1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Yesterday it was wake up and celebrate you got Kevin Zeitler. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Then the rest of the day played out like, hey, 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: we lost him. Dang, he lost him, him too, and him. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: So you can take a couple of body blows there. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Then you come back and you hit him with a jab. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: If you were to just ask me, you can have 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: highest bouncer, you can go way. I think I'm taking 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: highest spouse. If wait, if you can have him at 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: the same price you're taking bows, I think I would so. So, 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: just to be clear, you think that the Ravens are 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: not signing a wide receiver in free agency, I I 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: don't think that it's out of the question that they 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: just will not sign a wide receiver. So, yeah, your answers, 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: they're not sign a wide receiver. I didn't say that, 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: So they are signing a wider sire. I didn't say that. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, Day two of unofficial free agency. UH, 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: and and the hot Stove report, the rumor mill, their 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: churn and baby UH. A lot going on, and you 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: know it was all yesterday it was wake up and celebrate, 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: we got Kevin Zeitler. Then the rest of the dagg 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: played out like dang, we lost him, Dang, we lost 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: him him too and him, So it was you know, 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: it started great and then then the shots started being 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: fired at us. Yeah, it is Free Agencies kind of 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: a roller coaster. Like you start, like you said, you 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: start with the Zeisler news and you're really excited. You're 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: fired up about that, great way to kick things off. 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: I guess I'm not really one of those fans who 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: I feel like the punches have kept coming. I just 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: felt like the moves that have happened were things that 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of seemed like it was trending in that direction. 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: So let's just recap it if you if you haven't 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: heard yet, this is where things stand, Matthew Judon, and 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: all of this is reportedly. No teams have announced any 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: of this yet because you can't announce anything yet until 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday at four pm when the new league year opens. 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: So everything that we're talking about, uh, with the exception 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: of Zeisler because he was released, but is under this 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: reported the umbrella. So the reports that june On is 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: going to the New England Patriots on a four year 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: deal for fifty six million. Then there's Janique and Gakwa 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: who's going to the Los Angeles the Las Vegas Raiders 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: on a two year, twenty six million dollar deal. Then 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: today we're recording this. On Tuesday, Jihad Ward is going 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville Jaguars. I don't have that. Has the 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: money come out on that one yet, I don't know 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: that I've seen that one. So those three guys gone. 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: The good news though, so you take a couple of 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: body blows there, then you come back and you hit 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: him with the jab. And the good news is that 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: the Ravens are reportedly signing Hius Bowser on a four 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: year deal for two million dollars. So this is the 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: another example of a value signing um which we can 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: dive into that in a little bit, but that's where 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: things stand right now. Well, and and the Ravens we 56 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: confirmed that brought back uh pronelomic Fee on a one 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: year deal. And also I think we're gonna be confirming 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: here later today Chris Board is also returning to the 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: Ravens on a one year deal. So another inside linebacker, 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: part of the rotation and special teams player. So, um, 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: you know a lot going on. Obviously, outside linebacker is 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: where we'll start this conversation because there was kind of 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: an exodus there for a little bit on the edge. Um. 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, I can't say that obviously, we're shocked to 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: see Matthew Judan and Yunikenakway both leave. I thought that 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens had a chance to retain jihad Ward just 67 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: because he would come a little cheaper and and he's 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: played well. Um. But you know, I'm not stunned by 69 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: any of this, in part because I think the Ravens 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: felt like those guys were gonna be out of their 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: price range. I mean you're talking Judon goes for four 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, which actually is a little bit 73 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: lower than I expected his number were to probably be um, 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: but still million dollars. There's nothing to sneeze at. Um. 75 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: And then you have Unique he was He got thirteen million, 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: just under both of those guys, to be honest, if 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: you would have asked. But we talked about at the 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: start of free agency, we were talking more in that 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen million dollar range. I mean, there were reports 80 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: that Judean was targeting the twenty million dollar range. Now 81 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: he he uh put some cold water on those reports, 82 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: uh in the colorful way, uh leading into free agency. 