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We ran into you 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.320 at the bus little bus where you had to catch 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.080 a bus in Hollywood, yep, yep, And you were by yourself, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.240 Del and you had just moved out to LA a 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.520 day or two before, like I think we you were 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.080 you had come on the show before that, but it 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.680 was like you were like just like enjoying the LA ship, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.560 like you know what I'm saying. We ran new it 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.119 was the kids see Ghosts kits ghost and we took 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.480 a bus there and like, yeah, it was it was 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.760 pretty crazy. That was a crazy last night. Yeah, it 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.000 was a vibe and I think I tweeted you were 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.360 signing the waiver and it said good music on it. Yeah, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.079 I took a picture of you, said oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.520 signed a good music. That was a real thing. That 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.359 was a real thing. That was a real thing. People 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.239 thought I was signed a good music. Yeah. So what's 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.680 up man? How's first of all, congrats because the album 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.280 is incredible. Thank you, bro. That mean the world to me. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.760 Appreciate that. That's it, you know, as dope as the 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.040 first project was, I feel like you leveled up with 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.480 this one. I feel like it was more cohesive. It 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.840 feels just more personal, like, thank you, bro, thank you. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.880 That means the world. Appreciate that for real. It took 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.000 your time, Yeah, I did, you know. I feel like 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.400 you could have followed up, you know, within a year 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.639 with the way the last album went. But yeah, I 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.680 feel like you really took your time with this project. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.120 Obviously you gave us, I ad Epe gave us some taste, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.600 but like what was for you, Like was that on 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.840 purpose to like really not rush the sophomore album? Yeah? Now, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.480 it was a string of things. One, you know, this 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.880 pandemic right, I'm really a touring artist, like I make 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:18.840 music to perform it. And two is like I always 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.200 wanted to sort of set myself up to where I 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.320 have an expectation of taking my time with albums. Not 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.520 an expectation, but it's just patient myself career wise, career wise. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.560 Excuse me. I know I could always deliver high quality 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.040 album every two years. You know, if I would have 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.880 dropped the album in twenty twenty, like back to back, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.280 right after Lost Boy, it wouldn't have been good, you know, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.120 in my opinion, it wouldn't have been at the level 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.520 to where I needed it to be. And so I 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.080 just really I had to live a bunch of life honestly, 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.880 to talk about some new things, you know, and go 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.320 through some shit in order to express that into music. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.280 And yeah, it wasn't a purpose. It's funny though, the 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.960 day that Lost Boy came out, I remember I was like, yeah, 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.640 it's probably gonna be like another two years before I 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.400 drop another album. I'm like, nigga, what And I'm like, all, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.200 you're gonna see but and but it's not like I'm 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.400 just sitting there for six months and then I'm like, Okay, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:12.840 I got a year and a half left. Let's get 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.920 it done, like I'm working every all time, Yeah, the 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.560 whole time. But I just didn't want to rush shit 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.440 and just put some shit out just to put some 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.760 shit out, just to feed the algorithm. You know, I 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.839 just want it cause I know I would look back, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.240 like twenty years from now, ten, fifteen years from now, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.680 however long it may be, and be like, I'm so 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.640 glad that I took my time with this album, Versus 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.320 I'll regret it more if I just rushed and put 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.960 out an album Versus now I took this time out, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.600 all this time and creating and cultivating this album and 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.040 putting all the energy, all my effort into it versus 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.320 just throwing some shit out, rushing it out just to 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.280 put it out. Plus, if we think of like the 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.920 all time greats, right we're thinking like Kendrick, we think 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.560 of a lot of these guys nahs, like, you know, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.400 they took their time from it. I mean, these guys 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.680 take their time, Like, for sure, Hole's not dropping every 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.240 twelve months, you know what I'm saying. For sure, Yeah, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:08.080 it's a couple. Everybody got their own path. J for 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.839 a while, he covers every year every summer. Jay Z. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.040 When I was a kid. But you know, yeah, jay 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.640 Z's the greatest of all time. For Shure, everybody got 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.320 their own path. And it's not like I'm looking at 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.279 like a Kendrick blueprint or like, Okay, Kendrick dropped three 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.080 years in between his first and second now or two 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.120 years between. It's freaking seven out. So I got it. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.680 It's just what naturally how I progress. Like I recorded 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.200 hundreds and hundreds of songs, but I knew what I 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.400 wanted to say, what point I wanted to get across, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.920 And I just wanted to make a complete, cohesive body 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.400 of work. And I knew I just wanted to take 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.599 my time, not with like actually creating, but with just 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.160 finishing everything up. No, I feel like over the last 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.839 couple of years, we've seen you in the studio with 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.840 so many people, yeah, where it's like, oh shit, oh shit, 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.680 he's in with oh man, Like how much music did not? 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.960 Like you said you recorded hundreds of songs, Like, yeah, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.760 how tough was it? Because twelve Like obviously there are 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.320 songs that are already out. Yeah, like when you put 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.239 when you when the album came out, you said, press 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.919 play from one to twelve consecutively. Yeah, that's how I 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.800 want you to listen to the album for sure. How 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.080 hard was it to keep it so tight, because you know, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.039 it could have been twenty songs it could have been 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.040 you know, for sure, not as hard as you think, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.960 because every song that's on the album, as soon as 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.240 I recorded it, I knew it made me feel a 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.040 certain way. I was like, yeah, I really like this one. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.440 It was two songs that I left off the album 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.440 that I really three songs that I really really enjoyed. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.960 I don't know if I'm going to deluxe some or 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.720 just wait and saving for a whole new like body 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.279 of work or a whole new idea, just put it 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.960 out there, whatever, but it was three songs that I 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.920 left out that I really like loved. But at one 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.520 point in time, every single song that's on the album 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.640 was like my favorite song that I made at the time, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.520 if that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, And it 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.200 just they just happened to fit together. It's do that 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.760 you have to be put Freddy on the album because 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.680 you guys also did the record with NAS for Spotify? 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.400 What's that for Spotify? Life is like it was for Spotify? 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.760 Life is like a dice game, right, I'm super you 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.480 know what's crazy. I was really hoping you and Benny 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.080 would have worked together put you guys on the text 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.880 like yeah, but yeah yeah rock with Bro have to 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.800 get you and Freddie you know, to have him on 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.920 the record. How how was that, Like, how did you 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.200 guys relationship kind of grow from maybe that life is 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.960 like a dice game to you know, him hopping on 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.480 that joint. Uh. To be honest, like, I don't like 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.560 to say things are more than what they are, you 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.520 know what I'm saying. Freddy just it's always just been 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.000 a mutual respect as fellow artists and peers, and whenever 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.560 we see each other, it's just love and respect, you know. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.240 And he seems like from you know, my interactions with him, 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.360 which haven't been like too many, but he seemed like 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.239 a stand up guy, you know what I'm saying. And 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.440 even more than that, I just knew his vocal tone 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.120 on Champagne Glasses would have sounded like really good, and 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.120 it did. For sure. He did. He delivered. He definitely 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:01.640 delivered on the album you talk of about you got 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:06.160 your Pops pressure Washer Van Yeah, yeah, which which is dope, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.040 by the way, So explain that. So your your dad, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.160 you set him up with a business. You hooked him 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.440 up with a little small business like tool. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.200 he already had his business like going, and he didn't 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.120 and you know, he didn't like call me and asked 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.480 me anything. It's just something I wanted to sow a 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.760 seed into his business, you know. And but it's just 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.400 small things like that, that's just that makes me. That 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.800 makes what I do worthwhile to me to where I'm 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.920 able to just like, Okay, let me just sow a 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.320 seed in this business right here, invest more so like 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:41.080 invest into it, you know. And it's a dope thing. Yeah, 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.960 I mean, like I feel like family's obviously very important 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.719 to you. It's been a big theme of both your projects. