and I'd rather focus on what people can do. And

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Speaker 2: I think if we do give that encouragement to people,

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Speaker 2: they might even surprise us because who knows, maybe that

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Speaker 2: friend will headline the met in ten years. Maybe they'll

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Speaker 2: tap into something that I didn't know they could do

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Speaker 2: and they didn't know they could do. But I would

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Speaker 2: never want to be an obstacle for them to have

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Speaker 2: to overcome.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of encouraging someone, I'm going to keep encouraging

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Speaker 1: you to doing the badass job you're doing on So

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Speaker 1: help me, Todd, because we love it. It's a show

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Speaker 1: prime Time hasn't needed. It is so much fun for

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Speaker 1: everybody listening. It is out now, so keep enjoying it

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Speaker 1: week after week. Skyler. I mean, just awesome. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoy the conversation. I appreciate you for coming on in

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Speaker 1: between your sets and your takes today. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: hanging out.

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Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. Honestly, you've made this an absolute joy

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Speaker 2: and a delight. You're a wonderful guy. Honestly, you brought

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Speaker 2: it all at me, so I really appreciate you having

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Speaker 2: me on the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, and wishing your continued success on the series.

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Speaker 1: And until we meet again, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Definitely I will see you soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,