Speaker 1: Our wild vegasin consisted mostly of Will and me and
Speaker 1: his wife Sue talking. It was it was us. Easton
Speaker 1: came coming over and hanging out with his wife. Um.
Speaker 1: But other than that, we were at an iHeart kickoff
Speaker 1: party for the I Heart Music Festival here. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: by the time it wound down, it was just a
Speaker 1: three of us pretty much. We're you know, we're big
Speaker 1: partiers in our boys. Do either of you gamble? No? No,
Speaker 1: it was so funny. I you know, I used to
Speaker 1: play like poker and blackjack back in the day, and then, um,
Speaker 1: I recently, I was in Vegas on a road trip
Speaker 1: last year and um, my brother was watching my son
Speaker 1: for a minute, and my wife and I had like
Speaker 1: free time in a casine and we sat down for
Speaker 1: five minutes and I lost forty dollars. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is dumb. Yes, it's just I'm walking away from
Speaker 1: this situation rather just have a drink and talk to you.
Speaker 1: You're You're way more fun than me losing money, so
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated and poorer. Yeah, this is awesome. Like what
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I mean, poker, I get because
Speaker 1: you're actually playing the other people. But but I would
Speaker 1: just rather play at home. The idea of playing like
Speaker 1: in a casino. Order. You went through a poker phase,
Speaker 1: didn't you, Danielle Um. Yeah, it's not necessarily the proudest
Speaker 1: time of my life, made like drive to commerce and
Speaker 1: like I remember you, yeah, well yeah, I was really
Speaker 1: into it. I played at all the l a local casinos.
Speaker 1: I played in multiple different events, and then I used
Speaker 1: to host poker nights at my house. Uh, and would
Speaker 1: play until the sun came up. So would you get
Speaker 1: recognized at these casinos? Yes, yes, yes, of course. Was
Speaker 1: that intimidating for people? I don't know. It's when I
Speaker 1: think it actually was the opposite. People would see me
Speaker 1: and think, uh, oh wow, I'm gonna be able to
Speaker 1: you know, take her for all of her money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife had the same advantage like women. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's changed now, but back when we used
Speaker 1: to play in like two thousand and eight, it was
Speaker 1: still like a weird thing for a woman to be
Speaker 1: playing poke and they would always underestimate her and that
Speaker 1: she would use that to her advantage every time. It
Speaker 1: was so good. Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's great when
Speaker 1: that happens, for sure, And then it's all. It also
Speaker 1: sucks when it doesn't work out, when you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I've got a great hand, and then like on the river,
Speaker 1: you get taken and you're like, now they think now
Speaker 1: that I like played into it. Now they think that
Speaker 1: is true, and then you have to stick around long
Speaker 1: enough to prove them wrong. It just becomes a whole thing.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't live. I mean I would still play,
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. They would definitely still play, and
Speaker 1: I do still play. I like playing. I just have
Speaker 1: a more um like healthy relationship with it now. It
Speaker 1: used to be like my number one favorite thing to do,
Speaker 1: and anytime I could get people together to play, I
Speaker 1: would I would do it. And I used to just
Speaker 1: like watch it also on TV. No, I didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about poker whatsoever, to the point where when people
Speaker 1: were telling me about it, I was literally one of
Speaker 1: the first questions I asked was why are you all
Speaker 1: playing on a river? Like where do you have to go?
Speaker 1: And they're like no, no, no, Like because I, well,
Speaker 1: I hit it on the river. I'm like, that's hip
Speaker 1: the river that you gotta play in. People do play
Speaker 1: on river boats. That is like a thing writer and
Speaker 1: I just had an interesting experience in the elevator on
Speaker 1: the way up. Well, I can't wait to hear this
Speaker 1: story somebody who recognized us. We can Yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure that's what this poor woman the elevator doors opened jo.
Speaker 1: She was holding a giant full cup of Starbucks coffee,
Speaker 1: which I was immediately about to ask her about, because
Speaker 1: you find coffee. I was like, where did you find this?
Speaker 1: And then she walked in and was looking at us
Speaker 1: and let the doors close on her and just dropped
Speaker 1: the coffee all over the elevator and we we were fine,
Speaker 1: but she was like it was just so clear. I
Speaker 1: was watching her face. I was like, she recognized us
Speaker 1: and then like kind of lost control of her body
Speaker 1: for a moment or like forgot where she was. And
Speaker 1: I mean the door slum and she is hip checked
Speaker 1: by the door and and her poor friend is like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And then they have to get in
Speaker 1: the elevator dripping with so she's next to us like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I didn't get you, guys, I didn't.
Speaker 1: There's a puddle of copy on the on the elevator floor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we felt that about Oh my gosh, and then did
Speaker 1: you guys get off on the same floor, did you
Speaker 1: guys like follow them down the hallway to get here
Speaker 1: to the Presidential Like I'm like, she's probably crying right
Speaker 1: now after she was dying for to be alone for
Speaker 1: just two seconds to say to her friend, this is
Speaker 1: the this is the moment of my life. Do you
Speaker 1: have a do you have a favorite getting recognized as
Speaker 1: somebody making a mistake or doing something embarrassing story, Danielle,
Speaker 1: because I feel like this has happened to be a
Speaker 1: bunch of introduced themselves with my name or like you know,
Speaker 1: like just people they don't understand, like their brain, you know,
Speaker 1: short circuits, because they're like a TV person in front
Speaker 1: of me. Like my favorite one that happens fairly regularly
Speaker 1: is high. I just wanted to say, you're a really
Speaker 1: big fan of mine. Just it's always word order. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also, have you guys ever noticed like everybody calls
Speaker 1: it Boys Meet World? You know what else? I get
Speaker 1: sometime to Panga Meets World. I wasn't, but I should.
Speaker 1: I often get. I'm such a fan of yours. You
Speaker 1: stole that show absolutely amazing. What was it like to
Speaker 1: be Corey's best friend? Oh, oh yeah. I get that
Speaker 1: all the time, like you Nope, that wasn't people asked
Speaker 1: me to do. They're they're wrong me really big. Another
Speaker 1: one another one is excuse me, were you on full House?
Speaker 1: I get yeah, yeah, And I think it's just because
Speaker 1: they get the they get Boy Meets World, and to
Speaker 1: them it's they get that trigger of like, oh, Comfort
Speaker 1: TV Friday nights. It must have been full I thought
Speaker 1: you were Candice Cameron Toil like a week ago. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I can understand that. Well. Our guest today is somebody
Speaker 1: we have talked about for a very long time. But
Speaker 1: before I get into our guest today, I'm going to
Speaker 1: say welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fish and
Speaker 1: I'm wilfrid L. Hey everyone, I'm wilfrid L also known
Speaker 1: as a voice behind ron Stoppable. Hey, and I'm Christie
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Speaker 1: And we have teamed up again, but this time as
Speaker 1: the host of I Hear Voices. Have you ever wanted
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Speaker 1: and podcasts you'll love, especially ours. So our guest today
Speaker 1: is somebody we have talked about a lot so far
Speaker 1: in this first season. And I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to assume it's the same for you
Speaker 1: as it is for me. He is such um and
Speaker 1: like he's such a memorable part of these first few
Speaker 1: seasons especially, and he his name is Chris Kayer, Christopher Kier,
Speaker 1: who was our beloved onset dialogue coach for many seasons
Speaker 1: of Boy Meat's World. He started in season one, and
Speaker 1: he also appears a few times on our show. We
Speaker 1: saw him recently in the episode where will was a
Speaker 1: lobster model, of course, saw him in the mall, and
Speaker 1: then we also he He did a lot of voices
Speaker 1: for us on Boy Meets World. Um, so I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to please welcome Chris Kaire. The Willie Walk of
Speaker 1: Christmas has a rod. I'm gonna get to that exactly.
