1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. We are one week away from the twenty 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft in Las Vegas and Money, I 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: tell you, we're spoiled having DJ around us all during 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the regular season. One of the best draft minds there 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: is this guy too, the fresh off the Beast, Dane 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Brugler of the Athletic. Dane's gonna be joining us on 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: the podcast over the next few weeks of getting you 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: ready and then also recapping the draft. Dane, I've done 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: these crossfire series with you. They've been a lot of fun. 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: I know fans have really enjoyed them. And we're excited 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: to welcome me into the podcast and have you answered 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: some questions from the fans and for me and Money? Oh, 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait. This is gonna be a lot of fun. 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: This is a draft where there's plenty of storylines, plenty 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: of players and Pro Bowlers are gonna come out of 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: this draft. You know, let's let's let's figure out who 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be and let's get them on 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Yeah. You know, Dany's interesting because we did 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: this I think it was last week. Chris or maybe 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: it's two weeks ago. And we did this last year 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: when we talked about how many quarterbacks have to be 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: drafted for this pool of what we think are blue 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: chips to slide to number thirteen, And we just did 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: this last week and it's you know, we figure four 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers, three corners, there's four tackles, and we're trying 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: to figure out what is it two quarterbacks? Is do 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: you think quarterbacks are going to be drafted before seventeen? 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: Talking to you know, like you know, my buddy start 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: the league, and they all say the same thing, these 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: guys are gonna go. But no one can give me 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: a definitive answer in terms of where that's going to start. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: You know, that's the big question. Carolina at six and 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta eight, Seattle nine. Do we see it's a team 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: like the Steelers instead of just staying pad at twenty, 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: go up to get their guy. You know, we've seen 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: it in the past. You know, they will be aggressive 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: for the right player, whether that's Troy Paulamalu or Devin Bush. 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: They will be aggressive to get their guy in the 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: first round. But so I think these guys go. But yeah, 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: it's it's just hard to nail down where those exact 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: spots are gonna go, what teams, and then what ordered 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks come off the board? Is it Kenny Pickett? 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Is it Malik Willis? So there's still plenty that we're 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. Last year, five quarterbacks in the 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: top fifteen, we knew quarterbacks are going one, two, three. 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: We knew Justin Fields wasn't have to wait too much 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: longer after that, and then Mac Jones. So but this 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: year a lot more intrigue with the quarterbacks. This is 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback class that's easy to like, hard to love, 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: but we know quarterback despirations a real thing as well. 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: So I do think what it's all said and done, 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: we will have two quarterbacks come off the board before 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: pick seventeen. And that's that's good news for the Chargers. 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Is you know, Dan? You know, we get this participant 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: list of guys who are attending the draft. I see 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Mac corral, I see that we were talking about McDuffie 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: from Washington, Kyla Gordon from Washington's gonna be there. What 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: are you hearing about the first round? Because I feel 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: like this has been a year in which nobody really 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: knows the order, and obviously every team's gonna have their 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: board and their particular preferences. But the fact that I 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: am I reading too much into the fact that Matt 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Carroll is going to be there and maybe a first 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: round pick or Kyler Gordon's going to be there, and 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: I just I don't really know what to expect in 67 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: this first round. Yeah, you know what we've seen players, uh, 68 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, not go to the draft to tend to 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: draft and then not get selected until Day two. Um, 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: so that that is happy before they go back to 71 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: the hotel room, come back on Friday, uh, you know, 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: hopefully have two changes of clothes, two suits, that kind 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: of thing. But you know, ideally, yeah, I mean, the 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: NFL tries to invite players and they believe will be 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: first round players. Um. Now they've invited players that turn 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: down their offer, which you know we've seen before. Guys 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: want to be with their families, they want to be 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: at home in a comfortable setting. That's that's great, That's 79 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: this is their day. You know, they should do as 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: comfortable for them. So I don't I wouldn't read too 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: much into who's not there. But it is interesting to 82 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: your point about some of the names that will be there, 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, Matt Correll definitely being one of them. I think, 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, just a lot of people think Kenny Pickett, 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, Desmond Ritter probably the three quarterbacks with the 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: best chance to be first round picks. Maybe mac Carell 87 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: gets in there. Mc Correll's really interesting. He has such 88 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: a he reminds me kind of like a shortstop in baseball, 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: a point guard and basketball. Everything he does is quick. 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: His feet, his release, his eyes now sometimes too quick. 