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Speaker 1: the store, and I tell the story. And it's not

426
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Speaker 1: for sale. It's not for sale. It's not for sale,

427
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: but it's from So that's how I'm talking about. And

428
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm open just till out. I opened it last week.

429
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: Behind me its thousands of thousands of treasures and there's

430
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: tons more in the storage room. I did this with

431
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: one friend in fifteen days, three weeks ago. This was empty.

432
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: We did it and four heat that on a fourtement.

433
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: We were so hot and here it was so hot.

434
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: Arrival Christmas Shop right across the street. It's gonna be

435
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Chris, what are some of your favorite

436
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: onset memories? Okay, this is great. So when we started

437
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: the show, Bill had come from tape. He did the stage.

438
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: Bill Daniels to the stage and he came from tell

439
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: the tape show, I mean not tape shows, film shows,

440
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: singular camera shows, and these writers were putting him through

441
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: the worst by baking flowery language about his flowers, the

442
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: arya bouga filia, and it was just so hard. I

443
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: couldn't remember. It's like mamalizing. He got grocery list in Greek.

444
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. And I've always felt sorry for him,

445
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: so pure enough. The first episode he dealt there blooming,

446
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: the grooming the flowers, and he goes up and for

447
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: those that don't know what goes up and for out

448
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: his line. And I felt so vulnerable, and he felt vulnerable,

449
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: and the audience is there and just like got real quiet.

450
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: I walked over and just showing the line script and

451
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: we move done. Then after I'll never forget this. After

452
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: the show, he sat there on that set and he

453
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: looked at me as I'll just never get used to

454
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: pour camera. I'm just used. And I felt so bad

455
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: for Bill. They lightened it up. They lighted all that

456
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: dialogue out because it was just so heavy. Bill has

457
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: a great memory and he's a pro. It was just

458
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: that first episode when they laid on all of these adjectives.

459
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: It was a list of you know, alliteration that come on.

460
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do it, you know, in the circus,

461
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. So that was one of them. Remember,

462
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: and I love Bill Daniels, and and is he will

463
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: he come? The thing that's incredible is that he can

464
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: coming from film. You do get more time with your

465
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: dialogue and you can work on all the more. But

466
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: he was also coming from a medical show where gonna

467
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: talk about dialogue that you're gonna have to re member.

468
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he was memorizing all these medical speech. But

469
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: it's not or or on the same sitcoms those I

470
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: don't know what sitcoms, you have to stay the line

471
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: in order, and you sometimes most of the time you

472
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: filmed in order. In film shows you don't. And Michel

473
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: always changed it on the set. In the middle of

474
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: this year, he come in, now, we're not doing this scene.

475
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: We're not doing this. I'm telling you. For those that

476
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know, you talk this on episodes. You start with

477
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: one script on Monday, and by the time you tape

478
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and every day it's a different colored page,

479
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: so you know the new pages that are on there.

480
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: So by we get to tape night and there we

481
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: are on tape their hand and pages these kids in

482
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: in in the makeup. Oh, here's the new line line.

483
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: Then we get on the set, you guys, literally in

484
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: front of studio audience. They walk over, they run over,

485
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: will say this, insteps say this is They're changing lines

486
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: in front of a studio audience. So that's the fascinating thing.

487
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: But let's go talk about Morgan. Those are the want

488
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: to know about Morgan. You all know the Morgan story.

489
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can bauld you guys.

490
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: I heard you allude to it with David Trainer. But

491
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: let's go to a Morgan story. They hired this young

492
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: actress five and shoote as a But when I say cute,

493
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: you guys watch their first the first season. She's durable, vocable.

494
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: I guess it's hot behind the Bronco League. She was

495
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: so cute. We're on this set and it takes me

496
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: five days to make sure she hits her marks. For

497
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: those listening, that means moved the right place for the camera,

498
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: so we put an XX on there, or I say

499
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: put your hand. My real strip was put your hand

500
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: on the couch, on the end of the couch. That

501
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: always got her right where she belonged. Well, of course, invariably,

502
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe third third episode. I mean, she

503
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: was belligerent to she didn't really want to be there,

504
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: just so you know, and Mother's like, you know, agree

505
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: and okay, like bruk assaults mom almost like yes, yes, yes,

506
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, we'll do it for you, and she want

507
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: to make her happy. And uh, Michael, tell somebody to

508
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: run over to me and say get her to do this.

