1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steele. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan, a 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Kansas man, was shot and killed last week after his 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: dog accidentally set off a rifle in the back seat 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: of his truck. Thirty year old Joseph Austin Smith was 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: driving down a road in Sumner County with his dog, 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: hunting gear and a rifle stowed in the back seat. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: At some point during the drive, the dog stepped on 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: the rifle's trigger in a single round was fired through 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: the seat into Smith's back. Medical professionals administered first aid 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: of the scene, but Smith was killed instantly. If this 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: story sounds familiar, well there's a reason. We recently covered 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: the story of another man in Turkey who was shot 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving weekend when his dog stepped on a shotgun. 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: In two thousand eighteen, and New Mexico man was shot when, 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: like Smith, he left his dog in a loaded rifle 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: in the back seat of his truck. That same year, 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: another man was shot by his dog in Iowa. He 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: had a handgun holstered in a belly band, and the 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: gun went off when his dog jumped on his stomach. 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: In two thousand fifteen, a dog with the unfortunate name 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: of Trigger accidentally shot his owner in the foot after 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: she left a loaded shotgun on the ground with the 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: safety off. What does all this mean. It's not that 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: the dogs are revolting. I can say for sure that 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: safe gun handling does not stop when he set a 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: gun down. Best practice, open the action. If you're going 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: to be out of contact of the shotgun, always have 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: the safety on. This is basic, basic stuff. We all 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: get complacent, which is why you need to use your 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: adult communication skills. And I'm talking to you like your children, okay, 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: because this is stuff that we all need to do 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: every single time. Yeah, we're all big adults. But guess what, 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter when the gun goes off, because you 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: all have that big look on your face like you're 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: a lost child in the woods all of a sudden. 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: So let's zone in and say, hey, just so you 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: know this gun is safe. Actions open. I like to 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: wedge a shotgun shell in the case with shotguns, so 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: it's sticking out of the action. So it's visibly inoperable, 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: will not fire? Okay, suggest you do the same and 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: then ask your hunting partner is that gun unloaded? That's 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: totally appropriate. I don't care how old you are, how 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: many days do you have in the field, how experienced 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: your hunting partner is, ask tell you right now. If 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: they get flustered by you asking, they haven't hunted as 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: much as they say they have. If you leave those 50 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: actions open, the worst case scenario when a dog or 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: a it, or you or a buddy or whoever tips 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: something over in the blind is you're gonna have to 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: do some cleaning of the gun, which is much better 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: than cleaning the other stuff that could happen in the 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: cases we just mentioned. This week, we've got a very 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: special episode with legislative coverage. But first I want to 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: tell you about my week old snort. Akus did a 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: great job in the high desert agricultural fields above the 59 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Snake River picking up Canada geese. Our buddy Brad Leone 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: joined us. Alright, so today we're making some mustard from scratch. 61 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Brad was on snorts first real deal serious pheasant hunt 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: in South Dakota a few years ago, so it was 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: a fun reunion. We put out a lot of decoys, 64 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: the birds cooperated and happy to report that both Brad 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: and I shot pretty darn well. I've been experimenting with 66 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: some new choke tubes and shot size combinations. Carlson's bone 67 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Buster extended range choke with Federal three inch number four 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: bismuth has really impressed me. It's like a magical combination. 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: I would say nine of my birds have been dead 70 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: on impact, and by the time the dog brings back 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: the other five percent their heads hanging pretty low too. 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: On top of that, does not seem to tear up 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: the birds. Every once in a while you get some 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: real trauma, but for the most part, dead bird, beautiful meat. 75 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: But what was even more impressive is how noticeably happy 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: the little snort dog is when retrieving big Canada geese. 