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Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Cam

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself and Cynthia Bailey. We are bringing

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Speaker 2: on today Gina Kirschenheider and her new co host, Shane McNally.

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Speaker 2: They have started a podcast together. Join Gina from the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Orange County and Shane, a three time

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Speaker 2: Grammy Award winning country singer, songwriter producer, as they team

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Speaker 2: up to bring you Orange Country Podcast. Through their blend

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Speaker 2: of humor and heart, Gina and Shane prove that individuals

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Speaker 2: from different backgrounds can share common experiences. New episodes of

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Speaker 2: the podcast are released every Wednesday, allowing listeners to tune

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Speaker 2: in regular I'm pretty excited to dig into this pod

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Speaker 2: to ask all the hard hitting questions. Let's bring them on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thanks for having me. Guys, super excited.

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Speaker 2: We need to talk about a little something that happened

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Speaker 2: on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get me in trouble. Teddy, I can.

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Speaker 2: Tell about well that's who I am. But no, it's

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Speaker 2: all already out there and they discussed it on watch

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Speaker 2: What Happens Live?

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Speaker 4: So okay, really, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: It was once Andy talks about it, it's fair game. Yeah, yes, granted,

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Speaker 2: in a shocking turn of events, Heather didn't give much

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Speaker 2: in response. She played it safe, So I'm hoping you

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Speaker 2: will do something different for us. So it started out

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Speaker 2: what I'm seeing, this is not even episode related, This

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Speaker 2: is solely and Instagram related. Was Shannon went on watch

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Speaker 2: what Happens Live after you wearing what looks like the

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Speaker 2: same skirt from Alice and Olivia to me to my eye,

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Speaker 2: and you essentially your first post said something along the

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Speaker 2: lines of like glad to see another customer bought my

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Speaker 2: safe thing, could shop from me, blah blah blah. But

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Speaker 2: then you wrote imitation but spelled it imitation correct.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it did do that. It did, Okay, So was

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Speaker 4: the misspelling intentional or no it was not.

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Speaker 3: I just like you guys have to understand, like I

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Speaker 3: thought this was so funny, and like I was just

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Speaker 3: like doing it and I was like laughing as I'm

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Speaker 3: doing it because it's a joke, you know, And it

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Speaker 3: was it was funny, you know, So I and also like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely not the best speller, like and I don't

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Speaker 3: understand this.

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Speaker 4: Like everybody's trying to pretend.

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Speaker 3: Like they're weeding spelling bees out here, like we're not,

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Speaker 3: like nobody can spell so right.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually I'm hysterical.

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Speaker 2: I'm really offended by this because I'm an excellent speller.

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Speaker 2: I just can't do one bit of math, not even

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Speaker 2: my third grader's math.

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Speaker 5: Well, I.

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Speaker 6: I spent a very uh unhealthy amount of time googling

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Speaker 6: the right spelling work.

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Speaker 4: I posted anything like I because.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing worse when you're throwing fun shake and it

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Speaker 6: doesn't land right because you misspelled.

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Speaker 4: Something and now you know what I'm saying because it

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Speaker 4: was funny. Yeah, let me learn.

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Speaker 2: So then Shannon posts, I'm not gonna take it anymore.

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Speaker 2: No one noticed you wearing that skirt on Watch What

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Speaker 2: Happens Live, including myself, but people noticed when I wore it,

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Speaker 2: So I feel like this is when things start to

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Speaker 2: get a little dicey. Then we get into the episode

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Speaker 2: where I think, standing alone Shannon dressing as you during

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Speaker 2: those harder times that could have been perceived as funny,

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Speaker 2: but now we've gotten to kind of a worse place

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Speaker 2: through social media.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because now I'm pissed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so now the joke has probably been taken too far.

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Speaker 2: Shannon wrote, hope you enjoy my imuitation on Gina on

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Speaker 2: Tonight's Real Housewives of Orange County. And then it kind

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Speaker 2: of continues more where you say, I've definitely gone through

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Speaker 2: some hard times so great that you're always there to

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Speaker 2: remind me of them. That's just the kind of person

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Speaker 2: you are, and Shannon responds, I didn't know bad extensions,

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Speaker 2: bad hair, and a bad wardrobe were hard times.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought at the beginning, and I've you know,

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Speaker 2: I know I give everybody a hard time. I always say,

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Speaker 2: you're only as good as last week's episode, and believe me,

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Speaker 2: I was bad in the majority of episodes. So I

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Speaker 2: thought you started it originally with the with the outfit.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: It did, yes, Okay, but now where are we now,

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Speaker 7: Like now that this has been posted, because this is

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Speaker 7: kind of where I was like, you know, Shannon should

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Speaker 7: have just the invitation she could have.

