1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: up on this Monday edition, we're gonna look back at 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the NFL Combine lots to discuss performances that may or 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: may not have been slightly helped out by new rules 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: at the Combine in Indianapolis. And apparently there's one player 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: at the Combine in Indianapolis that was helped out by 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: a major NFL reporter. 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: We'll get into that for you here. 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: We're also gonna have a conversation about what the plan 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: is in Minnesota, the Vikings out there making moves. 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: We've got a new. 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Candidate for the room that is the quarterback room in Cleveland. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Apparently there's some ties between a top prospect and the 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: new Browns head coach, Todd Mounkin. We're gonna tell you 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: about the latest on the Jimmy Garoppolo run. He's made 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars in his career and 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: may have found himself a new home. And we're gonna 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: have the usual fun stuff in Shenanigans. It's all yours 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: coming up next here. Two pros and a cup of 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Joe on a Monday. Fox Sports Radio. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: That's more I like it. 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And 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: we are rocking and rolling here on this Monday morning. 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: How are we feeling here? 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we only expose who you are with your Musiceah. Yeah, 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: that's pretty judgmental. 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's judgmental music, isn't It's. 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: It's heavy to one side of the aisle. Okay, there 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: you go. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: Now, it's all good, not judge and you just just 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: you know, how's everybody doing? 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: How was your week? 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Here? 45 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Is everybody all good? Good? We're all good here. 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Combine came and went, and that'll do it for the NFL. Combine, 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: although apparently We've got a little bit of a debate 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: going on. 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: Well, what's a little bit of a Carnel Tate, the 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: wide receiver for Ohio State. 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: That's one of the headlines coming out of the combine. 52 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: So Carnel Tate finished within the four point four to 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: five four point four seven range for his forty according 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: to a batch of NFL executives and gms. According to Schefter, 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: but that differed from the official time of four to 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: five two. So I'm trying to figure out where things 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: that's always been a thing, though, got sideways. Schefter posted 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, quote, Ohio State wide receiver Carnel Tate, 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: a potential top ten pick, was timed by several NFL 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: exktives and gms on Saturday with a forty time in 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: the range of four point four or five four point 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: four seven. 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: But the official time is four point five two. Now, well, 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. 65 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: So did Schefter do this for any other players at 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: the combine who ran the forty? 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't recall, and there was a lot that ran it. 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, So let me ask you this, So are 69 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: we actually staying Brennan Thompson, who ran a four to 70 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: two sixth the wide receiver out of Mississippi State. 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: Does this mean that his was probably faster than that? 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying, like, how should we look 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: at the rest of the forty yard dash times? If 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: Adam Schefter is opening up Pandora's box, that apparently the 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: official times aren't all that accurate since some of the 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: teams do their own or most of the teams do 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: their own. H there you go, and yet their times 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: were like half a second faster. 79 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: You'll get like two or three different times, but the 80 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: official time is generally always the slowest of all the 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: times that are recorded. 82 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: I know you think we're being serious, LeVar, but we 83 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: are not. So this segment is more about Adam Schefter 84 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: than anything else. 85 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I I picked up on the 86 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: fact that you said he didn't do it with anyone else, 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: So okay, well go ahead, how about it. 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: That's kind of my general point is as I look 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: at what's all transpired in the past few months, and 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: people need to understand this. You know, Disney bought into 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 4: the ownership of the NFL all right, their media properties. 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: They're working hand in hand in some ways. I would say, 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: you know, the Super Bowl. Since it was NBC's it 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: wasn't really their opportunity to, I guess, shine or potentially 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: reveal what that relationship looks like. But now we have 96 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: one of the first instances where Adam Schefter doing something, which, 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: mind you, I don't recall him really doing before either. 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Like I know he's always reported on different things that 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: have come up with players, But to take a stance 100 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 4: where you're essentially treating about only one player specifically who 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: And again I don't want to get intwo in the 102 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: weeds and all this because you know, as far as 103 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: the forty dash yard dash times go, I remember, do 104 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 4: you guys remember when Tybreek Wohlan ran it, and he 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: actually ran the fastest at that time, but they rolled 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: it back right, they took they made the official time 107 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: actually slower to like a four to two seven four 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: two eight. 