Speaker 1: What's that ad? Spooky? I'm really sure it's dead. It's
Speaker 1: coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm got.
Speaker 1: Im jazz. Hey boo, it's me Roz. How you doing.
Speaker 1: You excited to talk about things that are not in
Speaker 1: the news. Me too. Let's talk about the paranormal, shall we.
Speaker 1: First of all, thank you guys for all the nice
Speaker 1: messages from last week's episode with very Gay Paint. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of messages talking about how funny the
Speaker 1: episode was, which I agree. I really really loved that
Speaker 1: episode last week. And we've got another great one this
Speaker 1: week with another hilarious comedian named Cara Connors, and I
Speaker 1: think you're going to enjoy those one. But before we
Speaker 1: get to that, I have a ghost story. It was
Speaker 1: sent to me at ghosted by razat gmail dot com,
Speaker 1: which you could do too, just put in the subject
Speaker 1: line something about it being a ghost story. This one
Speaker 1: comes from anonymous anonymous rights. I've heard you mentioned a
Speaker 1: couple of times that you don't get many ghost stories
Speaker 1: from New York City. I've lived in the city for
Speaker 1: ten years without any paranormal encounters, but I'm starting to
Speaker 1: think that there's something wrong with the place where I work.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your theories. I work for an
Speaker 1: organization that moved into an new office space last year,
Speaker 1: and there's something that feels really off about it. At first,
Speaker 1: I thought I was imagining things or just settling into
Speaker 1: a new space. But I keep hearing a noise that
Speaker 1: I can explain, and it creeps me out. It sounds
Speaker 1: exactly like someone is quietly knocking on the door to
Speaker 1: get into our office, or else trying to open the
Speaker 1: door from the hall. But when I go to look,
Speaker 1: there's nobody there, and the motion sensor in the hallway
Speaker 1: hasn't turned the light on, so nobody even could have
Speaker 1: been there. The door is glass, so it's easy to
Speaker 1: see people approaching, but I only ever hear this sound
Speaker 1: when the door is out of my line of vision.
Speaker 1: It's especially bad when I'm there alone, but it happens
Speaker 1: when people are there. My coworker hears it too and
Speaker 1: agrees that there's a weird feeling in the space. I
Speaker 1: can't really describe it, but I feel like something is
Speaker 1: off there. There's a bad energy in the space, like
Speaker 1: a heaviness, and other bad energy seem to be drawn
Speaker 1: to it. I noticed that I've been getting more migrains
Speaker 1: ever since we moved into this space, and the space
Speaker 1: itself has been riddled with problems. Appliances, electrical equipment and
Speaker 1: other things keep breaking, and the battery on my new
Speaker 1: phone drains too quickly when I'm at work. It just
Speaker 1: adds up to something that isn't quite normal. I think
Speaker 1: it's important to note that we are in a new building,
Speaker 1: but located in the Bowery, in an area with a
Speaker 1: ton of history. The Bowery, God, that's a hard word
Speaker 1: to say. The Bowery is the oldest street of Manhattan.
Speaker 1: It was a Native American trail and trading route that
Speaker 1: went on to become a main thoroughfare as New York
Speaker 1: City developed. The area earned a bad reputation in the
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds, with tons of bars, flaphouses, crime,
Speaker 1: and shady activity, including more than a couple of murders.
Speaker 1: We are right down the street from where quote Suicide
Speaker 1: Hall used to be, which is a tavern that got
Speaker 1: its name because so many people ended their lives there.
Speaker 1: But I haven't been able to dig up any history
Speaker 1: specifically tied to our building or address, but it seems
Speaker 1: more than likely that there has been bad energy in
Speaker 1: this area for a long time. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Am I dealing with some sort of low key poultergeist
Speaker 1: or maybe an agrigre that has attached itself to the location.
Speaker 1: Since New York City does seem mostly ghost free, as
Speaker 1: you and a few guests have mentioned, is this what
Speaker 1: happens when the energies accumulate in one spot for too long?
Speaker 1: Looking forward to your thoughts, Okay, I got I got
Speaker 1: some thoughts here. Well, I don't think that New York
Speaker 1: City is ghost free at all. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think it's weird. I just don't hear the stories. Now, Yes,
Speaker 1: there are those theories that ghosts use energy from electrical
Speaker 1: equipment and sure phone battery, all kinds of batteries and appliances.
Speaker 1: The theory goes that that is what gives them their energy.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like this ghost needs the energy because
Speaker 1: it's all I can do is do a couple of
Speaker 1: knocks here or there. It's like carbs electronics are ghost carbs.
Speaker 1: An iPhone is essentially a ghost cliff bar because it's
Speaker 1: probably an old ghost or ghosts. These could be ghosts
Speaker 1: from before there was you know, a city there. They
Speaker 1: could be turn of the century ghosts. They could be
Speaker 1: more recent ghosts. Isn't it weird to think that turn
Speaker 1: of the century. It could also imply Y two k.
Speaker 1: It could be a Y two K ghost if you
Speaker 1: start seeing low rise jeans walking on their own, if
Speaker 1: you see a floating livestrong bracelet. Of course, none of
Speaker 1: us know how any of this stuff works, but I
Speaker 1: do think sometimes like these old ghosts that have been
Speaker 1: ghosting for years, don't you wouldn't you think naturally that
Speaker 1: their energy would die down, like they just wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to keep it going. But also with this story,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so it's a new building. There could
Speaker 1: be some wiring problems, which could be why the appliances
Speaker 1: electrical equipment die. Could that be some kind of knocking
Speaker 1: in a building? I don't know, Could there be mold? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a newer building. Not to sound like
Speaker 1: a skeptical paranormal investigator, I like to just go with
Speaker 1: the thought that maybe it is a ghost. But I
Speaker 1: hope it's not too negative or anything. I hope you
Speaker 1: can still get through your day.
