1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It crew, and 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is. 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Today is actually really special because Jessica Capshaw is in 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Nashville right now and she is filming nine to one 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: one and I needed a guest host, so I brought 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: on someone that someone call a violin virtuoso, a social 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: media queen, but I like to call her my sister 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: wife because she's married to mister Chris Carmack or somebody 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: called Carmack. 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Aaron Slaver, Welcome to Call It What 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: It Is. 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: What an introduction, so much more than I could list, 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: like extraordinary, there's so many things. 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you on. Thank you for 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: having me on. 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm such an honor and guest host with me and 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: all the listeners are really excited, and there's so much 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: I want to get into because I feel like so 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: many people know you from your social media. 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: And it's as soon as I told iHeart that I 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: was like, I want Aaron on. They're like, oh my god, 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: she's so funny, and. 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: I was like, we'll get into that, but there's so 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: much more that I want to talk about so that 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: listeners can get to know you. Okay, so let's just 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: are you ready to jump in? Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay. 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: So the crew wanted to know the first time that 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: we met, and I said, I it's all a blur 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: for me, especially pre pandemic. Yeah, I'm sure so we 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: but you said that we met for the first time 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: at a cast party for our showrunner's wedding celebrations. 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, And like for me, it was a huge deal. 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Here I am meeting these people I had watched on 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: my TV set. Did you watch Chris before it started? Okay, okay, 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: before he got on your face your character. I mean 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: it was crazy. Oh and by the way, I always 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: thought like you were so gorgeous on TV. I don't 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: really always the whole glam team, Aaron. 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: You've seen me without makeup, like in the middle of 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: the pandemic having a nervous break down. 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Now you're still so gorgeous. You really are. But and 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: and what is crazy is when Chris started the show, 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: it was like to Patty, can't be with that joke character, Like, 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I love you, she's so cute and you would be 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: so cute. I honestly thought that you were rooting for 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: them as a couple. I like secretly was, oh my god, 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: I love it. We haven't talked about this, right, okay, 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: because you know, you had your husband and he had Amelia, 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: and you know, things were set, things were set on 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: the show. But yeah, yeah, so I met you at 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: this party and memorable night for me. I met a 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: bunch of the cast cairst time and Chris had just 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: started the show. Was you know, is he making a 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: good impression? Yeah? And I remember you guys were so sweet, 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: big smile and you were like yes, so yeah, you 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: guys were super welcoming, even to a wife of a regular. 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I feel like. 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: The partners are like more important than the cast because 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: behind the scenes when we're having late nights, you guys 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: are holding down the ship. 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. And you guys, it's a lot of work. 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. Job. No, you do an 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: amazing job. 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: I know because I'm sat next to Chris for you know, 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: like midnight, and I know that they're. 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Like texting him like the baby's sick, what are you 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: getting home? What are you listens? Our kids are always sick. 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I know, it's tough, right, That's the truth. 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: Like oftentimes Chris and I share on set, I'm like, 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: what happened with you this week? 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: And He's like, well, we've got. 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: Salmonella and this virus and that, and it's almost like 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I've got those two in these two 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: right right. 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: It's and then and then he'll that's the week where 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: he's working till. Yes, that'll be the one high hundred 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: percent when you were calling. Honestly, I feel like we 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: should just bring them to set. We have so many 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: doctors on set, you guys take care of her. Yeah, 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: we should have them. We should have them all the filming. 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: I wish. 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So that was the first time that we met. 84 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: And then people might not know this, but. 85 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: We partnered up. 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: You were our family, our COVID family, that's right, and 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: then bubled. We bubbled together. Yeah, did you bubble with 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: anybody else? I didn't bubble with anyone else. There was 89 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: no other family. 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we had we had a set of neighbors 91 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: that didn't have children that we would do like parking 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: lot wine nights with. And that was parking lot wine Nights. Remember, 93 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: it was so weird. Yeah, but you were the only 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: family that week. Yes, and I think it's because Chris 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: and I were testing for Grace. 96 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: We probably safe enough. But Aaron and Chris's kids, well 97 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: it was just Kai at the time. We're the only kids, 98 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: and I was pregnant with Lucas, so. 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: You had just we were like, remember we were the 100 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: first people to meet. 101 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: You were the first people to meet my baby. I 102 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: can you believe that over families like. 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Six months I think around or when by that time, Yes, yeah, 104 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: came by that time. 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: Yes, they were the very first people to meet the baby, 106 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: over literally anybody. And but so I had Lucas and 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: then we were and then the girls played together and 108 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: it was such a relief because Hayden had not seen 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: another kid. Yeah, same, and so it was like so 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: amazing to like have you guys come over or come 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: over to you and just like swim and be like, 112 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can actually touch another human being. 113 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gave them like a sense of normalcy. Yeah, 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: we were all severely lacking. 115 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: We were trying to make it during the time, but 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we did a good job of like 117 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: kind of in the pandemic making it work. 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Together as best we could. We had to be really careful. Yeah, 119 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and I mean I look back and it felt like 120 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: an eternity. Was it like nine months before we got 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: the vaccine and everyone started, yes, sort of going out again. Yeah, 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: but it Yeah, it felt a lot longer. It did. Yeah, 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: we did park bates at Lacy we did. 124 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did parked at parks and then we did 125 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: we did super Bowl. 126 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: At our place. Yeah, you were the super Bowl party. 