109 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: And I know the trainer who is training some of 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: those guys. 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: And by the way, Matt Gates at XPE and him 112 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 4: and Tony Vallani, they have some of the fastest players 113 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 4: every single year who run in these and so it's 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: part of how they make their name. And I remember 115 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: him coming to me and I asked him and said, 116 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: what was the explanation for that? 117 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: And he's like, there really wasn't. 118 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: And they did that with some other players too, where 119 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: the official time actually was, you know, being rolled back 120 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: from what they initially showed, and so maybe that needs 121 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: some sort of explanation. 122 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: But what I kind of see when I. 123 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: When I first saw this was all right, he's doing 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: a favor for the agent, but also he's doing a 125 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: favor for the NFL. Because Carnel Tate's viewed as a 126 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: top ten pick. The only thing that would potentially hold 127 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: him back would be saying, oh, he's not quite explosive 128 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: or fast enough, which if you watch the tape and 129 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: you watch him play, you're not concerned about that. It's 130 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: one of the reasons why I never put stock in 131 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: the combine anyway. But the fact that Schefter would do it, 132 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: it's revealing this to the fact that there's now this 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: relationship between ESPN and the NFL where he's going to 134 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 4: be that mouthpiece. 135 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: To try to make things seem like. 136 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, this is you know, we don't want to 137 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: scare guys off from coming here in the future if 138 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: they happen to run slow. When really he was like 139 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 4: the only guy who ran slow. It was a historical 140 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: year and guys running fast. So God, are the days 141 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: of someone just having a bad start. God are the 142 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: days of anyone like performing bad? Say hey, you know what, 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: I'll run better my pro day. No, we're just gonna 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 4: make excuses or put out tweets like this to try to, 145 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: you know, buddy buddy up with the agent and make 146 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 4: sure that we don't hurt players coming here in the future. Like, 147 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: that's where this is going now. That's unfortunately how the 148 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: combine is. It's not as much suspense as it used 149 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: to be. 150 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: I like it. 151 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: I like I like the phoniness, I like the catering 152 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: to I like it. It's it's one big hodgepodge of 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: brand building. I have the thought process of go do 154 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: the combine, don't put too much. If I'm a player, 155 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm not putting too much into what my performance is. 156 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna do what I need to 157 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: do because the work has already been done. If you're 158 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: outside of my interview, that's it. Outside of my interview. 159 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: If you're gonna judge what I can do, awful what 160 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: I did at the combine and not my body of work. 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: Then that's that's a decision that you gotta make. And 162 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: you weren't meant to draft me, and I wasn't meant 163 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: to be drafted by you. But what I would be 164 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 3: focused in on is making sure that I take full 165 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: advantage of the spotlight and the megaphone that is on 166 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: the NFL combine. This is more of an age and 167 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: the era of building your brand. I mean we hear name, 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: image and likeness at nauseum. For college, it really does 169 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: mean your name and your image and your likeness. So 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: if you're going to the combine, go with a plan, 171 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: have a plan on how you're going to maximize your 172 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: conversations with the media, what you want your message to bring, 173 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: what you wanted to be, all those different things. Because 174 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: to me, that's what this all is about. Brand building. 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: For Adam Schefter like he gets to to get inside information, 176 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: brand build voting for gms or coaches just fall asleep. 177 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: You get to create a different element to how how 178 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: they view you. You know you've you've had that's brand building. 179 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: You've added to your brand. I mean I don't know 180 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: what that is. I mean sometimes superheroes get time Mattress firm. 181 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 182 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: There's always an opportunity to maximize on what you do. 183 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 4: So right, it might not be the coach of the 184 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: Jets anymore, but you know then you have more time, 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: is Mattress. 186 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: But the problem, though, is that if it's clear that 187 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: one of the insiders or reporters has an agenda or 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: is being fed like all of a sudden, it's hard 189 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: to take the event seriously if you know that people 190 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,479 Speaker 1: are filtering information out there to try and make results 191 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: different than what isn't that? 192 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: What isn't that what an insider insider is supposed to 193 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: give you the information that people on the insider giving. 