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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for not attending my father's

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Speaker 1: wedding even though we said it was non negotiable, so beneficial?

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Speaker 1: Aru four nine two says my twenty five female father

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Speaker 1: forty five male, and my mother forty female, got divorced

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Speaker 1: around two years ago. To me, it wasn't a surprise

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Speaker 1: at all. I had seen it coming since I was

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Speaker 1: ten years old. That sounds sad. However, to my father

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Speaker 1: and my brother, seventeen male, it was a total and

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Speaker 1: devastating shock. My brother, who had already had a myriad

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Speaker 1: of other mental health and school issues, didn't take it well,

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Speaker 1: and my father was blindsided. How did op know at ten?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was like a you had to be outside

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Speaker 1: of the situation too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she probably saw like a situation when she was younger, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they're not a good fit. That's not gonna last that long.

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Speaker 2: Dad chose vanilla, chose chocolate, not gonna work over.

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Speaker 1: Now, two years later, him and my mother are both

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Speaker 1: in new relationships.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they've moved on, but.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I haven't moved on from.

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Speaker 2: Everyone in the street. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Welcome, we're back back, We're back and better than evdraws.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that.

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Speaker 1: You had withdrawals from us being gone. We were We

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Speaker 1: were vid conning it up man meeting all the people.

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Speaker 1: We met a lot of really cool people. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty fun. But let's get back to this kind of

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Speaker 1: uh sad story. My father met a woman we'll call

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Speaker 1: her Amy Amy Amy, she sucks on a dating website,

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Speaker 1: months after the separate separation with my mother. She had

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Speaker 1: no children of her own and her husband had died.

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Speaker 1: I'm unsure of how long ago. So first they seem

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Speaker 1: like a good fit. She was a bit odd, but honestly,

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Speaker 1: everyone in my family is, so I didn't think.

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Speaker 2: Much of it.

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Speaker 1: She'll fit everyone's odd, It's fine. At first she was

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Speaker 1: and I and my daughter for female, But over time

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Speaker 1: things became a bit off. Due to medical issues, she

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Speaker 1: they were able to help her out, and it quickly

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Speaker 1: became clear that she did not care about my brother.

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Speaker 1: She was rude, inconsiderate, demeaned him, and did her best

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Speaker 1: She was to be my father's main priority. It's her

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Speaker 1: way or no way. Anything she did to my brother

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Speaker 1: that my brother then related to our father, she denied

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Speaker 2: Oh, she sounds awful.

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Speaker 1: She's also overtaken and trashed the family home, leaving my

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Speaker 1: clean it himself. Due to this, I've never liked her,

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Speaker 1: but I've always played civil for my dad's sake while

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Speaker 1: being honest about how I felt with my brother. Now

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Speaker 1: Amy and my father are getting married next week.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, I do not drive.

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Speaker 1: My own fault.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't drive. It's my fault. It's never got

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Speaker 2: around here. I never got around to It's my fault.

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Speaker 1: And I've apologized to my father frequently for being a burden,

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Speaker 1: and has tried to find someone to drive us. Supposedly,

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Speaker 1: my aunt has been assigned this task. However, two days ago,

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Speaker 1: my husband received a call from my aunt's husband expressing

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Speaker 1: that he believed it was unsafe for my daughter to

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Speaker 1: attend the wedding is on a bridge.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, she could fall in wait, the aunt's husband.

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Speaker 1: So the aunt was supposed to reach out and take

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Speaker 1: your kid, your four year old can't be on a bridge.

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Speaker 2: No, can't let that happen.

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Speaker 1: So is he not gonna drive there? Interesting? I found

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Speaker 1: especially because he told my husband not to tell me

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Speaker 2: You can't handle them. I need some context about this

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Speaker 1: They're unsafe, it's probably structurally unsound. The four year old's gonna,

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Speaker 1: i don't know, fall off and.

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Speaker 2: Die dead, and then you don't have a four year old,

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a bummer for the wedding.

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Speaker 1: And the reason exactly they're gonna ruin the wedding and

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Speaker 2: Well, like, we have four kids, we can get rid

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Speaker 2: call on. I did break my voice at the con.

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Speaker 1: That is why it's a little bit tired today.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think it's for another reason.

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Speaker 1: I also had a party yesterday, but I think it

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a break. Yeah, not a weekend Saturday, so.

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Speaker 1: I had big con improv and then my birthday and

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Speaker 2: A little dead. But we will continue, we will push

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I didn't get sick. So but

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Speaker 1: people who got sick, where was I Ah? But I

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Speaker 1: my aunt's husband to be someone of good faith. That

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Speaker 1: has all been blown out the water. My brother has

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Speaker 1: texted me multiple times late at night to tell me

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Speaker 1: he's been listening in on Amy and my father's arguments.

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Speaker 1: Amy's nearly adamant on my daughter not attending and is

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Speaker 1: saying all of these issues are my fault for not driving.

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Speaker 1: I knew this would cause issues, which is why I

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Speaker 1: had repeatedly apologized to my father for being a burden.

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Speaker 1: My brother then told me my aunt was throwing a

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Speaker 1: call Sarah. Sarah is older and lives alone. What I

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Speaker 1: this is such? Okay? Hold on, I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: so many solutions to this one. Why does the husband

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Speaker 2: Also to drive? Who doesn't have to be on a bridge?

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Speaker 2: Does it have to be on a bridge? Three?

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Speaker 1: What about public transport? Why can't they just take the

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Speaker 2: If you live where I used to live there, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no no buses. No no buses. There is no bus

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Speaker 2: coming to my house. Damn, I live like fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: I feel like there are more solutions that they're not

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Speaker 2: True, I think.

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Speaker 1: That's the main issue. I think there are plenty of

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Speaker 1: the whatever her name is, Amy, I think she just

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Speaker 1: and I, oh, I read the pard Sarah spends so

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Speaker 1: Sarah's older and lives alone. Sarah spends tons of money

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Speaker 1: on my aunt, and my aunt knows this mooching offer

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Speaker 1: as much as she can. Sarah has offered to pay

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Speaker 1: for a hotel room for my aunt and her family.

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Speaker 1: The wedding is an hour from where we all live.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent of my aunt's business on who

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Speaker 1: she wants to drive. I won't slight her for that,

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Speaker 1: texted me this morning saying she won't drive my daughter,

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Speaker 2: She was really weird towards the brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is the This isn't Amy. Oh oh oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So there's right now, we've got a list of characters.

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Speaker 1: We have Amy, Opie's Dad's new like fiance who sucks.

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Speaker 1: We have the aunt who doesn't want to drive OP

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Speaker 1: who the aunt is driving. And that's where that's our

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm so real quick. Yes, would you guys

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Speaker 2: want a whiteboard for all the like complex stories like this?

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Speaker 2: We can get a whiteboard. Yeah, we can get a whiteboard.

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Speaker 1: And just Amy hates oh b the aunt hates OPI

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Speaker 1: Sarah is unrelated.

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Speaker 2: Related, Zarah. I'm here a mad hatter. Gal.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the ten bucks. Just wanted to wish

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Speaker 1: hope you have all the cake and tea your heart desires.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and thank you everyone else. He's

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Speaker 1: wishing me happy birthday in the chat. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: At a very good birthday weekend. Let's continue with this story, though,

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Speaker 1: La la la la la.

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Speaker 2: My husband and my mother.

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Speaker 1: My husband and my mother are now telling me I

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Speaker 1: as there's a whole group now working against my daughter

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Speaker 1: non negotiable as my daughter's mother. Everyone's adamance on her

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Speaker 1: not being there really bothers me. That, on top of

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Speaker 2: Feels like a terrible idea.

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Speaker 1: On top of all this, I am currently thirty two

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Speaker 1: and forth fighting and clear ulterior motives has me worked

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Speaker 2: Yikes. The best thing to do to wait if you

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Speaker 2: get stressed out? Can you induce pregnancy faster? Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is the best way to get a baby.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it would have to be. I guess

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Speaker 1: thirty two weeks is yeah, yeah, Oh, you're getting there.

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Speaker 2: It could work.

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Speaker 1: That would be a little bit. That would be a

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Speaker 2: How fast do you want to see your newborn? If

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Speaker 2: you want to see a newborn very quickly, then you

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Speaker 2: should participate in this as much as you can.

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Speaker 1: You should, Yeah, you should get really stopt No, but

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Speaker 2: She's getting Yes, I didn't say it was considerate. I

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Speaker 2: just said, how bad do you want to see it? Interesting? Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Doctor advice from medical advice from Miley.

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Speaker 2: I love my dad.

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Speaker 1: I want to support him, and I want him to

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Speaker 2: It make sense? Yeah, she's four. Okay, I do have

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Speaker 2: and dad always said it was uncle Dave. He's always

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I feel like Amy might just not like

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Speaker 2: That's why she had it on a bridge.

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Speaker 1: She's like a four year old would never come out

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Speaker 1: so it will. But if it was the aunt, her husband,

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Speaker 1: Sarah and Op and her daughter, usually there's five seats

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Speaker 1: then that wouldn't I feel like that's a very fair

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Speaker 2: Have cut butter on the same page as you. I

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get what they're being mean.

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Speaker 1: But let's get into these relevant comments and this update

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Speaker 1: and find out what the real.

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Speaker 2: Reason give me the answers.

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Speaker 1: The answer is relevant comments ope on her parents' age

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Speaker 1: when she was born. Opie says, my mother had me

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Speaker 1: at sixteen and my biological father was also sixteen. The

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Speaker 1: so let's get into it. I've decided not to attend

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Speaker 1: daughter's attendance is non negotiable. It's been a few months,

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Speaker 1: He went to his girlfriend's the day of and then

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Speaker 2: Anyone, it would be my brother. Stick together.

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Speaker 1: He proceeded to send me a very long paragraph about

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Speaker 2: That's kind of a weird blow to Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that that's not the way to get

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Speaker 2: The guilt tripping, yeah, yeah, literally just guilt tripping, though

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Speaker 1: No, how he stepped up for my brother and after

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Speaker 1: how he stepped up for my brother after my mom left,

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Speaker 1: when I know well and good he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he was saying how he.

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Speaker 1: Stepped up for the brother, but he didn't and that

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Speaker 1: Amy was the right woman for him despite everything. I

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Speaker 1: and I'm unsure why. I've since had my second daughter.

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Speaker 1: Everything went smoothly and she is perfectly healthy. Neither my

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Speaker 2: That's that's what you can't say.

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Speaker 1: That you've stepped up and then not even reach out

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, yeah, and he's still hurt. He's still hurt. Yeah, But.

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Speaker 1: Nah, that's messed up. That's messed up. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I'm ultimately unfazed. However, I can't deny

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Speaker 1: it's upsetting to lose contact with so much family over

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Speaker 1: something so trivial. I won't be reaching out first to

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can try and better connect with my

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Speaker 1: worry about him still living at home with our dad

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Speaker 1: I ask him how home life is and he just

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Speaker 1: kind of shrugs. Thank you to everyone who gave advice

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Speaker 1: curious about how it all ended, and there are some

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Speaker 2: It's all pretty fishy. Nothing's adding up. It's pretty fishy.

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Speaker 1: We don't know why they don't want Opie's daughter there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know who Sarah is and why the

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Speaker 1: know what's going on here. They just all kind of

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I believe yeah, because he's living I was wondering why

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Speaker 2: My brother's seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he can live with the mom though,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, brother was seventeen and then he was in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mmmmm mmm, very messy situation. Yeah, I also love

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Speaker 1: Bubble says texting Happy Birthday to a person you only

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Speaker 1: her Opie's sending her dad or her stepdad like a

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Speaker 2: Awkward. Word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are some relevant comments to finish up

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Speaker 1: this story, okay, OPI on if she didn't go to

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Speaker 2: Opie says, my.

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Speaker 1: Husband was working and has a long history of animosity

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to support their marriage if my brother

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Speaker 1: for sure my brother didn't go. I think the current

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Speaker 1: But then I had been fed excuse after excuse, as

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Speaker 1: well as dealing with so much BS, I didn't want

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Speaker 2: Anyways.

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Speaker 1: My dad did not tell me in advance our relationship

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Speaker 1: would be over. The non negotiable in question was told

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Speaker 1: the end. I want to know where you get the idea.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised, I said, that's that. That's the end of it.

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Speaker 1: This side of the family has long history of drama

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Speaker 1: so it isn't a surprise at all. I simply came

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Speaker 1: I couldn't care less at this point if they talked

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Speaker 1: to me or not. But it can still suck to

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00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: lose a connection with the family I was once very

440
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: close to, and then OPI on her relationship with her dad.