Speaker 2: Ugh.
Speaker 1: The migraines though, that sucks. I actually know this guy
Speaker 1: that anytime he's around, I just instantly get a migraine,
Speaker 1: like not debilitating, but just like I need to lay down.
Speaker 1: My head is killing me right now. So I mean,
Speaker 1: if somebody like that dies, could they still have that
Speaker 1: capability as a ghost to just give me a migraine?
Speaker 1: I bet it's possible. Also, I think that that person
Speaker 1: just wears too much cologne and I can't stand it. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get on over to this conversation with the hilarious
Speaker 1: comedian Kara Conners on Patreon. This week, there's a bonus
Speaker 1: clip of us looking at a haunted doll name Jacqueline,
Speaker 1: and there's also a full length episode this week I'm
Speaker 1: there as well on my second tier, and a little
Speaker 1: video too. Here we go, It's time for me and
Speaker 1: Ka Connors on with the show. Oh my god, Kara, Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: thanks for doing this. How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm kind of nervous.
Speaker 1: Why are you? I'm nervous.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: This is like, I'm excited, but it's not like I
Speaker 2: don't usually share these views with people. This is not.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing you're talking to an audience of
Speaker 1: people that have heard they've heard reality shows talking about
Speaker 1: reality stars talking about getting fucked by ghosts. They have
Speaker 1: they've heard me telling stories about haunted Ouiji boards like this,
Speaker 1: you're not this is the place to do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm still I don't know. I'm still
Speaker 2: my breath it feels tight.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a ghost.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I really just don't talk about my
Speaker 2: opinions about any supernatural topics that much. I feel like
Speaker 2: there's not that many like safe people, and then like
Speaker 2: I'm kind of agnostic in general about it, and so
Speaker 2: then I don't know. Here's what I'll say. The last
Speaker 2: time that I tried talking about it, I met. I
Speaker 2: was with some friends at a bar and they brought
Speaker 2: this person from out of town and they said, you
Speaker 2: have to talk to her because her mom is the
Speaker 2: second most famous psychic in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: And second, what is the ranking? Who was there a competition?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was like said as a
Speaker 2: thing of pride, Like it was said as like show
Speaker 2: some fucking respect.
Speaker 1: Because you're talking to this is this person's mother, Yes,
Speaker 1: of the second hinch.
Speaker 2: Most famous psychic. So but she was there and I
Speaker 2: heard that fact earlier in the night. I kind of
Speaker 2: sat with it.
Speaker 3: I was like, let me get a read on this situation.
Speaker 2: And then later on in the night, after a few drinks,
Speaker 2: I said, Hey, so, I'm kind of curious, like, you know,
Speaker 2: so and so mentioned that your mom is like a psychic?
Speaker 2: Is that true? And I'm not exaggerating? And I had
Speaker 2: three other people confirmed this that were there. This gray
Speaker 2: shadow came across her face and she turned like really
Speaker 2: I perceived it as she aged twenty years, Like her
Speaker 2: face changed and it was like in a movie where
Speaker 2: it was like what do you want to know? Like
Speaker 2: she got really really defensive immediately, and then I tried
Speaker 2: to make a joke like does she have an office
Speaker 2: in her house or like does she do her work
Speaker 2: at home or does she have a separate office, And
Speaker 2: she just was like really shut down and defensive about it.
Speaker 2: But we all afterwards, my three friends all separately, we said,
Speaker 2: did you see that chat Like that thing cross her face?
Speaker 1: Way wit But she was offended that you asked her
Speaker 1: about the mom. Yes.
Speaker 2: Wow, she was just like cause I think she was
Speaker 2: on the defensive that people were like gonna be making
Speaker 2: fun of her or I don't know, but it was.
Speaker 1: I think she was like, wait a minute, you're asking
Speaker 1: me the you should know that my mom oh is
Speaker 1: the second I thought that was understood when I walked
Speaker 1: in here tonight.
Speaker 2: That's actually probably a more accurate reading. But we all,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just saying the last time I
Speaker 2: even tried to broach the subject, I saw my first ghost.
Speaker 3: So I'm scared.
Speaker 1: Wow, if I age twenty years talking about this with
Speaker 1: you today, I'm going to be pissed. I want to see,
Speaker 1: you know, there's like the Long Island Medium iconic. I
Speaker 1: want to see the second best Long Island medium that
Speaker 1: needs to be Yeah, that needs to be a spinoff
Speaker 1: of that show. Somebody usually gets it right, but like
Speaker 1: sometimes right. I trust that psychic more than one that
Speaker 1: says that they're always right to be honest.
Speaker 2: That that family there. There's some stuff, powerful stuff happening.
Speaker 2: Even I was scared to say that. I was like,
Speaker 2: should I change the state? I say, the second most
Speaker 2: part you know that is really who it was? But
Speaker 2: what if you could google that and figure out who
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to right now, let's google second best
Speaker 1: psychic in New Jersey. Okay, let's see here, just a
Speaker 1: lot of ads. Of course, psychic Natalie oh No, that's
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, doesn't seem to have it here. Oh man, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that she probably knows we're talking about her
Speaker 1: because she's psychic.
Speaker 3: Do you know mey people live in New Jersey, A
Speaker 3: lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine there's probably at least two. Have you
Speaker 1: ever been to a psychic yourself?
Speaker 3: I have never been to a psychic.
Speaker 1: No, do you have any reason that.
Speaker 2: I've I've not gone. I think I definitely believe that.