Speaker 1: You guys. I don't know if you know this, but
Speaker 1: Chris Kaire is like he has a Christmas store in Pasadena.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about it. Chris, welcome, all right.
Speaker 1: First have to tell you, guys, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for inviting me, because I was a small
Speaker 1: part of your career on that show, just the first season.
Speaker 1: There were so many people came in after me. But
Speaker 1: I want to know, it really means a lot that
Speaker 1: you thought about me and bring me down the show
Speaker 1: of a huge part of the show. You we're only
Speaker 1: there for the first season, because you seem like you
Speaker 1: were there for so much longer and the reason we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that later. Why when I moved on. It's
Speaker 1: very interesting. But you guys, I can lead the conversation.
Speaker 1: You can't. You know I can talk. Yes, well, we're
Speaker 1: really excited about you being able to talk. I do
Speaker 1: have a question, how did you get the job as
Speaker 1: our dialogue coach? What was that process? How did you
Speaker 1: get to us? That's a great way to start. Okay,
Speaker 1: As some of you know, I am an acting coach.
Speaker 1: I've taught twenty thousand kids of this series of twenty
Speaker 1: years and personally my actings to school literally started in
Speaker 1: my garage in North Hollywood when it first got to
Speaker 1: l a from New York. And one of my students,
Speaker 1: the mother Bobby I remember her, was best friends with
Speaker 1: April Kelly. So he said to me that you show
Speaker 1: come out called the Ben Savage Project. Yeah, okay, but
Speaker 1: I don't like going to parties. I do not. I
Speaker 1: still don't like going to parts, but she's like the
Speaker 1: party I went and I met one April April Kelly
Speaker 1: that you all know April as the co creator of
Speaker 1: boy Me's World. And uh so we hit it off.
Speaker 1: Because you really need to come down and meet our
Speaker 1: director on the lot and they're looking for a dialogue coach,
Speaker 1: which is an acting coach on the set. For those
Speaker 1: that don't know what a dialogue coaches. I help young
Speaker 1: people as well as the adult actors. They have them
Speaker 1: on sets. It was they've been on for decades movies,
Speaker 1: television set, especially when it's uh a youth oriented cast.
Speaker 1: They need a dialogue coach. And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: you green people. You people have never done it before.
Speaker 1: So anyways, at the party I talked to I go
Speaker 1: down and I meet one David Trainer my podcast. So
Speaker 1: I meet David, we talked, we hit it off, and
Speaker 1: wail I became the dialogue coach for the very first
Speaker 1: season A boy meets Wow. That's amazing, which means your
Speaker 1: number one job was miss Lily Nick right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean how old was she she was only we
Speaker 1: got a five year old on the one Morgan And yes, specifically,
Speaker 1: I really was brought on because she was breeding and
Speaker 1: never done anything before, so they wanted me to grrawl
Speaker 1: her and teach her every week. Wow, we have been
Speaker 1: singing your praises now for weeks as we go through
Speaker 1: these episodes, and we talked about it when we when
Speaker 1: we talked about Lily. We've talked about you multiple different times,
Speaker 1: and it's come up that at twenty seven years old,
Speaker 1: you were the youngest ring master for Ringling Brothers. Like,
Speaker 1: how did you? How? What is that story? You have
Speaker 1: the craziest life. I was doing research on you and
Speaker 1: I was like Christmas Store youngest ring Master dialogue. I'd
Speaker 1: like to jump in here because I remember, I remember
Speaker 1: this story that you told me about how you got
Speaker 1: the job, and I'd like to see if I'm right
Speaker 1: that you told me this story. The story will remember
Speaker 1: it exactly, it's gotten bigger. Let me see. Let me
Speaker 1: see if I remember you were home exactly. You were
Speaker 1: a fighter pilot. You just landed a cripple F four.
Speaker 1: I do. I embellished like a hundred million times, but
Speaker 1: I he So, if memory serves it was you heard
Speaker 1: about the audition for the Ringling Brothers, and the reason
Speaker 1: you thought you got it is you were in the
Speaker 1: final audition phase and you were on the microphone and
Speaker 1: gunther Gable Williams actually walked on to the area and
Speaker 1: you referenced him and said, and of course gunther Gable Williams,
Speaker 1: and he saw that you had instantly recognized him, knew
Speaker 1: who he was. You announced that he was there, incorporated
Speaker 1: him essentially into our audition, and that helped you get
Speaker 1: the job. Am I remembering that correctly? One entle was
Speaker 1: the invested animal trainer, he had all the tires, He
Speaker 1: was the guy at Ringing. We don't have enough time
Speaker 1: to cover every chapter in my life, but I am
Speaker 1: the ultimate impresario, showman, entrepreneur you could ever meet. I
Speaker 1: don't when somebody says I can't, That's the reason why
Speaker 1: I do. But yes, indeed, that auditions all of thom
Speaker 1: in the United States, through seven finalists to the greatest
Speaker 1: showner from Chicago Auditions Center ring right to sing and
Speaker 1: announced ladies and gentlemen to the VOLLI in the centering.
Speaker 1: It was in Chicago, and he Gunther was there. He
Speaker 1: Wall had meandered in an incogito. And I acknowledged that
Speaker 1: when I was an out the guns Gunther and lo
Speaker 1: and behold, I'm the national Press. I was the twenty
Speaker 1: seven in the history fifty history of the great shown Earth,
Speaker 1: and the youngest at the time. And after I did
Speaker 1: that to her, of course, I wrote a book autobiography.
Speaker 1: It's a great book. I still have my signed copy.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. But the book is this The entrepreneur in
Speaker 1: me is I started looking something you guys don't know
Speaker 1: called the Yellow Pages, and I looked under publishers, and
Speaker 1: I started calling, and I said I was the youngest
Speaker 1: ring master with the greatest showner. And this editor went,
Speaker 1: tell me, I love the circus. I sold my whole book,
Speaker 1: never written, the book on the idea and some photographs
Speaker 1: of my energy, and here we are at the startup.
Speaker 1: I'm an active performer many many years television, film, uh commercials,
Speaker 1: but that ringmaster credit is probably the most unique and
Speaker 1: most responsible job I've ever had the show business. So
Speaker 1: what was harder wrangling lions or wrangling us? Wrangling Morgan,
Speaker 1: let's put it. Let me tell you a few things
Speaker 1: about your beginnings. Okay, I know you talked about in
Speaker 1: the past, but piece we'll talk about peace in a minute.
