WEBVTT - Mavericks Protest Loss To Warriors On Strange Play 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:06.680 You're tuned into Heat Check with Tristal Quick. On this 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:12.040 episode of the Heat Check, really really sad news out 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.240 of LA and for once, it does not involve the 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:22.360 LA Lakers. Paul George hurt his knee and might have 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.079 just screwed up the chances for the LA Clippers and 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.240 their title hopes. We break down the weirdest play of 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.720 the year in the Mavericks Warriors game from last night, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.280 which is now under protest. Didn't even know that was 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.440 a thing, really, Jalen Brown is finally speaking, and damn 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.080 does he have some shit to say, Plus some more 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.879 news from around the league less than three weeks to 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.159 go Nick before we get into the play in so 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.680 do me a favor and drop that generic gas beat. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.000 Thank God, when we're talking about LA it's not about 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.280 the Lakers. We do have something to talk about the 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:06.080 Lakers later on the show. It's good stuff, though. Paul Torch, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.680 who was having himself a big time redemption arc story, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:15.280 playing really well, actually a likable person so far this year, 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.479 was awkwardly hitting the knee in a game on Wednesday 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.600 and now most likely out for the year. That is rough. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.479 He left the arena in crutches. He left the arena 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.119 on a cart. Sham's immediately noted that the franchisees had 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.880 very big concerns that the injury was quote unquote serious. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.000 If you watch the video of him and getting injured, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.240 don't according to the WOJE bomb. Boo, this is the bomb. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.520 This is the sound of the woj bomb. PG got 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.840 imaging on his knee. It revealed that he just has 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.640 a right knee sprain. He will be evaluated in two 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.080 to three weeks. That is a relief. That is a 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:58.000 big time relief because hey torn something or other. Meniscus, ACL, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.000 MCL PCL put what have been a really bad situation. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:06.160 But it still is not a good scenario because that 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.080 puts PG perilously close to missing the first round of 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.320 the playoffs considering that evaluation, if everything goes perfect, requires 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.760 a week of ramp up just to start playing again, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.919 probably then on a minute's restriction. I'm not saying it's 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.600 done for good, but the timing on the injury could 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:28.280 not have been worse. Clippers currently just trying to stay 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.160 out of the play in tournament. That's it. They're currently 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.280 in fifth place, but they're two games out of tenth place. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:39.480 So losing, Paul George will say, is not really great. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.720 That's how tight the West is. Kawhi is already on 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.399 load management on back to back games. You might have 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.360 multiple games now with no PG and no Kawhi and 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:55.520 just bones Island. Worse worst case scenario for a team 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.200 that I thought could be a sleeper in the West. PG, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.720 like I said, having himself a little bit of a 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:07.560 redemption year, playing really well on the court, averaging twenty 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.680 four six and five, almost forty percent from three and 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.560 started a podcast. That's usually you become less likable when 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.840 you start a podcast. PG actually did the opposite. He 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.320 leaned into the whole like pandemic pee thing. He started 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:29.520 the podcast called Podcast P and he's actually been really 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.400 insightful on there. He had this one clip earlier this 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.920 week where he talked about how everyone was leaving him 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.440 open when he first started playing for the Indiana Pacers 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.640 and he would just shoot and his teammates would get 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.960 so mad at him because he was a But I'm 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.680 open though, and he said, you know what really sunk 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.720 in when Danny Granger told me, why do you think 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.800 they're leaving who wide open? And I thought that was 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:56.880 just such a such a really likable, endearing story, and 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.000 he talks about how he went from being one of 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:00.560 the worst shooters in the league to being one of 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.480 the best two way wings in the league, and yeah, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.600 I've kind of come around. Fun fact, my very first 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:13.240 episode of what was first called This League was starting 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.800 out talking about how much I hated Paul George, how 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.240 much of a bitch I thought Paul George was. I 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.279 take it all back, Paul George, I like you now. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.640 So the Clips were already five and five in their 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.640 last ten games, and now they face the Thunder again, 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.640 who they just lost to when he went down, the 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:36.360 Grizzlies twice with Jaw, the Suns probably not with Kevin Durant, 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.000 but still the Bulls who are playing really good basketball 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.920 with Patrick Beverley, and the Pelicans twice, which I don't 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.040 even know what you're gonna get from that, because maybe 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:50.120 Zion's back. I'm hearing some whispers. Who knows. Then the Lakers, 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.560 that's a scenario potentially where they might not even make 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.120 the playing game. If you're talking about worst case scenarios. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.840 Have the Lakers had the most fluky, weird bad luck 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.240 that we've seen in terms of injuries since Kawhi got 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.320 to this place. Ever since Kawhi's got there, things have 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.640 been weird. I hope the Clippers last long enough for 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.839 Paul George to play again, because I think this team 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.040 could be really great. They're really deep, but only if 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:21.320 he's on the floor. Bomber, the owner, who I don't 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.159 think likes me very much because he moved away from 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.200 me when we sat next to each other watching Summer Leak. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.440 He thought he was slick. He wasn't slick, but he 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.440 moved away from me. I think he's gonna need to 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.880 use some sort of like some sort of like voodoo 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.960 magic or tarot card reader or spend the money on 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.840 whatever it's gonna do to get the juju bad juju 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.480 out of that building and get that franchise uncursed. Because 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.160 it's just been one thing after another with this team 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.840 and it doesn't make no sense moving on. Another thing 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.040 that doesn't make sense was this bizarre situation that happened 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:59.320 in last night's Warriors Mavericks game. So I missed it 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.120 live and then I saw the hubbub on Twitter, and 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.640 then I had to do some digging. This might lead 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:12.400 to being one of only three successful team protests now 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:18.039 in league history. What is a team protest, you might ask, No, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.120 it's not what you think it is. It's where the 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.520 NBA steps in and finds a call so egregious that 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.599 it makes the teams replay the game from the point 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.719 of the egregious thing that happened. So this happened twice 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.440 since nineteen eighty two. The last time in two thousand 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.640 and eight, Shack was wrongly called for a sixth foul 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.240 in the final two minutes of a game when he 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.400 only had five. The game was replayed from the point 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.279 of the foul on four months later, after the game 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:54.560 was originally scheduled. Weird. So what happened in this game, Well, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.680 it depends on who you talk to. The Mavericks are 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.480 very certain that they were fucked over, very certain. The 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.000 Mavericks lost the game by just two points, which really 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.599 felt like more. The end of the game was I 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.760 think five or six points. That was the deficit. But 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.520 they are currently in free fall right we know that 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.280 they are sitting tied for tenth They're a half game 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.920 from being out of the play and altogether, which would 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 be an absolute disaster considering that they went all in 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.600 for Kyrie Irving and it has not worked. But the 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.080 winning margin came in part because of this very strange call. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:36.000 So here's what happened. Five Warriors standing underneath their own basket, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:42.600 and Looney gets the inbounds pass, uncontested dunk. Where was 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.640 the Mavericks defense on this play? Why were they not involved? 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.320 Why were they seemingly on the other side of the 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.080 court doing nothing? Well, because Dallas thought that they had 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.520 the ball. Dallas didn't know why the Warriors were being 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.560 given the ball, but the ref allegedly signaled that the 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:04.680 ball below belonged to Dallas before I guess correcting the 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.040 call during a timeout that was also called by Dallas. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.880 The MAVs are adamant that no one told them that 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.600 there was any change. You look at the spacing on 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.600 the floor. Even one of the officials, Michael Smith, was 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.720 on the offensive end, which Jason Kidd says is evidence 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.080 that there was mass confusion, not just among players but 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.920 even other officials. So now the Warriors get two free 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.880 points and that was the winning margin of a tight game. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.120 Mark Cuban, as you might imagine, owner of the Dallas 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:43.280 Mavericks Shark Tank enthusiast was pissed. He took to Twitter, 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.400 went put his Twitter fingers to work and said this 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.200 for those wondering about the play. With one minute and 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.400 fifty four seconds to go in the third let me 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.599 explain what happened. The ref called MAVs ball, the announcer 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.440 announced it, then there was a time out. During the timeout, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.320 the official changed the call and never told us. Then 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.080 when they saw us lineup as if it were our ball, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.320 he just gave the ball to the Warriors, never said 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.600 a word to us. They get an easy basket. Crazy 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.520 that it would matter in a two point game. Worst 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.040 officiating non call mistake, possibly in the history of the NBA. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.600 All they had to do was tell us, and they didn't. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.720 Have you ever read something and said to yourself, like 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.280 this is a tweet that would be written by Donald Trump, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.240 Like that is one of these situations where it's like 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.320 worst officiating non call mistake, possibly in the history of 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:43.360 the NBA. These superlatives, they just don't stop. So you 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.800 have two refs that were on that side of the court, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.800 and we had two guys at half court going to inbound. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.760 The other ref obviously thought it was our ball as well, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.480 the NBA believes no mistake was made. Shock her that 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.440 the refs think that they've done nothing wrong. When asked 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.160 after the game about the call, Officiating crew Chief Sean 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.280 Wright said, initially on the floor, the original signal was, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.440 in fact Golden State ball. This can be seen on video. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.920 They are bringing receipts. The second there's a second signal, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.200 but that is a signal for the mandatory timeout that 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.840 was due to the mass. So we said, yes, we 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.679 pointed to the mask, but that was just because they 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.880 fucking called the timeout. What are these guys idiots? Were 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.200 they roops? Did they not know? So that's basically what 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.920 they say. I don't understand what's going on. It feels 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.120 like a mass, chaos, confusion. I don't think the protest 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:34.920 is going to be upheld. But I tell you what, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.480 I think the PA announcer is to blame because he's 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.880 the one who announced it was Mavericks ball and the 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:46.200 officiating crew declares that was never the case. But I 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:51.160 would say this, if you hear the announcer say Mavericks ball, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.200 you should probably go over there and say no, it's 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.640 not you know what I mean, Like, no, it's not 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:02.880 Warriors ball. If the game has to be replayed from 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.439 the point of the mistake, you will wipe out all 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.800 the scoring that happened after, and potentially that will alter 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:14.439 both team's futures and fortunes going forward into the playoffs. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.960 And you can see from how contentious this gets where 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.400 you have the owner writing a full memo on Twitter 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.480 that the Mavericks are so desperate right now because they 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.760 are in free fall. One little mistake can send you 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.480 from sixth place to tenth place and potentially out of 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.520 the play in tournament all together. Right they are seven 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.559 and eleven right now since the Kyrie trade. Luca's banged up, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.280 and Kyrie's injured too. He's missing games, the team as 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.520 zero bench. There's no chemistry between Kyrie and Luca. They're 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:51.160 in serious danger of a full collapse, a full rebuild, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.840 Luca asking out. You know, Mark Cuban knows how close 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.160 they are to Luca saying get me the hell out 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.200 of here. He is clinging to every single thing he 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.640 can to keep them in some sort of contention just 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.800 to get into the playoff and let Luca cook. Fortunately 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.199 for the MAVs, the last few games of the season 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.839 are pretty easy. They have the Hornets twice, the Pacers, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.360 the Bulls, who are by the way, playing pretty well 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.559 with Pat Beverley, Hawks and Spurs pretty winnable games if 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.280 Luca plays. But they do have the Heat, the Sixers, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.960 and the Kings all on the schedule as well. Another 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:31.679 thing I think that this game showed me is that 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.600 this is the third straight Warrior game that they've won 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.880 now on the road, and I think the Warriors, the Warriors. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.240 The Warriors could be back. They could be back. Don't 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.679 sell your Warriors tickets yet. This West is a disaster. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.559 Who is going to take the West? My guess is 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.560 as good as yours. But I'll tell you one thing. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.600 The Dubs have championship pedigree in their blood, and they 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.760 know that these these other teams are weak links. They 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.080 know that these teams have it, done it like they've 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.880 done it. I went on the light Years podcast last 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.479 night after the game. By the way, Kamingo was incredible, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:13.880 twenty two points, three, two threes, two steals, just a 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.680 gritty win, probably his best game in his career. So 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.920 I hop on the Warriors podcast called the light Years Podcast, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.360 and we talked about it. Here's what we said. You 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:28.160 look at the Denver defensive efficiency and rating over the 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.160 last like since the All Star Break, and I think 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.559 they're twenty six. They're giving up a ton of offensive rebounds. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.080 What does that mean for guys like Kevon Looney? Like, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.680 what does that mean? Like, so that matchup favors the 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.560 Warriors in my opinion, it does. Still you look at 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.640 the Grizzlies, if the Grizzlies are a two seed in 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.440 your seven seed, and you say to yourself, Okay, well 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.280 we've seen this game, Like we know what it's like 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.400 to have three three point shooter assassins on the team 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.360 against the half court offense that has no shooters. They 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.600 have Desmond Baine and that's it, right, That's why I'm 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.319 he's gonna get some shot. He's gonna get some shots 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.880 of So Jaw's not a three point shooter, Dylan Brooks 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.720 is not a three point shooter. Jaron Jackson's very mid 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.080 from three, and it gets extremely physical. You kind of 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.000 have to give the edge and the history history against 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.760 the Warriors there and then the Kings as much as 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.400 you know, I've been a King's backer pretty much all season, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.720 You say to yourself, Okay, are we gonna make this 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.960 just like an up tempo offensive game like are the 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.520 If you trust one team in a fourth quarter to 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.560 get stops, which out of those two teams do you 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.400 trust to get stops? I trust the Warriors to get stops, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.800 especially if you can get some version of Andrew Wians back. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.240 So one, two, three seeds, I still say Vegas makes 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.160 the Warriors a favorite. So if it's a wide open 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.680 West and there's a team that's been going to finals 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.040 and finals and finals, you think to yourself, well, I 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:58.240 don't know, I don't know. And that's honestly, like nothing 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.440 about this team inspires hope other than the fact that 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.720 everyone else inspires zero amount of hope. And I'm like, well, 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.560 they really just need to get to like two thirds 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.400 of who they are and they might just run the 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.400 table because they're all mediocre. Yeah, I think that's it. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.480 I think that's pretty much it. Everyone stinks the Warriors 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.760 have been doing this since some of these kids were 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.480 in diapers, and that's really it. This is probably Bob 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.320 Myers last year. They're most likely going to change their 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.240 roster around. Do I think that they beat the Kings 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:34.400 in the seven game series? I don't know, but I 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.680 tell you what. They made some good points on that 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.280 pot about if you get one game in Golden One, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.720 especially if you get game one and those those Kings 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.640 fans are already worried about the shoe dropping at any 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.600 moment and them reverting back to King's behavior. You can 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.400 steal their soul. You can steal their soul in forty 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:57.240 eight and at that point anything's possible. The West is 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.040 so chaotic, I think that they it's also possible the 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.320 MAVs could drop five straight and drop out of the 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.120 playing tournament. So that's why Cuban is so adamant about 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:10.440 protesting this game, and it underscores how important every game is. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.960 When a single playoff loss for Dallas because of a 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:18.120 referee era could put them out of the playoffs all twogether. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.640 Fun stuff in the West. What a game? What a game? 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.359 So you know how you can sometimes hear certain players 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.160 not at all. They don't say a peek for years 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:48.680 at a time, and then all of a sudden, the 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.840 floodgates just open up and they just never stopped talking. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.160 It's like, Wow, you had a lot on your mind 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.080 for a while. You've been wanting to spill the tea 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.520 for years and you've just been playing the good soldier. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.919 That folks is Jaylen Brown. Right now, Jalen Brown has 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.520 had enough. There are multiple articles now being written about 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:16.200 Jaylen Brown. He's decided to address literally everything everywhere, all 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.840 at once with the Ringer. There was so much tea spilled. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.040 They talked about Boston Celtics getting Kyrie and having Kyrie leave. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.359 You had the e May Udoka stuff. I mean, it 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.560 was massive, It was sweeping. Logan Murdoch did a great job. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.159 They even talked about Kanye West and his relationship to 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:41.199 Donda Sports. I mean, it was full on. Brown was 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.359 completely unapologetic, direct as pretty much as much as you 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.879 might expect him to be. He's never really spoken like 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:54.600 this at length before. But the big takeaway is really 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.640 just how much the Celtics and Jason Tatum flirting with 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:03.840 Kevin Durant fuck with Jalen Brown's head. He's already someone 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.840 who said in this article, I do not trust people, 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.200 I do not trust organizations, I do not trust teams. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.280 And they they were shopping me, and then they said 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.360 they weren't shopping me, and we all got quote unquote 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.399 on the same page. But did we But did we? Though? Like, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.240 I don't know if I believe them. When asked about 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.880 his relationship with Jason Tatum, he was pretty blunt. It's 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.600 not gonna please Celtics fans because apparently being dangled as 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.720 trade bait for Kevin Rant would do that for you. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.320 He said, well, Katie and jt are friends, they were 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.880 working out together and whatnot, So I wasn't sure what 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.360 the energy was there. I wasn't sure what the direction 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.440 of the organization was. You add that to the fact 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.000 that Ema Udoka, the guy that he promoted to get 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.240 hired in the first place because they were on Team 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.680 USA together, and he gets fired, and they're like, boy, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.239 I don't know what's going on with this organization. So 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.119 he jumps on this three way call with Jason Tatum 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.440 and Brad Stevens like I said, They're like, hey, Jalen, 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.760 you're part of our future. No, and he was like, yeah, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:19.159 I'm pretty suspicious of this. And Tatum was interviewed for 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.840 the piece and he has this to say about Brown, well, 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.200 a lot of people fans are fascinated with our relationship 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.320 and how that's developing grown over time. He's got fans 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.080 within the Celtics fan base I've got fans within the 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.520 Celtics fan base, and I think our fans have more 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.800 of a hard time coexisting than me and him do. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.880 We've never had an argument. I don't think we've ever 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:43.359 had a real argument or a fight, nothing crazy like that. Yeah, 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.320 kind of weird. I think that people are either team 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.879 Tatum or team Brown. Kind of reminds me of a 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:54.760 relationship between a passive, aggressive couple who just keeps everything 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.640 inside until one day one of them wakes up this 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.200 morning and is like, you know what, you never take 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.520 out the fucking garbage, you know what? That really And 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.359 then you're just like, wait, what is this about the 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.879 garbage or is this about something else? It's healthy to 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.000 let things out a little bit more than they have, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.520 I think. And it turns out it's not just the 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.640 personal relationship with Jason Tatum that's damaged. It's his feelings 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:24.240 for the entire organization that might not surprise anyone based 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.280 on who the Celtics are known to be and who 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.720 Jaylen Brown is known to be. Don't need to say 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.959 more on that, but you know what I'm saying. The 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.359 Celtics operate on different principles. He said, they look at 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.760 it as a business where they tell you one thing 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.960 and then behind closed doors they say another and they'll 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.080 trade you off. They'll tell you we love you, and 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.120 they'll be having like, yeah, we're gonna trade him next week. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.760 Like where I'm from in the South, if you don't 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.920 come through the front door, it's considered disrespectful. I feel 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.720 a lot of times when you deal in these corporate spaces, 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.240 everybody wants to come through the back door or come 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:01.800 through at an angle. Yeah, Jalen Brown, I'm sorry to 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:07.680 say that. When you are dealing with trade negotiations, if 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.760 the trade falls through, they need to tell you they 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.919 love you. Like that's just how it goes. Otherwise, what 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:18.800 is this relationship left? Very tenuous situation, so much to unpack, 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.160 so much damage to undo. I think Jalen Brown might 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.159 be gucci on the Boston Celtics as a whole. I 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.159 think he's sort of ready to move on. It feels 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.639 like it doesn't sound like he wants to be a 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:37.560 Celtics anymore. He's a free agent after next season. If 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.919 you can read the energy, JB kind of feels like 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:45.760 he has already broken up with the Celtics unless something changes, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:51.400 Unless he gets a Supermax contract, he's probably gone. This 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.199 is what he said. I just enjoy the time that 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.920 you have now. If it's your whole career with Boston, 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.119 it's your whole career. If it's not, it's not. Some 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.320 of the greatest players of all time haven't finished with 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:07.280 their organization. Michael Jordan retired a wizard. As much as 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.359 we feel like it, we like it here and enjoy 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.080 being here. You see where life takes you, You see 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.000 where the process goes. All you do is really focus 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.000 on what's in front of you. To be honest, I'll 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:22.040 just say we'll get there when we get there. Oh boy. 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.639 He also said this to Logan, which I thought was 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.280 even more interesting. Brown was asked if he wants to 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.119 stay in Boston long term. Brown says, I don't know. 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.119 As long as I'm needed, it's not really up to me. 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.600 We'll see how they feel about me over time and 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.800 I feel about them over time. Hopefully whatever it is 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.640 makes sense. But I'll stay where I'm wanted. I will 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:51.480 stay where I'm needed, and this is the most important line, 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:57.320 and I will stay where I'm treated. Correct. Wooh boy. 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:03.719 I don't know, Hey girl, I'm not saying we're breaking up, 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.040 but you might want to get your own Netflix account. 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.920 Like I'm not saying we're breaking up, but you might 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.280 want to look at some new crock pots for yourself. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.760 I'm not saying we're breaking up, but you need to 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.400 decide whether you're getting the couch or the mattress cuz 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:24.639 we're breaking up. So I don't know. Boston and Jaylen 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.600 Brown are in a real predicament. If you know, he's 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.120 not happy and he doesn't want to sign an extension, 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.639 which by the way, he's not gonna sign an extension 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.800 because he's only eligible for one hundred and twenty five 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:41.280 percent raise. If he makes all NBA, he's he's eligible 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.920 for a much higher extension. But if he doesn't make 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.159 all NBA, that's all you can offer him, and you 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.880 have to wait until he hits free agency. And if 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:54.280 you hits free agency, anything can happen. Then you add 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.560