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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, welcome in to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to have on an old friend. Greg McElroy is

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Speaker 2: the former quarterback in the NFL and very well known

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Speaker 2: as a national championship quarterback for the Alabama Crimson Tide.

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Speaker 2: He's now a very popular radio show host down in

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Speaker 2: the South, and we're going to bring him on today

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Speaker 2: and shoot the ball for about twenty thirty minutes about

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Speaker 2: the college football season. I have not been this fired

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Speaker 2: up for college football in a long time, even though

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Speaker 2: my beloved Pac twelve conference is circling the drain. That

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Speaker 2: was fairly inevitable and predictable. Greg McElroy. In a few minutes,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was thinking about last year's preseason exhibition season,

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Speaker 2: and all the years I've been doing talk radio. It

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Speaker 2: was the slowest preseason of all time Becausehaan McVay several

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Speaker 2: years ago, as I've noted multiple times, stopped playing starters,

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Speaker 2: and all these young coaches followed suit. So the only

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Speaker 2: story we had last year in the preseason was Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 2: who was a good college quarterback, not stupendous. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: a hot Caleb Williams Andrew Luck Trevor Lawrence prospect, not

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Speaker 2: even a Kyler Murray, DeShawn Watson, Baker Masonfield prospect. He's

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Speaker 2: a solid guy who had a lot of college starts.

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Speaker 2: And I remember thinking, after about two weeks of Kenny

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Speaker 2: Pickett discussion, thank god he plays for the Steelers. What

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Speaker 2: if he had played for the Jaguars. There was just

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Speaker 2: no story. This year's preseason feels entirely different. First of all,

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Speaker 2: there's three first round quarterbacks. All could succeed, but I

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Speaker 2: do think one of them's fascinating. Anthony Richardson for the Colts,

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Speaker 2: not only because it's six five, two fifty five. He

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Speaker 2: has big ben Cam Newton like Josh Allen like, where

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Speaker 2: he will just be such a force, a productive force

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Speaker 2: running the football with that new offensive coach Shane Stike

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Speaker 2: and a brilliant guy who had Herbert and Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: So I think the Cultu are going to be a

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Speaker 2: fastating watch. I don't think they're gonna be a great team,

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Speaker 2: but between Jonathan Taylor the running back and Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna catch people off guard. I think

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Speaker 2: they're gonna look like Cam's rookie year. Although he's not

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Speaker 2: as polished as Cam, big Ben, a little Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: think Bryce Young is interesting because Frank Reich is one

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Speaker 2: of those coaches that didn't get a ton of credit

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Speaker 2: because he had reclamation projects. He had to clean up

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Speaker 2: Andrew Luck clean up Philip Rivers clean up Carson Wentz

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Speaker 2: all three, three for three. Frank Wright did an amazing job.

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Speaker 2: Now he gets a rookie Bryce Young, who I think

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Speaker 2: was head and shoulders above the other quarterbacks coming into

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Speaker 2: this draft. I'm fascinated by that. Also in this preseason,

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Speaker 2: Sean Paytons said, I'm gonna play Russell Wilson really interesting.

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Speaker 2: My guess is Russell reverts to about seventy five to

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Speaker 2: eighty percent of what he was at his prime. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's as good. I think quarterbacks that

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Speaker 2: move get hit more, quarterbacks that get hit more, age

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Speaker 2: much quicker. I mean, big Ben got old fast, Cam

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Speaker 2: got old fast. I was talking to Michael Vick on

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Speaker 2: And that's when Michael realized, Okay, everything's changed. So I

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Speaker 2: think this preseason's got a lot of stories. Not to mention,

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Speaker 2: I think Week one Buffalo and the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Listen, man,

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Speaker 2: you look at that Jet schedule and that's a tough

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Speaker 2: matchup with Buffalo, very good front seven, very good pass rush.

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Speaker 2: be heat on Aaron Rodgers because their early schedule for

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Speaker 2: six games is a gauntlet. So I feel differently about

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Speaker 2: this August. I'm excited for it. Last year I felt

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Speaker 2: And the other one I'd throw out there that I

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Speaker 2: find myself kind of rooting for is Mac Jones the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I contend that Mac Jones is as good as Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 2: not as athletic, doesn't run as well. I think he

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Speaker 2: the division. So this preseason Pro football fired up well.

