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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 2: it is time for the Fantasy football focus here on

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Speaker 2: the Drive. Good luck drafting this weekend if you it's

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Speaker 2: coming up here. This a big draft weekend. Yeah, Matt,

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Speaker 2: you have your big draft this We actually have two

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Speaker 2: drafts this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Because we're in Sunday night yep. And then I go

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Speaker 3: away to Deep Creek with my high school buds and

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Speaker 3: we have a good time, but we draft while we're.

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Speaker 2: There, drafting decher. I just want to come down just

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Speaker 2: to like, I'll watch you.

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Speaker 3: Guys draft, right right.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Anyway, so I'm looking here at a piece by

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Speaker 2: Michael Florio on NFL dot Com and he points out

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Speaker 2: the top league winners by position for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three fantasy football season. Okay, so these are not necessarily

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Speaker 2: the best players, right, but guys who will help help you, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you have them, you're gonna be in good shape.

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Speaker 3: So like the opposite side of this corn, I know

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Speaker 3: you and I fell victim to this was if you

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Speaker 3: drafted Kyle Pitts and he's a league loser, und no

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Speaker 3: matter what else you did, all the ESPN, Yahoo leagues

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Speaker 3: out there, NFL dot com, if you drafted him, which

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Speaker 3: was a third round pick, you went to like the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: like twenty percent of them.

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Speaker 2: Somehow I made it in, but it was not easy,

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Speaker 2: Like the rest of my roster was pretty darn good,

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Speaker 2: and I had to be right because you had to

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Speaker 2: run him outo every week.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is, it would almost be better if

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Speaker 3: he got hurt week one then you picked.

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Speaker 2: Because like once every five weeks he'd have like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we had four catches for seventy yards. He's it's coming

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Speaker 2: around and then no, right.

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Speaker 3: Because he looks good, he's getting open, he's running well.

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Speaker 2: Played in Marcus Mariota throw the ball seat over his head. Yeah. Uh. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: so let's take a look here at the league winner.

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Speaker 2: He says. The phrase league winner gets thrown around in

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Speaker 2: fantasy football all the time. To me, it's a player

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Speaker 2: who changes the outlook for your team, like if.

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Speaker 3: You drafted I'm trying to think of some of the

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Speaker 3: opposites of the pits last year, Like I bet Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: Was a oh yeah, eighth round pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know somebody like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets something like that. So he points out,

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Speaker 2: like Cooper Cup in twenty twenty one, that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he blows up Lamar Jackson in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey in twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Lamar was like a tenth round pick. The Yeah, people

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Speaker 3: were a little slow to catch on and right.

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Speaker 2: He was a in the league that we're in. So

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Speaker 2: that year, I was drafting for my son because he

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Speaker 2: couldn't make it any working. So I'm drafting my team

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Speaker 2: and I'm drafting my son's team, and it came down

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Speaker 2: to the last round. I can't remember who the other

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Speaker 2: quarterback was. We both still needed a second quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So you were gonna take one he I was.

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Speaker 2: Gonna take one, and he was gonna take the other one.

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Speaker 2: So I took the other guy and gave him Lamar.

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Speaker 2: That's a good he won the league. Yeah, thanks Dad,

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Speaker 2: that's a league winner.

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Speaker 3: That's the best example of this article. Like that guy

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Speaker 3: could be a league winner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't even get it. I got nothing out

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Speaker 2: of it. I didn't get a pat on the head

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Speaker 2: of thanks no.

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Speaker 3: Buy me a beer? Yeah right, I mean so brings

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Speaker 3: me to a side story or not story, but side thought,

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Speaker 3: especially with quarterbacks, like if it's your second quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Swing from the upside, upside.

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Speaker 3: I don't leave cousins. I don't need you know, Rogers

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Speaker 3: or golf, you know, swing for the fences.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, take one of the young guys and hope you know,

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Speaker 2: or take two of them, or take two if you

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Speaker 2: get a deep bench a quarterback. He lists Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes. That doesn't obvious reasons, but he

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Speaker 2: goes beyond that. Okay, he said, look those if you

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Speaker 2: draft one of those three guys, you're gonna feel really good.

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Speaker 2: A bunch quarterback position obviously, right.

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Speaker 3: If you gotta do it in the second round. So like,

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Speaker 3: if you draft one of those three and they end

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Speaker 3: up quarterback six, you didn't win your league, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean that they didn't. I'll kick the coverage.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't. Lists Justin Herbert next on the list.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the rankings, Herbert's.

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Speaker 3: His ADP is much behind those. Yeah, and I would

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Speaker 2: Right, and then he has Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he's a perfect example. I know we'll

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Speaker 3: fight to him to know.

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Speaker 2: I want nothing to do because he's a potential home run. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I'm looking here on DraftKings. I knew this was

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Speaker 2: coming up. Anthony Richardson's passing yardage this year is over

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Speaker 2: under his twenty eight hundred. Justin Field's rookie year, he

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Speaker 2: threw for twenty two hundred it with seventeen passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many Fields threw for last year.

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Speaker 2: It was more than that.

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Speaker 3: I would think it is three thousand plus.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do people think he's a better passer than

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: And again, we thought about this to no end. But

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Speaker 3: I think he's the perfect example of this article because

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get him a tenth round like taking Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen the second. It's different than taking Richardson in the town.

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I think there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: of nine for twenty fives for one hundred and ten

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Speaker 3: But what if he has ten rushing touchdowns?

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Speaker 2: That's fine. He's better because he's only he's only probably

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Speaker 2: going to have twelve passing touchdowns, you know, right, And

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Speaker 2: if passing touchdowns are only worth like let's say four

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Speaker 2: points in your league, which are leagues out there to

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Speaker 2: do that?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: The quarterback who throws thirty touchdown passes is still going

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Speaker 2: to outscore him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean for the price though, oh I get it

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Speaker 2: for the price, but he is going be higher than

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Speaker 2: that in a lot of leagues, Like I see people

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Speaker 2: tall taking him as their QB one at like QB

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Speaker 3: Was my tenth right now, you can get rich I mean,

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Speaker 3: but that's ahead of like Dak Daniel Jones to uh.

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Speaker 2: And I'd rather have I'd rather I think that's a

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Speaker 2: there's a better chance that Dak leads the league in

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Speaker 2: passing yards this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gone back and forth on those.

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Speaker 2: Then there Anthony Richardson finishes ahead of him in fantasy points.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, because I think the Cowboys aren't going

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Speaker 2: to be his run heavy if I mean, I just

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Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be this year because their

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Speaker 2: lead their lead back is a pass catching back.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm in on the Cowboys, and I'm in on

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Speaker 3: Dak and I've bounced those two back and forth, so

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Speaker 3: that's probably not the best example. But like Richardson goes

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Speaker 3: like where Geno's going, I would much rather roll the

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Speaker 2: I hear you on that Gino is gonna throw.

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Speaker 3: For so many more yards, you know, and he has

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Speaker 3: great receivers.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just hope somebody drafts Anthony Richardson before me

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Speaker 2: and leaves me, so I think that's good. Would you

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Speaker 2: rather Anthony Richardson or Trevor Lawrence?

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Speaker 3: Oh Lawrence? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Watson, Dak and Richardsoner?

