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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily A body here bringing you Episode ninety

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Speaker 2: eight of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I sit

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Speaker 2: down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from their

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Speaker 1: My mission is simple.

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Speaker 2: To inspire you to be your best self, move with intention,

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Speaker 2: thirty is one of the best podcasts to listen to

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Speaker 2: you right now period. The two ladies have honest, beautiful

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Speaker 2: So on today's episode, Lindsay and I are talking about

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Speaker 2: every single day. If you have a hurdle moment of

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Speaker 1: the some sort of department board or whatever I don't

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00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: even know, and they're watching you very closely. It's like

437
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: very like straight faced at first, but then they like

438
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: kind of warm up and get into it. But yeah,

439
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I wrote to It was

440
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: a wild time. I don't even know if I could

441
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: really ride that well. But I had personality, you know,

442
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: and I could really engage a room, and so that's

443
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: what they were looking for at the time, and yeah,

444
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: the ten week after that, they do like another interview,

445
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: like I sit down interview and then once I made it,

446
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: there's a ten week training program four hours a day,

447
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: four days.

448
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: A week, casual, casual, nothing, you know, time consuming, not

449
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: at all. I mean when you moved So when you

450
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: moved out here, obviously you're in Newport at first, but

451
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: when you start teaching more in LA, does the acting

452
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: bug kind of come back at you?

453
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always, It's always there. I've been thinking. I

454
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: think about it often because I have to remind myself

455
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: that what I'm doing now with the podcast is all

456
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: a part of this just grand plan, just like it

457
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: is for Krista too, Like I think the podcast is

458
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: a highlight and will be a highlight of my life,

459
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't want to say that like

460
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going to act again because I have podcast.

461
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: I think that I'm going to have opportunities to act

462
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: and write and saying I'm making music right now, like

463
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: it's just not happening in the order that I planned

464
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: or the way that I planned. And the less I

465
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: fight it and the more that I just pour into

466
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: the things that are in front of me and excited about,

467
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, these unexpected things that I never thought would

468
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: be my life the happier I am.

469
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: Did you have a time where you were so overly

470
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: frustrated that the path wasn't what you envision that helped

471
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: you get to this mental state?

472
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'm trying to think of like when

473
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: that was specifically. I definitely think there were points in

474
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: New York, and then there were points when I came

475
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: out here to LA and I get tripped up when

476
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I think about the people who not only have helped

477
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: and supported me, like my parents mainly my family, but

478
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: they also thought my life was going to be a

479
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: certain way and I had to let go of living

480
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: up to what they expected of my life because I'm

481
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: going to show them that it's going to be even better.

482
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: And it's not about showing them in a way that's like,

483
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: it's like I want them to feel really good too

484
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: about like the way they are as parents and people,

485
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: and I just want them to I want them to

486
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: be proud of me, you know what I mean. And

487
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: that's when I get tripped up sometimes because I'm like shit,

488
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: like I haven't you know, been on an audition an

489
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: X amount of time and what's happening. But I know

490
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: in the deepest part of my soul that like the

491
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: way my career is happening is is new, meaning like

492
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: it hasn't been done this way before, and I'm really

493
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: excited by it now. You know, I'm kind of like

494
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: new Paradigm'm kind of paving not paying me the way

495
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: because I don't know who's behind me. In terms of that,

496
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, like I don't have anyone to

497
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: look to for this because I'm doing it for the

498
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: first time. So this podcasting thing, like I know, will

499
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 1: just give us a larger audience. And if say I

500
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: make music and they want to listen to my music, amazing,

501
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just for me, this

502
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: is my intention, like one like to impact people in

503
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: a positive way, and I want to relate to people

504
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: like I want to make them feel like them, like

505
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: they can be themselves, like they don't have to be

506
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: alone and what they're going through. And I always want

507
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: to be creating, you know, whether in the podcast or

508
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: outside of the podcast, Like that gives me life. If

509
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: my music never makes me money, I'm good. Yeah, I

510
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: feel that you're like speaking, do I want to make

511
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: money doing music, of course, but like I'm not in

512
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: it to like make a bajillion dollars. I think I

513
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: think the stars will allign and where I will get

514
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: beautiful opportunities to share my music and if that is

515
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: able to be a part of part of my income, beautiful.