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Speaker 2: Greg McElroy was at the very early stages of the

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Speaker 2: Alabama dynasty, and the early stages of the dynasty, quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: got no f and credit. It was all defense. Now

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Speaker 2: I want to bring you in on this. The world

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Speaker 2: changed and a lot of people, Greg, don't change with

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Speaker 2: the world. And I got to give Saban a lot

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Speaker 2: of credit. About the time Lane Kiffin got there, he

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Speaker 2: started really really upping his game with offensive players. When

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Speaker 2: he started your years, it was McLain the linebacker, it

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Speaker 2: was corners, it was right, and guys like you were like, well, Greg,

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Speaker 2: Greg actually played in the league. Greg was really good.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at it now, there are some

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's well observed. It had

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Speaker 1: they really started to acknowledge there was a time and

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Speaker 1: think coach Sata started to realize and it's going to

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Speaker 1: teams can now simulate with their scout teams the tempo,

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Speaker 1: So I actually think the pendulum starting to shift back

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Speaker 2: I say, you can't really look at Georgia and say

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Speaker 2: we could duplicate that, Okay, So right, the state of Georgia, you.

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Speaker 1: Better recruit, you better be able to get some dudes

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Speaker 2: Georgia was always the sleeping giant in college football. I

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Speaker 2: mean for years and years you would talk to NFL

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Speaker 2: scouts and they're like, why doesn't Georgia win more. You know,

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Speaker 2: we always know that the state of Alabama, Louisiana, Florida, Texas,

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Speaker 2: can duplicate. They do remind me a little of Alabama early,

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Speaker 2: where it's a defensive culture with very capable quarterbacks who

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Speaker 2: are going to get drafted. You Aj mcceron. Maybe not superstars,

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Speaker 2: a sleeping giant. But you know, I've said this for years,

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Speaker 2: Get over it. It's the best conference. Here's though, what's

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Speaker 2: really fascinating by including Texas and Oklahoma, and I think

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Speaker 2: to be it's becoming an arms race. Texas money Texas coaching.

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Speaker 2: I know the SEC fans thumps their chest, but do

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Speaker 2: you really want to face LSU Georgia, Florida Texas in

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Speaker 2: one season? Is there anybody in the South that's going

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Speaker 2: this isn't potentially and you're going to add Clemson in

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Speaker 2: Could you become just too rich? You're the AFC, You're

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Speaker 2: too powerful, there's too many stars.

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Speaker 1: I think that there are programs. Mississippi State a good example.

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Speaker 1: When the schedules came out for the twenty four season,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is. I've seen Michigan State at their best,

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Speaker 1: they were eleven to win Team ten twelve years ago,

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Speaker 1: playoff team back in fifteen. SC is I think you

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Speaker 1: been a sleeping giant for two decades because there was

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Speaker 1: never thought I'd see him lose a game. I think

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Speaker 1: UCLA is dangerous because chick Kelly, now in the nil

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Speaker 1: Washington is just getting started out or killing the Morse.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's one right now that is significantly

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Speaker 1: more difficult than the other. I think the SEC bottom

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Speaker 2: And my takeaway was once the NFL came back to

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Speaker 2: also people were spending their money on USC. People were

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Speaker 2: Well, Greg, my belief is is that college football is

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Speaker 2: today and I made this point, and Urban even said,

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Speaker 2: he goes, you know, that's actually a really good point.

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Speaker 2: I said, Ohio State's receiver recruiting is so good now

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Speaker 2: they only take five stars that they've become less physical

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Speaker 2: as a team because you have to get those players

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Speaker 2: of the ball or they're not going to go to

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. And I said to Urban, I watch Ohio

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Speaker 2: State and it's almost like, okay, we got to give

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Speaker 2: Marvin ebooks. I got to give this could not And

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Speaker 2: I said, I feel like Ohio State is not a

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Speaker 2: finesse team, asked Georgia. But there's a they're not they're

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Speaker 2: not quite sure what they are. Simultaneously, Michigan has doubled

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Speaker 2: down on physical play and running and now they've separated

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Speaker 2: between the two. And another point on this, I said,

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Speaker 2: this year's ago on the air, I said, the downside

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Speaker 2: of making the NFL so quarterback dependent and all this

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Speaker 2: greg is based on the CTE check the NFL wrote

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Speaker 2: for almost a million dollars. They change the rules. They

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Speaker 2: literally now the middle of the field is offense. You

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Speaker 2: can't hit anybody except the running back. And I said

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Speaker 2: the downside to this sport. It'll be good for fantasy

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Speaker 2: players and ratings, but if you don't have a star quarterback,

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Speaker 2: we know you're done. And you look at the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl bubble, Malmes Burrow, Allen Lamar, Jalen Hurts, I mean

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. That bubble used to feel like fifteen teams.