77 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: That little girl has an extra gear when its honker time. 78 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Super fun to watch and you will be able to 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: see this for yourself on a future episode at the 80 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Meat Eater dot com. Be sure to check out my 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: buddy Brad's new YouTube channel, brad leyone Local Legends and 82 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: Making It by clicking on the link in his Instagram 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: bio or searching brad Leoni on the YouTube machine. If 84 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: you don't know this lanky good timer, you should. He 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: can sling a shotgun and make a fantastic Canada goose 86 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: breast great hunt in a great way to end the 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: general bird hunting season. Moving on to another packed legislative desk, 88 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: breathe deeply, Exhale long and slow, as if through the 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: straw reduced that heart rate, and prepared to inhale knowledge. 90 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: In North Dakota, HB one three seven seven would allow 91 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: party hunting for deer. This is not some kind of 92 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: frat house deer camp mash up. Firing a gun while 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: intoxicated is still very illegal and very unsafe. Instead, this 94 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: bill would allow a party of ten or fewer individuals 95 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: to take as many deer as the number of valid 96 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: deer licenses in the party. Each person must carry a 97 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: valid combination license, but it would no longer be a 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: one hunter, one dear situation. This bill has been referred 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: to the Energy and Natural Resources Committee. Vermonters have several 100 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: bills to consider this year, one of which would allow 101 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: landowners to prohibit hunting and fishing by painting purple paint 102 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: markings eight inches high and two inches wide. Like many 103 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: Northeastern states, Vermont allows hunters to access private property unless 104 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: the landowner posts new signs each year expressly prohibiting access. 105 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Listener Ben McKinney wrote in with his perspective, which was 106 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: giving landowners the easy option of permanently marking their properties 107 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: with purple paint could mean less access for hunters. According 108 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: to Ben, quote, the idea of people painting their trees 109 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: purple to permanently keep people off is ridiculous. This screams 110 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: flat lander or out of state. And indeed much of 111 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: our legislature is made up of transplants who don't respect 112 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: our traditions. Holy cats, Ben, do I feel you there, 113 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: just like you looked into my heart here in Montana. Now, 114 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: if you've vermonts or anybody who likes to go up 115 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: and hound hunt or partridge hunt in Vermont, want to 116 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: weigh in on this bill, The number is S twenty two. 117 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: We'll have this at the Ask cal at the meteor 118 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: dot com page. If you're driving, you know, and you 119 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: want to be safe. Over in Texas, the legislature is 120 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: considering a raft of gun related bills this session in 121 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: the wake of the mass murder in val day last year. 122 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: These include bills to raise the age of firearms sales 123 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: to one banned most private gun sales, ban assault weapons, 124 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: impose a three day waiting period, and tax assault weapons 125 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: by one thousand percent. It's unlikely the deep red legislature 126 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: will pass much in the way of gun control, but 127 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: you loan Star State, your residents should still pay attention. 128 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: For links to the bills and how to contact your representatives, 129 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: check out the meat eater dot com forward slash Cow. 130 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee House Bill to six five would prohibit the Tennessee 131 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Wildlife Resource Agency from banning the importation of an animal 132 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: carcass if importation of that carcass is otherwise permitted under 133 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: state and federal law. This bill is aimed at restrictions 134 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: from the Tennessee Wildlife Resource Agency on importation of hole 135 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: deer carcasses from states with confirmed cw D cases. Hunters 136 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: can still import meat and antlers from out of state, 137 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: but carcasses have to be processed according to agency requirements. 138 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: This bill would remove decision making power from the agency 139 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: and give it to the state legislature. In South Carolina, 140 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: the legislature is considering a bill to dedicate more money 141 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: to conservation efforts in the Palmetto State. Bill to eighty 142 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: is being called the South Carolina Conservation Enhancement Act. This 143 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: bill would create a dedicated funding source for the South 144 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Carolina Conservation Bank. This bank hands out grants that conserve 145 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: natural resource lands, wetlands, historical properties, archaeological sites, and urban parks. 146 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: The bill would take twenty five cents from the state's 147 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: deed recording fee and send it to the Conservation Bank. 148 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: I like that a whole lot. That money would otherwise 149 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: go to the States General Fund, but this bill would 150 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: make sure that money goes directly to the conservation work instead. 