516
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to be upset, you know what

517
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: i mean. Yeah, it doesn't happen that way.

518
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you're speaking to my soul on the relationships

519
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: front and the communication front and like just opening up

520
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: a space where people feel safe to be themselves. It's

521
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: the most empowering and beautiful thing when you can look

522
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: at someone and you can tell by the way that

523
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: their eyes listen that they feel comfortable.

524
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: With you totally. So that's really special.

525
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: So you meet Christa and she's auditioning for Soul Psychle

526
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: and how does that go for her?

527
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: So she auditioned twice if I'm remembering correctly, and she

528
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: didn't end up making it, And it's just funny because

529
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, like she should have made it. Yeah,

530
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: and I liken it too. It's like when you're trying

531
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: to get into college and they're looking for like an

532
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: obo player, do you know what I mean, and you're

533
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: not a Nobo player and you're like, but I got

534
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: straight a's in this and that and whatever. It's just

535
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: like what they were looking for at the time, and

536
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: she would have been an incredible instructor, but like then

537
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have started the podcast. Yeah, so like

538
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: it all just worked out so perfectly and she's really

539
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: found her purpose.

540
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Talk to me about starting the podcast aside from the

541
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: six months that you guys sat in the closet and

542
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: played pretend like the actual launch of the pod.

543
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all about consistency. You know. We made

544
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: sure to have five to eight episodes in the bucket

545
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: to make sure we had that lined up. I think

546
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: we released three at once in the beginning so people

547
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: can get a taste of, like what's going on with

548
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: almost thirty. Naming the show was interesting because you know,

549
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: we're not almost thirty anymore, so people ask us all

550
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: the time, Okay, so you're not a missurity what's happening?

551
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: But you know, we like to confuse people and starting

552
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: the pod, we had no idea, no idea what we

553
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: were doing, but we trusted each other, we respected each other,

554
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: we believed in our idea, and the impact that it

555
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: can make. And we just showed up for it every

556
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: single day without fail, every single day. And at the time,

557
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Krista had quit her full time job to pursue blogging

558
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: full time at one point, like very very early on

559
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: in the podcast, and it was rough. It was really rough,

560
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: because you know, she's an incredible blogger, such a good writer,

561
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: and so so funny and relatable, but it's hard. It's

562
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: hard to make a living, a full blown living out

563
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: the gate and so what she recommends now is like

564
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: having that full time job and doing the blog on

565
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: the side until you gain that momentum and all of that.

566
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, she was blocking full time we were doing

567
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: the podcast, but it allowed us to have that time

568
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: to record, you know what I mean. We wouldn't have

569
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: had that time if she had a full time job

570
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: in the beginning. So it was showing up every single

571
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: day we were recording. And because aside.

572
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: From this right now, you are teaching at Soul Cycle

573
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: and you're doing the pod.

574
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, exactly, I was doing some fit modeling out

575
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: here in LA I'm always like hustling a little something

576
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: on the side. But yeah, it was the pod, and

577
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: it was soul cycle. But I'm teaching fifteen classes a week,

578
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: riding every one of them, traveling to Newport for three

579
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: of those days, which is at least an hour each way.

580
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I would hustle back from class, we'd have

581
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: an interview, like it was just like wild times, like

582
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: really wild. Not always fun, but we just did not

583
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: give up. It was not an option. So we released

584
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: once a week and then maybe like six or seven

585
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: months in, we pitched some brands that Christa had worked

586
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: with for her blog to advertise on the podcast, and

587
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: they said yes. So those were our first advertiser advertisers.

