1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: When the radio business has called an appointment setup. It 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: could be the fact that we play the Captain Kangaroo 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: or Oh Happy Day. It's a way that using a sonic, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: using sound, it's a way that you sat a moment 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and a reminder. In musicals, you have what's known as 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: a late motif, which is also when a character walks 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: in his music kind of sets the tone. Well, we 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: have done an Easter special on the good Friday before 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Easter for years and today is no different. And we 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: call back Pastor ed Young a conversation we had with 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: him a couple of years ago, because y'all seem to 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: have loved it so much, and frankly, so did we. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: Pastor Young. I'm going to ask you to start us 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: with the Book of Luke. The Gospels of Luke talk 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: about the Easter story, but if you could, can you 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: put into context why the Easter story is important? 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: A plus question, Michael, I'll tell you that, you know, 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: I've sort of came to myself the early part of 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: this week, by the way. Luke is so important because 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: of the way he handles history. Luke wrote more of 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: the New Testament than anybody else. You think John and 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Paul know Luke. He wrote acts, you remember, and he 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: wrote the Gospel of Luke. More verses are written by Luke. 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: Luke may be the only gentile who's written anything in 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: the Bible. He was a medical doctor, as you know, 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: and a astute historian. So you have touched my number 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: one guy. I love the Gospel of Luke more than 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: anything else. But I think what you're asking me is 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: the same identical question, Michael, that the church at Carrent 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: asked Paul. The most definitive chapter in all the Bible 31 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: and answering all the questions you and I would ask 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: is First Corinthians, chapter fifteen. And what you gave me 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: a little cheat note uphead where we talked about you remember, 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: did what you asked me to think about, Michael, is 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: exactly what they have the apostle Paul in chapter fifteen 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: of First Corinthians. And they said, but someone will say 37 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: verse thirty five, how are the dead raysed? Ooh? And 38 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: with what kind of body do they have? What kind 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: of body do they come with? And that's exactly what 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: Easter is all about. Also this past Monday, I woke 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: up early thinking about Easter. All this week, all the 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: services everything we have. And then I said, you know, 43 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm sort of a hypocrite. I have not exactly expressed 44 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: in all these years of preaching on Christmas and preaching 45 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: on Easter, because every Christmas, Michael, I say, this is 46 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: the most important date in history. And then I turned 47 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: around in Eastern I said, oh no, I said, no, no, no, 48 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: Eastern is the most important day in history. So you 49 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: know both cannot be true. So I sat down, I said, 50 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: all right, what's the difference in Christmas and Easter. They're 51 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: both over the top, vital important facts in history. And 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: then I came up with this. I just said, Christmas 53 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: is the most important event in God's history. Now what 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: does that mean? That means all the prophecy of the 55 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: Old Testament, the promise that God would visit this earth Messiah, 56 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: God would put on human flesh and live among us. 57 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: That was fulfilled in Christmas, and that was thousand years 58 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: of prophecy. I said, all right, Christmas is the most 59 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: important event in God's history. Then I thought about what 60 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: about Easter. Easter is the most important event in man's history. 61 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Because Michael, Easter answers the question is there life after death? 62 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: How do we know can we be sure? Is it 63 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: a myth? Is it legend? Is it absolutely true? Truth? 64 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: So what you gave me the head up to deal 65 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: with was how the dead raised and what kind of 66 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: body they'll have? Paul answers it in one Corinthians fifteen. 67 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: Is at interesting? 68 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: It is interesting? And well, anyway, I'm sorry, go ahead, 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to get distracted and take you off a 70 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: rabbit trail, and I know you've you've got to. 71 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: You can take me down any rabbit trail. Hey, you've 72 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: taken me down there before, Michael. 73 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: So did you? 74 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: Yes? I have. 75 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: So did you come to the conclusion that Easter is 76 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: the most important day of the year and of history 77 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: because it is it is by the resurrection that amen? 78 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: Amen, And we've all lost loved one. You lost your 79 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: brother fairly recently. I've lost a wife, I've lost my parents, 80 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: and I lost a younger brother. So all of a sudden, 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, Michael, this thing of Easter becomes all important 82 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: to us personally, and then we sit down and say 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: it's important to the history of humanity. So let me 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: answer those questions just like Paul did. They asked, well, 85 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: how the dead raised? What kind of body do you have, 86 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: And Paul answered, you