151 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: The bill number is to a zero and it's been 152 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: referred to the Committee on Finance. In Rhode Island, House 153 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Bill five zero eight nine would require that when a 154 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: person injures themselves or someone else with a firearm, bow 155 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: or crossbow while hunting or trapping, the Emergency Responding Service 156 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,479 Speaker 1: must immediately make a report to the Department of Environmental Management. 157 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: State agencies require accurate information to make good policy decisions, 158 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: and this bill looks like it's geared towards making sure 159 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: the Rhode Island Department of Environmental Management has good info 160 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: on hunting accidents down in Oklahoma or the sooner State 161 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Senate bill would institute would have velvet buck season beginning 162 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: on the Saturday morning prior to the last weekend of 163 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: August to the Sunday evening of the last weekend of August, 164 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: great total of nine days. This season would only be 165 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: opened in counties where the Wildlife Conservation Commission deems the 166 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: population can sustain it. Only air bows and archery equipment 167 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: will be permitted during this season. If you are wondering 168 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: what the hell and air bow is, man, I'm right 169 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: there with you. Join the club. Two other bills in 170 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Oklahoma are designed to prioritize in state hunters over out 171 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: of state hunters. One bill, dubbed the Oklahoma Hunters First Act, 172 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: would require the Wildlife Commission to issue of the total 173 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: number of issued tags to Oklahoma residents each year. Another bill, 174 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: Senate bill would increase nonresident hunting license fees for deer, antelope, 175 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and elk to four three dollars. The current fee for 176 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: these species is between two seventy and three five dollars. 177 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: The bill would also increase nonresident bear license fees from 178 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars to six hundred and twenty three dollars 179 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: to weigh in on any of these bills. Get in 180 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: touch with your Oklahoma representatives sooner rather than later. Now, 181 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: if you want my take or you don't, I'm still 182 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: gonna give it to you on this one. All right, 183 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: In state versus out of state comes down to this 184 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: little part of the wildlife that we don't like to 185 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about, which is money. Okay, non residents pay more 186 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: for their opportunities to hunt in your state than the 187 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: residents do. A lot of game agencies don't get any 188 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: cash from the general fund, meaning that tag and license 189 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: sales are the bulk of their revenue. You can ask 190 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: just about any of these states where they get their money, 191 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: and it's from non resident license and tag sales, not resident. 192 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: So here's an interesting conundrum. As we raise prices for nonresidents, 193 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: it also gives nonresidents more of a voice in your 194 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: state as that becomes more and more the bulk of 195 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the wildlife funding in that state. However, hunting is hunting, 196 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: and opportunity is the name of the game, right right, 197 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: So when we talk opportunity, what we want is lots 198 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: of access and very few people. That is why many 199 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: states such as South Dakota have experimented, in my opinion, 200 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: very successfully with providing that nonresident hunting opportunity, but at 201 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: the same time making those nonresidents choose specific windows of 202 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: time and spreading it out across a lottery like they 203 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: do for waterfowl. If you want to go out and 204 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: hunt pheasants, you have to pick dedicated blocks of time. 205 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: You can't just step over the state line and hunt 206 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: them whenever you want. And another thing, the math does 207 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: not work in any of these Western states. I hate 208 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: to tell you, a lot of Western states, say ten 209 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: percent of tags are going to be reserved for non residents. 210 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: That sounds great, right, It's very simple. You have a 211 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: thousand tags out there, nine hundred of those tags are 212 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: going to go to residents, a hundreds of non residents, right. Well, 213 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: that's the way it should be. But that's not how 214 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: the math breaks down because we complicate the tag system 215 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: because we want to pander to every group that becomes 216 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: a squeaky wheel. Landowners, guides, outfitters, non residents, residents, even 217 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: conservation groups who want to raffle stuff off. In my 218 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: very very rosy opinion, as all the infighting cranks up higher, 219 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: and higher. Eventually it should crumble back down to the 220 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: realization that this is public wildlife, held in trust for 221 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: the public and managed as such, and there just isn't 222 