588
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: It was really exciting, you know, to make a little

589
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: to break even. We had put a lot of money

590
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: into whether it was renting a studio because we rented

591
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: a studio for a little bit, then getting equipment, paying

592
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: people to edit the show, paying people to like run

593
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: this soundboard at the studio, because we didn't know what

594
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: the hell we were doing to travel to you know,

595
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: all these things that we were paying for, which you know,

596
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: we didn't mind. It was just what we wanted to do.

597
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: But we broke We started to break even, which was

598
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: really really nice, and yeah, it just grew organically from there,

599
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: and we started to meet our community in person pretty

600
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: early on.

601
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's really interesting because that's something

602
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: that I've started to do as well, with like maybe

603
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: an event every quarter or so, whether it's here in

604
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: New York or wherever I'm traveling too, which is always

605
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: just so again like that IRL.

606
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Connection and nothing is like it for you.

607
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: What interests me specifically is like I have a background

608
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: in editorial and writing for magazines and developing like so

609
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: many relationships for the past six or seven years where

610
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: I've been exclusively in the wellness industry, so a lot

611
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: of connects. Yeah, So when you're pitching your new podcast

612
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 2: and finding guests, how are you positioning yourself? What are

613
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: you saying to get your foot in the door, Because

614
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the power of an ask, and

615
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: I think that's the first thing that everyone always says.

616
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: It's like I just asked, Yeah, but you had to

617
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: do a lot of digging to like find out who

618
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: to ask.

619
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do you have to do your research.

620
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: And I think you know asking your friends being like hey,

621
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: do you know anyone do you know anyone who works

622
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: for a brand like in the health of mode of

623
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: space or what have you or do you know anyone

624
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: who knows so and so, Like just really asking people

625
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: who you care about and who you respect and who

626
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: will support you. You'll never know until you ask, and

627
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: then doing your research like on LinkedIn, like who handles

628
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: the budget for marketing for certain brands and just going

629
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: going for them, having a pitch email ready, so something

630
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: that's really short, sus sainct, powerful, specific. It gives them

631
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: who you are, what your whole deal is mission, you know,

632
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: anything that aligns with theirs is really great. And then

633
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, complimenting their show brand, whatever it is, like

634
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: I use your toothpaste every single day, Like my teeth

635
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: have never been wider. And I started this, We started

636
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: this podcast, and we have a community of this demo

637
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: and we'd love to share them with our audience. Blah

638
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: blah blah. Pe'd like to like continue the conversation. Do

639
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: let us know you know, whatever it is, but you'll

640
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: never know. Oh and we got it at the right time. Yeah, literally,

641
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: the timing of it all was quite divine. So you know,

642
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: now if we started it would be a little more

643
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: difficult totally, but not impossible. Yeah, you know, anyone can

644
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: be successful in podcasting. Now there's so much money in podcasting,

645
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: so much opportunity.

646
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: It's very, very very exciting on the early tip when

647
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: you think about like the first people that you sat

648
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: down with, who do you reflect on as like your

649
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: first get that was like, holy shit, we're doing this.

650
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a really good question. I should like

651
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: do research before these I'm like, how many? Because we've

652
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: done like three hundred episodes. I think it was less

653
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: about the person because we've had some pretty incredible people

654
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: on that. I'm like, whoa, this person's in my kitchen.

655
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: But it's really about these conversations. I'm like, WHOA, I

656
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: would never be having these conversations and if it wasn't

657
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: for this pod, you know, so whether it's about you know,

658
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: really intimate conversations about like sex and relationships and masculine

659
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: feminine energies and in relationship and what that means to

660
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Kristin and I and our experience, and or talking to

661
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, our friend Alok, who is a gender non

662
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: binary performing artist and they are changing the world and

663
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: it's you know, not many people know about them, and

664
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: it's in those moments I just feel so lucky that

665
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: we get that we're able to have people on give

666
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: them a platform to speak about, you know, issues like

667
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's transgender, gender, non binary, and making

668
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: sure that they are treated as human beings on this planet. Yeah,

669
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and with the same rights,

670
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: same respect, same love. I mean, it's just it's those

671
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: conversations that remind me like why we do this, you know? Yeah?