Speaker 1: But here's the few things I remember about each of you.
Speaker 1: How's that will have just come from Hartford, Connectic area.
Speaker 1: No one could pronounce fordel number one. But I'm at
Speaker 1: Will who was sixteen, and they're a not a kid
Speaker 1: that hired it for the other for the pilot. We
Speaker 1: all know that story. Anyways, Will was green green I mean,
Speaker 1: and I've used this story many times in my class,
Speaker 1: over and over and over since then. By the way,
Speaker 1: Will thank you. He came to my garage one time
Speaker 1: and talk to my students. How about that is that's
Speaker 1: such a will thing to do. You taught me how
Speaker 1: to play Canasta? Well, oh, my Atlanta, whether the will,
Speaker 1: there's the ways, And I can't believe. I tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I don't that. I don't. So Will is
Speaker 1: on the set and he is being green this. I
Speaker 1: tell this over and over because it happens to all
Speaker 1: my actors who are starting out in my past. They
Speaker 1: tend to use the words I mean, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you something. I had my script
Speaker 1: and I went out there and taping night. I go Will,
Speaker 1: and I circle in my script eight ten, twenty times,
Speaker 1: because I really I did. I didn't think yes Will,
Speaker 1: I mean Well. I had to get in that habit
Speaker 1: of what I means. But you mean everything you say
Speaker 1: unless it's written in the script. You mean everything you say.
Speaker 1: But the Green people tell you what I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean. It buys them times for this month that one.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but very quickly. Michael Jacobs at one
Speaker 1: point wrote it into the script, wrote, I mean and
Speaker 1: I cut it and he's like, really, you say I
Speaker 1: mean nineties? Three times I write cut it out. Will
Speaker 1: do you remember that I do? I mean yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean er yeah, Spider, Mr Cool laid back rider all
Speaker 1: the time. The sound guy with the boom, he called
Speaker 1: me over, he's sitting on that brain another way kid
Speaker 1: to speak. You gotta tell that kid to speak up.
Speaker 1: I did not. You know, wider Is comes from film
Speaker 1: and very laid back kind of dude. He did some
Speaker 1: stage and God roach and all of those things. But
Speaker 1: what do you except to me? When I said that
Speaker 1: to him? You're sitting in the cafeteria, you remember, he
Speaker 1: looked up and he goes, I just don't want to
Speaker 1: be fake. I want to come on from Yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: this is what do you re real? That is so funny?
Speaker 1: I was, yes, I was definitely like intentionally like mumbling
Speaker 1: makes it really was the brand noticed especially in the
Speaker 1: Fugitive episode. Then you were I mean you were supposed
Speaker 1: to because it was more dramatic, but I really noticed
Speaker 1: that you were talking very loud. I just want to
Speaker 1: do I feel like I'm being fake. Alright, that's funny. Alright,
Speaker 1: are you wearing makeup? Right now? Did somebody do your hair?
Speaker 1: Did you just wander in the air? You put on wordrobe?
Speaker 1: We're what, we're your fake cafeteria for Christ's say, kids
Speaker 1: speak up. I would talk about Danielle so oh no,
Speaker 1: I've in the other episodes. How you told I just
Speaker 1: got the part, etcetera. Um, we did have a girl
Speaker 1: that they had cast and David Trainer and I we
Speaker 1: talked about we did it the paper read on a
Speaker 1: table read for everyone that does know you sit around
Speaker 1: the table every week just before you start to put
Speaker 1: on the feet and going to the studio U sound
Speaker 1: stage and set up set the blocking each set. But
Speaker 1: this girl had attitude and she wasn't really right for
Speaker 1: the part. But there was one line which she had
Speaker 1: to be a flower child. As we know, Panga is
Speaker 1: one episode she was gonna be in, but she looked
Speaker 1: over it. When she left her left lins went. She
Speaker 1: put this piece items right that sticks out to me
Speaker 1: and David capt She just wanted her to say peace. Well,
Speaker 1: David tell me we gotta get rid of that. So anyways,
Speaker 1: that's how we uh we replaced her butt. Here's the story,
Speaker 1: daniel Her mother told me, we almost didn't go that
Speaker 1: audition because just so you know, and you said an
Speaker 1: earlier episode, Danielle and Marl had two lines in the
Speaker 1: show Small Little Park. Her they lived in thousand Notes.
Speaker 1: We just didn't want to drive down for two lines.
Speaker 1: I looked at her, I said, any chance you get
Speaker 1: to be on a set. You learned your lesson, didn't you,
Speaker 1: because I'll end up being eight years isn't amazing? She
Speaker 1: won't go, right, Danielle, Yeah, I don't. I don't remember that,
Speaker 1: but that I mean, I know that I had done
Speaker 1: the audition for Topanga just either the day before or
Speaker 1: two days before, and we were living in Calabasas at
Speaker 1: the time, and I don't remember where the audition was,
Speaker 1: but I know that we spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: in traffic to get there. So when I didn't get
Speaker 1: the audition for Topanga and then the next day, they
Speaker 1: were like, can you come back out to audition again?
Speaker 1: And this time it's for two lines? I think my
Speaker 1: mom and I were like, oh my gosh again in
Speaker 1: the car, but we did it, thankfully. I heard that
Speaker 1: It was great when it was just if I didn't
Speaker 1: know some of that, it was great. It must have
Speaker 1: been Disney, right, it must have been Disney. It must
Speaker 1: have been the Disney lot is where you would have audition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they filmed just those listeners. No, they actually filmed scenes
Speaker 1: of Mary Poppins on the sound stage. The film on
Speaker 1: the sound stage. Because one of our writers, Jeffrey Sherman,
Speaker 1: we all love. His father was Robert Sherman, who wrote
Speaker 1: the songs the Very Poppins, and his father came one
Speaker 1: day of the stet and I had my book all
Speaker 1: signed for him because I was like an idol of
Speaker 1: the Sherman brothers. And he looked around. He goes, you
Speaker 1: know this sound stage film Poppins, and my eyes got
Speaker 1: so big. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, it was that.
Speaker 1: That's their big film stage. Stage two was their big
Speaker 1: film stage. All the big stuff they would do. The commissary.
Speaker 1: We have a little commissary before we remodeled it. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of traditional So on the set there
Speaker 1: I'm as the dialogue coach was helping out and it
Speaker 1: was the first episode and Michael Jacobs, the producer, says,
Speaker 1: get anti, my real name is Christopher Anti Chaire. It's
Speaker 1: German like fredl all right, and uh, they couldn't pronounce it,
Speaker 1: so David said, I said, just say Chris Kier. I
Speaker 1: made it up on the spot. It was the best
Speaker 1: thing I did when I got to Hollywood that I
Speaker 1: said Chris kier As, I said, said Chris Kier. Michael
Speaker 1: Jacobs would say it. Then David said, they all remembered it.