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Speaker 3: Where I get foggy and I'll probably end up with

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Speaker 3: none of.

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Speaker 2: Them, Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Is Richardson just ahead of them because a really bad

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna run for seven hundred yards like he

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Speaker 2: did last year. Probably it's not going to be that

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Speaker 2: much different than what Richardson for right, Yeah, but what

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Speaker 2: but he's going to have more passing yard He's good.

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Speaker 2: Who's more likely to have three hundred yard games? Who

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Speaker 2: is Daniel Jones? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But I don't think either one will he had some

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Speaker 3: last year. What Well, here's my question, my conor argument

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Speaker 3: to Daniel Jones. Do you know or have an idea

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Speaker 3: where did Jones end up last year? I bet he

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Speaker 3: was like quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Eight, somewhere in the range. He had thirty two hundred passing.

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Speaker 3: Yards last year, and he had very few passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He had fifteen fifteen.

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Speaker 2: And I think he ran for seven scores, so he

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Speaker 2: ended up with twenty two touchdowns. The over under on

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Speaker 2: Richardson here is twenty eight hundred yards. I'm going under

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Speaker 2: on that all day long. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 2: going on twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what is that the one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: a game or something like that. More than that, that's

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Speaker 3: bad math. Yeah, I might just pulled the calculator real quick.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking here.

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Speaker 3: Just on eight hundred divided by seventeen. They're saying he

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Speaker 3: throws for one sixty five a game. Richardson, justin fields.

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Speaker 2: Justin fields last year threw for twenty two hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's about where.

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Speaker 2: Seven with seventeen touchdowns. Well, I just said twenty eight hundreds.

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Speaker 2: The over under I'm going under.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'll take over on No. No, I

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Speaker 2: If he is not a good passer. I watched him.

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Speaker 2: I watched he every like once every five throws he

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Speaker 2: made a throw last year when I watched him live,

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Speaker 2: and then I watched replays of him or watched the

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Speaker 2: tape of him, like one an out of every five

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Speaker 2: throws is like, oh, that was a good throw, and

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Speaker 2: then the next four he's Luke land New or he's

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Speaker 2: hitting the It's all over the place, but all.

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Speaker 3: All incompletions are the same. I don't care if you

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Speaker 3: miss him by twenty.

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Speaker 2: When you're throwing over the middle of the field, they aren't,

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's much different than Fields a

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Speaker 3: year ago.

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Speaker 2: I think he's much different.

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Speaker 3: Fields was throwing the garbage.

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Speaker 2: Let's remember this is a guy like Fields had started

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Speaker 2: a decent number of games in college.

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Speaker 3: I think Field's a much better passer than Richardson.

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Speaker 2: Richardson played twelve career games in college twelve. I know

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Speaker 2: he threw three hundred and ninety three career passes, three

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven of which were last year. He

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Speaker 2: could be in twelve games last year, he completed fifty

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Speaker 2: three point eight percent of his passes in college.

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Speaker 3: In college I get it. I just think Richardson's rookie

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Speaker 3: year might not be all that different than Fields last

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Speaker 3: year or Jones last thing.

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Speaker 2: It could be vastly different because I don't think I

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Speaker 2: don't like their weapons. I don't like their weapons at all.

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Speaker 3: I think it's okay, it's a lot better what the

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Speaker 3: Bears had last year. Trading for Chase Claypoold. You know

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Speaker 3: he won't have the Fields was an anomaly because he

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Speaker 3: had five eighty yard runs or whatever. I mean, like

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Speaker 3: he won't do that again either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do whatever. Okay, we should never bring

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Speaker 2: we should not. I gotta refine this, Okay, So let's

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Speaker 2: Like two hundred and twenty yards a game.

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Speaker 3: Well that's my theory is if you take the under

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Running back Tony Pollard agreed, agreed, because

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Speaker 3: I'm not in with you. I'm picking five, and if

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Speaker 2: Oh you might not run, he might stagger, but he.

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Speaker 3: Probably't be there. I mean, not like it's a huge

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Speaker 2: His second one is Jamior Gibbs. I don't don't I

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Speaker 3: And forth on him because the neighborhood he's going is

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Speaker 2: The David Montgomery is a real thing.

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Speaker 3: He is a real thing. I mean, obviously PPR is

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Speaker 2: But it's not like Montgomery can't catch the football and

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Speaker 3: I'd say, the little guys like James Cook worries me because.

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Speaker 2: Allen's going to steal all He's next on this list. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: All pass catching backs. I think Paulard will score touchdowns

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Speaker 3: I wish there was better buzz about him, but who knows.

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Speaker 2: But if you remember last year, at this time, nobody

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Speaker 3: He was a nice pickup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and he rushed for twelve hundred yards and

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Speaker 3: Last year. Penny could run for one to fifty and

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Speaker 3: week one without a doubt, and just keep putting them

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Speaker 2: Now, until he doesn't until he gets hurt, which is

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Speaker 3: Who cares.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's min missed nineteen games over the last two seasons,

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Speaker 3: Of carry no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Well, now he's playing besides behind a great offensive line.

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Speaker 3: But brown with weapons on the outside exactly, and they're

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Speaker 3: afraid of hurts keeping the ball. Yeah, he's perfect for

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Speaker 3: this article. Yeah, because he could switch the balance of power.

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Speaker 2: Oh he could. He could be a league winner.

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Speaker 3: And if you don't, if you miss his all.

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Speaker 2: Right, wide receivers, Chris o love I agree with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like Chris all Lovey a lot. Calvin Ridley, I

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Speaker 2: think those guys are. Yeah, you're gonna take them in

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Speaker 2: both could be true wide receiver ones.

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Speaker 2: If you if you're sitting there and you had to

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Speaker 3: Other, lave slightly, slightly he has.

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Speaker 2: There's fewer miles to feed there.

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Speaker 3: He was really good as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: He was he was good. Ridley was really good the

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Speaker 3: I think they're right next to each other in my rights. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little wrong on that.

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Speaker 2: I like Ridley's quarter quarterback better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And people keeping this drives me a little crazy.

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Speaker 3: People keep talking about Ridley like he's Deshaun Watson and

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Speaker 3: that he hasn't played in forever. Yeah, well, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 3: could even practice with his team, right. I mean, Ridley's

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Speaker 3: That's different than being suspended at home, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? It's much different, real quick, Mike, I have

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Speaker 3: a Lave eight eleven, DeVante Smith at twelve, Waddle at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take any one of those, they're all great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think to me, and I don't disagree with you there,

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Speaker 2: I might have Devonte Smith behind those guys, because these

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Speaker 3: Know, but boy, he's really good too. He is like one,

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Speaker 2: The Eagles just run the ball so much, and Waddle

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Speaker 3: No, but and there's no Goddard in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Ridley's going to dominate, you know, target

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Speaker 3: when Allen got.

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Speaker 2: Diggs and lave is also with a defensive coach, who

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Speaker 2: if once they get the lead, it's hand off here,

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Speaker 2: hand off their handf like, and they're playing garbage and

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Speaker 2: they're playing bad teams. Yeah, like they.

