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Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody when we started off, We

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Speaker 1: asked him who was the first person like when you

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Speaker 1: got to the league to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: Is probably Ai for show, certainly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember my rookie year coach Well Marbury was guarding him.

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Speaker 2: So Marbury started off getting cooked.

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Speaker 4: Coach was like Nate.

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Speaker 2: Going there and gart Iverson because like, bro, Larry Brown,

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Speaker 2: Larry Brown, Larry Brown. Yeah, he used to call me

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Speaker 2: the little shit, you know, little shit getting there, go

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Speaker 2: guard Iverson. He had twenty four already in the quarter,

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Speaker 2: so twenty four points in a quarter. I had to

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Speaker 2: go in the guard Irison. I'm like all right, you know,

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Speaker 2: as a kid, I'm like yeah first, you know first,

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Speaker 2: and being an NBA rookie, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool, I've studying them, just been

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Speaker 2: my favorite player forever. So I was like, all right, bro,

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Speaker 2: we're not going for no no Jordan crossovers. Sit, He'm

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Speaker 2: going for no call he make it shot over the top,

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Speaker 2: all right, cool, whatever. But he was making them shots

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Speaker 2: over the top of the whole time. So I just

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Speaker 2: tried to contest and he make it the defense betterro

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Speaker 2: is one of them type moments. But he ended up

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Speaker 2: having like what forty nine to forty seven that game,

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Speaker 2: and then I had the game winning shots, so I

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Speaker 2: kind of got the last laugh over already to you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That kind of like solidified me

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Speaker 2: being in the league.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Then afterwards asking for a sleeve, you know, he gave

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Speaker 2: it to me. I got it at the crib. So

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Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: He won the battle, you won the ward.

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Speaker 2: It was just one of those, but it was like

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Speaker 2: it was fun to watch. It was like actually like

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Speaker 2: being in the game watching like your favorite player. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I dreamed about this, So.

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Speaker 6: We talked about it the whole. Yeah, big Bro Bro

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Speaker 6: like this a I though, Big Bro, I'm like, go

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Speaker 6: at him to off.

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Speaker 2: Was like, yo, I go back y'all got back door,

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Speaker 2: got a little dunk, you know. But I was just

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Speaker 2: I just wanted, you know, I wanted him to respect

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Speaker 2: me as a player, you know what I'm saying. Because

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Speaker 2: I loved his game. I loved him as a you

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Speaker 2: know individual, who he was and how he paid the

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Speaker 2: way for me.

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Speaker 4: So so big Eddie shot man shot Bro like we

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Speaker 4: had he was in l Ae. What what and I

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Speaker 4: remember he did some move BRO like I was just

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Speaker 4: in a carcident.

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Speaker 6: I was just I was just alone for the ride.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 6: I was just alone for the ride.

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Speaker 4: Bro. It was it was at the UC, BRO, and.

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Speaker 6: My parents came. Let us preface this day. Yeah, like

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Speaker 6: you feel me to say accident.

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Speaker 4: I was an accident, Bro. And that was that was

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Speaker 4: the biggest human I ever seen ever. Bro Ever Bro.

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Speaker 4: And this when he was moving he was in and

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Speaker 4: his ship, so Bro, he hit me with one move, Bro,

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Speaker 4: like hit me all on my face and ship. And

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Speaker 4: after that he was like, man, I bady Okay, I'm

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Speaker 4: like damn. That was cool. He was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: met your parents before the game. It's in the game.

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Speaker 4: He told me, like, I met your parents before the game,

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Speaker 4: and I like you, I used to watch your show

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Speaker 4: in high school. I'm gonna chill. And after that it

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Speaker 4: was cool. He was like, but if Brad Miller come

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Speaker 4: out here, I'm gonna I'm gonna kick his ass. He

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Speaker 4: had he it was like he was probably like twenty

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Speaker 4: five probably you know what I'm saying. He had like

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Speaker 4: twenty five. But I didn't play the whole game. I

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Speaker 4: was a rookie. They wasn't playing me like that.

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Speaker 6: Yo, knuckleheads coming to you live on location. Man, we're

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Speaker 6: in Chicago specialist dish when we got family in the building,

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Speaker 6: Eddie Edie for having me bro City Nate Robans having

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Speaker 6: throwing the bill rock and search it is. We all

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Speaker 6: were about to do this like we always do. Check

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Speaker 6: us out. It's your boys too Rich and d mails

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Speaker 6: challenge on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Season two and how we're thinking of what we do

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Speaker 4: like it just like, how did y'all come up with that?

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Speaker 4: Is this thing?

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Speaker 6: Go little script? We kind of just get into it.

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Speaker 6: We come from an authentic old geek standpoint.

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Speaker 3: You were winning with just one star player.

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Speaker 6: This is a story that people don't know this.

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Speaker 7: Dude, have my shoes on right, he just talking hot mess.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were just young and wanted to prove

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Speaker 4: ourselves and you were in the way. This is nice.

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Speaker 4: Man bought me some honey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Grace's a great field, greatfield, greatfield, greatfield, greatfield, greatfield.

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Speaker 1: Big Man was like when you came in, he was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I got most of them points from him, Like you

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Speaker 4: He you know what Honestly, it didn't really happen to

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Speaker 4: Like I was in New York. I remember playing y'all

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Speaker 4: while he was on a tear had a soft as

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Speaker 4: he was on a tear bro and I had played

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Speaker 4: him earlier before that and I dunked on him something

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Speaker 4: feeling myself. Yeah, were about to go play him and

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Speaker 4: it ain't ship. I'm about to bust his ass again.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what he's doing to these other dudes. Man,

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Speaker 4: he had a triple double against me. Bro. Swear to god, Bro,

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Speaker 4: triple double. Bro couldn't stop nothing. He was doing like

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Speaker 4: nothing he had.

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Speaker 6: Had every game.

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Speaker 4: That was That was third year. That was crazy. But

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Speaker 4: y'all gave you work. Y'all gave me serious work.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like, what made you choose the high school that you

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Speaker 1: went to? Like Chicago has so many different teams. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: for me, man, I wanted to go to Whitney Young

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Speaker 1: so bad.

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Speaker 4: Like my parents. I wanted to go play with you

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Speaker 4: now because that's all saw you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He was who everybody looked up to. I wanted to

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Speaker 4: go play with you and my mom and was like, nah,

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Speaker 4: you're going to go to.

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Speaker 5: The school to send your district came with us and

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Speaker 5: he was, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, I was sick. I was sick, and I never forget.

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Speaker 4: I never forget. Bro.

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Speaker 6: It was probably like your second one. Y'all won, Bro.

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Speaker 4: Ron Howard was over there, my boyfriend and y'all had

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Speaker 4: won a crazy game and Ron Howard man because Ron

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Speaker 4: was on my AU team. She walked past me in

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Speaker 4: the hallway after y'all wont like you should have been

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Speaker 2: Though. Yeah for me, man, I mean it was easy.

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Speaker 2: I was in the hood Seattle and Jamal Carford he

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Speaker 2: doing and one mixtape. I said, I'm going to school.

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Speaker 2: You know, my whole family went to school Garfield, where

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Speaker 2: didn't want to go, you know, where everybody else is going.

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Speaker 2: And I seen, you know, j C was over there,

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Speaker 2: championship at Renter Beach ended up being one of the best,

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Speaker 2: you know, high schools in the country.

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Speaker 6: Was they good at football too.

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Speaker 2: Now, we weren't that good at football, but you know

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Speaker 2: good at football. Coach, we were solid. You know, we

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Speaker 2: just didn't have you know, we didn't have no real coaches.

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Speaker 2: Our coaches were like friends of the family, like volunteers type,

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Speaker 2: we just didn't have no discipline and god to change

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Speaker 2: was like shit. My senior year, what a coach called, Nah, man,

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Speaker 2: give me the ball, Give me the ball. Just just

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Speaker 2: I told him, don't grab, don't block nobody in the back.

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Speaker 2: Just play defense like you're playing basketball, and I'll take

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Speaker 2: care of the rest, you know, So I'll try to Washington.

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Speaker 1: Who else did you have like that you was really

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Speaker 2: My junior year in high school, my dad moved me

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Speaker 2: Sean Lynch at Oakland Tech play football, and but my

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Speaker 2: I ended up going to what was called James Logan

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Speaker 2: a nice schools like five five a five thousand kids,

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Speaker 2: big school. Like I went to school with my cousin Shari.

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Speaker 2: It was lit.

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Speaker 4: I got.

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Speaker 2: I got to the school, played football. I ended up

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Speaker 2: scoring like twenty two touchdowns in like five games, and

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Speaker 2: they were like who are you. I'm like Skar from Seattle,

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Speaker 2: just you know, trying to get it in and just

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Speaker 2: for my senior year in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: What the missed the basketball man? You that men, every

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Speaker 4: other noise like that mean everything in the history of

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Speaker 4: did for sure? For sure, Bro, because you gotta remember Bro.

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Speaker 4: Like like with nobody. At first, I wasn't thinking NBA,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I always always was

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Speaker 4: around players who it was always a group of players

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Speaker 4: that was way better than you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: even being around y'all, Like I thought I was at

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Speaker 4: y'all level. I remember one time I can't. I don't

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Speaker 4: even know if you remember. I came and play the game,

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Speaker 4: got y'all come.

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Speaker 6: On many like every player in the game. But like

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Speaker 6: before something that he was mad because like he's like

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Speaker 6: his squad. He like this team, like I'm with my friends.

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Speaker 6: I'm playing like Larry. But you know, but like, look,

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Speaker 6: this is how we do. All the dudes is better

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Speaker 6: than they class. You're gonna play up. You're gonna play up.

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Speaker 6: He ain't want to do it. So then when he

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Speaker 6: got something and he got banged though, he was like,

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Speaker 6: see what I'm saying, give me out the game, everybody

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Speaker 6: with the whole gym back back to I got dunked

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Speaker 6: on like back and back boom boom.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, man, say give you out the game.

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Speaker 4: He was like getting me out of here. Bro.

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Speaker 6: The first time I seen you was the first time

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Speaker 1: Like Larry Buller came down there to East Saint Louis

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Speaker 1: That was the first time he ever being around quting

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Speaker 4: So it's like to win mister basketball.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was like validation to me that I'm

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Speaker 6: Like I should have. Could you was there? Hung? I

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Speaker 6: But the codest part of that you should have won.

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Speaker 6: It was politics in the game. So the way of

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Speaker 6: this is the this is the order that the Mister

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Speaker 4: Frank Williams won it.

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Speaker 6: It's no disrespect to him, but but like we was,

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Speaker 4: This is a joke. This that and the third.

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Speaker 6: I felt I should have won championships.

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Speaker 4: They have that, so you know I lost in the

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Speaker 4: he didn't play at all. So you let play off

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Speaker 6: She is deep though, man who because check it out.

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Speaker 6: This is what happens.

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Speaker 4: This will happened right one of our you want to

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Speaker 6: So my coach we begged that was your player's fault.

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Speaker 6: If that would have you know, coach, coach, man, please

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Speaker 6: Everything would have Man, that man would have exiled me

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what he did. Bro.

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Speaker 2: That's what you do and his man woun I would

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Speaker 1: Mind, you don't like to let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Because when I was in high school, I played up.

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Speaker 2: Y'all got a chance. That's why y'all got better. I mean,

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Speaker 8: That it was all killers. They was all little Chicago show.