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Speaker 2: It feels like seven. I mean, Kirk Cousins is good,

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Speaker 2: but in this day and age, he's simply not good enough.

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Speaker 2: Dak's good, he's not good enough. And so I do

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Speaker 2: think to your point of atrophying due to safety reasons,

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Speaker 2: the NFL and college football to a lesser degree, is

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Speaker 2: so quarterback reliant and driven. You don't want football that's

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Speaker 2: Canadian football. You can only win with passing. We don't

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Speaker 2: want that. I want defense. I like when Georgia rocks people.

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Speaker 2: Those Georgia Notre Dame games were physical and intense in

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Speaker 2: lineup scrimmage. That's what separates us from the CFL. So

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Speaker 2: I do think physicality is still huge. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: the best offensive line wins most NFL games. If you

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Speaker 2: have a competent quarterback and you control the clock, you

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Speaker 2: win most games, at least to a sir.

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Speaker 1: I got to the point in college football though, because

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Speaker 1: the advent of spread and no huddle and all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like offensive line play as long as you

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Speaker 1: relies on a liability down in the NFL, it's different.

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Speaker 1: Those pass rushers when you got you know, thirty five

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Speaker 1: year old Von Millers still wreckon habit Like I mean,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about guys that are just different, and

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Speaker 1: not everybody has a guy like that on the end

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Speaker 1: of the line of skirts down the SEC. Yeah, most

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Speaker 1: teams do, even Mississippi State. Vanderbilt had a guy last

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Speaker 1: year that was legit. Kentucky always has two or three

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Speaker 1: big ten all Oile of State's got them, Michigan's got them,

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Speaker 1: Michigan State occasionally has them, Penn State absolutely has them.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen someone at sc or. UCLA's got one,

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Speaker 1: Washington's got two. But you don't see that down and

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Speaker 1: down a great unbelievable defensive front to where your offensive

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Speaker 1: line has to be rock solid or else your quarter

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Speaker 1: actually get killed. So I maybe it's coming down in

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Speaker 1: that direction a little bit as the talent starts to separate.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see the depth of defensive line talent

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Speaker 1: in the college game that we do in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: No, I see it in the SEC. You know, the

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Speaker 2: state of Louisiana probably has six million people that live

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Speaker 2: in it, and they have eight good D one D

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Speaker 2: line prospects that you're eight to twelve eight. California's got

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Speaker 2: California's got thirty eight million people. We have three. I

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Speaker 2: mean some of it. Greg I've said his diet, you know,

494
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Speaker 2: the West Coast, it's just health and wellness. You know,

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Speaker 2: you go up in California, health and wellness out in California.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I say this, I had lunch with

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Speaker 2: somebody today and he's a Californian and he lives in

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Speaker 2: the you know, he lives in a different part of

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Speaker 2: the country. He goes you as you coming back to California,

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Speaker 2: it's like, does anybody eat out here? Like every He's

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Speaker 2: like offensive linemen in high school are two fifty five.

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Speaker 2: It's like, and so I just think other parts of

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Speaker 2: the country they just, you know, the SEC produces more,

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Speaker 2: Midwest produces them. Northeast does I always you know, I

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Speaker 2: just I kind of feel like this college football season,

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited because I was known when I was

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Speaker 2: at ESPN as a college football guy. Then I thought

508
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Speaker 2: the sport got really insular and very southern, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I would say the SEC is the best. But when

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Speaker 2: you're a syndicated talk show host, you have to talk

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Speaker 2: about national sports. I talk a lot of NFL. I'll

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Speaker 2: talk at UFC Fight For about seven to eight, maybe

513
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Speaker 2: ten years college football. Once USC eroded, it felt like

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Speaker 2: the sport was down to three teams, Ohio State and

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Speaker 2: two SEC teams. I actually think Texas this year, Michigan

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Speaker 2: this year in USC can play with anybody. Don't know

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Speaker 2: if they can, but I think they match up. You know,

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Speaker 2: Alex Grinch, the coordinator for USC, has got to prove himself.