91 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean he played in an offensive Old Miss where 92 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: everything was designed for him. It was you know, he 93 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: knew where he was going pre snap based off the read, 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: so that post snap processing. That's a big question for 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Matt Correll. But I can see why in an NFL 96 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: team would be able to talk themselves into Corral being 97 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: an igniter for their offense. You know, the teams want quarterbacks. 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to put points on the board. 99 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Matt Correll did that at the college level. He has 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: the type of skill set to be able to do 101 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: that the NFL level, even if there's some projection involved 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: with his evaluation. You know what else is quick. His 103 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: punch to the face of a hockey legend son. That's 104 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: what else is quick from accral he mentioned he mentioned 105 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon. I'm gonna go with the two Washington defensive backs. 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: As people know on this podcast, I am. I am 107 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: incredibly biased, especially toward high school studs in southern California. 108 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I love high school football more than anything, and especially 109 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: when they advance and become great players that end up 110 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. McDuffie on the other side of him, 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: it seems like this is your high character leader of 112 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: the defense, everything you would want, but the measurables aren't there. 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: How big of a deal is that and what kind 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: of slide might that? Because it feels like this is 115 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: one of the cleanest prospects and someone people are really 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: excited about, but then you look at the measurables and 117 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: you wonder if he could slide. That's totally fair, and 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: this sounds hyperbolic, but Trent McDuffie might be the most 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: impressive cornerback that I have ever talked to in doing 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: doing this the last dozen years before the draft. I mean, 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: he is so smart, so sharp, I mean I would 122 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: throw I had a good sit down with them and 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: we'll talk for over an hour, and I would throw 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: all these situations at him. You know, if the offense 125 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: is doing this, what are you doing? And he's i mean, 126 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: without even thinking about it, he knows exactly. Okay, well 127 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm running cover two, but then the other side's 128 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna switch to a cover four. You know we're going 129 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: bail from this. Look. He's so sharp and that Washington secondary, 130 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: we know they prepare their guys. It's no coincidence that 131 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: that program has produced so many defensive backs in the NFL, 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of that is because of the versatility. 133 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: They play man, they play zone. They prepare their guys 134 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: for NFL life, and Trip McDuffie definitely fits that. But 135 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: to your point, sub five eleven under thirty inch arms, 136 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: that is something that some teams will have their thresholds. 137 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: They don't want corners that are below six foot, they 138 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: don't want corners that are below thirty one thirty two 139 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: inch arm. That will be a problem. Now for other teams, 140 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: maybe it's not as much of a problem because they 141 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, really uh, they focused on the processing, They 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: focused on the speed, some of the athletic traits. Trump 143 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: mcduffinely definitely has those so some teams I don't think 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: trum McDuffie will be in consideration for them in the 145 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: top twenty. For other teams, I think he will. So, 146 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: but I think it is in the rebel possibility that 147 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: trum mcduffey could see a little bit of a slide, 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: possibly into the twenties because of the size concerns. You know, 149 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: let me follow up there, Christ because we talked about 150 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: this with a Sante right and we saw him playing 151 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: the outside and some of the issues he had tackling. 152 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, he had two concussions, both of them come 153 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: and trying to bring down big running backs. Is that 154 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: size a concern for mcduffier. No, he's thick. He seems 155 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: like he's a sound tackler as well. So is that 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: is that Is that a fair comparison or no? Is 157 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: that not the size concern for for McDuffie. You know, 158 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: just based off a tape, you saw the size concerns 159 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: more in coverage than you did in anything else. He's yeah, 160 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: like you said, he's an above average run defender. He's 161 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: really good at coming to balance, using you know, ideal 162 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: form with his technique to get his guy on the ground. So, 163 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: but I mean, you do worry about durability with smaller players. 164 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt. But I think with the size concerns, 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: it comes more with receivers being able to shield him 166 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: from the catch a little bit, you know, the lack 167 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: of inches. It'll show on jump balls where receivers are 168 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: able to high point and they're just not much that 169 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: mcduffee can do about it because he's just missing those 170 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, those extra two or three inches. So I 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: think it shows more in coverage than necessarily other parts 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: of his game. I was actually pleasantly surprised with what 173 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: he does in one support. I'd love to be a 174 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: fly on the wall listening to Brandon Staley and mcduffee 175 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: have a conversation about in playing cornerback and playing tea beats. 