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Speaker 2: suggest that maybe Kirk Cousins was going to play for
Speaker 2: the Falcons because he said that he was hearing from
Speaker 2: some insiders or some people who had some information Kirk
Speaker 2: Cousins was going to move his family to Atlanta, where
Speaker 2: his wife is from, and then we started to piece
Speaker 2: it together that maybe he could end up with the Falcons,
Speaker 2: which is what happened yesterday. We'll talk to Mike about
Speaker 2: that move and some of the other ones, and Saquon
Speaker 2: Barkley going to the Eagles, Josh Jacobs, Xavier McKinney going
Speaker 2: to the Packers, and the Giants, Land Brian Burns from Carolina. Boy,
Speaker 2: do they they're going to put even more pressure on
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Speaker 2: a moment the Giants All Pro running back, he had
Speaker 2: some words to say to Saquon Barkley, or at least
Speaker 2: on his radio show. I'm going to take you back
Speaker 2: to March seventh, when we got the possibility that maybe
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley could end up in Philadelphia, And here is
Speaker 2: Tiki on his radio show on WFA and in New York.
Speaker 3: The fact that Saquon would even contemplate going to play
Speaker 3: for that team in Philadelphia is insulting to his giant
Speaker 3: history and legacy. Saquon very well not be a New
Speaker 3: York Giant. I know that Joe Shane is having conversations,
Speaker 3: but it just doesn't feel like it's going to work out.
Speaker 3: Go to Baltimore, go to Houston, go to LA Chargers.
Speaker 3: Do not go to the Philadelphia Eagles. Because if you do,
Speaker 3: that appreciation and respect and reverence that we all have
Speaker 3: for you, Saquon will be lost.
Speaker 2: Bring in Tiki Barber. This is just good local radio content.
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley didn't take it that way. Good morning, Tiki.
Speaker 2: How would you sum up this back and forth?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's really a back and forth.
Speaker 5: Then, as you know, being in the industry as long
Speaker 5: as you have been, our job is to entertain, to inform,
Speaker 5: and sometimes get a little bit visceral because that's how
Speaker 5: the fan is and they want to express themselves, but
Speaker 5: they don't often get a chance to call in and
Speaker 5: talk about it, so we do it for them. And look,
Speaker 5: that's how Giant fans were feeling about Saquon Barkley. I
Speaker 5: just happened to be the messenger that got the shrapnel
Speaker 5: from Saquon.
Speaker 4: We decided to respond to the One Day's story.
Speaker 2: Are you going to respond to his response where he
Speaker 2: says that you've been a hater's he got to New York. Well,
Speaker 2: the jed to me talk, don't smile in my face
Speaker 2: when you see me, I smile.
Speaker 5: And everybody, Dan, you know that you've beten me a
Speaker 5: couple of times.
Speaker 4: It's it's part of the job. It's part of the.
Speaker 5: I think reaction that comes from from athletes who think
Speaker 5: the media is always against them. But the reality is
Speaker 5: Giant fans loved the Saquon Barklay. It just felt like
Speaker 5: it wasn't going to work out, and now we have
Speaker 5: to worry about him running all over us for the
Speaker 5: next three or four years down in Philadelphia, and that
Speaker 5: pains us. It really does, and it pains me. So,
Speaker 5: I mean, I still like saque I wish him nothing
Speaker 5: but luck, but he also has to realize that my
Speaker 5: job for the last seventeen years has not been to
Speaker 5: be in a locker room.
Speaker 4: It has been to the voice of a fan on
Speaker 4: the fan.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but if he had gone to the Texans
Speaker 2: or Baltimore, how would you how would you have reacted?
Speaker 4: We would have said, good luck, you know, have a
Speaker 4: great time.
Speaker 6: T J.
Speaker 5: Strouds and quarterback Demiko Rions is a fantastic young head coach.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have a ton of success and it's far
Speaker 5: enough away from us, but we're not gonna feel it.
Speaker 5: I think part of the issue Hereda is we're gonna
Speaker 5: feel this and when they have success, when him and
Speaker 5: DeVante Smith and AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts start wrecking
Speaker 5: havoc on the NFC East again. We're gonna see it,
Speaker 5: We're gonna feel it. It's gonna be right there, and
Speaker 5: it's gonna make us. It's gonna bring us back to
Speaker 5: this moment where he chose the Evils despite not being
Speaker 5: able to get a job a deal done with the
Speaker 5: New York Giants. It's not his fault, obviously, it seems
Speaker 5: like Joe shange priorities or elsewhere and restructuring this team,
Speaker 5: obviously starting with the offensive line and the defensive line,
Speaker 5: which I think is core to any good organization.
Speaker 4: But it's just close.
Speaker 5: It's down the turnpike right, We're gonna see him, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna see him twice a year.
Speaker 2: I think the Giants made a smart move. I think
Speaker 2: Saquan made a smart move. If I put you in
Speaker 2: his position, that you know this team is going to
Speaker 2: be rebuilding and you had this opportunity even though it's
Speaker 2: your bitter rival. Let's play hypothetical running back here, Tiki,
Speaker 2: you know this.
Speaker 5: You know I played ten years. I was a Giant
Speaker 5: for life. There's no way, no way I was.
Speaker 2: Never Let's say they didn't want you. Let's say they
Speaker 2: wanted to move on. They didn't want to pay you
Speaker 2: what you thought you were worth, and they didn't want
Speaker 2: to pay me.
Speaker 4: What I was.
Speaker 5: Guaranteed money to your guarantee you more than I mean,
Speaker 5: I didn't want to pay me. So I know this.