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Speaker 2: We watched the Chicago Show all the way in Seattle, Man,

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Speaker 6: Guys, I'm gonna tell you the first time that I

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Speaker 6: if it was a Tim Dunkle aliy you young when

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Speaker 2: When I got nick, Yes, when I got to the league,

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Speaker 6: We were sitting here in the knick this after week

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Speaker 2: So in high school, high school, like when we saw

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was a part of the coach

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Speaker 1: The story like I went on my uh my visit

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Speaker 4: He was like, uh, you think if I laid up

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Speaker 4: So he's like all right.

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Speaker 2: He stepped back.

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Speaker 4: He was like you read and I'm like yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Dumper. I had it.

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Speaker 4: What he just missed it?

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Speaker 6: Save my life.

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Speaker 4: I was so happy.

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Speaker 3: I was like the story he was gonna tell forever.

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Speaker 3: The reason I'm telling it right now because Rose he

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Speaker 4: What doing that? Bro?

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Speaker 2: Because he can shoot, he can make this shot, and

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Speaker 6: But he did that to me. It was funny at

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Speaker 1: Made me consider Saint Louis because, like I was a

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Speaker 1: Larry Hughes went over there and he took care of

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Speaker 6: Charlie left and he retired.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can get a I can get

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed my visit where I considered Saint Louis, but

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Speaker 1: he was a real good guy.

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Speaker 6: He wanted the good guys. So it was just Washington.

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Speaker 6: It was anybody else that was like close to.

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Speaker 2: Nah, I think I was born to be a Husky.

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Speaker 6: My dad went there.

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Speaker 2: My dad was the first man everyday wanting the orange ball,

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Speaker 2: I committed to USC. I was gonna go there, and

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Speaker 2: He's younger. Yeah, he Carol was there. It recruited me

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Speaker 2: to come play football, and he didn't want me to

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Speaker 4: You wanted to play both sports.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to both at least one year. At least

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Speaker 2: if I like, you know, like getting coach Rick new Highway,

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Speaker 2: you doubles, Like yo, you can come here and play

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Speaker 2: everything like baseball, football, track, every whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: I'm with it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, cool, I'm here, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then Pops went there and then being a hometown,

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Speaker 2: he wrote, I was like, it just made sense straight up.

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Speaker 4: You went straight out of high school. You called a

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Speaker 4: you know, it's like a time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We like we like it's the NBA, it's the All Store.

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Speaker 1: We like this secret society over here that it's not.

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Speaker 6: Got something in common too, because like both y'all wanted

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Speaker 4: Got something both in common.

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Speaker 1: Both of us want mister basketball and somebody didn't Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Iball and mister football and track. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, like McDonald's, Yeah, that's tough, that's running up.

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Speaker 2: But what schools?

439
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Speaker 6: What you thinking about going to?

440
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 4: Was you all what you like? Man, I'm going straight

441
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 4: out high school. Just forget it.

442
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 1: I ain't really tripping off the schools or you kind

443
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 1: of considered I think going to school junior year. I

444
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 1: was thinking, like I wanted to go to college like

445
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: my whole life growing up. I wanted to go to

446
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati though, just because I love the Jordan uniforms and stuff.

447
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,680
Speaker 6: Like the uniform Who was that Cincinnati that you rock with?

448
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 4: Though? Melvin Levit.

449
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,200
Speaker 2: And Logan the point guard.

450
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 4: I want you bad. My dad was like, no, it's

451
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,239
Speaker 4: a bunch of thugs over there. I ain't going over there.

452
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 4: My pops was tripping. I'm like, man, come on that

453
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 4: I begged them. I don't even think I even got

454
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 4: to get it. Like take a visit from from Huggins man.

455
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 4: I was.

456
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 6: I was mad about that too.

457
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 4: But but then, like when I started seeing bj Armstrong

458
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 4: and all the scouts at the games, I was like, yes,

459
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 4: a rap, I ain't going to college college.

460
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 6: The college cir likee for me.

461
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: Like the college it was, you know they come in

462
00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: and with them college shirts on and you see that

463
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 1: college logo.

464
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 4: My whole junior year.

465
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, then I committed to Saint John's like right before

466
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: the basketball season. So the whole year I was seeing

467
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 1: them college shirts with them NBA logos coming up in there,

468
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh.

469
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 4: The folks, it's like, yeah, it's different. It's a little

470
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 4: bit of here like that.

471
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 6: I'm challenging.

472
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I go to school the next and and

473
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 4: they'd be like, yo, did you see Jay Crowd or

474
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,360
Speaker 4: did you see this person? That person? At that point,

475
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 4: it was just like, let me see what NBA teams

476
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 4: interested in me. I knew that by who they were seeing.

477
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 4: To take your visits, I took. I took one visit,

478
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 4: I think to Illinois. I think that was it, though

479
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 4: I ain't going nowhere else. Did you commit to anywhere?

480
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 4: Because I committed? I committed to the Paul Oh, okay.

481
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 6: Please share with the world the story the first time

482
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 6: you ever met us.

483
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: All right, everything like, even with the whole car situation,

484
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 2: the true story, all right, statue limitations.

485
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 4: It's cool, you got.

486
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 6: All right.

487
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: Back in my younger days a little while. But uh

488
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: so I heard that these guys were coming to Seattle

489
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: for Gary Payton's little charity game. He had all that

490
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: shut out GP had these guys come down. And when

491
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: I got the word they was coming, I told my

492
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: brother we got to get down there. You know, my

493
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 2: mom wasn't gonna let me drive a car, so me

494
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: and my brother stole a car. He stole for real,

495
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: Me and my brother stole a car, went stole a

496
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: car and drove down there, drove all the way down there,

497
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: go to the ky Arena, got snuck in, didn't have

498
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: no money, had no can, get no tickets, snuck in,

499
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 2: got in and no lie killing them. Guys were behind

500
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: the bench. And it's funny that they gave me their jerseys.

501
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: What they gave me their jersey.

502
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 6: I got hit.

503
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: I got I don't know if I still have it

504
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 2: the help, but I got de my jersey and Q

505
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: rich jersey.

506
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 4: Bro.

507
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: I was I was asking them, y'all, let me get

508
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: your jersey. I was like the kid in the back, y'all,

509
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 2: let me get you get your jersey.

510
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 6: Bro.

511
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: I was hounding them.

512
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 6: And this verifies the story though. Fast forward to the

513
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 6: way back. He gets we get like I said, he

514
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 6: gets drafted. He gets traded with me to the Knicks.

515
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 6: We go to Seattle. You didn't come with us. He

516
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 6: didn't come with us. But when we went to Seattle,

517
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 6: first of all, he was like, Bro, my mom and cooking.

518
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 6: It is that we get to Seattle, like one two

519
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 6: in the morning, Bro.

520
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: The whole block lit like a block party.

521
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 6: At three in the afternoon, fish fry, food, people everywhere, music,

522
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 6: We kicking at cards, everything. Go to the front room.

523
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: Get the picture.

524
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 6: And he got pictures and the jersey still hanging up

525
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 6: in the trophy case. He got pictures of us taking pictures.

526
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 6: I say, little story story.

527
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: So it was pretty cool because like the stories that

528
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: I had, like having like meetings, got before I even

529
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: made it, and like it just drove me like I

530
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: gotta make it to the lead. I gotta make it,

531
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: bro like because I want I want a kid to

532
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: be able to have that same kind of story, to

533
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: take a picture and they like, you know what I'm saying,

534
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: Like it was lit because you know, the same story

535
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: happened with Steve Francis. I was sixteen. I asked him to,

536
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: you know, take a picture. Was in d C and

537
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: a program game and I had like an old school

538
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: little wind up. I took a selfie with it, took

539
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: a picture with Steve Francis, and I kept it and

540
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: I got to the league and he got traded to

541
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: the next I was that, bro, I got.

542
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 6: Something for you.

543
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: And I went home And when I flew home on

544
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: a week ran flew home and got the did do

545
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: all my pictures, founded got a duplicate, gave Steve the

546
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: other Like I thank you for that, because that crazy

547
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: that drove.

548
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 4: Me get to the league.

549
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: Like, let me ask you this. You're from Chicago. You

550
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: grew up from Chicago your whole life.

551
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 6: That's like let's say that the right way here he

552
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 6: goes area. He's a Chicago Land kid, like Harvey is

553
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 6: not Chicago.

554
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: Though I'm not from Harvey, though I was born in

555
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: Harvey at the hospital was in Harvey. Your school you

556
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: grew up my school? My school was in South Island. Bro,

557
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: does that sound like Chicago? I lived in count City.

558
00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: That is, you've been down town Chicago. I ain't going

559
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: to downtown Chicago till I was probably junior in high school. Bro,

560
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: So I was playing like in Eminston and I give

561
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 4: him a hard time. He ain't from the nice like.

562
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 6: I'm out. But that's what was dope about.

563
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: When to mister basketball, I wanted over all the Chicago

564
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: But never mind, bro, all that what's up, brom?

565
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 6: What's up?

566
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: Brom?

567
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 6: All you guys, all the real West guys don't say

568
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 6: you guys know they know young you know that's appreciate it.

569
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 6: Appreciate it. You paved the way.

570
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: You're from Chicago, and I know, like like us like

571
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: you you w g N like Michael Jordan's right, the Bulls.

572
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: It's like everything you're from here and you get drafted

573
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: shoes to the Chicago Bulls.

574
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: How surreal was that I know. That was just like

575
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: you know what you I didn't want to go to

576
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: the Bulls. I was, man, Bro, I ain't a lot

577
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 4: to because Bro, I was pissed. Bro. Look, so this

578
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: is how it was. Right.

579
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 6: MJ had the first pick.

580
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: I go to his work. I thought I had a

581
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: good workout. He said, all right, we're gonna probably pick you.

582
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: I said, all right, cool. So I'm like cool, I'm

583
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: gonna go play with MJ. Then they end up picking Kwame.

584
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 6: Right.

585
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: I find out before the draft we at the table

586
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 4: R and tell them tell him like, yo, they gonna

587
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: go with Kammee Brown, he said. So I was like, man,

588
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: I don't care if I can't go there. I want

589
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: to go to Clippers. Man. Clippers had the number two pick. Yeah,

590
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: I said, man, that's only I was pissed they picked Tyson. Bro.

591
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: My agent's like, yeah, they're gonna pick Tyson. He said,

592
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: So the third pick, the Grizz is gonna get either

593
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 4: Powe or you do you want to go to go there?

594
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: I'm like nah, Bro, he was like, you can go there,

595
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: you can go to Chicago. I was like, I go

596
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: to Chicago. Man. I was pissed, Bro, because I was like, man,

597
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: this whole time in high school. They really built me

598
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: and Tyson up to almost hate each other, right, I

599
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: hated I hated Tyson because I never saw him. Yeah,

600
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: everybody he was always number one or I was number one.

601
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: It was always so I'm like, man, fuck this dude,

602
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: man like, but I just a guy like. I hated him, bro,

603
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: And then we played him. I was sick, man, and

604
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: my coach didn't start me because I misspracticed like he

605
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: was one of them coaches, so he ain't started me

606
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 4: and I was coming off the flu. So his team won,

607
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: but we both had like fourteen points. It was like

608
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 4: a wash, you know what I'm saying. He had a

609
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: crazy dunk where he jumped over my man, pee Wee.

610
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean pee Wee was smaller Thannate. Bro,

611
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: He's supposed to do that, you know what I'm saying.

612
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 4: And Tyson my man now.

613
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, at that time, because y'all

614
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: was one and two and to see y'all get drafted

615
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: to the same.

616
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: It was crazy, Bro.

