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Speaker 1: You excited to talk about things that are not in

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you guys for all the nice

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Speaker 1: think you're going to enjoy those one. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to that, I have a ghost story. It was

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Speaker 1: sent to me at ghosted by razat gmail dot com,

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Speaker 1: which you could do too, just put in the subject

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Speaker 1: line something about it being a ghost story. This one

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Speaker 1: comes from anonymous anonymous rights. I've heard you mentioned a

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your theories. I work for an

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Speaker 1: ever since we moved into this space, and the space

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Speaker 1: itself has been riddled with problems. Appliances, electrical equipment and

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Speaker 1: We are right down the street from where quote Suicide

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Speaker 2: This is like, I'm excited, but it's not like I

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing you're talking to an audience of

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm still I don't know. I'm still

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, I really just don't talk about my

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Speaker 1: And second, what is the ranking? Who was there a competition?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was like said as a

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Speaker 1: Because you're talking to this is this person's mother, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Most famous psychic. So but she was there and I

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Speaker 1: I think she was like, wait a minute, you're asking

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Speaker 2: That that family there. There's some stuff, powerful stuff happening.

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Speaker 2: Even I was scared to say that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to right now, let's google second best

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that she probably knows we're talking about her

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Speaker 3: I have never been to a psychic.

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Speaker 1: story of Emily Sage. This is a story about a

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Speaker 1: doppel ganger. Are you familiar with that term?

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Speaker 1: See, I feel like that became like a really popular

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Speaker 1: It's from what I usually hear, it's like separately. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: It's like when the spiritual body leaves your physical body

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Speaker 1: and people do it like when they sleep. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: do whatever. Yeah, but so it's like, yeah, it's like

437
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: your spirit and your body get disconnected. Okay, So maybe

438
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: that's what it is. But this story is real interesting.

439
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: Okay.

440
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Now I will say off the bat that the validity

441
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: of this story has been in question because it takes

442
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: place in eighteen forty five. It was originally in a book.

443
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: It was written in a book in eighteen sixty by

444
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: Robert Dale Owen called The Foothills on the Boundary of

445
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: Another World. And I'll tell you more about the validity

446
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: of it. But a lot of people believe it. So

447
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: this woman, Emily's sage. She was a teacher and in

448
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: sixteen years of her teaching career, she had worked at

449
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: nineteen different schools across France, So right there, it's like,

450
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: why what's going on here? So it turns out it's

451
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: because she had a ghost twin that would like follow

452
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: her around, Okay, which to me, I'm like, teachers don't

453
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: get paid enough. They should have they should be allowed

454
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: to have a doppelganger to help them.

455
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: Taking some of her workload for her. That was what the.

456
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: Ghost seems like it Okay, you know, it's like that

457
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: would be great to have like a ghost twin grade

458
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: in the papers. So in eighteen forty five, she's teaching

459
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: at this all girls school in Latvia, and thirteen of

460
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: her students, these girl students, they saw her ghost twin

461
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: standing beside her, mirroring, mirroring like everything that she's doing,

462
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: which I'm picturing like a version just like making fun

463
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: of her behind her, you know what I mean. At

464
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: one point, apparently she was seen helping a student fix

465
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: her dress. Apparently Emily could not see the ghost, but

466
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: everyone else could, so she would actually get exhausted when

467
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: it would appear, and she was said to have reported

468
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: that it would do things that she thought about doing.

469
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: So it's believed that she had kind of like some

470
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: subconscious control of it, so she would be like, oh,

471
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: I should be doing that, and then like the ghost

472
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: twin would go do it whoa, which is kind of

473
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: amazing whoa, because but I also feel like that could

474
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: get you in trouble, Like I don't know, you're if

475
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: you're at like a store and someone's like mean to you,

476
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: you could like have your ghost win go like slap

477
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: them or something.

478
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: But you can't even see the ghost twin or really

479
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: control it. You just know that it's affected by your actions,

480
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: and other people are telling you that they see it.

481
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: One does Emily suspect that she's a ghost? Like did

482
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: she ever get worried that it's like the opposite, like

483
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: if everybody else is seeing it?