194 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: It's time you can you can you start it and 195 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: stop it. There should be no agenda attached. It is 196 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: what it is. And he's coming out with different times now. 197 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: Because there's always different times there is. Every team keeps 198 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: their own own times. But I would also say for 199 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: them to then come out and not why do not 200 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: give Brent Thompson's hand times? Then if those are probably 201 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: gonna be closer to the record at four two one 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 4: four two two, like somewhere in that ballpark, because that's 203 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: how far off we're talking about the official time was 204 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: to some of the reported handtimes that he had, why 205 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 4: not report that? 206 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's. 207 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: The issue that I have with it is if you're 208 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: Adam Schefter and you're trying to represent ESPN or the 209 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: NFL and you are, let's just call what it is 210 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: like the go to insider, you have an obligation to 211 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: the public too. 212 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: To me, this isn't about brand building. This is kind 213 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: of like where we are right now with our media, 214 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: our news media. 215 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to go into the news media 216 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: venture of that, but I think we all would agree. 217 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on which side they're talking from, 218 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: Like everything's manipulated, everything like there can't ever just be hey, 219 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: this is what his time was. There's a thought that 220 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: some people had them faster on the handtimes. And then 221 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: explain the fact that most teams have scouts, have coaches 222 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: whoever hand timing them to because they want to have 223 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: a database of their own times. And one of the 224 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: reasons they want to have a database of their own 225 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: times is because every single year, the official timer some 226 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: of that stuff could change. And I said to you before, 227 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: guys who are in this industry where they basically train 228 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: these guys for six to eight to ten weeks and 229 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: turn them into track athletes. They are more in two 230 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: with it than anyone. I mean, they're the ones that 231 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: are watching these guys run a preliminary forty and then 232 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: as they train, watching the splits, watching the numbers from then, 233 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: and so they know what these guys can hit. And 234 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: so when they have a series of guys who aren't 235 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: hitting those numbers even though they've been training for the 236 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: past two months to two and a half months, they 237 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: know that there's probably something off with the equipment. Because 238 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: all these guys are highly invested in all this. But 239 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: the point is, like schefter has an obligation, at least 240 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: in my mind, to be able to provide information to 241 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: people in a manner that isn't. 242 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: Going to be manipulated. 243 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, like we as an audience have now grown 244 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 4: accustomed to all these agents feeding these insiders with whatever 245 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: they want to say. I mean, how many times do 246 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: we see a tweet that was like had like a 247 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: copy and paste you know section that. 248 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: Wasn't edited off. Oh still happens. 249 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: And it's crazy to me that like there's no checks 250 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: and balances of this. It's like all right, well, is 251 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: this what's good? I mean, and obviously with sports, so 252 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: we don't take it as seriously as we do with 253 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: other things, but it exists in other realms of our 254 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: life right now. So I looked at that and I 255 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: thought that was that was one of the things that 256 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: stood out to me as far as and I'd love 257 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: to see what the ratings are because I'm sure they're 258 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 4: not hitting what they used to. Maybe with the new 259 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: data and big panel rating system, they'll prop it up somehow, 260 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: but it's losing its luster. It's not what it once was. 261 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: And I think part of that's the fact that you 262 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: just it kind of is what it is, and the 263 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: NFL never really figured out how to, you know, continue 264 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 4: to make this thing grow, and so you know that 265 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: you're you're trying to do all you can with it. 266 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 4: And one of those things is making sure that they 267 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: get the top players to come to the combine and perform. 268 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: And by having Carnel Tates back as agents back, that's 269 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: one way of doing it for the future is guys saying, hey, 270 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: if you go there and even if you don't perform 271 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 4: that great, We'll make sure we got you covered. I mean, 272 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: even and Now, look, maybe this is just Daniel, because 273 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: Daniels are super nice guy, but even the analysis, for 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: the most part, has become super kind. And I'm not 275 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: saying that like Mike Mayock. Mike Mayock and Daniel Jeremi 276 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: are not the same guy obviously, but it seems like 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: even the conversation around the performances are super kind and 278 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 4: kind of soft, and if there's a misthrow, it's well, 279 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: this is the combat. It's hard to get timing down 280 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: with these guys. 281 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: It didn't used to be that way. 282 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: And so I feel like even the conversation around their 283 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: performance has changed as far as how critical guys are 284 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: going to be. 285 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, things that matter now didn't matter 286 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: too much before. 287 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: People's emotions. 