Speaker 5: I didn't have any leverage. I didn't want any leverage
Speaker 5: because they knew I wanted to stay. They knew I
Speaker 5: wanted to be in New York. They knew the relationship
Speaker 5: that I had with the organization, both mayors and the tishes,
Speaker 5: and a fan base whether they loved me or hated me.
Speaker 5: At certain points in my career, I was never going anywhere.
Speaker 5: I knew how important it was to me to be
Speaker 5: a giant for life, and I think Saquon did as well.
Speaker 5: Until the money wasn't there, I mean, went anywhere except
Speaker 5: the one place we didn't need them to go one place.
Speaker 2: Okay, then, how much loyalty should players have?
Speaker 5: It's changed so much because you know this, Dan, The
Speaker 5: money gap has been has gotten enormous. Right, the amount
Speaker 5: of resources that are now gold out to players. Money
Speaker 5: has to be a primary concern because loyalty doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: I mean, say Quon said this, and you know earlier
Speaker 4: this year and talking.
Speaker 5: About the franchise tag loyalty isn't as important as it
Speaker 5: used to be. But I would pose it Dan, that
Speaker 5: rivalry has to mean something right the core of why
Speaker 5: a sport matters.
Speaker 4: It's not just going out and entertaining and being hunky
Speaker 4: dory with one another. When it's over. It has to
Speaker 4: mean something more than that.
Speaker 5: At least that's what the fan thinks, and so I
Speaker 5: think sometimes there is a disconnect between the player and
Speaker 5: the fan. Part of that's obviously because they're on the
Speaker 5: field and the fan is not, But it has to
Speaker 5: mean something. Rivalry has to be important otherwise what the
Speaker 5: hell are we doing it for?
Speaker 2: What would you say if you see Saquon Barkley. When
Speaker 2: you see Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5: I'm sure I will see him, I'll say good luck,
Speaker 5: and as you know, I'm happy for his career. You know,
Speaker 5: it's just a series of unfortunate events that allow his
Speaker 5: giant career not to work out that everyone had envisioned
Speaker 5: in Glenning Dave Getleman when he second.
Speaker 2: Overall, my worry is that he might run into your
Speaker 2: brother Ronde and then punch him, thinking that he was
Speaker 2: punching you. So that's Ronnie's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: Now, all right, you can't punch a hall of fame.
Speaker 2: He's a made man in the mafia. I can't. You
Speaker 2: can't punch all.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Well, you did your job about.
Speaker 4: Mafia, you did. Don't mess with him, you.
Speaker 2: Did your job.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Did you invite him on the show today?
Speaker 4: We have not. We should? Yeah, should results, yes, you know,
Speaker 4: it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 5: Paul Schwartz, you know, and New rorkrot Paul Schwartz once
Speaker 5: told me this is what I was playing.
Speaker 4: Never react to the one.
Speaker 5: Day story, because you're making a two day story, a
Speaker 5: three day story, a four day story, and then it
Speaker 5: goes on and on and on and on.
Speaker 4: And he was right.
Speaker 5: And I'd love to get on and talk to Saquon
Speaker 5: because it's not personal. All the things that we talk about,
Speaker 5: the emotion that we have, the information that we give,
Speaker 5: the entertainment, the visco reactions, it's never personal. It's just
Speaker 5: what the fan is all about. And that's what my
Speaker 5: job is to serve as fan.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you is always thanks for joining us. TEK. Likewise,
Speaker 2: Dan b Will, that's Tiki Barber, former Giants running back
Speaker 2: and he is the co host Afternoons on w Fan
Speaker 2: Evan in Tiki starts at to Eastern. Hey, you got
Speaker 2: to reach out to Saquon Barkley. We did. We wanted
Speaker 2: to have him on and Tiki decided to join us.
Speaker 2: He's doing his job. Tiki did his job. We may
Speaker 2: not like it because he's calling out somebody for loyalty
Speaker 2: and you can't go to your bitter rival. I get
Speaker 2: all of that, But in today's game and he's speaking
Speaker 2: for the fan, he's speaking to the Giants fan base,
Speaker 2: and of course they're going to want to hear this.
Speaker 2: If he have said, hey, I Giants didn't want him,
Speaker 2: I don't blame him. I'd go to the Eagles. He'd
Speaker 2: probably stir up, you know, emotions as well. But you're
Speaker 2: playing to the home crowd. You're pandering to the home
Speaker 2: crowd by saying, I don't know if you know, Saquon
Speaker 2: is leaving his legacy behind. I don't know what his
Speaker 2: legacy is like. You want to be a Giant from
Speaker 2: start to finish, okay, but I think there has to
Speaker 2: be you got to meet somewhere in the middle, and
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like that. I think the Giants made
Speaker 2: the right decision. They're not doing anything this year, probably
Speaker 2: not next year. Why do you want to spend on
Speaker 2: that unless you go we got to have an identity,
Speaker 2: We have to have a personality we could put on
Speaker 2: the program. Well, you got Brian Burns. Now you spend
Speaker 2: a lot of money on him, and you got Danny Dimes.
Speaker 2: Good luck, Yes boy, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 7: It's almost like premature to ding Saquon for this. He's
Speaker 7: not a giant legend. He didn't lead in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: Michael Strahan at thirty seve there's stories here that he
Speaker 7: wanted to play one more year and he wanted to
Speaker 7: play for the Giants, and they let him. They played him.
Speaker 7: He was still a solid player. But imagine if thirty
Speaker 7: six year old Michael Strahan only had an offer from
Speaker 7: a rival, he may have been a guy.
Speaker 8: Said no, no, no, I'll go to the media a.