know, he said, he said, you fool, 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: He said back, which you. Soul does not come to 88 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: life unless it dies. And he talks about that resurrection 89 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 2: is a natural thing in civilization, in life, he said, 90 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: but God give us a body just as he wished, 91 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: and each one of the seeds the body of his own. 92 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: First thirty nine, he said, all flesh is not the 93 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: same flesh. But there's one flesh of men, and the 94 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: other fleasure bees, and the other fleash of birds and 95 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: other fleasure fish. He said, they're also heavenly bodies and 96 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: earthly bodies. But the glory of the heavenly is one 97 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: and the glory of the earthly is another. Now he 98 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: talks about the glory of the sun, the moon. Et 99 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: cetera said, what does he say? He is saying simply, 100 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: resurrection is a natural thing in life. Michael, You and 101 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: I fish with worms. We have fish with caterpillars. And 102 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: it's amazing to me that that caterpillar can go in 103 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: that cocoon and come out a butterfly. It's amazing to 104 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: me that tadpole can come out of frog. It's amazing 105 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: to me that you can put a seed in the ground. 106 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: And I come from a buke colic, redneck background in Mississippi, 107 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: as you do in Texas. And that seed will come 108 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: up and whatever that seed and it dies, it comes 109 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: up corn, or it comes up tomatoes or whatever. Planet. 110 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: So the whole idea of change and resurrection is built 111 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: in the fabric of nature. So resurrection is a natural thing, 112 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: and therefore we come and see the resurrection also is 113 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: a supernatural thing. And we know that Jesus was imperishable 114 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: to the right hand of God, the vinity in heaven. 115 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: He came to earth, he became imperishable, and that means 116 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: he became human like us. And so we talk about 117 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: the resurrection is natural. We see it in nature. Also 118 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: it is supernatural. And he says in verse forty two, 119 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: so also the resurrection of the dead is sown a 120 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: perishable body. That's when we die, is raise an imperishable body. 121 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to hold you there this money. 122 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Pastor ed Young, Second Baptist Church in Houston is our guest, 123 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: and we will continue our conversation about the meaning of 124 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: Easter to us. 125 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: The push era in Texas ends today the. 126 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show. Pastor I interrupted you you were talking 127 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: about the Book of Luke, and you were talking about 128 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: the importance of Easter. I would like to for folks 129 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: who have never had this experience, maybe they hadn't been 130 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: to church since they were a child, maybe they have 131 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: a rough estimation. Let's talk about the actual the actual 132 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: moment around which this happens, and what the Bible says 133 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: happens and what that means. Can you go through that 134 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: for us bit by bit, and by the way, we're 135 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: going to be in the Book of Luke. 136 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Presumably, Well, I've moved back into Corinthians a little bit 137 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: because they matched. Corinthians really explained Luke is a historical 138 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: part primarily, as you know, Michael, But Corinthians explains to 139 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: us what the history is all about. Now, if you 140 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: talk about historical this is interesting. There is more evidence 141 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: that Jesus Christ was bodily raised by the Father from 142 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: the dead, then there is evidence that Julius Caesar ever 143 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: conquered Britain. In other words, the truth of the resurrection 144 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: of the body. It has more historical verification and evidence. 145 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: And Michael, you used to be a law you. 146 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: Remember, it's been a while, but I do all right. 147 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: When you go into court if you got circumstantial evidence, 148 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: that's overwhelming, right, and then you've got eye witness evidence 149 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: that's empirical evidence, that's overwhelming. Michael, You'll win that case 150 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: every time, correct, you'd hope, so, yes, I think you would. 151 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: And that's what we have in the Resurrection of Christ. 152 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: We see there on that Easter morn. We know the 153 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: first people that went to the grave, what did they see? 154 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: From a distance, they would have seen a giant stone 155 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: rolled way. They were weigh anywhere from a ton and 156 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: a half to two tons. And then they would ask 157 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: the question, I'm sure, wasn't that stone put over the 158 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: grave of Jesus had the Roman seal around it? And 159 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: nobody in that day would break a Roman seal because 160 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: it would be immediately punished by death. And then they 161 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: would go and they would look into the tomb. They'd 162 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: see that it is empty. They'd look at the grave 163 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: clothes and they would see that they were like a chrystalis. 