509
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: I said, give me a minute here. Five days that

510
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: took me just to get this dialogue set well, but

511
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: we want to change me want this, I said, give

512
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: me a minute, but the studio audience is there. So

513
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: I got down on my knees and from the couch.

514
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: She's sitting on the couch, I said, Lily, they want

515
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: you to Before I said they want you to do this,

516
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: she took her hand and she slapped my face in

517
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: front of the studio auto. All that just came back

518
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: to me. Jeff's seron Surman still breaks it up. Every

519
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: time I see him. He brings it up or talk

520
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: to him. But I was like, that was the beginning

521
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: of the end. I mean, definitely, even though she was

522
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: great the shows, like the most child actor moment ever,

523
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: right like in front of an audience slapping somebody giving

524
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: you a note. Ye, But I got her to do it.

525
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: But the reason I left after the first season was

526
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I waited. It was July and the first season we're

527
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: about to get ready to last week July, and I

528
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: get a call from Lovely Arlene Grace and our producer,

529
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: and Arlen said, unfortunately, and I know how television works,

530
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: we don't have the Baiolo coach in the budget. So

531
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: I was the first to go how it works at

532
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: you guys, there's raises give the second year, and those

533
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: stars get a lot more than I did. They raised

534
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: the money and as they spread it around to the crew,

535
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: so mine was the most money money they could use

536
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: at that time. It's expendable money. I'm saying. So that's

537
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: how he lost the job, and that's why I didn't

538
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: go back. But our dear David Trader got me on

539
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: Grace under Fire with Dylan Pulse Trader Um maybe this

540
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: time with Bett Betty White. And also he also got

541
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: me on that seventies show. I was the one who

542
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: taught Um Simpson just Simpson to act. He called me

543
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: in told past and you gotta brings the Adams was

544
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: the casting. You gotta ring Chris Kyer and to get

545
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: her to act, and we got already by bye. You

546
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 1: know how I had a lot of people like Jim

547
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Abbott and episodes appointments for not acting. They bring on,

548
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: but I had to teach them to act quickly. So

549
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: I gave my little technique to get there. Somebody else.

550
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: You were an acting coach for Anton Yelchin. Really Anton

551
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: yell Shin. I've got Ammon's night through the years, all

552
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: these wonderful stars and Anton at twenty seven years old,

553
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean Anton when here's the break story. He came

554
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: to me. He was eight years old, I believe, and

555
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: for the first six months he looked down at his shoes.

556
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: He couldn't look up. He was so scared and shocked.

557
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: So I in my classes, I'll take on the underdog,

558
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: just to My classes are good for confidence building too,

559
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: because I have odd come back to me over the years.

560
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: They have kids now and they tell me your classes

561
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: taught me to be unique. It was okay to be

562
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: myself because I would get in, but when anybody picked

563
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: on somebody else for being shy like that, I was

564
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: very shy, I believe, not at his age. Believe it

565
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: or not. When I had the struggled puppetry and show business,

566
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: I was fine. But he got the lead in a

567
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: movie called Hearts in Atlantis, and he was chosen by

568
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Hoping that role. I'm leaders. I mean, just so

569
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: you know. And Anton Yellston and many celebrities were taught

570
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: in my garage in North Hollywood. It doesn't matter what

571
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: the building you're in, That's where I taught. And Anton

572
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: came about a year and a half later at the

573
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: film came out and he brought me the big poster

574
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: with his mother, Hearts Atlantis, and on the poster he wrote,

575
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: UH to Chris, thank you for let me see something

576
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: other than my shoes. But a little Anton passed away

577
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: around twenty seven years old. It was a sad story.

578
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: But his car unfortunately one late night he was going

579
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: to his UH rock practice and I heard it on

580
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: the news and I called. Everybody was just devastating. But

581
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Anton Yellaston was a wonder. But he went on to

582
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: he played check off and in the such a he

583
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: had he had Star Trek at the time. He had

584
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: Star Trek and terminated in theaters at the same time.