Speaker 7: Year early because that wouldn't work for my legacy in
Speaker 7: New York.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I get it. You know it's your hated rival, and
Speaker 2: as a Giants fan, you don't want it like I
Speaker 2: think now, it's we hate that we lost him, and
Speaker 2: we hated even more that he's going to come back
Speaker 2: and haunt us. Get that's really what this is all about.
Speaker 2: If he went to Baltimore, he went to Houston, nobody
Speaker 2: would care in New York. But now you're going to
Speaker 2: see him. Now he's going to come to your place
Speaker 2: and you're probably going to boo it, yes, Marv.
Speaker 10: And it's also because of the running back market where
Speaker 10: no one else was offering him a three year deal.
Speaker 10: Where he's like a three year deal for how much.
Speaker 10: That's probably the best deal he definitely could have gotten.
Speaker 10: And I think Paulie said this in our meeting off
Speaker 10: off Mike A. If the agent says he we got
Speaker 10: three year, thirty seven million, I don't care what the
Speaker 10: team is, I don't care who it is, say yes
Speaker 10: right now, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made the right decision. He went where he
Speaker 2: was going to get the best deal. I think it
Speaker 2: was a win win on both. But it's tricky with
Speaker 2: that word loyalty because that everybody has an opinion on it.
Speaker 2: Feels like we were talking about kirk Cousin. Now did
Speaker 2: kirk Cousins turn his back If kirk Cousins had gone
Speaker 2: to well, they don't have an opening in Detroit or sure,
Speaker 2: let's say went Chicago. Would they say, oh, your legacy,
Speaker 2: you turn your back if they offered you a better deal,
Speaker 2: I can't begrudge you. And I think that's what we
Speaker 2: don't factor in. How does this help that person better
Speaker 2: their life or their family. We just look at it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a myopic view. It's about us and
Speaker 2: our fan base and how dare you do that we
Speaker 2: hate the Eagles. If he went to Baltimore, no one
Speaker 2: would care. Yes, Tod, And it's not like.
Speaker 11: The player's tongue, the agent. These are the teams that
Speaker 11: there has to be someone in the division.
Speaker 12: I want to know.
Speaker 11: I only leave because they're not giving me my money
Speaker 11: and respect. I want to stick it to them by
Speaker 11: playing them twice. That's not the case at all. It
Speaker 11: could be the Eagles, that could have been any team.
Speaker 11: He wasn't looking to go to the Eagles or stay
Speaker 11: in the NFC East to just want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he said I only want
Speaker 2: to go to the NFC East so I can stick
Speaker 2: it to the Giants, because the Cowboys were probably interested
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Poem, you could look at show, Hey, Otani. He
Speaker 7: may have wanted to at some point be loyal to
Speaker 7: the Angels. They took him first, let him pitch and hit.
Speaker 7: You know, I bet you there was a point in
Speaker 7: his career or he and his agent where he was like,
Speaker 7: let's stay.
Speaker 8: With the Angels.
Speaker 7: But they gave no reason to the Dodgers of the
Speaker 7: place where you're going to play in October deep in October.
Speaker 8: They could pay more, they have a bigger exposure it.
Speaker 7: Even if there's some loyalty in on Tani's part, that
Speaker 7: would be a tough one to be loyal in that situation.
Speaker 2: I mentioned that kirk Cousins has one playoff win in
Speaker 2: his career, and he's made what close to two hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty million, two hundred and seventy million dollars in
Speaker 2: his career. He'll make over four hundred million dollars when
Speaker 2: he's all done. Forty two quarterbacks in the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: era have only one playoff win. Forty two quarterbacks have
Speaker 2: one playoff win. Here is the group that Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: is in. Aaron Brooks, Bob Lee, brock Osweider, Bobby Brister,
Speaker 2: c J. Stroun, Carson Palmer, Case, Keenum, Chris Miller, Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: David Gerrard, Deshaun Watson, Dieter Brock, Don Meredith, Elvis Kerbach,
Speaker 2: Eric Kramer, Gifford Nielsen, James Harris, Jay Cutler, Jay Fiedler,
Speaker 2: Jeff George, Joe Ferguson, John Wolford, Jordan Love, Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 2: Lynn Dickey, Mark Bolger, Marcus Mariota, Mark Malone, Matt Schwab,
Speaker 2: Pat Ryan Rodney, Pete Scott Brunner, Sean King, Steve Bartkowski,
Speaker 2: Steve Berline, Steve de Berg, Steve Foller, Steve Walsh, TJ Yates,
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow, Tommy Maddox, Tim and Trevor Lawrence. That's the
Speaker 2: one and done playoff today, Studs.
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Speaker 14: Uh, better move the Falcons, signing cousins or the Vikings,
Speaker 14: letting Kirk go. Right now, it's at fifty five percent Falcons.
Speaker 14: I like the positivity today. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 2: I like how they make it seem like now he
Speaker 2: has some weapons to work with. Yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 2: had some weapons in Minnesota, that dome weapons. Oh I know,
Speaker 2: I mean this is it for him? And I said, well,
Speaker 2: he had justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison in a dome.
Speaker 2: Now he's going to go to another dome and he's
Speaker 2: got two receivers who are less accomplished. Although I love
Speaker 2: Jon Robinson. So man, now he's got some weapons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now we can see what. Now, let's see what we'll
Speaker 2: do with some weapons around him. Okay, that sounded like, uh,
Speaker 2: who's our insider, Jimmy Jimmerson. Yeh yeah, it's a little
Speaker 2: yeah from a generic sports guy voice. I guess let's
Speaker 2: go to Jimmy, jim Jimmy, what do you think about
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta?
Speaker 14: Okay, right now they're excited about let's see what Kirk
Speaker 14: can do with these weapons around him.