617
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 6: It was crazy.

618
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: Y'all was just yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was crazy

619
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: how it happened because Chicago drafted me and then we

620
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 4: in the back. I see Tyson back there. I didn't

621
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: even speak to him, Bro, he had his clip his

622
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 4: hat on. My agent came to me and said, they

623
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: about to trade Tyson and get him to Chicago with you. Bro,

624
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: they gonna trade Elton Brand.

625
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 6: I'm like what.

626
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: Instantly I look over and I see him taking his

627
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 4: hat off in front. I'm like, we gotta go. Yeah,

628
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: we gotta go take pictures with each other and stuff.

629
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: But that was my guy.

630
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: Bro. Tyson ends up being like one of my best friends.

631
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: Like really cool experience, and I immediately started loving the

632
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: fact that I was in Chicago. But the whole time,

633
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: all I was thinking was I want to go play

634
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: with Jordan just to be the number one picking or

635
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: I wanted to go play with y'all. Like I was like,

636
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: this got'd be the dream come true. I'm like, man,

637
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: God set it up for me to go playing in

638
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: La Bro. And I had a good workout too. I

639
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: only worked out for like four teams, Bro, So I

640
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: was like, man, I got a good chance of going

641
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: and they pulled the rug on me and did the

642
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: Elton Brand move. When you got ready to go to

643
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: the league, what made you choose basketball?

644
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: Over football because everybody said I couldn't do it, So

645
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: that was that was the sport that then people didn't believe.

646
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: I didn't believe I did play basketball. So I was like,

647
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: let me show them.

648
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, what about the mecca of all meccas going to

649
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 6: the Knicks.

650
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: Like I was a dream come true? Honestly, Like I

651
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: meant everything honestly, man. I mean for me, I was

652
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: a movie guy. So all the great movies that I

653
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: watched is you know, Harlem Nights, New Jesse City. It

654
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: was New York City, you know what I'm saying. So

655
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, like this was set up perfect,

656
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't wait. Honestly, I couldn't wait to

657
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: get to the Rutger. I was the NBA cool, but

658
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, cool, I get the rocket part,

659
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: Rocker Park.

660
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, they the great. Me and Jamal went to the

661
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 6: Rugging too.

662
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: And back when I was like when I was getting

663
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: ready to come out of high school, I had to

664
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: meet with agents, and uh, the agents that I chose

665
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: was just Jeff Wextland. When they came in, it was

666
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: him and David Funk and you know, they talking, they stuff,

667
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: and me and my mom sitting there listening and I'm

668
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: badly paying attention. I'm like, man, I got stuff to do.

669
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: I got a girl to talk to. Or so I'm like, man,

670
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: we need to get this old with because I'm gonna

671
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: ask my mama, like what you think?

672
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? After the whole me over.

673
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: So after they finished talking and all that stuff there

674
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, there's you got any crust questions, I'm like, yeah,

675
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: can y'all get me to.

676
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 6: Play in that Rocking Jock MTV Rocking Jock game? That's so,

677
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: that's that's when you say the rock I just wanted

678
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: to play.

679
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: I want to play. I want the real New York.

680
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 6: You have this, I think the appropriate story to a

681
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 6: company that the epitome of what he is saying was he.

682
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: That when you first got there, he came to the

683
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: next year, came the next year.

684
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So I can't no, I didn't. I was your

685
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: first year, bro, I met you in training camp.

686
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: Okay.

687
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 6: I wasn't there when.

688
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so you will remember this because they gave me

689
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: my sweeteny's old room.

690
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 6: So the first first ever years remember this, the first

691
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 6: ever game and the mohogue.

692
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let me see the Mohegan's son. Let me

693
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: tell you that, let me tell you this that ever.

694
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 6: This is him saying, I want to go to the

695
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 6: Rutger first first game, the.

696
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: First the first game in the NBA preseason in Connecticut, Connecticut,

697
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: were playing against New Jersey, Jersey.

698
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 6: Yes, I remember that.

699
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: I coached with me in the game. Not even like

700
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: not even like ten seconds. I would say, maybe like

701
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds.

702
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: Game.

703
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Come into the mini game, I should the passing, I

704
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: get a steal.

705
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 6: I swear.

706
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: The world slowed down and I it was like options.

707
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: It was like, hey, throwed off the backboard, be bounceing

708
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: to yourself from windmill, d between the legs, eat all

709
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: the above. So I was like, I just so I

710
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: went slow down. I threw it off the backboard and

711
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: want to go dunk it. And then Richard Jefferson running

712
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: down saving the day, running like this. He runs and

713
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: he found me. He comes and fouls me. I fall

714
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: on the ground. They referendent called no foul.

715
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: The ball hit me in the head.

716
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: I laid there right. I laid there like I was hurt.

717
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: All the way to Coach Brown walked.

718
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 6: He walked over and looked at me.

719
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: I just got up a ran straight to the bitch

720
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: because I knew I was down.

721
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: I looked at the crack it up last because Coach

722
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: Brown he told somebody like go talk to him.

723
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: He told got to talk to me, right. So after

724
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: the game, we win the game though, and then coach

725
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Coach goes, honestly, son, I need the truth. What were

726
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: you thinking?

727
00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 6: I know.

728
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: I was like, and I say, you want the truth

729
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: or you want me to lie to you? He was like, honestly,

730
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: I want the truth. I was like, honestly, Coach, I

731
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: was thinking about all my homies back home in sports sports.

732
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: I want sports like straight up. And he was like, oh,

733
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: we got the damn highlight real gear. And that's I

734
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: think that's when I learned I got, I earned my

735
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: name a little bit.

736
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: This was this was the best part. So after long

737
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: got the Coach Brown left out. You know this New

738
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 6: York bro, you know the New York media bro. They

739
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 6: hovered they can't wait to talk to him and ask

740
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 6: him because they didn't already talk to Coach Brown. He

741
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: didn't say some comments about it, so they all like,

742
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: I'm sitting next to him putting my stuff on. Nate

743
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 6: Nate purposely turned his back because he know that they

744
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 6: didn't got started. He don't know how many, but he

745
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 6: just know they hovering from positions veranda, so they getting

746
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 6: worked up. As he getting this, he like, oh my god,

747
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 6: I already know. He like, first of all, I will

748
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: I did because I'm Nate Robinson to night ten times.

749
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 6: I'll do it if i'd have.

750
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: Made and all y'all have been on me to be

751
00:31:53,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: on number one on sports. Like I looked at him,

752
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: I got.

753
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Like Kobe said, I'm going for the I'm going for

754
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: the gusto every time, every time, first time touch about.

755
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: Ever touching the basketball in the game.

756
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 6: You can't make this up. His first time, I swear

757
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 6: it was like like he said, it was like I

758
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 6: don't know if it was a free throw away he

759
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 6: hit the l I said, oh my god.

760
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: What should I do? In my head, I was all right,

761
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: what do you do you think off the glass?

762
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: You know?

763
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: Easy done?

764
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: Bro.

765
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna show him what's up

766
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: because I was thinking I gotta get a dunk contest,

767
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: show myself, gonna shattle.

768
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: Let him know right now, I'm letting the league know

769
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: this is what is how I'm playing.

770
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I guess I got y'all play together, and you used

771
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: to always call me or he always tell a story

772
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: about y'all playing the pranks on each other doing the

773
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: New York wows. It was crazy, even though you know

774
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: you be having some bad seasons, but just to come

775
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: ritery of the fun of that, you have, like, tell

776
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: us some of the stories that I didn't.

777
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: See no bad days I was in the league.

778
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: I made it.

779
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Y'all can tell me lose.

780
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: We lose eighty two games.

781
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the same way every game I didn't.

782
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm not worring, but y'all, y'all, I'll let the corporate

783
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: people be mad about us losing.

784
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: Y'all. I used to turn the trippy read some games

785
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: like here used to be.

786
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't. I didn't like that.

787
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: So I'm telling him, like, y'all can't be blaming me

788
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: for ship Like I don't care what y'all say.

789
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 6: I'm not.

790
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: I don't start, y'all play me like four minutes. I'm

791
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: trying to get fifteen points four minutes period. I came

792
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: here to get buckets. So when we were on the team,

793
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: I remember one time me and Eddie playing Xbox. We

794
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: first Xbox first came out like first, like the first

795
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: real dope Xbox were playing playing I'm kicking Eddie's ass

796
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: in the game. He smacked my controller. He's mad, I said, bro,

797
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: you keep doing I'm breaking your Xbox. Yeah whatever. Malik

798
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: rolls Q in there and killing Eddie and Madden talking

799
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: sh this week is your week?

800
00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 6: Is head?

801
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 2: Eddie was like, man, man, forget this Xbox. I said, man,

802
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: all right. I jumped on the bed, off the bed,

803
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: jumped off and dumped on his Xbox.

804
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: Man.

805
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: Eddie picked me up and like literally bear hugged me.

806
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: I said, b I can't believe you have to kill me.

807
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: Let me go.

808
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 3: You don't go give me a new okay, let me go.

809
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 6: Let me go.

810
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: Man.

811
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I was like, man, ain't going to get your.

812
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 7: Let me go.

813
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: I had to go get him a new Xbox.

814
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 4: But he was jump off his bro like because you

815
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: gotta know. Like like when I got drafted to Chicago,

816
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: everything was about like trying to make us grow up,

817
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. They had older people around us.

818
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: It was an older team, but I was fresh. This

819
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: was the old school league. They wasn't really playing young players.

820
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 6: Like that. You know what I'm saying. Then when we

821
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: get to New York.

822
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: You know, he come in the league and it's like

823
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm experiencing what a young player really is. You know

824
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Because and that was crazy, Bro. I

825
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: never seen nothing like it. Bro.

826
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 6: It was a crazy funny Eddie.

827
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: Literally me and eddiewhere in separated his house.

828
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: Got to know for sure, Bro to show up and

829
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: just ask some stuff.

830
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 6: House to show.

831
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do the door, sup, But what

832
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: you got to eat in here? He has chefs, Bro,

833
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: I never had a chef in my life. He has

834
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: a chef at the crib. I'm like, but I ain't

835
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: about to go get no practice, CI, I'm going to

836
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: cue house.

837
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: He's not going to open the door though, open cool.

838
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: What's up?

839
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 5: Man?

840
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: They get tats all that. I'm like, yeah, I'm in here,

841
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: what's up? Free tats on me here?

842
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 6: What's good? He was a little bro like I had

843
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 6: a tattoo, got come for me? They like, big Bro,

844
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 6: what's up?

845
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

846
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 6: Let me get something here? Like man, you know I'm

847
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: trying to get something like Ado all that.

848
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: Man.

849
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: But see I was a good little boat because they

850
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: was like whatever they needed, bro, go give me this,

851
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: Go give me that, man, no doubt, it's nothing. Come

852
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: bring it to the house. Whatever y'all need. I'm there,

853
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: Like y'all call me three four in the morning. I

854
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: need you to go run yup.

855
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 6: There's nothing I used to be literally time he used

856
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 6: to be doing some mudy he could just be.

857
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: Like screaming, like I got to put it back together.

858
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: Man.

859
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: That's one of the funniest stories I can tell you

860
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: about the next seasons that y'all had.

861
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: Most of the stuff I got. I can't even say,

862
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: look what I got, stuff that the Statute of limitations

863
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 4: don't cover.

864
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Bro.