441
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: Opie says, I didn't bring up how he wasn't my

442
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: biodad as I've been told many times in the past

443
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: that he's my dad because my biodad is a pos

444
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: and I saw him as my dad since I was

445
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: two years old, which was why it was weird. It

446
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: seems like he was throwing it taking care of me

447
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: and my brother in our face. And that, Oaks, is

448
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: the end of that story.

449
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: End of that one, which I feel like we didn't.

450
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: Get any answers about why they didn't want the daughter

451
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: to come.

452
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it seems sad fallout.

453
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: It seems like a really sad, unnecessary fallout between this Yeah,

454
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: the father and op.

455
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: I think that.

456
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: I think that in the end, and what I'm taking

457
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: away from this story based off what we've learned, is

458
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: Amy did not want Opie to come because of you know,

459
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: they probably have that they have a fraught relationship op

460
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: He doesn't like the relationship between Amy and the dad

461
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: though Amy's probably I gotta water here and so did

462
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: whatever she could to keep her away, and I think

463
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: that was by saying.

464
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't want your daughter. Here is using your

465
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: four year old daughter who.

466
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: We have beef with, and then the dad is siding

467
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: with Amy over both of his kids, and now I

468
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: think maybe he's It seems like he was previously really

469
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: sold on like the like I am your dad and

470
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to treat you like my biological children. But

471
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: then when Amy came into the picture, kind of changed

472
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: that up and was like, well, you're my step kids,

473
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: and I you know I was doing you a favor

474
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: by stepping up. Yeah, not not great.

475
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: I need some conspiracy theory.

476
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me some kid. Throw some conspiracy theories. In

477
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: the chat about why we think that they didn't want

478
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: the four year old there, jac says he was deaf

479
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: throwing it in their faces. This story seems so unfinished

480
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: but sad.

481
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, do you think op may have left some stuff

482
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: out on her point of view?

483
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe because we didn't get we Okay, so we

484
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: learned that the reason the husband couldn't drive her is

485
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: because he was working. But I I think if that

486
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: were the main issue of like I need someone to

487
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: drive me, the husband could have yet uber if.

488
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: It's only an hour away.

489
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: It's an expensive uber, but maybe the husband could have

490
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: woke up early, or she could have stayed at like

491
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: a family member's house overnight so they.

492
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: Didn't have to drive in the morning. Yeah, there was

493
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 2: a lot of.

494
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: Solutions, and it seems.

495
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: Like they nobody wanted to nobody really tried.

496
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: No one tried, and I think that is kind of

497
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: the reason why this relationship isn't.

498
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Going to work out between the family members. Bumber bummer.

499
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: But let me read some donations about Ridley goes to

500
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Uh, Samantha, thank you for celebrating your three

501
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: months of membership. Happy birthday to a lovely queen, Sophia,

502
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: wishing you a birthday that's as wonderful as you are.

503
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: That's so sweet.

504
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Thank you and Uncle Daddy Jesse, thank you for the

505
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty five buck tip. Happy belated birthday, Sofia and Hi Riley,

506
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: thank you so much.

507
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: You guys are so sweet. I saw all of your.

508
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: Birthday texts and the discord and it was very nice.

509
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: But while Riley's gone, I'll tell you about my my So.

510
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: I had my birthday party last night with my friends

511
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: and it was a little renaissance, a little Renaissance birthday,

512
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: and I made everyone bring a talent and had a

513
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: little talent show that I oversaw and it was great.

514
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: Everyone brought like a funny little talent. We had some

515
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: some singers, we had some magic tricks. We had two jugglers.

516
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I highly recommend throwing a little Renaissance party.

517
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: It's quite fun.

518
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: Miriam says, I agree with you, Riley. I think something

519
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: may have been left out based on the reaction of

520
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: the brother. Yeah, something's something spishy and Matt Hatter Gal,

521
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: thank you for the five bucks. Hatter's money is probably

522
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: the wife didn't want the child there because she doesn't

523
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: want to be outshined some people.

524
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: So true, so true. I'm back. Riley is back. Are

525
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: you ready for the next door? Are you ready? Yes?

526
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: I lie them. She's not ready. Okay, let's do it.

527
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Okay, Riley's not ready. I'm sorry. It's Monday. Yeah.

528
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: We had a long weekend, long couple of days long. Yeah,

529
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: long week into weekend. I would say, boy, oh boy.

530
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: Like this. I don't know, it never looks like this.

531
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: What's nothing's wrong with it? Okay? Oh okay, all right,

532
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: let's let's get into it.

533
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Am I the a hole for completely canceling my

534
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: step daughter's birthday party?

535
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: Hmmm? Maybe maybe? Maybe? What if they had a renaissance

536
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: party and then we're just like, you're.

537
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Done, You're done, no more party for you. I would

538
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: be really sad. So Crafty row four seventy, says I

539
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: female forty three, broke up with my ex Charlie male

540
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: forty two last spring after finding out that he cheated

541
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: with his ex Sandy, female thirty four.

542
00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: Yikes.

543
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: We were together for three years in which I was

544
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: very committed. Which I was a very committed stepmother to

545
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: his kids. Sarah, female, seventeen. She and I never acted

546
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: like mother daughter, but I was the go to adult

547
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: when she had problems or needed anything because she had

548
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: She and her mom didn't get along, and my ex

549
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: would try to help, but his solutions weren't very effective.

550
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: Pep that age difference the ten years? Yeah? Well eight?

551
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: What eight years? Oh? I thought it was two? Yeah?

552
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: Thirty two?

553
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty four.

554
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think after thirty it's it's fine.

555
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: Depending on when, yeah, depending on when they started dating.

556
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

557
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: We were together for oh, I said that one and

558
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: a half years ago, I completed a very ambitious project

559
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: for a large company. I started getting paid for, but

560
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: bonuses and royalties only came in this year.

561
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: Upon launching, I was.

562
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: So happy and so grateful that I opened accounts for

563
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: my kids. I decided to give Sarah the birthday party

564
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: that she wanted. Her birthday falls in July, and she

565
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: wanted a pajama party for twenty five people with a

566
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: big bash, fancy cake, balloons, and a DJ.

567
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Okay, whoa, this seems like a great time.

568
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: That sounds like a great seventeenth birthday DJ DJ in pajamas. Yeah,

569
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: dance party, but you're your pajamas. That sounds amazing. That's

570
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: our next party, pajama party. We should have a pajama party.

571
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: I think that would be fun.

572
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'd be down.

573
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: So I set up a savings account under my main

574
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: bank account. Charlie ended up asking me to help him

575
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: fund a business idea, but I declined for a variety

576
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: of reasons. We were not married and I prefer to

577
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: go solo. His business idea sucked because he was inventing

578
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: the wheel. I would be finding everything. We ended up

579
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: having to close the conversation because he got angry and

580
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: said he needed a helpful partner by his side, and

581
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: I responded that I was taught to not give men

582
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: my money. I know I was harsh, and I apologized

583
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: at least idea. So the issue here is we have

584
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Op is funding or at least setting up her stepdaughter's

585
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: birthday party, and then her partner comes to her and

586
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: is like, Hey, I've got a business. I want to

587
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel, and I want you to fund it.

588
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, that's stupid, I'm not funding it.

589
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: And that's where we are interesting. Logan bad Wolf says,

590
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: dang Op, tell us how you really feel.

591
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the I was not not to give men money.

592
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a.

593
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: Funnier way of saying no to someone than your idea sucks. Yeah, like, sorry,

594
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I can't. You're a man, they can't give you money.

595
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: It's the rules.

596
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: My parents told me not to give money to women,

597
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: did they? Yeah? Does that sound worse?

598
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean what I feel like the context matters.

599
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Oh, well, her parents told her that. I think I

600
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: think she's lying. Oh, I don't know.

601
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I know I was harsh and I apologized. I began

602
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: to feel very insecure when Charlie started to criticize my

603
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: makeup and my personal style.

604
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: Ooh yikes.

605
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: And Don Mayflowers, wasn't it her ex partner? So no obligation?

606
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I believe this was this is her current partner. Oh no,

607
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: it's her ex. You're so right. Wait, her ex is

608
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: asking her for money?

609
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: What?

610
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, I'm totally yeah, I'm sorry. Uh yeah,

611
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: she got cheated on, and so her ex is coming

612
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: to her and asking for her partner, Don Mayflower, You're

613
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: so right. Why would she have obligation to give her

614
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: ex money? That makes no sense. That makes no sense.

615
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

616
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: He also praised the other women, other women to my face,

617
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: and I felt horrible. Early in the relationship, we had

618
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: issues because of his communication with Sarah is X, which

619
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: resulted him in him promising to cut her off.

620
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah.

621
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: Jacqueline Shanaa says, could this be before the cheating? It doesn't,

622
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't say it seems like it is after the

623
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: cheating that he asked for help.

624
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh one and a half years ago, I completed

625
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: very Yeah. I think that.

626
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Ope, he during the relationship was doing really well business wise,

627
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: and then I believe that.

628
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: Like.

629
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Up, it's It's somewhat unclear whether or not he asked

630
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: during the break, during or before the relationship broka, ummm,

631
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna we'll continue and maybe she'll clarify. Yeah, or

632
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: early in the relationship we had issues. Fast forward and

633
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: I began to notice that Sarah was very active in

634
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: his family social media. She gave likes and commented a lot.

635
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: So I asked him if they were still in contact,

636
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: because it just didn't make sense.

637
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: He denied it.

638
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: I went on a ten day business trip and our

639
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: communication was very off. He would only take my calls

640
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: until early in the night and became very vague about

641
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: his daily activities. I couldn't reach him at all for

642
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: two nights on several days apart. He sounded weird. He

643
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: sounded weird when we finally talked, so I lied about

644
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: having to delay my return date for a few days

645
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: and arrived one day earlier instead.

646
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: Uh oh.

647
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I came home to find condoms in the trash.

648
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: Ooh.

649
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: He also claimed to have been to his mother's house

650
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: until late. I said, I was sick. What were you

651
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: doing mother's house? I said, I was sick. When he

652
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: asked what was going on, and didn't mention anything, but

653
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: he rushed to take out the trash and to do

654
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: the law.

655
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Unbelievable laundry. Unbelievable the laundry.

656
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: You know what, if we're gonna cheat, you should have

657
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: disposed of the evidence because you left all of it

658
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: and now you're getting caught red handed. I got into

659
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: his phone.

660
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I know it's wrong. No, but you already know he's cheating.

661
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's wrong, but you already know he's cheating,

662
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: so it's yeah. My rule about that is it's going

663
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: to ruin your like, it's going prop your relationship. Yeah,

664
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: but if you already know they're cheating, then yeah, I

665
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: get in there.

666
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: Maybe he was getting really freaky with himself and that's

667
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: why he was being awkward, not um, I said, I've

668
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: been a bit of bit of he where was I.

669
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: I got into his phone. I know it's wrong, and

670
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: found hundreds of messages from his ex pictures, voicemails, and

671
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: conversation like they had never broke it up. He consulted

672
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: her about things, told her about his day, et cetera.

673
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Then I found a family chat that made me sick.

674
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: He Sarah and Sandy spent a whole two days at

675
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: a camping site last year when I went to visit family.

676
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and there were pictures from last Christmas

677
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: with his ex at his mother's house.

678
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: Wait, Sandy, who's Sandy? I have no idea who Sandy is,

679
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: but oh my god.

680
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Wait, so he was just dating both people at the

681
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: same time.

682
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

683
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: I want to know if the ex knows, if she

684
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: was ever actually an ex.

685
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: I doubt it, but she had to have.

686
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: You doubt that she knows or that she was ever

687
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: an ex, Like, do you think that.

688
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: The whole relationship continuing because they're married.

689
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: They're married, so she had to have known, like this

690
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: was her she had a step like she was caring

691
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: for a step daughter. I think that this ex Sarah

692
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: knew that they were married, but I think that. But yeah,

693
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: I think that she was just continuing it and she

694
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: didn't care. I can't believe that the mother hid this

695
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: like everyone it seemed like a lot of people were

696
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: in on it. And that's super messed up.

697
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

698
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for her for the ex slash of air

699
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: partner to come to Christmas.

700
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: Yikes.

701
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: Oh, Sandy's the step Oh my god, that's even worse.

702
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: That's even worse.