672
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: So, I mean from early on, you definitely felt so

673
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: purpose driven. You have to feel that way when you're

674
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: building something, impouring so much of yourself and your money

675
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: and you're just like excited to break even, but again

676
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: gaining so much from your guests as well. When you

677
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: bring this into the world and you start meeting your

678
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: community in person and people know things intimate details about

679
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: your life, is there anything like from the get go

680
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: that you reflect on and you're like, wow, that was

681
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: such a moment for us.

682
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think especially with Kristin and I share our

683
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: solo episodes, you know, and we've shared very honestly from

684
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: the get go, and it has not been received well

685
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: by everyone in our lives, you know, especially family, close

686
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: friends who are like I just heard this on the

687
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: podcast and I didn't know that, so you know, and hey, listen,

688
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, I love and respect every one of those sentiments,

689
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: and this is my choice, you know what I mean,

690
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: just as long as I'm not hurting anyone when I'm

691
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: saying these things. I think it's more of like people

692
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: are just getting used to the fact that, like we're

693
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: pretty public, you know, so it might make them feel

694
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: a certain way, like oh you've changed, or like how

695
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: could you not tell me first? Or which is you know,

696
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: things I've felt before too about other people. So I

697
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: totally get it. But I am I think I've become

698
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more aware of what I share on

699
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. Doesn't mean I hold back too much, but

700
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just aware of what I want to

701
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: keep private, you know. But in terms of our solo

702
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: episodes that I mentioned, like, you know, my Sacredness of

703
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: being single episode, I was quite a while ago, but

704
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really pivotal episode for me

705
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: to share because I mean I had been single for

706
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: six seven years and just felt like I had reached

707
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the point in me in my evolution during that time

708
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh my god, I get it,

709
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: like I get it this time, Like it's so important.

710
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: This is so special, Like when else will I be

711
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: single like this and able to really give myself love

712
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: and time and freedom to explore who I am and

713
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: like how much I love myself and all this stuff,

714
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: you know. And so I wanted to share that so

715
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: badly because I would always get messages from girls who

716
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: were also single, because I was like the token thinkle girl,

717
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: which is so sweet and I love that, and I

718
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: was like, you know, they would always say like, oh,

719
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: like how long is it gonna take? Like where is he?

720
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like or she you know, I'm like I realized.

721
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: I was like, we're all experiencing this from the wrong perspective,

722
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: like we really just shift it into this is a

723
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: sacred time. And yeah, I thought that was really really

724
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: impactful for me to share.

725
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: When you are building this, like how are you emotionally,

726
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Like how are you feeling about the direction that your

727
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: life is going?

728
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Are you feeling lonely? Yeah? I don't feel lonely. I'm

729
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: kind of a loner by nature. I like to have

730
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: my alone time. I recharged by myself, so generally I

731
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: don't feel loneliness, but I do, you know, as we

732
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: are building this and as it's getting bigger, and we're

733
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: having these important conversations and starting these incredible new projects.

734
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm on the daily being confronted with parts of me

735
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: that I'm super insecure about, so mainly as it relates

736
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: to business, and I'm really trying to face it head

737
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: on and just jump in, not afraid to make mistakes

738
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: because I have this like worthiness thing when I make mistakes,

739
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: that I'm not worthy to be a part of this,

740
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: and that Christa is much better at this than I.

741
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: So why I am you know, like all these stories

742
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: and it's been vital for she and I to share

743
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: these inner monologues because she has some of them too,

744
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So as founders, as friends,

745
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: as business partners, like we need to be in constant

746
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: communication about this stuff, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

747
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: it's it's building a baby like this will confront you,

748
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: like if you have some shit to work through, it's

749
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: going to come up. One hundred percent, it's going to

750
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: come up. And you know, I think we both began

751
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: our beginning to think about life in the future, you

752
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we want this to live forever.