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: any place for special favors, or else we get into 223 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: this crazy arms race of who deserves what more. Moving 224 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: on to the Empire state, New York Assembly Bill eight 225 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: four nine would prohibit hunters from using lead ammunition what 226 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: the bill calls toxic ammunition. Instead, hunters would be required 227 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: to use only federally approved non toxic bullets and shot 228 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: This sounds simple enough, but the federal government, as far 229 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: as I could tell, just keeps a list of approved 230 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: non toxic shotgun ammunition. This is the federal government we're 231 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: talking about. New Yorkers might assume that any copper bullet 232 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: would qualify, but at this point that's unclear. Another New 233 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: York bill, SP two one would decrease the age of 234 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: person can get a universal hunting license from fourteen to 235 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: twelve years of age. Assembly Bill one ten would eliminate 236 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: a traditional means of take by prohibiting the use of 237 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: leg gripping traps. On the other end of the spectrum, 238 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Senate Bill eight seven zero would propose an amendment to 239 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: the state Constitution that guarantees a right to hunt, trap, 240 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: and fish quote by traditional means and methods. To weigh 241 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: in on any of these policies, get in touch with 242 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: your New York legislators. Moving on to the wolf desk, 243 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: a Mexican gray wolf is being sent to Mexico after 244 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: officials say she wandered too far north of Interstate forty. 245 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: The wolf, who the media and animal protectionist groups have 246 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: named Asia, was seen wandering around Taos, New Mexico, which 247 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: is about ninety five miles north of the Mexican Wolf 248 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,479 Speaker 1: Experimental population area. This area, which extends throughout southern Arizona 249 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: and New Mexico, was selected as the site of the 250 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Mexican wolf recovery because it corresponds to the historic range 251 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: of this wolf subspecies. Interstate forty was selected as the 252 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: northern boundary of this range, and there are legal, ecological, 253 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: and genetic reasons for wanting to keep Mexican wolves south 254 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: of this border. Some animal rights and environmentalist groups, however, 255 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: want to see Mexican wolves well beyond their historic range, 256 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: which is why you've seen so much attention given to Asia. 257 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Our friends at the Center for Biological Diversity released a 258 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: press release slamming the New Mexico Department of Game and 259 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Fish for capturing Asia and sending her to Mexico. One 260 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: activist said, quote US Fish and Wildlife Service and New 261 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Mexico Department of Game and Fish are attempting to control 262 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: wild nature by senselessly intervening in the lives of wild lobos. Instead, 263 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: they should allow lobos to live wild and free from 264 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: improper and unnecessary human intervention and control. Asia might be 265 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: following the call of the wild, but there's good reason 266 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: to keep the Mexican subspecies separate from its larger northern cousin. 267 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: The first biologist to describe this subspecies in the early 268 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: twentieth century located their habitat as extending from southern Arizona 269 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: and New Mexic code down the Sierra Madre into Durango, Mexico. 270 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: This range is in Mexico, while only the northern ten 271 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: percent is in the United States. More recent mammalogists and 272 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: taxonomous have agreed with this initial assessment, and it makes 273 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: sense in light of a ten dollar term known as 274 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: get ready philo geographic concordance. Philo geographic concordance describes the 275 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: way ranges of independent species and subspecies align in the 276 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: same geographic area. In this case, many species are tied 277 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: to the Madrian oak woodland area along the Sierra Madre range. 278 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: These include cow's whitetail, deer, Gould's turkeys, merns quail, and 279 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: elegant trogon. If all of these subspecies share the same range, 280 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: it stands to reason that the Mexican wolf subspecies would 281 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: have that same historical distribution. Ironically, those who want Mexican 282 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: wolves to establish a new range north of I forty 283 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: would likely be doing more harm than good to the 284 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: species as a whole. The larger Northern gray wolves are 285 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: already moving into northern Arizona and New Mexico. If the 286 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: two subspecies collide, biologists worry that the Mexican wolf genes 287 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: would be overwhelmed by their northern cousins. This genetic swamp 288 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: and could spell disaster for the Mexican wolf if we 289 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: don't do our best to recover these two types of 290 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: wolves within their historical ranges. Here's Mexican wolf expert Jim 291 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: Heffelfinger giving a presentation to the American Society of Mammalogists. 