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Speaker 3: Probably they could win more games than Jacksonville, even though

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have it both though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he could either one like the third

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Amari Cooper he has in this list. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not in on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm really low on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like Elijah Moore enough and I don't quite trust

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was actually Cooper was wide receiver seventeen last

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Speaker 3: He actually had a much better year than giving credit for.

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Speaker 3: He's just not for me. I don't known him anywhere.

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Speaker 2: The fine, He's got a couple more here, Kadarius Tony.

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Speaker 3: Get the right week and yeah, you can have him.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's the most unreliable guy in the whole league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean the tease is tremendous.

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Speaker 2: From weeks nine through seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Is that when he was a chief.

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Speaker 2: When he was a chief, he averaged three point zero

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Speaker 2: But that's the problem. He's not on the field very much.

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Speaker 3: He's super duper efficient when he's on the field because.

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Speaker 2: Because when he's on the field, they're going to get

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Speaker 2: him the football. But he's not going to be on

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Speaker 2: the field because you're worried about him getting hurt. He's

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Speaker 2: not going to block anybody. You don't want him out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just a total as I was.

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Speaker 2: I was somebody was talking about him on a show

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't do any of the basic route stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like he's he's been in the league for four years

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Speaker 2: and he can't run a slant. Like I'm big, like

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Speaker 2: I've never run I've never been a wide receiver in

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Speaker 3: And he does it wrong each time, Like slant has

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Speaker 3: And if he's a foot off, well it's a pick

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Speaker 3: So one of the funnier I often reference Matt Harmon

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Speaker 3: and his reception, perception, his his Cadarius Tony. Right, it's

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Speaker 3: just like he uses funny words like Willy Nilly just

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Speaker 2: But is Patrick Mahomes gonna trust that?

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Speaker 3: No? I don't think so either, and then he'll get

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Speaker 3: hurt the next week. Yeah, I mean, I want two

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Speaker 3: great games for fantasy.

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Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with nothing.

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Speaker 3: As soon as he got hurt this year, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm done.

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Speaker 2: That's enough. Yeah. He he doesn't play football.

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Speaker 3: Right, he doesn't really play football.

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Speaker 2: He's on the field, he's not playing football though.

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Speaker 3: When he went to Kansas City, I'm like, maybe you

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Speaker 3: get the most out of them. Okay, maybe there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he'll score a highlight reel touchdown and everybody, oh,

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Speaker 2: I got to pick him up. And then then he'll

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Speaker 2: do nothing where he'll get hurt. Boy hamstring. We've had

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Speaker 2: we talked about this guy, Jamison Williams. We brought him

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Speaker 3: I can't draft him because I'm not waiting six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I loved him coming out of school. But is he

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Speaker 3: going to have a trade? Is he Tree Lance? You

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Just like a lot of bad

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Speaker 3: I forgot all about you and your backup in Dallas,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that happened. I think so. I

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Speaker 2: mean nothing usually happened to top ten picks, but goodness, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. I wish his career started a

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Speaker 3: little more soundly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which certainly helped. I love them a tight end. Well,

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, that's cheating.

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Speaker 3: You gotta use the seventh pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: He is, he is a league winner.

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Speaker 3: He's a league win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you I always want to just pair

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Speaker 2: him my home, like, take him in the first round,

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Speaker 2: mahomes in a second and say okay.

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Speaker 3: And we'll just figure the rest.

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Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. And I don't. I never have

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Speaker 2: the guts to do that.

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Speaker 3: But you can't pick put Kelsey in here because yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're buying it his ceiling. If you're buying

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Speaker 3: it his ceiling, he has to hit it to make

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Speaker 2: Darren Waller, Yes, yeah, that's a yes, perfect example of.

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Speaker 3: That getting him much less. So if I told you

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Speaker 3: Kelsey was not tight end one, would you bet that

444
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Speaker 3: it was Waller?

445
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Speaker 2: And I might say, Hawkinson, Yeah, he's got big contract today. Yeah,

446
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 2: they're going to use him.

447
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Speaker 3: But I feel better this is the same question, But

448
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,720
Speaker 3: I feel better that Waller will lead his team in targets. Yeah,

449
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean Hawkinson can't.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to happen. But he could still

451
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Speaker 2: get one hundred and ten targets.

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Speaker 3: And ten touchdowns. Yeah, he's really good.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Kyle Pitts, I think he's a perfect example. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's high variants, but he's still really hard

455
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Speaker 3: to cover and does the Mariota thrown to him. I'm

456
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Speaker 3: not a big riter believer, but I mean his average

457
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 3: depth of the target is extremely high. I don't think Pitts

458
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Speaker 3: is bad. I don't blame him for his troubles.

459
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Speaker 2: Nor do I But the troubles don't that they they're

460
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Speaker 2: they're they have free wallet. Yeah, the troubles are real.

461
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 2: It's not like these are perceived troubles. These are real

462
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Speaker 2: troubles that he has. Yeah, and I don't know that

463
00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,479
Speaker 2: they're fixed.

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Speaker 3: His rookie year, he had the Deonte problem of running

465
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Speaker 3: a lot of routes just not getting touchdowns. I don't

466
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Speaker 3: hold that against guys, but last year was the most frustrating.

467
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Speaker 2: Last year was atrocious.

468
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Speaker 3: Couldn't go like you expected.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe he doesn't get a thousand yards again, but

470
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Speaker 2: maybe he scores five or six touchdowns and make up

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Speaker 2: for it. I mean didn't come close to either.

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Speaker 3: He would get like twenty yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it'd be two catches for twenty yards, or

474
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Speaker 2: he was one catch for eighteen. It's like, oh my god,

475
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: he was a league loser. Yeah. I mean, let's just

476
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Speaker 2: call his stature real quick, and look at these Coyle

477
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Speaker 2: Pits lines.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Oh, probably the way to do it

479
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: is just week the week too. Then he gets hurt,

480
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 3: and again it been better if you got hurt. One.

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Speaker 2: He played ten games last year, he had twenty eight

482
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Speaker 2: catches for three hundred and fifty six yards. Actually, now

483
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Speaker 2: I'm no mathematician here, but I do know that ten games.

484
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Speaker 2: Having twenty eight catches in ten games, when you had

485
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Speaker 2: average two point eight catches per game for thirty five

486
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Speaker 2: point six yards and you scored twice, it.

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Speaker 3: Can't have two or three catch games week after week

488
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: after week.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was awful.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't think that will happen again, and I'll take them.

491
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Speaker 3: But boy, that's it, you know, hold your nose.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, here with that sticker on him. Okay, so here

493
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Speaker 2: it was week one seven? Wait am I getting Yeah?

494
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: Week one seven targets, which just sounds great. Two catches

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Speaker 2: for nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Years were over his head in the seats and right.

497
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Speaker 2: Week two, three targets, same line, two catches for nineteen yards.

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Speaker 3: And then of course you start in week three if

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Speaker 3: you weak them.

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Speaker 2: Week three, eight targets, five catches for eighty seven so

501
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, they got this thing fingers out.

502
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: I remember that was okay.

503
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Speaker 2: That's more like, yeah, that's my guy.

504
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Speaker 3: So that buys him like six more weeks.