703
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: Oh, the seventeen year old, the seventh Sandy, the ex

704
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: quote unquote X and Opie's that at that point husband

705
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 4: went on a camping trip together, so they all knew.

706
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: Okay, they all knew.

707
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: Cancel that girl's cancel the party, sorry, cancel her party.

708
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Okay.

709
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: So I think this was a story within a story.

710
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: So it started off with u op like already broken up,

711
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and then she went back in time and was like,

712
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: this is how it happened.

713
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god.

714
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, dutchess Son says, the exs Sandy's mom, and Sandy

715
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: is the step daughter. Oh okay, you know what, I

716
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: feel like, I'm like slightly slightly misundered in the conversation.

717
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: This is messed up. However, I do slightly understand wanting

718
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: to spend time with your daughter as a family, so

719
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: that I think there was still I think there was

720
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: still cheating on that maybe Sandy knew about. Yeah, but

721
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: I think it it makes more sense for her to

722
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: be at gatherings. I don't know what do you think?

723
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: Do you think it?

724
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Do you think there that if you found out that

725
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: your husband's ex was attending Christmas and camping trips. Would

726
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: you consider that cheating? I guess if you didn't know,

727
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: it's if you didn't If.

728
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: You didn't know, it's cheating. Yeah. I'm just thinking of

729
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: it from the seventeen year olds perspective, because we've read

730
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: stories where like the kid knows, but they don't want

731
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: to say anything.

732
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

733
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't want my parents to be break up again,

734
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, so I would. I would honestly like

735
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: to see what the seventeen year old said, thanks, because

736
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't say anything.

737
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think I think this wouldn't have been

738
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: as much of an issue if OP had known about it.

739
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: If the ex was like, Hey, my daughter wants to

740
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: spend time with her mom. H so we're going to

741
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: do We're going to do like a camping trip and

742
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: stuff I needed. Okay, I'm sorry, Rsion, but I do

743
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: want to double check that this is if if.

744
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: I would want to go to that camping trip. Even

745
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: if they said that.

746
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: I feel like, why why wouldn't she be invited?

747
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to make sure.

748
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't specify that Sandy or Sarah is Sandy's mom,

749
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: though it doesn't say but they got together.

750
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: They got together three years ago and the wait, what's

751
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: the ex's name? Sandy? The ex's name is Sandy, it says,

752
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: and I was very kid Sarah.

753
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, this is okay. Pause pause. We have Sarah,

754
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: who is Opie's husband's ex who and Slash a fair partner.

755
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: We have Sandy, who is the daughter to Opie's husband

756
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: and stepdaughter to Opie. However, it is unclear whether or

757
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: not Sarah is Sandy's mother. Do not we were assuming,

758
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: but it does not actually say whether or not this

759
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: is her daughter. I am ninety percent short it is,

760
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: but it doesn't specify. I think if it is, it

761
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: makes slightly more sense why she's showing up to events.

762
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: I think I think still should have been told and

763
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: that is not okay. But if she's not, then it

764
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: makes zero sense why she's showing up to the events. Yeah, yeah,

765
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Marcia Van Warmer says, but why else would Sarah go

766
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: to Christmas at the family's house if she wasn't the

767
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: baby's Mamay? Yeah, yeah, I am focused.

768
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: This is just confusing that matter.

769
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Okay, We're gonna continue with the idea that Sarah is

770
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Sandy's mother.

771
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna go on that, all right. Where was I okay.

772
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: I got into his phone and found hundreds of messages.

773
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: Oh and they yeah, we read that. Obviously, he had

774
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: a full blown relationship behind my back, and his entire

775
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: family was aware of it. I directly confronted him and

776
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: tried to deny it until I laid one of the voicemails.

777
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: They listened to one of the voicemails. I think I

778
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: couldn't take the humiliation, so I moved out. Weeks later,

779
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I closed the bank account for the birthday bash and

780
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: kept the money for myself. I cut everyone off, including

781
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: his kid. He reached out in the last week of May.

782
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: He pleaded with me not to take away Sarah's birthday celebration.

783
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: I never replied. I know she's a teenager and that

784
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: she has no control over dad's actions, but she seems

785
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: awfully comfortable in her pictures with his ex, and I

786
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: feel extremely betrayed.

787
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: Also, there's no way in hell.

788
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: That I'm funding a party that I'm not going to

789
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: attend for obvious reasons, and I don't want to contribute

790
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: to a celebration so that his shitty family can eat

791
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: and drink on my dime. Sarah's mom always had separate

792
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: celebrations for her, and her gift was supposed to be

793
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: a camping trip. My ex's family cannot afford the celebration

794
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: unless they saved way in advance. My best friend says

795
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: that maybe I can send Sarah a gift if I

796
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: find it myself to forget find it in myself to

797
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: forgive her actions.

798
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like it.

799
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: His sister sent me a voicemail the other day asking

800
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: me to please don't turn my back on her niece.

801
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I feel awful because I know this was Sarah's dream,

802
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: but I'm too disgusted to back out for my decision.

803
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Am I the ale? And there is an edit to

804
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: confirm that the X was not Sarah's mom.

805
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: So Sandy was not Sarah's mom, and I do think

806
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I mixed up their names, so apologize apologies for that.

807
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: She's an ex girlfriend in much younger. Her mom is

808
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: also in her forties.

809
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Okay, that changes a lot.

810
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: Metaphorical whiteboard is happening right now. I'm sorry this was

811
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: a confusing story. We're getting a whiteboard.

812
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: We're getting a whiteboard.

813
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: Okay, we have Sarah, oh Pie's daughter, I mean ope.

814
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: Stepdaughter Sarah or Sandy. I did it was Sarah? It

815
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: was Sarah. I did mix up. I'm so sorry. I

816
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: need an editor.

817
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: Wait is this this is a recorded?

818
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

819
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: Editor, can you just whenever I say Sandy for this,

820
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: it's not. Oh, thank god, Okay, okay, this doesn't count,

821
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: thank god.

822
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

823
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: So Sarah is Op's step daughter. That was kind of

824
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: They shouldn't have made two s names.

825
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 2: That was confusing.

826
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Honestly, there's ope step daughter. Sandy is the cheating affair partner,

827
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: uh and not Sarah's mom.

828
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Okay, it does change everything, Marcia.

829
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: It does because now this like X is going to Christmas,

830
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: is going on camping trips with the step daughter, and

831
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. And so it feels like Sarah

832
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: was in on all of this, which in that case,

833
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: I understand why Op would not have wanted to fund

834
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: her birthday party. Yeah, very very ikes.

835
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: Can we do a poll? What do you want to do?

836
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: I want to do a poll and say, would you

837
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: have paid for the daughter's birthday?

838
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

839
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: Mariam says, wow, that makes it a hundred times worse. Yeah,

840
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: we were all operating under the impression of, like, oh,

841
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: this is her mom, So it kind of makes sense

842
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: why she would be there, But now it doesn't make

843
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: sense at all, and this is just a bunch of

844
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: cheating going on.

845
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, danky stinky tinky stinky.

846
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: Miriam, it's I believed Sandy was the child unless op

847
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: switched the names.

848
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: It seems like no Sandy.

849
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: I did double check Sandy is the ex, just to

850
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: just to clarify, Sandy is the ex and Sarah is

851
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: the child. Yeah, I yeah, the X is not the mom,

852
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: And there we have it.

853
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: The kids should have said something, Yeah yeah.

854
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Don Maythler says, but even if it was bio mom,

855
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: it's still out of order to hold that back from

856
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: op Absolutely absolutely, it would have still been unforgivable if

857
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: they were going on trips without Opie's knowledge. But I

858
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: think it's just it makes it all the more horrible

859
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: that this was an unrelated X and she had literally

860
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: no reason to be there.

861
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

862
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: Uh, jazz min Oh Jasmine says no, but I would

863
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: put more of the blame on the dad. It is

864
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: absolutely the dad's fault. But I think I would be

865
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: pretty pissed if a seventeen year old like who is

866
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: knowledgeable enough to know you know that something is wrong?

867
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: An adult?

868
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would be. I think it is

869
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: less a matter of punishing the daughter, more like I

870
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: just want to step out of this relationship.

871
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: Hey for the I want to know the pay for

872
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: the bet.

873
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I under understand why because they did a relationship.

874
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: But but I'm like, why would you fund I don't

875
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: think Yeah, I don't think I would fund a birthday

876
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: party for people. But actually, yeah, knew that they h

877
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: it died exactly. Everyone knew that Opi was being cheated

878
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: on and we're doing all the stuff behind her back,

879
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: and then expected her to fund their lives. Like OPI

880
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: was expected to fund the birthday, Opie was expected to

881
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: fund a business business venture all for like people that

882
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: were cheating on her and you know, being awful to.

883
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: The only way I would pay for the seventeen year

884
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: old thing is if like, uh, yes, they did hide

885
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: it from me, but they felt really bad and they

886
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: were like like the other kids. They were like I

887
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: didn't want you guys to break up, and I didn't

888
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: know how to like really you know, bill about her

889
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: or whatever. But in the in the pictures, she Opie said,

890
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: they look comfortable.

891
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah oof, yeah, which is yeah, messie, Yeah.

892
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: I say not the a Hill, I Sayny says.

893
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: Opie doesn't owe these people anything. I agree, I agree,

894
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Uh and nonsense not punishing the daughter, but you know

895
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: she wasn't going to do anything until after her after

896
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: he she paid for the party. I think, oh, wasn't

897
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: going to say anything. Yeah maybe maybe Uh Sarah, the

898
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: daughter was like, oh, well, maybe I'll bring it up

899
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: to her after my party happens, because I don't wanna.

900
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to jeopardize my party, which is still

901
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: pretty messed up. Uh.

902
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: Socrates says the stepdaughter is probably confused at this point

903
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: teaching the child. Sarah is still a child, probably grew

904
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: up thinking that family oriented stuff. Was this happened this way,

905
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: that this was normal and okay?

906
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: For sure?

907
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: For sure, But I think I think in the end

908
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: it was To me, it seems like it was less

909
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: about punishing like Opie punishing the daughter and more about just.

910
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: Stepping away from the family.

911
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

912
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: And I think the only thing that would make op

913
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: maybe angel and this story is going to the father

914
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: and being like hey, but giving a little bit of

915
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: prep time and being like, hey, I'm not going to

916
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: pay for this. If you want to pay me back,

917
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: that can happen. But otherwise I'm going to.

918
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: Get a refundel all these things.

919
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: I think that would be the only thing that would

920
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: be like Angel.

921
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: But she doesn't. She doesn't. She has the right to be,

922
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 2: she has the right to be. Agree. I agree, Yes,

923
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: that is the whole story.

924
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: Ah, it was a little bit confusing, but now we

925
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: know what's going on. And now I'm going to read

926
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: some of your donation.

927
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: Let's go woo. I think we read that one.

928
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Coffee Girl, thank you for celebrating three months of membership.

929
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Sophia hailed to the worm queen.

930
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

931
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, and Gabe Elijah, thank you for celebrating your

932
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: three months of membership as well. Thank you for the

933
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: gifted memberships. And happy birthday, Sophia. How's John? How is

934
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: VI gone? Sophia and Riley are my favorite combo. Love

935
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: you all, Love you too, Gabe John as well?

936
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: John is.

937
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: Many days without symptoms? Weird chilling now done? Died John?

938
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I lied. I lied to cover it up.

939
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: You're not gonna see him. He's gone, He's gone. Yuki Cross,

940
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: thank you for the twenty bucks. Happy birthday, Sophie, and

941
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Okayop for entertaining me with other

942
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: people's drama while I'm working truly makes my love me

943
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: love my life. I love you guys.

944
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do enjoy this drama because, like I like,

945
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: don't like to hear real live drama at the end

946
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: of the day.

947
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want I don't want drama in my life.

948
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: I just want other people to have drama me to

949
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: read it. Yeah, and Alan Foster, thank you for the

950
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: five bucks. The X was never an ex. Apparently Opie

951
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: just found out she was the mistress and never knew

952
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: everyone else knew. That's what I think. Katrina Cockranac says,

953
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I would put stipulations on paying for it, and his

954
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: family wouldn't be there, just her friends so I could

955
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: be there.

956
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: I'm petty. Oh that's why they would pay for it. Yeah,

957
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: that's the only person that said they'd pay for it. Yeah,

958
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: I see um.

959
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: And love Bubble says, sorry, I was on a phone

960
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: call and missed all of that. She dropped him faster

961
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: than ice cream melts in the hot summer heat.

