1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharp or Square, presented by hard Rock that 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: we are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: the show that makes the square sharper, makes the wise 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Shadmulman. I am joined as always, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: I my BFF, my calls, my companion, my boge Ray 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Professional Better, Simon Hunter, Hello, Sammon. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Shad, how we feeling, buddy going? All right? 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: The highs and lows of being a Barris fan all 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: in one game. Listen, I'm listening. 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I watched that play and as you can imagine, I'm like, 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no. And when 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: he throws it fifty yards to the back of the 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: end zone over two Los Angeles rams and it's a touchdown. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I called my house because you know, I'm in Miami, 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: so I called my house because my son is still 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: home from break and no words were spoken because he's 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: got a bunch of people over at the house. And 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: it was it sounded like it was Soldier Field. There 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: was so much screaming going on. And because I'm in hotel, 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I can't do the same thing. But I'm like, did 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: we get Patrick Mahomes, did we get Michael Jordan? Did 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: we get Josh Allen, and then I felt that again 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: when he got that third down and short in the overtime. 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, the guy is just so cool. And then 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: he throws a pick in the Rams kick a field 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: goal and they cover, and they break our heart because 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: the Bears don't go to the NFC title game and 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: we don't cover, So simon, we're going to get into 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: that game, no doubt. Just glorious. I have so many thoughts. 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts. A wild weekend of football. 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't even bet the Broncos and Bills 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: in the contest, but we're going to probably want to 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: talk about that game more than any of them. Port 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 1: went out for our buddy Matt Mitchell. I feel terrible 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: for him. So we're one and four again this week, 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: back to back. First time that's ever happened. Lost in 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: the most gut wrenching ways so many times. Seattle, San 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Francisco under forty five and a half, San Francisco plus 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: seven and a half, New England minus three and a 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: half was the win. New England Houston under forty and 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: a half, and of course the Rams minus four and 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: a half. I think our last one's out were the 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Broncos Bills, over which of course cash by more than 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. So that was a kick in the dick. 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: You ready to get into this thing? You know what, 46 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: Let's just all right, let's start with Seattle San Francisco. 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: The under was forty five and a half, the side 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: was seven and a half. You know, we talked a 49 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: lot about this game. We thought it would go one 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: in two ways. We thought Seattle will blow them out 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: out and the way the game would go because of 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: the injuries for the Giant, for the Niners, they just 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to score that much or would be 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: really close. It's why it was Chad's choice, and it 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: would be tight and little scoring. It was the former. 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: The problem was when you give off a kickoff return, 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: then you give up a field goal off of fumble, 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: and then you give up a touchdown and off interception 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: later in the game. They still only covered by the 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: only overcovered by one point. But it's like the Niners 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: were doing everything they could to help the Seahawks score 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns and the Seahawks were diverting everything they could to 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: not score touchdowns. 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just another total meltdown by four nineers, 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: which I can't believe just because the game was beforehand. 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: You know, two weeks ago, you know the obste only 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: scored three points four nine ers. You just thought Kyle 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: would figure out a way to attack that defense, right, 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: He's one of the smartest minds in football. 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: But he struggled, pretty struggled. And just like you said, 71 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: the the. 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: Start of the game, I thought I thought the under 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: was gonna be dead. You get a kick a return 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: like that with low totals, it's like, Okay, gonna need 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: a little help, Gonna need one quarterback to not show 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: up today. And I mean I'm not saying Darnold didn't 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: show up. I think you only had twelve completions. Either 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: quarterback had a great game. Just the defense, the Seattle 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: defense was so dominant. Every possession was on a short 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: field for their offense. And yeah, I mean they're looking 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: like the best team of football now. Forty one points. 