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: But I was surprised, uh that he got fourteen. I 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: just think I think both of those things. I attribute 85 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: that basically to the COVID cap. I just think that 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that's the reduction of the salary cap and the money 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: wasn't really there. But for Judeon especially to still get 88 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: a fifty six million dollar total deal four years, it's 89 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: kind of a no brainer when this is his opportunity 90 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: to cash in. So it doesn't really surprise me that 91 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: he took a long term deal, but it is a 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: little bit less than I think if he had, for example, 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: signed a long term deal next year. Yeah, I thought 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: it was interesting. Uh Judon apparently Texas Josina Anderson, and 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, she said why the Patriots, and he just said, 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots chose me? So the Patriots all for the 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: most money? What this is? What it sounds like? Um, 98 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be an interesting It's interesting to 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: think about Matthew Judon as a New England Patriot, you know, 100 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean you usually think the Patriots guys minus Rob 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Gronkowski as pretty buttoned up, pretty buttoned up, and I 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: would not describe Matthew Judan as a button up kind 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: of guy. Um, you know, he's a big personality of 104 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see how he fits there. 105 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: I think schematically it makes a lot of sense. You know. 106 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: The Patriots like to do with their linebackers a lot 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: like the Ravens. You know, they had dropping coverage, they 108 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: just have they're very versatile. Uh, Judan is very good 109 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: at that aspect of the game. So I think that 110 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: he'll be a good player for them. You know, somebody 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: tweeted at me and said, you know, this could be 112 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: a Dahlias Thomas two point oh for the Patriots. You know, 113 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: they signed him Dahlias to a huge contract from the 114 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Ravens and it didn't really work out. I don't know 115 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: that I buy into that. I mean, two different players, 116 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: different situations. Well a decade later, like ya, that's actually 117 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: a good We've got some emails here, so we want 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: to get into those and then we're gonna continue over 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: all this free agency conversation. This emails from Justin Hofsteader. 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: You can emails at the Lounge at Ravens on NFL 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: dot net, And that's basically his question. Uh, do you 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: see Jude on thriving into England? He did in Baltimore, 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: orally fizzle like a Dahlias Thomas did. He says, I 124 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: love the pie. I'm feeling connected to Baltimore all the 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: way out here in Kansas City, especially in the last 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: year where I couldn't come home and visit the four 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: win out like I planned. So appreciate you send it 128 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: an email, Justin and We're glad to make you feel 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: a little connected here to Baltimore. You know. I think 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: that there is something to be said when you look 131 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: at the Ravens track record. They have a long history 132 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: of guys who go and get contracts and they don't 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: really pan out. Now there's also the an Area Smith example, 134 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: where he got the big contract that I think everyone 135 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: looks at him and said, well, that's not gonna work out. 136 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: And then he's been an excellent player in Green Bay 137 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: and has been in the mix for defensive Player of 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: the Year conversations over the past couple of years. So 139 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: but he's he's really the exception to the rule. They're like, 140 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: most of these guys have gone out there and got 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: big contracts. I think part of it is that the 142 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Ravens have a great system. I think the Ravens have 143 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: great defensive coaches, they have a they draft well. All 144 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: that combined leads to guys just playing well within the system, 145 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: and then when they're out of that system, they may 146 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: not necessarily thrive. I think Jude On right, he's tough 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: to predict in my mind, Like, do you see him 148 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: being a tense at guy in New England? Do you 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: see him being an eight SAT guy? What? What is 150 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: your expectation for him? Probably not? Yeah, I mean it's 151 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: really interesting. I mean ju Done in his five years 152 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: in Baltimore hasn't hit double digit sacks. You know, he 153 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: came really close in nine with nine and a half, 154 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: but then you look at it and he had six 155 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: sacks last year, and sacks aren't everything. Let's just throw 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: that out there. I think this is something that that 157 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Matthew has kind of been battling his whole career. Is 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: like he always says, like, look at the critter back 159 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: pressures and stuff like that, but you know, his win 160 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: rate wasn't exceptionally high in one on one pass rush situations. 