292 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: All those reasons um are really a perfect storm for 293 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: even just one or two of these larger wolves that 294 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: come in and and um and genetically swamped the Mexican 295 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: wolf genome. The line between helpful and harmful human intervention 296 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: is difficult to see in an easy one to cross. 297 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: But if we're going to recover the Mexican gray wolf, 298 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: we should do it right. If we ignore the historical 299 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: ranges of these wolves, will end up with a hybrid 300 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: Mexican gray wolf in the Southern Rockies and almost no 301 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: Mexican wolves throughout much of their historic range. At that point, 302 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't think we can say we've really recovered the 303 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Mexican wolf. Moving on to the public land desk, the 304 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Department of the Interior announced last week a long term 305 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: moratorium on mineral extraction in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area 306 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Wilderness and surrounding Watershed in northeast Minnesota. Specifically, the proposal 307 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: would prohibit the development of any mineral leases on approximately 308 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: two thousand acres of Superior National Forest lands within the 309 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: watershed of the Boundary Waters for up to twenty years. 310 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: Lucas Leaf, a meat eater, culinary contributor, and executive director 311 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: of Sportsman for the Boundary Waters praised the decision quote 312 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: across the country. The significance of the historic decision by 313 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: Interior Secretary Deb Holland to implement twenty year protections for 314 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: the Boundary Waters is being celebrated. Sportsman for the Boundary 315 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: Waters would like to express our deepest gratitude to this 316 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: administration for its leadership and protecting the b w c 317 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: A from sulfide or copper mining. The Boundary Waters is 318 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: America's most traveled wilderness area, but it's also covering lots 319 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: of iron and copper or deposits. Protecting the Boundary Waters 320 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: from mining projects has been a top priority for sportsmen 321 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: and conservationists for many years, and with good reason. The 322 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: only lake land wilderness in the National Wilderness Preservation System, 323 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: the Boundary Waters covers a whopping one point one million 324 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: acres at boast, more than twelve hundred miles of canoe routes, 325 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: twelve hiking trails, and two thousand designated campsites, and contributes 326 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: up to seventeen point four million annually to the recreation 327 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and tourism economies in Cook Lake and St. Louis Counties. 328 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: Got to admit, I think the Boundary Water is being 329 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: preserved like that that giant sponge of fresh water in 330 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: America is a cool thing. However, that wasn't the only 331 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: major piece of public land news last week. The US 332 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: to Artment of Agriculture finalized rule to protect America's largest 333 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: national forest, the Tongas in Alaska. Back in two thousand eighteen, 334 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: the state of Alaska submitted a request to increase development 335 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: on Tongass nine point three million acres of roadless back country. 336 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: In two thousand twenty, the Forest Service granted the request 337 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: by repealing roadless protections for the Tongas in its entirety 338 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: and opening the world's largest intact temperate rainforest to development. 339 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Last week's decision restores those protections to help ensure that 340 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: the Tongas remains wild and road free for future generations. 341 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: It also helps to ensure that mountain goats, sick a 342 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: blacktailed deer, brown bears, and the black bears retain their 343 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: excellent habitat within that area. I'm always in favor of 344 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: added protections for wild places, but there is another side 345 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: of this debate. Republican U S Senators Lisa Murkowski and 346 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan released a press release slamming this decision. They 347 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: say the roadless Rule should never have been applied to 348 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: the Tongas, and they argue that the national forest is 349 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: already protected under other designations. They say that removing the 350 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: roadless Rule protections would only allow development in ten percent 351 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: of the forest. In a final piece of breaking public 352 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: land news, the e p A Environmental Protection Agency announced 353 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: this week that it had proactively rescinded mining permits for 354 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Bristol Bay. Bristol Bay in southeast Alaska is home to 355 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: the world's largest salmon fishery, but for many years it's 356 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: been threatened by mining operations. Sportsman and conservationists have fought 357 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: to protect this fragile watershed. It's honestly been a very 358 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: bipartisan fight, and this latest announcement from the e p 359 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: A is a huge victory. I'll have more details next week. 360 