127 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: I remember we baked cookies. 128 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 129 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Thanksgiving, get Thanksgiving. This is good times. It was, 130 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: and it's like it but those memories are like all 131 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: a blurb. But it really did feel like almost a 132 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: two year period. 133 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, even though it was and it felt like a 134 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: two year period that we were hunkering down together. So 135 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: people don't know that we we rode the pandemic together, 136 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: Me and Aaron, Yeah, these together. 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we really got to know each other's families. And 138 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: that was before you and Chris were linked up. Yeah 139 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: on the show. 140 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way, I've thought about this because I 141 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: felt like that history between Joe and Link on the show. 142 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: I think what really helped, like that friendship history was 143 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: actually sort of that time because we all got to 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: know each other so well in a way that I 145 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't have probably gotten too before. Yeah, and or without it, 146 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: And so I think it added a layer into like 147 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: the Joe and link of it all because. 148 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: We I don't know, it's like we really hunkered down. 149 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: We all went through something. The getod acting right there. 150 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: We have a trauma bond. Trauma bond. 151 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So let's go back a little bit because 152 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: people might not know that you are incredible, an incredible musician. 153 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: And I was reading the notes and I feel like 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: an idiot asking this. 155 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: So it's in my notes about you it says that 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: you started the classical violin at age three and then 157 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 2: later focused on the fiddle. 158 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's the difference? Oh, yeah, no, 159 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: that's don't that's not stupid at all. What is that 160 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: many people ask this, It's really it's really a style. 161 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Just stylistically is it the same, Like it's the same instrument, 162 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: it's the same instrument. It's the way a musician processes 163 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the music. I'd say would differentiate between fiddler or violinist. 164 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Like classical violinists, we're taught to learn the music, we're 165 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: interpreting music. Someone else wrote like hundreds of years ago, 166 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: interpreting it to be perfect. You want it to just, 167 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, sound beautiful. You're focusing on your tone, you're 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: focusing on your technique and of course the musicality of it. 169 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: You want to express it, but you're still trying to 170 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: be true to this other composer's vision. And then you 171 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: get into fiddle music and suddenly you're really just you're 172 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: sort of like a jazz musician. You're listening to chords 173 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: and chord changes and you're playing over them, so you're 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: kind of I mean, great fiddlers are just improvising as 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: they go. They have licks that they keep up their 176 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: sleeve that they can play. And I mean, like, I 177 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: don't think I'm not that level of fiddler because I 178 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: trained classically. So it's really hard to get out of 179 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: your head. When you train classically, you're like, must play 180 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: the right notes all the time. You're like this little 181 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: violin robot ed. So when they say just play, you're 182 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: like just play? What? 183 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: No? 184 00:08:59,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: But I. 185 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean I love the freeness of playing, you know, 186 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: any kind of music, fiddle, rock, folk, whatever, you know, 187 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: like getting to write your own parts or play your 188 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: own solos. So that's what you know. After college, I 189 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: really wanted to, uh, you know, get into that side 190 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: of music, not just the classical aspect of it. 191 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, so a fiddler, okay, so the same It 192 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: is the same instrument technically, the same instrument, yes, because 193 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, there's an instrument called 194 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: the fiddle, and this whole time I thought it. 195 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: Was the violin. Okay, So right, it's not so stupid. No, No, 196 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: like a like a violin, like a classical violinist will 197 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: probably play on a hundred K instrument, I mean, very 198 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: expensive instruments, and a fiddler would not care as much 199 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: because you're just it's more of a workhorse in a band. 200 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: A fiddle. You know, you're playing your solos, you're filling 201 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: up space, You're you're creating a pad underneath whatever the 202 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: singer is doing or whoever is soloing at the time, 203 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: Whereas the violin you're soloing or you're playing in an orchestra. 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: So okay, it's okay what you're using it for. I 205 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: hear you. Okay, So now I have a question. 206 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: You have been a backup violinist and singer or some 207 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: major major artists, and I'm a list a few, Rod Stewart, 208 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Rascal Flats, My Tina McBride, Sugar Lynn, Keith, open, Amy Grant, 209 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: so many. Okay, So when you were back up, were 210 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: you playing the fiddle? 211 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: You know what? On some of those I was on 212 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: some I was playing more of a violin style like 213 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Rod Stewart, he would I, I cannot believe that you 214 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: played Okay. Well, I didn't tour with him, so it's different. 215 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: You know, some people I toured with and some people 216 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I played back up for when they came to Nashville. So, 217 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: like Rod Stewart came to Nashville, I was contracted to play. 218 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: He had I don't know, like ten violinists come out 219 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: on stage and we played a couple of different songs. 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: He needed violin in the background for okay, so that 221 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: would be more like a classical style. This is what 222 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: I hope to do. When I went to Nashville, I thought, 223 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: hopefully I can bridge this place where you can be 224 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: a violinist. I can read music, I have good technique, 225 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: and then also I can transition and do a more 226 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: fiddle style playing, you know. And so if someone like 227 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Trace Akins or Martina McBride or something. It was more 228 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: of a fiddle fiddle style that I was playing, So yeah, 229 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: it depended on the gig it was. I was basically 230 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: freelancing and just okay whatever. You know. This is so 231 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: wild to me. So as an actor, that's like, as 232 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: an actor. 233 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that you sort of like land in Hollywood, 234 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: you most likely don't know anybody, and then you're sort 235 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: of auditioning if you're a musician because you're originally from 236 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: New York. Yeah, yeah, you're from New York, right, Okay, 237 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: so originally from New York. 238 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: You moved to Nashville. 