176 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: I think they're still talking. I'm gonna mix in some 177 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: fan questions, Dane Um. This is from rogue pan to 178 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: six one nine. Tom Tolesco has never traded back. Could 179 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: this be the year that change is? And you and 180 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I just talked about this. You know, they don't have 181 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: a second round pick. There's a lot of talent in 182 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: the like the meat of this draft doesn't make sense 183 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: for the chargers to maybe drop out of seventeen and 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: pick up another selection or too. I think you can 185 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: make the argument that that's that's something they should look 186 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: and very strongly consider without having that second round pick. 187 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Being able to recoup that that second round or would 188 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: be would be big. And I think a lot of 189 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: it depends on you know, you're not making this move now. 190 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Obviously you're not making it before the picks start, but 191 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: as you know, you see the first sixteen picks play out. 192 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you say they're targeting Trevor Penning for example, 193 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: or say they want to write tackle, but four tackles 194 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: come off the board in the first fifteen picks, all 195 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, maybe you're a little more open to 196 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: moving back because you know, maybe you're at that point 197 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: you want to target a wide receiver or a corner 198 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: and you feel good about the wide receivers and corners 199 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: that will be available at twenty five twenty six wherever 200 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: you're moving back to. So I think a big part 201 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: of this conversation, uh, it really depends on who's going 202 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: to be there at picks number seventeen for you, But 203 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: it's you keep the phone lines open. I know, this 204 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: is it's it would be out of character for this 205 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: team to trade back, but to a chance to get 206 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: back into that second round, get another day to pick. 207 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: That has to be awfull the appealing for a team 208 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: that uh, you know could use more starters, because that's, 209 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: like you said, the meat of this draft is going 210 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: to be that late first, second, third round. A lot 211 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: of future starters are coming out of that that range 212 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: and to have another bite at the apple that that's 213 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: that's af the appealing. What's happening with Stingley Dan teams 214 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: as early as the Texans at three are doing a 215 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of work on him. Um, it's it's kind of 216 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: gone full circle with Derek Stingland. Um. I still think 217 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: there's a good chance he ends up top ten if 218 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he gets past Vikings at twelve, which 219 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: that might actually be the best landing spot for him. 220 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: I had one, uh somebody with LSU kind of tell 221 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: me how the chance to land with a like a 222 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: big brother like Patrick Peterson in Minnesota would be the 223 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: ideal scenario for Derek Stingley because he's not really an alpha, 224 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: that's not really his personality. But you know, so to 225 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: go into a locker room as a first round pick, 226 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: as you know, being looked at as the top corner 227 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: that'd be that'd be tough for him. But to go 228 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: to a place like Minnesota that has that set up 229 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: with the cornerbacks, that would be the ideal spot for him. 230 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: But Texans at three, the Seahawks at nine. There are 231 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: several teams interested in Derek Stingley and what he can 232 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: bring to their defense. We were dreaming two weeks ago 233 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: about him following the seventeen, and that dreams over. A 234 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: lot of those dreams have have ended by the way, Dame. 235 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: We talked about Jordan Davis dropping his seventeen, he talked 236 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: about Jamison Williams dropping his seventeen. Then it was it 237 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: was Stingley, Like all of these dreams we've had in 238 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: the last two months are now gone. Hey, somebody's got 239 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: a drop right at all? I mean it's, uh, you 240 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: never know Jamison Williams and the ACL you never know 241 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: with that, And this is a really it's a loaded 242 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver class. That's a top heavy wide receiver class. 243 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: And so if team have similar grades on Jamison Williams 244 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: and say Crystal Lava or you know, Garrett Wilson. Do 245 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: they opt for the player they know is healthy and 246 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about, you know, not being 247 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: there for training camp and you know, maybe some question 248 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: marks about when you're gonna be full health and so 249 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: you never know with the guy like Jamison Williams coming 250 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: off the injury, Jordan Jordan Davis. Yeah, we just got 251 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: talking about this, but not every team is going to 252 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: be super excited to take a nose tackle that is 253 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: not approven, that not a proven player in terms of 254 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: getting giving you pass rushed U. Not every team's gonna 255 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: be on board with that. So I do think the 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: odds are they will go in the top sixteen picks. 257 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: But you know, somebody's got a fall on. So I 258 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: that's that's the fun of the draft. We just don't 259 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: know how it's gonna play out. You know, go ahead. 260 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Chris, just because before we move on from 261 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: that with Davis, because so much of it is scheme dependent, right, 262 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: Like it seems like why and Davis are mentioned together. 