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Speaker 2: Gotten away with, But now this, I don't know about

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Speaker 2: bad extensions, bad hair, and a bad wardrobe. That's where

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Speaker 2: it hit me. I was like, I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: taking it too far right.

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Speaker 3: I think for me, it's like, look, you know, we

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Speaker 3: live in this world and there is like this level

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Speaker 3: of acceptance of like light shade, funny drama stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm obviously all in on it. I obviously can take

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Speaker 3: I mean, she dressed up like me at my worst

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Speaker 3: in the episode. I took it very well.

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Speaker 4: I get it. I've been laughing about my hair for years.

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Speaker 4: But when I make a joke and.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, haha, we were the seam skirt and you

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Speaker 3: use that as yet another opportunity to remind you that

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Speaker 3: you're better than me and that nobody likes me, that's cruel,

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Speaker 3: you know, And like that's where it crosses a line

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Speaker 3: for me, Like, so you addresses me.

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Speaker 4: I take it as a joke.

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Speaker 3: I say, haha, you're chopping by LTK and you're like

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Speaker 4: That's like not the same level, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, And then to go on to say you know,

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Speaker 3: like now, it's just so unnecessary and I feel like

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Speaker 3: in those moments I have to just take it, take

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Speaker 3: You know, it's light shade is part of this world

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Speaker 3: and part of this job. And listen, it was a joke,

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Speaker 3: it was funny. But then to come back and tell

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Speaker 3: and this is what she does a lot, right, I'm

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Speaker 3: that what I can only wish to be on her level,

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Speaker 3: Like this is a woman who also is twenty years

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Speaker 3: older than me, and I do.

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Speaker 2: Want to that's the right shame look up for her

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Speaker 2: and a way, well, I want.

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Speaker 4: To respect her, like I'm not that person. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't ever make fun of them anybody for the

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Speaker 3: way they look, for their age, none of that. Like

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Speaker 3: I respect well really for the most part, my cast

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Speaker 3: it's different.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that? I mean, because even when we're

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking how if she responded, if you

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Speaker 2: would have been devastated.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, and I think that's the game

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Speaker 3: that she plays here is you know, she can just

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Speaker 3: ignore us, treat us bad and all that, and then

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Speaker 3: the second you try to say anything.

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Speaker 4: To her, She's like instantly of it them right.

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Speaker 6: I will say. My little thought on the back and

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Speaker 6: forth was I definitely Gina. I felt like it was

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Speaker 6: hilarious at first. I was like, Okay, this is good,

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Speaker 6: just being kind of mean. And I felt like it

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Speaker 6: like even like I mean, I didn't even mind, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: the hair extend is whatever, we all have had a

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Speaker 6: bad weed.

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Speaker 4: Whatever. It's like we can laugh at that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, after being on eleven years of Housewives of Atlanta,

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Speaker 6: I dread looking back at the beginning, like the first

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Speaker 6: three or four seasons on the show, we all looked

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Speaker 6: the hot mess. So I get it we can laugh

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Speaker 6: at ourselves, but I do. I did feel like it

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Speaker 6: sorry to feel uncomfortable for me once I felt like

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Speaker 6: it was kind of going towards Meansville. So mean Bill, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I don't like mean Bill. It doesn't sit well.

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Speaker 3: This has actually bothered me in all actuality for the

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Speaker 3: last couple of years, and it truld be told it

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Speaker 3: was a joke. I did think it was funny, and

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Speaker 3: maybe that was my error in making a joke towards

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Speaker 3: somebody that just plea cannot take one. And I will

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Speaker 3: not make that mistique again because I do not like

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Speaker 3: where it's gone. I do not want to perpetuate this

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Speaker 4: It's tough, but I always want to take the joke.

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Speaker 4: I can't help it.

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Speaker 3: I go like, as soon as look, I know that

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Speaker 3: Canton wasn't shopping my lt K, Like she's lucky she

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Speaker 3: got there, and you're.

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Speaker 2: Trying to get that money. Like I'm always like, go

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Speaker 2: to my LTK, chap that leg shop.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, actually a lot of people bought the skirts, so

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Speaker 4: that was really cool. Yeah, but but like I knew.

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Speaker 3: I just it's like, you know, there's.

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Speaker 2: A difference to me. I think there's a difference between me.

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Speaker 2: We we tease Tamora because Tamar had the same outfit

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Speaker 2: on as Teresa, and like they had that and that

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Speaker 2: that wearing the same outfit is funny. But then once

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Speaker 2: you and I and I like Shannon. I hung out

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Speaker 2: with Shannon, I like her. So none of that is

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Speaker 2: I just thought it went a little bit too far.

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Speaker 2: But now we're going to play a game that they

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Speaker 2: played on Watch What Happens Live with both of you.