753
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: I think our partner will probably evolve whatever that looks

754
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: like but you know, of course, like Chris is engaged,

755
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: she's going to get married, and I am in a

756
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: new relationship, and it's just like thinking about that part

757
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: of your life, that personal part, yeah, and giving love

758
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: to that too, because that you know, that's very important.

759
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: We don't want to neglect it.

760
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: So what we haven't covered yet is your decision to

761
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: stop teaching at Soul Cycle. Yeah, so let's talk about that.

762
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that was about a year ago, December twenty eighteen,

763
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: and you know, it just it was the right time.

764
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: I like felt very I was run ragged in terms

765
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: of teaching and doing the podcast. The podcast was growing,

766
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: I was touring. So I went part time with Whole

767
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Cycle at first and was teaching like four to six

768
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: classes a week. I was touring and I was taking

769
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: off a lot. I was like, ah, this isn't fair

770
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: to the people, you know. So Christa was actually the

771
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: first one that took the leap in June, and you know,

772
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: I was so proud of her, like it just took

773
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: a lot to do that and we had the means,

774
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, to do that. And then I went in

775
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: December and it was really hard. I missed the community.

776
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: I loved people who rode with me on a regular basis.

777
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: I loved the creativity and creating an experience for people.

778
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: I loved leading people in something like that, and it

779
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: was a release for me too. But I think my

780
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: body's super happy, way more relaxed. Like I do yoga,

781
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: I walk, I'll do like strength training and maybe one

782
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: high intensity a week, you know. So my body is

783
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: so much happier.

784
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: I even imagine, like your hips after fifteen sixteen classes

785
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: a week.

786
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: It's funny. I didn't have hip problems. It's weird, but

787
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. A lot of people have

788
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: hip and knee problems. I did not. Maybe I will

789
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: eventually not God would. But for me, it was just

790
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: the adrenals they were shot. My body was stressed, like

791
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: I needed to stop.

792
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: When I was teaching. The biggest problem that I found

793
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: was that my voice. Yeah, I couldn't have a podcast

794
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: and teach even for five classes a week.

795
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, my voice was a huge Yeah. I mean I'm

796
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: recording a solo episode on it right now. It's like

797
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: it's a It's one of the relationships me and my

798
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: voice that has taught me a lot. It's just such

799
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: a mirror for everything that's going on in my life

800
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: outside of me and internally. So yeah, I mean when

801
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: we started the podcast, I was teaching a ton, but

802
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I was also like drinking on the weekends and partying

803
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: and then also working out the same, like working out

804
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: in the mornings and just running myself ragged and I

805
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: would lose my voice completely and we'd have to cancel recordings.

806
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been there.

807
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: The day before I interviewed Ruth Zuckerman, I had taught

808
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: what was I don't think it was my final class,

809
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: but it was toward the end.

810
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: I was teaching at a spin studio in New York.

811
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was okay when I left the class

812
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: at like nine am, and by eleven am the day before,

813
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: like I had no sound whatsoever. And I was so

814
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: amped to sit down with her, and I was so

815
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: mad at myself that I'd put myself in that position,

816
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: and I googled and instagram storied and was just like

817
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: looking for all the answers and I went mute from

818
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 2: like eleven fifteen am when I learned that I should

819
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: stop trying to make sounds until literally, like I think

820
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: we sat down at nine thirty the next day until

821
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: like nine twenty six, and I just prayed that everything

822
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: was going to be okay, and it was fine, and

823
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: we did it, and then I was like never again,

824
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: Like I can't risk this when you have like these

825
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: big goals and aspirations and you want to bring these

826
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: conversations to life, like I know, you feel so passionately

827
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: about like just this opportunity to bring these people and

828
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: the issues that they speak about and what they have

829
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: to say to the world, like into the world.