484
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem from the reports of this, it doesn't seem

485
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: like there's much info on how she felt about it,

486
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: because she must know she's been fired from every Oh well,

487
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to this in a second. So uh

488
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: one time, this is like the big story. She's gardening

489
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: outside of the classroom and there's like another teacher supervising

490
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the kids. They're in a sewing class, and the substitute

491
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: teacher lady leaves for a moment, and all of a sudden,

492
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: Emily's doppelganger comes in and sits down in the teacher's seat,

493
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: and the kids are like, wait a minute, she's right there,

494
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: and Emily is outside gardening, like they could see her.

495
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: So these two students are brave enough and they go

496
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: up to the toppleganger and they start touching her, and

497
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: they could run their fingers through her, and they said

498
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: that she felt like she was made out of cobwebs.

499
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Spiderweb lady. So later she said that she had wished

500
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: that she was in the room supervising the kids, so

501
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: it was like she like made that happen. It became

502
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: every single day at school, and parents started to take

503
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: their kids out of class because they're like, you're the

504
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: teacher's creeping us out. So people would actually walk through

505
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: the doppel ganger and they said that it would feel

506
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: like thick fabric. There were so many complaints that she

507
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: ended up getting fired.

508
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: WHOA.

509
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: But the thing that sounds is like people liked her.

510
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: She was a good teacher. Every school that she got

511
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: fired from, they were always like, oh, no, she was great.

512
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: It's just she has a ghost twin that's freaking out

513
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: the kids which I met, Like, what is that job interview?

514
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so we see here, you've worked at

515
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: a what is it nineteen school in the past sixteen years?

516
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: What's what's up with that?

517
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: What I mean what I feel like it's probably was

518
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: easier in eighteen forty to not like check references any resume. Yeah,

519
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna like you could say this is

520
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: my first job, or like I was at this one school.

521
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean, how are they? Yeah, how are they? Like?

522
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna write a letter to your last school.

523
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna put it on a carriage, and in six

524
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: weeks we'll get back to see what they say to her.

525
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, you're gonna get two teachers for

526
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: the price of one. Yeah, it could be worse.

527
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: And co teaching is very popular now, Like a lot

528
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: of classrooms have like thirty six students and they have

529
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: two adults, So makes obviously, Yeah, I think it makes sense.

530
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm wondering where did the ghost twin come from? Was

531
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: this like was she initially conceived as a twin and

532
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: then one of the twins died?

533
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Like or.

534
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: Because that what's the there's like a term for that

535
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: where like and then it kind of gets like absorbed,

536
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, if someone's pregnant with twins, they'll like

537
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: lose one of the babies, and sometimes like I don't know,

538
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: so maybe it's like something exact.

539
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing she was never heard from again,

540
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: Like basically, this whole story centers around this one. Like

541
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were a lot of like I want

542
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: to hear about all the other schools, but the one

543
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: that was like reported was this final school. And people

544
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: have looked into how true this is, and they found

545
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: a woman that had a very similar name that lived

546
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: in that same area. But some people suspect that maybe

547
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: she was saying using a fake name or she would

548
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: change her name to try to reinvent herself, so it's

549
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of hard to track her. I don't know if

550
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: this is a real story or not, but either way,

551
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing does get reported.

552
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of yeah, a lot of people

553
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: reporting it, and like what is the but people do

554
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: lie about things. But also like why would they come

555
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: forward with that, especially back then, I mean you wouldn't

556
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: want to be associated with that probably right, Like it

557
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: would be pretty dangerous to like admit that you have

558
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: any kind of like connection to that, because it could

559
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: be perceived as like connections to evil or dark spirits

560
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: or they they right. So there's it's like if someone

561
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: was going to stand up and say something, yeah, it

562
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't like help them to do that. So maybe that

563
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: lends itself to it being more true.

564
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: Does let the lady have her job?

565
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get I mean to her creepy.

566
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Ass cobweb as twin, just get used to it.