962
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: Whoa. Yeah.

963
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: But also, I mean, like when you find out that

964
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: your ex is that your husband is cheating on you,

965
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: with his ex and everyone knew.

966
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: I I feel like dropping them quick is the best

967
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: thing is Yeah.

968
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Also, you're so right, Josephine. I don't know what okaop

969
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: is uki cross. I only knows. Okay, Sorry, time love

970
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: Bubble says, Oh snap, please tell.

971
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: Me they didn't have a baby. They did not. They

972
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: did not, They did not.

973
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was able to cut ties, lean or as

974
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: cleanly as this such situation allows.

975
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the end of that very complicated story. Yeah,

976
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: let me let me go downstairs. Well, so they were

977
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: gonna come in as Johnavan's gonna come in, but maybe

978
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: in a second. Okay, but I'm just gonna go check

979
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: on him. Yeah, check it, give him a little try.

980
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: I'll talk about big con. Yeah.

981
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: So Vive Gone was super fun. This was my first

982
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: VidCon ever, so I didn't really know what to expect,

983
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: but we there was so the badges that we got

984
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: for being creators.

985
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Let us go.

986
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: There's a couple of different like creator lounges that you

987
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: can go to in the hotel next near the convention. Uh.

988
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: And so there was like an Instagram lounge and a

989
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: YouTube lounge, and you got a lot of like free

990
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: swag which was awesome, and it's it's interesting because it's

991
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: kind of like you, I don't know, you're seeing all

992
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: of these creators that you watch, and but you're not

993
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: a let Like it's not like a meet and greet

994
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: because you can't really fangirl about.

995
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 2: It because you have.

996
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: To be professional. You're like, oh, I am here as

997
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: a creator. I can't go up and ask for pictures

998
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: with all these people. So I would see people and

999
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: be like, oh, oh, I'm so chill, so chill right now.

1000
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: But I did get to talk to a lot of

1001
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: people that I love and I've been watching for a while.

1002
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: Like Sam and I talked to John Green and that

1003
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: was we talked to him like twenty minutes. We were

1004
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: talking to him and his daughter, and he was so nice, genuinely,

1005
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: like very nice man, Sam and I made him laugh.

1006
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: That was pretty sick. Yeah, No, we talked to him

1007
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes. Lovely, lovely man. I feel like

1008
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: I haven't I don't know. I feel like I haven't

1009
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: heard of bad interactions with him. He seems like just

1010
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: a genuinely really nice guy. Who else did I we

1011
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: We talked to Charlotte Dobray, who was also very nice.

1012
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a lot of other a lot of other

1013
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: people we went to it.

1014
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: There was a lot of fun, like a lot of

1015
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: fun Vidcoon parties happening every night, and so I was

1016
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: always constantly tired because we were always out quite late

1017
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: at these parties.

1018
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ana Banana. We saw Charlotte Doebray. We did,

1019
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: we did.

1020
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: I got our Instagram, Yeah, Riley got our Instagram. What

1021
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: was I gonna say?

1022
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: Oh at one of these.

1023
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: So there was a TikTok party that we did not

1024
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: We weren't on the list for. We weren't on the

1025
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: list for it, and so we were like, uh, are

1026
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: we going to be able to get into this party

1027
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: because it seems like maybe they might be pretty strict.

1028
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: We had no clue.

1029
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: We had no clue, and so we went. We waited

1030
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: in this really long line and then got up to

1031
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: where they were. We were behind Smashed the whole time.

1032
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's one person from Smash who I

1033
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: really love because of like other things that they've done

1034
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: outside of Smash. And I saw her. I saw her

1035
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: earlier and she was wearing a really cool shirt and

1036
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to be really chill, and so I was like, hey,

1037
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: love your top, and then I just went and she

1038
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: was like thank you, and I moved on. And then

1039
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: we were standing behind her in this line and I

1040
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you had that nice talk earlier and

1041
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: she was like what, oh yeah, thanks, And that was

1042
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: the entirety of our conversation. And I was like, well nice, yeah,

1043
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: but you know what, I whatever, I had other great introactions.

1044
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: She was still very nice. I just was very awkward.

1045
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned I did. I did. Yeah. We talked to John.

1046
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Riley was also talking to It was Sam

1047
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: Riley and I.

1048
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told about the sawmill, John Green, Dutchess, Cauzana.

1049
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: We didn't really talk to. Smash were too cool to talk.

1050
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: Well, they had their own group. I think because it's

1051
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 1: so big. I feel like they kind of orbited around

1052
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: like their friends, which is totally fair. But yeah, no,

1053
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: they were pretty they they we didn't get to really

1054
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: talk to them. But anyway, so we got to this

1055
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: TikTok party and we got up to the line and

1056
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: the people checking in they said, what's the name for

1057
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: the list? And Sam just immediately acted like.

1058
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: He was on the list.

1059
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: He was like, oh damn daughter, And then they asked

1060
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: for the email and he provided it and somehow he

1061
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: was on the list.

1062
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird.

1063
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: I didn't understand. And then he got a plus one

1064
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: but there were It was Riley and I. So we

1065
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: were like, okay, let's try our names too, and so

1066
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: all of us ended up being on the list. I

1067
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: don't know why.

1068
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: I think for this you did.

1069
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: But none of all of our RSVPs were pending unless

1070
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: they approved of all of it. Yeah, but but yeah,

1071
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: So we got into this TikTok party and I saw

1072
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of the gaming creators that I love, and

1073
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: it was so weird because I was.

1074
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: Talking to this girl who I didn't know.

1075
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: We were just having a conversation, and then all of

1076
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: it apparently she was a gaming creator, and then all

1077
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: of these other gaming creators that I watched for years

1078
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: started coming up to her.

1079
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, that was fun. Yeah, yeah,

1080
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: that was that was part of me. I saw like

1081
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: some of my funny, funny TikTok people, and I saw

1082
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: one dude I really want to talk to, but it's

1083
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: too cool. Yeah, Juliano.

1084
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw. I saw Tommy in it walk past.

1085
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I didn't talk time, he just walked past me.

1086
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. YouTube, world's crazy, it's crazy.

1087
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: I think it was just interesting to see these people

1088
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: that I watched like walk around me.

1089
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1090
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: Not even I didn't even get to interact with them.

1091
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: They were just you know, uh no, it was like

1092
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: it was like the Tommy in It Tabo. Uh uh

1093
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: what's her name?

1094
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: Uh?

1095
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting her name. It starts with an end. Uh

1096
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Nietsch is that her name? I think it was like

1097
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: that group.

1098
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

1099
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: It's all of like Minecraft gamers that I watch. Oh yeah,

1100
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: but yeah that was vid Con.

1101
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: That was n Yeah yeah, m another story. Yeah, let's

1102
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: get into another story. I try to find John. He

1103
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: is not here. He's not here. I hear his voice.

1104
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh he's not here.

1105
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: Intriguing, intriguing. I really needed to to bring like me

1106
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: some he you need.

1107
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Some tea, some money, whatever whatever. John gets here the

1108
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 2: Celtic kit, I don't.

1109
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he saw Matt Pat. I didn't see

1110
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: mat Pat.

1111
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: I didn't see him. I don't think I know what mattens.

1112
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know what he is. But I don't

1113
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: think I know what Matt pats. I try to like

1114
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: be as so oblivious about like same like YouTubers. So

1115
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: someone in like freak out.

1116
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Matt Pad Yeah, okay, we did not see

1117
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Matt Pad.

1118
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: I was trying to be so.

1119
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: Chill the whole time, like I was just like, I

1120
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: don't know anyone here.

1121
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did work. I didn't fangirl once.

1122
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm a fangirl, never gonna fangirl again. I didn't fink.

1123
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: I think the closest I got to van girling was

1124
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: with one of the people from Smash. But even that

1125
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't fan girl. I was just like

1126
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: trying to talk to her and fail.

1127
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: But a story like that because I did too. You

1128
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: did that as well, well, the guy Spotify, the guy

1129
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: did Zach from drop Out podcast or whatever.

1130
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: Oh at the Spotify event or I think you meant.

1131
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: I remember that.

1132
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Love Bubble says, So why weren't you allowed to fangirl

1133
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: room of pros or not? I'm a love who I love.

1134
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't a matter of like you can't fan girl.

1135
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just when you're in that professional space,

1136
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of it would have been kind of weird

1137
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: to do that. I guess, like there's I think there's

1138
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: an element of fangirling, but you can't just I feel

1139
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: like it would have been awkward to go up and

1140
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, a picture with you.

1141
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like after we talked John Green, I wasn't gonna

1142
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: be like yeah, no, I think I think it was.

1143
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I think it is also more fun to have a

1144
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: conversation as more of equals than of going up and

1145
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: being like I love you and then leaving.

1146
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: Wait Bridge it shout out bridget Yes, yeah, yeah, it

1147
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: was awesome. Yeah, no, she was really nice. Yeah.

1148
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: I think that was the only person that we met, uh,

1149
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: one of you guys at the thing, but it was.

1150
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really it was such oh my gosh.

1151
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: It was such a like fresher breath there. To see

1152
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: one of the fans there, they're like, oh my gosh,

1153
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, did you say fresher breather there? What you said?

1154
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: Fresher breath there?

1155
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: Such a breath fresh air. Oh sorry, it's okay, but yeah, yeah,

1156
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was great. It was awesome. Yeah itself.

1157
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Bob, I don't want to call myself out,

1158
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to tell you which one it was.

1159
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: You just have to know that it was from someone

1160
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: what hey quiet? But no, they were all very nice.

1161
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: I just didn't get to talk to them.

1162
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: But let's get into this next story now that we

1163
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: had a vidcoon back. All right, my wife left me

1164
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: after she got in shape and now wants to get

1165
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: back together.

1166
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: There's no cons here. Why left you? She's looking better,

1167
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: gave you some time to like explore live. Now she

1168
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: wants to get back together. Yeah that's like good. No, no,

1169
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't agree. Yeah this is great.

1170
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't agree if someone if someone is like doesn't

1171
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: love you for who you are and just loves you

1172
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: because you know, other people are like, oh you're looking

1173
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: good now it's kind of messed up.

1174
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, oh hell yeah. Guess what. We're gonna

1175
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: start this from the top in the area. Gonna start

1176
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: this from the top.

1177
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 1: Got it from the top, make it drop.

1178
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: You gotta move, so feel you're gonna move. Oh oh,

1179
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: guess who is here? It is rightful, Watch up, you

1180
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: beautiful people. He's back from the dam. It's you, guys.

1181
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 5: I missed you, guys.

1182
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: And then after this, I'm kicking Sophia out. Yeah I'm

1183
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: forcing you to take a break. Yeah that's right, you are.

1184
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: You're going to be forced to stop and then like

1185
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: eat some lunch and drink some water.

1186
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, that's right. Yeah, for a whole for

1187
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: a whole hour.

1188
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: Okay, minus something that it text you but to do,

1189
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 3: but other than that, it's it's forced break for you. Okay, okay, anyways,

1190
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: all right, what's up?

1191
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: So? Yeah, we got it.

1192
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 5: We got a story reading, catch me, catch me up

1193
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 5: to speed?

1194
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are we doing? Oh we haven't really we

1195
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: just started. We just read the title. Just started. Yeah.

1196
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: We were talking about VidCon, which which John will also

1197
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: need to be told about.

1198
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: Tragic, tragically sad truth of what happened, which was, Uh,

1199
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: I got sick, guys, I was dying.

1200
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: I actually wasn't dying at all. I wasn't dying.

1201
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: I think it's worse when when you're sick but and

1202
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: you're fine, but.

1203
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 3: You can't go because you're like, oh I can't, like

1204
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: I can't even get up like I have.

1205
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even want to go.

1206
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: But I was like perfectly ready, you know, run through

1207
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 3: the conference floor.

1208
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody.

1209
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I got the VID like to no last year,

1210
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: and I had symptoms for a day and then I

1211
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: was fine. But I couldn't lean for ten days, and

1212
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: you know what, like school stuff.

1213
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: I caught it at vid Con last year. No, yes,

1214
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 3: it is cursed. But next year you don't even understand.

1215
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to be full hasmat. Yeah, you don't even

1216
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: You don't even.

1217
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Days prior to vid gone, John, It's not gonna be

1218
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: gone anywhere.

1219
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you won't see me? Who with John Cena?

1220
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 5: Where is he not?

1221
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: John Cena? John c Ya can Wow?

1222
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: Now that's some improv gold right there. You know what

1223
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm thinking about just forcing you to take your

1224
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: break right now?