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Speaker 2: He's got three NFL bodies up front. They had none

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Speaker 2: last year. So due to the transfer portal, they got

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Speaker 2: three Sunday guys. Because their corners and safeties are fine,

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Speaker 2: they have maybe the best safety in the country, Kaylan Bullock.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is exceptional. They've gone out and gotten NFL

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Speaker 2: bodies on the old line. So I always feel like

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Speaker 2: with a transfer portal, you can fix one side of

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Speaker 2: the football per year. So USC fixed their offense last year,

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Speaker 2: they went and fixed their defense this year. It takes

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Speaker 2: about two years without the transfer portal. It took Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban a third recruiting class to get it rolling right,

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Speaker 2: like you were part of that. Now it takes two years.

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Speaker 2: And I think Brian Kelly first year got the offense

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Speaker 2: kind of figured out. Now he's going to get the

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Speaker 2: defense figured out. So I have Michigan facing LSU of

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Speaker 2: the Championship, and I don't think LSU is the best

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Speaker 2: SEC team. I don't think they're the deepest, but I

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Speaker 2: love the coach, I love the quarterback, and I looked

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Speaker 2: at their schedule and I'm like, I think LSU is gonna.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna, you know it's it's it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a lot of people knocking each other off. I

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Speaker 2: like LSU a lot.

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Speaker 1: If LSU wins the National Championship, what's the headline in

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Speaker 1: the LA Times or wherever your local paper, the Manhattan

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Speaker 1: Beach Post, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it would be a real story because

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly is a Notre Dame and Notre Dame has

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Speaker 2: a big has resonance here and I and I think

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Speaker 2: if they beat a Michigan and it was a competitive game,

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Speaker 2: I think it would be a win for college football.

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Speaker 2: It's SEC winning's not bad. SEC beating Michigan State in

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Speaker 2: the playoff by forty is bad. So if it's LSU

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Speaker 2: thirty five thirty three, I got no problem with that

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Speaker 2: USC losing. I don't. I don't want USC and Sam

553
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Speaker 2: Darnold playing Ohio State and two series in it doesn't

554
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Speaker 2: even look like they're by the same sport. So I

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Speaker 2: don't think the SEC winning is bad. I think them

556
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Speaker 2: dominating and suffocating teams is bad for the sport. So

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Speaker 2: and I don't think we'll see that this. I think

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Speaker 2: Quen yours Cabb, Caleb William the Michigan kid, I think

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Speaker 2: those guys can move the ball in anybody listen Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I thought they outplayed Georgia. I did, I really.

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be hard pressed to push back on that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know all of you.

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Speaker 2: I could yeah, So I think we're in a good spot.

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Speaker 2: I think going forward, the really big brands not in

565
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Speaker 2: the SEC have really good coaches, and I think that's good.

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Speaker 2: I think Sark, you know, you can say what you

567
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Speaker 2: want about him, he can recruit and he can coach offense.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley is very clever. Harbaugh's unorthodox, but more than competent.

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Speaker 2: Daboshweeney's great. So I think we're in a good space

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Speaker 2: right now going forward in college.

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Speaker 1: As long as the FSU and Clemson stay in the ACC.

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Speaker 1: Because you thought it was going to not even catch up.

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Speaker 1: Catch that for a second. What's stopping them? You said,

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Speaker 1: never going to the SEC. What's stopping Clemson in Florida

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Speaker 1: State from maybe going to the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they feel like the Big Ten, so

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Speaker 2: I first of all the Big Ten, and this sounds newdy,

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Speaker 2: but they view themselves as sort of an academic elite conference. Washington, USC,

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Speaker 2: UCLA are considered really elite universities, So was Northwestern, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Penn State. Wisconsin's considered a public ivy. I'm not knocking

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Speaker 2: Florida State, Clemson. Those feel like football powers. One of

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Speaker 2: the things I appreciate about the SEC is they don't

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Speaker 2: lose any sleep. They love their football. They're not you know,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to pretend they're this or that, not

585
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Speaker 2: that universities don't matter, but they're all in on football.