239 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: And then what are you just like arriving with your 240 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: violin and like, how does that work? How does because 241 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: I know the process on our side, but how does 242 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: that work for a musician like arriving in Nashville trying 243 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: to get work. 244 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it's so similar what the lives we lived. 245 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Like I I picked up and moved from New York. 246 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: I had my fingers crossed something was going to happen. 247 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I rented an apartment for six months, and we were 248 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: like if nothing happens, I go back home or whatever 249 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: I go. You have to like wait tables or to 250 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: have like I did. I was a hostess. Yeah, at 251 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: a restaurant called Sambuca. To tell you to tell Jessica okay, 252 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: I wrote, am I have closed actually and it was 253 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, they had like live dinner music. But I 254 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: was a hostess. I lived walking distance, so I okay, 255 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: So you arrive and you're doing like the hostess. Yeah, 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: first thing I did. I got a jot and I 257 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: think though I did get really lucky. Within two weeks, 258 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: I met someone who booked me for the CMA Awards, 259 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: which which is like the Grammys of Nashville. So I know, yea, 260 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: within two weeks yeah, I mean I met the right person. 261 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: I knew a few people. I knew a few contacts 262 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: in the music industry. And I happen to be backstage 263 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: at the Grand Old Opry and I met the bass 264 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: player who's still there. I think he's the like MD 265 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: now and he's like, oh, you got to email my wife. 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: She'll give you a job. It's like, okay, so I email. 267 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: People are very nice in Nashville. They're very friendly. They 268 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: take you for your word. If you say I'm a 269 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: fiddler and I can sing, they will hire you. And 270 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: they'll say okay, fiddle and sing and like you will 271 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: get hired and sort of they will. They'll test you 272 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: out and if they like you, then you keep getting work. 273 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: So I was very fortunate I got hired for that, 274 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: and that's when I played for Rascal Flats at the 275 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: CMA Awards. 276 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: And. 277 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: That was your first gig in Nashville. In Nashville, it 278 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: was no. My friends at home were like, what is happening? 279 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: Because I you know, I had like ten seconds, no, 280 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: not even ten two seconds of airtime where you could 281 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: see my face. 282 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: But that's that's That's like those dreamy stories that I 283 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: hear as an actor where you land and someone discovers you. 284 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: It's almost like, I know, maybe you wouldn't call it 285 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: being just discovered technically because you're like networking, but that 286 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: early and that to be your first gig is insane. 287 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, I was. I felt very fortunate and 288 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: everyone was like, how did you do that? But I 289 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: really did get lucky, and you know, that opportunity opened 290 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: up a whole new network of people and like that's 291 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: how I ended up working background on Nashville the show. 292 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so before we get to background on Nashville, people 293 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: want to know who your favorite singer, whoever band was 294 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: to play for. 295 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh, such, well, I gotta say Carolyn don Johnson, even 296 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: though maybe not everyone would know who she is. But 297 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: she had a big hit in the nineties. Okay, when 298 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: I before, I was working a whole lot. I saw 299 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: her singing at the Bluebird Cafe, which is like this 300 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: renowned songwriter's venue. It's very small, intimate like this, and 301 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: everyone sings the songs they wrote. And so Carolyn had 302 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: had a hit in the nineties. She's from Canada, and 303 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: I turned to my friend, that song was amazing. Yeah, 304 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: and then I think, like a year later I was 305 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: playing for Carolyn and my god, that is weird. 306 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I understand how that would feel, even though 307 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: it's not as big a name as some of these 308 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: other names. 309 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I feel like a full circle. It really did. Yeah, 310 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: it was so cool and I mean, and then you know, 311 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: we opened up for the Eagles in Oh my band 312 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: I played for later on, and I guess I didn't 313 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: technically play for the Eagles, but that was my favorite 314 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: thing to do ever. Because we were touring with the Eagles, 315 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: we would watch their show afterwards. It was I mean, 316 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: that was a dream come true. So that's wild. 317 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: That is incredible. Okay, so then how do you land Nashville? 318 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was going back to that first gig I had. 319 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: I met some contractors in Nashville and a gentleman who 320 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: worked with the opry The Opry House is like a 321 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: powerhouse in Nashville of music, and uh, yeah, I got 322 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: a call. I think it was the night before they 323 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: were starting filming the pilot. And this is Chris wasn't 324 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: even on the show yet, and he's so, you were 325 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: on the show before Christmas. Technically I want oh my god, 326 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: I passmates, I'm calling you out. I do at home 327 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: all the time. Oh my god, you're just following my hotel. 328 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: Just remember I was on But yeah, they were like, 329 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: can you be at the Opry House tomorrow? What is 330 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: he either filming this pilot? It's it's it. They think 331 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: it's going to go. They need a background singer for 332 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Connie Britton, and you know she's from Friday Night Lights. 333 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: She was and she was a huge star to be 334 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: there in Nashville. Everyone was flipping out that they had 335 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Connie and that was why a big reason they thought 336 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: it was going to go. You know, Connie braven is 337 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: first star, and do. 338 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: You remember hearing about the pilot and thinking, oh, it's 339 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: definitely gonna go. 340 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was was such a cool experience, and 341 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: she was playing like a faith Hill sort of character, 342 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, so I was like, sure, I'll be there, 343 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: and I was her background singer in the band and 344 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: was amazing. Like Callie Corey, the creator of that show 345 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: and her husband t Bone has you know, renowned producer, 346 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: they really were adamant about like hiring real musicians and 347 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: real people who lived and worked in Nashville to be 348 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: in the show and play the roles that they were 349 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: supposed to play. So they had, you know, they had 350 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: real guitar players, just like you have real doctors on set. Yeah, 351 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: they had real guitar players making sure everyone was doing 352 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: the fingering right and the playing right. And the entire 353 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: band that they would hire for every scene was always 354 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: real session players or touring musicians. So I met a 355 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: ton of people like back doing background with me who 356 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: have gone on to you know, play for Kelly Clarkson 357 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: and and. 358 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: So then where you hired for every episode, like every 359 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: episode they needed someone where you consistently and it was 360 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: for a. 361 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: While, Yeah, they started changing things up. I think it's 362 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: probably maybe second season. And that was partially because they 363 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: they couldn't, you know, give us any kind of retainer, 364 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: like can you be here. So people would get jobs 365 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: and we'd be touring, we'd be doing other. 