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: They absolutely dominated that entire game. And bad bet, but 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: that's not so much of the total. Like you said, 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: bad beat on the total. But side we joked a 85 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: little bit, or at least I did that. You know, 86 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: I had a couple of askans. It's just like the 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: Carolina number right, the number was minus seven a half 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: on Seattle. 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: They nailed it right. There was just no contest. 90 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: Seattle totally beat the bricks off that forty nine ers team. 91 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: And you know, that's it's tough, you know, like you said, 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: it's it's never it's never that easy when you taking 93 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: big dogs like that. But we had the seven and 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: a half the close and a lot of books six 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: and a half and it's like, didn't even matter, take 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: your good number and go home with it. It's we're 97 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: going to actlutely dominate this team. So it was what 98 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 3: was seventy to nothing in the first quarter, never felt 99 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: like everyone had a chance of getting even a back 100 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: and four. 101 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: I think they settled for the first field goal. 102 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 3: They go down again and kick another field on It's like, okay, 103 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: that's how Shannan's playing this game. 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: You settling for threes here. 105 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: And that was at first the point hours and just 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: totally outclassed by you know, a healthier and better team 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: right now in Seattle. 108 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Look, it was so frustrating. I landed in Miami last 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: night at ten thirty and I think when I was 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: in a cab on the way back from the airport. 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: The Seahawks went up thirty four to six, and I 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: knew next touchdown, and there's still a quarter left in 113 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: the game, and they still barely scored another touchdown. They 114 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: were doing it because the Niners were giving them zero choices, 115 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: like they had to do something with the ball, right 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: they like they were just too close not to move. 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: So I do think it'll be curious. And now now 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: we got a Rams Seahawks NFC title game, the two 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: probably best teams in the NFC all season are are 120 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: playing each other, which is great. You want that to 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: be the case. But wild Man totally wild and and like, well, 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that in a second, 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: because I do want to get back to the to 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: the Bears game in a second. The other game, the 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: New England Houston game, another one, Simon, let me go 126 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: through this, Matt Mitchell, I apologize I'm jumping around on 127 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: the rundown here, but but we're going to go to 128 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: New England for a second. It was the second time 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: this weekend we had under forty and a half. We 130 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: had New England minus three and a half. Good call 131 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: by you, by the way, For the second time our 132 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: total completely undone by turnovers Sigmon eight turnovers plus a 133 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: couple more fumbles that were recovered by the fumbling team. 134 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Wild game. Let me give you some context here. First 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: touchdown was off of a fumble, a twenty seven yard drive. 136 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Second touchdown was a pick six, Then there was a 137 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: field goal off of a pick These are the scores. 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Seventeen points directly after a turnovers, seventeen other forty four 139 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: points the rest of the game, thirteen punts and a 140 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: turnover on downs. So if not for the turnovers, I 141 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: don't even know if there were thirty points in this game. 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Like we were so on about this game, except neither 143 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: team seemed to want to let the other team have 144 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: to drive the length of the field. It was. It 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: was excruciating, completely excruciating. 146 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly though I thought CJ would struggle in 147 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: the weather. That was, like you said, shocking, because of 148 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: how bad he was with the ball the week before, 149 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: you would think the biggest thing they would coach into 150 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: him this past week is just like, hey, you can 151 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: take a risk if you need to, but just be safe. 152 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: We have the best defense. 153 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: Like, if you don't give short fields, we're going to 154 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: be able to put our weight into this New England team, 155 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: which they did. 156 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: I mean their defense was dominant in that game. 