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Speaker 2: It drives the cultural bus and the and the revenue bus.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 2: lived down in Tampa. I covered the Gators. I love

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Speaker 2: the passion. I think the Pac twelve got way too precious.

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Speaker 2: That's why they've unraveled. I mean, Cal football, Cal cares

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00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: more about rugby than football some years, so I can't

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Speaker 2: take them seriously. But I do think the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: would love Notre Dame, and if Notre Dame came in,

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Speaker 2: would consider Stanford. But I think some of their school

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Speaker 2: presidents they view that themselves a certain way. And whether

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Speaker 2: it's snoody or not, you may disagree, but I kind

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Speaker 2: of feel that they think Washington and USC and UCLA

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Speaker 2: fit their academic profile.

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Speaker 1: We've said it before, the only pretentious fan base in

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Speaker 1: the SEC would be Vanderbilt. Everyone else is kind of like, man,

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Speaker 1: we're just happy to be here. Let's win the party, right,

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Speaker 1: Let's win the game when the party. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: But I'm talking my degree at the time, but I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're proud of our football. That's what it is. Man,

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Speaker 1: this has been awesome. This has been a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate you. Brother.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I know three families. In fact, one

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Speaker 2: of my dearest friends, Trace Gallagher at Fox News, dear

609
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Speaker 2: friend for twenty years, his daughter goes to Alabama loves it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is. But Manhattan Beach,

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Speaker 2: California has a lot of kids that went to Bama.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not joking. And my daughter went in a

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Speaker 2: leadership conference years ago to Cape Town, South Africa with

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Speaker 2: about fifteen SEC girls and I loved it, loved the girls,

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Speaker 2: and she, you know, she considered it. She considered going

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Speaker 2: to the South. So it's really interesting. I think there's

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Speaker 2: there's a mystique about the South and country music and

618
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: college football. It's almost mysterious to kids out West, and

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Speaker 2: I think people are very attractive to it. I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of families, you know. I work out at

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Speaker 2: a gym around the corner from my house, and Alabama

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Speaker 2: is a topic all the time. During the football season,

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Speaker 2: A lot of there's a lot of roll tied shirts

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Speaker 2: in my little beachy California, jym So and a lot

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Speaker 2: of that Saban. It's the greatest dynasty ever and it's

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Speaker 2: it's noteworthy, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it is. But and again I

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Speaker 1: lived forty five minutes from Tuscaloosa, so not exactly in

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Speaker 1: the same part of town as you, buddy. But this

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Speaker 1: has been awesome, man, it's a great conversation. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you so much. Love much to do others do it

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Speaker 1: the ball. You appreciate you, guys, and look forward to

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Speaker 1: continue to watch your pod and your show and listen

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Speaker 1: on FS one all that other fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: My friend, yeap man, you been a big hit. You're

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Speaker 2: you're the morning guy, is it?

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Speaker 1: K JOX w j X yeah, w j X so yeah,

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Speaker 1: doing that bad East Coast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the big stick in the morning. And uh,

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Speaker 2: I remember when you were up for that. We were

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Speaker 2: at the volume looking at you and because we were

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Speaker 2: going to bring you on to the volume, and somebody

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Speaker 2: said he's up for a huge morning radio show in

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Speaker 2: the South. And I remember they gave me the call

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Speaker 2: letters and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's the big morning

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Speaker 2: show that's going to be, and I think you made

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Speaker 2: the right choice. I say this all the time. I'm

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Speaker 2: a radio guy at heart. They put me on TV,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not. I don't look like a TV guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm a radio guy. There's nothing like connecting to a

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Speaker 2: radio audience storytelling. It's the very best.

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Speaker 1: It's the best. But you at least have the gift

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Speaker 1: of gab. I have voice for radio or voice for

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Speaker 1: TV or whatever they say, voice for print, face for radio,

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Speaker 1: something along the lines of that. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how it works, but at least you got it good.

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Speaker 1: It's man, I'm just trying to figure it out. Falling

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Speaker 1: your lead bite, well, great seeing you. Appreciate you. Man

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Speaker 1: the volume