164 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: They were still in the form of the body, and 165 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: they were looking there and they would see a napkin 166 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: neatly folded. All of this is circumstantial evidence. You wonder 167 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: what happened. And then you would see the napkin interesting 168 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: has real importance for it. Just a napkin folded there, 169 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: the body is gone. Here's the sort of the shadow 170 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: of the body, the cloth still there, the burial garments 171 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: still came. The napkin tells you two things of all 172 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: in that moment of history. If you were eating and 173 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: you were coming back, you got up to do something else, 174 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: you would fold your napkin. If you were not coming back, 175 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: you just put your napkin down your chair. By the way, Michael, 176 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: this is what we should do today. Incidentally, and so 177 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: when they saw that folded napkin in retrospect, they would say, 178 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: he's gone and he is coming back. And then you 179 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: would see that's a little side street. Then you would 180 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: see also other questions being asked, what about those Roman 181 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: guards who were there. There's a whole explanation for that. 182 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: And you go on and you see then the eyewitness accounts. 183 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: This is I could give a lot of circumstantial evidence, 184 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: forensic evidence, but then the empirical evidence would be eye 185 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: witness accounts. Jesus dead three days, the Father raised him 186 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: from the dead, and then you see eleven different appearances 187 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: over four days, and all kinds of circumstances, to people 188 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: who did not believe him, to people who doubted him, 189 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: to his friends, to family, and finally to five hundred men. 190 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: And that would mean the women would not even be 191 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: counted in that day, or the teenagers of the children. 192 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: And then you have all of these evidences of that. 193 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: And to give you an illustration, you as an attorney, 194 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: if you had five hundred witnesses and they testified, say, oh, 195 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: six minutes of peace, you would have over fifty hours 196 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: of personal witnesses saying he was dead, I saw him 197 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: of the cross and buried, and he is alive. You know, 198 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: I think that's the case that even I could win. 199 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: So you have this tremendous evidence of the truth of 200 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: the resurrection. 201 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Pastor ed Young of Second Baptist Churches, our guests, with 202 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: Easter upon us today being Good Friday and Easter being 203 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: two days away, let me ask you Good Friday, the 204 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: day of Jesus' crucifixion, talk a minute, if you would, 205 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: or more than a few minutes about that crucifixion. Why 206 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: was that important as part of everything that was to 207 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: be that being one of the major stages. 208 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: In that Well, let me say this reverently Michael, you 209 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: are known for your reverend so you just say things 210 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: as they are. I'll save this. Am I right? 211 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: You have said for years, Michael, I enjoy your show, 212 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: but sometimes you say some things that make me cring. 213 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: You know what, You've been very consistent, and I appreciate that. 214 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: Michael. Let me say this, and I say this irreverently. 215 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Number one, Jesus was a garbage collector. What he did 216 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: on that cross, he took all the shame, the lust, 217 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: the hypocrisy, the lives, the phoniness, all of that on himself, 218 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: all of your garbage and all of my garbage, and 219 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: for that matter, of the world's garbage. And then that 220 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: was the only time that the Father turned away from him. God, 221 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: the Father, he says, my God, my God, why have 222 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: you forsaken me? The reason was, God is holy. He 223 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: cannot look and tolerate any form of trash any time, anywhere. 224 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: And here all of that went on Jesus, and Jesus 225 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: paid the price that you and I should pay for 226 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: all of our trash, and so we will not have 227 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: to pay the price when we die and leave this earth. 228 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: And so Jesus, the Bible says, went to hell and 229 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: hell is the absence of God. And that's exactly what 230 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: happened to Jesus on the cross. He took all of 231 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: our stuff and took all the penalty that you and 232 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: I deserve upon himself, so that when we were see 233 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: him and our life convicted of sin, confession of sin, 234 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: reception of Jesus, my my, then we have a new life, 235 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: a new life in him. Now. He took all of that. 236 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: So the heavenly Father, he looks at Michael Barry had 237 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: young anyone else who's in Christ, and say, hey, you're 238 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: perfect in my sight. And we had to be perfect. Oh, 239 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: we never get to heaven. We never would make it 240 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: perfection on this earth. Christ demonstrated that perfection, took that 241 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: upon himself, and our God is a just God, and 242 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: that satisfied his justice. And this gives us a way 243 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: to know that when we're absent for the body in 244 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: this life, Michael, we are present with the Lord Almighty 245 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: in heaven, as we talk about in a minute, with 246 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: that new resurrection body. 247 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Pastor holds, Yes, it does. Pastor Edgung As our guest, 248 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: will continue our conversation about Easter, the resurrection, why it 249 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: matters today, coming on we. 250 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: Will restore the American repub Michael verys you for your support. 251 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: We will make in America powerful again. 