585
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: It was like you invited me to the I want

586
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: to see his his UH his site over Hollywood Forever

587
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: and Hollywood. I live in Hollywood and there's just I

588
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: go once the while to see him there. They have

589
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: this big giant bronze statue of him right over his market,

590
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: so it was beautiful. They invited me to the funeral

591
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: and also to that which was a touching story. So yes,

592
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Anton was one of my one of my prize kids

593
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: that I really enjoyed working. Now, if they're if there

594
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: are people who are listening who are thinking about getting

595
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: their kids into the entertainment industry, what is your best

596
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: advice for parents and what's your best advice for the kids. Well,

597
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: the industry has changed a lot since the nineties when

598
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: we were working, and when you were working, we would

599
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: have to go like Danielle and all of you would

600
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: go to an audition trak an hour and a half

601
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: in traffic. Well, since COVID, it's all gone to zooming

602
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: as we're doing now, so the kids don't get the

603
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: one on one now. Just in the last year, I

604
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: started doing that on UH in person as well as online.

605
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: I had learned the whole animal doing zooming teaching online,

606
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: but I like to teach in person Proba his reasons

607
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: my energy and the kids because there's a different animal

608
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: when you're with the other person. So acting classes are

609
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: the first start, and then you have to fund an

610
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: agent or a manager. But you have to first ask

611
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: does your child really want to do this? Because I

612
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times during the decades I've

613
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: told the parents they don't really want to be Oh, yes,

614
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: they don't know. They don't try football, try wrestling, tribe art,

615
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: whatever is sewing. But they don't they say, do we

616
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: all know? They didn't want to be there, just like

617
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: they didn't want to hear at that age they wanted

618
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: it was the parents wanted them to do it. So

619
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot of zooming classes, still in person classes,

620
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: but zooming from all of the country now a lot

621
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: of kids. But that's the first start, is to get

622
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: them trained and though exactly what to do because the

623
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: agents want these kids ready to go on auditions. Yeah,

624
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: but the the the idea of being in a show

625
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: that is mortalized. You guys, when you see yourselves young

626
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: and your people identify you with those roles they grew

627
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: up with, you get my store I mentioned meets world.

628
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: You know who works from me here Kathy g and

629
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Ggoria right here next time. So the episode will goes

630
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: to the mall with with that Kathy Ireland to be

631
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: the model or just model falt statue was and he

632
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: wants to be a model or will they have and

633
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: they tried to sign up for modey. Well you hear

634
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: this voice in the background. You want to be a model,

635
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: all you have to do is doc Hilary the lobster,

636
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: the giant tub of butter. And that was my boy. Yes,

637
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I got a little like at Perk, a little extra

638
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: pay for that. But in rehearsal they had a moment

639
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: in the script that said, uh, shopper walks by and

640
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: looks at Will and Will have online Eric Elin and says,

641
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Right? And so I I

642
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: was doing rehearsal because they needed somebody and I walked

643
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: by this with my long hair. I was almost like

644
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: a shagm ting I'm talking about because I'm staring. I'm like,

645
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: this is what are you looking at it? And I

646
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: go So Michael Jacobs wants me to stay in in

647
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: the episode we saw recently, there's Chris and so everyone

648
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: knows Kathy Gan Grigorio, who was mentioned that works in

649
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: your store, is our script supervisor, was our script supervisor

650
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: for Boy Meets World and then and then was also

651
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: the script supervisor for Girl Meats World every episode. I

652
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: mean she was Kathew. We love Kathy, we love her.

653
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: I love her. That's why I can't touch all these years.

654
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: But she lives right here near my house and past

655
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: store in Pasadena. But last year we're working in the store,

656
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Kathin are there. Who walks in? But Rusty Russell walks

657
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the father You looked at both of us. You didn't

658
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: quite understand what's going on here. And he walks into

659
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: Christmas store. But he did say that in Christopher Caire's

660
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Christmas Corner, so I think he Well, that's the Rusty

661
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: fans for that. Rusty just finds Christmas stores all across

662
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: the world and wanders in and sometimes we're safe for

663
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: hours or days. They have to call people to remove him.

664
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Big Christmas store guy, Rusty. A lot of people don't

665
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: know that. Now, Chris, you are obviously very busy. So

666
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: how when was the last time you watched Boy Meets

667
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: World like you have? Have you ever sat down and

668
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: just like rewatched it? Picked up I'm still CD kind

669
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: of person. I picked up all the DVDs of the

670
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: entire first season. I haven't watched it. I've watched it

671
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: maybe four years ago, a few of the first that

672
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: it was such a great time in my life. But

673
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: you are like you. I'm a busy person, and I

674
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: mean I think the Boy Meets World. It was my

675
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: college for television television. When paper said we go to

676
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: the table on Monday. I don't know what's the table? Man?