Speaker 2: I guess my whole like in general, my whole statement
Speaker 2: in this probably applies to like anything that we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about, is I think that anybody who thinks
Speaker 2: that they have all the answers with anything is really
Speaker 2: ignorant and stupid. So like, of course I think that
Speaker 2: things are possible, just because I haven't experienced them. I
Speaker 2: do have some like negative stereotypes maybe in my head
Speaker 2: that a lot of maybe psychics are just claiming something,
Speaker 2: or that they're like kind of people give them information,
Speaker 2: don't realize that they're giving them information and then they
Speaker 2: kind of use that, or they're just like very intuitive
Speaker 2: I definitely think that there's psychics and people with real
Speaker 2: power and real vision and ability. But I guess I've
Speaker 2: never gotten like a direct recommendation you have to go
Speaker 2: see and talk to this person, and like, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's their job to prove anything to me, So
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't trust like when people do that with me,
Speaker 1: like you gotta go to this person. I went to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's it's very similar to like, uh, diet and exercise
Speaker 1: or something like, it's different for everybody. I think. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that there's one person that knows everything about
Speaker 1: every single person they've ever met, right, I don't buy it.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, the only psychic I've really wanted to see,
Speaker 2: I think is I was watching like a Real Housewives.
Speaker 2: It was like an Australian Real Housewives, and there's a
Speaker 2: woman on there who is a psychic and kind of
Speaker 2: claims to be like all these different things and is
Speaker 2: like a huge shit disturber, and like she did a
Speaker 2: reading on one of the episodes and all the wives
Speaker 2: got really upset and angry, and so then I think,
Speaker 2: like she might actually have some abilities.
Speaker 1: That's a classic Real housewife trope. Is you got to
Speaker 1: get in. I've also seen it on Little Women Atlanta. Yes,
Speaker 1: they bring in a psychic that just reads them all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it just stirs shit up. And it's right, Honestly,
Speaker 1: it works.
Speaker 3: It's really funny. It's very funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I okay, So, so have you ever encountered a
Speaker 1: ghost or anything that you believe could be.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever encountered a ghost. I mean,
Speaker 2: I told you my experience that I consider the most
Speaker 2: supernatural is when I have dabbled in in mushrooms and
Speaker 2: some of the experiences I've had there. I wouldn't count
Speaker 2: that as a ghost per se. But I guess, like,
Speaker 2: what's your definition of a ghost? I'm not really.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, who knows, but it I think
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff's connected. But for me, I
Speaker 1: always say that I believe that there is something too,
Speaker 1: particularly hallucidia gens and any kind of mind altering substance.
Speaker 1: I do think that. Like I remember when I started
Speaker 1: doing podcast, if someone would if I would read something crazy,
Speaker 1: a story that someone told or whatever, I would read
Speaker 1: other people their comments being like they were just on
Speaker 1: drugs or whatever. Right, And as time has gone on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, when you're drunk, you're kind
Speaker 1: of like a baby, like in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're shutting off that adult all the shit
Speaker 1: you got to worry about as an adult. Like, there's
Speaker 1: so many things that are on our minds that we
Speaker 1: don't even realize, and all of that is pretty much
Speaker 1: shut off. And just like with babies, they say that
Speaker 1: they can see the ghosts and they're they're closer to
Speaker 1: the spirit world because they're not worried about all the
Speaker 1: shit that we're always worried about. So why wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be true with when you're you know, on a substance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your inhibitions can be lowered or you're like more
Speaker 2: made more aware maybe of your surroundings.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 3: Would tell me ghost stories.
Speaker 2: Like she said that her house growing up was hand
Speaker 2: and grew up in like Irish Catholic Chicago, like sixties.
Speaker 2: There were like eight kids and they like lived She
Speaker 2: said that she saw ghosts all the time. And my aunt,
Speaker 2: who's very like rational and like doesn't talk about anything
Speaker 2: like this, confirms it. She was like, yes, we did
Speaker 2: have a couple of ghosts that lived in the house.
Speaker 2: So I think like I always wanted to have that
Speaker 2: experience because it was just told as kind of these
Speaker 2: like fun stories, and I was also morbid as a kid.
Speaker 2: Like I would always when we would like, this is
Speaker 2: so weird. I don't know if off it, but like
Speaker 2: we would always go for like bike rides in the
Speaker 2: cemetery because there's not like a lot of cars, and
Speaker 2: I always would look for like any headstone that was
Speaker 2: like a kid or like someone that was younger like
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and like I always thought
Speaker 2: that I could like feel it if they were there,
Speaker 2: and like, I don't fucking know.
Speaker 1: So what happened when you did mushrooms?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh my god, I'm being right now. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm completely sober. No, but I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do them this weekend, uh to escape reality. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but okay.
Speaker 3: The the experience that I had.
Speaker 2: When I did a very large dose of mushrooms like
Speaker 2: a few months ago, was it was the first time
Speaker 2: where I was the entire thing was very positive, but
Speaker 2: there was a certain point where I started feeling like
Speaker 2: very much like I was in this like weird middle place,
Speaker 2: and then I kept asking my girlfriend if we died.
Speaker 2: Like I was convinced that I had died and that
Speaker 2: we were in some sort of middle place or good place,
Speaker 2: and she was like, no, we didn't die, And I
Speaker 2: was like, but how do you know? How would you
Speaker 2: know if like that happened. But the part of it
Speaker 2: that's also kind of a little scary or spooky is
Speaker 2: that she didn't do any mushrooms and I was the
Speaker 2: only one who did it. But then at a certain
Speaker 2: point she like entered the trip with me and was
Speaker 2: fully part of it and like high on mushrooms but
Speaker 2: took and ingested no much. I feel like, you don't
Speaker 2: believe me she did.
Speaker 1: Well wait, I'm trying to figure out. Wait, so she
Speaker 1: in your trip, was a part of.
Speaker 2: It, yes, but was not on any like has in
Speaker 2: the past, but like did not consume any. And then
Speaker 2: I was like, did we die? Are we ghosts?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Because I just felt so like peaceful slash disconnected. And
Speaker 2: then there was a point where we started communicating without speaking.