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: And you do at the end of the day you 162 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: look at six sacks and it's tied for forty one 163 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know, I mean Carlos dun Laugh 164 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: had the same amount last year, right, and he's sitting 165 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: out there in free agency and he ain't gonna be 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: paid like a top fifteen guy, you know. And so 167 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: when you're looking at some of the top sack guys 168 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: in the league, I mean, there are how many guys 169 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: in double digits one to three, four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, 170 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: ten guys with double digit sacks? And oh, by the way, one, two, three, 171 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: four or five of them were free agents this year, 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: Trey Henderson, Henderson Hendrickson, Hassan Reddick, uh Leonard Williams, Leonard Floyd, 173 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: and Romeo Akwara. Uh. So, you know, the competition was 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: stiff for Matthew Judon on the free agency market. And 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: how much are you gonna get really paid when you 176 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: don't have huge numbers? Now, I think Judon is a 177 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: great player. He you know, has a good all around 178 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: game in which, like we said, he can drop in 179 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the coverage and do all those things. He can set 180 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: the edge, you know. But I wouldn't say that Judon 181 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: is a guy that like popped in any one way, 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, like was he where 183 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: was where was he dominant in one aspect of the game. 184 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I would point to one, you know. 185 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, now, Yannique is kind of the flip side 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: right where Unique was like a big sack guy, big 187 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: sack guy, but what much else did he really bring? 188 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: You know? But he wasn't good dropping coverage particularly um 189 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say he was a great edge 190 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: setter as a run defender. And so I think part 191 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: of the reason he doesn't doesn't get a huge paid 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: a is because people are wondering, all right, is this 193 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: guy a little bit of a one trick pony? You know? 194 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: How much can hit that pass? Rush move the outside 195 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: kind of chop move, keep working? Uh and and so 196 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: I think there are some questions a little bit about 197 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: both guys, and that's why it didn't lead to a 198 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: huge number for either one of them. Yeah, I think 199 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: it's all good points. And here's something that like. I 200 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: like what the Ravens have done, which is reportedly bring 201 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: back Bowser. And I know we've been talking about on 202 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: the podcast what Bowser gets. You know, I said he's 203 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: gonna get a nice deal. According to reports is four years, 204 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: twenty two million, not breaking the bank, but it's a 205 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: nice deal. So am I am I vindicated on my 206 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: prediction there, I would say, yes, you are. Yeah, So 207 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean the average of five and a half right, 208 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: again not twenty, but he gets a nice second contract 209 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: and it's at a value for the Ravens. And I 210 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: do think that he could have been a guy who 211 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: in a normal year, maybe he gets closer to eight 212 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: or something like that without the COVID cap. But anyway, um, 213 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: I like, if you were to just ask me, you 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: can have Tiest Bowser, unique and got Way. I think 215 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm taking Tiest Bowser just between the two of them, 216 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: take money off the table when you add money into 217 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: the equation. I think that I'm taking Bowser overall in 218 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: terms of what he does for this races. If what 219 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: you're saying, take take if you can have him at 220 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: the same price you're taking Bowser, I think I would. Yeah, Yeah, 221 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: I think I would. I just look, I think the 222 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: Bowser that I'm gonna go. That's fine. I mean, that's fine. 223 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I think that uh, Gotway obviously can get to the 224 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: quarterback more more effectively. You know, he had eight sacks 225 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: last year between two teams. But when you look at 226 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: overall roll on a defense, how many stats. Did unique 227 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: play in the playoff game fourteen something like or something 228 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: like that. I mean it was it was a small 229 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: number um, and I know that like for him, he 230 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: was sent to two different teams and had to make 231 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: that transition all that different stuff, which was a challenge. 232 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: But when I I just look at Bowser and he 233 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: can he can set the edge, you can drop and coverage. 