505
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: And starting the next week, four targets, one catch for

506
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Speaker 2: twenty five yards. It's like, oh my god, that's what

507
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: was Then he was heard, he didn't miss. He didn't

508
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: play the next game against Tampa, and then comes back three

509
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: catches on three targets for nineteen yards, nineteen being the

510
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Speaker 2: key in the first five games that he played at

511
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Speaker 2: nine teen yards three.

512
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Speaker 3: Times, and unless you're definitely scoring, you get one point,

513
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: you don't even get the second point. Nineteen's twenties better

514
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Speaker 3: than nineteen.

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Speaker 2: You know. He did score in that game and one

516
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Speaker 2: of his two touchdowns. The following week he had five targets.

517
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: He had three catches for nine yards.

518
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Speaker 3: Nine yards, I mean, and with bonkers, his average up

519
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: of target is way downfield. It's way higher than the

520
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: other tight crazy then with nine yards.

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Speaker 2: He comes back in week nine, this is after his

522
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: nine yard game, nine targets, five catches for eighty yards.

523
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: You're thinking, all, okay, in a touchdown.

524
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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, weather the storm.

525
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good, this is good.

526
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Speaker 3: Those two t's games made it even work.

527
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because the next week he comes back seven targets,

528
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Speaker 2: two catches for twenty seven years.

529
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Speaker 3: Twenty seven yards.

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Speaker 2: The next following week eight targets two catches for twenty

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Speaker 2: eight yards.

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Speaker 3: At least he's being targeted. I'm gonna troy him out

533
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: there again.

534
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: He goes five, five targets, three catches for forty three yards,

535
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: and that was it. He did they he did not

536
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Speaker 2: play again. And so in reality, if you drafted Kyle

537
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: Pitts last year, you got twenty eight catches, three usual

538
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: games out of him, because the one game he had

539
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: three catches for nineteen yards, but he scored a touchdown.

540
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: Other than that and then garbage. By the time he

541
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Speaker 3: gets hurt, all the good ones are picked up.

542
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: You got nothing.

543
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing trot now junk, you know, I mean, it.

544
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 2: Was just it was torture.

545
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: It was torture, hurts your body.

546
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just yeah, you had to put him in

547
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: the line. If you hit that button every week and

548
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: it's like oh again and.

549
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: Again, like week three he was great, and it's like, okay, yeah,

550
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: tough start.

551
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and I'm picking up like I have

552
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: Greg Dulcic sitting on my bench, and I'm like, Dulcic

553
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: is out performing him every game, and I'm like, oh,

554
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: I know that. I can't like this is my third

555
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: round draft pick. I can't bench my third round draft

556
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Speaker 2: pick for Greag Docet.

557
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Speaker 3: Right, that's one of the issues. I mean, you go

558
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: big on it, not as much quarterback, but a single position,

559
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Speaker 3: but especially a tight end. If you go all in,

560
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: you're married to that dude, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 3: if Andrews struggles this here, or Kelsey struggle, I mean

562
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Speaker 3: I don't think they will, but they hurt they will.

563
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that that happens here.

564
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: You didn't back them out up with any kind of

565
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: suitable half the time.

566
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Speaker 2: If you draft, you draft Kelsey or Andrews, you're not

567
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: even taking a second.

568
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: Time, right, And it would take a lot to finally

569
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Speaker 3: bench them.

570
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Speaker 2: Oh a lot, a lot, a lot. That's the problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening

572
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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. That was

573
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Speaker 2: the Fantasy Football Focus. Cop pits no cockpits get I

574
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Speaker 2: just shiver every time I say it.

575
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Speaker 3: This time last year, I had him over. He was

576
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Speaker 3: my tight end one over Kelsey. I'm like, I'm just

577
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Speaker 3: waiting there, and.

578
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Speaker 2: You call yourself a fantasy expert.

579
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Speaker 3: I bring it up.

580
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Speaker 2: Anyways, we'll be right back after this.

581
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

582
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

583
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LULLI he is Matt Williamson.

585
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Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts.

586
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh, there some miserable memories. Man, I shouldn't admitted that

587
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: I had.

588
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: Completely forgotten how bad that was.

589
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: It really was, it really really was. I just have

590
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: I can't tell this PTSD now after looking at that again. Yeah,

591
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: I left my Labor Day draft and my buds going,

592
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: we don't even have to play the season. Like this

593
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: draft couldn't have went better. I got pits in the third.

594
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: I got all these guys exactly like I drew it up.

595
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: And it was my worst every year in the whole league.

596
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Speaker 2: But the worst thing is we're in the league together,

597
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: and I sniped him because I knew when you were

598
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna take it.

599
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: Right next to each other, we were going to.

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Speaker 2: Wonder if I don't take him here, Matt's gonna take him.

601
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: It was the third round. I was picking in the

602
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: middle and I was seven or something. You snagged him,

603
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh man, I had to take somebody good.

604
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: It was brutal, though, you're.

605
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Speaker 2: Right, and somehow I made the playoffs. I I mean,

606
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: that was that was work last year working around that.

607
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: It's again, he was the one that kept you out

608
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: of the playoffs with than any draft back.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So, sticking with our NFL dot Com okay theme today,

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Speaker 2: Keegan Abdu, who is in Next Gen Stats Analyst, ranks

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three NFL triplet rankings means quarterback, wide receiver,

612
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: running back, quarterback, receiver running.

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00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: Over like the Chiefs count.

614
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Now, he says, this is how he breaks

615
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: this down. He ranks them. I've ranked the top rusher

616
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Speaker 2: pass catcher from every team in the quarterback, granting thirty

617
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: two points to number one player at each respect a position,

618
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Speaker 2: and then counting down from their quarterbacks being the most

619
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Speaker 2: valuable get ranked by two different perspectives. Whom would I

620
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: want in a one game scenario in the playoffs when

621
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Speaker 2: the windows get tighter and defenses are better quip blah

622
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: blah blah. And then two, which quarterbacks do I think

623
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Speaker 2: will post the best production in twenty twenty three? This

624
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: is more of an indicator and how much how each

625
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: field field generally uses that word until he's not an

626
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: experienced writer, well mesh with his play caller and supporting cast,

627
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 2: then a strict assessment of his underlying talent. Two very

628
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: different scenarios, though the combined quarterback scores the multiplied by

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Speaker 2: one and a half. Since there are two things look.

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Speaker 3: Said, Okay, like you want Golf as a compiler, I'm

631
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: not sure if I want him to lead the final

632
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: drive in the Super Bowl against the Bills where the Patriots,

633
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: as it were, a good example, like Purdy that gay

634
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: is that guy? You know?

635
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so number thirty two, as we do, we all

636
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: start from the bottom up. Count down the Carolina Panthers, Yeah,

637
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, Miles Sanders, Adam Thielen pretty rough, Yeah, Young

638
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: he has ranked at thirtieth, Sanders twenty third, Theland thirty first.

639
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: It's pretty rough. Yeah, I mean it's pretty bad. There's

640
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: not a number one pass catcher there.

641
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: First are the Houston Texans c J. Stroud tied for

642
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: twenty eighth.

643
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how you have Stroud over young Ory.

644
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: The same to me.

645
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: Damian Pierce at twenty, Nico Collins at thirty two.

646
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: I like Nico better than those Panthers.

647
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: Probably like Pierce better than Sanders.

648
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: Why they're kind of clothes.

649
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, at thirty, I don't know how this is.