Speaker 1: And she was communicating back yes.
Speaker 2: And was not on mushrooms, And then like I felt it,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if this is like
Speaker 2: a spirit or a soul or like whatever. We are
Speaker 2: whatever energy is happening, and I was like, we are
Speaker 2: communicating not verbally, through whatever energy sold whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it, inside of us and you're speaking like telepathically.
Speaker 1: Have you talked to her since then? And She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: mushrooms and I was talking to you without moving.
Speaker 2: We talked about a bunch of times. We've we've tried
Speaker 2: to like talk to my friends about it because I'm
Speaker 2: friends with so many like lesbian witches, and We're like,
Speaker 2: what was that? What was that? What happened?
Speaker 3: And they haven't been to give us a good answer.
Speaker 2: They're like some are like, oh, you're very connected, or
Speaker 2: like oh, that could have been ego death or that,
Speaker 2: but nobody has said that couldn't happen. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know that it happened. I experienced it. But now
Speaker 2: I feel like Demi Levado trying to tell people about
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go find a support group after this.
Speaker 1: I mentioned would love to hear about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 2: You've heard a lot of these different So do you
Speaker 2: think that that was good?
Speaker 1: This this exactly kind of thing? But I believe I
Speaker 1: believe that that's possible. Why not. I believe in telepathy.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of like people are in our
Speaker 1: lives for a reason, and like when you're really connected
Speaker 1: with them, you can there's something to do with your
Speaker 1: intuition about that. It's just sort of like how you
Speaker 1: could you could be like, wait, I have a feeling
Speaker 1: I need to call my close friend and then you
Speaker 1: call them and it feels you know what I mean
Speaker 1: like that. I do think that that's true with certain
Speaker 1: people that you're close to in your life. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's they were put in your life for
Speaker 1: a reason or from being around them so much you
Speaker 1: get in tune with them somehow. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just feels like it definitely felt it
Speaker 2: did feel like it went into the level of supernatural,
Speaker 2: like it was not. It just it wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're like so in like there was something else happening.
Speaker 2: We also have had this thing where like she got
Speaker 2: we got tattoos together once and like she got a
Speaker 2: tattoo on her arm and I got a tattoo on
Speaker 2: my leg and we didn't say anything to each other,
Speaker 2: but for three days my arm was hurting in the
Speaker 2: spot that she got her tattoo, and I didn't tell
Speaker 2: her for three days, but I kept being like, ow,
Speaker 2: like what the fuck? And I didn't have a tattoo there.
Speaker 2: I told her after three days and she said, that's
Speaker 2: been happening to me on my leg.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Oh something.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, something is happening. And I'm not
Speaker 2: like I don't normally. I am like often pretty cynical
Speaker 2: about like a lot of these types of like stories
Speaker 2: and you know, or I try to like keep an
Speaker 2: open mind. But I did experience.
Speaker 1: That that's something.
Speaker 2: Then that's something that I just I need answers. I
Speaker 2: think I have to go to the second best psychic.
Speaker 1: Let's call Demi Levado. Let's see, let's see what we
Speaker 1: can find out. I've been trying to get a hold
Speaker 1: of dem Levado since I started this podcast.
Speaker 2: We have to just tag the shit out of them,
Speaker 2: and let's see if we can get them to at
Speaker 2: least look at the story.
Speaker 1: I haven't had Demi, but I have had Matthew Scott Montgomery.
Speaker 1: Shout out, Matthew Scott Montgomery. He's very sweet to come
Speaker 1: on here. Okay, I want to tell you about something
Speaker 1: that a story that I recently learned about Okay. I
Speaker 1: haven't come up with a name for this segment yet,
Speaker 1: but essentially I googled something okay, and so now I'm
Speaker 1: an expert on it. Oh okay, great. This is the
Speaker 1: story of Emily Sage. This is a story about a
Speaker 1: doppel ganger. Are you familiar with that term?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: See, I feel like that became like a really popular
Speaker 1: term on Facebook, Like ten years ago, there was like
Speaker 1: doppelganger Day and all people posting like what celebrity they
Speaker 1: think they look like?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: But it's also there's like the paranormal definition, which is
Speaker 1: it kind of goes along with astral projection. It's like
Speaker 1: when a living person has like a ghost version of
Speaker 1: them also moving around.
Speaker 2: Whoa and is it like tethered to them or they're
Speaker 2: doing their own things separately.
Speaker 1: It's from what I usually hear, it's like separately. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my partner was at work, but they were walking around
Speaker 1: my house. I always think that it's possibly, in some circumstances,
Speaker 1: an excuse for like somebody's like, oh, my partner is
Speaker 1: supposed to be at work, but like really like your
Speaker 1: partner came home for a second to like do something
Speaker 1: and they're like, I wasn't here. It must have been
Speaker 1: a ghost. It wasn't me, Like, I feel like there's
Speaker 1: it could be that sometimes, right, But and sometimes people
Speaker 1: think that it's a bad omen like with like, are
Speaker 1: you familiar with astral projection?
Speaker 3: I've heard the term, but I don't actually know what
Speaker 3: that means.
Speaker 1: It's like when the spiritual body leaves your physical body
Speaker 1: and people do it like when they sleep. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can kind of like go walk around town and
Speaker 1: do whatever. Yeah, but so it's like, yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: your spirit and your body get disconnected. Okay, So maybe
Speaker 1: that's what it is. But this story is real interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I will say off the bat that the validity
Speaker 1: of this story has been in question because it takes
Speaker 1: place in eighteen forty five. It was originally in a book.