288 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all made fun of me, like talking about the 289 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: whole Anthony Richardson thing, But it's real. I'm telling you, 290 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: these kids are they rapped differently, man, They are different people, 291 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: and the culture and the society that is being being 292 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: catered to. 293 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: And being entertained to play out this scenario. You're saying, 294 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: if he just pulled up at the thirty yard line 295 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: of the forty yard dash, they were still talking take 296 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: me out they finally that was an incredible thirty yard dash. 297 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Chef, Chef exactly what I'm saying. It's the greatest thirty 298 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: yard dash of all. 299 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: Because the sensitivit ease, the sensitivities that these young men 300 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: have are also it has to be an adaptive an 301 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: adaptive approach by the agents and the agencies, so there 302 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: in turn going to become touch sensitive and very sensitive 303 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: about how things are handled as well. It's a it's 304 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: a it's a trickle down effect. I'm telling you, these 305 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: dudes are different man, It's a different day and age. 306 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: Me say the quote tough times making tough dudes. 307 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: Tough times make tough dude, or hard times make tough dudes. 308 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: Tough dudes make easier times, easier times make what is 309 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: it make makes soft dudes soft dudes make hard times? 310 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: Repeat the process. It's something like that. 311 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: Maybe we're maybe we're in that cycle somewhere, but we 312 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: might be in the cycle of walk to work. 313 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: We are going to get a lot harder. 314 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: You know, granddad to work or great granddad walk to work. 315 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Granddad drove a caddy to work, dead drove. I don't know, 316 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: a rain drover. I drove a Lamborghini. My son will 317 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: walk to work. Like the whole process. It just it's 318 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: it's kind of soft these days. It's kind of soft. 319 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: It's also very catering, very catering culture. 320 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned you know in other you know, 321 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: news outlets, media or whatever that you know, the agenda, 322 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: the pushing a narrative. 323 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: It's kind of insulting to to a listener. 324 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Or a viewer when they don't want to just give 325 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: you the information and let you sort it out and 326 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: let you figure out which side you fall on or 327 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: what your opinion is. They want to guide you along 328 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: in the process. This is how you should feel about it, 329 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: This is this is why you should feel this way 330 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: about it. No, how about these are just combine times 331 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: and results, and you just give us the information, the 332 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: factual information, and let's just play this down the middle 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: and then we decide moving forward how we feel about 334 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: something and when it comes to this event, and if 335 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: that's basically what it is, it's turned into. 336 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: A TV show. 337 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but I can remember 338 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: when you were drafted, and I can remember watching from 339 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: that side of it and looking at it and going 340 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like a TV show. It felt like 341 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: teams in the league trying to get better, and there 342 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: was a lot of great players like yourselves who were 343 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: providing organizations hope. There was no agenda being pushed, there 344 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: was no like, there was nothing an insider trying to 345 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: get one guy's information out there over somebody else's because 346 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: he's buddy buddy with an agent. It was just a 347 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: draft so that teams could get better and players could 348 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: realize their dreams. 349 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: And now it's a. 350 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: TV show, a three day TV show that moves around 351 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: the country, and that's awesome. But I find it I 352 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: found myself less interested in this combine this year than 353 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: I have in recently. 354 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: You just have to want to be interested, though. You 355 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: got to want to be interested for what you're interested. 356 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: But if it's not on the up and up, why 357 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: would I want to be interested. I mean, there's only 358 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: so much up and up you can get. Okay, you know, 359 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: if you're watching it for a pure entertainment value, if 360 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: a dude jump high, jumped high. 361 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, at least WWE is transparent around about it, like, hey, 362 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: this is what it is. 363 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: Is entertainment, okay, exactly say it is the same thing 364 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: though the NFL is the same thing as the WWE. 365 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: All right, but it shouldn't be. But it is. O 366 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: that's a problem. 367 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: But it isn't a problem because you feel as though 368 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: it should be. You have invested in emotion and what 369 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: you think it should be. That means you've exercised some 370 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: ownership over how you feel about what they're doing. Didn't 371 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: I have a wellness coach speaking all it? Didn't I 372 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: have like a happy coach, a nice coach for the 373 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: Super Bowler this year that they made it a point 374 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: to advertise about like we have a wellness coach or 375 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: whatever and nice, be nice to the people person for 376 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: the just because it was in San Francisco though, like 377 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: what I mean, hey, bro, you know, you know when 378 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: you were having a segment like this, it does make 379 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: you start to think about was it was it intentional 380 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: for the super Bowl to be in San Francisco this year? 381 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: It was a time like that. I remember the Super 382 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: Bowl in New York. It would not have been like that. 383 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: I think you would agree, Yeah, I mean they'd have 384 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: a guy being like get. 385 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Them away, hey, hey shut that up, forget about it, 386 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Go get gay go yeah, go to the DELLI, right, there. 