Speaker 1: Isn't amazing. Became on the first episode of boy Me's
Speaker 1: World on the set. You were named on the show.
Speaker 1: That's so great, I know, isn't that cool. It's also
Speaker 1: very similar to Chris Kringle, which I'd like to get into.
Speaker 1: You have a hollow store and very interesting see behind
Speaker 1: you Halloween. Okay, so you guys so much you can
Speaker 1: talk about. I want to do a movie that's a
Speaker 1: war between a Halloween story and a Christmas story. That's
Speaker 1: actually a great, great idea. And they brought up a
Speaker 1: Christmas store. Here's the thing. I have a habit and
Speaker 1: addiction like everything, and this is a good one because
Speaker 1: I collect handblown more ornaments from the Germany and Italy
Speaker 1: and around the world, pulling and I just got back
Speaker 1: from a three week buying trip in Prague and Italy,
Speaker 1: Germany and Austin, so over there, and I bring these
Speaker 1: treasures back to California. So what I did is as
Speaker 1: as I'm growing, I get in twelve trees in my house.
Speaker 1: I had offset the habit. Well, I bought a building
Speaker 1: in Burbank, California, and I had my acting school, and
Speaker 1: I had a not mine, but a gift shop. I
Speaker 1: read it out to the other side of the building. Well,
Speaker 1: she left in the night, and I thought, what am
Speaker 1: I gonna do? I went to my storage unit. I
Speaker 1: put half of stuff in that store and it went
Speaker 1: through the roof. So I was doing my acting classes
Speaker 1: and running a store to pay the rent. And then
Speaker 1: it grew from there, and it grew. But unfortunately, I
Speaker 1: stupidly the biggest mistake in my life. I killed myself
Speaker 1: all the time about it. I sold the building. Year.
Speaker 1: I have it for a location for the Christopher Chire's
Speaker 1: Christmas Corner. This year. It's ninety nine East Colorado in Pasadena.
Speaker 1: But here's the fascinating thing. Everybody's love this, and you
Speaker 1: all love this. So one of your tech this comes
Speaker 1: up every year in my store. One of your crew
Speaker 1: years later, gave me this, and it's in the store
Speaker 1: every year, and I tell the story. It is the
Speaker 1: episode where Will goes the mall to be Santa. This
Speaker 1: is about that. One of your remember, gave me that
Speaker 1: they signed in the back Boy Meets World, And so
Speaker 1: I haven't in the store hanging every year somewhere in
Speaker 1: the store, and I tell the story. And it's not
Speaker 1: for sale. It's not for sale. It's not for sale,
Speaker 1: but it's from So that's how I'm talking about. And
Speaker 1: I'm open just till out. I opened it last week.
Speaker 1: Behind me its thousands of thousands of treasures and there's
Speaker 1: tons more in the storage room. I did this with
Speaker 1: one friend in fifteen days, three weeks ago. This was empty.
Speaker 1: We did it and four heat that on a fourtement.
Speaker 1: We were so hot and here it was so hot.
Speaker 1: Arrival Christmas Shop right across the street. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Chris, what are some of your favorite
Speaker 1: onset memories? Okay, this is great. So when we started
Speaker 1: the show, Bill had come from tape. He did the stage.
Speaker 1: Bill Daniels to the stage and he came from tell
Speaker 1: the tape show, I mean not tape shows, film shows,
Speaker 1: singular camera shows, and these writers were putting him through
Speaker 1: the worst by baking flowery language about his flowers, the
Speaker 1: arya bouga filia, and it was just so hard. I
Speaker 1: couldn't remember. It's like mamalizing. He got grocery list in Greek.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. And I've always felt sorry for him,
Speaker 1: so pure enough. The first episode he dealt there blooming,
Speaker 1: the grooming the flowers, and he goes up and for
Speaker 1: those that don't know what goes up and for out
Speaker 1: his line. And I felt so vulnerable, and he felt vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and the audience is there and just like got real quiet.
Speaker 1: I walked over and just showing the line script and
Speaker 1: we move done. Then after I'll never forget this. After
Speaker 1: the show, he sat there on that set and he
Speaker 1: looked at me as I'll just never get used to
Speaker 1: pour camera. I'm just used. And I felt so bad
Speaker 1: for Bill. They lightened it up. They lighted all that
Speaker 1: dialogue out because it was just so heavy. Bill has
Speaker 1: a great memory and he's a pro. It was just
Speaker 1: that first episode when they laid on all of these adjectives.
Speaker 1: It was a list of you know, alliteration that come on.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do it, you know, in the circus,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. So that was one of them. Remember,
Speaker 1: and I love Bill Daniels, and and is he will
Speaker 1: he come? The thing that's incredible is that he can
Speaker 1: coming from film. You do get more time with your
Speaker 1: dialogue and you can work on all the more. But
Speaker 1: he was also coming from a medical show where gonna
Speaker 1: talk about dialogue that you're gonna have to re member.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was memorizing all these medical speech. But
Speaker 1: it's not or or on the same sitcoms those I
Speaker 1: don't know what sitcoms, you have to stay the line
Speaker 1: in order, and you sometimes most of the time you
Speaker 1: filmed in order. In film shows you don't. And Michel
Speaker 1: always changed it on the set. In the middle of
Speaker 1: this year, he come in, now, we're not doing this scene.
Speaker 1: We're not doing this. I'm telling you. For those that
Speaker 1: don't know, you talk this on episodes. You start with
Speaker 1: one script on Monday, and by the time you tape
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and every day it's a different colored page,
Speaker 1: so you know the new pages that are on there.
Speaker 1: So by we get to tape night and there we
Speaker 1: are on tape their hand and pages these kids in
Speaker 1: in in the makeup. Oh, here's the new line line.
Speaker 1: Then we get on the set, you guys, literally in
Speaker 1: front of studio audience. They walk over, they run over,
Speaker 1: will say this, insteps say this is They're changing lines
Speaker 1: in front of a studio audience. So that's the fascinating thing.
Speaker 1: But let's go talk about Morgan. Those are the want
Speaker 1: to know about Morgan. You all know the Morgan story.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can bauld you guys.
Speaker 1: I heard you allude to it with David Trainer. But
Speaker 1: let's go to a Morgan story. They hired this young
Speaker 1: actress five and shoote as a But when I say cute,
Speaker 1: you guys watch their first the first season. She's durable, vocable.
Speaker 1: I guess it's hot behind the Bronco League. She was
Speaker 1: so cute. We're on this set and it takes me
Speaker 1: five days to make sure she hits her marks. For
Speaker 1: those listening, that means moved the right place for the camera,
Speaker 1: so we put an XX on there, or I say
Speaker 1: put your hand. My real strip was put your hand
Speaker 1: on the couch, on the end of the couch. That
Speaker 1: always got her right where she belonged. Well, of course, invariably,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe third third episode. I mean, she
Speaker 1: was belligerent to she didn't really want to be there,
Speaker 1: just so you know, and Mother's like, you know, agree
Speaker 1: and okay, like bruk assaults mom almost like yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll do it for you, and she want
Speaker 1: to make her happy. And uh, Michael, tell somebody to
Speaker 1: run over to me and say get her to do this.