366 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: Tours or whatever, and they have to bring someone else 367 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: and then they can bring you back. So okay, so 368 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: this is where you met. We had a lot of 369 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: questions about this. This is where you met Chris Carmack 370 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: for the first time. Do you remember seeing Chris for 371 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: the first time. 372 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I do. Did you think that, Do you think, okay, 373 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: we need to tell that story. 374 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you think, oh my god, he's so hot? 375 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Or were you like, I roll another actor? 376 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: You know what? His reputation preceded him. I was really 377 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: good friends with Sam, his his co actor, the guy 378 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: who played Gunner I played. I played in Sam's band, 379 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: and Sam had told me all about him. He was like, Oh, 380 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: this new guy is here. He works out all the time. 381 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: He's telling me about how he's in the gym with him, 382 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: he's super ripped. Can he tell me he was on OC? Yeah? 383 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: So I I guess I just had this assumption he 384 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: was going to be so arrogant. Yeah. I don't know why, 385 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: just you know, a buff guy who had been on 386 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: the se you make. 387 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: First off, he played Luke on the OC. Yeah, and 388 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: Luke was a dick. 389 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he was. It's like he's known as the 390 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: bad boy. Then he's like, there's a new guy, Kennedy. 391 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: He's in the gym all the time. I'm like, yeah, yeah, right. 392 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this guy's gonna be yes. And 393 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: so when I met him, it was iron like, oh great, 394 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: this guy hi. And I know I couldn't have been 395 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: more wrong, because I'm sure, as you you know Chris, 396 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: he's he's such a gentleman, very humble. Ye. Nothing, he 397 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: doesn't look his personality and the way he looks, don't Matt, 398 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: don't go they thank God. 399 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: I mean I have to say that I think that 400 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: because of social media, fans have gotten to know at 401 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: this point that he's not like the Abercrombie. 402 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's not Luke, right, He's he's now an actor. Yeah. 403 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but I know 404 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: Chris de side of the story of you. Oh what 405 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: is it? 406 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 407 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: Remember no, no, no, no. 408 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: He remembers that it was so sweet because I think 409 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: this is like way way way back when, and we 410 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: were talking about how we you know, met our partners, 411 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: and I was talking about like, you know, waiting titles 412 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: with Matt, and I thought Matt was like, really boring. 413 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. I thought he was so boring. 414 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: I was like, he doesn't talk. 415 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: It's more best if we were like on the same 416 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: shift together. 417 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: I was disappointed. 418 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: Really, yes, that is so fun and obviously things changed people. 419 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: But so when I asked Chris about you, he had 420 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: the sweetest story. This is exactly what I would want 421 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: to hear if I was like you. And it basically 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: was that he saw you and then you were obviously beautiful, 423 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: and then he realized how talented you were and he 424 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: was just like really taken by you and your He 425 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: he said that just basically like your personality was just 426 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: so bright and you were so shimmery and shiny basically, 427 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: and it was. 428 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: Like such a cute story. And here I am being like, well, 429 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: I thought my hansband was so boring. Ask him what 430 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: he thinks about me? Now? No, no, of course it's 431 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: all shiny is not very. 432 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: Like children, and the shiny can be really hard. 433 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: Having that like mystic attitude all the time. 434 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so then you learned that he was like not douchebag, right, Yes, 435 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: I spent some time hanging out with him. Yeah, what's 436 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: interesting is sort of like Joe and Link. 437 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: We were just friends for a while, yes, and then 438 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: he dated several girls that I would always get along 439 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: with because I would get invited to hang. 440 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: Out with this group of So you were kind of 441 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: watching him go through cycle through something else. 442 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I thought I was not his type. Okay, 443 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: I was like Chris carmag and I are never going 444 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: to happen. Not that I was feel like he was 445 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: your type. 446 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: Like had you dated guys before though, was you know, 447 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: like that looked like him or was like him? 448 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: No, he's not your type. I think I always went 449 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: for like small artistic music guys, you know, very you know, 450 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: tortured artist, yea, tortured artists. Tortured artist. Yeah, Chris is not. 451 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't give tortured artists does. He might be one, 452 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: but he doesn't give it. He doesn't give it. 453 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I could see that he could. Yeah, he mind 454 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: me a little bit, but no, he's not. It's not 455 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: like you know. Yeah, so yeah, I know. I So 456 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: you did not feel like you were his type. He 457 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: was technically not your type, but were as he was 458 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: like dating out the girls, were you developing feelings? 459 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: Well, this is an interesting story and I made sure 460 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: it was okay. I told it, okay, I love it. Exclusive. 