387 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, get out of here, Like listen, I'm just saying, 388 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: and that was maybe a different time in our culture, 389 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: in our society, Like I don't think for two seconds 390 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: that that wasn't a thought process. And where the super 391 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: Bowl was this year and more and more thinking about 392 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: it and the agendas that are are very very front 393 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: of mine, very front and center. You know, the whole 394 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: equality you know, the the letters, the whole l G B, T, 395 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: q R S. Listen, I don't know all the letters, 396 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: but l G l G T, B anyway, the whole, 397 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: the whole agenda of all about the whole agenda of 398 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: all of these different groups not touching it. Hey, listen, 399 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: there are there are cultural implications to not doing things 400 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: the right way. What what are having the back of 401 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: what are having the back of the end zones all 402 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: year and and they continue to do. 403 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: It the back of alments changing. Yeah, it's there is. 404 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: It's like those tweets where something happens, someone tweets something 405 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 4: out it immediately changes the situation. 406 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: There's a culture shift. That's the l G B T 407 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: just put up a hashtag. 408 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: I think, by the way, I don't want to get 409 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: this confused or mixed with the fact that I love 410 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: Carnell Tate. 411 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great receiver in the NFL. 412 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: Figured it in. 413 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: I do care less about his forty yard dashtime because 414 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: I watch him play. I know he can separate. I 415 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: know it can take the top off a defense. I 416 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: know it can get it done. By the way, for 417 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 4: the ones who get it done, Yeah. 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But speaking of Minnesota and the Minnesota Timberwolves, 470 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: over to the Minnesota Vikings, who are making moves. They 471 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: are making moves now. These moves aren't official yet, but 472 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: they have informed a couple of players currently on their 473 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: roster that they will probably most likely not be on 474 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: their roster. 475 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: Very much longer. 476 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Those two would be Aaron Jones, and Javon Hargrave. The 477 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: Vikings have informed both that, barring a trade, they will 478 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: be released later this month. It will free up eighteen 479 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: plus million dollars in cap space that to go along 480 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: with whatever their plan is a quarterback to bring in 481 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: competition aka take the job from JJ McCarthy. The Minnesota 482 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: Vikings appear to be wheeling and dealing thus far out 483 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: of it, out with the GM and in with a 484 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: brand new roster they're hoping with. 485 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: What's interesting about this is, you know, it's not. 486 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: Atypical to see a team, you know, try to have 487 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: some cap savings and restructure the roster where they move 488 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: on from a general manager. So if you recall Quisya 489 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: do Fomensa was fired at the end of January. However, 490 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: they haven't hired to do general manager, have they. 491 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: No, there was somebody who was the INTERM. 492 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: So I believe that their executive vice president, Rob Brazinski 493 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: is actually handling the operations as of now. But what 494 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: makes that interesting is is just how much power now 495 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 4: maybe Kevin O'Connell has, you know. 496 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: That's what it kind of signs to me is as. 497 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 4: Much as this is a move where you're probably going 498 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 4: to do so anyway, I do wonder if you look 499 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 4: at the structure of the Vikings organization where some of 500 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: those players, maybe players that Quisy do Fo Menso spent on, 501 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: and and maybe Kevin O'Connell was saying, hey, man, like 502 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 4: that's not where a spending should be. You know, we 503 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: should be spending in other positions edge rusher, wide receiver dB, 504 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: you know, looking for a quarterback like we missed out 505 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: on Sam Darnold. He just won a Super Bowl at 506 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: the Seahawks. So maybe there were some conversations that were 507 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 4: had that you know, again led to Quissy Adolpho Mensas firing. 508 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: But also now some of these decisions as they're trying 509 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: to restructure their cap and get back to a better 510 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: place to build back up, and some of the names 511 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: rumored to you know, come in there compete Kyler Murray, 512 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: Geno Smith or two. 513 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: That I saw, and I think it would make a 514 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: lot of sense. 515 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: I think every quarterback, by the way, who is looking 516 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 4: at trying to revamp their career or or you know, 517 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: try to improve, you know, from here moving forward and 518 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: kind of grow and get better. It helps to have 519 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, and it sure Seck helps have Justin Jefferson, 520 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 4: So I'm sure that's a number one, one of the 521 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: top spots for a team that you could say they 522 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 4: got jaj McCarthy, But it feels like they're looking for 523 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: something that you could go restart your career again. 