Speaker 2: Okay, so going to be playing indoor?
Speaker 14: Do you know he loves now he's finally got some
Speaker 14: weapons to maybe match that salary that he's commanding.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Jimmy, it's Jimmy Jimmerson. All right, let
Speaker 2: me take a break. Mike Florio. How the Vikings are
Speaker 2: wondering what they're going to be doing. Mike Florio will
Speaker 2: join us next, trying to make sense of everything that happened.
Speaker 2: Who had a great day, who had the best day
Speaker 2: yesterday and who had the worst day. What are the
Speaker 2: Cowboys doing if they're all in this season? As Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones has said, what are they doing? I guess they're
Speaker 2: all in maybe with the draft and where's Derrick Henry
Speaker 2: justin fields? Where will they end up? So we'll talk
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. Look, Tiki Barber's doing his job.
Speaker 2: He's a former Giant great and he's speaking from the
Speaker 2: perspective of his fan base. The Giants fans upset that
Speaker 2: he left and he's going to the Eagles. He left
Speaker 2: and he got a better deal. He made a smart
Speaker 2: business decision. He's business and the fans are talking about
Speaker 2: just being a fan. It's personal to them, it's business
Speaker 2: to Tiki, and I thought both sides made a smart
Speaker 2: move here, springing Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co
Speaker 2: host and contributed Football Night in America. Man Little vitriol.
Speaker 2: It feels like from the Giants towards Tiki barber that
Speaker 2: or towards Saquon that he made a good business decision.
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised that the Eagles was this a real
Speaker 2: need for them to get Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 12: Well, I think Dan that.
Speaker 6: The best way to build a team is from the
Speaker 6: inside out. The Eagles already have their team built from
Speaker 6: the inside out. Once you build from the inside out,
Speaker 6: you can focus on the luxury pieces on the outside.
Speaker 6: And for them to get a guy like Saquon Barkley
Speaker 6: who can now have his full talents showcased and unleashed
Speaker 6: on the Giants, I mean, that's what makes this so
Speaker 6: emotional for Giants fans because look, folks, he was there
Speaker 6: for six years. He never got a big payday from
Speaker 6: the Giants. They never gave him a second contract. He
Speaker 6: finished three years and became.
Speaker 12: Eligible for one. He didn't get one.
Speaker 6: Now he had injuries, but still after three years, four years,
Speaker 6: five years, six years, they never gave him one.
Speaker 12: The Eagles swoop in with the contract. The Giants never
Speaker 12: gave him. What's he supposed to do? What's he supposed
Speaker 12: to do? But it's the Eagles. They hate the Eagles,
Speaker 12: they love the Giants.
Speaker 6: It reminds me of the old Jerry Seinfeld bit about
Speaker 6: all we're really doing is rooting for laundry. Once you
Speaker 6: change into a different shirt, we hate you. When you're
Speaker 6: in the right shirt, we love you. But now boo,
Speaker 6: different shirt. That's why they're mad.
Speaker 2: The team that had the best day yesterday is who.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I'm a firm believer in being careful the
Speaker 6: first day of free agency because how many times do
Speaker 6: we actually look at one of these big spending days
Speaker 6: and say, oh, wow, they've solved all their problems and
Speaker 6: they're headed to the Super Bowl. But when you look
Speaker 6: at the did with Saquon Barkley, with Bryce huff who
Speaker 6: was one of the more underrated pass rushers in the
Speaker 6: NFL had ten sacks last year and didn't start a
Speaker 6: single game, had pressures.
Speaker 12: According to the Next.
Speaker 6: Gen stats like more than one out of every five
Speaker 6: plays he had a pressure on the quarterback. This is
Speaker 6: a team that's already really good and it's finding ways
Speaker 6: to get better. Overpaying, yes, you always overpay the first
Speaker 6: day of free agency. But when you're already an elite
Speaker 6: team and you have the cap space to target guys
Speaker 6: that make you better on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 6: that's a win.
Speaker 2: I thought Green Bay had a good day yesterday. What
Speaker 2: do you think, Well, look, the.
Speaker 6: Josh Jacobs move was stunning, and when you see four years,
Speaker 6: forty eight million, you say, wow, that's a lot of
Speaker 6: money for a guy that's got a lot of wear
Speaker 6: and tear on the you know, on the frame from
Speaker 6: the years in Las Vegas. But when you look at
Speaker 6: the deal, it's just a one year commitment. Now they're
Speaker 6: going to pay him a lot this first year and
Speaker 6: then they can keep him for the second year. But
Speaker 6: after that, if he's playing well, you keep him. But
Speaker 6: this is what they need for that offense to fully
Speaker 6: unleash Jordan Love. I mean, they've got something in Jordan Love,
Speaker 6: and they've gone out and they've added pieces around him
Speaker 6: now and they're they're trying to make their.
Speaker 12: Move to be an elite team.
Speaker 2: What are the Vikings doing?
Speaker 12: Damned?
Speaker 6: I find tho well and well, look a year ago,
Speaker 6: the vibe that I picked up was let's just get
Speaker 6: through this Kirk Cousins contract and then let's move on
Speaker 6: to try to find a.
Speaker 12: Long term answer with the position.
Speaker 6: They haven't had a true franchise quarterback since fran tarkented
Speaker 6: That's the truth. And Cousins is the first one to
Speaker 6: start eight or more games every year for six straight
Speaker 6: years since Cousins did it or Tarkenten did it for
Speaker 6: seven straight years back in the seventies.
Speaker 12: They want that long term guy.
Speaker 6: And now I think what's gonna happen is with the
Speaker 6: eleventh pick in the draft, they're possibly going to try
Speaker 6: to move up, possibly stay put.