461 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: We were We were just friends for probably about a 462 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: year and he texted like the group chat even back then, 463 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, guys, my girlfriend can't come to 464 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: this comedy show. I got tickets for a while ago, 465 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: and he seemed kind of pissed. Yeah, okay, and he 466 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: was like, is anybody free tonight to come? And I 467 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I was feeling outgoing, I was feeling extroverted, 468 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, i'll come, and. 469 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: Okay, when you be honest, when you were like yeah, 470 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: i'll come, was there a party part of you that 471 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: was like i'll come. 472 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: You know. I don't know. I don't think so. I 473 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to get to know him. I think I 474 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: had seen him perform as well recently. I had seen 475 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: him perform and I was super impressed. I was like, 476 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: this guy's a great musician. So yeah, I had like 477 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Chris and I loved their 478 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: friend group. I loved, you know, hanging out with all 479 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: of them, and I thought, oh, this is the opportunity 480 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: to like, yeah, see yeah he hang out and no, 481 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: we were all talking about hanging out as a group later, 482 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: so I thought, oh, I'll go to the show. I 483 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: don't have anything to do so anyway, So yeah, I 484 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: don't know what he was expecting when I when I 485 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: answered the text. But but we went together and it, 486 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be lying if I didn't say it 487 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: felt like we were on a date all of a sudden, 488 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: because Chris is such a gentleman, you know, like he's 489 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna open the door for you, and he's gonna pull 490 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 1: out the chair for you, and he's gonna pay, and 491 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be like he really treats you so well. 492 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: And I think that's just how he was raised to 493 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: treat women very respectfully and he does that to everyone. 494 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: And but we had a great time. Uh you know, 495 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: we ended up paying. Feel like he does have all 496 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: those things. 497 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm assuming that there was that that's you know, 498 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: his like gentleman thisess. 499 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that there was also that like chemistry. Yeah, 500 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: I think there was to make it feel like a date. 501 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: There was deff. I think there was chemistry. I asked him, 502 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: and I think he said that he felt there was 503 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: a little chemistry. I'm assuming. 504 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, who made the first move, first kiss move? 505 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: That that was Chris? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he invited 506 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: me over to that Like a couple of months go 507 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: by and we had this like faux date. 508 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: Was it clear that at that point it was a 509 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: date because your guys are friend and so, like, was. 510 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: It liked it? How did it? What made it different 511 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: than just be like, hey you want to go grab something? 512 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: Like was it obvious like hey do you want to? 513 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 514 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: You mean that when he made the move? Yes, yes, 515 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: because he specifically texted me, can you come over and 516 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: hang out? Like he never would just specifically text me, 517 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, he would maybe text the group chat or 518 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: or there would be an event we're all going to 519 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: moved off the group chat. 520 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: Yes. 521 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a personal text from him, And I 522 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: think I was about to go out on tour for 523 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: like three weeks and I couldn't even the first time 524 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: he texted me personally, And I love this. This is weird, Like, 525 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, Karmak never just texts me. Yeah, And so 526 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't come, and then I love, Actually, I really 527 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: love this part of the story where you're like, I 528 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: just don't. I'm on tour, I can't. Yeah, I was 529 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: like not going to be there in town. And then 530 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: I got back in town and I don't know how 531 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: he reconnected or I texted him or whatever, but then 532 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: he invited me again to It was Memorial Day and 533 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: he invited me. His best friend was there with his 534 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: girlfriend and it was just Chris and me, and then 535 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: later that night he made a move and from then. 536 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: On were you guys together. Did you ever do like 537 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: the make up breakup situation a lot of people will 538 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: do before. 539 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: They get married. Yeah, No, we never had an official 540 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: break We went through a little rough patch. We always 541 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: worked through it, and I. 542 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: Think it's all working through it obviously that makes for 543 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: a successful relationship. 544 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: Yes, oh, one hundred. Yeah. I mean it's a little 545 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: different once you have kids and you're married and you 546 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: have a rough patch, you're like, Okay, well I don't 547 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: think anyone's going anywhere because we had a little fight. 548 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're just dating, it's a little scarier. 549 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: It is scarier. 550 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'd like to go through that and to 551 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: stick with it together, I think says a lot. 552 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, even back then he was committed to trying. 553 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, I think we even talked to a therapist 554 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: of your time. 555 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: You're talking about this because we talk a lot of 556 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: times about therapy and it's so nice and relatable to hear, like, hey, 557 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: we got couple therapy even early on in dating to 558 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 2: work through some stuff. 559 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it was amazingly helpful. I mean even to 560 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: take a step back and look at myself and the 561 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: way I grew up and like the my tendencies that 562 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: I didn't realize I had. You know, it's it's so helpful. 563 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: So I wish we should do more of it. I 564 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: think everyone should do it. 565 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean, Matt was on here and we were talking 566 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: about couple Star because we haven't done it, and we're 567 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: joking about how we we probably do need it because 568 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: everyone should. 569 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Have it've done it? Ever? No? Oh really no, but 570 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: we do. 571 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: We've said this on the podcast. We use it as 572 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: a threat sometimes like, oh, really, guess what steps a 573 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: couple therapy? 574 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: Oh, And it's like every time it is a threat 575 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: because really, every time we fight, I'm like, we need 576 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: to call the therapist. Yeah, get Barbara on the phone 577 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: for emergency zoom exactly. 578 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: So we have a lot of people. It's summertime. People 579 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: are planning weddings. I just got married. I've seen the pictures. 580 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: Beautiful wedding. 