1225
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: Whoa? I'm just straight up You've only read a title.

1226
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: I've only read a title.

1227
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 5: I think I think I should force you to leave

1228
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 5: and take a break.

1229
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: That's right.

1230
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: I know you hate me, hate me all you want

1231
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: hate me, but get out of here, get out of

1232
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: my face. Okay, I'll leave the Pride Lands and never return,

1233
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: all right, Riley.

1234
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: Look dude, let's five eighty five. Let's go.

1235
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 5: What's up everyone? Thank you for all the well wishes.

1236
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: By the way, I saw you guys as sweet messages

1237
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: in the discord.

1238
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 5: Let's freaking go. We love to see it.

1239
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: Checking Don Mayflower watched thor Ragnock last night, John walks

1240
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: in with the hair, and now I got the soundtrack

1241
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: going round in my head. I do need some like

1242
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: freaking like superhero soundtrack.

1243
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: Vibes going on. Honestly, guys, if.

1244
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: Anyone wants to, if anyone wants to compose a soundtrack

1245
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 3: for some superhero themed vibes, then there we go. George

1246
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: Taylor exactly. I don't want the stream tay and down.

1247
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: But just read George Taylor's comment right there, and uh,

1248
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: that's that's accurate. That's actual freaking George.

1249
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to you, George, all right to do a

1250
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: different episode?

1251
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 5: Uh oh, different episode?

1252
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Pick ooh naughty? What else we got? Oh we got,

1253
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: we got, we got plenty, we got plenty.

1254
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: Brother, mister che gab Elijah and everyone in the chat,

1255
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: thank you for your well wishes.

1256
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: Also, we can turn on the AC if you want.

1257
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: We can really yeah, we can pump a little AC. Dude, Yes,

1258
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: I would love that. Sophia Ac.

1259
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: You said she does, Uh oh you just that few

1260
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: degrees like sixty nine degrees no, no, no, three three

1261
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: degrees lower than our current temperature start with.

1262
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: That's got it, He's got it. She can figure it out.

1263
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: She's so smart. Did we wish we Yeah, we did

1264
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: wish warm queen, Happy birthday.

1265
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah we did go well we did. We just said

1266
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: good job of turning twenty three. B that's all I said.

1267
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 3: A good job you survived, you didn't congratulations.

1268
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: The funniest thing happened this morning. She had a drink

1269
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: and I thought it was like a seltzer and I

1270
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: was like, yo, you good dogs and she's like, what

1271
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: do you mean. I'm like, I know you just turned

1272
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: twenty three, but you don't have to do this. Yeah.

1273
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, this is a sparkling water. And

1274
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my bad.

1275
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 5: You see where I was. Mind is in the gutter?

1276
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: Bad. Yeah, I didn't know that was probably I probably

1277
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: would have thought the same thing. It was shocking.

1278
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: But what what should we read to the good people?

1279
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: Rightley? The same one?

1280
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: There's a same one as two that there it is

1281
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 3: now perfect? I see ah and there you go? Whoa,

1282
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: there we go? Absolutely beautiful.

1283
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: All right, ladies, John, Let's give you what you came for.

1284
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1285
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: My ex husband wants to get back together with me

1286
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 3: after he cheated on me ten years ago.

1287
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: Should I got some time you got time to think

1288
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: about it.

1289
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 5: And is this answering a question? Maybe it's not.

1290
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: But this comes from throwaway ninety sixty seven, who says,

1291
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: my thirty eight female ex thirty seven male who will

1292
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 3: call Mike and I were together since we were fourteen

1293
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: years old.

1294
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: And got married at twenty two. Wow, dang, yeah, there

1295
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: you go.

1296
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 3: We have two kids together, fifteen male and fifteen female

1297
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 3: and eleven male. My ex's work takes him all over

1298
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: the country for a week every quarter. In one of

1299
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: those trips, he hooked up with one of his coworkers.

1300
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: I never thought he could do something like that because

1301
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: our relationship was really solid. He could fess immediately after

1302
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: he got home. I actually would have never found out

1303
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: if he did. He begged me for my forgiveness and

1304
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 3: said that he still loved me and it was a

1305
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: lapse in judgment, but said he would understand if I

1306
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: wanted a divorce.

1307
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: Okay, oh wait, yeah, okay. Out of all the cheaters,

1308
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: this is like, this is.

1309
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like like still you're still you're still a cheater,

1310
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: still cheater, but like in the camp of cheaters, one

1311
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: of the better cheaters.

1312
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, bad murderers and then you have bad

1313
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: murders like okay murderers. Yeah, yeah, he's in the okay category.

1314
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, could you say we're in the okay category considering

1315
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: our show and branding unintentional group lumping. But but defendish

1316
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: that thought. There is a juicy sentencending running it back.

1317
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: He made me for forgiveness, said uh, he still loved

1318
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: me and it was a lapse in judgment, but said

1319
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: he would understand if I wanted a divorce, which is

1320
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 3: what eventually happened, went through with it. It was very

1321
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 3: amicable and he actually gave me more than I expected

1322
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 3: house child sport alimony. I mean, is this a W cheater?

1323
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 3: Is he a W for a cheater? Like he chat

1324
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 3: he get a poll?

1325
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is he a W cheater?

1326
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 3: And while Riley puts that up just to be just

1327
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 3: to clarify, obviously, cheating is wrong and you and you

1328
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 3: suck if you cheat. But for a cheater, is he good?

1329
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 3: That's or or you know, okay, that's what we're trying

1330
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 3: to figure out with his pole like he he.

1331
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: Did wrong and he's taken his consequences.

1332
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: He did wrong, and he's like trying to, you know,

1333
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: do better. I guess, But he's still a cheater though.

1334
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: That's things still cheated. So but let's let's see what

1335
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 3: you guys, you guys have to say. So this was

1336
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: a slow process, but over the years we became friends

1337
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 3: again and we have a good co parenting dynamic. Mike

1338
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: is a great father and the kids still love him.

1339
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: I got married three years after and he was actually

1340
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 3: very supportive. I divorced my second husband two years ago.

1341
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: Bro oh oh, PK catch a break, horror man, because

1342
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: he changed his mind on kids. I want one last baby. Wow,

1343
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 3: that's that's the saddest thing ever.

1344
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: That sucks. That sucks.

1345
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 3: Since the lockdown, Mike has been over frequently. At this point,

1346
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: our relationship is so good we don't need to enforce

1347
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: any of the set business and such. Well, things have

1348
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: been getting hot between us over the last few months

1349
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 3: and we started spicy sleeping.

1350
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, what do we think? Is this?

1351
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: Is this? I mean, she won't say that last kid?

1352
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: Do you she cheat? That's true?

1353
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 5: What if are the maternal instincts?

1354
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: Mama Bear's coming out trying to get that final baby

1355
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: cup in the pack.

1356
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 5: Also, everyone's still saying bad cheater.

1357
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: Well wait, wait, say good cheatery nine and I think

1358
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: one of all the cheaters we've seen, this is one

1359
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: of the good ones. But I think one could make

1360
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: the argument like all cheaters are bad cheaters, like a

1361
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: murders are bad murders.

1362
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 3: You know.

1363
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 2: So it's like it's I you still you still cheated?

1364
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: You still you still did the did the deed?

1365
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: So which is I think a super solid are you?

1366
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: In all freaking fairness? I think this is all what

1367
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: are you? But like if someone cheated on me, I

1368
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: would want this to happen to be.

1369
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: That's yes, yeah, honestly, that's you know, great points are

1370
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 3: being brought up all around. Great points are being brought

1371
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: up all around. Now I am a woman with needs

1372
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: to and to be honest with you guys. He is

1373
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 3: still the best guy I've been with after all these years.

1374
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's like our bodies each other. Well they've

1375
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: been together for like since are fourteen, so like low

1376
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 3: key through all the puberty and stuff. They could have

1377
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: coded their bodies to be for each other. They know

1378
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 3: each other's back, I mean, you know everything, which makes sense.

1379
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: He's always jokes that that we were prime like Pippin

1380
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: and Jordan in bed and when he said that again. Yes, Riley, yeah,

1381
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 3: basketball is on the pod.

1382
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: Now are you happy I show it would a better

1383
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: view like the Splash Bros. Or something like that. Oh true,

1384
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: yeah soaked? Oh man, soaked like Carl Malone and John Stockton. Actually,

1385
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: that one's a really bad one. I was not picking

1386
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: out the analogy here. Some of you will know about Carl.

1387
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: There you go, compable if you do.

1388
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,759
Speaker 3: Now it felt like we were back ten years ago

1389
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: when we were still together. It was supposed to be

1390
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: just physical, but here we are just a few hours ago.

1391
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 3: He brought up the idea of us getting back together.

1392
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: He gave me the most genuine speech about how stupid

1393
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: the night was after he cheated, and how he never

1394
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: stopped loving me in the last ten years. I was

1395
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: speechless and I couldn't say anything. So he just gave

1396
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 3: me his usual toothy smile, Chip Skylark style and said,

1397
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: it's okay, I'll wait before driving home. Hottest thing ever

1398
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 3: to say in that in that scenario. Now I'm lying

1399
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 3: in bed typing this out, I'd be lying. I'd be

1400
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,440
Speaker 3: lying to you guys if I said I didn't love him. Oh,

1401
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I said in the last few

1402
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 3: months weren't the happiest I've been in years.

1403
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh, and I would.

1404
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: Be lying if I said I And I would be

1405
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 3: lying if I said I never forgave him for cheating.

1406
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: I told him years ago that I already did.

1407
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: Wait a second, let me make sure I'm getting that

1408
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 3: many and I'd be lying if I said, Oh, I

1409
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: never for forgive forgave him for cheating. So she's she

1410
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: did forgive him for cheating. He's like if I'd be

1411
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 3: lying because I did forgive him.

1412
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: You know I can't. I can't act like I didn't.

1413
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: I told him years ago that I already did.

1414
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: If I decided right now, I'd jump out of bed

1415
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 3: and drive to his house and bring him home. It's

1416
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 3: taking all my willpower not to do so. I love him, However,

1417
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 3: I also want to think with my brain here some

1418
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 3: prose of taking him back. We're listening out. He's a

1419
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 3: great dad and the kids would have him around more nice.

1420
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: Two.

1421
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: He's a great provider. Got that bag, got that bag.

1422
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: Three he says he still wants to have kids. He's

1423
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: got that sack.

1424
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: WHOA four. I still love him.

1425
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 3: That's the pro that's the pros cons and I don't

1426
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 3: know yet, but maybe some of you can help me

1427
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: with that. Oh there are no cons, no CODs, well

1428
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 3: actually there are oh wait oh yeah, that's it.

1429
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 5: Any advice on how I should proceed?

1430
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: Edit.

1431
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 3: I made the first move and we started sleeping together.

1432
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, We have an update. Very first, we

1433
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 3: have to get a breakdown and get some get some

1434
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: uh comments from the chat which, by the way, we

1435
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,879
Speaker 3: ended the poll totally shifted forty percent.

1436
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 5: Now we're almost split.

1437
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 3: Forty percent say good cheater and sixty percent say bad cheat.

1438
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: You can change it. If you type the number, it

1439
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:47,440
Speaker 2: will reregister.

1440
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: That's that's a good point. Yeah, so if you if

1441
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: you speak now, forever hold your peace. We're about to

1442
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: end it in this in this breakdown. But uh, let's

1443
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 3: let's talk, Riley. Let's let's let's a down, partner.

1444
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you got some thoughts, Yeah, talk to me.

1445
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: Here we go, go, Here we go. Sadly, Sam is

1446
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: not here to back me up. But how long were

1447
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: they together? Dude?

1448
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 3: Lightly if we're going Sam's golden rules, dude, they were two.

1449
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: Kids and they were together for like about ten years.

1450
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me give you the time, the amount of

1451
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 3: time they were together before the cheating happened. So they

1452
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 3: got together at fourteen and where was this in worker

1453
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: in one of those trips, I got married at twenty two.

1454
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: I mean they were at least together. Well here, let's

1455
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 3: say this, but just by the time they got married.

1456
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: And it seems that this took place way after they

1457
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 3: were married. They were together for eight years before they

1458
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: were even married, which means by Sam's golden rules, he

1459
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 3: had already earned two passes.

1460
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 2: Jacy says, don't do it. Faith Tram says he cheated.

1461
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: That's a god.