Speaker 12: Sam Darnold is the bridge.
Speaker 6: And you know, one of the realities that the Vikings
Speaker 6: now have Kevin O'Connell gets the most out of whoever
Speaker 6: you put in front of him. So what we saw
Speaker 6: from Cousins the last couple of years is that O'Connell.
Speaker 6: Can O'Connell do that with Sam Darnold? Will O'Connell be
Speaker 6: doing it with whoever they draft? If they get the
Speaker 6: guy they want. But I think that's been the play
Speaker 6: all along. Too much money tied up in Cousins, Cousins
Speaker 6: getting closer to forty. Time to try to find that
Speaker 6: guy in his early twenties that can be the quarterback
Speaker 6: for five, ten years, maybe longer.
Speaker 12: You get an elite quarterback. That's how you compete for championships.
Speaker 8: And the Vikings know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I understand what the Vikings we're doing. A
Speaker 2: guy coming off Achilles surgeries thirty five seem to be
Speaker 2: thirty six, and you have weapons already there and you
Speaker 2: haven't gotten very far. He's got one playoff win in
Speaker 2: his career, and we're going to spend one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars or whatever it's going to be Atlanta.
Speaker 2: What's Atlanta going to get? And how much better is
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins going to make them?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, they don't know what they're gonna get
Speaker 6: because and this is where the tampering that is so
Speaker 6: rampant becomes and obvious. How in the hell did the
Speaker 6: Falcons get to the point where they were comfortable two
Speaker 6: and a half hours into the negotiating window with the
Speaker 6: recovery by Kirk Cousins from his torn achilles tendon to
Speaker 6: make a one hundred and eighty million dollar contract offer. Boy,
Speaker 6: that's a lot of work that got done in two
Speaker 6: and a half hours by the Atlanta Falcons. But when
Speaker 6: you consider how lost they've been at the quarterback position
Speaker 6: since Matt Ryan was traded to the Colts a couple
Speaker 6: of years ago, this is to them a no brainer.
Speaker 6: Let's spend the money, Let's make the team better. Let's
Speaker 6: see what we can do by way of upgrading the
Speaker 6: quarterback position and getting the most out of our weapons
Speaker 6: in Kyle Pitts and Drake London and Bijon Robinson.
Speaker 12: So they're going to find out, and it's a risk.
Speaker 6: It's a calculated risk, especially once you tear that achilles
Speaker 6: on one side. The other one can go too, and
Speaker 6: it's an older athlete injury, and he's going to be
Speaker 6: thirty six. As you said, it's a real risk for
Speaker 6: the Falcons.
Speaker 2: He's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor
Speaker 2: to Football Night in America. I want to give you
Speaker 2: credit because you were the first to kind of put
Speaker 2: out the breadcrumbs that Kirk Cousins that his family. You
Speaker 2: were hearing that they could be moving to Georgia, which
Speaker 2: is where his wife was from is from, and then
Speaker 2: the speculation started that is kirk Cousins going to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: So you might have taken some bullets there from people
Speaker 2: when you put out that initially. But you know, I'm
Speaker 2: going to bring it.
Speaker 6: Back well, and I appreciate it. You know, it's funny
Speaker 6: and I appreciate you saying that. And look, what I
Speaker 6: said last week would have been right if he'd stayed
Speaker 6: in Minnesota. The fact that he went to Atlanta just
Speaker 6: shines a light on the fact that, yes, they were
Speaker 6: looking for schools and houses in Atlanta, and no, it
Speaker 6: wasn't just a leverage play to get the Vikings to
Speaker 6: pay more.
Speaker 12: And you know, I don't just put out there everything
Speaker 12: I hear.
Speaker 6: If I hear something that I think is credible, I start,
Speaker 6: you know, you scratch, you talk to the right people,
Speaker 6: you confirm it, and then you talk about it.
Speaker 12: And it was true.
Speaker 6: They were looking at where they would live in Atlanta
Speaker 6: and where the boys will go to school.
Speaker 12: That's a huge for them.
Speaker 6: When you uproot the lives of two young children, you
Speaker 6: better be comfortable about where you are putting them once
Speaker 6: you make that move. And yeah, but if he had
Speaker 6: stayed in Minnesota, it was still true. But obviously I'd
Speaker 6: be hearing something far different this week.
Speaker 2: Justin Fields possible destinations got one no, And you know, Dan,
Speaker 2: at some point.
Speaker 6: What the Bears need to do is say, you know what,
Speaker 6: we're not going to get anything close to what we
Speaker 6: thought we were going to get for Justin Fields.
Speaker 12: So let's see what.
Speaker 6: Happens after round one of the draft, because maybe one
Speaker 6: of these teams that is thinking they're going to get
Speaker 6: their long term answer via the first round doesn't get him,
Speaker 6: and we got a market in that eighteen hours between
Speaker 6: round one and round two. And then if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 6: let's say they take Caleb Williams. They have Justin Fields,
Speaker 6: a trade market doesn't develop after round.
Speaker 12: One, why not hold on to him. Look at what
Speaker 12: happened last.
Speaker 6: Year, all the quarterbacks that got injured, and the Browns
Speaker 6: are proposing moving the trade deadline from the Tuesday after
Speaker 6: Week eight until the Tuesday after Week ten. That's ten
Speaker 6: weeks of opportunities for a starting quarterback to get injured
Speaker 6: and somebody to say, we got to give up whatever
Speaker 6: we have to give up to get justin fields. If
Speaker 6: they can make that work, if they can keep Fields from,
Speaker 6: you know, getting too frustrated and not being a team player,
Speaker 6: they could maybe wait for the right opportunity and get
Speaker 6: the value in September or October that they're not going
Speaker 6: to get now.