581 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 582 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: What is one piece of advice you would give two 583 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: brides for the day, Because I what I have said before, 584 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: My answer has always been that I limited the time. 585 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: It took to take pictures. I gave like a hard out. 586 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: Is there something that you if you could go back 587 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: and change that you would change? Well, I mean this 588 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: is sort of the opposite answer is that I we 589 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: did one of those like all inclusive wedding places. Okay, 590 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean I cannot recommend that enough. Well, I love 591 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: it because tell me why they do it all for you? 592 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: It is such a stress free day. You just get 593 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: to show up and be the star of your show. 594 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean you do they do like the flowers and everything. Yes, 595 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: they do the flowers, They do the food, the catering, 596 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: the decorations on the table, they do the photo. Well, no, 597 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: you get your own photographer. But then they coordinate with them. 598 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: They sort of have vendors that they use. Yes, and 599 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: so you you have to pick a few, but for 600 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: the most part, they have the catering down, they have 601 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: the the florists, all the decorations, the lighting, the I 602 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: mean just almost everything they think of for you, the transport, 603 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: the Did you feel relaxed on the day that knowing 604 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: it was all taken care of? I feel like I did. 605 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: I did. That's amazing, it was really nice. Yeah. I 606 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: cannot recommend something like that enough. But yeah, I also 607 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: wish we had made more time for family, because I mean, 608 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: I had cousins and relatives and people who like have 609 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: passed away since our wedding that you know, they traveled 610 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: and you get to see them for ten minutes and 611 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: then you can talk to other people. Have so many 612 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: peopeople there, and I don't know, I don't know what 613 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: the solution is for that, but I wish there had 614 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: been a way to really, you know, have quality time 615 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: with all of your guests. 616 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: But it's so hard because did you feel like you 617 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: had quality time with Chris? Because Matt and I literally 618 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: were talking about this with a couple of the other day. 619 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: They're about to get married, and we felt like we 620 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: didn't see each other much. Yeah, in the wedding I 621 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: mean we were trying to sort of host, right, we 622 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: also had and so she was two, and so we 623 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: were like Matt had to write yes too, and so 624 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you had to do this, but 625 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: we'd like. 626 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: We had to go, one of us had to go 627 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: put her down to bet. Oh wow. Yeah, well we 628 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: had my we had both of our parents sets of 629 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: parents there who were designated, and we also had we 630 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: had like a babysitter come and take care of all 631 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: the young kids, so they were all together. So wait, 632 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Yeah, that's a good if you 633 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: have kids. Yeah, get coming to the wedding. Gets to 634 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: hire someone, hire someone absolutely. Oh you see the baby. Yes, yeah, 635 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: we had little kids area like tucked away and they 636 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: all went and the kids table and they had their 637 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: like chicken fingers and their coloring books. 638 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: And wait, this is an amazing I have never a 639 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: thought of this or heard of this. 640 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see. 641 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: I would take it a step further and just make 642 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: like a jail, did I mean, like where they just 643 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: literally can't come out, Like do you just throw a 644 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: chicken finger in and. 645 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: Then you walk away, lock them up and then when 646 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: you're done, Mommy's got to Espresso Martina during the baby finger. 647 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: This is amazing. 648 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: I love Okay, that's amazing. Okay, So you guys got 649 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: married in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and then that was the 650 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: same year if he got graced onto. 651 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: Me, yes, yeah, I don't know. If you use that, 652 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: he would come back like every weekend. Yes, I do 653 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: remember a lot of caramel back and forth. 654 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: And then how did you feel about having to move 655 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: a young family to Los Angeles? 656 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: Sounds tough. That was tough moving, you know, especially going 657 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: from a place where the cost of living is lower, 658 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: and you had community complain about that a lot. 659 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: No, I know community and community because we have a 660 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: lot of people writing and talking about how with this 661 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: All the time you have people saying, I just moved 662 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: to a new town. 663 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea how to make friends, Like it's 664 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: very hard. That's so hard. Yeah, I mean I still 665 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: have made very, very few friends. But partially, I mean 666 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm so busy that I know, I feel bad I 667 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: can't commit to when when you know people do reach 668 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: out to try to make a relationship, I'm limited in 669 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: the time I have. I think that's very something, very 670 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: a lot. 671 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: It is also I feel like there's a lot of 672 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: times where truthfully, I want to like when Matt comes home, 673 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: I want to spend time with him, right, instead of 674 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: just bounce all the time. Hm. 675 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: And so it's really careful. 676 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: It's a really hard balance of like putting in an 677 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: effort with your friends, your family, your kids, or you know, 678 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: all of it. 679 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's hard. Yeah. Yeah. And and to your point, 680 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, before I had kids, when I was in 681 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: my early twenties and whatever, and I was having fun 682 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: in Nashville making all my friends. It's like they're all 683 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: still there in Nashville, yeah, or my old friends from 684 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: high school or New York or East Coast, and so yeah, 685 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: when once you move from a place you've spent you know, 686 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: your young adulthood. Yeah, and you moved to a completely 687 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: different city, people sort of already are in their grooves too. 688 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: They have their friends, they have their families, and you know, 689 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: I do find that like when Kai started kindergarten, we 690 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: were in the Lacannyata area, and that's that's a great 691 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: time to make a lot of. 692 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: That's how friends, right, that's how I felt like I 693 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: met mommy friends. I feel like once Hayden Star School. 694 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: I was so confused. 