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: Moving on to the Crime Desk, it's been a week 361 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: of hunter on hunter violence over at the crime Desk 362 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: in Michigan, a hunter named Thomas Steele is serving a 363 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: sixty day sentence for sabotage another hunter's tree stand. The 364 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Michigan Department of Natural Resources reported that Steele began harassing 365 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: another Upper Peninsula hunter back in two thousand, twenty. At 366 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: that time, Steele left note on the other hunter's trail 367 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: cam claiming that the spot on state owned land belonged 368 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: to Steele. A few weeks later, the hunter returned to 369 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: his tree stand, climbed to the top, and fell twenty 370 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: feet to the ground. He landed on his feet, but 371 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: injured his back and ankle. He returned home and reported 372 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: the incident to law enforcement, at which point an investigation 373 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: was launched. Not to be intimidated, the hunter returned to 374 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: that same spot and set up his tree stand again. 375 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: Steele had been using a trail cam to spy on 376 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: the hunter, but that turned out to be a mistake. 377 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: Conservation officers obtained a search warrant for Steele's camera, where 378 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: they found evidence of Steel sabotaging the tree stand for 379 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: a second time. According to the d n R, steel 380 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: cut the straps in such a way that they would 381 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: support the weight of the tree stand, but would break 382 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: as soon as additional weight was applied. When Steele discovered 383 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: that his trail cam was missing, he thought the hunter 384 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: had stolen it, so he left threatening messages on his 385 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: voicemail and disparaged him on social media. Eventually, he reported 386 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: his trail cam as having been stolen and set up 387 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: a meeting with a public safety officer. In that meeting, 388 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: he admitted to sabotaging the tree stand, and he was 389 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: charged in two thousand twenty one. Along with the sixty 390 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: day jail sentence, Steele must reimburse the victim's medical expenses 391 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: for injuries sustained in his fall, and his hunting privileges 392 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: have been revoked for an undetermined amount of time. In 393 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: another case of violence between hunters and North Carolina, man 394 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: shot and killed another hunter after an altercation over hunting spot. 395 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: Tommy Cass had permission to dub hunt on a dairy 396 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: farm and Union Grove, a town about fifty miles north 397 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: of Charlotte, but another man named Dale Hag did not 398 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: want Cass hunting on the farm. According to the Iredale 399 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: Free News, the two had been in a year's long 400 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: dispute Overcast hunting on the property, and on September seventh, 401 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, that conflict turned deadly. Hagg confronted Cast 402 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: while Cast was hunting with some friends, and Hag said 403 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: something to make Casts push him to the ground. Hag 404 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: pulled out a handgun and shot Casts. In the face, 405 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: killing him instantly. At the trial last month, Hag claimed 406 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: he saw casts reaching into his coat and he was 407 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: in fear for his life. The jury didn't buy it. 408 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: They convicted Hag of first degree murder and a judge 409 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: sentenced him to life behind bars. Over in Indiana, a 410 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: property caretaker was shot after confronting four people who were 411 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: hunting on private property without permission in southwestern Union County. 412 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: The caretaker survived, but as far as I can tell, 413 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: law enforcement has yet to identify the four suspects. I've 414 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: reached out to Union County officials. They'll update me, but 415 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: you know you hear something. Reach on out a sk 416 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: C A L at the Meat Eater dot com. That's 417 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: all I've got for you this week. Sorry to end 418 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: things on a bummer. Remember if you're a good hunter, 419 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: you can hunt up another spot. Deadly confrontations are only 420 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: good if the doves die, not the dude next to you. Anyway, 421 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: that's all I've got for you this week. Thank you 422 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: so much for listening, and remember to write in to 423 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: a s k C A L. That's ask how at 424 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: the meat Eater dot com and let me know what's 425 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: going on in your neck of the woods. Also, if 426 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: you're staring out through the bleak, gray polar winter, just 427 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: hitching to get out there and drop some trees sharpen 428 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: up that yard, go to www dot steel dealers dot 429 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: com and find a local, knowledgeable steel dealer near you. 430 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna get you set up with what you need. 431 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: I won't try to send you home with what you don't. 432 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: Thanks again, I'll talk to you next week.