677
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I was learning was an acting coach. I wasn't on

678
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: the set, so I learned. I was paid to learn

679
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: on the set of how Sitcom's running. For those that

680
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: know it, it really runs almost like a place the

681
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: closest nine to five job you'll get in show business,

682
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: you know. And it was very interesting, so as I

683
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: as I did Boy Meets when I watched it, and

684
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: those that don't know, I was an actor and I

685
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: am an actor. I have a performer. And after that

686
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: I got so much confidence through that show that myself

687
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: I was Bookie right up that an episode of Quantum

688
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: Leap right after that. I did never sign build the

689
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: Gym Gymnast where they need to remaster that, but I'm

690
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: known as the youngest and look alike I am. They

691
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: call a Dick Van Dyck alike. So one of my

692
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: one of my auditions on my agent, I a lesser soul.

693
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Risk I have I got an audation for you. I

694
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: got it. They're looking for Dick van doc in nineteen

695
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: sixty four as cheat Cheety Bang Bang. I said, okay,

696
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: So I went down running the custom around from his studio,

697
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: put a little gray in my hair and I looked

698
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: in the mirror wand I couldn't leave it like Dick

699
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: Van Dyke. So I went an audition. Next thing I know,

700
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: you had to have a passport, you had to have this.

701
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: They were whisked me off to Australia for eleven days.

702
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: They flew the actual car from the movie and I

703
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: got to drive the car from Chitty Cheety Bang Bang.

704
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: And in this concial advert it was an advertisement for

705
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: a d v l A, which is a department of

706
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: vehicles in England. If you don't pay your registration like

707
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: you do here, they take a picture of your license plate,

708
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: get the your car gets booted. Were the most famous

709
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: cars Chi Bay and in the commercial I'm trying to

710
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: take off and the car gets booted and we're trying

711
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: to fly away on YouTube on YouTube, so wait you did,

712
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know sign fell backward and forward. You

713
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: did the episode of the Gymnast. Yes, when he's up

714
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: on the top Greemaster, Ladies and gentlemen, the flying amazing, okay,

715
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: gymnas the adult stone you also, if memory served, I

716
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: think while we were doing Boy Me Tworld, you were

717
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: almost Waldo. Almost I was Waldo, but you're seeing the

718
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: feature in the feature film as in wear Waldo. Yeah,

719
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: because you I was looking like that. I had auditioned

720
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: for another job and I played wall to all of

721
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: the country appearing and I was signed to do it.

722
00:35:49,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, hold him we found him there passed this.

723
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry. What were you doing as well?

724
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: Day I saw the trade papers like I did the

725
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: remaster job. They were looking for a wal Though look alike.

726
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: So I went and got a striped shirt the glasses on,

727
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: and I walked an audition and they needed a wal

728
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Though and at the time I was really skinny, like

729
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: when you guys have a phone. And I got the job.

730
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Then they cast me as Waldo in the feature film,

731
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: which moment, which which film was it? It was never

732
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: the pan pass it and there's Waldo's sitting on the

733
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: guy that did it was but he was a friend

734
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: of But here's the part I did get. So after

735
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: I did my chech band Bang, I was lucky enough

736
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: to get the video from my audition from the Cassie

737
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: director and they were looking for a Dick Van di

738
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: canect and a movie called Saving Mr. Bank. Chris Clark

739
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: gets in there auditions and I played in the feature

740
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: film when they have Julie Andrews Dick Van at the

741
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: red carpet of the opening in front of Man's shines Steter.

742
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: We shot a five minutes from house, late at night.

743
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was there and just shaking his head. He

744
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: was just feels like it was yesterday, fifty years ago

745
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: and we're sitting here and you looked like Dick Vanda.