695 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: A lot of my friends did not have kids yet, 696 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: and so I was so confused, like. 697 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Where do I find moms? It's hard in a big 698 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: city like Los Angeles. It's just not like, I mean, 699 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: you grew up in a different country, but I grew 700 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: up in a small town in upstate New York, and 701 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: it was just hardly anyone left, hardly anyone came. It 702 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: was the same people our whole lives. And I mean, 703 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: in a way that's kind of nice. 704 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you would ever want your family 705 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: to move back to where you grew up if you 706 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: could move anywhere with them, like sometimes would you would 707 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: you go to Nashville or would you take them back 708 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: home to New York. 709 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of advantages to being in 710 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: this more metropolitan area Los Angeles, Nashville that I totally 711 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: missed out on. And even though I loved my childhood, 712 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I loved my you know, teenage years, I do I 713 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: wish I had been a little more exposed to you know, 714 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: the culture and and just everything of that. I sort 715 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: of had a rude awakening when I got to college. Yeah, 716 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, No, I think I think Nashville or I mean, 717 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm really happy where we are now, Like outside of Pasadena, 718 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: It's it's so sweet there. It's very neighborhoodie. But you 719 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: know we're it could be downtown LA in thirty minutes. Yeah, 720 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: it's true. No, no, no. 721 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: I I do think it's advantages to living in Los Angeles. 722 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: I do think as a new mommy having moved to 723 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: the area, it's it's a tough it is a tough city, 724 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: and it's that's a really relatable thing I think for 725 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of people. Yeah, okay, let's 726 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 2: get into. 727 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: Okay, your wedding. 728 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: I do have a question about your wedding because Link 729 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: and Joe just got married on Grace Now. Oh yes, 730 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 2: and he's song he's they had him sing his wedding vows. 731 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 732 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: If Chris had reached for his guitar and started saying 733 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: to you. 734 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: His vows, would you have been like, are you kidding me? 735 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: The guitar dome? Okay, have three otions? Are you would 736 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: like this is a fine line, this is about you 737 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: or me? Would you have been like, you know what, let's. 738 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 2: Have a battle and pick up your violin and be 739 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: like it's on. Or would you just like melted and 740 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: loved it because I feel like this has been a 741 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: little polarizing. Some fans have been like this is too 742 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: much or she yeah, and now the. 743 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: Fans are like, of course they love it. I when 744 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: when he told me, I mean, obviously I knew like 745 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: he was working on the song NonStop when he was 746 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: helping write it, so I knew it was this was happening. 747 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: And I was kind of like, oh, is Camilla gonna 748 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: like that? I mean to stare at you while young? 749 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: Was she gonna hate this girl? After three hours? We 750 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: just used air plugs. Yeah, I just I put my 751 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: own pods in. I listened to a little you know 752 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: lady God. Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you. I kidding, Chris. 753 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: I loved it. I was in it every time. I know, 754 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: but I have to say when I watched it, I 755 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: was crying too. You got it. You did such an 756 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: amazing job not making it feel ick. I thought he 757 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: sold it really well. He did. He did, and that's 758 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: that's hard to sell you. 759 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: No, it's it's not easy. It's a fine line. It 760 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: could have been super cringey. I was felt very heartful, 761 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 2: but I know it was would you for. 762 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: Your own wedding, would you for just a song? Free? Yeah? 763 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: I mean I think so. Look if he had done it, 764 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: I think it would be something I'd look back and say, 765 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: what a romantic gesture like it would be fairytale level story. 766 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: But in the moment, I mean, I was picturing myself 767 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: and picturing you being me, like, what is Camila gonna 768 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: think this guy for real? 769 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: Or I'm not sure the wedding would have happened if 770 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: Chris's song the lyrics, we don't. I don't know if 771 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: Aaron would have you know, been on the horse riding away. 772 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 1: But no, I you know, for our engagement, though he did, 773 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: he didn't play, but he hired. This is very romantic 774 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: of him for when he asked, guy, ton't know this story? Ok, guy, 775 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: this is a good story. He rented out the rooftop 776 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: of this hotel in New York that that I loved. 777 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: It's like no longer in existence. It was called the 778 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: Nomad Hotel. Okay, thought we were going to visit a 779 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: friend and he hits the up button and that's where 780 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: I knew something's happening here. 781 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: And did you think engagement or did your mind kind 782 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: of god feeling had a feeling my nails done? 783 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: Yes, who was on tour with me to convince me 784 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: to get my nails done? Yeah, so smart, good job. 785 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: He did really good and he had her come even 786 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: to take pictures. And so then we get to the top, 787 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: the elevator opens and he hired a jazz quartet to 788 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: play music for us, which was really cool because it 789 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: was songs that we had been playing together violin and guitar. 790 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: So it was like all very thoughtful, and he had 791 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: champagne and then yeah, he got down on his knee 792 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: and he had the ring and I was really impressed. 793 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: Beyond this is like this is like Sleepless in Seattle, 794 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: like movie movie impressed. It was it was my one 795 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: romantic gesture that because he didn't sing his vows so 796 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: he didn't sing his vowel. 797 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 2: So you know what, Honestly, I'm gonna tell you something, 798 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: I kind of would have liked that. 799 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: You liked that champagne. 800 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: I can't, I know, I know, listend to be in 801 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: the hospital. 802 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: It's not the same jazz Corte to the good job 803 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: Carmat and I mean he was he wanted to work 804 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: fast because we were I was in New York on 805 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: a tour, so we weren't there very long. It wasn't 806 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: didn't really I am so impressed. Okay, so this is no, 807 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: this is amazing. 808 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: So now you guys, you have two kids, and what 809 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: I feel like people have just fallen in love with 810 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: you for is the social media. 811 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: So we have to talk about it. First of all, 812 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: I want. 813 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: To know because recently your social media has been you 814 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 2: playing a lot. 815 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: Of pranks on Chris. 816 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: I want to know where you get these. I'm like, 817 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 2: where are the ideas from? 818 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: I'm in my pranking era? Is it just honestly you 819 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: thinking crazy things up? Yeah? 820 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: I mean like like you went to the beach and 821 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 2: you pretend to eat sand and it was just like, 822 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: how did you even think about the cookies? 