Speaker 1: I said, give me a minute here. Five days that
Speaker 1: took me just to get this dialogue set well, but
Speaker 1: we want to change me want this, I said, give
Speaker 1: me a minute, but the studio audience is there. So
Speaker 1: I got down on my knees and from the couch.
Speaker 1: She's sitting on the couch, I said, Lily, they want
Speaker 1: you to Before I said they want you to do this,
Speaker 1: she took her hand and she slapped my face in
Speaker 1: front of the studio auto. All that just came back
Speaker 1: to me. Jeff's seron Surman still breaks it up. Every
Speaker 1: time I see him. He brings it up or talk
Speaker 1: to him. But I was like, that was the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end. I mean, definitely, even though she was
Speaker 1: great the shows, like the most child actor moment ever,
Speaker 1: right like in front of an audience slapping somebody giving
Speaker 1: you a note. Ye, But I got her to do it.
Speaker 1: But the reason I left after the first season was
Speaker 1: I waited. It was July and the first season we're
Speaker 1: about to get ready to last week July, and I
Speaker 1: get a call from Lovely Arlene Grace and our producer,
Speaker 1: and Arlen said, unfortunately, and I know how television works,
Speaker 1: we don't have the Baiolo coach in the budget. So
Speaker 1: I was the first to go how it works at
Speaker 1: you guys, there's raises give the second year, and those
Speaker 1: stars get a lot more than I did. They raised
Speaker 1: the money and as they spread it around to the crew,
Speaker 1: so mine was the most money money they could use
Speaker 1: at that time. It's expendable money. I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: how he lost the job, and that's why I didn't
Speaker 1: go back. But our dear David Trader got me on
Speaker 1: Grace under Fire with Dylan Pulse Trader Um maybe this
Speaker 1: time with Bett Betty White. And also he also got
Speaker 1: me on that seventies show. I was the one who
Speaker 1: taught Um Simpson just Simpson to act. He called me
Speaker 1: in told past and you gotta brings the Adams was
Speaker 1: the casting. You gotta ring Chris Kyer and to get
Speaker 1: her to act, and we got already by bye. You
Speaker 1: know how I had a lot of people like Jim
Speaker 1: Abbott and episodes appointments for not acting. They bring on,
Speaker 1: but I had to teach them to act quickly. So
Speaker 1: I gave my little technique to get there. Somebody else.
Speaker 1: You were an acting coach for Anton Yelchin. Really Anton
Speaker 1: yell Shin. I've got Ammon's night through the years, all
Speaker 1: these wonderful stars and Anton at twenty seven years old,
Speaker 1: I mean Anton when here's the break story. He came
Speaker 1: to me. He was eight years old, I believe, and
Speaker 1: for the first six months he looked down at his shoes.
Speaker 1: He couldn't look up. He was so scared and shocked.
Speaker 1: So I in my classes, I'll take on the underdog,
Speaker 1: just to My classes are good for confidence building too,
Speaker 1: because I have odd come back to me over the years.
Speaker 1: They have kids now and they tell me your classes
Speaker 1: taught me to be unique. It was okay to be
Speaker 1: myself because I would get in, but when anybody picked
Speaker 1: on somebody else for being shy like that, I was
Speaker 1: very shy, I believe, not at his age. Believe it
Speaker 1: or not. When I had the struggled puppetry and show business,
Speaker 1: I was fine. But he got the lead in a
Speaker 1: movie called Hearts in Atlantis, and he was chosen by
Speaker 1: Anthony Hoping that role. I'm leaders. I mean, just so
Speaker 1: you know. And Anton Yellston and many celebrities were taught
Speaker 1: in my garage in North Hollywood. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: the building you're in, That's where I taught. And Anton
Speaker 1: came about a year and a half later at the
Speaker 1: film came out and he brought me the big poster
Speaker 1: with his mother, Hearts Atlantis, and on the poster he wrote,
Speaker 1: UH to Chris, thank you for let me see something
Speaker 1: other than my shoes. But a little Anton passed away
Speaker 1: around twenty seven years old. It was a sad story.
Speaker 1: But his car unfortunately one late night he was going
Speaker 1: to his UH rock practice and I heard it on
Speaker 1: the news and I called. Everybody was just devastating. But
Speaker 1: Anton Yellaston was a wonder. But he went on to
Speaker 1: he played check off and in the such a he
Speaker 1: had he had Star Trek at the time. He had
Speaker 1: Star Trek and terminated in theaters at the same time.
Speaker 1: It was like you invited me to the I want
Speaker 1: to see his his UH his site over Hollywood Forever
Speaker 1: and Hollywood. I live in Hollywood and there's just I
Speaker 1: go once the while to see him there. They have
Speaker 1: this big giant bronze statue of him right over his market,
Speaker 1: so it was beautiful. They invited me to the funeral
Speaker 1: and also to that which was a touching story. So yes,
Speaker 1: Anton was one of my one of my prize kids
Speaker 1: that I really enjoyed working. Now, if they're if there
Speaker 1: are people who are listening who are thinking about getting
Speaker 1: their kids into the entertainment industry, what is your best
Speaker 1: advice for parents and what's your best advice for the kids. Well,
Speaker 1: the industry has changed a lot since the nineties when
Speaker 1: we were working, and when you were working, we would
Speaker 1: have to go like Danielle and all of you would
Speaker 1: go to an audition trak an hour and a half
Speaker 1: in traffic. Well, since COVID, it's all gone to zooming
Speaker 1: as we're doing now, so the kids don't get the
Speaker 1: one on one now. Just in the last year, I
Speaker 1: started doing that on UH in person as well as online.
Speaker 1: I had learned the whole animal doing zooming teaching online,
Speaker 1: but I like to teach in person Proba his reasons
Speaker 1: my energy and the kids because there's a different animal
Speaker 1: when you're with the other person. So acting classes are
Speaker 1: the first start, and then you have to fund an
Speaker 1: agent or a manager. But you have to first ask
Speaker 1: does your child really want to do this? Because I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times during the decades I've
Speaker 1: told the parents they don't really want to be Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: they don't know. They don't try football, try wrestling, tribe art,
Speaker 1: whatever is sewing. But they don't they say, do we
Speaker 1: all know? They didn't want to be there, just like
Speaker 1: they didn't want to hear at that age they wanted
Speaker 1: it was the parents wanted them to do it. So
Speaker 1: I have a lot of zooming classes, still in person classes,
Speaker 1: but zooming from all of the country now a lot
Speaker 1: of kids. But that's the first start, is to get
Speaker 1: them trained and though exactly what to do because the
Speaker 1: agents want these kids ready to go on auditions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the the the idea of being in a show
Speaker 1: that is mortalized. You guys, when you see yourselves young
Speaker 1: and your people identify you with those roles they grew
Speaker 1: up with, you get my store I mentioned meets world.