234 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: He had three picks last year, only two and a 235 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: half sacks, so he's not a high sack production guy. 236 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: But in this Ravens defense, I like what he brings 237 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: to the table um and I think that he's a 238 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: great fit. And then when you add the money to 239 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: the equation, I think that it's even an easier decision. Yeah. Well, 240 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens needed to retain him, especially after 241 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Judon left, because Judon dropped in coverage a fair amount 242 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. It was kind of that sam linebacker, 243 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: uh that they need in this seat in this scheme, 244 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: and so keeping Tious to kind of play that role 245 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I think was really important in this defense. So I 246 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: like it, but I don't think that they're obviously done 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: it outside linebacker or I mean, now you have Parnell McPhee, 248 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Tias Bowser, and Jalen Ferguson. You need more, you need 249 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: more there, and I've I'm on the record of saying, 250 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: right now, I'm looking at first round pass rusher outside linebacker. 251 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: That would be my pick in the first round. I'm 252 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: calling it now, Garrett, don't try to steal my pick 253 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: like you do every other year. I'm calling the Georgia, 254 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: the Georgia pass rusher. I don't know how to say 255 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: his name. You don't even know his name. You don't 256 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: even know his name, his name. I'm calling a guy. 257 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know who it is. His classic. You're 258 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: calling this guy. I don't even know who I know 259 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: who it is, I don't I don't know how to 260 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: say his name, and I don't want to say it wrong. 261 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: Is that how you say it? Zise ADULARI? Is that 262 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: how you say it? If you mispronounce it, then that's 263 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: you don't get to to claim him. I don't even 264 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: know the guy's name. 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We're gonna do 279 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: way more uh draft talk, but on the not like 280 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: not this podcast, but over the course the next few weeks. 281 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: The thing with Pass Rusher that I like, let's just 282 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: say the Ravens don't add another one, and they're reportedly 283 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: in the mix for Hassan Reddick or for Carlos Donnap 284 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: or Jadeveon Clowney, So maybe they get one of those guys. 285 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: But if they don't, then who's to say they couldn't 286 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: go Pass rusher pass rusher with the first two picks. 287 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: Everyone that you hear from says that this is a deep, 288 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: talented pass rusher class. Mel Kuiper talked about that and 289 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: talked about how great this pass rusher classes. So if 290 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: you could go get say two really good pass rushers, 291 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: and if you've already kind of solidified the offensive line 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: with Zeitler, you've brought back bowser Um, the receiver thing 293 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: is still very much hanging out there, and I don't 294 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: know how that's gonna go and who that's gonna be. 295 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: That's if you read Twitter mentions, uh in Instagram comments, 296 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: that's where most of the concern is for Ravens fans. 297 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: So I do want to dive into that a little bit, 298 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised that the Ravens took 299 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: a couple of early pass rushers. Maybe it's not first 300 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: two picks, but maybe it's first and third. And you 301 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: just say, we're gonna have a young, aggressive group of 302 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: pass rushers and Wink Martindale is gonna blitz a lot, 303 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: and that's how you're gonna get sack production. And then 304 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: you like your ability for your other linebackers, like you know, 305 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Queen to be able to blitz a little bit. I 306 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: can see that being the answer. And you hope to 307 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit more from a pass rush standpoint 308 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: from Clay's campbell this year, Um, those could that could 309 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: be the answer. And you hope for Tias and for Tias, yeah, yeah, 310 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: you hoped. You hope Ties can take a step forward 311 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: in that with a with a bigger kind of full 312 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: time role. You know. I mean, the guy had what 313 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: five and a half sacks the previous year, so it's 314 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: not like he can't do it. He can get after 315 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the pass rusher, it's just he didn't do it a 316 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: lot last season. Um, so you have five sacks in nineteen, 317 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Tias can be a guy who 318 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: gets you know, six plus sacks next year for sure. 319 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: And I think that, like you're saying, it's not unheard 320 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: of for a rookie to come in and step in 321 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: in the first year a little bit more of a 322 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: limited role as they're kind of learning the Ravens system 323 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: and adjusting to the NFL. And you say, all right, 324 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: you know what, as a rookie, while you're learning all 325 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: this other stuff, on game days, you know what you're 326 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna do you're gonna hunt as prenomic feel like to 327 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: say you're gonna be a dope, let off a chain, 328 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: and and like it's not unheard of for one of 329 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: those guys for a rookie pass, I should to step 330 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: in Baltimore and get six sacks, you know, So I 331 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: think that they can they can find that in the draft, right, 332 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, could you get especially if it's a first 333 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: or a second first and the third round pick, could 334 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: you get someone who gives you what Judon gave you 335 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: as a rookie, which is four sacks? Like I definitely 336 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: think so. Well, now you probably want in a perfect world, 337 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: now you don't want a fith round pick. So if 338 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: you're taking a guy in the first round, could he 339 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: get you instead of four, he gets you six? And 340 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: then tis goes up from two and a half to 341 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: five and a half or two six and you get, 342 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: you know, a couple more out of Klais all those 343 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: things combined, I think you could end up being just 344 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: fine in the pastor's department, even if you don't sign 345 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: another guy. And that brings us to this question from 346 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Scott Phillips, who asked, who says Garrett and Ryan Ryan 347 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: I personally care what you think, but I definitely care 348 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: what Garrett thinks, which I appreciate that. Scott, thank you 349 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: for much with our new signing of Kevin Zeitler. Um 350 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Eric and Eric to Costa's cryptic Warren Buffett quote about 351 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: high performing businesses at a fair price. Do you think 352 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: it's more likely we use our remaining cap space to 353 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: extend current players or do you anticipate any more free 354 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: agency moves? If so, which positions will we address? Uh? 355 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: And could we end up restructuring contracts like Calais or 356 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: Big Baby Brandon Williams. Um So, Now this email from 357 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: Scott did come into us before the highest bowser uh 358 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: new contract. Um And just to remind, you can emails 359 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: of the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net with 360 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: any questions that you have. Um So, I feel like 361 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens are still going to do something in free 362 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: agency before before contract extension. The contract extensions would be 363 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: for Mark Andrews, would be for Lamar Jackson. Obviously I 364 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: think that, I mean, Derek Wolf is still sitting out there, 365 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: but I feel like they're gonna go get somebody else. 366 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: What's the deal? Wide receiver are they going to get 367 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: a receiver. Does that happen? That's that's the weird one. 368 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the wide receiver market right now has really 369 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: been slow to develop, oddly because usually the wide receivers 370 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, kind of fly off the board and 371 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: they get big money. And this year it's been really 372 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: slow to materialize. I don't know if people are waiting 373 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: for the Kenny Golladay signing to kind of set the 374 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: market there a little bit. I mean, the only reported 375 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: deal so far have been Nelson Aguilar and Corey Davis. 376 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Corey Davis to the Jets and Aguilar to the Raider 377 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: or to the Patriots, because everybody's going to the Patriots, 378 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick spending money. What like you going into a 379 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: taco bell late at night, you just so you're just 380 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: a millionaire when you go in there. He he. The 381 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: deals that they've made have been crazy. I mean, I 382 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: thought they would be kind of done after they got 383 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: John you Smith, and then they go get Hunter Henry too. 384 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: Like at tight end, I'm like, how many guys can 385 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: they ob other guys? But just at that one position, 386 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, they already got the top tight end on 387 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: the market, and now they get the other top tight 388 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: end on the market. Wild I'll tell you what. The 389 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: bills are sweating. The bills are sweating right now. Yeah, yeah, 390 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: So so what is the option? What are the options 391 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: or how do you see the free agent receiver thing 392 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: play out? Well right now? You know, I think it 393 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: depends on what kind of view do you viewpoint do 394 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: you have on Emmanuel Sanders? You know, I mean, because 395 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: I still think, like I wrote about in What maink 396 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: Thinks the Inaugural Um, I still think that the Ravens 397 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: are really trying to position themselves to get as many 398 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: compics as they can, and they always do that, but 399 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I think this year is a special year. It's a 400 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: special opportunity for them to get a bunch of picks, 401 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: and they