746
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: It was just it was chilled for all of a

747
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: sudden set. So Saving Mr Banks was the other one. Yeah,

748
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: you do. You have the most interesting careers ever. As

749
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: you're sitting there surrounded by Christmas, it's so great, you know. Yeah,

750
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: I just I'll do anything, you know what I started

751
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: to as a kid. I was shy, so I started

752
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: worked with puppets and I became a puppeteer At twelve

753
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: years old. I put an ad in the paper and

754
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: for seventy five dollars you could pick me up at

755
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: your station wagon and I would entertain her birthday parties,

756
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: father daughter, Baker, and I booked myself. I may, I

757
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: booked all the time. What kid could do that? Now

758
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: you can't be picked up by strangers in a car

759
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: for the party. But that was my entrepreneurial state back then.

760
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: And then there's so many things that in my mind.

761
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: When I get an idea, I'm a doer, so it

762
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is. And I hate when people say, oh,

763
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: that will never work. I can't stand there so un

764
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: last the last ten years, I've been directing musicals all

765
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: over the world, all over the country, and also starring

766
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: as Captain Hook and Peter Pan's my my go to role,

767
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: and the show that I directed seven times now, So

768
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I think I've been doing my things, still teaching. I

769
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: just think that anybody out there, when you think of

770
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: that idea, that little morsel, the germ of an idea,

771
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: do it. I had this great idea for a TV

772
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: pilot called Master Motive, and this is the way before

773
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: its computers just come out. But this little boy comes

774
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: in and he has a new video game. He pops

775
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: it in and he spills his jews on the Internet

776
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: on the computer pad, and it sucks him into the

777
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: world of Master Motive. And I played Master Modem very

778
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka. Well, I did this because I had just

779
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: done a serious of leading a series called Boint Barnyard Place,

780
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and I knew the crew and I knewhere was filmed it.

781
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: So I spent a hundred thousand dollars with somebody else

782
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: going in and we filmed this, this this wonderful pilot. Well,

783
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: I've taken to NAPY convention to try to get booked

784
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: and it was really good. David Trayner taught me well

785
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: in direction and shots and everything, and we got Lynn

786
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: McCracken to come in and Captain Jim Gloria. They were

787
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: doing our personal did the shots so and those I

788
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Lind was a stage manager on. Yeah. So anyways,

789
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: boy me's role, I can't tell you who it was,

790
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: but there was a celebrity's father who had taken the

791
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: idea decided to do a film on it still the

792
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: idea and the kid that I cast in the lead.

793
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I founded them all. They had auditions. They literally cast

794
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: the same board. Oh come on hello. I had a lawyer.

795
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: We went into it. My partner she was very wealthy

796
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: and she did not want to go through the litigation.

797
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: So we had to fold because we didn't have the

798
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: money that they had. She had a lot, but I

799
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: said no, so we folded. So that's the story. But

800
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: more of the stories the film was never released. But

801
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: my unfortunately master modem, which was I was the keeper

802
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: of the keys. Every week we would log onto a

803
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: new episode. He would travel to a new place, we

804
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: take a key, put it in, we traveled someplace else

805
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: it was and I was really wonk. It was really

806
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: was this madman trying to get the kid home. This

807
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: whole thing was home. So that's what I've been doing.

808
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I just I just do I do. I'm gonna do it.

809
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Where can people find you? Because like you said,

810
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: I know you like to do acting. This is in person.

811
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: It's a totally different thing when you're able to be

812
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: in person. But I'm sure there are people all across

813
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: the country and across the world who would love to

814
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: take an acting class with you. Where can people find you,

815
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: reach out to you, try to get your help any

816
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Well, Danielle, just recently, my two months ago,

817
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: I had a girl from New York in my zoom

818
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: class and she hadn't heard me on another podcast and

819
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm not really in tune to the internet and all

820
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: of the podcasting it, but she had heard about my

821
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: classes on a podcast. So what I do is I

822
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: not only teach confidence, but teach on camera commercial technique

823
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: as well as UH technique for television and film. And

824
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: what it is is my school is very exclusive and

825
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: I teach all the technique I've learned through the years.

826
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: And to get in touch with me, it's www Chris

827
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Kire dot com, k R I s K y e

828
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: R Chris Kire dot com. And then they could just

829
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: get from there and email me and let me know

830
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: that they're interested in classes. And again, I have kids

831
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: from all over the country. My class this afternoon and

832
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: it will be ten kids from around the United States.