830
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, And yeah, it was scary. It is scary.

831
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Where the heck did you go? You just went ariel

832
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: on us and like there was nothing you can do about.

833
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so you leave Soul Cycle and then how does

834
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: your heart feel?

835
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: So after leaving Soul Cycle, I don't know. Like I

836
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: was so happy and so proud that we were able

837
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: to do that, and also like I was just getting

838
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: to know myself in a new flow. I was like

839
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: a Soul Cycle instructor for four and a half years.

840
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: That was my every day and it was in your

841
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: Instagram bio. So that made you who you are? Yeah now, yeah,

842
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was it was interesting, but overall, so

843
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: so happy, so much more time and energy to pour

844
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: into the podcast, to pour into anything else that I

845
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do. And I learned so much and I

846
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: met so many incredible, incredible people after after I quit,

847
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: we really we ramped up the tour in the new year.

848
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: So twenty nineteen we toured all year and I and

849
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: had some really incredible experiences like ayahuasca, going to on site,

850
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: just lots. I started therapy, so it was like a

851
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: really big year. We share that big year. I started

852
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: therapy last year too, so amazing, Yeah, scarying, It's good. Yeah,

853
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: it's so good, so good, so delayed.

854
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: I will say that the episode the solo I did

855
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: on saying like I finally went to therapy was like

856
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 2: the biggest conversation starter for like everyone, like everyone wanted

857
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: to talk about going to therapy. Yeah, because I think

858
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: for so many it feels like something that I don't

859
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: know how to say this the right way, Like it's

860
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: not for me, Like I don't I don't need to

861
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: go to therapy. Whine with my best friend is just

862
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: like therapy. But it not. Oh man, I've heard that

863
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: so many times. Yeah, it's it's not, and it's I.

864
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Wouldn't say like everyone needs to go to therapy, Like

865
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: do you whatever you feel? But it changed my life. Yeah,

866
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: I feel that.

867
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: And I mean revert for a moment back to before

868
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: you felt like really empowered by the single phase. Did

869
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: you have a phase or a period inside the single

870
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: phase that was like self destructive is a strong, strong term,

871
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: but like where you just kind of fucking lost it.

872
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah I didn't. It's like I just didn't respect myself,

873
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: you know. And I and if you asked me at

874
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: that at that time, do you respect yourself? I'd be like, yeah,

875
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: but like the way I was acting was not respecting myself,

876
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: which is like going after guys who were emotionally unavailable,

877
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: just having sex with a lot of people, like you

878
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just find like filling myself up

879
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: in ways that like now I'd be like, oh, okay,

880
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: that's not how you fill yourself up, girl. But I

881
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: was also living in New York at the time. I

882
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: was at a coming out of a long term relationship

883
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: that I blew up that I mentioned, And yeah, I

884
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: just I didn't like myself, so therefore I didn't think

885
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: that anyone could. Really I was going subconsciously going after

886
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: people who didn't really respect me anyway. Yeah, I hear you.

887
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: I do it all the time.

888
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does life look like for you these days?

889
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: And I know obviously like, no two days are the

890
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: same thing.

891
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's true, No two days are the same.

892
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: But life, life is so good. We're trying to create

893
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: more space this year, so tour will be at the

894
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: second half of the year. But we're you know, our

895
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: days are spent either recording, we're working with the team.

896
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: We're working on launching your podcast pro for people who

897
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: want to launch Girl Monetize, a podcast that's going to

898
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: be huge. We feel so passionately about helping people do that.

899
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're writing a book, we are working

900
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: on like merch and we're working you know, all this stuff.

901
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: It's just it's really exciting. There's many things going on.

902
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: And some days I'm like, Lindsa, you are not gonnat multitasker.

903
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: And some days I'm like, you're fucking amazing at multitasking.