Speaker 1: You know who works from me here Kathy g and
Speaker 1: Ggoria right here next time. So the episode will goes
Speaker 1: to the mall with with that Kathy Ireland to be
Speaker 1: the model or just model falt statue was and he
Speaker 1: wants to be a model or will they have and
Speaker 1: they tried to sign up for modey. Well you hear
Speaker 1: this voice in the background. You want to be a model,
Speaker 1: all you have to do is doc Hilary the lobster,
Speaker 1: the giant tub of butter. And that was my boy. Yes,
Speaker 1: I got a little like at Perk, a little extra
Speaker 1: pay for that. But in rehearsal they had a moment
Speaker 1: in the script that said, uh, shopper walks by and
Speaker 1: looks at Will and Will have online Eric Elin and says,
Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Right? And so I I
Speaker 1: was doing rehearsal because they needed somebody and I walked
Speaker 1: by this with my long hair. I was almost like
Speaker 1: a shagm ting I'm talking about because I'm staring. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is what are you looking at it? And I
Speaker 1: go So Michael Jacobs wants me to stay in in
Speaker 1: the episode we saw recently, there's Chris and so everyone
Speaker 1: knows Kathy Gan Grigorio, who was mentioned that works in
Speaker 1: your store, is our script supervisor, was our script supervisor
Speaker 1: for Boy Meets World and then and then was also
Speaker 1: the script supervisor for Girl Meats World every episode. I
Speaker 1: mean she was Kathew. We love Kathy, we love her.
Speaker 1: I love her. That's why I can't touch all these years.
Speaker 1: But she lives right here near my house and past
Speaker 1: store in Pasadena. But last year we're working in the store,
Speaker 1: Kathin are there. Who walks in? But Rusty Russell walks
Speaker 1: the father You looked at both of us. You didn't
Speaker 1: quite understand what's going on here. And he walks into
Speaker 1: Christmas store. But he did say that in Christopher Caire's
Speaker 1: Christmas Corner, so I think he Well, that's the Rusty
Speaker 1: fans for that. Rusty just finds Christmas stores all across
Speaker 1: the world and wanders in and sometimes we're safe for
Speaker 1: hours or days. They have to call people to remove him.
Speaker 1: Big Christmas store guy, Rusty. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know that. Now, Chris, you are obviously very busy. So
Speaker 1: how when was the last time you watched Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World like you have? Have you ever sat down and
Speaker 1: just like rewatched it? Picked up I'm still CD kind
Speaker 1: of person. I picked up all the DVDs of the
Speaker 1: entire first season. I haven't watched it. I've watched it
Speaker 1: maybe four years ago, a few of the first that
Speaker 1: it was such a great time in my life. But
Speaker 1: you are like you. I'm a busy person, and I
Speaker 1: mean I think the Boy Meets World. It was my
Speaker 1: college for television television. When paper said we go to
Speaker 1: the table on Monday. I don't know what's the table? Man?
Speaker 1: I was learning was an acting coach. I wasn't on
Speaker 1: the set, so I learned. I was paid to learn
Speaker 1: on the set of how Sitcom's running. For those that
Speaker 1: know it, it really runs almost like a place the
Speaker 1: closest nine to five job you'll get in show business,
Speaker 1: you know. And it was very interesting, so as I
Speaker 1: as I did Boy Meets when I watched it, and
Speaker 1: those that don't know, I was an actor and I
Speaker 1: am an actor. I have a performer. And after that
Speaker 1: I got so much confidence through that show that myself
Speaker 1: I was Bookie right up that an episode of Quantum
Speaker 1: Leap right after that. I did never sign build the
Speaker 1: Gym Gymnast where they need to remaster that, but I'm
Speaker 1: known as the youngest and look alike I am. They
Speaker 1: call a Dick Van Dyck alike. So one of my
Speaker 1: one of my auditions on my agent, I a lesser soul.
Speaker 1: Risk I have I got an audation for you. I
Speaker 1: got it. They're looking for Dick van doc in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty four as cheat Cheety Bang Bang. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: So I went down running the custom around from his studio,
Speaker 1: put a little gray in my hair and I looked
Speaker 1: in the mirror wand I couldn't leave it like Dick
Speaker 1: Van Dyke. So I went an audition. Next thing I know,
Speaker 1: you had to have a passport, you had to have this.
Speaker 1: They were whisked me off to Australia for eleven days.
Speaker 1: They flew the actual car from the movie and I
Speaker 1: got to drive the car from Chitty Cheety Bang Bang.
Speaker 1: And in this concial advert it was an advertisement for
Speaker 1: a d v l A, which is a department of
Speaker 1: vehicles in England. If you don't pay your registration like
Speaker 1: you do here, they take a picture of your license plate,
Speaker 1: get the your car gets booted. Were the most famous
Speaker 1: cars Chi Bay and in the commercial I'm trying to
Speaker 1: take off and the car gets booted and we're trying
Speaker 1: to fly away on YouTube on YouTube, so wait you did,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know sign fell backward and forward. You
Speaker 1: did the episode of the Gymnast. Yes, when he's up
Speaker 1: on the top Greemaster, Ladies and gentlemen, the flying amazing, okay,
Speaker 1: gymnas the adult stone you also, if memory served, I
Speaker 1: think while we were doing Boy Me Tworld, you were
Speaker 1: almost Waldo. Almost I was Waldo, but you're seeing the
Speaker 1: feature in the feature film as in wear Waldo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you I was looking like that. I had auditioned
Speaker 1: for another job and I played wall to all of
Speaker 1: the country appearing and I was signed to do it.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, hold him we found him there passed this.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry. What were you doing as well?
Speaker 1: Day I saw the trade papers like I did the
Speaker 1: remaster job. They were looking for a wal Though look alike.
Speaker 1: So I went and got a striped shirt the glasses on,
Speaker 1: and I walked an audition and they needed a wal
Speaker 1: Though and at the time I was really skinny, like
Speaker 1: when you guys have a phone. And I got the job.
Speaker 1: Then they cast me as Waldo in the feature film,
Speaker 1: which moment, which which film was it? It was never
Speaker 1: the pan pass it and there's Waldo's sitting on the
Speaker 1: guy that did it was but he was a friend
Speaker 1: of But here's the part I did get. So after
Speaker 1: I did my chech band Bang, I was lucky enough
Speaker 1: to get the video from my audition from the Cassie
Speaker 1: director and they were looking for a Dick Van di
Speaker 1: canect and a movie called Saving Mr. Bank. Chris Clark
Speaker 1: gets in there auditions and I played in the feature
Speaker 1: film when they have Julie Andrews Dick Van at the
Speaker 1: red carpet of the opening in front of Man's shines Steter.
Speaker 1: We shot a five minutes from house, late at night.
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was there and just shaking his head. He
Speaker 1: was just feels like it was yesterday, fifty years ago
Speaker 1: and we're sitting here and you looked like Dick Vanda.