524 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to do at at 525 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: the running backs position. I mean, right now, it looks 526 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: as though they have what Jordan Mason that that will 527 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: I guess lead the way and then Tye ty Chandler. 528 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: I think there are bigger issues here with the Vikings 529 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: than what may be perceived outside of it just being 530 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: about JJ McCarthy. I don't know if we've seen and listen, 531 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: I get all of the positive talk you got you 532 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: got to coach that that has done well with multiple 533 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: journeyman quarterbacks, but it just hasn't seemed to work out 534 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: with nine. You just you're coming off of a season 535 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: where it was the poor season for Jordans, I mean 536 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: for Justin's uh, Justin Smith and Justin jeffersonxcuse me, uh? 537 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: And I mean where was Jordan Addison? Did he have 538 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: a good year this year? I'm not sure if he 539 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: had a good. 540 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 2: He missed the UH. I know he was suspended for 541 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: the first part, but that whole fall of sleep outside 542 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: the airport drunk I just set the set the tone 543 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: for the season. 544 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: I just think that I think they slept walk through 545 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: this season, and I don't know. Again, I always think 546 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: back to to what coach Campbell said and speaking of 547 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 3: the lines like listen, you don't never know if you're 548 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 3: ever going to make it back this far again, so 549 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: you try to take advantage of it as best you can. 550 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: I don't know that the Vikings are going to bounce 551 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 3: back or regroup and be a better team. They might 552 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: have had their opportunity where we considered them one of 553 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: the top teams in the league. 554 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: They did really well. 555 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: With Darnold at the helm, and that might have been 556 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: their moment. Again, there's question marks on the center's position. 557 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: There's there's going to be there. They're a little thin 558 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: at the linebackers position. They got some decent adge guys, 559 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: but they they gotta have depth there. I mean there 560 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: there are question marks. Can door Saw return back to 561 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: UH to to the to the you know form that 562 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: he was before his injuries. It's just to me, I 563 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: feel like there's a lot of questions and it's not 564 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: just uh, JJ McCarthy or somebody comes in and fixes it. 565 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure that even if they you know, 566 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray comes in, whatever, man, I'm not sure that 567 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: they return back to being the type of team we 568 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: saw them look like when Darnold was was the starter. 569 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: The thing that makes it tricky to assess the vikings 570 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: is that it's not like they were bad last year. 571 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: I think they won their last five, they finished with 572 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: nine wins. It's not that they were an awful team. 573 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: And yet they're going out making all these moves and 574 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: firing their GM because yeah, it does feel like there's 575 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: sort of a hey, that was a quasy guy, that 576 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: was him, that was his guy, you know, and he's 577 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: got to go, and we're going to now take over 578 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: and kind of move this thing in a different direction. 579 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: And I look at the JJ McCarthy situation, I go, 580 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: I think he might be in the worst spot of 581 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: any starting quarterback in the league, because everybody wants that 582 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: team as far as quarterbacks go, every quarterback available would 583 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: want that team. Yet that team doesn't want JJ McCarthy. 584 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: So they're looking around for an answer outside the building. 585 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: When it was his for the taking, and it feels 586 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: and Kevin O'Connell made the point, and because there was 587 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: this report that came out last year that Diana Rossini said, well, 588 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: they're going to go with JJ McCarthy because they feel 589 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: like they have a three year window to compete, a 590 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: three year window to win a Super Bowl. And Kevin 591 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: O'Connell said, I think at the combine last week something 592 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: along the lines of, yeah, listen, the timelines have changed 593 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, which sounded to me like, yeah, we 594 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: got to find an answer at quarterback and we don't. 595 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: Have one in the building. 596 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: And it sucks he was injured and that's unfortunate, but 597 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: we just don't have an answer there and. 598 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: We're going to go in a different direction. 599 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: I can tell you this much from what I know 600 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 4: that he wasn't the quarterback that they wonted in that 601 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: draft class. 