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: Like you said, New England had twenty one points, I 158 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: think they had one hundred and thirty yards though it 159 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: was like the most bizarre stat they were showing. But yeah, 160 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: I mean, can we not give a ton of props 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: to Drake May three touchdown passes against that defense? No 162 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: big time Like and again he was stupid too with 163 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: the ball. Would he have two fumbles he lost? I 164 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: mean he pulling onto the ball for too long. And 165 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: you know, that was just a game where we were 166 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: just trying to survive with the under and I honestly 167 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: always felt like eventually doing little break through and they 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: were going to cover that number just because it just 169 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: felt like CJ was totally lost, like he was never 170 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: going to find it. Another stat they put up there, 171 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: I think in his last uh seven pass attempts, he 172 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: had thrown three picks. 173 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: It was just a total anomaly. 174 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: So you know, I know, Bears fans been the running 175 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: around that meme since since he tried to tell Kaylen 176 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: Williams He's gonna be a great player this league, which 177 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: once again he was right. I don't know why they 178 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: beat him down about it, but the stats are insane 179 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: about how bad CJ has been, So I. 180 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: Don't know what they're gonna do. 181 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: It's a quarterback that as a rookie he was incredible 182 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 3: and from having bad offensive line play. 183 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: It feels like they're veryonined. 184 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: It's like he's got happy feet and his decision making 185 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: was really pissed for because, like you said, their defense 186 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: was so good, like they don't back up anything. 187 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, New England now a game away. 188 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: Playing a backup quarterback from going to the Super Bowl. Uh, 189 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: you talk all the time like a quarterback with the 190 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: right head coach, it just crazy, just changes everything. 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I. 192 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: Think Milan Williams was talking about he never thought in 193 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: his life coming here, obviously from the Eagles to that 194 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: team for a bag of money. He was like, I 195 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: thought it was gonna be a three four year rebuild, 196 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: not two years. And I know Caleb didn't do it. 197 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: He didn't come through obviously, and they didn't win that game, 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: but we were a play away from him not throwing 199 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: that pick of on that pick that we would have 200 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: four quarterbacks all in the championship game. All brand new 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: basically to these teams. They all of them have been 202 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: on these teams are less than two years. So it 203 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: was a pretty wild I mean, no Stafford's in there now, 204 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,359 Speaker 3: but still, yeah, these these second year quarterbacks incredible. 205 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: Almost have three of them the Championship Finals. 206 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Well, look we would have been if not for Boennigs 207 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: breaking his ankle on the second to last play of 208 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: the game before they win that game in overtime. And look, 209 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: that was a great call by you, Simon says. Was 210 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: the Broncos plus one and a half. And of course, 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: the very first thing that I said this week in 212 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: that game was I feel like I want to take 213 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: the over. I know we're talking about the best defense 214 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: with the Broncos, but these two teams lighted up in 215 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: the second half, and then we completely chickened out on 216 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: that bet when it came to putting our picks in. 217 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: And look, we're all gonna feel terrible for Josh Allen, 218 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: but I do want to point out at the end 219 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of the game that the tools he was working with 220 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: were Mikole Hardman, who if he had run that route 221 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: a little bit flatter to the left instead of fading 222 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: a field, then he probably catches that ball that was 223 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: the one right before. And by the way, Michael Harmon, 224 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: who had just gotten off the practice squad so he's 225 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: barely got any practice time. He hadn't been on the 226 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: team all year. And then Brandon Cooks who cut that 227 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: ball and then didn't catch that ball. He's been on 228 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: the team for a month. I mean, if I'm the Bills. 229 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: If I'm the Bills, I don't care what it costs. 230 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: I know I have Josh Allen, and I've seen what 231 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen did with so little help this year. I'm 232 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: giving up whatever it takes to get the Steelers to 233 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: let me have Mike Tomlin because you just said it, Simon, 234 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: the coach makes such a difference, and we've seen what 235 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: a difference he makes with such bad quarterbacks, what he 236 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: could do with Josh Allen. 