1462
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: Sophia Collan says cheating makes their relationship stronger. In a

1463
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: I already know, Sophia Ala, I know it's sarcastic.

1464
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: I know she's being sarcastic right now. Uh you know.

1465
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: I I think given all that's happened in the time,

1466
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 3: I will say, it seems like their relationship and level

1467
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: of maturity, if Op he does pace it like she

1468
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 3: is forcing herself to do, I think it could be good.

1469
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: And if anything, he's like on his p's and q's

1470
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 3: for the rest of his life. And you know, ultimately

1471
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: it is it's truly Op's decision because he cheated, you know,

1472
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 3: he did, he did the wrong and if op he

1473
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: feels in her heart, soul and mind that hey, this

1474
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: is actually gonna be This is actually what I want,

1475
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: and it is going to be best case scenario for

1476
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 3: me and for our kids and for him and for

1477
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: our relationship, you know, romantic or not. I mean, more

1478
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: power to her at the end of the day, if

1479
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 3: she wants to do that.

1480
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 2: I think another thing is there's not a lot of

1481
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: options where she is, and this option is in front

1482
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: of her, so she's like, all right, I want to

1483
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: give this guy another chance.

1484
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 3: It is there is something to be said for the

1485
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 3: like later in life. And I've talked with older people

1486
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: about this of where they're like, you know, if they're

1487
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 3: if they're for instance, if they're like, hey, I could

1488
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: go find someone else with their own Like at my age,

1489
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 3: they probably have their own kids. Their own baggage is

1490
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 3: their own X and co parent they're dealing with, you know,

1491
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: Do I just try and stay with my original partner

1492
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: and make it work. That's low key kind of easier

1493
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 3: because there's like less we have the same baggage, you know,

1494
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: instead of instead of different baggage.

1495
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: Pooh, I don't know why, but I'm leaning towards like

1496
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: get back together. It just seems it just seems really

1497
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: happy and really good for her. I don't know why, yeah,

1498
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: and and and he did cheat, but like, I don't know, it's.

1499
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 3: I think I mean, like, look that that's that's a

1500
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: huge breach of trust and for some people something that

1501
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: they can never come back from. Jac makes the point,

1502
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, he's not the only man that would treat

1503
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: you in your kids, right, which is like, also, it's

1504
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 3: totally true. I think like there's there's always uh, there's

1505
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: plenty of fish in the sea, as they say, I

1506
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 3: think I think if Op feels strongly, maybe maybe the

1507
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: move here is they do a trial relationship where she's like,

1508
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 3: you know, I need to be sure, like I want this,

1509
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 3: but I need to be sure that you are never

1510
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: going to do this to me again, and and and

1511
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 3: that this fact sinks in with you, and that fact

1512
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: is you will always like kind of have this hovering

1513
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 3: over us, you know, like I don't think it'll ever

1514
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: go away, even though I forgive you for it. If

1515
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 3: if that's how she feels, which it kind of I

1516
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 3: feel like if she didn't feel that way, she would

1517
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: have just gotten back in immediately, right, Yeah, like there'll

1518
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 3: there will forever be this like little caveat or this

1519
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 3: thing like on the shelf. But as long as it

1520
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 3: doesn't get pulled out and you know, I don't know,

1521
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: get a prenup, pull another poll.

1522
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, get back together. That's exactly what we need. Thank you,

1523
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: producer Riley, thank you, big proaching. Paula Torell says, prenuptial. Yeah,

1524
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: I get a prenup too.

1525
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: That's that's smart And that's honestly another test, Like the

1526
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: same way that he gave her more in the divorce,

1527
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 3: does he give her more in the prenup of his

1528
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 3: own accord?

1529
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: You get more money out of this? Hey? You know?

1530
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 3: Well, I mean if a divorce like honestly, okay, here's

1531
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 3: here's what you can do. I recently saw like Someoneline

1532
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 3: where like this guy's like, if we divorce, if you

1533
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 3: put for every ten pounds you gain, you get ten

1534
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: k less per month afterwards.

1535
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: Oh my god. If you want to really work this

1536
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: out and you want to make sure that nothing f

1537
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: so up, be like if you cheat on me, Okay,

1538
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: if you cheat on me, I take everything you have

1539
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,839
Speaker 2: and you're left on the streets.

1540
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: There's a there's often a fidelity clause and everything. But

1541
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,919
Speaker 3: also kudos to thinking we were going in a completely

1542
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 3: different direction and bringing us right back. You really, really,

1543
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: you really took us on a roller coaster there.

1544
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1545
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, many prenups have an infidelity clause, and like, honestly,

1546
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: maybe you give it up to him and you're like,

1547
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: what do you think should be in the infidelity clause

1548
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 3: and he's like, you take all my money. That's how

1549
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: confident I am. I would yea, honestly, that's a vote

1550
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: of confidence right there. Yeah, right, if you really want

1551
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 3: this to happen. Matt haddergirl thinks it a ten bucks commented,

1552
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, even if it's been ten years, fifteen years,

1553
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 3: I won't get back with an X trying to regain

1554
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 3: the trust. It's so hard to do because I will

1555
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: be thinking, uh, they are cheating the whole time.

1556
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: That's what we were saying earlier. Of Like, you know, for.

1557
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 3: For so many people, it's like the stain might just

1558
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 3: the stain will kind of always be there, like you

1559
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: can't get rid of it.

1560
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: You just like learn to live around it. True works

1561
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: Like another thing too, is like he was one of

1562
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: the good cheaters I've ever seen. This is what a

1563
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: cheater is. A cheater, but a cheater cheater number one.

1564
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: Uh uh. Chad has voted slightly in the majority of

1565
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: it Get back Together, but like, Okay, here we go,

1566
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: here we go, here we go, hot take. Yep, you

1567
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: know what, I'm even gonna put this in the conspiracy theory.

1568
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I'm putting this in the conspiracy zone. Beat murderers.

1569
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: Some murderers they can put in jail, but they get

1570
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 2: they get let out after time. You know.

1571
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, good behavior, dude. Riley's guys, Riley's on fire today.

1572
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: What you know what?

1573
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: We can guess, we can pull, but there's only one

1574
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: way to find out the truth. Riley, what's that.

1575
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 2: Getting into this updates? Let's go.

1576
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: It's been a few days now since I've posted, and

1577
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 3: Reddit has given me some solid advice, especially the.

1578
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: Kind reditors who messaged me directly. What a surprise.

1579
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 3: Very grateful for this because it helped me calm down

1580
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 3: and not give into my impulses. The morning after I posted,

1581
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 3: I texted Mike saying that I needed time and space

1582
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 3: to think about everything. He then replied with I've waited

1583
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 3: ten years. I can wait a bit longer. My heart melted.

1584
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: When the kids woke up. Our son was looking for

1585
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: his dad. He's at the age now where he pretty

1586
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: much idolizes his dad. I get why, though Mike is

1587
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 3: an amazing dad. Our daughter gave me this stink eye

1588
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 3: all morning. After lunch, when our son was in his

1589
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 3: room playing video games, my daughter confronted me about Mike.

1590
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: She basically said how she knew there was something going on,

1591
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 3: guests were not that sneaky, and that she didn't want

1592
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: want our fighting to affect their lives.

1593
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 5: She thought we were fighting.

1594
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 2: There was a lot of yelling in your bedroom. Dude.

1595
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,879
Speaker 5: Oh oh my god.

1596
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1597
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 3: I would not know what to do if if I

1598
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: was opey now. The divorce affected her, but not as

1599
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 3: badly as expected. We made sure she got counseling immediately

1600
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 3: after and made extra sure her life.

1601
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:12,959
Speaker 2: Was as normal as possible.

1602
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: I'm not going to delude myself and think that she

1603
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: wasn't hurt by it, but I'm pretty confident in saying

1604
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: we dealt with it pretty well, or as well as

1605
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: we could. I then had the conversation about how we

1606
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 3: weren't fighting but quite the opposite. We were thinking about

1607
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 3: getting back together. She thought about it for a while

1608
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: and said she was happy for us and hoped that

1609
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: it was forever this time.

1610
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: Wow, it was wild.

1611
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 3: The next day, I dropped my kids off at my parents'

1612
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 3: house so I could talk to Mike at his place.

1613
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 5: We had a long talk.

1614
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: About how we felt about each other, what we planned

1615
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: to do about it going forward, and as many of

1616
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: you suggested, what he planned to do next time we

1617
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 3: hit a rough pash, especially since we plan on having

1618
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: a third kid.

1619
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: I mean already. Oh, she once to get really bad.

1620
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 5: That's true.

1621
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: I guess they've probably talked about like if I ever

1622
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 3: get a relationship, I would want a third kid.

1623
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 5: Sophia call on.

1624
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,799
Speaker 2: We played wwe baby, don't worry.

1625
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just giving her the twist on Headlock

1626
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: nine thousand Friday Nights, SmackDown, the Friday Night, Smackday Night.

1627
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh God, go too hard.

1628
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 3: He told me that night he cheated, still haunted him

1629
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 3: ten years later. He told me how it wasn't worth

1630
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: it one bit and how it was the biggest mistake

1631
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: of his life. He said that if we ever hit

1632
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 3: a rough patch again, we would talk about it like adults.

1633
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 3: He even suggested we do couples counseling every now and then,

1634
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 3: every time, even when times are good. I like this idea.

1635
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: There are some details about our conversation that I want

1636
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 3: to keep private. But long story short, we got back together.

1637
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: Wait what did you keep private? I wouldn't know. Don't

1638
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: That's not fair. You can't be like telling all your

1639
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: business on Reddit and then be like, but I had

1640
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: to keep some things private.

1641
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: Some things we had to keep under the covers, if

1642
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Scottie and Pippin throwing balls

1643
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 3: and holes. But long stories are, we got back together.

1644
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 3: We're gonna take it slow, and in every step we take,

1645
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: we both agree that our children would take priority over everything.

1646
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: He's not going to move in yet, but he would

1647
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: spend a few nights at home, a few nights a

1648
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 3: week at home with us. Later that night, we sat

1649
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 3: the kids down and broke the news. Daughter didn't say

1650
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: much because.

1651
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 2: She already knew, but our son was over the moon.

1652
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: All since we both divorced when he was a baby,

1653
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 3: the concept of both of his parents being together was

1654
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: quite new to him. They obviously asked questions, and we

1655
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: answered them. We also plan on doing some family counseling

1656
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: to help make the transition easier for everybody.

1657
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: Overall, I'm really happy right now.

1658
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: Mike made a mistake years ago, but I don't hold

1659
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 3: it against him and have completely forgiven him for it.

1660
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 3: I know he loves me. I know he loves me

1661
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: now and won't cheat on me anymore. I'm back together

1662
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 3: now with the love of my life and father of

1663
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: my kids, and I couldn't be happier. As I type

1664
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 3: this out, Mike is in the next room playing video

1665
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 3: games with our son. I'm not entirely sure what the

1666
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 3: future will look like, but I'm happy he's back. Thank

1667
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 3: you readit for the advice. I really it really helped

1668
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 3: with our talk and how we proceed going forward. I

1669
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: think I'll stay on line for an hour or so

1670
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 3: till the kids are asleep and he comes to bed.

1671
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: Then it's my turn to have fun. Peace. Wow, wowsy, wowsers,

1672
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: we do have We should we close up with these

1673
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: relevant comments here? Yeah they are I found this one.

1674
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah they are pretty they're pretty good. They're pretty good. Okay, yeah,

1675
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: we'll knock it out. Let's figure it out.

1676
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: Trash for his Tosser says, So if there's another dry spell,

1677
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 3: are you sure he won't cheat and get better at lying?

1678
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 3: Or you guaranteeing there won't be another dry spell? If

1679
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 3: he wants spicy sleep and you aren't willing to have

1680
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 3: spicy sleep anyways, has he shown that he can be

1681
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 3: a happy, filled person without any spicy sleep throwaway nine

1682
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 3: seven six op says he never. He never lied to me,

1683
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 3: though he confessed about it immediately after, And yes, we

1684
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 3: talked about what happens if we hit another dry spell.

1685
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 3: Like I said, we plan to have better communication then

1686
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 3: before and actually get ahead of problems via counseling. Spicy

1687
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: sleep with him is amazing, but it's not the most

1688
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 3: important thing, at least for us, especially since neither of

1689
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,919
Speaker 3: us want to do it with anyone else. He already

1690
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 3: knows what will happen if he strays again. Thoughts on

1691
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 3: an open relationship, OPI responds a hard pass on an

1692
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: open relationship. Can't imagine sleeping with anyone else at this point,

1693
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: and nor can he. Like I said, he's Pippin and

1694
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: I'm Jordan in the bed, like we're that in sync.