Speaker 1: It was written in a book in eighteen sixty by
Speaker 1: Robert Dale Owen called The Foothills on the Boundary of
Speaker 1: Another World. And I'll tell you more about the validity
Speaker 1: of it. But a lot of people believe it. So
Speaker 1: this woman, Emily's sage. She was a teacher and in
Speaker 1: sixteen years of her teaching career, she had worked at
Speaker 1: nineteen different schools across France, So right there, it's like,
Speaker 1: why what's going on here? So it turns out it's
Speaker 1: because she had a ghost twin that would like follow
Speaker 1: her around, Okay, which to me, I'm like, teachers don't
Speaker 1: get paid enough. They should have they should be allowed
Speaker 1: to have a doppelganger to help them.
Speaker 3: Taking some of her workload for her. That was what the.
Speaker 1: Ghost seems like it Okay, you know, it's like that
Speaker 1: would be great to have like a ghost twin grade
Speaker 1: in the papers. So in eighteen forty five, she's teaching
Speaker 1: at this all girls school in Latvia, and thirteen of
Speaker 1: her students, these girl students, they saw her ghost twin
Speaker 1: standing beside her, mirroring, mirroring like everything that she's doing,
Speaker 1: which I'm picturing like a version just like making fun
Speaker 1: of her behind her, you know what I mean. At
Speaker 1: one point, apparently she was seen helping a student fix
Speaker 1: her dress. Apparently Emily could not see the ghost, but
Speaker 1: everyone else could, so she would actually get exhausted when
Speaker 1: it would appear, and she was said to have reported
Speaker 1: that it would do things that she thought about doing.
Speaker 1: So it's believed that she had kind of like some
Speaker 1: subconscious control of it, so she would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I should be doing that, and then like the ghost
Speaker 1: twin would go do it whoa, which is kind of
Speaker 1: amazing whoa, because but I also feel like that could
Speaker 1: get you in trouble, Like I don't know, you're if
Speaker 1: you're at like a store and someone's like mean to you,
Speaker 1: you could like have your ghost win go like slap
Speaker 1: them or something.
Speaker 2: But you can't even see the ghost twin or really
Speaker 2: control it. You just know that it's affected by your actions,
Speaker 2: and other people are telling you that they see it.
Speaker 2: One does Emily suspect that she's a ghost? Like did
Speaker 2: she ever get worried that it's like the opposite, like
Speaker 2: if everybody else is seeing it?
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem from the reports of this, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like there's much info on how she felt about it,
Speaker 1: because she must know she's been fired from every Oh well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to this in a second. So uh
Speaker 1: one time, this is like the big story. She's gardening
Speaker 1: outside of the classroom and there's like another teacher supervising
Speaker 1: the kids. They're in a sewing class, and the substitute
Speaker 1: teacher lady leaves for a moment, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Emily's doppelganger comes in and sits down in the teacher's seat,
Speaker 1: and the kids are like, wait a minute, she's right there,
Speaker 1: and Emily is outside gardening, like they could see her.
Speaker 1: So these two students are brave enough and they go
Speaker 1: up to the toppleganger and they start touching her, and
Speaker 1: they could run their fingers through her, and they said
Speaker 1: that she felt like she was made out of cobwebs.
Speaker 1: Spiderweb lady. So later she said that she had wished
Speaker 1: that she was in the room supervising the kids, so
Speaker 1: it was like she like made that happen. It became
Speaker 1: every single day at school, and parents started to take
Speaker 1: their kids out of class because they're like, you're the
Speaker 1: teacher's creeping us out. So people would actually walk through
Speaker 1: the doppel ganger and they said that it would feel
Speaker 1: like thick fabric. There were so many complaints that she
Speaker 1: ended up getting fired.
Speaker 2: WHOA.
Speaker 1: But the thing that sounds is like people liked her.
Speaker 1: She was a good teacher. Every school that she got
Speaker 1: fired from, they were always like, oh, no, she was great.
Speaker 1: It's just she has a ghost twin that's freaking out
Speaker 1: the kids which I met, Like, what is that job interview?
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so we see here, you've worked at
Speaker 1: a what is it nineteen school in the past sixteen years?
Speaker 1: What's what's up with that?
Speaker 2: What I mean what I feel like it's probably was
Speaker 2: easier in eighteen forty to not like check references any resume. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna like you could say this is
Speaker 2: my first job, or like I was at this one school.
Speaker 2: I mean, how are they? Yeah, how are they? Like?
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna write a letter to your last school.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put it on a carriage, and in six
Speaker 1: weeks we'll get back to see what they say to her.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, you're gonna get two teachers for
Speaker 1: the price of one. Yeah, it could be worse.
Speaker 2: And co teaching is very popular now, Like a lot
Speaker 2: of classrooms have like thirty six students and they have
Speaker 2: two adults, So makes obviously, Yeah, I think it makes sense.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering where did the ghost twin come from? Was
Speaker 2: this like was she initially conceived as a twin and
Speaker 2: then one of the twins died?
Speaker 1: Like or.
Speaker 2: Because that what's the there's like a term for that
Speaker 2: where like and then it kind of gets like absorbed,
Speaker 2: Like you know, if someone's pregnant with twins, they'll like
Speaker 2: lose one of the babies, and sometimes like I don't know,
Speaker 2: so maybe it's like something exact.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing she was never heard from again,
Speaker 1: Like basically, this whole story centers around this one. Like
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were a lot of like I want
Speaker 1: to hear about all the other schools, but the one
Speaker 1: that was like reported was this final school. And people
Speaker 1: have looked into how true this is, and they found
Speaker 1: a woman that had a very similar name that lived
Speaker 1: in that same area. But some people suspect that maybe
Speaker 1: she was saying using a fake name or she would
Speaker 1: change her name to try to reinvent herself, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to track her. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is a real story or not, but either way,
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing does get reported.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 2: reporting it, and like what is the but people do
Speaker 2: lie about things. But also like why would they come
Speaker 2: forward with that, especially back then, I mean you wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be associated with that probably right, Like it
Speaker 2: would be pretty dangerous to like admit that you have
Speaker 2: any kind of like connection to that, because it could
Speaker 2: be perceived as like connections to evil or dark spirits
Speaker 2: or they they right. So there's it's like if someone
Speaker 2: was going to stand up and say something, yeah, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't like help them to do that. So maybe that
Speaker 2: lends itself to it being more true.