904
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: So I feel like different people. Some days we have

905
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, photo shoots for this and that, and that

906
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: sounds like, oh that sounds fun and it and it is,

907
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 1: but it's also worked too, you know what I mean,

908
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: like it's an interesting thing when people see things from

909
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: the outside. Yeah, they're like, oh my god, they do

910
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: photo shoots all day. Cool, and it is cool and

911
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: we work with incredible creatives to create those and it's work.

912
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: And it's stressful, and no one talks about like your

913
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: self image and how you feel when you need to

914
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: stand in a camera for the eight thousand time this year.

915
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's really good. Like it's good in the sense,

916
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: like it really again, is that mirror that makes you

917
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: look like all right, that self worth thing is coming up,

918
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: that body image thing is coming up, Like where can

919
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: I like really fine tune that relationship with my body?

920
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, yeah, it's so much deeper than that.

921
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Yeah, totally.

922
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: And I don't mean to say that as in a

923
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: way that comes off like ungrateful for opportunities that.

924
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: Come up clost because that is so not how it

925
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: feels when they come my way.

926
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that despite having like a journey

927
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: that's gotten you to somewhere that you're so proud of

928
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: that you aren't going to feel so many moments of

929
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: weakness and just like what that like pulse check all

930
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: the time.

931
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're doing all the things. Now what excites

932
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: you right now? I'm so excited to like step into

933
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: like confident me in this business this year. Like I'm

934
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: really down and I'm really ready and I'm really down

935
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: to step into that. Lindsay that communicates everything that's on

936
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: her mind. It does so with grace and love. You know.

937
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: I tend to not communicate all that I'm feeling and

938
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: thinking because i think I'm going to hurt people or whatever.

939
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to step into that. I'm in

940
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: a new relationship and it's amazing and I'm so excited

941
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: about that, like best feeling. He's he's my person. It's

942
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: the best, Like I'm just I Yeah, it's so good.

943
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: And so he's my equal and he just makes me

944
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: feel like I can do anything. You know. It's like

945
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: it's just the best feeling. So I'm really really excited

946
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: about that. And I'm excited to make music this year.

947
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: So I'm making music and it's something that I've always

948
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: wanted to do. And again, it's like it's going to

949
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: reach who it's going to reach, and I'm going to

950
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: be so happy.

951
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: You learned a really important lesson that you shared back

952
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: in high school about handling people with grace and understanding

953
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: that when someone comes at you in some kind of

954
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: way that usually it means that they're dealing with something.

955
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: When it comes to the last two plus years now

956
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: of building almost thirty three years, what would you say has.

957
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: Been one of the most valuable lessons that you've learned.

958
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: I think, just like that I'm worth it. So whether

959
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: that means like, should I say that yeah, because I'm

960
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: worth it, or should I pursue that because I love it? Yeah,

961
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: like I am, I'm totally worth it, you know, not

962
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: worrying about what other people think or what they expect

963
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: of me. It's really tuning in to who I am,

964
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: honoring what I need, what I want to create. So yeah,

965
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: it's that worthiness thing that I've I've really learned, and

966
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: that has magnetized a lot of amazing things to me,

967
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: including that relationship, because I don't think if I didn't

968
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: feel like I was worthy, if I didn't love myself like,

969
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: I would not have attracted that.

970
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally at all. Yeah, And I mean when it

971
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: comes to so much of you giving yourself to someone else.

972
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: But then in addition, like the bigger population in your community.

973
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: What has been something.

974
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: That you've learned now that you have this great opportunity,

975
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: now that you are constantly interacting with so many people,

976
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: so many people are following you and trying to keep

977
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: up with you, Like, what have you learned about how

978
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: to either manage that or interact with that.

979
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Or Yeah, especially as a release to social media, like

980
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: be myself one hundred percent all the time, you myself

981
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: because like it's because then it's not work, you know

982
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because social media can quickly become work

983
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: and annoying. And I have some days where I'm like

984
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: this and it's not saying fuck this to the people.