650
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: This one is thirty. Are the Arizona Cardinals, down nineteen

651
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: spots from last year's rankings. It's Josh Dobbs. He's thirty two.

652
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: Quarterback should be thirty eight.

653
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: He's thirty second. Yeah. The running back is James Connery.

654
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: He gives a thirteen. That's kind better than Damian Pierce.

655
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: Or Sanders for that matter. Yeah, guys, we've heard that's kind.

656
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: The pass catcher Marquise Brown, who ranks thirtieth.

657
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Speaker 3: That's actually a little rough on Brown. I mean he's noticed.

658
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: I mean, like the Panthers will kill for Brown, or

659
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: Houston would kill for Brown. I don't think he's great.

660
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: They should be last. They should be last, especially if

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Speaker 3: Brown's thirty, especially if if the quarterback is anchoring this

662
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: at times one and a half the points. Like, I mean,

663
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for Josh Dobbs like anyone else, but he's

664
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: like the sixtieth best quarterback in the league. I'm not

665
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: even the thirty second.

666
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: I mean the Browns. The Browns had no like, they

667
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: didn't want him. He was on the street last year.

668
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: At this time, he's.

669
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: Been on four teams in a couple of weeks.

670
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: At twenty nine Washington. That's Sam Howe, who ranked type

671
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: for thirtieth. Brian Robinson at twenty eight.

672
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: That hurts.

673
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin at thirteen.

674
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: Not a good exercise for them because Dotson and McLaurin

675
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: are good. But yeah, to pick between, you got to

676
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: cancel one out.

677
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay at twenty eight the Indianapolis Colts. He has Anthony

678
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Richardson at twenty two.

679
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: That's too high.

680
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: That's way too high.

681
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: I mean, shouldn't he be right there with Stroud and Young.

682
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: He might be. He might be thirty one, just ahead

683
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: of Josh Dobbs. Like Okay, by by your by what

684
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: you're saying here, the guy that I want in the

685
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: playoff game. I don't want Anthony Richardson anywhere near a

686
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: playoff game that I got away.

687
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: That would be the only way he justifies it is. Boy,

688
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: I think Richardson would be much better in a playoff

689
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: game than younger Stroud because he's not gonna throw him.

690
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: No, right, Deon Jackson at running back.

691
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: Thirty second, we're not counting Taylor, right, and.

692
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Then Michael Pittman as a pass catcher twenty seventh, they

693
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: should be last, they.

694
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: Should be with the Cardinals. Yeah, they're better than the

695
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: Cardinals barely. I mean, richards I'd much rather have Richardson

696
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: than Dobbs, and Pittman and Brown are the same.

697
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'd much rather. I'd rather Connor better than over.

698
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Deon Jackson's said, right, Deon Jackson might be like fortieth Yeah, yeah, right,

699
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: not even fortieth. I can think of guys. Yeah, he's

700
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: not I mean he's not even a good number two.

701
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: No, No, I didn't even know he was the one

702
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: till right now.

703
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he had some moments last year, but

704
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: he was not good at twenty seven down twenty five

705
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: spots the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

706
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: Well, I guess Brady the Baker hurts a little.

707
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Baker comes in at tied for twenty eighth.

708
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Bare might be better than young Stroud Richardson, Yeah, I mean,

709
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm not a Baker fan at all, but he's not

710
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: an embarrassment.

711
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: Rashad White comes in at twenty seven.

712
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: He should be low.

713
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: Mike Evans at twelve, putting Mike Evans ahead. Terry McLaurin, No,

714
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm not either.

715
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: No, he's probably eighteen to me. Yeah, And the beauty

716
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: of them is they have two good ones. I don't

717
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: think they have a great one.

718
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty six, down two spots the Pittsburgh Steelers.

719
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: That's bonkers.

720
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: He has Kenny Picketts twenty seven, ouch twenty seven.

721
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: So what quarterbacks have we mentioned that are ahead of him? Mentioned?

722
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: Baker? Mayfield's one behind him, Anthony Richardson five spots ahead

723
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 2: of him. Are you out of here? Cotton picking mine,

724
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: Sam Howe att thirty, Josh Dobbs at thirty two, CJ

725
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: Stroud one spot behind him at twenty eight, and then

726
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: at thirtieth was Bryce Young.

727
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: So I'm curious where he puts how do you have

728
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: all these.

729
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Ties at quarterback? By the way, there's only thirty two starters.

730
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Well, I guess because he multiplies him to one point five. Yeah,

731
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: whatever they end up at.

732
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: But you said still, I don't know, Yeah, I don't

733
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: know how. I don't know how Pickett comes in at

734
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 2: twenty seventh.

735
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: No, and I'm putting nausea ahead of like Connor.

736
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: He has nausea at sixteen.

737
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: I think Connor is like twelve, which he was.

738
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Thirteenth, Yeah, thirteen, Deontay Johnson at twenty four.

739
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: That part I don't hate, just because if we're only

740
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: talking about number one receivers, he's not going to be

741
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: in the top twelve.

742
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: No. Michael Pittman's at twenty seven.

743
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: I think they're similar players.

744
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Marquis Brown at thirty. I'm just looking at TV behind me,

745
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: her Nico Collins at thirty two and Adam Thieling at

746
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: thirty one. McLaurin, was it like thirteen?

747
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's fine. But Picket's the one.

748
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: I Picket's the one that kills their rankings because he

749
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't be twenty seventh.

750
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: And really the strength of what the Steeler has is

751
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: Pickens and friar moves.

752
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: And then you know, here's what he says. I'm certainly

753
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: lower than many on Pickett, who's key year production in

754
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two was bolstered by smooth operation in the

755
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: quick game, where he completed plus eight percent higher of

756
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: his passes over expected, which was second best in the NFL.

757
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: So I say the other day, whenever he gets the

758
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: ball out in two point five or less, he was

759
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: really really good.

760
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: When Pickett was forced to hold the ball longer than

761
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: two point five seconds, he threw more than twice as

762
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: many interceptions nine than he did touchdowns four. Okay, but

763
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: again all interceptions are not created equal.

764
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: No. First of all, he was also tremendous when under pressure.

765
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to see more out of Picket working

766
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: in rhythm before I think of him as a long

767
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: term starter. Well, maybe you should watch Maybe you'll watch

768
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: some film instead of just looking at the analytics. Johnson

769
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: is getting overshadowed by the highlight reel acrobatics at George Pickens,

770
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: but he is still the top option in this offense.

771
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: That's true.

772
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Johnson has earned targets at a high rate despite facing

773
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: press coverage on at least thirty percent of his routes

774
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: and each of his four seasons as a pro. Okay,

775
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: that tells me a little something.

776
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Folks love Deontay.

777
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Harris has struggle with efficiency in each of his two

778
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: seasons in the league, but the bruising back should have

779
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: more room to gain some steam behind a revamped offensive

780
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: line in this third year analytics.

781
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: Folks love Deontay, they hate picket, they hate nausey, and

782
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: I think context needs to be mixed in with analytics

783
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: a little bit more.

784
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: You have to watch film. You can't just look at

785
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: the You can't just sit there and look at your

786
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: computer screen and say, oh, this guy stinks yeah, or

787
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: this guy's.