237 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't care who else is on the team potentially. 238 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the man is zero and seven or whatever 239 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: his last playoff games, Tomlin, so I don't know what 240 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna do with the first step is what you 241 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: just said. Fire and Sean mcdermy. I mean, if you 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: had an owner with a pulse as a Bill's, he 243 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: never would have got off that plane, especially when he's 244 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: calling up a reporter on the plane complaining about the refs, 245 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: where it's like, dude, own it, own it, like Josh Allen, Yeah, 246 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: was that sucked that he cried because it's not a 247 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: good look. I know you probably have compassion because once again, 248 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: Chat has kids. I don't love kids. So he and 249 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: a grown man cry like that inter shit together. But uh, 250 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: I get why he's so hurt for turnovers. He is, 251 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: you can't blame the refs and they gave you have 252 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: fovers were three points decide that's the game two. 253 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Points off of a fumble at the end of the 254 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: first half. 255 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: That's my point right there. 256 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: That that to me, you just now where it's like, 257 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: that's why you need to fire your head coach. If 258 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: you maybe Tomlin does have the ball, just say, hey, man, 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: we have seventeen seconds, no timeouts. I get it, you 260 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: want to get every point. Just take the knee going 261 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: to half. And yeah, they're just you know, he he 262 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 3: knows that he missed the guy there at the end 263 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: two where you know you probably could have got a 264 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: touchdown or whatever with Kincaid. But you know, like you said, Josh, 265 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: they've been failing them. We've been talking about they've they've 266 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: tried to get him in on one receiver. It just 267 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: does not work since they let Digs go. You know, 268 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: even Gabe Davis. I know he's not obviously that great, 269 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: but you see Diggs making place for New England. It's like, 270 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: couldn't they use a digs that. They could use a 271 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: Digs type. It's just drash Allen's were missing that. So 272 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, gotta fire the coach. Got to spend 273 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: a tonnel capital obviously, but that that that game to me. 274 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: I mean it sucks obviously the Broncos fans, but Bo 275 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: Knicks what a game by him? I honestly, yeah, a 276 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: roller coaster, a game where it's like, you know, the 277 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: Bills defense were getting stops, they kept getting all those 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: turnovers and the Bills kept holding them for field goals, 279 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 3: which again, that was the most shocking part of that game. 280 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: They kept getting stops and bone Nicks big time. At 281 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: the end of the game, you know, they couldn't run 282 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: the ball. 283 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: Lick. 284 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: I think he had to throw the ball forty six 285 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: times or forty five times and they won that game. 286 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: So I really couldn't get over watching it like you said, 287 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: you know, I bet it. I think I had, or 288 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: at least they gave on the show them first half 289 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: as well. 290 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did do the Broncos first half. 291 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: And that to me was the game changer of the 292 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: game where I was just hoping for three and he 293 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: took that deep shot for a touchdown and it's like, okay, 294 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: this is this is a moment Bonnicks is living up 295 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: to it. That was a big time throw before the halftime, 296 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: and obviously they got gifted the three and that was 297 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: just a total game changer. So yeah, sucks we missed 298 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: on that one. I will say I went back to look, 299 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: I did give you a fifty fifty chance. I said, 300 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: it's up to you, Chad Rams or Broncos. Unfortunately you 301 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: went Rams, which again I get it you're trying to 302 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: protect against your feelings, but also I do think we're scary, 303 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: but against the getting against Josh Allen is terrifying. So yes, 304 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: even with whatever that was, you know, four turnovers by 305 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: him and Cooks a turnover, still a three point game. 306 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: Josh Allen, He's just he's terrifying. 307 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: The dude was ahead, was behind, he came back with 308 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: a minute down to tie it, and if not for 309 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: a quirky fifty to fifty ball, they win that game. 310 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that game came down to so many millimeters 311 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: of judgment calls. Meanwhile, you know, Mitchell and I were 312 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: talking this morning and he made a really good point. 