865
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: I remember the one time, no was it the second

866
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: my second year in the league. The first game of

867
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: the season, Dolan comes in and he's I want to

868
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: show you got something voice. You know he has a

869
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: little band or whatever the he got and he was like,

870
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: I want to show you got something. He made a

871
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: song called Ghost Takes Control.

872
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: I never forget this, he's singing a song.

873
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he put his song on our highlight tape.

874
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: When I tell you before you know how you have

875
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: a highlights from the previous season and to get us

876
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: going ready to play. When I tell you, it was

877
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: the boringest highlight tape I ever seen. Bro, I was pissed.

878
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: We went out and got this is his wheel House said,

879
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm like.

880
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: And and then I asked him. I said, man, y'all

881
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: picked this song and it's the owner. I said, y'all

882
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: picked this song. But I like that that it was

883
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: him the song, I said.

884
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: I told him, I said this song is terful.

885
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: Yea robber because he didn't have a filter.

886
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: So I said, Bro, there's no way we're going out

887
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: there about to win. I said, there's no way we're

888
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: gonna win the game playing playing that.

889
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: Bro.

890
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: We need whatever jay Z something.

891
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: Wayne, little Wayne out, I said, little Wayne out here.

892
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: Play Wheezy Bro, play the Ghost Taste control. But we

893
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: went out and got blasted about like forty and then

894
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: we come Look, then we come back, you know, after

895
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: the game. Coach comes in. He said, Man, I don't

896
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: know why the reason we lost everything?

897
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. No, listen, remember I'm telling you, bro.

898
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: Coach asked us, I don't know why we lost. I

899
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: told him I know why. It's that damn song that

900
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: she was playing with the highlight tape. That's what that

901
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: ship was so funny. You got nothing, Yeah he do,

902
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: he got one.

903
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: I don't got nothing. I can tell him. I swear

904
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 6: to God. Bro, what about when he put the X

905
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 6: flax in your in your cereal?

906
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you had to ship on the plane.

907
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 6: That was that wass man, get the X flax, the flax,

908
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 6: making lay play the fine just together.

909
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: That That was a good That was a good one though,

910
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: because we had a we had a roll no shipping

911
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: on the plane. So I was like, oh yeah, I'm

912
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: gonna give my boy Eddie with this one. You know,

913
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: because when I got to the team, they had like

914
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: healthy stuff and I'm like, bro, what is this broin

915
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 2: No honey buns, no cookies, no nothing. So I started

916
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: bringing I started going grocery shop and bringing cereal all

917
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: that like, and I would hiding in the little you know,

918
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: a little little cat and then like Eddie, look like,

919
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: yo mean get some cereal, like you know, crunch all

920
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: the stuff that we grew up eating. So I was like, cool, bro,

921
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm making for you. Give him making a ball with

922
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: the slags. Inner gave it ate the whole thing. Bubble guts,

923
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: bubble bubble guts on the plane.

924
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: The game because you I don't think I missed the game,

925
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: but it was it was he wasted and stuff from

926
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: no man, it was it was bad.

927
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 6: We had fun, just know it was cream under the

928
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 6: soul of that was that was they took him, he.

929
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: Would he would violate your stuff.

930
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 6: In the in the free remember when you get your

931
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 6: knees and they put that thing man bro they had

932
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 6: put his suit. It was I was limited for us to,

933
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 6: like you know what I'm saying, play for Zeke in

934
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 6: New York, go through that whole process. Contrary to what

935
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 6: a lot of people say about Zeke. For us three

936
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 6: in particular, was the mame was like then what you

937
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 6: talking about, like when you're talking about for real, held

938
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: us down as far as personal situations and making sure

939
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 6: that us and our family out straight and whatever we

940
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 6: got going on and doing the right thing by us

941
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: as people first before you even talk about the players

942
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 6: and then talk about you know what I'm saying, the confidence,

943
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 6: especially you, the confidence he instilled in you and your game,

944
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 6: well you had, like you remember how he had like

945
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 6: what that stretch was when he went who didn't want

946
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 6: no parts of the last So like just from that standpoint,

947
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 6: how did that feel because we all were from the cribs.

948
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: You know, Zeke one of the guys. You know, you

949
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 6: meet him a few times, but then when we get

950
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 6: to play for him and he really showing us love

951
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: and looking out like, I know what it meant to me,

952
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: but just for you guys to talk about what it

953
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: meant for y'all.

954
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, I mean, it was even I take

955
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: it a step above that. I was coming right off

956
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: of my regular heartbeat, so I go from before that,

957
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: I could have went anywhere. The Bulls was about to

958
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: give me a crazy extension all of that, and then

959
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: I had the regular heartbeat, and nobody wanted to fuck

960
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: with me. Only people that even gave me an offer.

961
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: Only people that was trying to do something more Zeke

962
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: and the Nuggets was trying to do something but other

963
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: than that, Like I mean, and if it wasn't from

964
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: him for him, I couldn't even got my number even

965
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: where it even was, you know what I'm saying. I

966
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 4: could have been on some one year shit because the

967
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: Bulls was I had one more year left and they

968
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: was gonna just let me sit that whole year. They

969
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: weren't gonna play me. So it's like if you could

970
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 4: find a sign and trade, we'll do it. And my

971
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: agent worked and talked to Zeke, and Zeke was able

972
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: to do it. Man. So I mean without that, I

973
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: mean my career probably would have been over with who

974
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: knows what would have happened. So and like you said,

975
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: just instilling me, instilling that confidence in me, because I

976
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 4: was coming from a situation. Bro. As much as I

977
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: love playing in Chicago and being at the crib, like

978
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: they kind of like try to hold you down. It

979
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: felt like to me, you know what I'm saying, they

980
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: pushed you, they wanted to push, They let who they

981
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: wanted to play play, and I just kind of felt like, man,

982
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: you was kind of restricted. Like that's just kind of

983
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: how I felt with Jerry Kraus and all of that.

984
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: But you know, I go to New York and it's

985
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 4: a total opposite, you know what I'm saying. He's pro player,

986
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: He know what it's like to be a player in.

987
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 5: Game.

988
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 6: He would go out of his way to tell he

989
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 6: would tell you whatever to get you in your mode,

990
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 6: but he would make sure that he would tell everybody

991
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 6: in front of you, so you knew that everybody knew.

992
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: Look, we played through him, he get the ball and

993
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: then we go off that.

994
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: So for me, you know, Zeke gave me my first opportunity.

995
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: He's the one that traded you know, got the draft

996
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: pick from Phoenix, traded for me. And he was like, bro,

997
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: I believe when I had my workout in New York,

998
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: I just had a great workout. He was like, man,

999
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: I love your game. You coming to New York And

1000
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: I thought he was playing like you know, I'm like

1001
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: all right, and like New York was like my last worker.

1002
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: I did like twenty nine workouts I did with every

1003
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: team and like to get to New York my playing

1004
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: like engines crazy. I was like, I told my agent,

1005
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: I'm not going. Bro, Like that's a sign.

1006
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 6: It's like, don't go.

1007
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: He's liked, no, trust me, I'm gonna get you another flight.

1008
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: Just go. And then there was like do you want

1009
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: them to push the workout back because the workout was

1010
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: like six am. I was like, nope, if I fly

1011
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: there right when I land, go straight to the workout,

1012
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: and I want to leave immediately. So I went there,

1013
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: had a great workout and ended up Zeke drafting me

1014
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: like really like picking me out of all the guards.

1015
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: He picked me.

1016
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: So I was like, bro, I owe it to him

1017
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: to really go out and just and be that dog

1018
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: that he believed in. So this is when I knew

1019
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Zeke was that real deal. I heard stories like, as

1020
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: a kid, my dad was like, that's my dad's favorite player.

1021
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: Him and Doctor J and my daddy tell me stories

1022
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: about Zeke, and I was like, all right, dad, you

1023
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I want to see for myself.

1024
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: I remember one time he practiced with us. He had sweats,

1025
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: clip whistle put it didn't didn't do nothing, didn't even

1026
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: didn't even lace his shoes really, and was cooking Marbury

1027
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: no dispect to Marlbari and Marberry is a god too.

1028
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: He's balling all that.

1029
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: When I say cooking, cooking like showing doing the play.

1030
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 6: Everything is working, getting sun with y'all.

1031
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't believe it.

1032
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it was crazy, making shot floaters,

1033
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: left hand runners off the backboard and shot like everything.

1034
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, that's our coach out here. I said, Bro,

1035
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: you can still play. He said, just showing y'all. You

1036
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. What I would do if I

1037
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: was playing totally blew me away. I was like that

1038
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: he cold, Like really, I told me. I called my

1039
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 2: dad out. I said, Dad, you rite all them stories

1040
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: you told me as a kid. But he the real deal.

1041
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: Bro.

1042
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 6: You remember y'all was dead when everything went down with

1043
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 6: my brother.

1044
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: Y'all saw how yeah he wrote, he yeah, went to

1045
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: the funeral. Everything set up there now and my family

1046
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: he was he was.

1047
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: He was a dope.

1048
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 6: He was the dope team that took care man. Bro

1049
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 6: talking about you, hear me, you can't say none of

1050
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 6: my daddy about about.

1051
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: He was cool because I remember, like right right before

1052
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: when I got to my rookie year, I wouldn't even

1053
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: get paid yet. I was still broke, no money, no nothing.

1054
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: He gave his black card. Was like, bro, go only

1055
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: thing you can you can't do. You can't buy no car,

1056
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: no house, everything else you good food, whatever, clothes good.

1057
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: I said, Bro, what that's crazy. I can't believe it.

1058
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: Bro.

1059
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, Bro, what I'm gonna do with this?

1060
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: I said, I just I just wanted a burger from

1061
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: jackings Ball Young got jacket box out here.

1062
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: Bro.

1063
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: He was like, nah, Bro, We're gonna take it to

1064
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: a real restaurant.

1065
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 6: Black Jack bar Man I just want I just.

1066
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: Brought, I brought. I didn't have the first my first

1067
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: steak until I got to the lead bro. I didn't

1068
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: know none of that Gucci, none.

1069
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: The league I had. What happened, I got him the

1070
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: suit he had to give suit.

1071
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: We had no clothes.

1072
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: That was.

1073
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 6: You had really responsible for the league when that league

1074
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 6: put in that dress code because they were seeing us

1075
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 6: anytime we assembled.

1076
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: We got on the bus plane.

1077
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Remember he didn't let.

1078
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: You get on the plane if you didn't have a tie. David,

1079
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: he didn't have a tie. He said, don't get on

1080
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: my plan until you get the time. We had to

1081
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: somebody had to give him the extra time, get the

1082
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: time to plan, get him on the plane. He was

1083
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: gonna leave him because we didn't have no tie.

1084
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: Remember when we signed Matt in training camp and he

1085
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: showed up with no suit, Malik had to wear a

1086
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 6: Jackie Butler suit and give him his suit.

1087
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, all that.

1088
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 6: He can't fly like he had that thing. The only

1089
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: thing he didn't do is he didn't make us worry

1090
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 6: about our hair like you know how the Yankees had

1091
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 6: to have a certain type of hand no face, and

1092
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: he ain't. That's with out here but we had to

1093
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 6: wear full suits and tie. And he got people in there.

1094
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 6: He got people wars is probably he made he made

1095
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 6: your own suite on your grown up and you dudes

1096
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 6: was wearing baggykers and couldn't in the walkers, so you

1097
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 6: had to wear a full suit. Bro, I want to

1098
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 6: ask you about the time. I don't remember the whole

1099
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 6: You can probably fill in the blanks, but I was gone.