really don't want to jeopardize that, especially with 402 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: the need to build a young, talented roster around Lamar 403 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Jackson moving forward. So um, so I think that if 404 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: you could get if they like Emmanuel Sanders and he 405 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: comes into a good price and him being released, you know, 406 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: then that makes some sense. But there's not a ton 407 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: of guys on the market that were cut at wide 408 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: receiver at least as of now, you know, I mean, 409 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: the other guy would be Golden Tate, Like, you know, 410 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: how much does Golden Tate really excites you? I wouldn't 411 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: say that it really gets my blood going, you know. Um, 412 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: And so most of these guys, you know we've talked about. 413 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: I mean John Brown, he was also released, but I 414 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: think he's too much in the mold of a Hollywood 415 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: Brown to for me. Like, that's not the ride receiver 416 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: that I think that the Ravens really could benefit by adding. 417 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: And then you have a bunch of unrestricted guys, Sammy Watkins, 418 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Juju Smith, Schuster, Chris Curtis, Samuel you know, gollan A 419 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: being the big one, t Y Hilton, you know, a J. Green, 420 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, I mean all those guys are unrestricted if 421 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: you get him at a low enough price where they 422 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't cancel out one of your third round comp pics. Like, okay, 423 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: you know, does a J. Green Let's say, you know, 424 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: gett negated by Jihad Ward, right, like those two crossed 425 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: each other out, and you'd lose a fifth round comp pick. Okay, 426 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm okay with losing a fifth round compensatory pick. I'm 427 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: not okay with signing a wide receiver that forces me 428 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: to lose the third round compensatory pick that I would 429 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: have gotten for losing Jude on your and you're unique. 430 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: So so even if everything, I think those are all 431 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: part of the calculations. Well, I don't think that they 432 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: have enough money to get Kenny all right this right, 433 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: I think that ship is sailed. Yeah, I know, I 434 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: know I'm breaking your heart, Garrett. I know I'm breaking 435 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: your heart, buddy, But I don't think that that's one 436 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: is happening. I know it's weird that yet, but I 437 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: don't think that he's gonna sit out that long. I 438 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: don't think that one's gonna happen either. Like, if I'm 439 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: making the prediction, and I know a lot of fans 440 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: are asking about that one, that's probably the name that's 441 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: in our Twitter match is more than anything else. Um 442 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: And I don't expect the Kenny Golladay move to happen 443 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: because he's going to get a huge deal. I mean, 444 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna get fifteen sixteen seventeen million a year, and 445 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: that's money that the Ravens unless they're to do some 446 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: major restructuring on a number of contracts that they don't have. Um. 447 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: So I don't see that happening. Um. I think the 448 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: other possibility too, is is like doesn't do they wait, 449 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Like just use a J. Green as an example. Does 450 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: a J. Green definitely sign a contract in the next 451 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: week or does he kind of waited out as a 452 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: veteran player like and say, I'll kind of wait this 453 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: thing out and see what happens in the draft and 454 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: see where I feel like I could be a good 455 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: fit and then and then that could be a win 456 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: win because if you get somebody in that mold, then 457 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: you can keep your compic that you're want, that you 458 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: want to hold onto, and so that could be an option. 459 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: I also still think that there could be other players 460 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: released between now and the start of the season. Who 461 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: are those players? I don't know, but after the draft 462 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: that that is definitely a possibility. And then the other 463 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: one is you know that I think that with the 464 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: draft and the Orlando Brown tray, that's a I don't 465 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: know that I would see a player be involved in that, 466 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: but I just feel like that could be that that's 467 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: just another thing that could be in the mix. I 468 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: think when you start talking about Orlando Brown junior trade, 469 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: maybe that there could be a receiver in the mix. 470 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: If the Ravens were to make a deal for him, 471 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: I'd say unlikely, but but not out of the question. Mhm. Yeah, 472 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: You're like Baltimore beat down. You're gonna get the beat 473 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: down from Tody Khan with all your speculation, you know, 474 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, Orlando Brown ju the speculation, the rumors they 475 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: were hearing, or later Brown Jr. Was getting traded to 476 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the Jags for uh jj you know, yeah and then 477 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: uh then the Jag zone or just put the e 478 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: bosh on that one top rop. Yeah, that was funny. 