Speaker 1: Does let the lady have her job?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get I mean to her creepy.
Speaker 1: Ass cobweb as twin, just get used to it.
Speaker 2: There's things, there's worse things than also, like if I
Speaker 2: was Emily, like, wouldn't maybe you be the one in
Speaker 2: the classroom helping your kids and maybe have your weird
Speaker 2: ghost twin be the one doing the gardening. Like I think,
Speaker 2: why don't we flip it so that you're the one
Speaker 2: supervising and then have the creepy ghost out. We don't
Speaker 2: know that. It sounds like they're a little creepy. Have
Speaker 2: them be doing this stuff, like maybe it was a
Speaker 2: priority issue. She's like, oh cool, I have this ghost twit.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let them supervise the kids and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go do something relaxing.
Speaker 1: Right, That's not how it's supposed to go.
Speaker 2: Right, So maybe that was the issue.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have to wonder when she's getting freaky deeky,
Speaker 1: what's going on with the ghost twin.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope that. I think if the
Speaker 2: person that's getting freaky with Emily is smart, that they
Speaker 2: would at least extend an open invitation to the I'm
Speaker 2: just like, if if you were the principle of a
Speaker 2: school in eighteen forty and you have twenty parents come
Speaker 2: to you and say, we're really scared this person is
Speaker 2: like has a ghost attached to them? Like, you don't
Speaker 2: fire that person, Like have you not? Like I guess
Speaker 2: there weren't movies then, but it's like if you're not
Speaker 2: like read any book or movie, like you don't piss
Speaker 2: off the ghost, like you don't fire you start a
Speaker 2: new school, your kids go to a new school, that's what.
Speaker 2: And then the ghost teacher just stays and it becomes
Speaker 2: a haunted house, Like you don't kick them out. So
Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing with sex, Like you
Speaker 2: wouldn't you wouldn't be like, hey, can you make sure,
Speaker 2: like you would just have to be down and like
Speaker 2: into that. I think, oh my god.
Speaker 1: But that's why to me, I'm like you have to
Speaker 1: tell you would think she would tell her employees like
Speaker 1: listen for her employers like I'm a great I'm a
Speaker 1: great teacher.
Speaker 2: Think you do that, You're just.
Speaker 1: But you're going to see a cobweb feeling version of me.
Speaker 2: I mean if I was her, I would have just honestly,
Speaker 2: like to protect myself, I would have just like gas
Speaker 2: lit everybody around me.
Speaker 3: If they tried to say they saw a ghosts I'd
Speaker 3: be like, are you okay?
Speaker 2: Like I would be. Then I'd be like, what are
Speaker 2: you talking about? Your you need to get treatment. I'm
Speaker 2: scared for you. That's what I would have done, because
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been safe.
Speaker 1: Let's call the second best psychic in Long Islands and.
Speaker 2: Hurt.
Speaker 1: You want to hear some ghost voices? Yes, okay, it's
Speaker 1: time for or ev Plase. Have you ever heard of
Speaker 1: an EVP?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that that sounds.
Speaker 1: It stands for electronic voice phenomena. It's when ghost hunters
Speaker 1: believe that they have captured a ghost speaking. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so I go to YouTube. I look. I spend hours
Speaker 1: of my life looking at alleged ghost voices, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to play two of them for you, and I
Speaker 1: want you to tell me what you hear this ghost saying,
Speaker 1: and then I'll give you some options about what is
Speaker 1: the correct answer. So this first one, they're both posted
Speaker 1: by the Ky ghost Hunter, which I believe stands for Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Now this person, we don't know what the location is,
Speaker 1: so who knows what the context is? I don't know.
Speaker 1: But what is this ghost saying? Okay, it's real quick,
Speaker 1: let me play it again.
Speaker 2: To me, that sounded like a parakeet.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what was the parakeet saying?
Speaker 3: Okay, what we're done? Okay?
Speaker 2: I didn't hear words.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let me give you some options and maybe
Speaker 1: this will help you. Is it A see you guys?
Speaker 1: Is it B you seem nice? Is it C? The
Speaker 1: machine died? Maybe they were at a haunted McDonald's and
Speaker 1: the ice cream machine it's broken, the machine died or
Speaker 1: or d but we have fries. Okay, let me play
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: I mean, truthfully, I don't really hear words. If I
Speaker 2: hear the rhythm, I'm wondering if I heard the word
Speaker 2: guys in there. So one of those had the option.
Speaker 1: To see you guys, A see you? Guys.
Speaker 2: Maybe see you guys, but like it really just it
Speaker 2: could be a possessed parakeet who flew into the side
Speaker 2: of it. It could be the ghost twin of a parakeet, the.
Speaker 1: Ghost twin of a parakeet. See you guys, That is
Speaker 1: what they believe, it says. I kind of hear it.
Speaker 1: I kind of hear it. Wait listen, see you guys,
Speaker 1: see you guys. Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you saying the like rumbly voice under the screechiness
Speaker 2: is what you hear?
Speaker 1: Wait? I don't hear screechiness. Well, yeah, there is kind
Speaker 1: of like a background hum, but it's it's like a
Speaker 1: whisper that's going see you guys.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't hear that at all. Like to me,
Speaker 2: I'll play it for you. What I just heard you play?
Speaker 2: I hear yes, and then there's like a little underlayer
Speaker 2: of like like that.
Speaker 1: But let me try it again.