602 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: They they you know, they were looking at Drake May. 603 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: There there's a few guys that they really really liked, 604 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: and they were trying to move heaven and Earth to 605 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: go get them, and he kind of fell to a 606 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: spot where they're like, okay, like we'll take him on. 607 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: But they knew bringing him on there was going to 608 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: be some developmental time needed in order for him to 609 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: be become the player that they thought it maybe could be. 610 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: So I wonder how much then, especially after Sam Darnald's 611 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: year there, if they looked at that and said, again, 612 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 4: going back to the relationship between Kevin O'Connor and quisi 613 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: Udo Famnsa, and this happens a lot of times, but 614 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: you kind of have to connect the dots. Once decisions 615 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: are made and one gets fired, one stays is you know, 616 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: he wasn't supplying Kevin O'Connell what he wanted or listening 617 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 4: to him and maybe giving him, you know, other players, 618 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: and then kind of building a roster that wasn't in 619 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: the vision of what Kevin O'Connell had. Whatever the case 620 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: may be, it sounds like there was a lot of 621 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: frustration watching Donald go win a Super Bowl, watching JJ 622 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: McCarthy struggle and seeing other guys continue to flourish. Drake 623 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: May he was a part of obviously the MVP conversation 624 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: this season. You know, he gets his team to the 625 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: super Bowl, Like I think that, you know, as the 626 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 4: playoffs started to ensue, probably was a breaking point for 627 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: that relationship, as in, like, hey, dude, I told you 628 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: about two guys that I wanted. You didn't get either, 629 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: And now look where they're playing, and imagine them on 630 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: our roster. What our season could have been, given that 631 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 4: we were nine and eight, we weren't necessarily, you know, that. 632 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: Far out of it. 633 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: We could have been right there if we just would 634 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: have gotten a chance to get into the playoffs. So 635 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: I and then look, I'm not sure that Minnesota you know, 636 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 4: beats either the Rams or the Seahawks in this past 637 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 4: year's you know, playoff run. But at the end of 638 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 4: the day, I could see the frustration from Kevin O'Connell 639 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: if that was the disagreement. And oftentimes when you don't 640 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: have one that's overseeing all of it, I mean, he ultimately, 641 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: whatever decision the general manager makes, it has to be 642 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: in the eyes of Kevin O'Connell and what he's trying 643 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: to build and the vision he has for his team. 644 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 4: To me, it's it's never gonna work. 645 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean. 646 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: And also the fact that Kevin O'Connell does have that 647 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: much power. I would be okay with that if I 648 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: was if I was a Vikings fan, knowing like, hey, 649 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: this is they basically chose right, they basically chose all 650 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: right this if this relationship between Questia Dolpa Menza and 651 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, if we've got to pick one, we're gonna 652 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: pick Kevin O'Connell. So it would make sense that he 653 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: would be the guy that would be the main decision maker, 654 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe not by title, but maybe influence on roster decisions 655 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: moving forward. 656 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: And by the way, I think that's fair, right. 657 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got a six thirty two win percentage 658 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: in his first four years as a head coach. He's 659 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: had three or four winning season's been to the playoffs 660 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 4: two of those years, won the division once. 661 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's been everything that I think they'd 662 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: hoped for. 663 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: And I think if you keep supplying him with what 664 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: he wants, I think they look at it and say, yeah, 665 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: we can, like we can do even more. It's I 666 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: think they got to do more though, if he doesn't, 667 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 4: If he doesn't do more this year as the head coach, 668 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 4: I think this is a big year for him. 669 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: And listen, I mean he's on the hot seat if 670 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: they don't win this year. 671 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that he gets out. 672 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm not saying hot seat fired after this cot O. 673 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: No, he's coming back. He's coming back. 674 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: I think this is a critical year for him as 675 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: the head coach of this team. I mean, he's he's 676 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: clearly got a nice record going, he's got a good, 677 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 3: good rapport. People like him, people believe in what he does. 678 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 3: But he hasn't had success in the playoffs, and he's. 679 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: A fuse sup of the combine either. I think that 680 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: helps well. 681 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: I mean some would say he fell asleep and his 682 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 3: appearances in the playoffs jam. I mean he wasn't awake 683 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: sleep at the wheel. All I'm saying is, I think 684 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: this is now that you have made way by getting 685 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: rid of the GM. The poor year falls on the GM, 686 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: as we've all discussed, but now you have to assume 687 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: that now that spotlight goes on to the head coach 688 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: and what the head coach does. And I think that 689 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: this will be imperative for him, very critical for him 690 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: to have successful what he does this year. I don't 691 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: know how you make you if you feel good about 692 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 3: the running back room that you have right now, I 693 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: guess you get rid of Aaron Jones. I like Aaron Jones. 694 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: Maybe he's deteriorating, Maybe he's to the point now where 695 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: he can't be good enough. But I think you got 696 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: to have a good back or two. You gotta have 697 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: a good back or two. Quarterback is a question mark. 698 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: I don't think Whence steps in is the guy. I 699 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 3: don't think that you find a guy that's going to 700 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: make your team that much better in free agency. I 701 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: don't think it's a Kyler Murray that makes your team 702 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: magically better. I just I don't know how he makes 703 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: his team better than what it was. Where do you 704 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: find a center? 