567
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: There's things, there's worse things than also, like if I

568
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: was Emily, like, wouldn't maybe you be the one in

569
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: the classroom helping your kids and maybe have your weird

570
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: ghost twin be the one doing the gardening. Like I think,

571
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: why don't we flip it so that you're the one

572
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: supervising and then have the creepy ghost out. We don't

573
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: know that. It sounds like they're a little creepy. Have

574
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: them be doing this stuff, like maybe it was a

575
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: priority issue. She's like, oh cool, I have this ghost twit.

576
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let them supervise the kids and I'm

577
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: gonna go do something relaxing.

578
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Right, That's not how it's supposed to go.

579
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: Right, So maybe that was the issue.

580
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have to wonder when she's getting freaky deeky,

581
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with the ghost twin.

582
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope that. I think if the

583
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: person that's getting freaky with Emily is smart, that they

584
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: would at least extend an open invitation to the I'm

585
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: just like, if if you were the principle of a

586
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: school in eighteen forty and you have twenty parents come

587
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: to you and say, we're really scared this person is

588
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: like has a ghost attached to them? Like, you don't

589
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: fire that person, Like have you not? Like I guess

590
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: there weren't movies then, but it's like if you're not

591
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: like read any book or movie, like you don't piss

592
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: off the ghost, like you don't fire you start a

593
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: new school, your kids go to a new school, that's what.

594
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: And then the ghost teacher just stays and it becomes

595
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: a haunted house, Like you don't kick them out. So

596
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing with sex, Like you

597
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't you wouldn't be like, hey, can you make sure,

598
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: like you would just have to be down and like

599
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: into that. I think, oh my god.

600
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: But that's why to me, I'm like you have to

601
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: tell you would think she would tell her employees like

602
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: listen for her employers like I'm a great I'm a

603
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: great teacher.

604
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Think you do that, You're just.

605
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: But you're going to see a cobweb feeling version of me.

606
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean if I was her, I would have just honestly,

607
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: like to protect myself, I would have just like gas

608
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: lit everybody around me.

609
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 3: If they tried to say they saw a ghosts I'd

610
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: be like, are you okay?

611
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Like I would be. Then I'd be like, what are

612
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: you talking about? Your you need to get treatment. I'm

613
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: scared for you. That's what I would have done, because

614
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been safe.

615
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: Let's call the second best psychic in Long Islands and.

616
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: Hurt.

617
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: You want to hear some ghost voices? Yes, okay, it's

618
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: time for or ev Plase. Have you ever heard of

619
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: an EVP?

620
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that that sounds.

621
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: It stands for electronic voice phenomena. It's when ghost hunters

622
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: believe that they have captured a ghost speaking. Oh okay,

623
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: so I go to YouTube. I look. I spend hours

624
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: of my life looking at alleged ghost voices, and I'm

625
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: going to play two of them for you, and I

626
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: want you to tell me what you hear this ghost saying,

627
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: and then I'll give you some options about what is

628
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: the correct answer. So this first one, they're both posted

629
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: by the Ky ghost Hunter, which I believe stands for Kentucky.

630
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Now this person, we don't know what the location is,

631
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: so who knows what the context is? I don't know.

632
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: But what is this ghost saying? Okay, it's real quick,

633
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: let me play it again.

634
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: To me, that sounded like a parakeet.

635
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: Okay, but what was the parakeet saying?

636
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: Okay, what we're done? Okay?

637
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: I didn't hear words.

638
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let me give you some options and maybe

639
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: this will help you. Is it A see you guys?

640
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Is it B you seem nice? Is it C? The

641
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: machine died? Maybe they were at a haunted McDonald's and

642
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: the ice cream machine it's broken, the machine died or

643
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: or d but we have fries. Okay, let me play

644
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: it again.

645
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean, truthfully, I don't really hear words. If I

646
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: hear the rhythm, I'm wondering if I heard the word

647
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: guys in there. So one of those had the option.

648
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: To see you guys, A see you? Guys.

649
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Maybe see you guys, but like it really just it

650
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: could be a possessed parakeet who flew into the side

651
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 2: of it. It could be the ghost twin of a parakeet, the.