Speaker 1: It was just it was chilled for all of a
Speaker 1: sudden set. So Saving Mr Banks was the other one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do. You have the most interesting careers ever. As
Speaker 1: you're sitting there surrounded by Christmas, it's so great, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I'll do anything, you know what I started
Speaker 1: to as a kid. I was shy, so I started
Speaker 1: worked with puppets and I became a puppeteer At twelve
Speaker 1: years old. I put an ad in the paper and
Speaker 1: for seventy five dollars you could pick me up at
Speaker 1: your station wagon and I would entertain her birthday parties,
Speaker 1: father daughter, Baker, and I booked myself. I may, I
Speaker 1: booked all the time. What kid could do that? Now
Speaker 1: you can't be picked up by strangers in a car
Speaker 1: for the party. But that was my entrepreneurial state back then.
Speaker 1: And then there's so many things that in my mind.
Speaker 1: When I get an idea, I'm a doer, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is. And I hate when people say, oh,
Speaker 1: that will never work. I can't stand there so un
Speaker 1: last the last ten years, I've been directing musicals all
Speaker 1: over the world, all over the country, and also starring
Speaker 1: as Captain Hook and Peter Pan's my my go to role,
Speaker 1: and the show that I directed seven times now, So
Speaker 1: I think I've been doing my things, still teaching. I
Speaker 1: just think that anybody out there, when you think of
Speaker 1: that idea, that little morsel, the germ of an idea,
Speaker 1: do it. I had this great idea for a TV
Speaker 1: pilot called Master Motive, and this is the way before
Speaker 1: its computers just come out. But this little boy comes
Speaker 1: in and he has a new video game. He pops
Speaker 1: it in and he spills his jews on the Internet
Speaker 1: on the computer pad, and it sucks him into the
Speaker 1: world of Master Motive. And I played Master Modem very
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka. Well, I did this because I had just
Speaker 1: done a serious of leading a series called Boint Barnyard Place,
Speaker 1: and I knew the crew and I knewhere was filmed it.
Speaker 1: So I spent a hundred thousand dollars with somebody else
Speaker 1: going in and we filmed this, this this wonderful pilot. Well,
Speaker 1: I've taken to NAPY convention to try to get booked
Speaker 1: and it was really good. David Trayner taught me well
Speaker 1: in direction and shots and everything, and we got Lynn
Speaker 1: McCracken to come in and Captain Jim Gloria. They were
Speaker 1: doing our personal did the shots so and those I
Speaker 1: don't know. Lind was a stage manager on. Yeah. So anyways,
Speaker 1: boy me's role, I can't tell you who it was,
Speaker 1: but there was a celebrity's father who had taken the
Speaker 1: idea decided to do a film on it still the
Speaker 1: idea and the kid that I cast in the lead.
Speaker 1: I founded them all. They had auditions. They literally cast
Speaker 1: the same board. Oh come on hello. I had a lawyer.
Speaker 1: We went into it. My partner she was very wealthy
Speaker 1: and she did not want to go through the litigation.
Speaker 1: So we had to fold because we didn't have the
Speaker 1: money that they had. She had a lot, but I
Speaker 1: said no, so we folded. So that's the story. But
Speaker 1: more of the stories the film was never released. But
Speaker 1: my unfortunately master modem, which was I was the keeper
Speaker 1: of the keys. Every week we would log onto a
Speaker 1: new episode. He would travel to a new place, we
Speaker 1: take a key, put it in, we traveled someplace else
Speaker 1: it was and I was really wonk. It was really
Speaker 1: was this madman trying to get the kid home. This
Speaker 1: whole thing was home. So that's what I've been doing.
Speaker 1: I just I just do I do. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Where can people find you? Because like you said,
Speaker 1: I know you like to do acting. This is in person.
Speaker 1: It's a totally different thing when you're able to be
Speaker 1: in person. But I'm sure there are people all across
Speaker 1: the country and across the world who would love to
Speaker 1: take an acting class with you. Where can people find you,
Speaker 1: reach out to you, try to get your help any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Well, Danielle, just recently, my two months ago,
Speaker 1: I had a girl from New York in my zoom
Speaker 1: class and she hadn't heard me on another podcast and
Speaker 1: I'm not really in tune to the internet and all
Speaker 1: of the podcasting it, but she had heard about my
Speaker 1: classes on a podcast. So what I do is I
Speaker 1: not only teach confidence, but teach on camera commercial technique
Speaker 1: as well as UH technique for television and film. And
Speaker 1: what it is is my school is very exclusive and
Speaker 1: I teach all the technique I've learned through the years.
Speaker 1: And to get in touch with me, it's www Chris
Speaker 1: Kire dot com, k R I s K y e
Speaker 1: R Chris Kire dot com. And then they could just
Speaker 1: get from there and email me and let me know
Speaker 1: that they're interested in classes. And again, I have kids
Speaker 1: from all over the country. My class this afternoon and
Speaker 1: it will be ten kids from around the United States.
Speaker 1: Not interesting? Are we just start there? So to get
Speaker 1: in touch with me for the class, But that's the
Speaker 1: best way to do, go to the website and where
Speaker 1: is your Christmas store right now? Okay, So it's pop up,
Speaker 1: as I said, different year every year, and uh different
Speaker 1: places every year. And this is on the corner of
Speaker 1: Altadena in Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena, East Pasadena, and it's
Speaker 1: uh at empty space. And it's been harder and harder
Speaker 1: than the first month of August. First of August, I
Speaker 1: first today of August, I traveled city and burbank in
Speaker 1: the heat, walking behind Ally's trying to get numbers. Brochers
Speaker 1: won't call me back. I have to be pushy to
Speaker 1: get to a landlord to give me that four month lease.
Speaker 1: That's so this worked out, preeb. Still, I had no
Speaker 1: place this year, and all these things I just bought
Speaker 1: back from Europe. I was in trouble and my landlord
Speaker 1: from last year put me in touch with this and
Speaker 1: here we are. So the store is East Colorado in Pasadena,
Speaker 1: and I don't ship and I'm not online. People. You
Speaker 1: have to get the treasures in person. I then wiped
Speaker 1: out all this stuff to see the people. Yes, Jensen,
Speaker 1: Jensen and I are gonna bring our kids and we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna come in and we're gonna buy stuff.
Speaker 1: Will writer, if you guys want to make a little
Speaker 1: road trip out because I think this will be my
Speaker 1: last year because it's been so difficult. I've been doing
Speaker 1: this since two thousand and eight, and because it was
Speaker 1: stressed out, I can't find the four months least anymore.
Speaker 1: So I have to come in definitely my last year.
Speaker 1: Can you can I ask you? Can? I ask a
Speaker 1: personal question? Are you wearing Christmas pants? Because that would
Speaker 1: be awesome if you were. No. I got my top
Speaker 1: hat which I wear the store every day. We're gonna
Speaker 1: put on where's your top hat? People say to me,
Speaker 1: Pop had the greatest show on Earth? All these rules
Speaker 1: that I wear a top hat, but I have a
Speaker 1: shirt on, and I seldom in the store. I have shirts.