263 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Of course they played on the same defense at Georgia, 264 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: but uh, for for our listeners, they don't quite follow along. 265 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh well, it's not just the player, it's the scheme 266 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: and the scheme fit is why it a better fit 267 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: for Brandon Staley's defense and the kind of tackles that 268 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: he likes than Davis. You could make that argument sure 269 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: with whyat you're getting more of an upfield penetrator, a 270 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: guy that you know you're going to line up over 271 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: the gap and with that quickness, that motor that he 272 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: plays with is going to give you a little bit 273 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: more destruction. And why it I think kind of like Davis. 274 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he really didn't get a chance to let 275 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: loose in that scheme and how he was used in 276 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Dan Landing's a three fourth scheme that they ran at Georgia. 277 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: But with Brandon Staley, I think that he had more 278 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: opportunities where not only is he going to help your 279 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: pass rushers with Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, but he's 280 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: going to be able to provide some of that interior 281 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: disruption as well. So I think that'd be a natural fit. 282 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: But you know, George Davis, what he brings you in 283 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: the run game is certainly appealing him. He has a 284 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: chance to be a really dominant run defender, and I mean, 285 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: pounds for pound, maybe the best athlete in this draft. 286 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't see three hundred forty pounders 287 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: moving that. My biggest question with Jordan Davis is just 288 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: when the snap count goes up, could he sustain that 289 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: level of energy that that athleticism and he averaged twenty 290 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: five defensive snaps a game last season at Georgia. They 291 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, really both linebackers front their defensive line. They 292 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: rotated these guys in on a regular basis. And if 293 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you have the guys, that's a smart just to keep 294 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: these guys fresh. But if you're drafting at Jordan Davis 295 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: in the top twenty, you're gonna expect him to play 296 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: thirty five forty snaps a game. And so when that 297 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: snap count goes up, could Jordan Davis still sustain that 298 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: level of energy that That's kind of where my biggest 299 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: question comes in with him. Next question, Jay West ten 300 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: seventeen and Money and I have talked about the running 301 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: back position a lot over the last couple of months. 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: Are we getting a backup running back somewhere in the 303 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: draft with a big eye Tomoji with tears in his eyes, 304 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: So I Jay West needs a needs a running back 305 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: behind Austin Ekeler, and we've talked about Austin fifteen to 306 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: eighteen touches keeping him fresh. Is there a running back 307 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: that you see in this draft that may be a 308 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: good fit for this offense. I think there's several. And 309 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: we're going to see a couple running backs go round 310 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: two or you know, top sixty with Brees Haul, Kenneth Walker, 311 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller will probably fit somewhere in the third round. 312 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: But for the most part, the sweet spot for running 313 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: backs in this draft is going to be the fourth, fifth, 314 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: sixth round. We're gonna see a ton of these guys 315 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: fly off the board, and I think it depends on 316 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: what direction the Chargers want to go. Do they want 317 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: to go with a player that's similar to an Austin Neckler, 318 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: where you know he's gonna you can trust them out 319 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: of the backfield in terms of his hands and running routes. 320 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Or do they want more of a compliment, more of 321 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: a power element, a guy that's going to be a 322 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: bruiser between the tackles, because this draft has both, you know, 323 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: if they want more of that interior presence, a guy 324 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: like Damian Pierce from Florida five nine and a half 325 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: two hundred twenty pounds, runs with tremendous energy, lowers his pads, 326 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: and he's just a violent runner and he does not 327 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: apologies for it. And you also love how dependable he is. 328 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't fumble, he doesn't drop passes. He's reliable and pass protection. 329 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: So Damian Pierce is a player that I think will 330 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: be a better pro than college player. What we saw 331 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: at Florida. Brian Robbins from Alabama can fit that mold. 332 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Six one and a half two hundred and twenty five pounds. Uh. 333 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, he had a chance to be the guy 334 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: at Alabama. He did not let that opportunity go to waste. 