652
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Ghost twin of a parakeet. See you guys, That is

653
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: what they believe, it says. I kind of hear it.

654
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: I kind of hear it. Wait listen, see you guys,

655
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: see you guys. Are you?

656
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: Are you saying the like rumbly voice under the screechiness

657
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 2: is what you hear?

658
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: Wait? I don't hear screechiness. Well, yeah, there is kind

659
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: of like a background hum, but it's it's like a

660
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: whisper that's going see you guys.

661
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't hear that at all. Like to me,

662
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: I'll play it for you. What I just heard you play?

663
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: I hear yes, and then there's like a little underlayer

664
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: of like like that.

665
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: But let me try it again.

666
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh it's I mean, I hear like a grumbly overturn.

667
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: But that one would not convince me. That would not

668
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: make me say this guy caught a ghost.

669
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: Okay, well I got one that is going to change

670
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: the game completely.

671
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: You don't have to prove anything to me.

672
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: This one. Well, this I got real excited about. You know,

673
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: I've heard about hundreds of haunted locations. I have never

674
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: heard of this place before. Okay, there's a place in Elizabethtown, Kentucky.

675
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: It's an old historic house and it is called the

676
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Brown Pouse House.

677
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

678
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: I actually called them because I wanted to make sure

679
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: I was saying it right. And it's pucy. It's the

680
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: Brown Pucy House, but it's brown hyphen p u s

681
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: e y. You could even go to Brownpucyhouse dot org,

682
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: which I have been.

683
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: So you called them to find out how to say

684
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: it correctly. But you insisted on the first time.

685
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: Brown puss because because I keep getting it wrong. It's

686
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: a hard word to say pucy. It is brown, puce brown.

687
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: I gave it just a little bit of flavor, pucety,

688
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: I gave it a little accent. And it was built

689
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: in eighteen twenty five. For many years it was a

690
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: boarding house, and then in nineteen twenty three the Brown

691
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Pucy House was restored and it was given to the

692
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: community by doctor William Allen Pucy and doctor Alfred Brown Pucy,

693
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: as well as missus Sally Cunningham Pucy and the related

694
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Hastings family, the Brown Pucy Genealogy Library. You can find there,

695
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: the Pucy Room Museum, and you could even rent the

696
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Brown Pucy House for any of your Brown Pucy desires. Wow,

697
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: so here we go. Here's an EVP at the Brown

698
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: Pucy House. Okay, okay, there's a lot of background noise

699
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: in this. Okay, You're like, this is gonna change everything.

700
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: And then you play me the sound of an electric

701
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: fan getting caught on a shoelace a warehouse. You're like, no, no, no, no,

702
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: this I call them. This is gonna be this is

703
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty big for you. So all right, let's

704
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: hear it again. Let's hear it again. I am starting

705
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: to feel like these sound clips that you're playing are

706
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: just like kind of you giving me like an ink

707
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: blot test, Like is it A?

708
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: What's all the commotion? Is it B? Yeah? No shit?

709
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Is it C? Come on, sister, is it D? Welcome

710
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: to the Brown Pucy House. Okay, let me play it again.

711
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: What's all the commotion about?

712
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: They believe it's B?

713
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

714
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: No shit?

715
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: What did they say when you called them? Did you

716
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: ask them about this clip? No?

717
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Because this wasn't posted by them. This is posted by

718
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: the ky ghost hunter.

719
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this is like unauthorized ghost noise.

720
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a ghost hunter happened to be

721
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: there and captured a ghost voice. When I called the

722
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: Brown puc House, they did not answer. So it says

723
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: in this clip that it says, quote this EVP was

724
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: caught within minutes of being inside the historic house. A

725
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: female investigator says, you had better believe I brought my crucifix,

726
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and then it it says, yeah, no shit. Listen now

727
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: that we know it's yeah, okay, this is how it sounds. Yeah,

728
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: no shit. Okay, now listen for that. Now listen for that.

729
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: Come on, you're no fun.

