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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff Mom Never Told You?

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Speaker 1: From House stu Words dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline, and we are

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Speaker 1: talking today about mediums. Some might confuse them with psychics,

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Speaker 1: but I say that mediums are a little bit different, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mediums use their bodies and their brains a sort of

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Speaker 1: like using esp and stuff supposedly, supposedly. And this might

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Speaker 1: seem like quite an out of the blue, left field

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Speaker 1: about on the podcast, because we haven't talked about religion

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Speaker 1: all that much on Stuff Mom Never Told You. But

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Speaker 1: come to find out, talking about mediums in Victoria in

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Speaker 1: America and the related religion of spiritualism is so apt

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Speaker 1: to all of our discussions about women and gender inequality, because,

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Speaker 1: come to find out, there is a surprisingly strong connection

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Speaker 1: between early feminism and suffrage movement and spiritualism. Right, women

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Speaker 1: definitely had a place in spiritualism that they weren't afforded

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Speaker 1: in other more mainstream Puritan inspired religion. Uh. And just

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Speaker 1: to give you a little bit of background, spiritualism came

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Speaker 1: about in eighteen forty eight, although it is rooted back

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Speaker 1: to other ancient religions. Uh. And we were jumping off

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Speaker 1: from a book called Talking to the Other Side by

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Speaker 1: Todd Jay Leonard. Right. In eighteen forty eight, two wily

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Speaker 1: I guess if we're making up names. Um. They used

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Speaker 1: to see them and and witnessed this crazy spiritual phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: And P. T. Barnum even swooped in and brought them

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Speaker 1: I think there were three sisters total, two of them

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