335 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: He had over thirteen hundred yards this past season, a 336 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: lot of it based off of what he could do, 337 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: more of a one cut, one cut and go type 338 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: of runner. But remember me, a lot of Latavious Murray, 339 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, who's a running back in the league for 340 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: a lot of years. So I think this draft, if 341 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: they want to get that compliment, there are plenty of 342 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: options on Day three that would make sense. Let me 343 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: let me throw on at you here, Dane. I'm no 344 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, I'm no Daniel Jeremiah, your podcast husband, we 345 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: share a spouse. In the world of the draft with 346 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: landzer Line, I have not heard a lot. So I'm 347 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: not you guys, Okay, I'm just I'm just a dude 348 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: watching watching tape from time to time and out like 349 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: saying that it makes me feel special. But Abram Smith 350 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: jumped out at me. Yeah, I don't know why. I 351 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: feel like he's he gets skinny. I love it. He 352 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: has explosiveness. It feels like he really punishes defenders that 353 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: try to tack and I I'll plead ignorance. I don't 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: really remember him from Baylor games at all. What can 355 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: you tell me about him? Are my eyes deceiving me? 356 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: Or is there something electric about Abram Smith? You got 357 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: a good eye? No, I tell you what Abram Smith he's. 358 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: I think he's a top ten running back in this class. Uh. 359 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: He's he had over sixteen hundred yards last year. Uh, 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: and just an outstanding story. He's played linebacker at Baylor 361 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: before he got his chance at running back and didn't 362 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't let it put a waste. He's he's a little upright. 363 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: You do you wish there's some you know better pad level, 364 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: But I do agree with you in terms of getting 365 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: skinny and getting through gaps. Uh. You know, he he's 366 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: a guy that has patience. Uh, He's it's a fine 367 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: line being patient, but yeah, being decisive. I think he 368 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: walks it really well. Um he's tailor made for the 369 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: zone offense outside split zone, that's what that's what he 370 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: does best. Um. And I think the additional thing with 371 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: him two things. One year starter, which usually when we 372 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: talk about a one year starter it might not be 373 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: a positive, but with a running back it is a positive. 374 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: It means that, you know, only two hundred and sixty 375 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: nine carries in his career in college, so plenty of 376 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: tread left on a tire. And then uh, secondly, played 377 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of special teams, so you know, if you're 378 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: a backup running back in the league, be ready to 379 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: stand out on special teams because that's going to be 380 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: your ticket to staying on a roster. And you know, 381 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: being a heavy contributor. Abramsmith did that quite a bit. 382 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: So I think the special teams being a performer four 383 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: teams special, four cores, special teamer, but then also what 384 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: he can do an offense, uh, and give you a 385 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: little bit of extra juice that that makes a ton 386 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: of sense. George and Clippett money this one for Saturday 387 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: till they take my punter in the seventh. My god, 388 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: the victory lap, I'm gonna do. D Jay Gilletto Three, 389 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: ass Which position group do you feel would have the 390 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: greatest impact on this year's team? So I guess what 391 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: position group is the strongest that could make an impact 392 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: on the Chargers in twenty twenty two as they look 393 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: to make a playoff run. Well, I mean, I think 394 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: the strongest position in the drafts edge rusher. There's no 395 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: doubt about it. But you know, obviously I think with 396 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: you know the addition they made with kill little Mack 397 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: and you know Joey Bosa we know is not going anywhere, 398 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: so you know, edg rusher, I'm not sure necessarily a 399 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: position they're going to attack early. But after edge rusher, 400 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at you know, wide receiver, corner 401 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: even tackle to a lesser extent, and we know they 402 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: could go you know, one of those three positions, No doubt, 403 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver is a little top heavy where we're gonna 404 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: see these guys fly off the board in the first round. Uh. 405 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Six wide receivers maybe seven. Uh, They're they're gonna go. 406 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: And you know, part of it is some of the 407 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: contracts being handed out in the NFL right now. Uh it, 408 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: teams want to get younger, they want to get cheaper 409 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: at a position where wide receiver is now the second 410 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: most expensive position in the NFL, just behind quarterback, and 411 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: so a chance to And it's funny because you look 412 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: at the hit rate on first round wide receivers, it's 413 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: not great. I mean, obviously some stars come out of 414 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: the first round receiver, but it's not it's not the 415 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: hit rate that necessarily want. That's not going to stop 416 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: teams from from taking swings in the first round. So 417 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna go early. Um. And now I 418 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: still think there will be receivers in the third round 419 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: if they want to go that direction. If you know 420 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: Calvin Austin from Memphis or Khalil Shaker from UH from 421 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: Vista Marietta High School, that yeah, exactly. So I mean 422 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: I think that this draft wide receivers it's a little 423 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: top heavy. They're gonna go early, but there still should 424 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: be some some viable options in round three if they 425 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: want to go that direction. And then I think there 426 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: is a drop off once you get to Day three, 427 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, with the fourth fifth round. But there are 428 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: a few receivers in that range that could make sense. 