479 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: That was the mid day free agency entertainment, no question 480 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: about it. All Right, we're gonna take one more break 481 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: and we'll give you some more thoughts on free agency 482 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: before we wrap things up today. 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Um and 501 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: and you know, I think that here's the guy who's 502 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: coming off. He didn't have big sack production for the 503 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: Ravens last year, but he was a good, really good 504 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: run defender, a very solid player, very good players. Stepped 505 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: up big time when the Ravens were without Kaas Campbell 506 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: and Brandon Williams and just kind of put it on 507 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: his back there for a stretch. And I and the 508 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Ravens have been clear that they really like Derek and 509 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: would like to retain him obviously at the at the 510 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: right number. You know, they're not gonna give him a 511 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. But you know, I think 512 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: it would not surprise me if the two sides came 513 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: together to find a deal. Yeah, I could see that 514 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: one for sure, and I think that would that would 515 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: be a big piece to keep on this defense. Derek 516 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: was really good last year, like he I just was 517 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: really impressed with him, and the Ravens definitely liked him 518 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: so to me that there it was funny kind of 519 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: seeing some of their action to that tweet. Some people 520 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: can take it as well. He's he's unhappy with the 521 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: deal that the Ravens are getting the Ravens would be offering. Sure, 522 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: that could be the case. I also think that it 523 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: could be what you're saying, which is uh, when he 524 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: gets out there on the open market and the deals 525 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: from other teams aren't what he wants. So I think 526 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: that it kind of depends on both, right, it could 527 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: be both. It could be both. I mean sure, if 528 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: there was a deal that he loved, he would have 529 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: signed it, whether it's the Ravens or another team. So 530 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: he's clearly not thrilled with the money that has come 531 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: his way. It could be another one year deal that 532 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: could be the option for him. I don't know how 533 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: long he wants to keep doing one year deals, but 534 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: maybe that's what's on the table, another short term deal 535 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: for him. So if they could bring him back, I 536 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: think that'd be good. I still, you know, I'm not 537 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm not ruling out the receiver addition. I understand I 538 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: agree with you on protecting comp pics, and I think 539 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: that that is there's a lot of value in that, 540 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: and the Ravens clearly value competitory picks. But I just 541 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out to the same degree that you. 542 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: It seems like that you are um and I don't 543 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: know who that signing is. Who is it? Sammy Watkins? 544 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins? You know he was somebody? Dude, I am. 545 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: I'm out. I am out on Sammy Watkins. You know what. 546 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm going on record, And if we signed Sammy Watkins, 547 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go have to go back and scrub this. Okay, 548 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna get it the owner if we end up 549 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: signing him. But I'm going on record, when is Sammy 550 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: Watkins had a good year since his like rookie year. 551 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, honestly, like what this guy hasn't 552 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: put up stats in in seven years. The last time 553 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: the last time he had he had more The last 554 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: time he had more than six hundred yards was dude, 555 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, no, I'm sorry. He had six 556 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: seventy three, six seventy three in Kansas City in nineteen Okay, 557 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: So since it's been four thirty five, ninety three, five, 558 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: nineteen six, three and four the dudes on one of 559 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: the most prolific offenses in the NFL, and he put 560 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: up four and twenty one receiving yards last year. Well, 561 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: you know when you're plus he's injured all the time. Well, 562 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: when you're paying medium mid round price for a receiver, 563 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: you're not getting Kenny Golladay. You're not getting a thousand years. 