1100
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 6: Now I'm in Miami. You still with the Knicks. I

1101
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 6: don't know how many games you got set out. You

1102
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 6: set out.

1103
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: Fourteen, fourteen games. It was end up being a whole month.

1104
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 6: He set out a month of basketball games, no min is,

1105
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 6: no nothing, nothing, and then was forced to play because

1106
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 6: of injuries.

1107
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: Right, I don't think it was injury.

1108
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: It was just like nothing was no.

1109
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: Nobody was just like, whatever happened.

1110
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 6: Now he's just gonna play out the whole. I'm watching

1111
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: the game live. How was it forty? The boy went

1112
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 6: out that and lost his entire mind?

1113
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 4: That was crazy.

1114
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 6: I remember sitting there looking at it like I felt

1115
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 6: like like that's the epitome. It's a representative of what

1116
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: you live bout your heart over height, Like no matter what,

1117
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 6: all right, you you do this like, I'm gonna just

1118
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 6: wait and then as soon as I get my opportunity.

1119
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: So how that played out, You know, D'Antoni said me

1120
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: on the bench for nothing, and you know coach that

1121
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: he wouldn't even talk to me. He would see me

1122
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: walk the other way. I would like call meetings like

1123
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: I want to meet with you in practice, you know,

1124
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: like before practice, coming early and sit down and.

1125
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 6: Talk to him.

1126
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: And he wouldn't even take my meetings.

1127
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: So what I do?

1128
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: I used to go in his office just wait for him. Yep,

1129
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: come in and just sit and wait. You're gonna talk

1130
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: to me, bro, You're gonna explain to me what I

1131
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: did and what like, tell me what I need to change.

1132
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: He didn't even want to talk to me. So I

1133
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: was like, all right, cool. So I just start working

1134
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: out every day hard, and every day when we go

1135
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: to the game, I run the stairs, get my shots

1136
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: up and just wait, just be cheering for my teammates

1137
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: and just weigh my you know, wait my opportunity. So

1138
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 2: the new year came and I ran into the coach

1139
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: because it was a coach Mike what was his name,

1140
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: Mike for Atlanta Hawks. Yeah, so it was I seen

1141
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: him and his wife and uh out for dinner, and

1142
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: I took I called my mom. I said, Mom, man like,

1143
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: I need you to come to Atlanta. I need to

1144
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: see a fresh face and I need to come chill.

1145
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: I flew her out to me. She came, We ate

1146
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: and we end up dancing, just having a good time

1147
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: that night, and then coach was like, oh, you're gonna

1148
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: play tomorrow. I was like, probably not. I ain't playing

1149
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: the whole month. Coach, he ain't probably messing with me.

1150
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: He was like, good, because I don't want to have

1151
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: to deal with scouting scouting you.

1152
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: So I was like all right.

1153
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: So I went to the game, ran my stairs, did

1154
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: it my whole workout, coaching them calling my name to

1155
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: get in the game. I was like, oh yeah, So

1156
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: all I can think about is the Waterboy. No, lie,

1157
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: you remember water Boy when he told the coach to

1158
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: imagine him being somebody that's you know, not effective. So

1159
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: I just pictured everybody's face that was on Atlanta house

1160
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: was D'Antoni. I was gonna cook you, Like that's what

1161
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: I thought. I'm about to cook you, Coach. Every bucket

1162
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: is dedicated to you. You know what I'm saying, so

1163
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: I made my first shot. I was like, okay, cool,

1164
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: you know, I made my first shot. All I'm hot.

1165
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: So I came down, get a layup, come down, get

1166
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: another one, get another one, came down, pull up three.

1167
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, it's really it's about to

1168
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: be fun. So then the game's going back with training baskets,

1169
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: Joe John's they going up eight, come back, you know,

1170
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: back and forth. And in the game we go to overtime.

1171
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: I look, I have forty one points, like eight rebound,

1172
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: six steals six and sis like something crazy and winning

1173
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: the game. And I just think my teammates, man, like

1174
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: they without them. I was like, bro, because being sane

1175
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: in the time where you're not playing and they know

1176
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 2: you should be playing.

1177
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: Bro.

1178
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: They was like, man, just don't even trip. You know

1179
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Just come you know, I'll just come

1180
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: in to practice every day, still cooking in practice, picking

1181
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: up God's full court.

1182
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 6: Through my thing.

1183
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, when my time come, I'm

1184
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: gonna show him. I'm like, he's gonna get the best

1185
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: of me today. So that was that's how that went.

1186
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: You've been on a lot of teams, You've been in

1187
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: a lot of situations some where you're in the best

1188
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: situation possible. Song that you ain't in the best situation.

1189
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: You want to get better, So you come to a

1190
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: place where you can humble yourself and you be on

1191
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat team with all these superstars and get

1192
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: a chance to go through a.

1193
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 4: And win a.

1194
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: Championship like tell us, Like, because you don't have been

1195
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: on where y'all lost damn near every game, you felt

1196
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: like so to to get the ultimate goal even though

1197
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: you weren't playing the most of a minute, but just

1198
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: to be around magic like that, that's a magic season

1199
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: for any team to win it in the year, Like

1200
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: how did that feel?

1201
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: To win an NBA championship? The whole season kind of

1202
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 4: felt like a dream honestly, Like I don't know, weird stuff,

1203
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: but just I knew Bron and stuff from when he

1204
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: was a kid and everything. But to see Bron being

1205
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: Bron though, you know what I'm saying, to watch all

1206
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: the stuff that behind the scenes stuff that this dude

1207
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 4: gotta do every game. D Wade, like I can remember

1208
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: d Wade from like Richards, you know what I'm saying.

1209
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: We used to play, We used to go to the

1210
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 4: same Award ceremony. We would play them, you know what

1211
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying stuff like that. So to see them like

1212
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 4: B d Wade and Chris Bosh and be a part

1213
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 4: of that whole team, that was crazy. Bro. It was crazy.

1214
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: The rings with the rings dope, the rings is crazy,

1215
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 4: super iced out, Chunky and Patris got a ring too.

1216
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: My wife got a ring. It was crazy, bro.

1217
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 6: The Miami Heat organization. I feel like d Wade.

1218
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: Nothing against d Wade, but like Miami Heat get everything

1219
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: out of d Wade for d Wade to become d Wade.

1220
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: A lot of organizations don't do that with their player.

1221
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: So for you to be on Miami Heat team, you

1222
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: gotta do what they got you to do. You don't

1223
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: have a body fat no matter if you playing or not.

1224
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: As an organization, what did you think, like, Oh, if

1225
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: I would have got drafted in Miami, I'll probably have

1226
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: been a way better player from the kick maybe if

1227
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: they would have gotten.

1228
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: They don't play that ship, man, Yeah, they don't play

1229
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: that ship. And it's never like a negotiation or like

1230
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: a compromise, you know what I'm saying. It's this where

1231
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: you should be, This where you're gonna be, period. And

1232
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: they do that for everybody, for Lebron, for d Way,

1233
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: like for everybody, So you ain't never gonna be them.

1234
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: Who am I to argue if you you know what

1235
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying Lebron, and they can't you know what I'm saying.

1236
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: So it's like, all right, I'm gonna do what I

1237
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: gotta do me. I'm gonna hit this damn exercise bike

1238
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: till I'm where I need to be, or I'm gonna

1239
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: come in and do this extra work. And with them

1240
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: it was never just even only the body fat type stuff,

1241
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: it was physically, can you get on the court and

1242
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 4: do everything we need you to do because if somebody

1243
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: go down, they need you to be able to step

1244
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: right in and be ready to go. Man, you know you.

1245
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Of course, when you went to the Knicks, it was

1246
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: a lot of star power on the Knicks, a lot

1247
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: of big names. But when you play with the Celtics

1248
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: with Shack and Kevin going there and Paul Pursed all

1249
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: these different star powers, and like you came up looking

1250
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: at these guys, having these guys posters and jerseys and

1251
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: looking up to them, what was that?

1252
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 5: Like?

1253
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: I used to see some video of like how you

1254
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: and Shaq used to interact and you know, playing around

1255
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: and just like what I'm saying, you look like big

1256
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: kids playing but it's just like man being with the

1257
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: home the fellas the Homeboys and then joined just a

1258
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: season see with them.

1259
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: It was just the pinnacle, you know, all them OG's, yeah,

1260
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: Ray Allen, Paul, like you know what I'm saying, that

1261
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: were og. So it was like certain things they let fly.

1262
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: But when it's time to work, all that funny goofy

1263
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: shit stop. So I had to learn how to nip

1264
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: that shit in the butt. So I just followed shit,

1265
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: you know things that Ray did. Ray Allen was coming

1266
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: early and I was like, I'm just follow Ray Shadow Ray.

1267
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: I followed Ray around, ran the trail mill with him,

1268
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: got shot up with him, and I just did that stuff.

1269
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: And then like when we was being goofy when practice

1270
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: went over, Shack and Baby and KG like they were

1271
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: just so cool and they were with everything we were doing.

1272
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 2: We used to bring masking, hit super soke everything. We did,

1273
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: all the fun stuff that we did, but once it

1274
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: was time to work and study and do all the stuff,

1275
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: it was like none of that ship out the window.

1276
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: Stop it cut it and let's just it's grind.

1277
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I went to a training camp with Doc and like,

1278
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: uh the way he preserved they body, Yeah, no practice,

1279
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: practice shoot around. Oh yeah, that was that was lit

1280
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: because they never had a coach like that. That was

1281
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: the best training camp I ever had, especially having bad

1282
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: needs the best.

1283
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: It's lit because then the younger guys, we get more

1284
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: of opportunity to blossom, to be able to work on

1285
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: our game like we did ones. You know, then we

1286
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: can get more shots of guys because you know, like

1287
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: he wanted players in the game. I need you in

1288
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: the game playing and doing what you're supposed to, need

1289
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: you to be yourself in the game. But the guys

1290
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: that with younger guys that had energy, me Averyith Daniels, like,

1291
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, we practiced, we played ones every day, went

1292
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: over our five on those stuff just to make sure

1293
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: that we had our stuff down so they won't be scrimmage,

1294
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: and did the stuff like it was no drop off.

1295
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: You walk in the practice facility and you see them

1296
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: old school banners up, and when you walk in the arena,

1297
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: something in the earth. Yeah, you play for a bunch

1298
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: of teams. Did you feel like I play for the

1299
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: sure other teams that you played for the Celtics, for sure,

1300
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: I felt that.

1301
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: And playing in Chicago when I was like stepping in

1302
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: oning with Jordan stepp Is footing like that. Like for me,

1303
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: I was like, bro like this putting on his bulls

1304
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: Jersey Like, I was like, Broers.

1305
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 6: Just compliment you on here on the show, on for

1306
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 6: the city. The city loved you, not only just for

1307
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 6: I already knew what you was gonna do, just because

1308
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 6: I know you, my brother, I knew what you was

1309
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 6: gonna do.

1310
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the shoe swag that you brought through.

1311
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 6: The man man about straight out.

1312
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: About that.

1313
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 6: He did a personal thing with the when they bringing

1314
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 6: retro he was gonna wear with him j Ward, and.

1315
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: That was that was So I was like, so what

1316
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: I would do. I would go back and see what

1317
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: Jersey wore for the in game, and then I would

1318
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: go back and see what Jordan's that Jordan wore in

1319
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: the game, and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna

1320
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: rock those. I'm a rock every just so the pen

1321
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: strikes you wore the pats, I'm wearing the rock field.

1322
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like I

1323
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: was trying to be the shoot king. I was just

1324
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be like J. I want that magic.