1695
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 5: Our bodies were pretty much made for each other.

1696
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 2: Also note that I think Op he's calling herself Jordan,

1697
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 2: so she she's the real MVP. Wow, don't get me wrong.

1698
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 3: Like you know, Scotty's Scotty's assistant and all, but like

1699
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 3: he's number two at the end of the day, Op

1700
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 3: is the number one MVP.

1701
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: That's right, Just so we're letting it be known.

1702
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: And I think that it was the spicy uh. Our

1703
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: bodies were pretty much made for each other. And I

1704
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 3: think it was the spicy sleep part because he never

1705
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 3: really lied to me. It was a lapse in judgment

1706
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 3: on his part after a dry spell after the birth

1707
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: of our son. Definitely not happening again. And that that

1708
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 3: is it for the story.

1709
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I think here's the poll. Talk to me. What

1710
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: was the poll? Oh?

1711
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Wow, So it flipped for uh, get back together fifty

1712
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 3: six percent.

1713
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 5: Not so we ended up with we we.

1714
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,520
Speaker 3: It's very split, but we we we crossed the thresholds

1715
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 3: back to don't get back together, which is what they

1716
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 3: ultimately did.

1717
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 5: And I will personally say, uh, I.

1718
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 3: Think for the better. I think it's for the better.

1719
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: So you agree, Yeah, he's good dad. Yes, he feels

1720
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 3: really bad about it, and honestly, put that thing put

1721
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: that contract in the freaking thing with the.

1722
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: Lawyer, dude, and you're good, lock it down, lock it down. Yeah.

1723
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 3: I think ultimately op OPI did good in practicing restraint

1724
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 3: and not hopping into it too quickly. And given that,

1725
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: you know, she pumped the brakes and is seems like

1726
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 3: has a good plan.

1727
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 5: I'm here for it.

1728
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 3: And you know, honestly, if anything happens, she'll probably you know,

1729
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 3: dip back and return to normal. Yeah, curvy girl, all

1730
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 3: of flame says, returning to your X is like a

1731
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 3: dog returning to their vomits. She's the lolo, curvy girl

1732
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 3: with the and you know what, like returning to a

1733
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 3: cheating X generally speaking a terrible move.

1734
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like broadly, but I think this a lot of

1735
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: people that have been cheated and still stay together and

1736
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: they're they're all right. I think I think in this

1737
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 2: case it seems to work. Yeah, in this case, I'll

1738
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 2: give it to him.

1739
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 3: We got yeah, we got any donuts to reea moon

1740
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 3: toxicity or toxicity? Thanks for something one with a membership.

1741
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 3: Yay one month, Happy birthday, Sophia. I'm watching while drawing emotes.

1742
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 3: I think Opie had the right that canceled the seventeen

1743
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 3: year old party. The seventeen year old also hurt her.

1744
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:21,440
Speaker 5: I agree.

1745
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 3: I don't got no context, but I agree. Okay, Matt

1746
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 3: Hadergall thinks out to ten bucks. I hear you on

1747
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 3: that go to conventions as a vendor, and I can't

1748
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 3: leave my booth to go see voice actors. I want

1749
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 3: to meet so bad it's hard to stay professional. Oh

1750
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 3: does Matt.

1751
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: Hattergal go to I think she was a vidcoon? Oh crap?

1752
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Did we did you guys get a chance to say

1753
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: what's up? No, that's that's too bad.

1754
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 3: We'll have we'll have we'll have to as soon as

1755
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 3: we do the next in person or full event, we'll

1756
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 3: have to have Matt Hatdergal come.

1757
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: Out por sir, for sure, a free ticket for you buy.

1758
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 3: But by the way, Matt hat er Gal, just whenever

1759
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 3: we do our first ticket at event or whatever, just

1760
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 3: if we charge for it, just suggest two for free.

1761
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 5: Matt had a girl again.

1762
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh that was the comment we read earlier about you know,

1763
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 3: even even if it's ten fifteen years mad hatt a

1764
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 3: girl personally not about getting back together, which totally fair.

1765
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Like I think that is that is completely fair. I

1766
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 3: think that is completely fair.

1767
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: And am interesting story.

1768
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 3: I love the ones where it can be a little

1769
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,839
Speaker 3: bit split and there's like, you know, we are almost

1770
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 3: exactly evenly split from the community perspective on whether or

1771
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 3: not getting back together is the move or not. And

1772
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 3: and I low key there are many valid points on

1773
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 3: both sides of the argument.

1774
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 2: I feel like in the in this particular case, yeah,

1775
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: telling the kids gave says Tellings was a bad move.

1776
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, I I do agree with with gave to an

1777
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 3: extent because it felt a little early for the I

1778
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 3: think that they think they.

1779
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: We're trying to move slow.

1780
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I uh yeah, honestly, I mean they are.

1781
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 3: He is sleeping over like I think they are kind

1782
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 3: of moving a little bit faster now that they're like

1783
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 3: making an official between themselves.

1784
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 5: I think it was the right move to tell the daughter.

1785
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 3: When she asked or confronted them, like, don't don't like

1786
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 3: lie to them if they ask you about it. But

1787
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 3: I don't know if you be forthcoming and and whatnot.

1788
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 3: Sydney with Kidney's conspiracy theory, John didn't have COVID and

1789
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:27,959
Speaker 3: just wanted to break from Okay, story.

1790
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 2: Time sitting without Kidney.

1791
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 3: If you could see my existential crisis of sitting in

1792
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 3: a box by myself for a week. And I I

1793
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 3: met so many great friends at this riley. How many

1794
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 3: of our like like deep friends did we meet at

1795
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 3: VidCon last year?

1796
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: Two like six six?

1797
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, John Yushi, John Yushai, Daniel Wall I.

1798
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Talked to you all.

1799
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Janiel, Jack Gordon, we talked to you all

1800
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 3: the time. In uh right, Ryan, we we met through

1801
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 3: Daniel like that. That kind of set off our current

1802
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: little like like creator family was like seeded at at

1803
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 3: VidCon last year.

1804
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, a lot. I didn't know that well a lot.

1805
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's fair. Yeah, curvy girl, all of flame.

1806
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 3: Uh with the five buck dono. He cheated on her

1807
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 3: at her most vulnerable moment when giving worth good point.

1808
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 3: Growing old together is also challenging. And uh, he is

1809
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 3: not able to honor his vows.

1810
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 2: I mean it's.

1811
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 5: True, like he he did.

1812
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 3: He can't re honor the vow that he he broke

1813
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: the val I mean that's that is that. But he's

1814
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 3: also doing his thing now. Matt Hatter gal Uh Hatter

1815
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 3: was not at the event. Okay, you guys are at

1816
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 3: Hatter is not that cool for those times of events,

1817
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 3: but I mean Comic Con Los Angeles or any convention

1818
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 3: here in LA. It's not it's hard not to fangle

1819
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 3: over voice actors and stay professional.

1820
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Fact.

1821
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 5: It's true, it's true.

1822
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think I think now, like now

1823
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 3: I try to like approach people and just be like yeah,

1824
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 3: and that's a beauty.

1825
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 5: No, You're totally good.

1826
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 3: That's the beauty of it is you can kind of

1827
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 3: just come and like you can just strike up a

1828
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 3: conversation with John Green and tell him about being at

1829
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 3: the sawmill.

1830
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 2: I did that. That's crazy to me, That's absolutely crazy. Yeah.

1831
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 3: So so happy that you guys were able to go.

1832
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 3: I had my own I told Riley, I had my

1833
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: seven stages of grief. It was a it was a transformative.

1834
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 3: I was literally I decided to go surfing. I was

1835
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 3: like literally like two hundred yards away from anyone minus

1836
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 3: the lifeguard sitting in his little lifeguard box.

1837
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 2: So I was very alone.

1838
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 3: And it was like sunset, Golden Hour, and I was

1839
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 3: just like sitting there looking at the sunset, and I

1840
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 3: was just like I'm tripping.

1841
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm tripping. Life is good, and like I was just

1842
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 2: I was just sad.

1843
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 3: I love being with the family. I love you know,

1844
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 3: I love being with you guys and doing stuff. So

1845
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 3: I was I was sad to miss it, but you know, life,

1846
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 3: life was ultimately dude.

1847
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I literally every twenty minutes, I was like, I'm miss Joan,

1848
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: I miss John. I miss John so much.

1849
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 3: Anyways, we got next year, we got other things. But

1850
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,839
Speaker 3: you know what else we got, Riley, what's that more story?

1851
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: Let's go?

1852
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 5: Also, do you know how many we've read so far?

1853
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 2: Will be our let me go? Look, I want to

1854
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: say this fourth.

1855
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: Or people, if someone can chat in the comments below,

1856
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: I also might quickly get my girlfriend her parking.

1857
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: Pass so she doesn't give a ticket. If we can

1858
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: ask Sophia, it's already printed. Uh oh yeah, you can

1859
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 2: do that. I'll be right back. Talk with the people,

1860
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: all right, what's up? Okay? So Mike, I okay, Mike

1861
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 2: was there. I didn't know, like if Charlotte wanted to

1862
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 2: keep that secret and on it, so that's why I

1863
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 2: said guy, But it was Mike, and I was Spikey Mark,

1864
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: and Spikey Mike is very nice and I got his

1865
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: DM and me and him have been talking and hopefully, hopefully,

1866
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: hopefully they will come tomorrow and check out the house.

1867
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 2: I don't think they will come on. I don't They

1868
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: probably will not come on video. We'll just show them

1869
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: the studio and be like, yeah, this is what we do.

1870
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: Oh would you like to come on our show sometime?

1871
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 2: That would be so great. We love you, We love

1872
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: you so much. Yeah yeah. Riley said that it was

1873
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 2: for the man pagements to be messed up the names

1874
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 2: of the story that Genie oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1875
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna put these on Facebook because Facebook is popping up.

1876
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Well it's not on Facebook. Also, lurkers, lurkers, I want

1877
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: to see you in the chat right now, because I

1878
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 2: always like seeing new names because I'm like starting to

1879
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: see a lot of names that I do know and like,

1880
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 2: Teddy's here, what's up Teddy? And then riders here and

1881
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: then be nice. I know, you just sit it wrong.

1882
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: Uh oh man, Hatter Gal, thanks for the five box.

1883
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 2: Uh if okay, so story tom ever has a La convention,

1884
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 2: you stop by my booth, Hatter will be sad if

1885
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: you don't hadder, we will do that. And also I

1886
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 2: love the third person, and now you referring to yourself

1887
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: in the third person. There we go, There we go.

1888
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Facebook is here. What else do I say? I don't have.

1889
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of weird, like not really weird. I know

1890
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 2: you guys are all watching me, but it's like, in

1891
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 2: a way, I'm talking to no one, but you guys

1892
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 2: are all here. But it's like if I was an auditorium, Okay,

1893
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 2: if we were all live in person, it's like an

1894
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 2: auditorium of like six hundred people, I would be nervous,

1895
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: but like, it's just a screen and I see you

1896
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 2: guys here, and the more times you chat, I'm like,

1897
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: oh yeah, But I do get pretty nervous before we

1898
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 2: go live because I'm like, something might mess up, don't

1899
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: I get nervous before we go live?

1900
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes literally, Riley gets nervous and I'm like, literally, afterwards,

1901
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 3: we're always like, dude, that was so great. Honestly, the

1902
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,919
Speaker 3: more nervous Riley is, the better it turns out. Literally,

1903
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 3: It's just it is. It is an inverse law of correlation.

1904
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. All right, people, my girlfriend is situated.

1905
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 3: No parking tickets will we had today?

1906
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 2: Dude, John was so stressed this morning. He's like, I

1907
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 2: need a parking ticket right now.

1908
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:13,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1909
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: He was looking out the window.

1910
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,759
Speaker 3: He was like, like getting the parking ticer Like Riley,

1911
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 3: I've been down the street, Sam, you still live in

1912
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: an apartment down the street, and super quickly the story time,

1913
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 3: I'll get into it. I went into Sam's apartment seven minutes,

1914
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 3: seven minutes, five minutes, I was.

1915
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 5: In this man's apartment.

1916
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 2: Ticket.

1917
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 3: Oh, these these ticket people are unforgiving agents of Satan.

1918
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 2: It is true.