313 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: He said, if anyone thinks the NFL is rigged, then 314 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: the NFL would have made sure that Josh Allen, who 315 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: has created some of the most exciting moments in the 316 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: NFL playoffs over the last six seven seasons, who has 317 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: been in the middle of some of the most exciting 318 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: games in the NFL playoffs the last six seven sevens, 319 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: would make sure that he gets to the AOFC title 320 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: game instead of Jarrett Stidham. 321 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: And I got another I know the reason I fire 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott. We all agree Josh Allen's not the problem, 323 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: even though I guess you could say it was a 324 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: problem in that game four turners, obviously, but he is 325 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: the first quarterback and the first coach in NFL history 326 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: that I have eight playoff. 327 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Wins in zero Super Bowl appearances. 328 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: Which again it's at the end of the day, you 329 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: look at all the stats over his career in the playoffs, 330 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: you cannot blame Josh Allen. 331 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: You just have to fire this head coach. I can't 332 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: believe he stills a job right now. It's crazy. 333 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna dig deep, deep, deep into the Jarrett Stidham 334 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: starting for the Broncos and the AFC Championship game against 335 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, against Drake May when we get to the 336 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: show on Tuesday. But for everybody in the world who 337 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: is freaking out that it's Jared's did him starting in 338 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game and saying, oh my god, the 339 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: Broncos are in serious, serious trouble. I think we all agree, 340 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: but don't forget we have all been saying we're not 341 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: even sure bo Nicks is the answer for about two seasons. 342 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know if we want to overreact to 343 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: the fact that it's not Bonnicks. I'm not saying it's 344 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: good as Jared's did him, but bo Nix has not 345 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: been Joe Montana yet, So to me, the reaction in 346 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: this is just hilarious that all of a sudden, it's 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: like because it's but it's bon Nicks, and it's it's 348 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: Jared's Didham and not Tho Nicks. The reactions have been 349 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: enormously funny. To me. 350 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: That's very disrespectful to bon Nicks. I think Stidham's one 351 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: and three in his career. 352 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: He's just I'm not saying, listen, I'm just saying, for 353 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: two years people have been ripping bon Nicks, saying he's 354 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: not even that good, and now all of a sudden, 355 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: everyone's like, how can the Broncos get to the super 356 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Bowl without bon Nicks? That's all I'm saying. 357 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: It's true. 358 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell has a statement that he likes to make 359 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: the end of every year. He's unable to get on 360 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: the camera right now, so I'm just going to make 361 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: it for him. Producer Matt Mitchell had his guts ripped 362 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: out by another Buffalo Bills playoff loss, because both gamblers 363 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: and Buffalo fans know that it is only through suffering 364 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: we can truly feel alive. He's asked me to read 365 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: our annual quotation from nineteenth century Russian novelist and front 366 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: of the show Fyodor Dostoevsky, because don't forget, we are 367 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: the most literate sports betting podcast in America. Let me 368 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: get my glasses on to make sure I don't miss 369 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: anything here. I exist in thousands of agonies. I exist. 370 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm tormented on the rock, but I exist. Though I 371 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: sit alone in a pillar. I exist. I see the sun, 372 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: and if I don't see the sun, I know it's there. 373 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: And there's a whole life in that in knowing that 374 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: the sun is there. Matt Mitchell speaks for all gutted 375 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: football fans, as does our friend Dostoevsky. That tip to you, 376 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: my friend. Hey, listen, don't forget Simon. 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All rightybody, One 395 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: last game, we had the Rams Mintes four and a 396 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: half at Chicago. 397 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: Look. 398 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: The good news is that the bet we really loved 399 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: we kept telling people to take all week was the 400 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: under in the first half of twenty five and a half. 401 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Twenty four and a half covered no sweat, fantastic fourteen 402 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: quick points. But then things settled down and then, as 403 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: always with the Bears, pure freaking chaos. Holy Tomali, that's 404 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: Caleb's We talk about coaches right, last year he had 405 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: Matt Abraflus. Can you imagine what a waste of a 406 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: year it was to have Matt Abraflus coaching that team. 407 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: I can't, No one tell me. The gm knew that 408 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: Ben Jonson was going to be available, and that's where 409 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: we were going to get him. Like, what a waste 410 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: of a year? And how glorious is Caleb Williams at quarterback? 