833
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Not interesting? Are we just start there? So to get

834
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: in touch with me for the class, But that's the

835
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: best way to do, go to the website and where

836
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: is your Christmas store right now? Okay, So it's pop up,

837
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: as I said, different year every year, and uh different

838
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: places every year. And this is on the corner of

839
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Altadena in Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena, East Pasadena, and it's

840
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: uh at empty space. And it's been harder and harder

841
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: than the first month of August. First of August, I

842
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: first today of August, I traveled city and burbank in

843
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: the heat, walking behind Ally's trying to get numbers. Brochers

844
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: won't call me back. I have to be pushy to

845
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: get to a landlord to give me that four month lease.

846
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: That's so this worked out, preeb. Still, I had no

847
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: place this year, and all these things I just bought

848
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: back from Europe. I was in trouble and my landlord

849
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: from last year put me in touch with this and

850
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: here we are. So the store is East Colorado in Pasadena,

851
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: and I don't ship and I'm not online. People. You

852
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: have to get the treasures in person. I then wiped

853
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: out all this stuff to see the people. Yes, Jensen,

854
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: Jensen and I are gonna bring our kids and we're

855
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna come in and we're gonna buy stuff.

856
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: Will writer, if you guys want to make a little

857
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: road trip out because I think this will be my

858
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: last year because it's been so difficult. I've been doing

859
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: this since two thousand and eight, and because it was

860
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: stressed out, I can't find the four months least anymore.

861
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: So I have to come in definitely my last year.

862
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Can you can I ask you? Can? I ask a

863
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: personal question? Are you wearing Christmas pants? Because that would

864
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: be awesome if you were. No. I got my top

865
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: hat which I wear the store every day. We're gonna

866
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: put on where's your top hat? People say to me,

867
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: Pop had the greatest show on Earth? All these rules

868
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: that I wear a top hat, but I have a

869
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: shirt on, and I seldom in the store. I have shirts.

870
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: Of course, to the store when people want the shirts

871
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: that I'm wearing, they bought those kind of shirts. I

872
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: have those two. My last question for you, and I

873
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: think you're the perfect person to answer this. What is

874
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: the secret to being happy? Okay? This is what I

875
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: tell when I lecture is my class and everything. This

876
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: is me carefully everybody. This is the most insightful thing

877
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: you can know. And I know this from experience. I'll

878
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: be thirty nine in May that I just um, I

879
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: just know that this is important. No, this is serious.

880
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: People say you're thirty nine on nice and not yet,

881
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: not till May. Every year my friends on Facebook they say, oh,

882
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: you're thirty nine, and I said, don't push on. Not

883
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: thirty nine yet. So the thing is, this is what

884
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: I say, and this is what makes one happy. And

885
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: I have the I have the downs as much as

886
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: the adversity, as much as everybody out there. But my

887
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: best friend passed away about seven years ago with a

888
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: lot of regrets. He didn't he was the most masterful writer.

889
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: He wrote the music to many things, my Master Modem show.

890
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: And he sat there on his bed and he had

891
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: all these regrets. And I looked at him. I thought, Michael,

892
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the remaster with the great shown had

893
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: you not been my mentor and taught me in the

894
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: first class I did at eighteen years old, my first show.

895
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: But the inside is this, You go for every darn

896
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: dream you have, every one of them. They're not gonna

897
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: all come true. Not all of them will come to

898
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they won't. But having gone for them

899
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: is what's gonna leave you the most fulfilled person in

900
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: the world. Because I have had riches beyond, because I

901
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: have pursued everything, I have no regrets. If I want

902
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: the full quarter ice cream, I eat it. I'm just

903
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: saying you literally and things you're doing life. If you're

904
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: going for something, there's a satisfaction. But having gone for

905
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: master motive, even though I lost tons of money and fly,

906
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm so satisfied that I did it. So all I

907
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: can say is, when the opportunity comes, or you come

908
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: up with an idea, do it. Just remember this. A

909
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: dream is just a dream until you make it a reality.

910
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: That's right. That's what keeps me going and very And

911
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I've never tried a cup of coffee. Can you imagine

912
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: me on coffee. I've never tried to cigarette in my life,

913
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: no drugs. This is natural energy, and my energy has

914
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: got me everything I need. If you do your passion

915
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: and go for your passion with sincere energy, you will

916
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: be the happiest person on this planet. That's amazing. Unfortunately,

917
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: my passion was caffeine and cigarettes. We all followed the dream,

918
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: all have our addictions. Go Awa, I have a friend Bruce,

919
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: She says, m and the armament is good. One man boy,

920
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: that person. He drinks a few drink every night. And

921
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: I said, each one of these Ornams the martini for me,

922
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: and I said, my martinis, that's the secret to being happy.