1919
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 3: I don't care. I will say it. I will say

1920
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care. They are the worst,

1921
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 3: the worst, the worst. Anyways, my hate of the parking

1922
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 3: people here aside, are we still on five eighty five?

1923
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, yeah we are too, all right, boys and girls.

1924
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:06,480
Speaker 3: Let's give you what you came here to see, and

1925
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 3: here we go. So am I wrong for wanting to

1926
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,799
Speaker 3: get pregnant even though my partner doesn't want to commit

1927
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 3: to me?

1928
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 2: Baby trapping? Baby trapping? Question mark is the best way

1929
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 2: to keep your partner with you? This comes from what

1930
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 2: should I do?

1931
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 3: Who says I, Hi, thirty one female. I've been with

1932
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 3: my partner, thirty three male for over five years. He

1933
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 3: says he loves me, so he's a future et cetera,

1934
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 3: et cetera. But he doesn't have any plans for engagement.

1935
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 2: So let's make some Ooh.

1936
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,839
Speaker 3: My goodness, though he gives me the classic I wouldn't

1937
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 3: be here if I didn't think we'd get married. I

1938
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 3: don't like that at all. I hate that I found

1939
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 3: out recently due to some health issues. I have a

1940
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 3: hard stop at thirty five for conception and op is.

1941
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 3: She has four years left, but the clock is stickings.

1942
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 3: But if things don't work out with my partner, it

1943
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 3: would give me roughly three years to have a child.

1944
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to go find a sperm donor, so

1945
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I may never have biological kids. I

1946
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 3: talked to my doctor about it, and he's somewhat opened

1947
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 3: to the idea of going ahead or sorry. I talked

1948
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: to my partner about it, not my doctor, and he's

1949
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 3: somewhat open to the idea of going ahead and having

1950
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 3: a baby. I know accidents happen, but is it crazy

1951
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 3: to try this on purpose with someone who won't commit

1952
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 3: to me? Okay, that is very good context. So she's

1953
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 3: not saying baby trapping. She's saying, do I have a

1954
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 3: kid consensually with my partner who doesn't want to commit

1955
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 3: to marrying me, which I it sounds like.

1956
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: A conversation needs to be had. Yeah, I think here.

1957
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 3: The thing that threw me off that I mentioned at

1958
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 3: the top was, uh, he's terrified of marriage and commit

1959
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 3: admit though gives me the classic I wouldn't be here

1960
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 3: if I didn't think we'd get married. I think, no,

1961
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 3: like you need to communicate exactly, you need to break

1962
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 3: that all the way down for me, because I am

1963
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 3: I am.

1964
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,879
Speaker 2: I think he's actually just like, uh, placating her.

1965
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 3: So that way she'll feel like okay for the time

1966
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 3: being and stringing her along. He's just stringing her along

1967
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 3: and like he can. He can say that and string

1968
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 3: her along for another six months, and another six months

1969
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 3: and another six months until they've been five years together,

1970
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 3: which like you know, to eat to each their own

1971
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 3: Like there's like there's couples. We have a good friend,

1972
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 3: Justin and Michelle that were together for about about was

1973
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 3: it nine or ten or eleven?

1974
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 2: They've been together for like ten years?

1975
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 3: Didn't they didn't they just celebrate their eleventh I might

1976
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 3: be wrong, maybe about ten about ten years years and

1977
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 3: but they started dating in high school, so it's like

1978
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 3: they were growing up as adults. You know before now

1979
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 3: they're in their late twenties and they're like, all right,

1980
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 3: now's the time, which I think was a great move.

1981
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 2: That's great in years ten years, dude, how long would

1982
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: you wait before you get married?

1983
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 3: I don't think for me, it's not a waiting timing

1984
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: thing and more of a place of life thing, which

1985
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: actually goes back to the point like Michelle and Justin. Yeah,

1986
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 3: they were together for nine, ten, eleven years, whatever it.

1987
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 2: Is, but.

1988
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 3: They were still like so young. I mean at five years.

1989
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 3: At this point, these two people are thirty one and

1990
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 3: thirty three. Justin and Michelle were like twenty one and

1991
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 3: like nineteen or whatever whatever it is. Yeah, I mean

1992
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 3: at nineteen and twenty one or whatever it is, I

1993
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,759
Speaker 3: think it's totally fair to be like, I'm not ready

1994
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 3: to like get married right now. You still have so

1995
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 3: much life to live, and I think, like even and

1996
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 3: you're still together, but you're like growing up in that sense,

1997
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 3: like me, me and me and my girlfriend and I

1998
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 3: I feel like we've grown up a lot together. H

1999
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 3: we're in that like the we we came together in

2000
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 3: that like maturation stage of your twenties where you're like, okay,

2001
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 3: you're really figuring out your career and like what you

2002
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 3: want your life to be, and like at the beginning,

2003
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 3: you don't even you're just like grinding and you don't

2004
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 3: know what it's going to be.

2005
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean.

2006
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: I guess that's where I'm at in my career. I

2007
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 2: literally don't even know what the next like two years

2008
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 2: looks like.

2009
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 3: It's it's there's always like being being in this like

2010
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 3: something could happened tomorrow that like you don't even know.

2011
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 2: It's crazy. But op, he.

2012
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 3: Continues edits uh, this wouldn't be an attempt to force

2013
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,719
Speaker 3: him into marrying me. I accept that there's a reasonable

2014
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 3: chance we still wouldn't work. I Uh, we both have strong, familiar,

2015
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 3: familiar support and I think would co parent well. It's

2016
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: sounds like our slash single mothers by Choice might be

2017
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 3: the better sub to ask in since it's more about

2018
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 3: uh ever, having a child. I appreciate the advice. It's

2019
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 3: given me a lot to think about. Can we get

2020
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 3: a poll going up? Have baby have the baby?

2021
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? Uh? Yeah, I am.

2022
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 3: I am definitely leaning on no right now because it

2023
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 3: feels like like you're you are both not on the

2024
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 3: same page where it's like you would rather just get married,

2025
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 3: and he's just not not about it and just I

2026
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 3: don't know giving he's giving very mixed signals to me.

2027
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 3: Georgette Cooper says, it's giving placeholder, it's giving placeholder. Yeah,

2028
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 3: he's just like, let me stringer along until I can

2029
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 3: find something better or whatever. It is, like I don't know,

2030
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,799
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm.

2031
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 5: Not feeling it.

2032
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 3: But we got some we got some quick comments from

2033
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 3: the relevant comments. Mew Canada says, I don't think it's

2034
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 3: fair for him to be more okay with one lifetime

2035
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 3: commitment and not the other lifetime commitment.

2036
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a that's an interesting point.

2037
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 3: If he's considering kids, he should be considering the marriage

2038
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 3: because kids tie you, uh forever, because kids forever tie

2039
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 3: you together.

2040
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like there's.

2041
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 3: Two lifelong commitments here and it kind of just makes

2042
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 3: sense to bundle them together because you're tied to this

2043
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 3: person for life anyways with a kid, so it, you know,

2044
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 3: goes kind of goes hand in hand.

2045
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:29,440
Speaker 5: Unsharp and Swan.

2046
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 3: Says, yes, this op is he really fully committed to

2047
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 3: being a parent for the rest of his life, because

2048
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 3: this wasn't because this is an absolute requirement for having

2049
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 3: a kid.

2050
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 2: You don't get to change your mind ever an op.

2051
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 3: Are you really fully committed to co parenting for the

2052
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 3: rest of your life with someone you may never get

2053
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 3: married to. I'm one hundred percent in support of folks

2054
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 3: choosing to co parent in unconventional ways, but it needs

2055
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 3: to be an honest discussion where both of you are

2056
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 3: fully on board with what this means. I would low

2057
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 3: key almost rather a situation of she finds a like,

2058
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 3: let's say she finds a friend who's also like later

2059
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 3: in life and he's like, hey, I want to have

2060
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 3: a kid, but I like, haven't found a good partner.

2061
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know, forty five, I'm doing great

2062
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 3: in my career, I'm like all this stuff, but I

2063
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 3: just haven't found a woman to like have a kid with.

2064
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, let's just decide to be co

2065
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 3: parents together, and like we're like friends who co parent,

2066
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 3: and that's what it is than this, Yeah, I would read.

2067
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. That seems more

2068
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 2: practical and.

2069
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 3: This just feels and honestly, like obviously the best case

2070
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 3: scenario is they're in love, they want to be together

2071
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 3: and parent together for life. Yeah, and commit through marriage.

2072
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,879
Speaker 3: I personally believe that is one hundred percent just just

2073
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 3: purely the act of being like I am making this commitment,

2074
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 3: you know, to the world.

2075
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, relationship is a two way street. It's a

2076
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: two way street, dude. Read the title of this next

2077
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,919
Speaker 2: one update.

2078
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 3: One year later, we broke up over aliens? Can I

2079
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 3: be honest? One not a plot twist. I would never

2080
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 3: expect it. And we and we we are decent and

2081
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 3: predicting them. And two this may just be the perfect

2082
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 3: story for Riley to comment on hashtag conspiracy theory alert.

2083
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 2: Get ready, let's see. I'm here for it.

2084
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 3: So I'm so appreciative that all of you advised caution.

2085
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 3: Things were great day to day, but not trending in

2086
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 3: a positive direction.

2087
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 2: I e.

2088
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 3: I was ready to buy a house, he wasn't, so

2089
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 3: I bought it on my own and he paid me rent.

2090
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 3: Despite our trajectory, I wasn't strong enough to leave. I

2091
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 3: loved him so so much. Oh that my heart.

2092
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 2: Is being prepared for pain to read.

2093
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 3: Oh boy, what really ramped up over to last year

2094
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 3: is his interest in ufology and aliens very important. I'm

2095
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 3: not denying that they can exist. Where is this coming from?

2096
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 3: But I don't see the need for it to take

2097
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 3: over my life like it has his. I tried to

2098
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 3: keep his head above water, but he slipped further and

2099
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 3: further down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. He recently intended

2100
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 3: a conference with his fellow believers in quotes, and now

2101
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 3: the man I once knew is gone. He actually initiated

2102
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 3: the breakup, as he needs to be with someone who

2103
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 3: can support his spiritual awakening. Oh so there you have it.

2104
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm heartbroken. I don't know what my future looks like.

2105
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 3: But my god, if I don't have a response to

2106
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 3: why you'd break up? Aliens and then to close this

2107
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 3: all out hungry reference nine seven six says, that's wild,

2108
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 3: almost so crazy. You wonder if it's your guardian angel going, well,

2109
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 3: she's not gonna leave on her own. Let's make this

2110
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 3: absolutely crazy, which I think is so true. Yeah, honestly,

2111
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 3: is this her guardian angel coming down from the heavens

2112
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 3: and being like, girl, I am going to give you

2113
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 3: something so blatant that you cannot and he's gonna break

2114
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 3: up with you. I'm gonna I'm gonna help you out

2115
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 3: through this. Yeah, imagine if she had a kid with him, Oh.

2116
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 2: My gosh, and they would be like in aliens and stuff.

2117
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 3: And then he's like, Babe, we have to make sacrifice. Dude,

2118
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 3: that was taking that. I was legit thinking that first born.

2119
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 3: Oh babe, babe, my first born. That's what they want.

2120
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:50,879
Speaker 2: They want them. They've been telling me that.

2121
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 5: You need to support me on my spiritual awakening.

2122
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 2: It's just one. We can have another one after this.

2123
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 3: We can have we can have, we can have, babe,

2124
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,759
Speaker 3: we can have eight babies together, give you eight children.

2125
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 2: Just let me just give away just this one. This one.

2126
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 5: That's what this guy is giving.

2127
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Whoa Yeah, complete bullet dodged.

2128
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play off of Aaron O'Dell's comment, Kisman say

2129
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 3: girl gtfo, he said, UFO, So she gtfo?

2130
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 2: Whoa slay? We make content over here, We make content

2131
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 2: over ladies and gentlemen.

2132
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 3: But yeah, I honestly this ended, albeit with the wildest

2133
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 3: plot twist I never could have seen coming, honestly the

2134
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 3: way it should have because she had a very very

2135
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 3: crystal clear apparent reason to leave. That kind of forced

2136
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 3: her out of the relationship and she will ultimately be

2137
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 3: better off. Both the relationship wise and when you know. However,

2138
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 3: she decides to have a kid like being being a

2139
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 3: single mom way better than.

2140
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dealing with the alien dude. Dealing with alien dude.

2141
01:50:58,160 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 5: Not no, no alien babies.

2142
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: Oe alien baby