411 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: It's I hope it's not. I hope it's not a 412 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen thing. 413 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: He's good, but he's got to find consistency somewhere eventually. 414 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: That was just a type of game where it's like 415 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: your defense gave you super Bowl worthy game Like Brisker. 416 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: How many times did we hear his name in that game? 417 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: Just incredible safety play and McVeigh and Stafford they acted 418 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: like they had never seen a corner of blitz before. 419 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: It was they should have let let you guys up 420 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 3: for four hundred yards passing and they couldn't figure it out. 421 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: And on top of that, it felt like they could 422 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: get seven yards of pop anytime they ran it, but 423 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: they didn't McVeigh. They couldn't stop trying to drop back 424 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: and just throw the ball. Was very bizarre. Uh, you know, 425 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: I I'm I'm obviously I'm hurt that we didn't get 426 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: the cover. I mean, that was brutal, But the end 427 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: of the day, it's like, what are you gonna do? 428 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: People? 429 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: It was fourth and four, twenty five yard backdrop off 430 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: his back foot too? What probably was a push off, 431 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: but at the same time, you can't throw a flag 432 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: there even if they even if France fans were like, dude, 433 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 3: that's clear a push off, but it was. 434 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, you really want them to. 435 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: Throw a flag on that type of play like they 436 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: That's what Like again the Bills game, and I know 437 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: it ruined a lot of bad taste in people's mouth. 438 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: You can't let the refs dictate this stuff. 439 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: And like as a bitter Eagles fan from the Chief 440 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl three years ago, I hate it. So it's 441 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: like I love that they let the Boys play in 442 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: that one. They let that play stand because they would 443 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: have called a penalty there. It just would have been awful. 444 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: Like again, brutal. We didn't get the cover, but yeah, 445 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: that you know, that's that I gave out held true. Basically, 446 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: these the teams there are dogs in a wildcard round 447 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: that are dogs against the divisional round. It's just so 448 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: hard to win whatever it is NFL. It's just so 449 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: brutal to one as a dog the books knowing you know, 450 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: coming into this game since twenty eighteen, those teams in 451 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: that exact spot were three and twenty straight up. They 452 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: went Ozero and three this weekend, right, forty nine Ers lost, 453 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: Bill Is lost, and obviously the Bears lost. So yeah, 454 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: that was you know, Brunante first to get to cover 455 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: that one hurt. But yeah, that's you know, playoff football. 456 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: It's crazy. And like you said, thank god. Our biggest 457 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: favorite bet in this game was that first half under 458 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: which I won't lie to you, Chad, that first drive 459 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: of the Bears. I'm like, my god, Bears might put 460 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: up twenty one points themselves in this first half. But 461 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 3: what happened is that what we expect right to get jitters, 462 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: you know, I think they've failed in a fourth down 463 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: down the red zone and for all the Bears and 464 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: ended ten to ten first half, so went way under. 465 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: I think we got it. 466 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: We gave it out twenty five and a half and 467 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: might it closed it twenty three and a half. 468 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: It's still hit. 469 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: Well, we gave it out twenty five and a half 470 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: twenty four and a half. It was Chad, it was 471 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: my choice in sure versus square, which we'll get to 472 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: in a second. Let me ask you a question as 473 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: a as an impartial better and a professional. Yeah, this game, 474 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: that play, it's magnificent. It will go up there as 475 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: one of the greatest fourth and four. It's one of 476 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: the greatest playoff plays that we've seen in a generation. 477 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Still still now. 478 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, buddy, he blew with that pick. It was 479 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: an incredible play. 480 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a Bears fan, that's again, you get, 481 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: you get, you get fifteen more years. 482 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: I'd be happy. 483 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: But maybe they should on the highlight reel. But it 484 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: means it means nothing. I mean, it was an incredible play, 485 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: But come on. 486 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: Now, it's here's my point. 