252 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: The annual markers we have on the show, I find 253 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: the adoption special we do to be very emotional for 254 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: me and very powerful Mother's Day, Father's Day, and hopefully 255 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: we make people better mothers and fathers out of it. 256 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: When we celebrate our veterans, I think hopefully it gives 257 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: some pride to our veterans and it makes folks more willing, 258 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, to reach out and thank them and not 259 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: take them for granted. Our Easter Friday, Good Friday Easter 260 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Show always reminds me in such a poignant way of 261 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: the uplifting message of resurrection and the uplifting message of 262 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: my faith. And intuitively we know that John three point 263 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: sixteen right, but it's just good. And I think Pastor 264 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: ed Young, who was for many years. He's no longer 265 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: the lead pastor at Second Baptist, his son Bennis, but 266 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: for so many years he was the pastor, and I've 267 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: always felt this is such a good message. So that's 268 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: why we pull this one out and dusted it off, 269 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: because I think it's it's just perfect for our time. Pastor, 270 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: I want to rewind you. We've been talking about Easter 271 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: and the Sunday. I want to rewind you to Good Friday, 272 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: the day of the Crucifixion, and put into perspective what 273 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: happened there. Christ was not the only person who was 274 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: put upon across He was not the only person who 275 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: was to be stoned to death. But this was an 276 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: important part of everything that was supposed to happen, happening 277 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: such that Easter and the Resurrection could happen. Describe what 278 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: was going on at that time and how this came 279 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: to be. 280 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, Jesus would someone who 281 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: always swam upstream. People say, you know, Jesus didn't get 282 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: involved in politics. You're involved in politics, Michael, I've gotten 283 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: involved in politics. You say, why Jesus, I think was 284 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: a master politician. Politics in this purest definition, means relationships. 285 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: It has to do relationships, and Jesus was God's son 286 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: or relations with the Father. And then Jesus moved out 287 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: in relationships in the world. And so I say Jesus 288 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: got in trouble because he stood against the Pharisees, the Sadducees, 289 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: the Esses, the Erodients, all the political parties of that day. 290 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: You say they weren't political, they most certainly were, because 291 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: there was a theocracy, you know, spiritual things combined with 292 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: physical things. And when he stood in the way, when 293 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: he claims the temple of all the con artists and 294 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: money changers that were there and all those who were 295 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: fleecing the people, man, that was a political statement, and 296 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: that would sort I think, Michael, the last straw. They said, 297 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: we got to get rid of this guy. And that's 298 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: the background, a partial background of why they nailed him 299 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: to the cross. An innocent man found guilty, and then 300 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: God used that to provide for you and me a 301 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: way to get right with him now and get right 302 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: for him with him forever. So you can take three 303 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: symbols and you can cover Christianity if you fill the gaps. 304 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: And the first would be a cradle, and the second 305 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: be a cross, two big hunks of wood nailed together 306 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: to kill somebody. And the third would be an open 307 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: cave the two You take those three things right there, 308 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: very simple, very practical, and you have the whole thrust 309 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: of Christianity. Jesus died so that we might know the truth, 310 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: and the truth will set you free. If we don't 311 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: know the truth, what happens, we're not set free, We're 312 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: in bondage. And those the world needs to know the 313 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: truth that they can know God. God's made himself obatable. 314 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: We can turn away from the trash in our life 315 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: and repent and receive him, and he gives us brand 316 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: new life and the promise Michael, of a resurrected body 317 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: in heaven. And I want to talk about that resurrected 318 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: body if we could, just like Paul does here in 319 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: Corinthians Perfect, go ahead. Well, the thing about it, your 320 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: body and my body we are deteriorating. Now, you in 321 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: great shape, you fast. I know that you've lost a 322 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: thousand pounds. How much have you lost, Michael, seventy pounds? 323 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Thank you? 324 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. And so that's the temple. 325 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 2: But we know, regardless of how well we eat, run, jog, vitamins, etc. 326 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: There's going to come a time in this body that 327 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: we I have, as magnificent as it is, is going 328 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: to wear out and we're gonna stop breathing and we're 329 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: gonna graduate from this life. What happens, then, here's the thing. 330 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: Your body in my body is not built for eternity. Correct, 331 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: it's not built, it's not gonna hold up, it's gonna be. 332 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: We we're gonna waste the way this old body is 333 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: gonna rock. What's gonna happen? If we're in Christ. We 334 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: get a resurrection body. And this you know. I start 335 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: all by saying it is natural, the revelation. Resurrection is natural. 