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Speaker 2: So Shane, welcome to the conversation him.

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Speaker 4: Shane, Oh my god, Hi, Hi.

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Speaker 2: Well, first we're going to ask you, besides Gina, Shane,

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Speaker 2: who's your favorite housewife?

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm, Well it's a tie between Cynthia Bailey and

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Speaker 5: Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't choose. No, really, I love I love all

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Speaker 5: the housewives. I mean, god, favorite, it's so hard, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I just I have loved you guys for so long.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I have different reasons for different people.

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Speaker 5: I love Kyle y Oh, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I've just really always loved I feel like she has

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Speaker 5: such a good heart. I feel like that comes through

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Speaker 5: and I probably secretly really like a lot of people

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Speaker 5: that I think I hate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love to hate. I love to hate,

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Speaker 2: like hate watch. But then I don't need to tell

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Speaker 2: them on their social media, like I could just feel

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Speaker 2: it and then live it. Okay, so here's our watch

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Speaker 2: what Happens Live with Heather moments, Heather says, some people

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Speaker 2: talk about things off camera, and some people bring them

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Speaker 2: on to create a storyline. Did you okay as being

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Speaker 2: a non housewife, Shane, did you pick that up or

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Speaker 2: were you picking up just Heather's because they kept saying

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Speaker 2: last night on watching it, Happ's life Heather's escape. In

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Speaker 5: It in no way ne yates what happened, and it

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Speaker 5: Okay, please please.

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Speaker 5: I'm embarrassed, like I said, And yeah, to see that

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Speaker 5: song go to number one, I just I just I

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Speaker 5: hope that it's just that people were so sort of

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Speaker 5: interested to even see what it said. I mean, the

442
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Speaker 5: truth is, the most offensive thing about that song is

443
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Speaker 5: it's just a terrible song. It's awful, terrible songwriting, terrible.

444
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 5: It's just it sounds terrible. I'm embarrassed that people would

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Speaker 5: go there and think that's what country music is. Well.

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Speaker 2: And this is coming from someone My dad wrote a

447
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: great song about a small town that was positive.

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Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of people use that song as

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Speaker 5: a reference as this is how you write a song

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Speaker 5: about a small town. I mean, the thing is, you know,

451
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Speaker 5: Jay Soneudeen has already recorded fourteen songs with the word

452
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Speaker 5: town in the title. I'm like, I don't know why

453
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: this and this one is like fourteenth on the list.

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Speaker 5: The guy has made some great music in the past,

455
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Speaker 5: He's done some big things for the genre, but this is, yeah,

456
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 5: it's it's embarrassing. And I mean not that he cares

457
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Speaker 5: what my opinion is, but you know, the truth is,

458
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Speaker 5: I just don't want to be associated with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like that. How did you guys, How did

460
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Speaker 2: you guys meet Jayson Aldeen Jena, We've moved on from him, Gina.

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Speaker 5: Take this, I mean we you know, I'm a lover

462
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Speaker 5: of the show, Gina became friends with someone who works

463
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Speaker 5: at my company, and then they really hit it off,

464
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Speaker 5: and you know, Gina, please take it. I know. We

465
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Speaker 5: originally met at a restaurant.

466
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Speaker 4: Yeah we met, Yeah, we met at a restaurant.

467
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Speaker 3: We met through My kids were huge Walker Hayes fans,

468
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Speaker 3: and they were having a concert around the block from

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Speaker 3: where I lived, and we went and I hit it

470
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Speaker 3: off with Walker and his family. They have six kids,

471
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Speaker 3: we have six kids. Became fast friends. And then then

472
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Speaker 3: I met Shane through Walker and we just like hit

473
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: it off so well, and we couldn't show, you know,

474
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 3: both of us be like to talk. We don't shut up,

475
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: so you know, and then we were just like what

476
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Speaker 3: could we do? And we were just having very interesting conversations,

477
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: and we were like, you know what we should We

478
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: should just start a podcast, you know, and we just

479
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: did and it's been working. I feel like it's very

480
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: it's really nice for me to be able to talk

481
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: freely and you know, go deeper into things without you know,

482
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: feeling like I'm trying to drive some other machine. It's

483
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: just real conversations about real things. Of course, like we dip,

484
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes into housewife stuff but it's really not

485
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: the root of it.

486
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Speaker 4: It's not the crux of it.

487
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: We talk about parenting sobriety, pop culture, like non traditional

488
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: parenting styles, just like everything and anything. This week we're

489
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: gonna do horrible dating stories. I've got plenty, you know,

490
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and it's just a really good fun time.