788
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: Good, and you know sort and do it that way.

789
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay. So here's where I run into problem here because

790
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: at twenty five down two spots are the New England Patriots.

791
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: Oh who's the receiver?

792
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: They even mentioned Juju? Okay, come on.

793
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: Mac Jones tied for twenty fourth. I had a picket wrong, wrong,

794
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: Remandre Stevenson at eleven.

795
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: This might infuriate people, but I think Remandre is better

796
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: than nausey. I don't have a problem with that, but

797
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: I can maybe I think he's a pretty good guy.

798
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: I have to look and see who's I have to

799
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: look and see who's who else is Yeah, pass catcher

800
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster twenty eighth.

801
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: It's awful. Most teams, he would be a three without

802
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: a doubt. I mean he wouldn't. He wouldn't start for

803
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 3: many teams in the wager.

804
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: I don't think he would start for the Steelers this year.

805
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: No, I mean he'd fight Alan Robinson for the third spot. Yeah,

806
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean he wouldn't.

807
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: He might fight Calvin Austin for the fourth or fifth spot.

808
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: Right, that's one hundred centri.

809
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: I mean, no offense to Juju, but he runs like me,

810
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: and he's.

811
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: Just lot only and he's not good versus press, and yeah,

812
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: he's got issues.

813
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: At twenty four, down fifteen spots the Green Bay Packers.

814
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: Jordan Love comes in at twenty three.

815
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: See I said this just a couple hours ago.

816
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: That's also behind Anthony Richardson, by the way, which is crazy.

817
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: The two young quarterbacks that I think are going to

818
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: be good quarterbacks this year are Love and Picket. Like,

819
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're going to be Burrow breakout Alan.

820
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

821
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: I have faith that both those guys will be good

822
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: quarterbacks this year, so putting love and picket together, I

823
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: would do that too, but the receivers.

824
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: But love and picket aren't they gather here?

825
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Right? Okay, they're not.

826
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: Love is at twenty three. Pickets at what twenty When

827
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: I say twenty seven to twenty eight.

828
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's too big a gap and nausey to me.

829
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: Is similar to Jones. I might have him two spots

830
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: behind him.

831
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: He has a mearon Jones ranked ninth.

832
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: Time, but there were number one receivers.

833
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: Christian Watson at twenty nine.

834
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: This is a lot unproven. I'm a Watson guy, but

835
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: there's not much bottom work there.

836
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty three, up two spots the Bears.

837
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: No more goes a long way. But he's not a superstar.

838
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: He's not as good as like McLaury.

839
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: So he's got justin Fields at eighteen.

840
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: I would have Picket over Fields.

841
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: Khalil Herbert at twenty five.

842
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: I'm a Herbert fan.

843
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: DJ Moore at twenty.

844
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: How that adds up to being that high? But okay,

845
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: I get Fields is eighteen. He doesn't complete any passes.

846
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: Obviously, he's putting a high emphasis on the running quarterbacks, and.

847
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: I get that part of being hard to play against

848
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: in the playoffs dig preference.

849
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: That then completely ignores the fact that Kenny Pickett in

850
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: terms of running, was like in the top ten yards

851
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: per game in the games he started. He doesn't run

852
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: like fields, No, not like that, but not many do.

853
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: But there isn't. I mean you talk about not playing

854
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: in time and yeah, I mean some of the Field's

855
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: numbers as a passer, the sacks he takes righting.

856
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another one that just drives me bonkers.

857
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: At twenty two, up five spots the Falcons des Been,

858
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: Ridder is twenty six, Kenny Pickett is twenty seven.

859
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: That's bonkers.

860
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: That's that's insane. That completely makes you look like a moron.

861
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, I'm a fan. I love London, but Riddle

862
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: to me is like thirtieth.

863
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: He has Bijon ranked fourth.

864
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: I don't I won't fight that.

865
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: London ranked twenty first, which twenty first, which is ahead

866
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: of Deontay Johnson.

867
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: I think gonna say neighborhood like I think I think.

868
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: Deontay and DJ Moore should be right next to each other.

869
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: M hmm.

870
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: I think London's on condor.

871
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: I think I think Moore's better over all, but I

872
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: can't have a guy who's I mean quite frankly. I

873
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: mean London ran into some of the Kyle Pitts stuff

874
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: last year.

875
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Yeah, I don't blame him for

876
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: his numbers won't reflect how good his tape is. But right,

877
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: that's why I mean Rider to me would be much.

878
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Low production does matter, at least it should does it does.

879
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: At twenty one the Denver Broncos.

880
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: Oh, where's Wilson?

881
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: Fourteenth?

882
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: No, I mean fourteen If he's a fourteenth best five.

883
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Years ago he was a fourteen you know, come on.

884
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: Sean Payton should win Coach of the Year if he's

885
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: a fourteenth best quarterback this year.

886
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Javonte Williams comes in at twenty one. Courtland Sutton at

887
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: twenty six.

888
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: Rises not Judy. I know he's hurt, but I don't

889
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: like that. I don't think they have a number one receiver, No,

890
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: I really don't.

891
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: At twenty up ten spots to Giants.

892
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: Barkley, I guess carries a lot fift Okay, Daniel is nineteenth.

893
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: That's too nice to him.

894
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: Darren Waller is twenty fifth.

895
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: No. One with Waller I guess that makes some sense.

896
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: He should preat twenty fifth. Yeah, he's not as good

897
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: as Deontay or DJ Moore. You know.

898
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: At nineteen up three spots the Browns. Chub is strong,

899
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: Chub is number one running backs. Cooper's no slouch, Mariy

900
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: Cooper's twenty three. Where do you put Watson twenty one?

901
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: He is Deshaun Watson?

902
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how you drank Watson. I can't

903
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: give him a hard time.

904
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: I would largely base it on what I saw last

905
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: year really bad.

906
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, or the year before when you saw nothing, or

907
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: the year before when you saw nothing.

908
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: At sixteen tied for sixteenth down twelve spots the Raiders.

909
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: This favors them better than they should because they're back

910
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: when Crazy and Adam's a star.

911
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: Garoppolo comes in tied for twenty fourth. Among quarterbacks, that's

912
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: where he is. Josh Jacobs seventh, DeVante Adams is second.

913
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: If you gave me, gave me. If the Raiders said

914
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: we're going to swap quarterbacks this year and this year

915
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: you can have Kenny Pickett back. At the end of

916
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: the year, you think you've got us a really good

917
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: p roster. This year.

918
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: You want Jimmy to go over the top, we'll lend

919
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: them to you. Yeah, just let us borrow picket.

920
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it.

921
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't either. I wouldn't even consider.

922
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: It, wouldn't go I'd laugh at them.

923
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, would even consider it. I'll take DeVante Adams

924
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: off their hands.

925
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would do that, okay. Yeah. Tied for sixteenth

926
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: up twelve spots the Lions Jared Goff.

927
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: Sixteenth, Saint Brown Strong.

928
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: David Montgomery seventeenth, Almon Ross Saint Brown fourteenth.

929
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm I can fight that. That's fine.

930
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: Tied for sixteenth down eleven spots are the Rams.

931
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's all they got.

932
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: Matthews Matthew Stafford twelfth, I don't know if he still is,

933
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: cam Akers twenty ninth, and Cooper Cup seven.