429 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: A Bayliss Jones from Tennessee. Danny Gray from SMU one 430 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: of my favorite mid round receivers this year. He could 431 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: be this year's version of say like a Darnell Mooney, 432 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: who you know has grown into a starter in Chicago 433 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: for the Bears. So the wide receiver position. Every year, 434 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: it seems like we're talking about receivers as being a 435 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: strong position. This year's no different. Hey, let me just 436 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: interject real quick because we have a ton of questions, 437 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: and this one is from John malloy. Are we taking 438 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: a receiver round one we've talked about seventeen? Is it 439 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: a luxury pick? Is it a pick that could put 440 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: you over the top because you have Mike Williams and 441 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and Austin Eckler coming out of the backfield 442 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: Gerald ever to tight end maybe that speedster type. You know, 443 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: we don't know if Jamison Williams will be there, but 444 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: a guy like Williams or a lave if they're there 445 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: at seventeen, is that you know something that you seriously consider. 446 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans will line up. Okay, 447 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: these are the top five needs. Okay, first five rounds 448 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: need to go in order. You know, top needs, first round, 449 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: second needs, second round. I mean it just that's not 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: how NFL teams operate. The first round it needs to go. 451 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: It needs to be reserved for the player that's going 452 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: to best impact your roster. So if that ends up 453 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: being a receiver, a speed element, a guy that's going 454 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: to help stretch out the defense, then absolutely why not. 455 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: So yes, a little bit of a luxury pick when 456 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: you have talent at the position already, but a chance 457 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: to add another weapon for your your young quarterback, a 458 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: chance to make your offense even that more explosive. Why 459 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: is that a bad thing? And so I think as 460 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers look at their options, looking at a right tackle, 461 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: looking at a corner, you know, looking at potential trade opportunities, 462 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver that's going to be right there in the mix, 463 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting when we see that first receiver come 464 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: off the board, who's left for them? If Jamison Williams 465 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: is there, I love that fit. I think that'd be 466 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of fun justin the Jamison I mean it'd 467 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: be it'd be fireworks, So because of the ACL you'd 468 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: never know if he's not there. Chrisal Love that's another 469 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: fit that I think would make sense. Chris Alave is 470 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: NFL ready. I mean, he is helping you tomorrow. He's 471 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: the senior of the group, really polished route runner. The 472 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: one thing that I dislike about chrisa Lave is he's 473 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: not going to give you much after the catch. He's 474 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: not a yack type of guy. He's not gonna break tackles. 475 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: There's not really a level of physicality with him. But 476 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: he's still a player that gets open and he can 477 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: win deep. And so you can do a lot with 478 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: a player like chrisa Lave that can line up up 479 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: and down the formation inside, outside and really give your 480 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: offensive options. You know, you you mentioned the names, and 481 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: obviously Shaquier's one that that I followed. He followed back 482 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Meyer up to Boise State. That connection always fun to 483 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: see that with quarterback and receiver. But like George Pickens 484 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: is another one that's mentioned. Because he's been hurt, is 485 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: he gonna slide? So let's just say the Chargers pass 486 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: on wide receive in the first round. They don't have 487 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: a second and it's that third round group. It's the 488 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: same round they picked Joshua Palmer in last year. And 489 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, it seemed like when they made the selection, 490 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: it was fifty fifty how people felt about him. But 491 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: we love them. I mean watching him in the preseason 492 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: when he got his opportunities, he really shined. Are these 493 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: receivers that they might get, like the third, fourth, fifth round, Dane, 494 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: are they as good as josh Palmerker is like to me, 495 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: it's if you're going to upgrade that position, they got 496 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: to be better than josh you know, they they've got 497 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: to be out. They've got to take that starting position 498 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: from him and make him a rotational receiver. Yeah. I 499 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: think it's an excellent point, and I think that that 500 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: will factor into the decision making. I don't think that 501 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: the Chargers are necessarily going into this draft saying, Okay, 502 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: we got to get a receiver. We got you know, 503 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: we have to use one of those early picks on 504 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: a wide out. I think it's if a wide receiver 505 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: in the first round makes sense because of the way 506 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: he can impact their offense, then you know, let's make 507 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: it happen. And the same thing will be true in 508 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: the third round. If the right fit is there in 509 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: terms of what fits this offense. UM, And I don't 510 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: I don't know that it comes down to better or 511 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: worse than Palmer, but you know, how how does he 512 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: compliment the offense? Um? And so you know, you're getting 513 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: all these guys on the field and letting them contribute. 