487 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: Threw a pick and overtime like you should no, no, no. 488 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: You're missing it. You're missing it. Hold on. The point 489 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: is as a sports fan, the opportunity to see that play, 490 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: so you have that happen and actually experience it. 491 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's all the time. Er it was. It was 492 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: the best to. 493 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: Lose the bet to having seen something like that. They've 494 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: never seen. 495 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: I should have. 496 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: I should have a ton of money in my account. 497 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: That was the That's the dumbest way to lose money. 498 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: It's like an improbable pass. He was deader than dead. 499 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: Just you know, he's like we talked that said coming 500 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: into the league. He's got the same type of ability 501 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: that that Rogers Mahomes type. Right, this weird contortion of 502 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: their body back foot, so much raw talent and power 503 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 3: in their arm, and that's why you love the guy. 504 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: It's like he that was not that's just a true 505 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: God given ability play right. There is no thinking he's 506 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 3: thrown off his back foot. Last second corner of his 507 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: eye he sees just a flash of color of his 508 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: own team in that corner and just threw it up 509 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: like that. 510 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: He's a coming to pick as well. 511 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: So it's just incredible that talented he threw it to 512 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: the only spot this guy was going to be where 513 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: everything else is going on. So now, like you said, 514 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: it's an incredible play, but it's for not us, That's 515 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: what That's what kind of sucks where it's like, you know, 516 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: if they would have won, and I mean, come on, 517 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: we'd be talking about that play for NonStop for six days, 518 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: like it would just be all we could talk about. 519 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: It's incredible, But yeah, that was that was a tough loss. 520 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: Brother. 521 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: I normally, I normally don't feel this way, but I 522 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: do feel like we had three They're like last week 523 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: was a bad week. This week feels like we had 524 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: just three fluky bad beats this week with those two 525 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: totals and the rash of turnovers and uh losing that 526 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: Bears game, which I'm happy to do, uh, given the 527 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: thrill and the opportunity to keep playing on that fourth 528 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: and four Hail Mary flew. 529 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: With that Denver game. 530 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 3: We should have stuck through our guns with the over. 531 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: Should have stuck through our guns with yes. But you know, 532 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: that's why this contest is so fun and hard, where 533 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: it's like I think we had we would have three plays, 534 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: we'd have Patriots first half, we would have had Denver 535 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: first half, we would have had the Bears under first half. Yes, 536 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: in our contest, And that's why I like our contest 537 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: because it's so hard where it's like you, no, you 538 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: don't get those easy outs. You got to pick sider total. 539 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, like like you said, just not did not 540 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 3: bounce our way this week and hopefully you know another 541 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: week next week. 542 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: We hope we can turn it around, all right. 543 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: Quick quick word from our friends at hard Rock Bet. 544 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, 545 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet. 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I don't 583 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: know what direction I was going to be really excited 584 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: to talk about c J. Stroud when we do our 585 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: previews next year, because I think he's gotten the benefit 586 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: of doubt, the doubt the past two years, but he 587 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: has not progressed. He's regressed consistently. It's been a couple 588 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. It's been bad offensive line play, He's had 589 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: issues with his receivers being injured. But when we're talking 590 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: about c J. Stroud in the summer, are we talking 591 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: about CJ. Stroud as a quarterback who can lead his 592 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: team to the Super Bowl? Are we talking about CJ Stroud? 593 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: This is the question being asked from tir One, like 594 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: are they excited to pick up his fifty year option? 595 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: Do they have him play into it? What's your take 596 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: on that? 597 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta pick it up. You gotta pay him. 598 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: If Kirk Cousin gets paid millions and millions of dollars, 599 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: you got to pay CJ. 600 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: Like this is Yeah, he's looked bad and he's under performed, 601 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: but he's now won a playoff game every season. 