934
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they have nothing else.

935
00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: Nothing else. At fifteen up fourteen spots the Seahawks. You

936
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: know Smith eleventh.

937
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: After last year. I guess he belongs in that Stafford neighborhood.

938
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Kenneth game Well nineteenth, DK Metcalf, I'm sorry, Kenneth Walker.

939
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: Oh ke Kenneth Walker nineteenth, DK Metcalf nineteenth.

940
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: Lockett maybe should be ahead of them, but okay, okay.

941
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: At fourteen, the forty nine.

942
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: Ers, me, McCaffrey's probably one, he's two, Chubb was one,

943
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: tub was.

944
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: One, Deebo Samuel eleventh, brock Purty twentieth. Get out of

945
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: here with that stuff.

946
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: I can't do that.

947
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna tumble that all day.

948
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: Longah, I'm putting love and pick it ahead of party. Yeah,

949
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: just of guys that are in the same genre of

950
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: their career.

951
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Dolphins.

952
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: Their running backs have to be last to us, second last.

953
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: It's thirteenth, Raheem mostered is twenty sixth.

954
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean i'd probably be lower, but tyreek Hill third, okay.

955
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: Twelfth is the Titans.

956
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Henry's going to be high.

957
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: This is where I'm gonna really, I'm gonna lose my

958
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: mind here. Ryan Tannehill seventeenth. Yeah, this is not twenty nineteen.

959
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: That's like Wilson fifteen.

960
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, come on, man, update your rank. Don't

961
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: look at the careers as a whole, look at what

962
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: they Yeah, come on, watch some film. Derreck Henry third,

963
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins fifteenth. Yeah, I don't know if I don't

964
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: even know if he's that anymore.

965
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: If he's fifteenth this year, they would take it.

966
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: They'd be very happy.

967
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: That would be.

968
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. At eleven, the Vikings, sure, Kirk Cousins tenth, Jefferson's won,

969
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: and Alexander Madison thirty first.

970
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a little harsh.

971
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: I'd put him ahead of I mean, he'd be twenty fifth.

972
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: I'd put him ahead of Raheem Moster, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

973
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: and then DeAndre Hopp I'm sorry, Jefferson's won. The Ravens

974
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: come in at ten up fourth party high Lamar Is

975
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: tied for fourth. JK. Dobbins twenty fourth. That's probably right,

976
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews seventeen.

977
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: I won't fight that. I think that's where they all belong.

978
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: Okay, the Saints are ninth up ninth spots, I'm gonna

979
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: fight that. Derek carr Is fourteenth, fine, Alvin Kamara sixth, No, No,

980
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: he's not that guy anymore anymore. And then Chris Alave tenth.

981
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: It's impressive, but I don't think it'd be I don't

982
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 3: know if he's quite there yet, right Like Saint Brown

983
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: I think was like fifteen. Yeah, they that deserve that

984
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: big a gap in those two. Yeah.

985
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: The Eagles are in eight are yeah, eighth, Hurts his ninth.

986
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: I respect that. Rashad Penny twenty second, and AJ Brown sixth.

987
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: A J. Brown is sixth. I'm fine with that too.

988
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: The Jets come in at seven, up twenty five spots.

989
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: They were dead last last year. You got the Aaron

990
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: Rodgers is for seventh, Bresee Hall tenth. It's a very

991
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: very small sample.

992
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: He didn't play very much.

993
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson's sixteenth.

994
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean he's I don't know if a Lave

995
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 3: is that much noticeable ahead of him.

996
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Jacksonville is six, that's up twenty spots, Trevor Lawrence sixth,

997
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: Travis atn fourteenth, that's too rich, that's too rich, and

998
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: then Calvin Ridley eighteenth.

999
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: I might even have meyer.

1000
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: Dallas comes in at five. Dak Prescott is tied for seven,

1001
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard fifteen, Ceedee Lamb number nine.

1002
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: Solid. I mean they're all top five ish guy, our

1003
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: top ten guys.

1004
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: The Chargers come in at four. Justin Herbert is third,

1005
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: Austin Ekelar nine, and Keenan Allen twenty second.

1006
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: Let's first step back, but.

1007
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills come in at three. Josh Allen number two,

1008
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: James Cook thirtieth, and Stefan Diggs fifth.

1009
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean running back has to drag you down.

1010
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: Chiefs are number two.

1011
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: Their running back has to be low, though.

1012
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: You'd be surprised. Patrick Mahomes number one, all right, Travis

1013
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: Kelcey number eight. Pass catchers maybe even have him higher,

1014
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco eighteenth. No, that's not that's nuts. And then

1015
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: the Bengals are number one. You're not going to like

1016
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: this either. Burrow is fourth, Chases fourth, Mixing is twelfth.

1017
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean I might have Dobbins ahead

1018
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: of Mixing. I mean, like, I think that's the kind

1019
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: of neighbor.

1020
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: That he should be in, not twelfth. Anyways, we're overdue

1021
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: for a break. But that was the triple at rankings. Uh.

1022
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: The Steelers way too low on that. They were very

1023
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: much again fitting completely disrespected there by. Who is that writer,

1024
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Keegan Abdu? Keegan Abdu the picture They don't even have

1025
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: a picture of him on here yet, so he must

1026
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: be new. You're new here. Anyways, We're gonna take a break.

1027
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully. We'll be

1028
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: back here on the drive to wrap up the show

1029
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: right after this.

1030
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

1031
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

1032
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

1033
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson and

1034
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: this is a Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt Zach Taylor.

1035
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was back at practice yesterday that first one, right, yeah,

1036
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: but Taylor still not committing to Joe Burrow starting in

1037
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: week one, said he's just taking it day to day

1038
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: with Burrow.

1039
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: I think that's what you have to do. I mean,

1040
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: that's kind of what we've been expecting. It's a little frightening.

1041
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: Missed all of training camp basically if you remember he

1042
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: hurt the first day of camp.

1043
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: Was the first day camp. Yeah, the first episode of

1044
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 3: the Drive or whatever.

1045
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had just reported the day before that was

1046
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: their first practice. He goes out there and I.

1047
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: Think he went off on a cart and people thought

1048
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: it might be an achilles, right, you know, career in

1049
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: a season ending.

1050
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: And if you remember or the video of that, he

1051
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: already had a rap on that leg, so it was

1052
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: something that was already bothering him.

1053
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: He either got aggravated or went out there.

1054
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: And aggravated something that was already bothering some that's I mean,

1055
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: it's a big deal.

1056
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean, letting Simeon go I thought was a positive indicator.

1057
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: But he still hadn't seen the practice field yet, Right,

1058
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: let's go out there and do football stuff, let alone

1059
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: getting hit.

1060
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: They met like the other guy better than they may

1061
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: have come to the realization that Simeon stage enough.

1062
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: Right, and maybe that's all that is. He's not an

1063
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback, So get him out of here.

1064
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that they're out of the woods

1065
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: yet with this Burrow thing.

1066
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: I don't think so either.

1067
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he may play in week one, he may

1068
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: reinjurre that thing. In week three.

1069
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him do unnatural movements, you know,

1070
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: not the stuff you practice and going through bag.