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.800 On Mama's Hood, you talk about your boy who you lost. Yeah, 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.160 for sure. I was just on the phone with his 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.760 mom too, literally yesterday, Juwan Ross, I was on the 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.120 phone with his mom and my bad. I was just 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.839 thinking out loud, you know, but I was just saying 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.480 like that that was like a kind of a crazy verse. Yeah. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.920 I feel like there's so many people who probably have 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.120 been in that position where they got a friend who like, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.000 you know, they like you know, did you like it 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.120 felt like you had some sort of guilt, Like, yeah, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.400 for sure, survival's guilt. Yeah, I think that's a real thing, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:20.760 and I think a lot of people go through that. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.600 So to hear you talk about it and I don't 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.680 I don't think like people might have expected that from you, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.320 because I think we look at you it's kind of like, 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.560 you know, like a not a street rapper. Yeah for sure. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.440 Like to know that one of your best friends got 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.280 into a shootout and passed away, and like, yeah, that 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:36.880 made you feel it was like, you know, a pretty 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.400 vulnerable moment on the album. Was that something that like 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.920 happened and you knew right away, I gotta I gotta 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.400 make sure I share this with the world. It's it 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.559 was a kind of like therapy. Noah, it wasn't. More 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.920 so I got to share it with the world. It 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.520 just happened. I wrote that song the week, you know, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.760 I found out he got killed, and U, this is 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.160 somebody I'm with every day in high school. We played 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.600 basketball together. Even when I go to college. You used 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.080 to always come up and visit me, and you know, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.560 and all of these things. So when he got killed, man, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.680 I just felt like guilty, Like, man, I could have 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.880 saved him, like I single handedly. I felt like, man, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.480 I might as well have pulled the trigger because I 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.000 could have just saved him, you know. And when that 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.080 beat came on, it just gave me like those vibes. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:22.240 And I say that to say that it's unfortunate that 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.120 it takes, you know, like I said, a lot of 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.560 my music, it's a real life experience just transmuted into 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.600 emotions and musical form, and unfortunately, sometimes it's something as 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.760 tragic as that sparks a song, you know, and yeah, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.840 it's a crazy thing, man, It's an unfortunate part of life. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.400 Like I lost a lot of people that I grew 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.240 up with. Rest in peace, a little Tony, Rest in peace, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.240 Fly Brandon and one of my friends got killed in 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.520 middle school. Brandon Tony got killed right after we graduated, Juan. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.280 And it's just so many people I grew up with, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.520 you know, that I'm with day to day. We live 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.360 in the same neighborhood, this and that, and I'm like, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.040 be a day later, I'm like, Damn, were just walking 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.720 home from school together. They get killed, you know, And 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.720 so it just really been bugging me because it's something 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.600 that I've gotten used to, you know, people that I'm 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.160 with every day and going to school with getting either 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.240 killed prematurely before they're eighteen years old in some cases, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.559 or getting locked up for a super long time. And 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.000 it's something I've like grown accustomed to, it used to 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.080 to where like I may not even shed a tear, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.679 you know, And it's not because I'm not empathetic or 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.920 I love him, I'll miss him, but because I'm just 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.520 so used to the shit, and I'm thinking it's normalized 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.640 to me. So I'm thinking it's normal. When I'm talking 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.840 to other people about they like, nah, you get desensitized. Yeah, exactly. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.360 I mean keeping it with your homies, like talk about 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.000 how the intro and your boy Shiloh being part of 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.120 the album, how that like like kind of give people 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.560 the background on who Shiloh is, and yeah, you know 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.240 he's got the interlude and the Yeah, yeah, so shatout. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:58.080 That's my brother. Like we we from and we're not blood, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.200 but we always was with each other since day one. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:01.920 So we always used to tell everybody who was brothers. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.920 We was both like light skin or whatever, So this 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.760 is like my brother and he was rapping as well, 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.079 like before I was not before I was but at 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:12.960 the same time, but he was popping before I was, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.000 and me seeing him like that close, but he was 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.280 still like super heavy in the street shit, you know. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:23.200 And so me seeing him like glowing up in his 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.320 way just on some straight street. Buzz On didn't have 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.000 no manager, didn't I was his manager at one point 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.080 in time. Yeah, Yeah, I was managing him because I 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.080 just knew, like, Okay, I know how to upload shit 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.960 to like a tune corde, I know how to monetize it, 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:42.360 just the regular basic shit, small shit. And so me 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.199 seeing him go up that kind of a lot of times, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.680 it just takes you seeing things, especially up close, to 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.439 understand that you can attain the same sort of things 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.360 even to a higher level. And us growing up together 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.800 and him getting locked up for twenty five twenty four years, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.600 to be exact, for a murder, that's something that that 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.960 messed up with me psychologically because I end up blowing 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.360 up or getting on the scene or so the year 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.520 after he gets locked up. So I'm like, damn, if 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.719 I was able to, if I was at where I'm 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.000 at now, he might be in a whole different situation, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.400 you know. But that's why I thought it was very 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.000 important to highlight where he's at, you know, on the 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.440 intro and in the loud as well, that's dope. I 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:24.680 was just on the phone with a matter of fact 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.800 when I came in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's dope. 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.160 So when he like, yeah, I mean, how long is 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.000 he gonna be? Is he got a while? Or yeah 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.520 he got twenty four years? Shit? But we're working right now, 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.840 working with a bunch of he got a team of lawyers, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.680 and I'm working with Robert Rooks from Reform and a 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.920 couple other guys to really put all the resources that 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.720 we have now and able to in order to get 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.040 him out, as well as my dog Mac, his cole defender, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.280 who got thirty years, another one of my dogs. So 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.880 this is just just trying to utilize this access to 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.400 relationships I have to be able to help, especially so 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:04.400 close to hime. Do you with with what you know? 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.960 I feel like a lot of people during the pandemic, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.040 during kind of what happened like in June of twenty twenty, like, 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:14.160 I feel like there was a lot of I feel 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.280 like there was a lot of fake wokeness, sure, a 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:22.600 lot of predatory you know, people were doing a lot 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.000 of posting and a lot of shit just for to 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.720 make themselves feel good. Sure it was very trendy. Absolutely, No, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.640 that's one hundred percent all day. But you obviously ended 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.400 up getting arrested. I think my song was there, Yeah, Yeah, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:41.000 was Trade there? Yeah? Yeah, Trade the Truth? Yeah. What 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.040 is your take on that? Man? Because I do feel 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.880 like we see it now right, Like there's hell of 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.280 shit that's still going on in the world, but it's 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.800 not as trendy it was because it's not as trendy 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.160 for sure. You'll see like a lot of artists like that, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.560 like you were like, oh, a lot of people for 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.120 that matter, Like like like, what is your thought on that? Like, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.320 you know, because as somebody who like really sacrificed their freedom, yeah, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.720 to you know, push against injustice. You know, does it 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.080 kind of make you feel a certain type of way 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.720 when you when you kind of notice it's like there's 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.720 a lot of bullshit going on too. You know, at 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.120 first I did, because again, this is something I've been 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.240 doing since I was like a kid, and you know, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.640 I'm far from an activist. I don't have all the answers. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:24.480 I'm not perfect, but I was going to you know, 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:29.320 Filando Castill protests as a kid Mike Brown and as 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.600 a teenager on my own free will. And the only 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.120 difference now is actually have a platform. And I actually 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.880 got a felony from getting arrested that day, Like I 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.440 just got that removed, Like off my I couldn't even 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.160 like travel overseas or anything because I had a felony. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.960 I couldn't. And so I just got to remove, thank God. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.600 And so I say all that to say, at first, 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.160 I used to get mad because I see a lot 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.120 of people just doing it because it's trendy and you know. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.520 But I was like, you know, especially artists. You know 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:06.040 what the term that I use for it was. I 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.840 forgot the term I had for it, but I can't 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.360 remember off the top of the head. But I can't 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.040 really I forgot the term. I can't remember off AnyWho. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.200 But at first I used to get real mad at like, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.520 you know, all the fake actors, activism, the fake wokeness whatever, 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.280 especially from entertainers and things that nature, because I know 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.880 they're doing it for their own internal benefits so that 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.600 people can be like, oh, yeah, you're a real one, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.800 you really. But then I thought about it, even if 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.120 they intentions aren't pure and coming from a real and 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.040 pure place, at least they are getting the message out 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.080 there the people that need to see it to that. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.800 That's it. Even if you know, like even if you're 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.720 the biggest person on the planet and you don't really 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.800 believe in the cause and you're just doing it from 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.640 an impure place, well, at least you're you're showcasing the 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.280 problems that we got going on in the world in 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.360 general to your platform to where people may be educated 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.520 on it want to do something about it. So I 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.640 don't get add at it, honestly no more. I used to. 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.800 And you know, it's a James Baldwin quote. To be 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:09.040 black in America and just somewhat aware of what's going 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:14.359 on is to be enraged all the time. And I 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.280 try to stay aware of everything, but I try not 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.960 to let everything get me super enraged, if that makes sense. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.119 If you really, like, if you really pay attention to everything, 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.000 that you're going to be mad all the time. It's 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.520 gonna penetrate your peace, No, it is for sure, and 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.040 it does. Like it's hard, especially it's again survivors remorse, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.840 as in even you know, with just my immediate circle, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.159 but just with the whole community as a whole. You know, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.040 you want to do everything and give as much as 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.600 you can possibly to everybody, but it may not even 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.040 be possible. You know. On the project you talk a 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.080 bit about like signing like young, and you know, I 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.680 feel like you're one of the more smarter young artists 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.360 we have as far as I feel like you're very 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.359 self aware. Yeah, started on label high level. What you 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.080 got on your shirt right there. Appreciate you. I gotta 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.800 get you some gears. Well, you know, when you're a 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.160 kid like you, who I mean, when did you sign 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:15.760 officially our eighteen seventeen? I believe so like nineteen. I'm 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.440 assuming that, like you know, you probably have learned a 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.320 lot since then, for sure our business, maybe about your 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.040 own contract, and I'm sure like with your own label, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.040 Like what are the things that you're applying to, like 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.880 being a CEO, having a label, having an imprint that 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.200 you've learned from your own path to you know, being 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.000 on a major label as a as a young unproven artist. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.120 Now for sure, just freedom, creative freedom obviously it goes 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:47.600 without saying, right, allow our artists to control their own destiny, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:53.359 you know, and given whatever knowledge we may have or 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.120 not that we may have that me and the team 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.719 have through our you know, years of experience to the industry, 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.200 because like, I'm not ever going to say here and 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.360 pretend like I got all the answers and I know everything, 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.000 but I will give the information and knowledge that I 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.440 have and utilize even more than that, the resources, the relationships, 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.920 the roller decks that we've been able to build through 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.600 operating at the level we've been operating that and used 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.960 that to build artists. We have our own team of 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:23.840 in house creatives, in house videoographers, photographers, creative directors, management, 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.360 in house A and r's just and everything we want 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.520 to utilize just to build you know, not just artists, producers, 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.760 creatives in any multifascets. Yeah, do you have a Have 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.600 you signed your first artist yet? Uh? No, we haven't. No, 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.920 no noes are actively looking. Man, I'm looking like crazy, 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.040 like I can't wait to go on the road for 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.120 people to come up to me and wrap and pitch 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.960 that stuff because I don't want to. It was a 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.320 couple of artists that I was like very close to signing, 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.520