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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I am Rashwan McDonald, the host

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Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald, our host

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Speaker 1: a weekly and money Making Conversation Master Class show. The

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Speaker 1: interviews and information is that this show provides off for everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start.

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Speaker 2: Living your own.

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Speaker 1: My guest is the founder of the Universe Soul Circus,

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Speaker 1: an African American man who had a vision of creating

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Speaker 1: a circus with a large percentage of people of color performing.

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Speaker 1: Is based in Atlanta, Georgia. Please he's work with the

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Mister Cedric Walker, how you doing, Cedric? Hey, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I are you and thank you a lot this opportunity,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's great. First of all taking the time

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Speaker 1: to come to my show.

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Speaker 2: I know you're.

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Speaker 1: Traveling around the world and around the country of the

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Speaker 1: United States.

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Speaker 2: What city are you in right now?

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Speaker 1: That's in New Orleans, Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good Cajun food.

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Speaker 1: Good food down there that if everybody wants to Now

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Speaker 1: you know you're traveling man, and I traveled Like when

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Speaker 1: I was ninety four, I wanted to be a stand

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Speaker 2: I want to a tease said.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be the next Richard Pride.

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Speaker 2: I thought I would be next Adye Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Now in eighteen ninety four, you had an idea about

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Speaker 2: How can that happen?

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Speaker 1: Please help explain it to my audience, because it sounds

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Speaker 1: incredible to me. A vision will come to you like that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So we were doing gospel plays.

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Speaker 3: We actually had a play.

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Speaker 1: I was working on a play called Wicked Ways and

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Speaker 1: with Michael Matthews out of Detroit, and Wicked Ways was

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Speaker 1: about a lot of the challenges that our community faces.

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Speaker 1: It dealt with It dealt with kids growing up in

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Speaker 1: And I asked the play right, I said, man, this

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Speaker 3: I know it's clean. I asked Mike, and he said.

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Speaker 1: It's because theater is the oldest form of entertainment and

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Speaker 1: went all the way back to be or not to be.

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Speaker 1: You could look on that stage, on the Shakespearean plays

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Speaker 3: At itself do these plays.

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Speaker 1: So that triggered the idea to create something that, because

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Speaker 1: Of my job reading about black entertainment from the turn

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Speaker 1: But it was all having something for every generation of

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Speaker 1: We probably bopped here's a couple of times in a

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Speaker 1: Promably, both both black and white. I had fun in

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Speaker 1: Bundy guys, and they all just said me, you are correct,

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Speaker 1: Let well not go circus. Wow, you know that was

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Speaker 1: But it was challenging because we get stereotype, you know,

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Speaker 1: And also that means the world can stereotype of. So

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Speaker 1: I commend you in pushing back and say, look, I

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Speaker 2: This could work.

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Speaker 1: And then thirty years later, because you're celebrating your thirtieth

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Speaker 1: year of Universal Circus Zoul, I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: Resaw version, but either way it got a lot of

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Speaker 1: soul than the brother. And so the name, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: correct Universal.

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Speaker 1: Name was Universal. I was back and forth with my

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Speaker 1: we were we asked them back, well, we want to

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Speaker 1: You look around at the daff going told you now

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Speaker 1: to follow my original idea, we wouldn't even be it.

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Speaker 1: This is the good part of it, you know, because

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Speaker 1: what it took to do Circus. But I do want

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Speaker 1: to say that we started in nineteen ninety four in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and vision for it was to uplift and celebrate the

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Speaker 1: positive achievements and cultural contributions of African Americans through a

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Speaker 3: In the show what you saw.

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Speaker 1: It's that feeling that they get once they come under

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Speaker 3: But I saw it now.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know our audience, you know, we can't

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Speaker 2: People, you know, black people.

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Speaker 1: No, I went around the world and and just looked

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Speaker 1: A lot of manure, uh in right here in America.

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Speaker 1: The King Charles True playing basketball on unicycles, just stuff

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Speaker 3: Unicycles was the only thing. We were the only ones

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Speaker 1: hides and oh, Pamela's gonna be there.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there. King Charles is gonna be there.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat it.

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Speaker 3: So it was amazing the.

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Speaker 1: Quality of black entertainment even back then in circus art.

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Speaker 3: That we'll society forward.

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Speaker 1: So we try to inspire that new direction and wherever

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of more organic.

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Speaker 1: It's just a platform for young people to express new

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Speaker 1: some states wouldn't. But but but what we what we

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Speaker 1: found out is that our cultural artistry, our who we

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Speaker 1: that the family unit where you're all we're all grandmother again, grandmother,

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Speaker 1: Thus all is to stay authentically black, period and how

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Speaker 2: What's on the horizon?

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Speaker 5: and did the little dance and hit every word and

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Speaker 5: it was just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But thank you for fighting me down.

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Speaker 1: There to see history, my brother, because you're making history. Man.

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Speaker 1: It was diversity, the safety, the professionalism walking in that door. Man.

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Speaker 1: It was just a clean environment, safe environment. And again,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, universe soul circus starts on time. Remember that.

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Speaker 1: Don't let nobody push no stereotype. I'm not saying this

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Speaker 1: black things, you know cpee time, you know it gonna

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Speaker 1: start with It's gonna start not their circus, my brother,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the time, Thank you, thank you so much,

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