730
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying so hard, my heart is just open. It

731
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: just sounds like foil being rubbed against each other.

732
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: It could be that too.

733
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: I am not saying that.

734
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

735
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: I can talk a big game here, But if I

736
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: went to the Brown Pussy House, would I be saying this, No,

737
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

738
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: I would be respectfully saying thank you for sharing.

739
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: That with me. Okay, I'll admit that. I'll own that.

740
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: But this has plans to go on down to the

741
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: Brown piece.

742
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: You know, I.

743
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: Didn't have plans, but I am intrigued. Are they open?

744
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: Actually not? When I called, I don't.

745
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: Know if I want to go on an adventure, if

746
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: I haven't uh confirmed someone will be there, I I

747
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: will say that did you're I'll say that that that

748
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: did actually change some things for me, I think.

749
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: But not in the way I was hoping. Okay, one

750
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: last thing. I'm just going to rapid fire a couple

751
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: of paranormal phenomenas and tell me if you have a story,

752
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: if you believe in them, whatever, Okay, Okay, what do

753
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: you think of UFOs?

754
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: I think they're real?

755
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: Really why?

756
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: I think that there's just like a lot. There's so

757
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: many people that have had sightings, and I think that

758
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: our universe is very big. Damie Levado, and I believe

759
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: DEMI sorry.

760
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they live on another planet or

761
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: in the ocean or here?

762
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh? The UFOs? I think they're coming from another some

763
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: kind of other planet or space. I hadn't heard in

764
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: the ocean. That's interesting because right there's so many unexplored

765
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: places in the ocean. I think it's possible, totally.

766
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 3: I think they're coming from somewhere else.

767
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why they would come here and not

768
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: either you know, just turn back around.

769
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: Or they come here so they can feel better about

770
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: where they live. Okay, what do you think of bigfoot?

771
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: Bigfoot? I'm not as convinced. I'm not as convinced I

772
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: think it. I think it's a bear.

773
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: And also it's like in all different forests, people are

774
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: looking at all different.

775
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: It's like where this over the place.

776
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: So that's it's like it's not centered enough, right, Yeah.

777
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think of like synchronicities? Do you

778
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: into that kind of stuff? Yes, I definitely think of

779
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: any that you've experienced in life.

780
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: Let's see.

781
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: I yeah, no, I definitely believe in that.

782
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: Hm hmm. I need that I've experienced those I feel

783
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: like happen all the time.

784
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

785
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: If you're paying attention exactly, those I definitely think happen

786
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: all the time. And I do think, you know, I

787
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: do believe in kind of a hokey way, like if

788
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: it's you know, if it's not for you, like let

789
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: it kind of pass by, Like nothing is like forced,

790
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: like everything is kind of meant to be or everything

791
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: maybe happens for a reason in some way. Maybe not everything,

792
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: but a lot of things happen for a reason, and

793
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: so yes.

794
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: That I say, yeah, I absolutely feel the same way

795
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: as you. You gotta pay attention to it. Have you

796
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: ever had sleep paralysis?

797
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: No? Okay, great, this is the weirdest doctor's appointment I've

798
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: ever read to. You're taking my medical history and just

799
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: asking the weirdests.

800
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: What do you think?

801
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a like evaluation I feel.

802
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's do weed boards. What do you think?

803
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: Have you ever done one?

804
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: I've done them. I think everybody is pushing and I

805
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: don't trust any of these cheating bastards. Maybe it's maybe

806
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: it's possible, but I have to think that there's uh

807
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: possessions and items in the world to have more like

808
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: kind of virtual realm and value that you can't just buite.

809
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: A toy store, like the like the doll from eBay,

810
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: like the dolphin Jacqueline, Jacqueline. Are you a crystal person?

811
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, me too.

812
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you think about those like do

813
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: you think that they really harness energy?

814
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: Or I think that like they make me feel better

815
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: in a small way, and ultimately that is what I

816
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 2: am looking for.

817
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 3: So they are powerful whether or not.