1325
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: And then in the playoffs he wore thirteen so he

1326
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: was getting buckets. I'm like, I'm wearing the It was sick.

1327
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: It was just it was then to see you tie

1328
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: m J record like boy put up whatever.

1329
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: It was, it was unbelievable.

1330
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Did you know beforehand what the record was or anything.

1331
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: That's one thing I don't care about. I just want

1332
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: to hoop. I know that I just wanted to hoop.

1333
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know what the record was, none of that.

1334
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 2: I just go out and play.

1335
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 6: Well, how was it when they told you after?

1336
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 4: They was like your name next to MJ.

1337
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: It was pretty fire. Yeah, it's pretty fire. And then

1338
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: just the opportunity that presented itself, you know that year

1339
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: because I was on I was on the I was

1340
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: on the Warriors, and then I was on a one

1341
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: year deal. I didn't know where I was gonna be,

1342
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: and then Tims called me, he has me can I

1343
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: played YadA YadA all this, and then I was like third.

1344
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: I was like, let me see.

1345
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 4: It was Kurt Heinrich.

1346
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: Well d Rose was hurt, so it was de Rose,

1347
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: Kurt Heinrich, Marcus Tige, and young fella that they drafted

1348
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: from Kentucky. So he was like, man, you're gonna be

1349
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: like third man, third man off the like third guard,

1350
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, you know, I ain't worry.

1351
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: I'll say, coach, when you put me in the game,

1352
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: I'll do my things. This is you know, just spit

1353
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: me on the team. I had a non guaranteed contract

1354
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: and that, and they would kind of like treat me

1355
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: like that too in the beginning, you know. So I

1356
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: was like, man, listen, I'm just you know, do what

1357
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: I do and just play and whatever, you know, whatever

1358
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: happens happens. And you know, playing in Chicago, I was

1359
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: just you know, thinking about just I want to be

1360
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: like Mike. All the talkers hear it in my mind here,

1361
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: I want to be like Mike. So I just played,

1362
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: and you know, certain guys went down, and I just

1363
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: played every I played every practice, I played every preseason,

1364
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: every season game, playoff game. I didn't miss nothing. Me

1365
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Butler was the only person that didn't miss

1366
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 2: anything all season, and that seemed was special because Tims

1367
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: really didn't want to play.

1368
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 5: Me, you know.

1369
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: But he had to, and I was like, this is perfect.

1370
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: I said, this is what I need to show him.

1371
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm just not a dunker. I'm just not a guy

1372
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: that comes in and just get But I can really play,

1373
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: and I think I showed that by having my sisterner

1374
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: Rad show was one of the top of the league

1375
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: at the time, coming off the bench two steals a game.

1376
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: It was lit.

1377
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: I had a good time. And then every day me

1378
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Butler was playing one on one and that's

1379
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: the only person I never beat one on one, and

1380
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: it was like I was every day me and he

1381
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: will get shot up. And I was going to like

1382
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: this little whether you guys have life clubs out here?

1383
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: What is it called like life Lifetime? Yeah, So I

1384
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: had one right by and Skulkie right down the street

1385
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: from my house. So I would take my ball and

1386
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: just go across and they would let me in. I

1387
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: would just get shot up. Even every day, like I

1388
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: would just go randomly, just go over there, you know,

1389
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: I'll just go get shot up, and Jimmy will come

1390
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: over here with me. I'm a jym about to go

1391
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: to the Jimmy one. Come He's like, yep, he will

1392
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: come over playing all his little country music and I

1393
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: was like, Bro, I said, yeah, I said, I told him,

1394
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: I said, Bro, you're not just not a lockdown defender, bro,

1395
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: like you really can get buckets. You need to believe

1396
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: in yourself because he was just believing like Tim was

1397
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: using him as defense. I said, no, Bro, you got it,

1398
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: and you need to stop cage in your game and

1399
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: just blossom, you know what I'm saying, like a flower,

1400
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: like open episode the world and see how dope you

1401
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: really are. And so I think, you know, just you know,

1402
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: playing it helping him, and it helped me a lot

1403
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: because trying to be able to score for Jimmy Butler

1404
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: wasn't easy. And I was like, if I could score

1405
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: for Jimmy, nobody's gonna stop me in the league.

1406
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: For both of y'all when y'all came up, who was

1407
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: the one person or a few people that y'all looked

1408
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: at and was like, I want to be like that person.

1409
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: MJ was always somebody I wanted to Every kid wanted

1410
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: to be MJ. Right. So, but other than that, I

1411
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: mean Chris Webber, like I used to love see webs game,

1412
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: Like I used to feel like, man, if I could

1413
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: play like that. I could show people I could do

1414
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 4: more than just shoot jump hooks and stuff like that

1415
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: with a fab five bullet bullet warrior all. I like

1416
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 4: all of it. I was like you Chris Webber fans

1417
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: Son when he got to sack and he was passing

1418
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: the ball a little bit and you know, playing he

1419
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: added the jumper and he was playing with white chocolate.

1420
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1421
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: I was like, I need to be just like that,

1422
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,959
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean I have a couple.

1423
00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: Man.

1424
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: Jordan of course was number one on this, but it

1425
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: was Ai and uh Jason Wins white chocolate. Jason Wins

1426
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: made me feel like it's okay to be yourself. Like

1427
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: he was coming in behind the back down, like he

1428
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: was doing stuff like nobody ever seen.

1429
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 4: I was like, bro, even tried.

1430
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, what like that's

1431
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: a that's a thing in the league, because you know

1432
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: league they want you to be they want you to

1433
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: be the robot.

1434
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1435
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 5: He doing.

1436
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, he's doing doing crazy stuff

1437
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: like that. So he made me and then he was himself.

1438
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: So he made me him and I made me feel

1439
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: like it's okay to be who you are. And then

1440
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like Deone Sander's Prime Time when

1441
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: I you know, like he he made me feel like,

1442
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: you know.

1443
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: Being who you are.

1444
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: Look good, you feel good, you played good, like I

1445
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: live by. Like I used to wear his football shoes

1446
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: and my whole game when I was like ten eleven

1447
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: years old, Like that was my first real pair of

1448
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: shoes I fell in love with, Like those are my babies,

1449
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. So like when I

1450
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: wanted to be like Dion like Prime, I played football,

1451
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: I did you know? I did everything like he played baseball,

1452
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: multiple sports. I was like, man, I want to be

1453
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: like that, Like why not? And then you know he

1454
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: made songs. I was like, Bro, is he lit?

1455
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: Coming up? In basketball? You be in so many different realms.

1456
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: You be in au ball, high school, ball college, over

1457
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: the years, if you play, whether people know him or not,

1458
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: whether you know this name or don't know this name.

1459
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: Who was the one person that was like a walking bucket?

1460
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 4: But I remember Zebra in high school. Bro was killing.

1461
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 4: He was so cold. I had never seen nobody that cold.

1462
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 6: You know, none of his moves fancy it's just basic

1463
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 6: because I remember.

1464
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 4: Like first thing at Nike camp, I think it was,

1465
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm watching him warm up, like, man,

1466
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 4: why he here, you know what I'm saying. And he

1467
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 4: was cool, like he was cool as shit with me,

1468
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 4: but I didn't understand. I'm like, everybody here could dunk

1469
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: and jump over people and shit, you know what I'm saying.

1470
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 4: Like that, he wasn't like that. But when I saw

1471
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: him playing, he was just bucket after bucket after the bucket.

1472
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 6: I'm scoring, like motherfucker, that's.

1473
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 4: Crazy, bro. But on the guard side, it was people

1474
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: like just doing that. Carlos Hurt. I remember seeing Carlos Hurt.

1475
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 4: He from Houston. I think.

1476
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: I remember call those Hurt, that's where you're from. Yeah,

1477
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: calls Hurt. Was dudes like that.

1478
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 6: He used to have like parts in his eyebro.

1479
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: Country ball.

1480
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, country boys.

1481
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: Because you know, like how we were bumping to each

1482
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 4: other like NBA camp, you could see who could really hoop,

1483
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't all just

1484
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: Invice and my daddy. No NBA players, So yeah, nah, bro,

1485
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 4: it was whoopers there.

1486
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: I used to lose my ranking at camps because you know,

1487
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: you go to camps and everybody want to show their

1488
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: stuff because all the college coaches there.

1489
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 6: And I used to be like, yeah, here, I don't

1490
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 6: want to gonna get your rocks off.

1491
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: Bro.

1492
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 6: I catch you in a tournament and something to give

1493
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 6: you this work.

1494
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: But around here, I just didn't want to overdo it

1495
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to be like the other guys.

1496
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, you get some of them guys who feel

1497
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: like they're just better than everybody, had an ego and

1498
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: they getting getting the camp and they want to shoot

1499
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: all the rocks every time. So you on my team,

1500
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it to you about you who's the Remember?

1501
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1502
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: When I was an AU like, I played football, so

1503
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: I really didn't go to all the tournaments and camps

1504
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: like y'all probably went to. I missed those. I didn't

1505
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: really do that. But when I played AU, I remember

1506
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: this kid named Jonathan haggartt remember yeah, so he was

1507
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: like he was like my high too. So when I

1508
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: see him, I remember he got the off the tip,

1509
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: got the ball, got the wall cross dude and threw

1510
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: it off the bad boy and when dunked, and he's

1511
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: like five or five teen, I was like, bro who

1512
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: he played Atlanta Celtics. Never forget it. I was like, oh,

1513
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: I gotta go watch him play. More so him playing

1514
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: the final four in the Big Time Tournament, come down

1515
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: court bouncing to himself. I was like, who is this guy?

1516
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 4: Bro?

1517
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: I never forget. I was like, man, whatever happened to him?

1518
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: I never heard anything after that. He went to like

1519
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: West Virginia or something and then just vanished.

1520
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: You didn't hear.

1521
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: Nothing of him. But he was like a walking bucket,

1522
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: like nobody can guard.

1523
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 6: I remember Luther Head in high school. Bro, that's he

1524
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 6: probably he probably my all time favorite high.

1525
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: School Luthor Head was he'll walk that boy between his

1526
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: legs and the ball was barely bouncing off the ground down. Bro.

1527
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 6: I watched him do that. He would shoot the ball

1528
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 6: and turn around and run.

1529
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, I watch him. If if the NBA

1530
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: really would let Jamal, what would he really want to do?

1531
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 4: Y'all?

1532
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: Like, y'all, they don't even understand even start that's crazy,

1533
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: but how do you want to start?

1534
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: Pointing?

1535
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: And the crazy thing is with mall, Bro, he's been

1536
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: doing this, yeah, been doing that, uncle.

1537
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, just the first time I seen him, he doing

1538
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 6: the same, Tim Hardaway.

1539
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 4: There's the reason why my man toys a c l

1540
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 4: one of them times bro up at hoops because he

1541
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: was doing them so crazy. He did some dirty ship

1542
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: made him.

1543
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 6: You can ask Ma I got to that.

1544
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: I want to tell you Tim Hardaway is the reason

1545
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: why he tore a c the first time bro at hoops. Bro.

1546
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 6: I was remember, yeah, Bro, Like, MA was nast.

1547
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: Back there, Like, That's why I said he's been when

1548
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: I went to Renner Beach, Bro. I used to see

1549
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: him come down to court in high school.

1550
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 4: Come down here.

1551
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: Around, dude's head around his back, catch the ball, shooting,

1552
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 2: turn around, he's he's the walk down the court backwards.

1553
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 6: And then just turned and shoot.