Speaker 2: Any chance the Bears don't take Caleb Williams.
Speaker 12: I'd be stunned. If they don't. I really would be stunned.
Speaker 6: He checks all the boxes, he gets it, mature, serious
Speaker 6: about his craft.
Speaker 12: I'd be stunned.
Speaker 6: Unless the only very small and this is ridiculously small
Speaker 6: because he didn't do the medicals at the combine when
Speaker 6: they bring him into Chicago. If they find something that
Speaker 6: freaks them out, then I assume they'd pivot to Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 6: But the idea of fields being QB one all year
Speaker 6: long without another guy being added, I think that ship
Speaker 6: sailed for the Bears, and if they can't trade fields,
Speaker 6: they're not going to go back on their plan. I
Speaker 6: believe to take a quarterback with the first overall pick.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones says the Cowboys are all in this season.
Speaker 2: What does that mean, Well, this is what's great about
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. It means whatever he wants it to mean.
Speaker 12: It means whatever he can conjure when he's pressed. What
Speaker 12: does all end mean? Oh it means this. Oh it
Speaker 12: means that. Oh it means this. What it meant yesterday
Speaker 12: is they were all out because they didn't do anything.
Speaker 12: The only team that didn't make a move on the
Speaker 12: first day of the legal tampering period of free agency.
Speaker 6: And one of the reasons they can't make a move
Speaker 6: is they got this Dak Prescott cap number fifty nine
Speaker 6: point four million for twenty twenty four. They got to
Speaker 6: do something about that before they know where they're going
Speaker 6: to have room to maneuver. They got Michael Parsons eligible
Speaker 6: for a new deal. He got cde Lamb, who's ready
Speaker 6: for his second contract.
Speaker 12: Yeah, all in is just and dan. The more I
Speaker 12: hear from Jerry Jones, the more I.
Speaker 6: Think that this that's nonsense about I want to win
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl and you'd be stunned at the size
Speaker 6: of the check out, right if I knew that it
Speaker 6: would deliver a Super Bowl. I think that that's just
Speaker 6: a lot of boloney, and he's just trying to keep
Speaker 6: the Cowboys as the most talked about team.
Speaker 12: America's team. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 6: The fact that the Cowboys are still the best draw
Speaker 6: in the NFL after not going to an NFC championship
Speaker 6: game for thirty years. That's more impressive than winning one
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. He's kept that team relevant and we're talking
Speaker 6: about him now because he's always got something that stirs
Speaker 6: it up and makes people think that they're all in,
Speaker 6: when who the hell knows what all in is and
Speaker 6: they're not going to be all in the NFC Championship
Speaker 6: game again this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think he's satisfied with being relevant, not
Speaker 2: necessarily being elite.
Speaker 12: Yeah, all these teams say we want to win the
Speaker 12: Super Bowl every year. We want to win the Super
Speaker 12: Bowl every year.
Speaker 6: Well, if that's truly the way you measure success, you're
Speaker 6: pissed off a lot for Jerry Jones, You're pissed off
Speaker 6: for three full decade. Meanwhile, he's got a giant yacht,
Speaker 6: he's worth billions, and the Cowboys and the most valuable
Speaker 6: property in the entire NFL, even though they haven't played
Speaker 6: for the right to go to the Super Bowl since.
Speaker 12: Nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 6: He I think secretly values what the Cowboys are more
Speaker 6: than this and you look, your competitive nature takes over
Speaker 6: at some point. Yeah, you'd like to win a super Bowl,
Speaker 6: but he's winning a much bigger game and he's got
Speaker 6: the biggest and best team in the NFL despite the
Speaker 6: lack of accomplishments for thirty years.
Speaker 2: What should we look out for the rest of this week?
Speaker 6: Well, look, Derek Henry's still out there, daneil Hunter's still
Speaker 6: out there. The big names that don't do a deal
Speaker 6: right away, that means that maybe they expected more than
Speaker 6: what's out there. And what you're going to see is
Speaker 6: the one year deals. The guys who didn't get what
Speaker 6: they want, they do the one year deal and they
Speaker 6: kick it to next year and they try it again,
Speaker 6: and sometimes it works. Look what it did for Baker
Speaker 6: Mayfield the one year deal last year. Now he's got
Speaker 6: one hundred million dollar contract sort of with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 12: So the one year deals are going to start happen
Speaker 12: in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: And Russell Wilson has a one year deal in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you think of this move?
Speaker 2: I love it?
Speaker 6: And the Steelers had some sort of a change of
Speaker 6: approach here because they had leaked to Jerry Doulak of
Speaker 6: The Post Cazette last month. They're not interested in a
Speaker 6: veteran quarterback who has aspirations to start at the scouting combine.
Speaker 6: That was the vibe, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, that's what
Speaker 6: they're doing. That was the clear understanding I got when
Speaker 6: you're kind of immersed in everything NFL related and then
Speaker 6: out of the blue, here comes Russell Wilson and they
Speaker 6: handed it to do Lac. I don't want to go
Speaker 6: too far inside baseball here, but I don't think it's
Speaker 6: a coincidence that they handed that news to do Lac
Speaker 6: to make up for the fact that they burned him
Speaker 6: with the last one on We're not interested in the
Speaker 6: quarterback who wants to start.
Speaker 12: They got interested in Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6: And it's as simple as dan if he's going to
Speaker 6: play for one point two to one million, It's Truebisky
Speaker 6: just signed for a two point seventy five million base
Speaker 6: in Buffalo to clearly beat the backup to Josh Allen.