818
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 2: And like I keep you know, I think the power

819
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: that that's not like a non existent power. Like people

820
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: have given me crystals and I keep them and they're like, oh,

821
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: that's my lucky crystal because I really love that person,

822
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: or that they were thinking of me. Or if you're

823
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: in a store and you're like drawn to something for

824
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: some reason and then you give it to a friend,

825
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: like I think that's really nice. Yeah, and they yeah,

826
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 2: they make me feel good, So I believe in whatever

827
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: that whatever that is.

828
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: They're so pretty too. I likely I have a crystal problem.

829
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: Uh oh not not not like that, like I buy

830
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: too many crystals. Yeah, well, Carara, I guess that's it.

831
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I guess the doctor's appointment is complete.

832
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I feel like you gave me

833
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: a lot to think.

834
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: About reconsidering ever talking to me ever again.

835
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Mainly that yeah me, but also I want to reassure

836
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: you that you look like, if anything.

837
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: It looks like you've like reverse aged.

838
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, maybe like I am not the

839
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: guest with like the most ghost stories that you've ever had,

840
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: but I feel like something about me relaxed you and

841
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: like your fate like you're glowing. You seem you know,

842
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: like your shoulders have like settled a little bit.

843
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: So thank you.

844
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: I know that was your fear off the top of

845
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: the episode.

846
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. But I hope my botox didn't relax

847
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: because that would be bad. That's not what I was

848
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: going for, because that would give me that twenty year aging.

849
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: I I am really though. You did give me a

850
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: lot of different things that I never thought about or knew.

851
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what astral projection was. I didn't

852
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: know I was supposed to have experienced the paralysis as

853
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to.

854
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: I've never had it. A lot of people have. I

855
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: never have. But well, but yeah, can you tell everybody

856
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: where to find you and what you got going?

857
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

858
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, and give me an address for the Ebays? Yeah,

859
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: please be real specific.

860
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: You can send all of my mail to Mount sign

861
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: I Hospital, where I will be voluntarily checking myself in

862
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 2: after this call. So, me and my ghosts Stoppelganger Twin

863
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 2: are going to be going on tour this whole summer

864
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: all throughout the US and Europe. And uh, you can

865
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: find information about that on my website, Cara Connors dot

866
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: com or my Instagram Cara cons Comedy. That's the only

867
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: place I'm active on social media the other ones. Uh,

868
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: just keep me humble because no one likes me on

869
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: the other platforms except Instagram. Oh no, no, that you

870
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: don't have to like feel bad, like okay, yeah, well

871
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: then good you didn't even feel That was like a canned.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're fighting.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, we're not fighting, but like, okay, I'll

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Speaker 2: just clear the air. I'm just kind of like disappointed

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Speaker 2: with the second SoundBite because like I was ready for

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Speaker 2: my life to change, and then like I really like

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Speaker 2: I bought it. I met you right there, like I

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Speaker 2: opened up my heart heart to heart. I was like,

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Speaker 2: let's do this, like it's almost pride. And then I

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Speaker 2: felt like, well, your.

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Speaker 1: Life has changed. Your mood changed, so in a way

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Speaker 1: I did make your life change. Did you know about

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Speaker 1: the Brown Pousse House before?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I never knew about the Brown Posse House. And that's

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Speaker 3: another thing I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're close to the holidays, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be calling them as well because I want to

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Speaker 2: get some answers.

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Speaker 3: But no, we're not fighting. That was my ghost twin.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine, Thank you, Cara Connors. The Brown Pucy House

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. Go to patreon dot com slash rosdres Feles

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Speaker 1: link in the description of this episode to hear a

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Speaker 1: bonus clip of us talking about a haunted eBay doll

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Speaker 1: and a bonus episode this week. Hey, can you rate

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Speaker 1: the show five stars and tell your friends about it? Subscribe,

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Speaker 1: write a nice review, or leave a ghost story in

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Speaker 1: a five star review, or email me at ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com with a ghost story or

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Speaker 1: a submission for a listener episode. I am on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at roz Hernandez TikTok, and Twitter is at its roz Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go ahead and talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Hey, back.

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Speaker 1: A podcast network.