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Begin Just searched two Pros FSR 735 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: and subscribe. 736 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes he can't get to everything in the world of 737 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to 738 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 5: bring you. 739 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: In case you missed it. 740 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: Guys, if you been following along on the wild Ride 741 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: of Shylah buff in New Orleans and tripping, yes, stray crash. Yeah, 742 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: he got arrested again. Apparently he said there were three 743 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: guys trying to touch his leg, which led to his reaction. 744 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: He might have thrown down or swung on a couple 745 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: of them, and next thing you know, he gets arrested again. 746 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: I think he just got arrested. 747 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Earlier in the week. But he's at Marti Gras in 748 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans and he's just walking around doing his thing. 749 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's with anybody, just kind of cruising, boozing, assaulting, 750 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: and doing a sit down interview with Channel five in 751 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: New Orleans in which he gave reason as to why 752 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: he always stops and takes pictures and signs autographs for 753 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: his fans, and it goes back to his experience growing 754 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: up a baseball fan. 755 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 8: Remember trying to get Mike Piazza's autograph, You know what 756 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 8: I mean, for my whole life from Mike Piazza. 757 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: Were waiting outside the every day this guy bro so Yeah, 758 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: we used to go to the Dodger games. Big Brothers 759 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: program used to get these tickets out. 760 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 8: You go Dodger game, you know all them dudes would 761 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 8: be sitting in the parking lot. 762 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 2: Br Butler always signed Padello Normo always signed. Mike Piazza, 763 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: just a cold, hot Piazza. You're a bitch, bro. How 764 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: many times do you think he rejected signing up? 765 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: Every day? 766 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 4: Bro? 767 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 8: I did it for I used to go out there 768 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 8: ninety times, probably rejecting me ninety times. So what it 769 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 8: did was, I'm gonna sign them all. So when I 770 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 8: got on, it was like, yo, Mike Piazza, So you 771 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 8: don't turn down any picture never never ever, and unless 772 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 8: I'm with my kid or I'm eating some food. 773 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: I do love how he goes never never, well, not 774 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: unless my kid eating some food clipped? 775 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 4: How many other things did he say from that jackass 776 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 4: like this is one of the if you followed him, 777 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 4: grow up, man, grow up Mike Piazza. 778 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: What fifty seven years old? Will whoop your ass? Oh? God? 779 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 6: What? 780 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: He hell? 781 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: You? 782 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: Piazza? Are you right now? Yes? 783 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 4: What? Seventy pounds on him? 784 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 2: Now? 785 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Obviously Labar is somebody who turns down autographs, some pictures 786 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: all the time. 787 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: How does that read to you? Heya? It does? 788 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: It did teach him a valuable lesson, though, you know, 789 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: he was out there, he was out there ninety times 790 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: and he was getting the cold shoulder, and you know what, 791 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: the guy remembered it. And that's what led to these 792 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: antics in this wild lifestyle that he's got going there 793 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: you go. So now you know, so if anybody wants 794 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: is looking around going, hey, how can I get on 795 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: the good side of a professional athlete? Don't wear him 796 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: out decades later because Deo Nomo signed your bat, your 797 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: souvenir bat, and Mike Piazza didn't, So that would be 798 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: that would be the lesson learned there. 799 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: So shy Leba face to face, I mean. 800 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: Chile, he had he had some other interesting comments there 801 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: that we we cannot play on the air. 802 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 2: I'll just put it this way. Iron Chek would probably 803 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: be a big fan of a message for. 804 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: You. 805 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: Probably a probably be a fan of him. 806 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if guys you saw this, but uh 807 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: Brown Bag Mornings, uh the morning show out here on 808 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: Power one oh six in l A. 809 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 2: Byron Scott was on with the guys and for him to. 810 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: Go, Yeah, he basically just said, yeah, I'm ready for 811 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: Lebron to go. It's time, it's run its course, it's 812 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: worn out its welcome and he's ready for him to 813 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: get up on out of LA. And it just feels 814 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: like everybody's playing nice. We talked about it last week. 815 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: Who knows where he ends up, but it feels like 816 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: everybody out here in LA is ready. 817 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 2: To go weird. Tom, Tom, you know you're good. 818 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: You can go back to Cleveland, take whatever party you 819 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: want back to Cleveland. But it's over here, and it's 820 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: over Johnny, oh boy, Yeah, look man, right off the Cleveland. 821 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 3: Huh. 822 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: That's how it works. 823 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean where like, who else wants him ship me 824 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: off to Cleveland