823 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to copy other people prank their husbands. 824 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to copy people. Like I've always been 825 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: Christ and I both we've always been like on social media, 826 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: we're doing this. We want to be original content creators. Yeah, 827 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: and like we don't want to just do the same 828 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: you know whatever. Yeah, so yeah, I'm always trying to 829 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: be original. And you know I had done I think 830 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: I had done like a more simple version where I 831 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: had switched a wine bottle out with grape juice and 832 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: people had loved that. Right, Yeah, this is why you 833 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: were like early morning drinking. 834 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 3: Yes, early morning drinking, and you're like, oh god, he 835 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 3: was okay, So we have I have logistical questions when 836 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 3: I watched this is your phone set up on the 837 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: counter recording him? 838 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: Is that how you're catching his reaction? Because sometimes you 839 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: have more than one jingle? So we started out. It 840 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: was a lot easier when we first started because Chris 841 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: didn't know. I was just trying to get his reaction 842 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: on things so I could set up the phone and 843 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: and he honestly has no idea. That's what You're well 844 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: for the most part, like he might figure out something's up, 845 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: especially now because I'm always ranking him. Yeah, doesn't know. 846 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, how does he not know that she's pranking you? 847 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: But the thing is he might know that something is up. 848 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: He might even spot in one of the hidden cameras, 849 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: but he doesn't know what I'm doing. Like people, I 850 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: tell people in the beginning of the video what I'm doing, 851 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: so everyone knows and they think, oh, this is obvious. 852 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: How does he not know? 853 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 3: But he doesn't because I don't tell him at the 854 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: beginning of the pace, so he might spy. 855 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 2: The cameras and realize something's going to be a miss 856 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 2: at some point, but might not know. 857 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: So when he comes out and you like bought new 858 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: shoes or like the shorts, he was he by the 859 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: end of that prank, he definitely thought like, she's got 860 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: to be pranking me. But I don't know what this 861 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: is about, Like way until listeners, I haven't seen this, 862 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: like a couple of your tops. Yeah okay, well okay, 863 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: so we said switching out the wine for grape juice. 864 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, you downing a bottle of grape sing in 865 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: the morning, and he thought. 866 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: It was wine. Then there was the beach. I picked 867 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: up a bucket of sand, which I had, you know, 868 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: hidden my own prop bucket of sand. I switched them 869 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: out and I pretended that I was doing like I 870 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: talked to my camera, yeah, like you can eat the sand. 871 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: It's actually safe and healthy. And I start just you know, 872 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: downing the sand. 873 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 2: It looks so real, even though I knew it wasn't real. 874 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 2: I was grossed out. 875 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really great, and it really made me choke, 876 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: Like I was eating a bunch of sand. So it 877 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: was it was a very realistic moment. At least it 878 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: tasted good. 879 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 2: But you also, okay, the peaches. Can you talk to 880 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: them about the peaches and the eggs? 881 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: Oh and the eggs. Oh my mom loves that one. Yeah, 882 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: it's so good. You know what I do sometimes like 883 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: I'll come up with how can I switch out you know, 884 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: a raw egg? And I will google actually follow this 885 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: guy on YouTube and it's Scott prop and Roll and 886 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: he is a prop master in Los Angeles and you 887 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: might know him. And he shows everyone like secrets behind 888 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: the cameras of how they make props. So I got 889 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: the egg idea from him. The sand idea, I just 890 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: figured it out and I googled on Reddit somebody had 891 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: said make fake sand this way. But so she took 892 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: can she took a bunch of eggs and you switch 893 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: the yolk with peaches. My god, this was an elaborate one. 894 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: I did buy this special device that cracks an egg 895 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: like as perfectly as you can crack it, because I 896 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: took I took the shells of an egg. I know 897 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: it's insane. Too much time, everyone have too much time. No, 898 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: you don't even have time. You don't have. 899 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 2: This is what's so crazy to you don't have any time. 900 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 2: I know how busy you are, so the setup, I'm like, 901 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 2: this is incredible that you're able. 902 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: To do this. It's it's definitely And then Chris I 903 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: have to do when he's doing yard work or something, 904 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: so he's coming in the house and don't like run 905 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: in my bathroom. No. So I cracked the egg. I 906 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: dumped the yolks out, and then I boiled the eggs 907 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: because I wanted them to be clean because I'm going 908 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: to actually eat. Yes, I had these oiled shells that 909 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: I was trying to hold together, and I was like, 910 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: if he looks closely, he's gonna see. But what I 911 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: did is I made a fake raw egg. This was 912 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: a trick from a prop master. You can use peaches 913 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: and thickened water, so I bought there's actually something powder 914 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: you can buy on Amazon that thickens a liquid so 915 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: you can thicken the water. And then I put the peaches. 916 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, I cut them in round circles. It really 917 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: looks like an egg. Put it in the shell. I 918 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: was going to try to glue it. That wasn't working out, 919 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: so put I'm back in the carton, and then I 920 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: pulled him out and I was like, all right, Chris, 921 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: you know I'm going to make some answer everybody. And 922 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: so he really was not suspecting that I put all 923 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: that work into a break that same Yeah, are you 924 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: feeling the pressure to just now? Yeah? I know your question. Yes, yes, 925 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: they have to get better and better. And I'm like, Chris, 926 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to happen. 927 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you should be like hosting. I feel 928 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: like you should be hosting like an America's you know, 929 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: funniest I feel like you should be hosting a show. 930 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: It feels like a pink show, like I think, put 931 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 2: this out there for Hollywood, for Aaron, because there's no 932 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 2: more perfect a person to be doing a show like that. 933 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's put it out Sons, thank you, Hey everyone. 934 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna call it the end of the episode, but 935 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: stay tuned for part two because we are not done chatting.