514 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that at seven. It's seventy nine 515 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: in the third round, So you know, we're you know, 516 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: it's seventy eight players off the board. There's a lot 517 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: of gonna be a lot of good receivers in that mix. 518 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: There's a good chance that you're not feeling uh great 519 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: about the receivers at seventy nine in terms of them 520 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: being a better option than Palmer, who you drafted in 521 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: the in the third round last year. Dan, I'm curious 522 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: because I don't think we've talked a lot about the 523 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: tight end position in this draft on the pod. And 524 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, I know that the Charges got Jerald Everett. 525 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I think Gerald's on a one year deal of money, right, Yeah. Yeah, 526 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: So you have Donald Palm, you have Everett. Um, you 527 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: have Trey McKitty who you drafted last year. Um, what 528 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: about guys like Greg Dolcich, and you know some of 529 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: these other tight ends that yeah McBride, some of those 530 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: guys would probably go in the second round. Yeah, it's 531 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: a's a interesting tight end year because we probably don't 532 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: see a tight end in the first fifty picks, but 533 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: after that, between picks fifty one and one, twenty five 534 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: tight ends are going to fly off the board. You know, 535 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: the Trey McBride's Greg Dolsitch, Jeremy Rutcker, I'm a big 536 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: fan at Ohio State. I think he's going to be 537 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: a much better pro than he was in college. He's 538 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: been a little off the radar because of that foot 539 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: injury that he had the Senior Bowl, so no combine, 540 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: no Pro Day. But Jeremy Rutcker is he's a good athlete. 541 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: For a guy that's six five and a half to fifty, 542 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: catches the ball really really well. He's a He's actually 543 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: a big time soccer player, growing up a goalie, and 544 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: so he credits you know, his hands from being a 545 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: goalie all those years, his hand eye coordination and the 546 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: focus and things like that. So Jeremy Rutcker, you know, 547 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: just all you have to do is watch five five 548 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: players at Ohio State offense to understand why he wasn't 549 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: utilized more in the passing game. The wide receivers on 550 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: that team were just bananas and so Rutger, but he 551 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: was still in the field. You know, he's blocking, he's 552 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: running routes, and when he was targeted, good things happened. 553 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: So Jeremy Rutger, I think is going to end up 554 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: being a steal when he goes. You know, I think 555 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: if if the Chargers wanted him, they'd have to take 556 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: my seventy nine because I don't think he makes it 557 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: too much past that. But if they don't want to 558 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: use a top one hundred pick on a tight end, 559 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: they want to wait till the fourth round, fifth round, 560 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: this draft is still gonna have options. A guy like 561 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Kohler from Iowa State six six and a half 562 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: two fifty tested outstanding, even if you don't always see 563 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: that on the film. He's a guy that works really 564 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: well in contested windows. He's going to help you in 565 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: the red zone immediately. Daniel Bellinger from San Diego State, 566 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Native six five, two fifty another guy that 567 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of production just how he was 568 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: using the offense. But you feel like he could be 569 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: a better pro than he was used in college. And 570 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: then one of my favorite you know, quote unquote sleepers 571 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: are not really a sleeper because people know about him, 572 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: but maybe an underrated tight end. James Mitchell from Virginia 573 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Tech six four two fifty had a torn acl back 574 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: into September. So but as long as the doctors tell me, 575 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: hey that the needs looking great, you know it's gonna 576 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: be fully healthy here pretty soon for training camp. James 577 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Mitchell could absolutely end up being a steal if he 578 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: goes fourth, fifth round. Really athletic player can be a 579 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: three level passing threat for year offense, and I think 580 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: that that would be a really nice, you know, long 581 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: term plan if say, Gerald Everett's only here for one 582 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: more year. No, you're just kind of speaking of positions 583 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: that may slide down the board, how much like I 584 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: was listening to your colleague over the Athletic Robert Mais 585 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: does a great job as well, and he was talking 586 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: just about position groups and how we now value certain 587 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: position groups. And I know our colleague, you know, Daniel Jeremiah, 588 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: has been talking about it as well, and you mentioned 589 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: it with wide receivers with the contracts that are being 590 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: handed out. You rarely see tackles, you know, elite tackles 591 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: drafted outside of the first round. Have you noticed a 592 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: big difference with teams and how they're drafting and how 593 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: they're not. I mean, we've seen it with running backs, 594 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: but are we seeing it with safeties? Are we seeing 595 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: it with linebackers? Are we seeing a number of these 596 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: positions just being grabbed out of the first round and shoved, 597 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, behind it because it's it's either a not 598 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: a premium position, be you know, an exceptional one doesn't 599 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: necessarily make that big of a difference like a tackle 600 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: and edge a wide receiver something like that. Yeah, no doubt. 