Speaker 6: One point two to one million dollar for dollar, that
Speaker 6: is the best bargain you're gonna get. The Steelers have
Speaker 6: five million in caps base tied up now. In their
Speaker 6: top two quarterbacks. That leavest two hundred and fifty million
Speaker 6: for the rest of the team. And if Russ plays
Speaker 6: like he did in Seattle, if he doesn't try to
Speaker 6: do too much, run the offense, roll out once in
Speaker 6: a while, and fire a deep ball to Deontay Johnson
Speaker 6: or George Pickens.
Speaker 12: You couple that with that defense. This is a way
Speaker 12: for Russell Wilson to turn his career around. I love
Speaker 12: this move.
Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh would take what Russ did last year
Speaker 2: in Denver. I think not a bad point.
Speaker 12: Not a bad point.
Speaker 6: And that's the thing, even though it drove Sean Payton
Speaker 6: crazy to pre snap stuff, not getting the play in
Speaker 6: fast enough, not making the adjustments ahead of time for
Speaker 6: that very specific and detailed offense, what let Russ cook
Speaker 6: means is let him get the ball in his hands.
Speaker 6: When he gets the ball in his hands and things
Speaker 6: go sideways, he'll spin. He'll again, He'll find Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 6: This time it's going to be George Pickers and Deontae Johnson.
Speaker 6: He's got a knack from making magic when the play
Speaker 6: that was called doesn't work the way it was intended.
Speaker 6: That's what he can still do, and that's what the
Speaker 6: Steelers haven't had since Roethlisberger was in his prime.
Speaker 2: The NFL sets up its offseason calendar unbelievably. I mean,
Speaker 2: they know what they're doing. So you got this month.
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna have the draft, and then Paul out
Speaker 2: from the draft, and then they give all the other
Speaker 2: sports a chance to make some headlines, and then they're
Speaker 2: gonna come back in July and August and then they're
Speaker 2: gonna dominate again.
Speaker 6: The fact that we know what the regular season games
Speaker 6: will be next year, we know all of the opponents
Speaker 6: when where they'll play their games, We just don't know when.
Speaker 12: And the mirror act at some point.
Speaker 6: In May of announcing the when is bigger than anything
Speaker 6: else that happens in sports. They've got it figured out,
Speaker 6: and I don't know how much of it was deliberate
Speaker 6: and accidental, but they've got it figured out.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you is always Mike. Thanks again,
Speaker 2: all right, but it's Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live
Speaker 2: co host and you can see him and Chris Simms
Speaker 2: their show pre seeds hours on Peacon. Yeah, you have
Speaker 2: this schedule release party. We know what the matchups are.
Speaker 2: We just don't know when we get to see those matchups, like,
Speaker 2: you know, sequentially, you know, when do you play? Do
Speaker 2: you have back to back? Do you have road games?
Speaker 2: Three road games? Are you playing overseas? Like all of
Speaker 2: those things. But we get so excited about it, even
Speaker 2: the Combine. I don't watch the Combine. I used to,
Speaker 2: Now I don't know. It just feels weird watching the Combine.
Speaker 2: But people love to watch it. Networks are covering, breaking
Speaker 2: into coverage, yes, Mark.
Speaker 10: And when the schedule is released, you can already see
Speaker 10: people like, all right, if I'm a Giants fan, I'm
Speaker 10: playing the Raiders, all right, a road trip the Vegas
Speaker 10: or I got a bunch of friends that are forty
Speaker 10: nine ers fans. Hey, how close are they playing DC?
Speaker 10: Al roachrip the DC? They already got, They've already told
Speaker 10: their wives, Ay, Friday will be gone in DC, and
Speaker 10: this all way, So it's a big thing, yeah.
Speaker 2: Poll.
Speaker 7: Some fan bases have the opposite reaction when the schedules released.
Speaker 7: As a Bear fan, I'm like, oh, we got the
Speaker 7: Chiefs in week two?
Speaker 8: Oh oh man, And you start like looking at losses.
Speaker 8: I'm not kidding you. You start going, oh, they waited
Speaker 8: us early.
Speaker 2: I like to look at the first week. I like
Speaker 2: to you know, like there'll be a Thursday game, there
Speaker 2: might be a Friday game, and then a Sunday game
Speaker 2: the first week. At least that's what I'm told. And
Speaker 2: I think that'll be interesting going to be playing in
Speaker 2: different countries and seeing some of these teams that are
Speaker 2: volunteering to be, you know, the host in some of
Speaker 2: these cities. They want to set up their own Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs in Germany or the Patriots are going to
Speaker 2: be there setting up these fan bases like that's our country,
Speaker 2: that's our city. And you're seeing these teams that are
Speaker 2: willing to give up that home game so they can
Speaker 2: go on the road and claim that's their home away
Speaker 2: from home. Yes, John, and the juicy.
Speaker 11: Storylines when the Eagles play at the Giants and the Steelers'
Speaker 11: Broncos and you look at all the trades and free
Speaker 11: agent pickups and who's going against their former coaches and teammates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're gonna have Caleb Williams and his
Speaker 2: first game is gonna be against who or Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 2: So the NFL they know how to roll out a
Speaker 2: schedule that's for sure. All right, last call for phone calls?
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Speaker 9: How you do a couple? Marvin Pace Kinge, what up?
Speaker 2: Son?
Speaker 9: And of course to the good fella's Todd seeing Paulie,
Speaker 9: what's it about?
Speaker 2: It's about.
Speaker 5: Polly?
Speaker 9: I missed you, baby.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 9: All right, couple really quick because I know you against it,
Speaker 9: but I need you to put your helmet on the bucket.