1554
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 5: That.

1555
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: Couldn't believe it, Bro, Yeah, when I came around, like

1556
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: it was already a heavy era coming around with us.

1557
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: I got a chance to play with Brandon Roy, I

1558
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: got a chance to play with Martell Bailey, and all

1559
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Seattle started having this these groups of

1560
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: kids coming out being a real baller.

1561
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1562
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: Wesley, All, y'all, how did you feel about that? Seeing

1563
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: your periods, seeing people that you're coming up with, and

1564
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: so forth, on having so much successful, honestly, and before

1565
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: then you really you heard about guys, but you really

1566
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: didn't see as much. But like I said, y'all had

1567
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: an error of going contilling.

1568
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: I love it, man, Honestly. Doug Christy from Seattle went

1569
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: to high school too, so he was the first one

1570
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: to make it to the league from my high school.

1571
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: Doug Christie didn't. Went Jamal Crawford. Then with myself, Terrence

1572
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: Williams after t will Uh after t will went de

1573
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: Johntay Murray after John Ty Murray. Now we got Kevin

1574
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: Porter Junior, so out of one school, you know what

1575
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So just seeing guys like when we got

1576
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: guys like Doug Christie, you got Jamal Crport. Once we've

1577
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: seen that they had the blueprint and they knew they

1578
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: had the recipes to make it to the league, we

1579
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: feel like, if they can do it, we could do it.

1580
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: That's how I felt like, if they can make it

1581
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: to the league, and I play, I said, I know,

1582
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: I work just as hard as and even harder than them. God,

1583
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I know I can. I know I can make it.

1584
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: Then the next guy go, the next guy. Then you

1585
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 2: got different you know, places areas that are, you know,

1586
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 2: coming together be Roy Jason Terry went to Franklin. Aaron

1587
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: Brooks went to Franklin. Like these guys really in their balls?

1588
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: Who so for us, you know, we just competed. We

1589
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: used to open the gym and guys, you show up

1590
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: and we just played against each other all the time.

1591
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: And our open gyms was lit. Who installed your basketball game?

1592
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: And my dad, for sure, my mentality, my dog was.

1593
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: My dad was just like, bro, you're gonna outwork everybody.

1594
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: And for me, my dad just wanted to test me

1595
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: and see if I was gonna be a quitter. You

1596
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: know what I'm say. He would wake me at six

1597
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: o'clock and just do stuff, you know, just go, let's

1598
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: go work. And then I remember when I used to

1599
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: I used to. I grew up in Oakland in the

1600
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: summertime and my cousin Passion, who really taught me how

1601
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: to hoop and work hard. Her and my dad used

1602
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: to go work at this gym called bush Rod, so

1603
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: right in the hood in North Oakland. Shout out North Oakland.

1604
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: But uh, we used to go to the bush Rod

1605
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: outside and she used to be doing drills. He used

1606
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: to pass the ball and I used to be sitting

1607
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: there watching. I used to get the rebounds. She doing shit.

1608
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: I get the rebund I couldn't shoot ntil after I

1609
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: get the rebound on everything. I had to get the

1610
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: rebound passed to him. He said to pass. And I

1611
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: remember when I got to Seattle. I was like ten

1612
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 2: eleven years old. My dad coached me and after games

1613
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: he would make me run lines and I used to

1614
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: be crying, like, bro, like around, I'm looking around, like, bro,

1615
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: ain't nobody else doing this?

1616
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 6: Bro?

1617
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: Like that?

1618
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: Why I don't stop stop crying? Wipe her face? I

1619
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: wiped off face. You know what I'm saying, Do the

1620
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: lines run? And he was like, I'm showing you how

1621
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: to be a leader. Watch all your teammates gonna start

1622
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: doing this. And I'm like, all right, whatever, So I

1623
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: just nah. I was just doing whatever he told me.

1624
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: I just believed it, and he was, you, Nate the great,

1625
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: believe it. I'm telling you now. So I would get

1626
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: on the line and do it so more kids will

1627
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: start joining. By the end of the year, the whole

1628
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: team would do it. And we went undefeated and won

1629
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: the championship. Yup, and we was blasting kids and they

1630
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: were like and after the championship we won, we ran

1631
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: lines laughing and giggling and my dad was like, bro, see,

1632
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: look just showing you how to be a leader. So

1633
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: for me, I do the same thing to my kids.

1634
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: I make them do mysen play football. You don't stop

1635
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: running to the last dude, it's done. So I'm just

1636
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: trying to pay it forward to how my dad a

1637
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: little good way?

1638
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 4: And who installed your game? I think my pops. Man,

1639
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: he used to take me to this mental health place

1640
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: that was in Tenley Park. I get a chance to

1641
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 4: hoop with him. I used to only play on the trampoline,

1642
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 4: but then every now and then I get to hoop

1643
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 4: with him. And then when I got tall enough to

1644
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 4: dunk like, I would play with him and just and

1645
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 4: they would. They would step aside and let me dunk

1646
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 4: and stuff. And then eventually though, I think they pushed

1647
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 4: me towards AAU and I ain't really want to go.

1648
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I ain't trying. I want to spend

1649
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: my summers at the crib. What you mean I got traveled. No,

1650
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm not doing all of that. And they really was like, nah,

1651
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: you're doing that was the first time they was like, no,

1652
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna do it. And that was probably the best

1653
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: thing because then I started seeing other hoopers. I started

1654
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: falling in love with it. All my homies was hooping,

1655
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 4: like we just that's all we did all day long. Man,

1656
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 4: Just just because of that.

1657
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: They criticized Lebron James for how he celebrates for his

1658
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: kids playing basketball, like y'all have kids that.

1659
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: That's I like that you got Michael or was doing that.

1660
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: I would I would be stoked if I did something.

1661
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: Let me up, exactly, You're crazy. That's because that's me.

1662
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be like that with my kids.

1663
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 4: Making these kids lives, bro.

1664
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: Some of them get to see him, some of them

1665
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: watching and watching the Knuckleheads podcast.

1666
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 6: Please continue to do what you look what that man said, Like,

1667
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 6: like with you in particularly like with your two kids,

1668
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 6: how do you feel seeing them start to hoop play football,

1669
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 6: being you know, being out there on the tournament scene,

1670
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 6: going and playing in the Chris Paul events and you know,

1671
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 6: being really out there starting to like they getting to

1672
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 6: that point where okay, now it's starting to really shape up.

1673
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 4: It's not third fourth like seventh grade.

1674
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: I love it, honestly, Like I love the fact that

1675
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 2: they get to love something that I love, you know

1676
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, besides their mama, but other than that,

1677
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: like for real, Like I love the fact that they

1678
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: could share the same kind of love and passion and

1679
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: grit and all the stuff that I put into basketball

1680
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: that changed their life. Like basketball got y'all to live

1681
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: the way y'all living, you know what I'm saying, the

1682
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 2: hard work that I put in. Look, look what basketball

1683
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: is done for y'all. Now you got to pay the

1684
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: way for yourself and your kids. So I love the

1685
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: fact that they're doing it like all my kids. My

1686
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: daughter loves hoop now, like like it's lit. It's so

1687
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 2: much fun. And then to watch them actually enjoy and

1688
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: be happy having friends, getting to play, like my son

1689
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 2: getting to play against Lebron Jameson, Like he talks about that,

1690
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: like Dad, I can't wait, you know, summertime, come to

1691
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: get to play against Lebron Junior and Bronni Like he

1692
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: loves that, playing against all the kids in the nation. Yeah,

1693
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, now it's time to work, Like now

1694
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: it's time I.

1695
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 6: Sup salute and take my hat off to you being

1696
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 6: involved like you are, Like I see you know on

1697
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 6: Graham and all that you in there, you in the gym,

1698
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 6: got them at the stairs, got him work in the sand,

1699
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 6: trails running, showing them how to work and being that's

1700
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 6: dope because you who you are, you Nate the Gray,

1701
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 6: you the three time dunk champion, and you were smart.

1702
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 5: You show them this?

1703
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 4: Would it take?

1704
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 5: This?

1705
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 6: Would it take to overcome eyes to be oys? I

1706
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 6: ain't supposed to be what I was, what I am.

1707
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 6: I wasnt supposed accomplished what I accomplished, And like this

1708
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 6: how you do it?

1709
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 4: See?

1710
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: I just want them to appreciate my grind and my

1711
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: hustle for them, because my motivation changed, you know, when

1712
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: I made it to the league and seeing me having

1713
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: young and you know I had kids young, twenty years old,

1714
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: twenty one, you know, having my kids, So my motivation changed,

1715
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: it altered, it shifted. So I tell them, like, I

1716
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: may not be the world's perfect dad, and I may

1717
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: not teach you guys, some of the other stuff that

1718
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: other people may teach you, but one thing I will

1719
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: show you is how to work hard. And I'm not

1720
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna tell you. I'm gonna show you.

1721
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 2: So in the beginning, I would bring them to my

1722
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: workouts and they would be you know, their sleep and

1723
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, just watching. You know, I was like, Okay, this' cool.

1724
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: Just watch watch what I do before you wake up

1725
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: and go to school.

1726
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1727
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: Watch what I gotta do every day to grind, to

1728
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: be better than all the guys that are getting paid

1729
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: two hundred million, a hundred million dollars that I will cook.

1730
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Watch what I do. Watch

1731
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: how I grind every day. Son, Like, it don't change,

1732
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: even if I'm not playing in the league, it don't change.

1733
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: I do this because I love it. I love it

1734
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: for me, not for them, and not to be cool

1735
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: on Instagram. Forget Instagram and all that, but I do

1736
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: it for me. If this it was no Instagram social media,

1737
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: I would be doing this every single day because I

1738
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: love it. I love the work out. I love to

1739
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: be fit. I love to look the way I look

1740
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: like I will tell my shirt off. I would look

1741
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: better than my kids, Like I'm trying to look better

1742
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: than you forever if I can. You know what I'm saying.

1743
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: So I just want them to learn like yo, like

1744
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: my dad was really about that life. So I just

1745
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: want them to. I want to pay the way for

1746
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: them so they have the tools to teach their kids.

1747
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: For this.

1748
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: We were listening to your son and being the entertainment industry,

1749
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: sports and hip hop and sports and music is like

1750
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: hand in hand. Facts see your child make music and

1751
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: actually music that you can listen to and you like,

1752
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: like crazy, that's something you get out, like how you

1753
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: feel about seeing your blood your face, your face.

1754
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 4: Shout out for sure, Bro, Like it's crazy to me, Bro,

1755
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 4: because it came out of nowhere. You know, you want

1756
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: them to pick up that passion because I know what

1757
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 4: it was like for me as a kid coming up.

1758
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 4: They think it just happened, Like, Bro, that it didn't

1759
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 4: just happened. It was a lot of blood, sweat and

1760
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 4: tears and went into being able to get to that

1761
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 4: moment into the place where people still know who I am.

1762
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 4: They know who I am because of the work I

1763
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: put in, Bro, Like, I put some serious work in

1764
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: this league. So for him to pick up the music side,

1765
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 4: it's crazy, Bro. I think it's it's really dope because

1766
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 4: it came out of nowhere, super proud.

1767
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 6: And he got a chance.

1768
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many other rappers I'm like, you

1769
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: got to sound to keep it rolling.

1770
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 4: As long as he want to do something, bro, I'm

1771
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 4: gonna support it. What grades y'all was in when first time,

1772
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 4: both y'all thought, like I know you. Eighth grade was the.

