WEBVTT - Daya 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:04.880 Hello, everyone, Welcome to Inside the Studio and I Heart Radio. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.360 My name is Jordan runt Hog. But enough about me. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.000 You could call my guests today. A pop prodigy at 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.400 a j teen, she became one of the youngest Grammy 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.919 winners ever for Don't Let Me Down, her song with 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.440 the Chain Smokers. That same year, she released her debut LP, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.920 Sit Down, Look Pretty. She's a veteran of Forbes thirty 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:35.280 Under Thirty and Billboards on Lists. Recently, she took a 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.280 step back from music to reconnect with herself and her life. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.480 But now she's back and she has a lot to say. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.760 Now twenty two, she's entering an exciting new chapter of 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.800 her career. There's a new label, new songs, and a 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.560 new single, bad Girl. She says the track is among 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.159 her most personal to date, a direct reflection of her 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.360 life's experiences. That sense of intimacy permeates her work in progress, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.160 an EP that's coming soon. Today, we're gonna hear more 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.400 about her creative rebirth. I'm so happy to welcome Dya. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.240 Of course, I'm so excited to be here. It's so 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.760 great to talk to you. First things first, UNI track 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.880 is called bad Girl. It's a very loaded phrase in 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.479 our culture. But you're flipping the narrative with your song. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.600 Tell me a little bit about Yeah, So, I actually 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.880 wanted this to kind of play off of personal experiences 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.800 I've had with the time. Loosely with the time, but 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.920 more just kind of like that sort of stereotype which 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:29.680 I think is projected onto women who are bold or 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.920 as sort of or kind of you know, speak confidently 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.200 and for what they want and don't really care about 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.720 if it clashes with the what the people around them 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.479 are saying or whatever. And I think that I, over 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.360 time have been just when I was younger, I think 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.080 when I was a teen, but also throughout my budding 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.040 adulthood too. I think I've been in situations where I've 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.040 been more you know, like I don't want to do this, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.000 let's go in this direction, or just more as sort 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.800 of in that way with my writing and with other 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.120 aspects of my career. And I have been called a 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.240 problem child before. I've been called just other like miscellaneous 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.360 like things that you would say, like about someone who 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.519 is kind of like embodies that stereotype, I guess, um, 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.200 who makes other people feel uncomfortable because of their like 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.079 a sort of nous um and I feel like as 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.959 a woman, we run into that so much in kind 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.320 of like a male dominant culture, and the music world 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.840 is definitely not it is definitely I would say is 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.720 would be included in that. And yeah, I think I 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.560 think it was just about like flipping that on its 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.120 head and being like, no, a bad girl isn't someone 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.920 who did something bad. It's about someone who is not 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.320 afraid to speak up for what they want and even 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.160 if it means like clashing with what you know the 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.840 people around them want for them. So yeah, it's kind 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.040 of a way of reclaiming the termine term I guess. Awesome. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.480 Maybe in a lot of ways, it sounds like the 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.639 antithesis of your first album titles. It's still look Pretty. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.960 It's kind of like which I know obviously was was 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.000 done in a in a in a sarcastic uh, but 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.200 playing off that was funny to see the two together. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.720 I think it feels like messaging, like kind of a 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.080 continuation of that. People pointed that out to me, and 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.600 I feel like it definitely feels like I was trying 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.519 to say similar things in both. Yeah, it's cool. I 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.919 love the track. The song was co produced I believe, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.200 and also co written with Charlie Pooth. What was it 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.400 like working with him in the studio or was this 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.320 during COVID or was this pre this was during COVID. Yeah, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.320 so this was we we actually wrote all together in 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.760 the studio for one of the only person sessions I've 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.960 had this year. And I think because of that, we 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.920 just felt this like energy, this like this more like 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.400 you know, we were all so excited to be back, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.600 and it was there such a flow to it. And 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.080 Charlie wasn't actually there that day, but Jay Cash, who 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.120 is the owner of my label and my co writer, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.240 he wrote it when he was there. He wrote it 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.040 with us, and just in that moment. The best thing 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.320 about working in this kind of label structure is that 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.920 with him being my the owner of my label and 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.440 also my co writer, is that we can write anything 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.120 and then a second after be like, okay, we're putting 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.280 X and yeah, this is the next single. So we 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.080 decided in that moment. And then he's just really good 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.360 friends with Charlie, so he sent it over to him, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.520 and Charlie loved it and he wanted to throw some 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.800 production on it, and yeah, it's really cool. I love him. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.359 I love his music. He's so talented, so it's a 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.800 it's a definitely cool thing that he wanted to do 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.760 that an incredible track. How have you been feeling just 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.360 creatively in the last year. Obviously the last year during 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.440 lockdown has been tough, But have you been feeling really 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.359 productive creatively or has it been been sort of struggle 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.800 to get your head into that space. Every day has 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.640 been different, and the first few months, I didn't want 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.680 to look at right. I didn't want to go in 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.240 my studio. I didn't think about writing, I didn't want 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.760 to think about singing. I was just like, no, I 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.600 need to sit in my bed and watch TV all 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.000 day and not think about anything else happening in the world. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.200 So I did that, and then I feel like I 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.920 got that out of my system, and I'm someone who 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.520 just can't sit still really after well not to yeah 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.880 play on my Yeah, I think I was just going 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.080 to start crazy, and I wanted to get out and 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.800 start creating and writing more. So I built this like 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.480 little makeshift studio in my house and started teaching myself 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.120 how to produce, and I started writing on my own, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.920 which I haven't done in like four five years before 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.839 everything kind of started for me professionally, and which is 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.960 really cool. And yeah, just just kind of like sitting 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.160 with my thoughts and and I think that that was 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.160 a really good thing to happen before this next era 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.040 of releasing music, because I had just the most clarity 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.520 and the most time to like, if this isn't the 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.479 best reflection that I can do with myself right now, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.119 I don't know what will be because I have spent 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.720 so much time on this stuff. So what is your 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.479 process for that? Is it something that that you do 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.600 almost like a meditation practice practice or an exercise practice 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.800 for you? Every day you're there and some days some 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.040 days you're good, some days the muse comes and some 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.560 days not. Or do you do you sort of only 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.279 sit down when you have an idea already going in 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.000 your head. I feel like I definitely I don't try 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.120 to force it because otherwise it feels like work, It 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:06.840 feels like something I don't want to do, And then 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.880 ultimately like I'll be more critical of myself, I'll be 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.320 hard on myself, Like I'll just set up these boundaries 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.320 in my head where I won't go certain places. But 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.320 I feel like if I have an idea just out 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.520 of nowhere. I'll tend to follow that and to just 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.280 lead me to wherever it goes. And I think that 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.080 that's just like something that I found is the best 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.560 way of writing for me personally, is because I just yeah, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.800 I feel like if I try to force it, it it 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:32.800 just it never works out the way I wanted to. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.200 There's a video you shared, I think it was over 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.560 the summer, captured relearning the guitar, and you were playing Blackbird, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.960 which was I think probably the first class Oh my god, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.640 I think that was the first song I learned on 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.200 guitar that I was ever really proud of. That was like, yeah, yeah, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.760 that was I thought it was a lot more advanced 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.159 than I was. And then a lot of people were like, no, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.320 we all learned that as our first risk. So yeah, 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.320 I I tried picking up the guitar. I used to 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.120 play actually a lot when I was younger, just core, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.320 like more like UM chords, the same like four five 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.640 six chords or something UM just when I would play 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.680 shows like uptown from my house and like a little 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.120 coffee shop or whatever when I was younger. But yeah, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.280 I never I never really got into like finger picking 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.840 or anything like that. So it's been fun. I've been 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.280 trying to learn from YouTube. There's so many there's like 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.960 such a world of tutorials and literally any any that 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.720 you can never imagine is on there. So trying to 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:36.200 pick it up again. Um, I tried to learn going 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.760 to California, but that's really that's a lot harder. So 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.600 I'm trying to but who knows what It's just gonna 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.720 be super Yeah, I'm never going to release anything that 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.800 I've ever doing on the guitar. It's just more for me. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.280 I know. No one wants to hear that. Not at 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.040 this point. Oh, I loved your version of Blackbird. I 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:02.680 mean the Beatles, my you know, my everything, My responsible 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.000 for every creative impulse I've ever had. Are there any 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.160 people like that in your life? Are there any musicians 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.880 out there that made you want to want to be 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.040 a musician? The Heroes? Yeah. When I was younger, my 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.400 parents listened to a lot Atlanta's more Set. Actually the 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.160 first cover that I did live. I was nine and 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.560 I was in this like rock band that it was 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.560 like a summer camp type thing, and we played at 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.480 this bar right next right near my house, and um, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.000 ironic was like one of the first songs that I 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.199 ever learned how to play. Um, I put on the 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:38.360 piano and I loved her. I loved Died Oh a lot. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.760 I really loved her tone and her her like grittiness. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.040 I guess, I guess there's more like soulful, and then 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.640 and Atlantis just kind of had that more like raw 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.400 like gritty feel, and then Amy Winehouse was like, my 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.720 my god, probably ultimately got into music more than anyone 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.079 cannot ever anything like I still to this day, like 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.959 constantly watching her perform, watching her like, yeah, listening to 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.320 her early albums, I feel like she's someone who just 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.840 you can always learn something like pick up something on. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.000 Her music has been fun as an adult because as 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.240 a kid, I feel like I loved just listening for 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.640 fun of it obviously, but now it's like every little 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.199 like riff and scat choice and everything is just it's 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:30.440 so cool to listen to you now. So much is 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.520 made of her her voice, which is just, you know, 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.040 obviously one of a kind, and her phrasing is amazing. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.760 But I feel like I've been I've been discovering more recently. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:42.479 Her lyrics are just incredible. They're just raw and fearless, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.840 and she just she really goes there. I mean, that's 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.840 what I really love about her. I think that her 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.160 lyrics were really what drew me in. I mean, yeah, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.959 her voice too. I feel like the combo of the 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.840 two is just like it feels like you're in wherever 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.600 she was making this, making the album with her. It's 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.840 just so personal and so like prete flowing and just 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.840 flow of thought. Yeah, and it's it's really really cool 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.160 because I feel like there's really not a lot of 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.439 that out there that feels that that personal, so are vulnerable, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.040 so it's cool. This is probably a weird question, but 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.640 would you consider yourself an old soul? I've heard that 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.680 a lot before. Maybe I don't know, who knows. I 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.600 haven't gotten into the phase where I'm like into like 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.920 looking into a bunch of different religions and like reincarnation. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.640 You're not getting your chart done, you're not getting your 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.720 estrological get that up. But I feel like I feel 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.560 like it's coming soon for me. But I feel like 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.160 I definitely could believe in reincarnations if someone gave me 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.200 a good explanation for it. But I don't know. Maybe 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.199 I was an old lady in my past life, I 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.480 lived to be like a hundreds something. I think that's 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.040 one of the things I love about Amy As. I 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.280 feel like I I pick up on that in her music, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.959 and I also in yours too. I feel like that 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.840 there's a lot of experience in the lyrics and it 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.920 comes through in every every line that you say. And 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.600 I sensed that in both of you. That's fine. Well, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.120 I ask thank you so much, thank you. I appreciate 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:10.280 that's a huge honor. Thank you. Such a bizarre, transformative year, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.360 I suppose, is the most positive way I could put it. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.680 How did it change you as an artist or as 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.000 a person? I think in so many ways. I think 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.400 I would not be released in the type of music 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.280 that I am without it. I think, not in like 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.280 not writing my songs about it, but just yeah, I 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.880 think I've grown a lot as a person, and I 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.120 have probably just like put things into perspective that I 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.480 hadn't before, and also just realized the power of song 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.120 and music and how it can touch people in times 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.280 like this um and how it can be kind of 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.000 that like through line to connect people's experiences. Because I 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.000 feel like I really had, like heavily relied on music 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.640 to get me through quarantine, and I'm sure so many 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.000 other people did, so Yeah, I just definitely realized like 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.480 the weight and power that it holds and just made 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.600 me more excited to get back into it and keep 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.920 putting stuff out. And you took some time off from 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.160 your music career before dropping first time last fall. What 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.360 made you decide to take a bit of a breather. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.920 I think this it was like a few years in 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.079 the making. I feel like I, like two or three 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.560 years ago, I like had this gut feeling of just 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.680 wanting to just take more time to myself and live 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.319 with myself and get to know myself and um get 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:28.840 to know the artists that I want to be a 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.240 little bit more clearly, and also just like live regular 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.000 human experiences that I felt like all my friends were 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.240 living in college and you know, going in and out 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.640 of relationships and friendships and everything. And I feel like 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.920 I just definitely knew that for my development and for 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.840 my music too, for my writing, it was crucial for 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.880 me to have those years um too kind of just 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.600 like funk up and do the wrong thing and explore 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:01.200 and experiment, and um, I just I definitely like knew 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.480 that that was something that I needed, um for development 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.800 and for clarity as a songwriter too, um and for 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.360 my artistry. So UM yeah, I was still I was 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.080 still like touring and releasing music and stuff. It was 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.280 just kind of more. I definitely took more time for 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.920 myself too. I tried to fit that in as much 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.200 as possible. So I'm really happy that I did that. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.120 You said the first time is sort of more like 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.760 a musical rebirth or reintroduction. These sort of hit the 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.240 re restart button in a way. How How so for you? 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.520 I think it was just the first song that I've 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:42.400 released that I felt really really like a kind of 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.240 reflects where I was at the time. And I guess 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.440 my whole journey of like taking time to myself and 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.640 everything has been to get to a point where I 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.040 feel like I am not holding anything back. I'm super 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.600 honest with my music and it feels like me and 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.240 I feel like with the early stuff it was, you know, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:01.920 it was just it was all rushed. It was all 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.240 just kind of like made in this like whirlwind of 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.920 things happening. Hideaway started charting super early on, and I 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.280 had this same team of writers that just got together 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.839 and and helped write the rest of the album, and 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.000 I'm really grateful for that, and I you know, I 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.880 still have such like personal connections to a lot of 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.040 the songs released then. UM, but I also feel like 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.400 I my gut feeling of me needing to take time 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.560 was definitely be like partially because I felt like I 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.840 wanted to, um, just be more in control of my 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.920 writing and what I wanted to say and how I 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.080 wanted to say and what I wanted to sound like 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.960 and everything. So for me, the first time was really 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:45.240 UM was really like the first time that I that 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.200 I thought that UM so many puns in this interview, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.920 whow it. I saw the water in the in the 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.160 visuals for a very like you know, rebirth. What's the 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.720 what's the word for like like baptismal? Yeah, yeah, it 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.440 was UM. Yeah. We we definitely wanted to to symbolize 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.320 rebirth and kind of me falling into it in the 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.400 beginning of music video and then me going throughout this journey, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.760 my subconscious kind of in the back of this truck, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.920 UM pretty much just like having no control over where 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.840 it was going, and then UM gaining that control as 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.120 I want, and then emerging at the ends out of 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.240 the water as like a new person, a new really 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.240 realized person, and Bad Girl kind of continues off of 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.320 that too with the visual UM because it's also kind 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:36.480 of this like subconscious journey at the bar exists in 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.880 this like dreamlike place that we really wanted to come 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.040 across as UM like reflective of my subconscious at the time, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.560 UM just going through the process of discovering my sexuality, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.560 and UM, you know, I saw that girl and then 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.120 I just like all these feelings and emotions started coming 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.920 through me, and I, um, you see me in this 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.880 like very kind of um the lights are crazy and 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.360 there's like five and it's just like this very like weird, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.760 mystical kind of dreamlike place where I'm trying to come 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.840 to terms with my sexuality. And then at the end 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:14.640 of it, I emerged its like fully realized, confident UM 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.400 person and I'm like, I have like my dress on 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.160 and my heels and I do this like runway performance 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.880 because we really wanted to get that across of that 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.920 like arc. So yeah, I think a lot of my 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.560 visuals I've tried. I've tried to carry the sort of 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.000 like rebirth theme into UM for the past two releases. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.920 I guess, and well, I don't know, I don't I 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.720 don't want to say anything about the other So that's 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:50.240 coming up. But yeah, oh that was what I was 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.280 going to ask him. What are you working on now? 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.760 I know a lot of fans are wondering about what's 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.800 next for your next album or I'm working on an 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.680 EP and I'm very excited it. It's gonna be bad 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.000 Girl is gonna be on it, First Time is going 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.119 to be on it, and a few other songs, and 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.160 it just feels like the most confident and proudest I've 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.040 been releasing music, and I just I want to release 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.639 it tomorrow. I just I don't want to wait. I 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.160 want everyone to hear it right now. I'm so excited. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:22.720 Are you able to say roughly when or soon? Yeah? 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.800 I feel like that's been a key word the past 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.560 like two years, where it just like it really has 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.199 no meaning anymore, just soon, But I'm telling you it 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.040 has meaning. I'm telling you it does. It actually is 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.040 coming very soon. Any surprises on it, any any new collaborations, 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.359 any any surprising music choices or anything you're able to share. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.240 I will say it's kind of a mixed bag of 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.560 things that it's it does live in that dance the 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.840 dance space with First Time and Bad Girl, and then 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.000 it kind of carries over into this more intimate um 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.960 stripped down. We have a stripped down kind of acoustic song, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.600 I'll give that away. We have some more kind of 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.560 like alternative leaning, more rock leaning. It kind of plays 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.560 with a bunch of different genres that I've been listening 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.160 to myself. So yeah, I'm really excited and I think 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.680 hopefully we'll have something for everyone. Can't wait to check 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.280 it out there. I was reading some inter of you 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:15.919 gave recently. I'm trying to remember who it was with, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.480 but you were talking about how at some point in 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.120 your in your career you want to experiment with scales 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.240 outside of like Western modes, at Western modalities, how in 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.760 like Eastern scales. It's it's so someday that would be 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:31.920 a really interesting experiment with Yeah, yeah, I think. Well. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.919 I So I have family in India and I've been once, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.400 and I grew up going to Indian brunch every Sunday 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.600 in Pittsburgh, and I just loved watching Bollywood on because 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.800 they would always play like these like full like future 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.919 films on their screens while you're eating brunch, and I 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.879 just loved like I was always just so mesmerized. I 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.320 loved watching it, I loved listening to it. The scales 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.040 are just something like they have notes that don't exist 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.800 in our scale um that they regularly use. And I 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.840 think that that's just so cool and something that I 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.920 would definitely definitely don't know the most about right now 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.679 at this point in my life, but I want to 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.760 and I want to hopefully implement that in their music 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.200 at some point. Kind of dovetails into into my last question. 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.119 We've been asking everybody if you could snap your fingers 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.960 and have everything go back to whatever your definition of 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.119 normal is, say, you know, pre COVID, pre everything. What 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.440 would be the first thing that you would do? Places 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.120 you would go, people you'd hug, restaurants you'd eat at. Well, 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:31.520 I guess a lot of those are opening now. I 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.280 will be the first thing that that you would do. UM. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.600 I would probably travel, I would probably just get out. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.560 I feel like I would just go to like, I 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:43.879 don't know, I've been thinking. I've been thinking a lot 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.439 about Tokyo recently, just randomly, and it's been one of 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.399 it's always been one of my favorite cities, but I 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.800 would love to travel and to maybe go to Tokyo 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.320 also to hug my grandparents. I think that that that's 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.240 something that I definitely haven't done in so long, and 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.000 I want to do as soon as we all get vaccinated. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.159 Thank you so much for your Tom Davis. This is 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.320 such a pleasure. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:16.800 so much. It was great talking to you. 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