564 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna cost ten million dollars. Why why what makes 565 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: you say he's gonna cost I mean, every team can 566 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: look at the same status you're looking at. Why what 567 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: makes you confident that he's going to get the ten 568 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: million dollar range? Because we already read the spot track 569 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: market values in spot exactly talking about Garrett, that's probably 570 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: what That's probably what Derrick Wolfs read too, And he's 571 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: reading the spot Track value and all these numbers are 572 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: twenty million a year, eighteen million years, sixty million a year. 573 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Then no one's getting it. It's like it's like when 574 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: you pull up a baseball card, a baseball car from 575 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: your basement and you're like, this card. The Internet says 576 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: it's worth ten dollars, it's pristine condition. This is a 577 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: once in a lifetime opportunity right here, I'm putting up 578 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: on eBay and you get six dollars for it, Like no, no, no, 579 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, this is worth ten dollars. It's worth 580 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: what someone's gonna pay for it. So maybe someone pays 581 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: in that all I just throw out him as a name. 582 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Rappingport mentioned him as a name. And if the Ravens 583 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: are gonna get a if they aren't gonna spend for Holaday, 584 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: do you just miss Schuster, will Fuller Um, some player 585 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: in that range, then then it's a it's a player 586 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: in that next category. Sammy Watkins, John Brown, those are 587 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: the players in that mix or do you say Sammy Watkins? 588 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: Rap Ian Rappingport named Sammy Watkins on this this very 589 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: podcast because he was pulling names out of his butt 590 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: because we put him on the spot. That's what happened. 591 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: He's just named it. He's naming guys that are in 592 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: that category. Though he wasn't saying that they the Ravens 593 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: have pursued him, but he's saying that he's those are 594 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: the guys in that category. So you think so. So, 595 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: just to be clear, you think that the Ravens are 596 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: not signing a wide receiver in free agency. I I 597 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: don't think that it's out of the question that they 598 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: just will not sign a wide receiver. I think they 599 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: might just sit out the wide receiver market. Okay, that's 600 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: that's at least we nailed you down. Didn't say that's 601 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: what I've got to do. I've got to nail you do. 602 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: The Ravens are not signing a wide receiver. I did 603 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: not say that. I did not say so they're not 604 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: signing Sammy Watkins. I'm saying they're not signing Sammy Watkins, 605 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. My point is I expect them 606 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: to make a move at receiver. I don't know who 607 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: it is. That was just a name that I'm throwing 608 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: out there, but I feel like they will add someone 609 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: at receiver in free agency. And that's where I stand. 610 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: And you are on the camp that they are not 611 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: signing any receiver and they're not draft to any of them. 612 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: Like year, you know you were, you were kind of no, no, no, no, 613 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: you were kind of selling me on the idea of 614 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: of signing one after the draft. You saw me on that. 615 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I'll give it to you because I think I I 616 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: also think you know, I got first round pass rusher, 617 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: my guy A Z's ojular. That's right, I got it. 618 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: Uh so I got him, but I got wide receiver. 619 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: You know, if they get an extra first round pick 620 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: from trading Orlando Brown or we're talking second round, I 621 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: got wide receiver in one of those. I think they 622 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: want to keep putting young wide receivers around around Lamar 623 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Jackson to let him grow with these wide receivers. So 624 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I just I just don't see a great fit. Interesting. Well, 625 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: you know what you need. You need a water You 626 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: need to take the Crown water break. Yeah, yeah, you 627 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: need the Crown Royal water. After that that rant, I 628 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: need a water break. Yeah. The Crown Royal wants to 629 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: remind you to stay hydrated, to stay royal Crown a 630 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Royal Canadian whiskey. Make sure you take that water break. Uh. 631 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna sign off here because you need a tall 632 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: glass water. That's what you need right now. So we're 633 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna jump off here. But there's a lot of things 634 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: that are happening during free agency. We're doing more podcasts 635 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: this week as news breaks. We're going to continue to 636 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: bring you the news, uh in our analysis and break 637 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: it all down. Uh. So there could be another podcast 638 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: or two who knows this week once. Yeah, that's breaking 639 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: news to me that we're doing more podcasts this week, 640 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: but there it is breaking news right now. Well, if 641 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: in trouble, if we I'm in trouble, I can't wait 642 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: to play this interview for Sammy when we have them 643 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: on the podcast for the first time. Oh but you 644 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: guys can continue to emails of the lounge at Ravens 645 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. It's an exciting time of the 646 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: year and uh we look forward to hearing from you. 647 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: So that's it for us. We'll talk with you again 648 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: whenever the big news happens.