336 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: It's also supernatural. But then Paul tells us the kind 337 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: of body we're gonna be. It's it's beautiful. He says. Behold, 338 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: I tell you a mystery. This is the fifty first 339 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: verse of First Corinthians. We will not all sleep, let's die. 340 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: We will be changed. And in a moment, in the 341 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: twinkling of an eye of the last trumpet, for the 342 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: trumpet shall sound, and the dead will be raised. Get 343 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: this imperishable and will be changed for this perishable. That's 344 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: your body, my body. Now everybody's body must put on 345 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. We 346 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: get a resurrection body. The prototype Michael is a resurrection 347 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: body Jesus had when God raised him from the dead, 348 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: and he lived on this earth for forty days. He 349 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: ate fish, he fried fish. He said, hey, Dalton. Thomas 350 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: didn't believe that he could come back, and then Jesus said, 351 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: look at my hands, look at my feet. He had 352 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: a physicality to him, but also he could go from 353 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: here to there, and he was in another dimension. He 354 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: could walk right through walls and appear. That is a 355 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: prototype of the resurrection body that we'll have in Christ, 356 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: in Paradise forever. That's what your brother has right now, 357 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: That's what fam have everyone who died in Christ. So 358 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: that's a beautiful promise to me. And Paul ends up 359 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: in here he says, oh, Death, where's your victory? Death, 360 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 2: where's your steam? The sting of death is sin, and 361 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: sin was taken care of by Jesus, our garbage collector 362 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: on the cross. And the power of sin is the 363 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: law do right, do wrong, the law that just diagnoses 364 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: when we filed up and when we strike out or 365 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: we fumble. But then Paul says, but thanks be the 366 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: God who gives us the victory through Jesus Christ, our Lord. 367 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: You see the bottom line, Michael, Because Jesus conquered the grave, 368 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: we too will conquer the grave. To be absent from 369 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: the body is to be present with the Lord. 370 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to hold you rut there. We will finish 371 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: up the show with Pastor ed Young the Second Baptist 372 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Church and talking about how this message relates to our world, 373 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: our lives on this day coming on the DA filed 374 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: emotion against my chief of stuff, that is enough. 375 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: Evidence we had better throw those bombs out of office. 376 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: I was asking my email. Will we end up interviewing 377 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: another pastor for our Easter message going forward? Maybe maybe 378 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't intend to play Pastor ed Young every year. 379 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll put a year or two in between. But 380 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: I have to tell you listening to it to make 381 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: sure that there weren't references to, you know, a church 382 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: service that's not actually coming up because it was in 383 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: the past. Listening to it and hearing the message again 384 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: before now, I just find it such a wonderful message. 385 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: And I've watched a lot of Easter specials. In fact, 386 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: our Saturday podcast tomorrow is the Reverend Billy Graham standing 387 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in the rain on a stormy 388 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: talking about another stormy night when Christ was crucified, And 389 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: it's just a beautiful, beautiful message. And you know, Reverend 390 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: had Young comes from that line of pastors, and I 391 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I just maybe it appeals just to me. 392 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you what you think. But 393 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: here you go. I'm going to shut off my mic 394 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you up until thirty seconds 395 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: left in this segment, which is about seven minutes to 396 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: talk about how we can apply this Easter message to 397 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: our own lives. 398 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Pastor d Young, When we received Christ into 399 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: our lives, he tells us in John ten ten, I 400 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: have come that you might have life and have it 401 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: more abundantly, and that is life. Now when we come 402 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: to Christ and let him become not only our savior 403 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: but our lord to run our life, and it tells 404 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: us how we'll have life forever, so that abundant life 405 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: begins now the resurrection life actually begins. Now we have 406 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: a new life. We are changed, and we use the 407 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: old expression, biblical expression, being born again. Isn't that something? 