Speaker 2: Oh it's I mean, I hear like a grumbly overturn.
Speaker 2: But that one would not convince me. That would not
Speaker 2: make me say this guy caught a ghost.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I got one that is going to change
Speaker 1: the game completely.
Speaker 2: You don't have to prove anything to me.
Speaker 1: This one. Well, this I got real excited about. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard about hundreds of haunted locations. I have never
Speaker 1: heard of this place before. Okay, there's a place in Elizabethtown, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: It's an old historic house and it is called the
Speaker 1: Brown Pouse House.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I actually called them because I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: I was saying it right. And it's pucy. It's the
Speaker 1: Brown Pucy House, but it's brown hyphen p u s
Speaker 1: e y. You could even go to Brownpucyhouse dot org,
Speaker 1: which I have been.
Speaker 2: So you called them to find out how to say
Speaker 2: it correctly. But you insisted on the first time.
Speaker 1: Brown puss because because I keep getting it wrong. It's
Speaker 1: a hard word to say pucy. It is brown, puce brown.
Speaker 1: I gave it just a little bit of flavor, pucety,
Speaker 1: I gave it a little accent. And it was built
Speaker 1: in eighteen twenty five. For many years it was a
Speaker 1: boarding house, and then in nineteen twenty three the Brown
Speaker 1: Pucy House was restored and it was given to the
Speaker 1: community by doctor William Allen Pucy and doctor Alfred Brown Pucy,
Speaker 1: as well as missus Sally Cunningham Pucy and the related
Speaker 1: Hastings family, the Brown Pucy Genealogy Library. You can find there,
Speaker 1: the Pucy Room Museum, and you could even rent the
Speaker 1: Brown Pucy House for any of your Brown Pucy desires. Wow,
Speaker 1: so here we go. Here's an EVP at the Brown
Speaker 1: Pucy House. Okay, okay, there's a lot of background noise
Speaker 1: in this. Okay, You're like, this is gonna change everything.
Speaker 2: And then you play me the sound of an electric
Speaker 2: fan getting caught on a shoelace a warehouse. You're like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this I call them. This is gonna be this is
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty big for you. So all right, let's
Speaker 2: hear it again. Let's hear it again. I am starting
Speaker 2: to feel like these sound clips that you're playing are
Speaker 2: just like kind of you giving me like an ink
Speaker 2: blot test, Like is it A?
Speaker 1: What's all the commotion? Is it B? Yeah? No shit?
Speaker 1: Is it C? Come on, sister, is it D? Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Brown Pucy House. Okay, let me play it again.
Speaker 3: What's all the commotion about?
Speaker 1: They believe it's B?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No shit?
Speaker 2: What did they say when you called them? Did you
Speaker 2: ask them about this clip? No?
Speaker 1: Because this wasn't posted by them. This is posted by
Speaker 1: the ky ghost hunter.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this is like unauthorized ghost noise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a ghost hunter happened to be
Speaker 1: there and captured a ghost voice. When I called the
Speaker 1: Brown puc House, they did not answer. So it says
Speaker 1: in this clip that it says, quote this EVP was
Speaker 1: caught within minutes of being inside the historic house. A
Speaker 1: female investigator says, you had better believe I brought my crucifix,
Speaker 1: and then it it says, yeah, no shit. Listen now
Speaker 1: that we know it's yeah, okay, this is how it sounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no shit. Okay, now listen for that. Now listen for that.
Speaker 1: Come on, you're no fun.
Speaker 2: I'm trying so hard, my heart is just open. It
Speaker 2: just sounds like foil being rubbed against each other.
Speaker 1: It could be that too.
Speaker 2: I am not saying that.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I can talk a big game here, But if I
Speaker 2: went to the Brown Pussy House, would I be saying this, No,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I would be respectfully saying thank you for sharing.
Speaker 2: That with me. Okay, I'll admit that. I'll own that.
Speaker 1: But this has plans to go on down to the
Speaker 1: Brown piece.
Speaker 2: You know, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't have plans, but I am intrigued. Are they open?
Speaker 1: Actually not? When I called, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if I want to go on an adventure, if
Speaker 2: I haven't uh confirmed someone will be there, I I
Speaker 2: will say that did you're I'll say that that that
Speaker 2: did actually change some things for me, I think.
Speaker 1: But not in the way I was hoping. Okay, one
Speaker 1: last thing. I'm just going to rapid fire a couple
Speaker 1: of paranormal phenomenas and tell me if you have a story,
Speaker 1: if you believe in them, whatever, Okay, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you think of UFOs?
Speaker 2: I think they're real?
Speaker 1: Really why?
Speaker 2: I think that there's just like a lot. There's so
Speaker 2: many people that have had sightings, and I think that
Speaker 2: our universe is very big. Damie Levado, and I believe
Speaker 2: DEMI sorry.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they live on another planet or
Speaker 1: in the ocean or here?
Speaker 2: Oh? The UFOs? I think they're coming from another some
Speaker 2: kind of other planet or space. I hadn't heard in
Speaker 2: the ocean. That's interesting because right there's so many unexplored
Speaker 2: places in the ocean. I think it's possible, totally.
Speaker 3: I think they're coming from somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they would come here and not
Speaker 2: either you know, just turn back around.
Speaker 1: Or they come here so they can feel better about
Speaker 1: where they live. Okay, what do you think of bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Bigfoot? I'm not as convinced. I'm not as convinced I
Speaker 2: think it. I think it's a bear.
Speaker 3: And also it's like in all different forests, people are
Speaker 3: looking at all different.
Speaker 2: It's like where this over the place.
Speaker 3: So that's it's like it's not centered enough, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think of like synchronicities? Do you
Speaker 1: into that kind of stuff? Yes, I definitely think of
Speaker 1: any that you've experienced in life.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: I yeah, no, I definitely believe in that.