Speaker 9: Tris stops meaning I need you to take this very
Speaker 9: serious because there's actually two dimes on this. Out of
Speaker 9: the three, out of the four fellas you have in there,
Speaker 9: King Marvin and the goodfellas, who would last longer in
Speaker 9: the round with Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2: Wait, you guys are betting money on this.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you have to bet money. Who's going to last longer?
Speaker 9: It's two thousand dollars in the barbershop right now. I'm
Speaker 9: looking at If you want me to live, shoot it
Speaker 9: to you. It's on the floor right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Paul would be extremely competitive, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that he would last. That might hurt him. Todd would
Speaker 2: look like he could do some damage to my type.
Speaker 2: Like said, that's about the extent. Yeah, Seatan would be
Speaker 2: a pest. He would be. He would be, you know,
Speaker 2: doing his best. I would say, Marvin. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: Marvin would be able to hang in there a little
Speaker 2: bit longer, yes, Mark.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, I'm gonna go with Seat because
Speaker 10: young Seat looks like somebody you hit him once. Come on,
Speaker 10: that's just how I like it. And he wouldn't stop. Yeah,
Speaker 10: but he's older now, but maybe maybe young Seaton comes
Speaker 10: back because I'm.
Speaker 2: A young Seatan. No, there's no young ser Yeah, thirty
Speaker 2: nine year old Marvin's out. Yeah Seaton. Young Seaton is
Speaker 2: a completely different person than the guy sitting right here
Speaker 2: in front of you.
Speaker 14: I'm immediately going down. I don't even I'm not even
Speaker 14: remotely interested. My money's on paul because he's definitely competitive, and.
Speaker 2: Like, let me see how I could do with this.
Speaker 6: Let me.
Speaker 9: I'll know.
Speaker 2: I'll know, Marvin. I would say you, I would say you.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a ringing endorsement, but I would
Speaker 2: say you. It's like process of elimination you. Yes, well,
Speaker 2: I mean Paulie would. If Paulie could wrestle Mike Tyson,
Speaker 2: I don't think Paulie could uh could box with you know,
Speaker 2: even stay in there for how long do you think
Speaker 2: you could stay.
Speaker 7: Up as long as Mike chose? Yeah, it's really Mike's
Speaker 7: choice of what he would want to do. In all seriousness,
Speaker 7: if you if we went in, I know what I
Speaker 7: would do. I would probably try to think I could
Speaker 7: do something to stay in longer. I would get knocked
Speaker 7: the you know what out because I would be standing
Speaker 7: in front. I would not take a dive, which would
Speaker 7: be a mistake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, marvh ah.
Speaker 10: Paulie's blind in one eye though, which.
Speaker 2: He's going to be blind in the other one too.
Speaker 2: That is a problem. Yeah, you're not going to even
Speaker 2: see You're not going to see that. That's a blessing though, No,
Speaker 2: nine night, nine night.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 8: I know it's not boxing, but paul is the history.
Speaker 10: When we go to the super Bowl and everywhere he
Speaker 10: takes on all these different.
Speaker 2: Athletes, doesn't he doesn't do well. I mean, he could
Speaker 2: stay in there for a little while. I know you don't.
Speaker 2: You can go in the ring and say, well, I'm
Speaker 2: not afraid. That doesn't mean you're gonna last.
Speaker 9: Yeh.
Speaker 8: A nail getting hit by a hammer is not the
Speaker 8: nails not impressive.
Speaker 2: You don't say, man, that nail. He took everything that
Speaker 2: hammer had to give him.
Speaker 8: Nail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyson would hit you in the body, and you
Speaker 2: would and you would cry.
Speaker 7: I think I'd much rather get hit in the face
Speaker 7: because then it's over in the body. You just sit
Speaker 7: there and soak it in.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that's a lot of that's that's all that
Speaker 10: sounds you're gonna make it. You want a broken jaw,
Speaker 10: broken ribs. I guess I have to kind of decide
Speaker 10: which one heals fast, which one can.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: See, I would much rather have even if it could
Speaker 14: theoretically be more dangerous. I would take a shot to
Speaker 14: the ribs more than have him my face completely busted
Speaker 14: open and have him be like, you know, you're looking
Speaker 14: like all swollen out to here and it's like, that's
Speaker 14: what Tyson did you?
Speaker 9: I'm not that.
Speaker 2: I think if I was going to go down, i'd
Speaker 2: want to go down with the punch to the face,
Speaker 2: you know, not in the ribs, because then you'll be
Speaker 2: like the punch of the face. Then it's that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm down, as long as I don't see your cheek
Speaker 2: and your orbital bone have different matters. Yeah, but several
Speaker 2: events that's okay, look like Martin Short and pure luck.
Speaker 2: It's a random reference. Yeah it is Rando. What do
Speaker 2: you have there, Paul? This day in sports history.
Speaker 7: In nineteen thirteen, the American League approved the name change
Speaker 7: of the New York Ishlanders to the New York Yankees.
Speaker 7: Never knew that before, And this is one of our
Speaker 7: favorites nineteen eighty five, Larry Bird of the Celtics scored
Speaker 7: sixty points in the game, the club record. The game
Speaker 7: was against the Atlanta Hawks in New Orleans.
Speaker 8: I know, very weird. It's the best YouTube video of
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Speaker 2: On this date, nineteen ninety six, Mack Mood abdul Rauf
Speaker 2: indefinitely suspended for refusing to stand and line up in
Speaker 2: a dignified posture during the national anthem. The suspension lasted
Speaker 2: one game. He agreed to stand during the anthem as
Speaker 2: long as he could look down at his hands and pray. Todd,
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