602 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 2: He's been a pro in the NFL. 603 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: And we talk all the time, like, I know we 604 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: poo poo it when it comes to Jihn Hurts, But 605 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: these other quarterbacks, the playoffs matter, it really does. You 606 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: see how hard it is. It's so intense, every little 607 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: play matters. And you know CJ. Something's up with him 608 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: for sure in these playoffs, right, you can't ignore how 609 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: bad he's been in the playoffs. And you know, in 610 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: a meanless game against the Colts in October, he lights 611 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: them up. But when he's playing a legit defense here 612 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, he's just every time seems to struggle. 613 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: He just can't play smart. And with that defense, yeah, 614 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: it's a big weakness. But I think they're stuck, Like, 615 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what they could do. You got to 616 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 3: pick up the fifth option. I think you gotta give 617 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: them a contract and you just got to let it 618 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: play out. But they just have to every year draft 619 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: offensive lineman like this offensive He's never had a good 620 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: offensive line, so to me, it's a built an excuse, 621 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: of course, But it's the same thing we say with 622 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, like give the man time. I think he'll 623 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: be better in the playoffs, and the same thing with CJ. 624 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: I think if CJ has more time, he loses some 625 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: of these bad habits. I think he can get back 626 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: to what he was. But yeah, I mean we do 627 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: a top ten list. I don't know if mean either 628 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: rus our top ten next year. It's definitely not not 629 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: been a good two seasons now for us CJ. 630 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Definitely below justin. Herbert Simon says was Denver plus one 631 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: and a half. Chat's choice with Seattle San Francisco under 632 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: forty five and a half. Brass balls was New England 633 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: Houston under forty and a half. Rock and a hard 634 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: place was Chicago in LA first half under twenty four. 635 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: Shartfastus square. I had Chicago LA first half under twenty four. 636 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember who you had and I left my 637 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: notes in connecticuts. Do you remember who he had it? 638 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Shark first square. I was all in on the Patriots. Baby, 639 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 640 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: You had the Patriots minus three and a half. Yeah, 641 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: great bet, all right. 642 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: Honest I didn't do this square that I said. I 643 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: just did the money line. But still you bet big enough. 644 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: That's the way to go, play it safe. 645 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Patriots minus three and a half. That was the win 646 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: this week. New England Houston under forty and a half 647 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: loser San Francisco plus seven and a half loser Seattle 648 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco under forty five and a half tough loss, 649 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: RAMS minus four and a half tough loss. This has 650 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: been Sharper Square presented by hard Rock Bet, part of 651 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: the Volume podcast network. We will be back with our 652 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: next Sharper Square on Tuesday to go over the way. 653 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: Wait one second before you run out of your chad, 654 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: Why are you feeling the numbers now down to minus 655 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: seven and a half on your Hoosiers sharp money coming 656 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: in on Miami. 657 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: How you feeling twenty four hours out? 658 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I bet the Hoosiers at minus seven and 659 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 1: a half while I'm here in Florida because I've been 660 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: getting that number here. I feel great. I feel fantastic, 661 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: like I have no reason not to. I was nervous 662 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: before Alabama. The way we played it now against Alabama 663 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: and then the way we played against or again made 664 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: me remember that we're a super supl and football team 665 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: with highly skilled athletes, and so I'm going to continue 666 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: to believe and be confident. And I'll have more on 667 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: that tomorrow on my social channels. From the hard Rock 668 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Casino Sportsbook in Florida, the only legal place to bet 669 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: on sports in the state. By the way, We're going 670 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: to talk about this in much more detail obviously, but 671 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: early lines Denver plus five and a half at home 672 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots and the Los Angeles Rams 673 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: plus two and a half on the road at the 674 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: Seattle See Hawks. This has a bit Sharper Square presented 675 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: by hard Rock Bet, part of the Volume podcast network. 676 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 1: We will be back with our Sharper Square on Tuesday 677 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: to go over to the entire NFL sleep Watcher're listening 678 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: on YouTube bit Sharper Square like this video, subscribe to 679 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: the channel. 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