Speaker 2: Hm hmm. I need that I've experienced those I feel
Speaker 2: like happen all the time.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: If you're paying attention exactly, those I definitely think happen
Speaker 2: all the time. And I do think, you know, I
Speaker 2: do believe in kind of a hokey way, like if
Speaker 2: it's you know, if it's not for you, like let
Speaker 2: it kind of pass by, Like nothing is like forced,
Speaker 2: like everything is kind of meant to be or everything
Speaker 2: maybe happens for a reason in some way. Maybe not everything,
Speaker 2: but a lot of things happen for a reason, and
Speaker 2: so yes.
Speaker 1: That I say, yeah, I absolutely feel the same way
Speaker 1: as you. You gotta pay attention to it. Have you
Speaker 1: ever had sleep paralysis?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, great, this is the weirdest doctor's appointment I've
Speaker 2: ever read to. You're taking my medical history and just
Speaker 2: asking the weirdests.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a like evaluation I feel.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's do weed boards. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Have you ever done one?
Speaker 2: I've done them. I think everybody is pushing and I
Speaker 2: don't trust any of these cheating bastards. Maybe it's maybe
Speaker 2: it's possible, but I have to think that there's uh
Speaker 2: possessions and items in the world to have more like
Speaker 2: kind of virtual realm and value that you can't just buite.
Speaker 1: A toy store, like the like the doll from eBay,
Speaker 1: like the dolphin Jacqueline, Jacqueline. Are you a crystal person?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you think about those like do
Speaker 1: you think that they really harness energy?
Speaker 2: Or I think that like they make me feel better
Speaker 2: in a small way, and ultimately that is what I
Speaker 2: am looking for.
Speaker 3: So they are powerful whether or not.
Speaker 2: And like I keep you know, I think the power
Speaker 2: that that's not like a non existent power. Like people
Speaker 2: have given me crystals and I keep them and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's my lucky crystal because I really love that person,
Speaker 2: or that they were thinking of me. Or if you're
Speaker 2: in a store and you're like drawn to something for
Speaker 2: some reason and then you give it to a friend,
Speaker 2: like I think that's really nice. Yeah, and they yeah,
Speaker 2: they make me feel good, So I believe in whatever
Speaker 2: that whatever that is.
Speaker 1: They're so pretty too. I likely I have a crystal problem.
Speaker 1: Uh oh not not not like that, like I buy
Speaker 1: too many crystals. Yeah, well, Carara, I guess that's it.
Speaker 1: I guess the doctor's appointment is complete.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I feel like you gave me
Speaker 3: a lot to think.
Speaker 1: About reconsidering ever talking to me ever again.
Speaker 2: Mainly that yeah me, but also I want to reassure
Speaker 2: you that you look like, if anything.
Speaker 3: It looks like you've like reverse aged.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, maybe like I am not the
Speaker 2: guest with like the most ghost stories that you've ever had,
Speaker 2: but I feel like something about me relaxed you and
Speaker 2: like your fate like you're glowing. You seem you know,
Speaker 2: like your shoulders have like settled a little bit.
Speaker 1: So thank you.
Speaker 3: I know that was your fear off the top of
Speaker 3: the episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. But I hope my botox didn't relax
Speaker 1: because that would be bad. That's not what I was
Speaker 1: going for, because that would give me that twenty year aging.
Speaker 2: I I am really though. You did give me a
Speaker 2: lot of different things that I never thought about or knew.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what astral projection was. I didn't
Speaker 2: know I was supposed to have experienced the paralysis as
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to.
Speaker 1: I've never had it. A lot of people have. I
Speaker 1: never have. But well, but yeah, can you tell everybody
Speaker 1: where to find you and what you got going?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, and give me an address for the Ebays? Yeah,
Speaker 1: please be real specific.
Speaker 2: You can send all of my mail to Mount sign
Speaker 2: I Hospital, where I will be voluntarily checking myself in
Speaker 2: after this call. So, me and my ghosts Stoppelganger Twin
Speaker 2: are going to be going on tour this whole summer
Speaker 2: all throughout the US and Europe. And uh, you can
Speaker 2: find information about that on my website, Cara Connors dot
Speaker 2: com or my Instagram Cara cons Comedy. That's the only
Speaker 2: place I'm active on social media the other ones. Uh,
Speaker 2: just keep me humble because no one likes me on
Speaker 2: the other platforms except Instagram. Oh no, no, that you
Speaker 2: don't have to like feel bad, like okay, yeah, well
Speaker 2: then good you didn't even feel That was like a canned.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're fighting.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, we're not fighting, but like, okay, I'll
Speaker 2: just clear the air. I'm just kind of like disappointed
Speaker 2: with the second SoundBite because like I was ready for
Speaker 2: my life to change, and then like I really like
Speaker 2: I bought it. I met you right there, like I
Speaker 2: opened up my heart heart to heart. I was like,
Speaker 2: let's do this, like it's almost pride. And then I
Speaker 2: felt like, well, your.
Speaker 1: Life has changed. Your mood changed, so in a way
Speaker 1: I did make your life change. Did you know about
Speaker 1: the Brown Pousse House before?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I never knew about the Brown Posse House. And that's
Speaker 3: another thing I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're close to the holidays, but I'm going
Speaker 2: to be calling them as well because I want to
Speaker 2: get some answers.
Speaker 3: But no, we're not fighting. That was my ghost twin.
Speaker 1: I'm fine, Thank you, Cara Connors. The Brown Pucy House
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. Go to patreon dot com slash rosdres Feles
Speaker 1: link in the description of this episode to hear a
Speaker 1: bonus clip of us talking about a haunted eBay doll
Speaker 1: and a bonus episode this week. Hey, can you rate
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go ahead and talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Hey, back.
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