1071
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: Because you're gonna like, yeah, just or just drop it

1072
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: back and standing there and throwing the football. That it's

1073
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: a lot different because if you remember he hurt that

1074
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: he was scrambling out to his right and he went

1075
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: to throw the football and that's when he pulled up

1076
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: with the with the injury.

1077
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: I didn't remember the video, but okay, it was a

1078
00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: rollout to.

1079
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: The right, he'd let go the ball and immediately grabbed.

1080
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see that kind of stuff. Yeah, you know

1081
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: as a runner or someone's dragging you down, you know,

1082
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: like Roethlisberger asks, you know, shrugging guys off that kind

1083
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: of stuff because you're gonna take hits and you put

1084
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: a lot of stress on that that plant foot, it's

1085
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: his back foot.

1086
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Cooper cup day to day after a setback

1087
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: with his hamstring.

1088
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: They got bad news like feen minutes ago.

1089
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been dealing with that the entire preseason here, and.

1090
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: I mean he's the only show in town for them.

1091
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: It's he's not as young as you think. He came

1092
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: in the league, a little older. He's coming off some injuries.

1093
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying's career is over, but the

1094
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: best maybe behind that guy. Yeah, that's a that's a

1095
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't like the sound of that.

1096
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: No. I mean, when you start having those soft tissue

1097
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: injuries over and over again again, those things don't get better.

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Speaker 3: He's a big, physical slot that takes a pounding and

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00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: has a you know, a ton of snaps and a

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00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: lot of hits, and you know he's a. They actually

1101
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: use him as a lead blocker a lot. Yeah, he

1102
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 3: does not as a normal wide receiver. Life.

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00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: The Patriots claimed Matt Correll off waivers. Okay, that makes sense,

1104
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: that makes sense. You know he did I think he

1105
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: was a first round guy last year? No? No, did

1106
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: I think? Did I think he was better than Bailey ZAPPI?

1107
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, get him a new environment. He had no

1108
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: chance to succeed in Carolina, no, you know? So, yeah,

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00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: that's cool.

1110
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: In fact, he got hurt, didn't he He missed all

1111
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: the last season and then they went out and drafted

1112
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: another guy in the first round.

1113
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: And okay, yeah, I mean they went through a bunch

1114
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks last year and he wasn't one of them.

1115
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: He just never had an opportunity. I don't love him,

1116
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: but I'll take him over his zappy year, you know,

1117
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 3: try to revive his career.

1118
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Browns have named Deshaun Watson one of their

1119
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: five team captains.

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00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: There's not what you're supposed to do, though.

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00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: That's massaging the votes a little bit there, I think

1122
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: by Kevin Stefanski quite potentially because I saw Anthony Richardson

1123
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 2: also named a captain in Indianapolis.

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00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't ever put I don't even notice those.

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00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: Things I see I do, and I think sometimes remember

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00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: Ben wasn't a captain, Like that's I'm saying. I think

1127
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: if you have a strong roster, you don't don't put that. Okay,

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00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: with with Watson, I get it, he's a veteran quarterback.

1129
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: He has to be a you know, a team captain.

1130
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: If it's not, it's a story.

1131
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: With Richardson, I think you're kind of you're putting the

1132
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: cart before the horse a little bit. Let the forest

1133
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: bucker do it. Let what Leonard shack Leonard do it?

1134
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: You know the guys like yeah, guys like that, who

1135
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: are you know, as you're saying, and then let him

1136
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: grow into it. He doesn't have to be that guy.

1137
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: They stroud, Hey, young, you don't. You're not the captain

1138
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: just because you got drafted.

1139
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: We got yeah, we got some other you're yes, you're

1140
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback and there's some leadership things that go with that.

1141
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: But you you're saying, I think it puts more. I

1142
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: think it puts undue pressure on the kid. And because

1143
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: what happens when he falls on his face and then

1144
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: he's the team captain for the rest of the year,

1145
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: and let's say they go to to uh Gardner Minshew

1146
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: for a few games, just to give him some time

1147
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: to step back.

1148
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 3: Well, then Richardson.

1149
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: Richardson's still going out for the coin flip every game.

1150
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: But it was the Steelers that with Mitch Trubisky last year,

1151
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: and at times you felt awkward for Mitch because he's

1152
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: still that's the only time you saw him on the

1153
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: field was when he went on and got the coin flip.

1154
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know, I hear what you're saying. Yeah,

1155
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: I think you're right about that is And plus everyone

1156
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: the locker rooms like, we just gave it to him.

1157
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: He's an early pick.

1158
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: Well they made only I mean again, I think coaches

1159
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 2: massage those things.

1160
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes they just got given to him. Yea, because he's

1161
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: an early pick.

1162
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: Like did you earn it?

1163
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1164
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: Did you really earn it?

1165
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: Have the Ryan Kelly and Quinton Nelson.

1166
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if they didn't named Gardner Minshew one of

1167
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: their captains, I'm like, oh, I get that. I mean,

1168
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: he's he's been.

1169
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: Around the back seat mentor being a good you know,

1170
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: but they could have made.

1171
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: Could have easily get Hey Nelon, you know, Quentin Nelson,

1172
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 2: you're the Yeah, you're you're a the offensive team captain.

1173
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the best guy. You've been trustworthy. Yeah, you're sorry. Yeah,

1174
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: I hear you're saying, Watson.

1175
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: They have to Watson, they get they Yeah, but I

1176
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: don't know that it's the best. You know, where's he

1177
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: leading you to the massage parlor?

1178
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: I mean there's other options. Yeah, I mean absolutely, It's

1179
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: not like he's nothing wrong.

1180
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: Again, you don't have to to do those kind of things.

1181
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: Chase Young, See, I have a set back still, he's

1182
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: dealing with a stinger. It's always something that has him

1183
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: questionable for the opener a stinger, those usually don't last

1184
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: all that. I mean, So what a stinger is is

1185
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: you get hit and your nerve goes dead in your shoulder,

1186
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: your arm, whatever. It usually goes away pretty quickly.

1187
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: Though. Well you guys come back in the game or whatever.

1188
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 3: They don't linger.

1189
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: So this might it has to be something a little

1190
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: bit more than just a quote unquote garden variety stinger.

1191
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 3: Stinger is a really generic term. Yeah, I'm sure people

1192
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: in the medical community are like, it's not a stinger.

1193
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: That made up word.

1194
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning his last year must have had a stinger

1195
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: all year long because he couldn't feel the fingers on

1196
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 2: the outside of the seats.

1197
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: Young's another one. A couple of these guys, Jameson Williams

1198
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: who we keep talking about, Trey Lance, like get out

1199
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: of your own way, you know.

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00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to think that three months ago people were say, hey,

1201
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers should trade for Chase Young. Yeah, come on,

1202
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: come on, never never happening, Which never happening, Matt. That's

1203
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: going to do it for the show today. All Right,

1204
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow with our extravaganza. We'll take a

1205
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Speaker 2: look at the whole league. We'll start off with the

1206
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Speaker 2: AFC and then we'll work our way over to the NFC,

1207
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Speaker 2: have our Super Bowl picks, all that good stuff. But

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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our show today. So

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Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for justin here on site

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Speaker 2: keeping us on the air. I am Dale Lelly. We

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this edition of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.