1773
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: First one I thunk the tennis ball, and like a volleyball,

1774
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: I didn't my hands weren' big enough to guard to

1775
01:12:54,920 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: dunkle basketball. But my first like five three four, that's crazy.

1776
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: It looked crazy. Yeah, it looked crazy on the video

1777
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: game five, you know, eighth grade, like we launching the

1778
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 2: cfeteria and it was like, man, let's go hoop hoop,

1779
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: And I'm up there trying to done. There's a whole

1780
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: crowd of people, you know what I'm saying, like do

1781
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: it again, and I'm like, man, they barely, you know,

1782
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: barely getting it. But like that's when I fell in love.

1783
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 2: Like when I I figured out I get dunk, I

1784
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: was like, no more.

1785
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 6: I was probably sixth grade from crazy.

1786
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: But see I was like six eight though, six seven

1787
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, I was crazy. I was crazy. Yeah,

1788
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 4: I ain't done to seventh grade and that was just

1789
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 4: like a volleyball.

1790
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: That's when I first dum dump. Though my first game

1791
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: up with my sophomore season.

1792
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: Did you ever in a million years I think that

1793
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 4: you would win the dunk contest?

1794
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 6: No, I wanted to.

1795
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: I dreamed like watching I dreamed it. I was just like, man,

1796
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: it could happen.

1797
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 6: Did you talk to the white before you? Yeah?

1798
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: I asked him in the elevator, like we was in

1799
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: the elevator going I think to do our like a

1800
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: press conference or whatever. And I was like, bro, so

1801
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: I whishpered doing because it was a heck of people

1802
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: in ELB. I was like, bro, I got an idea, Bro,

1803
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: what's up? He was like, yeah, what's up? I said,

1804
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: you should let me jump over you. And then he

1805
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 2: was like can you do it? I was like what, Like,

1806
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: come on, but don't insult my hops. I was like

1807
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: assaulting asking me that. Like I said, Bro, I jump

1808
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: over Jared Jefferies at practicing Eddie Cry all the time,

1809
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: just playing around like come on, bro, I got this

1810
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: And he was like, bro, I said, I got a

1811
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: cake for you and know all that you're gonna do

1812
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: a whole little Krypton. I gave him a whole little run.

1813
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: He was like yep, I said, well we're gonna make history. Bro, like,

1814
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: let's so he was like, yeah, I'm with it. I

1815
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: was like, say less and then it just happened. Who

1816
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: was the first person y'all dumped on? Man, I remember

1817
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 2: in the league? Was your first bob in the league.

1818
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: In the league, it was James. It was James supposed Yeah,

1819
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 2: well he kind of. I went like a chest to chest.

1820
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: I was coming down change in a pass the Channing

1821
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: fry Channing bounced past it back and I went up.

1822
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 6: To dunk it and he came from you in Miami.

1823
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to block it like and I just bang.

1824
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: I got got him, but I think Leon pol too.

1825
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: I got him on the tip done when that was

1826
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: what the knicks too many?

1827
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: I know you got bodies. You got a lot of

1828
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: too many. When the first person, first person, Bro, I

1829
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: don't know. First person I dunked on was pre season

1830
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: Jermaine on there, but he was.

1831
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: Remember that he don't my hand.

1832
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 4: I felt so good after the gap gave me. All

1833
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 4: your dunks was like highlight dunks, Like I just back

1834
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 4: somebody down and just punching on dunk was out like

1835
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 4: that because all yours was right to left. Yeah, Bro,

1836
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 4: you had a lot of memorable dunks. All mine was

1837
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 4: just you know, it's alright. So this is what I

1838
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 4: want to know. When you first felt like you got money,

1839
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: what you get?

1840
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 2: I can't really get nothing, man, I do. Man, I

1841
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 2: don't know if you're young.

1842
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 6: I had to.

1843
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: I had to go pay for all my mama bills

1844
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: off lay away, bro. All the stuff that was in

1845
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 2: our house paid off. I didn't even have no cheese left. Really,

1846
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: I buy me like a little hummer. I'm buying the

1847
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: biggest truck. Yeah, I want the biggest, the biggest truck

1848
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: out there. I'm getting it. I put it on twenty

1849
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: nine eight inch rims.

1850
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah.

1851
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't know what but that was.

1852
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: That was That was if you had two other players

1853
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: to pick to play with you, no matter who they

1854
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: is ever ever, who is the two other players that

1855
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: you want to play in your big three? Michael Jordan's

1856
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: and it can be will it can be sacked? Who

1857
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: was the other two players? Who was the other two

1858
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: player that you want to play with to make your

1859
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: big three.

1860
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to Jamal Crawford because I think it'll be

1861
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 4: a walking just be a show. It'll be a show. Bro,

1862
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: He'll get all fifty points by himself. Be I swear

1863
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 4: to God, Bro he could Bro, I've seen it, he

1864
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 4: could do it. It be him and Ship anybody else,

1865
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 4: I think in that type of situation, one on one, bro,

1866
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 4: come on, man.

1867
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: If I could build my let me see if I

1868
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: can build my team. I'm definitely going with shock DS.

1869
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: I need sho.

1870
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: I need to shock. I need to shock this. Yeah,

1871
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 2: I need to know. Yeah Laker or Orlando Shack. I

1872
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: like Orlando Shack too. I mean you know, I'm a

1873
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: big fan of Shaq. I definitely need a Kobe with

1874
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: the eight. I need a Kobe. I like a Kobe

1875
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 2: more than twenty four Kobe. I'm just it's just my preference.

1876
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: I like a Kobe uh coy like Kobe with the fro. Yeah,

1877
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: Kobe with the frow. And then Jordan for sure. That's

1878
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: my that's my starting that's my starting three.

1879
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 4: That's it.

1880
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 6: That's what i'maying.

1881
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: Only two people.

1882
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: I'm on the bitch man, I'll come off the bitch.

1883
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 4: I'm good.

1884
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 2: I want to watch them.

1885
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 4: Come on.

1886
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 5: I'm taking m j k D and Shaq and then

1887
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 5: so Katie and is over.

1888
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 4: It's over. I'm sorry, I see I see Jamal go

1889
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 4: crazy on all of the above, on all of the

1890
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you hoops broues in the summertime,

1891
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 4: not this same three this Saint five on five.

1892
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 5: I get it.

1893
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 6: And he gotta guard them too, for sure, you gotta

1894
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 6: guard them to Shane said match, did you gotta guard

1895
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 6: you got a new show house guest?

1896
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, House guests man.

1897
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: When I was coming soon. When I was younger, we

1898
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: used to watch MTV cribs. Yours is like the future

1899
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: version of that. To me, it's like so upgraded and

1900
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: a whole other level. Tell me, how does it feel

1901
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: to have a show of your own and to have

1902
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: a shoulder to go to people that you admire and

1903
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: you you respect so much, to go in and just

1904
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: have a conversation in their homes honestly cold?

1905
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's like the coolest, you know,

1906
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: coolest thing ever. I tell my cast and my people

1907
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: from the house guests, I tell them, thank you. I

1908
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: was a big fan of Tony Hawk as a kid,

1909
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: and he made it cool to skateboard. To be able

1910
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: to learn how to skateboard from the gold Tony Hawk

1911
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: to me was a treat, like I was like, Yo,

1912
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: that's off the bucket list. That's something I wasn't even thinking,

1913
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But to meet him for

1914
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: the first time ever on the show, on our show

1915
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: that we're doing, I was like, man, come on, and

1916
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: then get to meet Rick Ross for the first time ever,

1917
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like Rose wanted, you know

1918
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, dope rapper, I get to make Carry Walsh,

1919
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 2: you know, volleyball sensation like some of people, Von Miller,

1920
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: so many different people. Man, it was so lit. The

1921
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: fact that I was mad that it was over, I'm like, damn,

1922
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: we should have been This was fifteen episodes, got season two,

1923
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: so do that?

1924
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 6: Who brought that under? Oh yeah the player tribute man?

1925
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: You know what it is? Shout up, you know what

1926
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yeah, players tribute shots, pays tribute man. You

1927
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 2: know we got merged everything. Man, y'all go support shop.

1928
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: Let me just say though, for real, it couldn't have

1929
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 4: been no more of a perfect person for that house.

1930
01:19:59,439 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 5: Guys, Like.

1931
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 6: Like when I first saw it, I'm like, he ain't

1932
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 6: doing nothing different and he was doing my house and

1933
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 6: want to see what you got?

1934
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: You ain't this man, this house huge.

1935
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: But when I know for real, let me tell you

1936
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: all the story. But Q had the biggest house I

1937
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: ever seen in my own two eyes in New York City.

1938
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 6: So listen.

1939
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: So when he said, Nick, yeah, come over and see

1940
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 2: my crib, I'm like, all right, cool, I thought, you know, I.

1941
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 4: Look at the crime.

1942
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, how many rooms in here? But you

1943
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: would get lost in the house. I'm like, bro, this

1944
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: is the biggest house I've ever seen. On two wives,

1945
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: Like it was crazy, Like it was lick and you know,

1946
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: big broways, you got a room whenever you need one. Bro,

1947
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 2: It's cool, like he always showed love. So for me

1948
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: being the younger guy looking up to these guys, but

1949
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: it just it was just cool. I'm right then, these

1950
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: are the big brus I never had because I'm the oldest,

1951
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying to nine, And to have

1952
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: these guys be my bros and like to show love

1953
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying, to be able to

1954
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: to see them outside of basketball, for me, it was

1955
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: a treat, you know what I'm saying. And these have

1956
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: been my bros for what almost twenty years fifteen twenty

1957
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,520
Speaker 2: years now, Man, it's been crazy.

1958
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: So man must success on the on the show like

1959
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: we love it. I'm glad that we're part of the

1960
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: Players Tribute Team. Glad that you're part of the Players

1961
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: Tribute Team. They do it right, Bro, they do it

1962
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 1: for the players.

1963
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1964
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1965
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: They make it real easy for you to just go

1966
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: out and do what you love.

1967
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1968
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: And it's and it's fun Man, to get to be

1969
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: able to just you know, you know, pick the brain

1970
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: of some of the goats and around the world that

1971
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: you know people look up to.

1972
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1973
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot.

1974
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: Man, We got a whole long list.

1975
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: I made a long list.

1976
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: I made a long list of guests that I wanted

1977
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 2: to come to my house.

1978
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: You don't want to do that Red Man version of

1979
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: the MTV Cribs on your house.

1980
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: He's one of one of my one of my it's

1981
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: one of my homies that.

1982
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 7: I remember the episode Red Man. He took him to

1983
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 7: the theod we had the money, I.

1984
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 6: Still had to shoot box. Yeah all right, and we

1985
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 6: want to wrap it up Man. We definitely definitely own

1986
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 6: location here in Shottown. You feel me. We got my

1987
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 6: Man's this family big at it appreciated each city in

1988
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 6: the building. Nate rob coming out with us, rocking with

1989
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 6: the knuckleheads. Man, we back live, we back out here,

1990
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 6: and this year we come bearing gifts for the yeats.

1991
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. We got some little Hennessy

1992
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 6: privilege V S O B. Very special with the y'all

1993
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 6: got zoom in on that.

1994
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 4: We got the knuckleheads on the back of the boys.

1995
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: Got their own money, They got their own they got

1996
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: their own money, their own.

1997
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1998
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1999
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 6: We appreciate they coming through with the merch town. He

2000
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 6: got the hoodie and you feel me. That was Draft Day,

2001
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 6: a moment in time. You feel good.

2002
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 4: M H.

2003
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