Speaker 1: Of course, to the store when people want the shirts
Speaker 1: that I'm wearing, they bought those kind of shirts. I
Speaker 1: have those two. My last question for you, and I
Speaker 1: think you're the perfect person to answer this. What is
Speaker 1: the secret to being happy? Okay? This is what I
Speaker 1: tell when I lecture is my class and everything. This
Speaker 1: is me carefully everybody. This is the most insightful thing
Speaker 1: you can know. And I know this from experience. I'll
Speaker 1: be thirty nine in May that I just um, I
Speaker 1: just know that this is important. No, this is serious.
Speaker 1: People say you're thirty nine on nice and not yet,
Speaker 1: not till May. Every year my friends on Facebook they say, oh,
Speaker 1: you're thirty nine, and I said, don't push on. Not
Speaker 1: thirty nine yet. So the thing is, this is what
Speaker 1: I say, and this is what makes one happy. And
Speaker 1: I have the I have the downs as much as
Speaker 1: the adversity, as much as everybody out there. But my
Speaker 1: best friend passed away about seven years ago with a
Speaker 1: lot of regrets. He didn't he was the most masterful writer.
Speaker 1: He wrote the music to many things, my Master Modem show.
Speaker 1: And he sat there on his bed and he had
Speaker 1: all these regrets. And I looked at him. I thought, Michael,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the remaster with the great shown had
Speaker 1: you not been my mentor and taught me in the
Speaker 1: first class I did at eighteen years old, my first show.
Speaker 1: But the inside is this, You go for every darn
Speaker 1: dream you have, every one of them. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: all come true. Not all of them will come to
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they won't. But having gone for them
Speaker 1: is what's gonna leave you the most fulfilled person in
Speaker 1: the world. Because I have had riches beyond, because I
Speaker 1: have pursued everything, I have no regrets. If I want
Speaker 1: the full quarter ice cream, I eat it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying you literally and things you're doing life. If you're
Speaker 1: going for something, there's a satisfaction. But having gone for
Speaker 1: master motive, even though I lost tons of money and fly,
Speaker 1: I'm so satisfied that I did it. So all I
Speaker 1: can say is, when the opportunity comes, or you come
Speaker 1: up with an idea, do it. Just remember this. A
Speaker 1: dream is just a dream until you make it a reality.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's what keeps me going and very And
Speaker 1: I've never tried a cup of coffee. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: me on coffee. I've never tried to cigarette in my life,
Speaker 1: no drugs. This is natural energy, and my energy has
Speaker 1: got me everything I need. If you do your passion
Speaker 1: and go for your passion with sincere energy, you will
Speaker 1: be the happiest person on this planet. That's amazing. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: my passion was caffeine and cigarettes. We all followed the dream,
Speaker 1: all have our addictions. Go Awa, I have a friend Bruce,
Speaker 1: She says, m and the armament is good. One man boy,
Speaker 1: that person. He drinks a few drink every night. And
Speaker 1: I said, each one of these Ornams the martini for me,
Speaker 1: and I said, my martinis, that's the secret to being happy.
Speaker 1: I am so thrilled that you are exactly the way
Speaker 1: I remember you. Let one last question, what do you
Speaker 1: remember about me? I'm really curious what you remember about
Speaker 1: me back then. I remember you being energetic, poised, um
Speaker 1: and um, very I mean confident. I remember you being
Speaker 1: confident and yeah, exactly. Were so encouraging and you were
Speaker 1: such a support network on a set that you know,
Speaker 1: at times could be very destabilizing. They were. There was yelling,
Speaker 1: there was there was a sense that you know, we
Speaker 1: were going to disappoint adults that like there was an
Speaker 1: energy and you were, I mean, along with David Trainer,
Speaker 1: you were a source of uh strength and confidence and
Speaker 1: and and it was honest, it was earnest. It wasn't
Speaker 1: It didn't feel fake. It felt like you genuinely cared
Speaker 1: for us and we needed that. I needed that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember you know what I remember. I remember that
Speaker 1: I was trapped kind of in the in between of
Speaker 1: no no of my age as a person, where I
Speaker 1: was I was too old to really hang out with
Speaker 1: Danielle and Rider right at the beginning, and I was
Speaker 1: too young to hang out with Rusty and Betsy. And
Speaker 1: you became my friend. You you like you saw that
Speaker 1: and you actually you befriended me and I would hang
Speaker 1: out at your house and you taught me Canasta and
Speaker 1: we would play cards, and you would help me on
Speaker 1: different auditions and stuff. You like, you became my friend.
Speaker 1: That's what I remember the most is you saw a
Speaker 1: kid that was kind of in limbo a little bit,
Speaker 1: and you were like, he just needs a friend, and
Speaker 1: you took on that role. That's what I remember the most.
Speaker 1: So you held me at the acting, but more you
Speaker 1: helped me as a person. And when you tell me this,
Speaker 1: I love you. Guys. Tell me this especialists well, because
Speaker 1: as a child I was incredibly neglected. My my mother
Speaker 1: had three kids. I was she was twenty one the
Speaker 1: time she had me. So I was shoved aside and
Speaker 1: I went to my world, my fantasy world. So now
Speaker 1: that's why I took the lemons and turn the lemonade.
Speaker 1: Why my kids book, thousands of kids a book? Why
Speaker 1: and still imagination? I get just short notes. Some people
Speaker 1: like this will say you were there for me as
Speaker 1: a friend, you'd be friend to me. You made me
Speaker 1: feel good. Yeah, you did feel good. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of conflict with teenagers in my class. You know,
Speaker 1: they're going through a lot at the time, and I
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's grounding young people, and I love
Speaker 1: I still love it. I still love it. Well, like
Speaker 1: I thank you for staying. I really appreciate it. It
Speaker 1: was great. And also I've read your book. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 1: It is a really interesting look at the other side
Speaker 1: of of circus life. So everyone should pick it up.
Speaker 1: It is Ring Master, my year on the road with
Speaker 1: the greatest show on Earth. It is incredible. Chris. Thank
Speaker 1: you for being there for us when we were children,
Speaker 1: as a as a tent pole of stability, and thank
Speaker 1: you for being here with us now. It's uh really
Speaker 1: beautiful to reunite with you. And we can't wait to
Speaker 1: pop into the Christmas store and give you a big
Speaker 1: hug in person. And I will for sure be buying
Speaker 1: Christmas stuff you guys. I'm just amazed. I just thank
Speaker 1: you so much for thinking on me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Chris. It's awesome, Chris, thank you
Speaker 1: you're going for those dreams. Everybody. That was so much fun.
Speaker 1: We we really do have to plan that day to
Speaker 1: go to the Christmas store because, uh, it looks incredible,
Speaker 1: totally cool. I say, let's meet January seven. Okay, I
Speaker 1: love it. Let's do that right after, right after the holidays,
Speaker 1: his last year doing it. I hope that's not true.
Speaker 1: I hope not either. It seems like the perfect person
Speaker 1: for that man talk about a living Willy Wonka. He
Speaker 1: is that. It's great. I know that's true. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you guys for being here with us. We will see
Speaker 1: you for the next episode. We love you all. Pod dismissed.
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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge
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