491
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: I think it's more positive and uplifting. Like it's not

492
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: like we you know, they're going to come to you

493
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: guys for their tea and their housewife stuff, and then

494
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: this is like a different thing than it. So and

495
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: which I think also Teddy is like healthy and like

496
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Speaker 3: both of you can attest it. It's like it's like

497
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm still on it now, so I have enough of

498
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: it in my life. It's nice to feel like I

499
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Speaker 3: have something outside of that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can, housewives can become very overwhelming. I just

501
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Speaker 6: want to ask you really quickly, Gina, what do you

502
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Speaker 6: think is the most misunderstood thing about you? I think

503
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Speaker 6: a lot of times when you're a housewife, you know,

504
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 6: we can be very misunderstood. What do you think is

505
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 6: the biggest thing that people the biggest misconception that people

506
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Speaker 6: have about you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe that I'm boring.

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Speaker 2: During the club.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can't have that one.

510
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: I already have boring over here.

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00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: God, that's our trying to steal our stuff.

512
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Speaker 4: I mean, what else you got we about the boring one?

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Speaker 3: It really means you're like the most stable and well adjusted.

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00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: That's what way. That's what us boring people tell ourselves.

515
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: Right, I'm you're well adjusted, You're well adjusted.

516
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: You're not crazy.

517
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 6: And what is your favorite way to you know, I know,

518
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 6: filming is really tough, and you know, for me, I

519
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 6: always had to like figure out, like you know, when

520
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 6: I would get home from filming, like I would have

521
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Speaker 6: to figure out how I wanted to decompress. What's your

522
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: favorite way to just decompress and just kind of, you know,

523
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 6: remove yourself and just like mentally not think about the show,

524
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Speaker 6: like after you finished filming the scene, are coming from a.

525
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Speaker 4: Trip there a trip? Forgot it?

526
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Speaker 3: I'm full terms definitely little top, you know, for sure

527
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: for sure, But yeah, I just I just can't have

528
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: I cannot have it, Like I can't watch even my

529
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Speaker 3: own episodes nothing Housewive past like seven PM, or I get.

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Speaker 4: Anxiety out of my voice on TV.

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Speaker 6: Like I hear myself and I'm like, oh my god,

532
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Speaker 6: watching that turn it turn it turn totally.

533
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Even like if I'm in bed and Traveler has his

535
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: phone and it goes on audio and I hear anything,

536
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Speaker 3: I just instantly get anxiety, even if it's not like

537
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Speaker 3: a houseway thing, because I think maybe it's gonna be

538
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Speaker 3: and I.

539
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: Just get anxiety.

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Speaker 3: So I been need or and then I can't sleep,

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Speaker 3: and then I'm up all night just eating gushers, you know,

542
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I cannot do all things like choose

543
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: something like hot to Mollie's no they I know Tamar

544
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: gets on me all the time for my eating habits.

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Speaker 2: But no, I love your junk food, but gus shirts

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Speaker 2: always love them. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We know you have a full day of press today.

548
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Speaker 2: Make sure to tune in to their podcast, Orange Country

549
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: Podcast with Gina and Shane. I'm sure it'll be so interesting.

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Speaker 2: You guys, get your housewife tea here but all the

551
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: other good stuff. Go ahead and get over there.

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Speaker 5: I have to say I have to say real quick, Teddy,

553
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I know we're going over time, but I

554
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: just have to say thank y'all for having us, and

555
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: I love both of you ladies so much. I really

556
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Speaker 5: am just a huge fan Cynthia. Years ago, I worked

557
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 5: as a PA on this when y'all did like a tour.

558
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 5: Do you remember when y'all would go and like do

559
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Speaker 5: sit on stage and like answer questions? This is like

560
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: a decade ago, and I did one of the shows

561
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Speaker 5: that you were at and you were so nice and anyway,

562
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: I just it was fake. I knew that it was fake,

563
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 5: but I appreciated it.

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Speaker 4: Listen, listen, that is so cool.

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Speaker 6: I totally remember that tour, and uh, you know, congrats

566
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Speaker 6: to you guys.

567
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Speaker 4: You guys have great energy.

568
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Speaker 5: Love people. Gina.

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Speaker 4: You know, it took me a minute time warm up

570
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Speaker 4: to you.

571
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Speaker 5: In the beginning.

572
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Speaker 6: I was like, why is this on?

573
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: Trigger about it?

574
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: But it's going on. But I love watching you. I

575
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: think you're just such a light on the show.

576
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Speaker 6: And I'm just really enjoying getting to know more about

577
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 6: you and your family and your boo and all that stuff.

578
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 6: So congrats on everything, Love you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Cynthia. That's so sweet. Thank you Paul. It

580
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Speaker 4: was good seeing you.

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Speaker 5: Teddy.

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Speaker 2: Bye guys, Bye,