923
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: I am so thrilled that you are exactly the way

924
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: I remember you. Let one last question, what do you

925
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: remember about me? I'm really curious what you remember about

926
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: me back then. I remember you being energetic, poised, um

927
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: and um, very I mean confident. I remember you being

928
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: confident and yeah, exactly. Were so encouraging and you were

929
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: such a support network on a set that you know,

930
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: at times could be very destabilizing. They were. There was yelling,

931
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: there was there was a sense that you know, we

932
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: were going to disappoint adults that like there was an

933
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: energy and you were, I mean, along with David Trainer,

934
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: you were a source of uh strength and confidence and

935
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: and and it was honest, it was earnest. It wasn't

936
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: It didn't feel fake. It felt like you genuinely cared

937
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: for us and we needed that. I needed that. Yeah, yeah,

938
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: I remember you know what I remember. I remember that

939
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I was trapped kind of in the in between of

940
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: no no of my age as a person, where I

941
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: was I was too old to really hang out with

942
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: Danielle and Rider right at the beginning, and I was

943
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: too young to hang out with Rusty and Betsy. And

944
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: you became my friend. You you like you saw that

945
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: and you actually you befriended me and I would hang

946
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: out at your house and you taught me Canasta and

947
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: we would play cards, and you would help me on

948
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: different auditions and stuff. You like, you became my friend.

949
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: That's what I remember the most is you saw a

950
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: kid that was kind of in limbo a little bit,

951
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: and you were like, he just needs a friend, and

952
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: you took on that role. That's what I remember the most.

953
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: So you held me at the acting, but more you

954
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: helped me as a person. And when you tell me this,

955
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: I love you. Guys. Tell me this especialists well, because

956
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: as a child I was incredibly neglected. My my mother

957
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: had three kids. I was she was twenty one the

958
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: time she had me. So I was shoved aside and

959
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: I went to my world, my fantasy world. So now

960
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: that's why I took the lemons and turn the lemonade.

961
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: Why my kids book, thousands of kids a book? Why

962
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: and still imagination? I get just short notes. Some people

963
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: like this will say you were there for me as

964
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: a friend, you'd be friend to me. You made me

965
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: feel good. Yeah, you did feel good. And there's a

966
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of conflict with teenagers in my class. You know,

967
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: they're going through a lot at the time, and I

968
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's grounding young people, and I love

969
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: I still love it. I still love it. Well, like

970
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: I thank you for staying. I really appreciate it. It

971
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: was great. And also I've read your book. It's really fascinating.

972
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: It is a really interesting look at the other side

973
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: of of circus life. So everyone should pick it up.

974
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: It is Ring Master, my year on the road with

975
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: the greatest show on Earth. It is incredible. Chris. Thank

976
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: you for being there for us when we were children,

977
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: as a as a tent pole of stability, and thank

978
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: you for being here with us now. It's uh really

979
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: beautiful to reunite with you. And we can't wait to

980
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: pop into the Christmas store and give you a big

981
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: hug in person. And I will for sure be buying

982
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: Christmas stuff you guys. I'm just amazed. I just thank

983
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: you so much for thinking on me. I really appreciate it.

984
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Chris. It's awesome, Chris, thank you

985
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: you're going for those dreams. Everybody. That was so much fun.

986
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: We we really do have to plan that day to

987
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: go to the Christmas store because, uh, it looks incredible,

988
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: totally cool. I say, let's meet January seven. Okay, I

989
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: love it. Let's do that right after, right after the holidays,

990
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: his last year doing it. I hope that's not true.

991
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: I hope not either. It seems like the perfect person

992
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: for that man talk about a living Willy Wonka. He

993
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: is that. It's great. I know that's true. Well, thank

994
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: you guys for being here with us. We will see

995
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: you for the next episode. We love you all. Pod dismissed.

996
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: Pod Meats World is an I heart podcast produced and

997
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilford, L and Right Or Strong.

998
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge

999
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor, Taara soup Box producer,

1000
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets World super fan Eastern Allen.

1001
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon and

1002
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600
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1003
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,480
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1004
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: gmail dot com.