985
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: It's like just this this like platform, like like let me.

986
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: I just don't want to feel like a like I'm

987
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: so attached to it and I'm not. I just want

988
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: to feel free on it. I just want to create

989
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: and post whatever I want and express myself, you know

990
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. And then I feel like the people

991
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: who want to follow me and interact with me will

992
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: and those that don't want and that's cool, Yeah, you

993
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, yeah, I think just the

994
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: being yourself thing, which I'm so lucky with the podcast

995
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: christ and I get to be ourselves like it's the best,

996
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: you know. But I especially for people out there who

997
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: are like trying to build their business online with social media,

998
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: like be yourself, tell your story, be legit, but also

999
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: just be yourself because like no one's your you know

1000
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. So like I trust that, like my experience,

1001
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: my weirdness is just going to attract the people. You know,

1002
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: they're supposed to follow me.

1003
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: The people all right, Well, all those people that are

1004
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: following you, they look at your social media and they

1005
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: see now a co founder, a passionate woman that is

1006
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: confident and knows who she is. When you look in

1007
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: the mirror, is that what you see looking back at

1008
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: you or what do you say?

1009
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I do, I really really do even this

1010
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: look that I'm rocking now, I'm like you passionate confident woman. No,

1011
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: but I do. I think air Force ones say passionate

1012
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: and confident, Like I just I don't know. I'm like

1013
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm at that, I'm thirty two. I'm like, I don't know,

1014
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: it feels very good. I don't I care a lot less.

1015
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: I just I honor my body, like you know, I'm

1016
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: I think the anxiety is I have to work on

1017
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: the judgment around my process in learning things. But other

1018
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: than that, like when I look at myself and was like, yeah, girl,

1019
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, like you're amazing and you're doing it.

1020
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: Different answer a year ago. Yeah, maybe maybe slightly different.

1021
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: I think therapy definitely helped. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

1022
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: Last question, Yeah, you have an opportunity right now to

1023
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: offer the Lindsay a piece of advice who is in

1024
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: New York and working three different bartending jobs and doing

1025
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: fit modeling and then at soul cycle and like feels

1026
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: like she is just at her breaking point. Yeah, you

1027
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to offer Lindsay during that hurdle moment

1028
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: one piece of advice.

1029
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: What is it that you tell her? Looking back on

1030
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: it now, I'd be like, look at me. Don't look

1031
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: at any of the hot finance guys around you, because

1032
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: they're douche pigs right now and they're point in life.

1033
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: Look at me and just know that all of this

1034
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: is so purposeful, Like you're gonna you're gonna have a

1035
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: field day connecting the dots to everything you're experiencing now

1036
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: to who you're becoming from the people that you're meeting

1037
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: from learning how to type in a cash tip into

1038
00:57:54,320 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: the cash register machine, bingie, like everything is so perfect

1039
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: and like just trust this time, like you will never

1040
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: this is fleeting. It is so fleeting, and you're doing

1041
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: great and you never ever have to change who you

1042
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: are in order for someone to love you, for someone

1043
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: to cast you, period, period. Thanks, You're welcome.

1044
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: Please take a moment and leave a quick review by

1045
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We

1046
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: all face multiple hordes in life. I want to hear

1047
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle

1048
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: Dot you as connect with the podcast on Instagram and

1049
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: Twitter at Hurdle Podcast. Lindsay where do they find you?

1050
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: How do they keep up with Almost thirty give me

1051
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: the deats? Yeah, so they can follow me on Instagram

1052
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: at Lindsaysimsic sim cik. I love talking to people on there,

1053
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: and then almost thirty. You could listen everywhere podcasts are,

1054
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: which is Apple Podcasts, Spotify, et cetera. You can find

1055
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Speaker 2: us on YouTube as well and then Instagram at almost thirty.

1056
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Speaker 1: Three zero podcast.

1057
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: And that's it. Yeah, another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys

1058
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: next time.

1059
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Ex girl