408 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Old things have passed away? When we receive Christ, we 409 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: don't get better, we don't improve, We just become brand 410 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: new creations of God. And the resurrection power. Can you 411 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: imagine the amount of power it took for the Father 412 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: to take Jesus, who was dead three days and take 413 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: that dead body and bring it back to life. What 414 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: kind of power is that? That's the power that we 415 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: receive and we get when we receive Jesus. Christ said, well, 416 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I have that power. We don't 417 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: use it. We use this a small bit of that 418 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: resurrection power and that resume direction power that we have. 419 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: It changes our minds, our hearts, our motives, and all 420 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: of a sudden we begin to get insight into the broken, godless, 421 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: woke culture that is this overwhelming us in our land. 422 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: Christ wants to come and use you and use me 423 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: to be the salt, the light, the key, the leaven 424 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: to change this world. So all I'm responsible for is 425 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: my little rem of the Kingdom of God here now 426 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: as a person who is in Christ. And that's all 427 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: your responsible for. When we begin to let the light 428 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: of God and Christ shine in our lives, the darkness 429 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: that we feel that is pervading all around us, we 430 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: will let this little light shine for him. Jesus came 431 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: that there may be light, insight, wisdom, and so I 432 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: would say, wherever you are, whatever your circumstances, you say, well, 433 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: I'm limited here. I have this use that for God 434 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: and for Christ, and let him work in and through 435 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: your life. You know, God only has your hands, my hands, 436 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: your feet, my feet, your mind, my eyes. That's all 437 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: he has, but my goodness. If we turn that over 438 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: to Him and let the resurrection power of Christ live 439 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: in us, all of a sudden, you know what happens. 440 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: Death is dead. That's a big thing to live as 441 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: though you're already in heaven. Heaven begins now in one 442 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: sense because death is dead. Not that there's not fear 443 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: and apprehension, but it is dead and crucified because we 444 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: know to be in Christ, to be absent from this body, 445 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: to be present with the Lord. And this gives us 446 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: a freedom. This gives us a liberty, and this gives 447 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: us I don't like the word hope. The biblical word 448 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: for hope is not our word. We say, well, our 449 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: hope it will happen. That's not the biblical word. The 450 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: biblical word for hope is I look forward to You 451 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: don't say I hope the sun's going to come. But 452 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: in the morning, we know the rotation of the earth 453 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: around the sun, it's going to appear to come up 454 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: in the morning. That's a sure and that's the way 455 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: it is a biblical hope. We know. To be asked 456 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: from this body is to be present with the Lord. 457 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: And we know that death is dead. And in that 458 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: light we can serve in freedom, in liberty without fear, 459 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: and we can make a difference in the broken world 460 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: in which we live. Other than that, we're just breathing 461 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: air and going through the monotony of life and trying 462 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: to do this. And trying to do this, we put 463 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: Christ in the center, this resurrected Lord. I can tell you, 464 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, that will change you and everybody. You'll say, boy, 465 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: what's happened to bell Man? You know Alice is different. 466 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: Alice has simply said, I've got out of the way myself, 467 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: my selfishness, and I'm going to let God work in 468 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: my life. Doesn't mean we walk around with pull bit 469 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: Bibles under our arm, but it means we walk around 470 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: as light barrows in a world that so desperately needs 471 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: truth and light to shine in every endeavor in which 472 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: we're part. 473 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: Pastor, I'm going to stop you there and ask that 474 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: you do one more thing before we close the show. 475 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: I've got about a minute and a half and I 476 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: want to ask you to pray for our listeners and 477 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: for this great country. 478 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: If you would, please, Dear Heavenly Father, all of us 479 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: this moment know that America is in trouble, that the 480 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: world is in trouble, and we talk about it, we 481 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: discuss it, we expressed to one another that and we 482 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: see where we are that America's son has somehow has 483 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: wandered away from the basic principles of being a Judeo 484 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: Christian nation under a constitution that was written and framed 485 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: in prayer by God fearing men. Lord, May we return 486 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: to you, may return to your body, the Church, and 487 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: realize that that's what the institution you have put in 488 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: this world to permeate everything else. And we know the 489 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: gates of hell will not prevail against your church. And 490 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: we see the gates of hell being erected around our government, 491 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: our White House in Austin, our schools, our institutions. I entertained, 492 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: we see gates of hell all around these things. Father, 493 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: But we know that your Church, alive with Christian people, 494 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: will permeate that. And that's our hope for today, and 495 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: I hope bring us home to you this Easter, Lord, 496 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: the realization of what it can mean for men and women, 497 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: young people, to come alive from Christ. The life that 498 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: you gave to Jesus will come to us. May we 499 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: use that life and that light wherever you find us 500 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: today this Easter. Through the name of our resurrected Lord 501 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: and Jesus, we pray Amen, Amen, master ed young. 502 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, and we love you. 503 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, love you. Have a great Easter. Michael