601 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: And you know, every year with the draft kind of 602 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: evolves a little bit in terms of how teams attack it, 603 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: and it tackles one of those positions, like you mentioned 604 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: that they go early. I mean the fact that we're 605 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: on Slater it felt to the thirteenth pick. It's still 606 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of little mind boggling. But because the guys, guys 607 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: that are that talented just usually don't last and people 608 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: thought overthought, you know, the lack of length with him, 609 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: But more often than not, it tackles that they're good 610 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: enough they're not making it to the second round. So 611 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: that's that's definitely one of those positions that you know, 612 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: the premium positions. I think you include edge rusher in 613 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: that group. Now edge rusher. This year, because it's such 614 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: a deep group, I think we will see some pretty 615 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: good edge rushers go on Day two. But usually if 616 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: you're you know, we saw it last year with a 617 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: run on those guys in the late first uh, you know, 618 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: the odafe O Way and Gregor Rousseau and the kid 619 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: at Tampa and the Sames draft that I mean, we 620 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: saw just a run on edge rushers because you know, 621 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: we know the value of that position. That'll be the 622 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: same thing this year, but a couple of positions that 623 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, do get pushed down a little bit. Safety. 624 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: We don't see a ton of safety's drafted top ten, 625 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: top twenty, top twenty five. Usually teams will wait get 626 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: those guys on Day two. Obviously, like you mentioned running back, 627 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: that that's something. So the position value is going to 628 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: be a little different from team to team, but we 629 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: were seeing more and more it's pretty obvious which positions 630 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: that team's value aside from the quarterback, that's obvious, but tackle, edge, rusher, corner, 631 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Those four positions are that that's what teams 632 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: are looking for. That that's those are the cornerstones, the 633 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: foundational positions, and we usually see those positions go early 634 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: on draft weekend. Yeah, bring it up, Dan, because we 635 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Chris posted a clip from this conversation we had last 636 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: week about Penning and what to do if he's there. 637 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people push back, that's 638 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: why would you draft that guy there? But does that 639 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: do you think that carries more value that when a 640 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: tackle starts sliding it is more valuable to say take 641 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: him instead of a wide receiver, instead of a different position, 642 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: because of look that the best tackles in the league 643 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: when you look historically, the overwhelming percentage of them are 644 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: taken in the first round. Draft is all about value, 645 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: and you know it's that you want to get proper 646 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: value for your picks. And I keep going back to 647 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 1: your pick needs to be what you think impacts your 648 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: team the most. And if that's a speed option, then 649 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: so be it. If that's going to be a right 650 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: tackle you feel is going to stabilize that offensive line, 651 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: then by all means, if you think that's going to 652 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: impact your offense in the biggest way. That should be 653 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: the move So a guy like Trevor Penning, I mean 654 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: we saw Rashawn's later followed the thirteenth pick last year, 655 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: So Trevor Penning falling to the seventeenth pick. I don't 656 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: think that's all that alarming, or you know, I don't 657 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: think we should be Why is he still there? You know? 658 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Any red flags? I mean, it's you could see it. 659 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: It's it's not every team's going to be on board 660 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: with an FCS player, even though I mean, going back 661 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: to last August, he was in my top top thirty 662 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: two players. So this is he's been on the NFL 663 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Raider for quite a long time and he goes to 664 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I thought he helped himself. You know, 665 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: you love the aggressive mentality, you love the size, the length, 666 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the movement skills. Is he still improving in some areas? 667 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: Does it need to be more consistent with his technique 668 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: and his footwork and especially his hands, and just in 669 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: terms of the placement, the connect rate and being a 670 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: better sustained guy at the point of attack. Yeah, it's 671 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: more of a consistency issue as opposed to something that 672 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: you really worry about his issues are coachable and you 673 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: feel like as he sees better, competition grows develops, it's 674 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: it's going to get better. So with Trevor Penning, I 675 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: really like that fit at seventeen. If he's available to 676 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: go offensive tackle back to back of years in the 677 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: first round, really help out your quarterback. And it goes 678 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: to your point, Dan, like, don't overthink it. You had 679 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: him in your top thirty two a year ago, right, So, 680 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: like he's been on the radar and he's a good 681 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: player and I think he would look great on the 682 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: other side of Reshaunse later. Another fan question, mister Wilson Obozo, 683 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: do you think that the media and fans view later 684 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: round draft picks less valuable than they actually are. It's 685 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: a good question because you know, we fall in love 686 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: with these bock drafts in the first round. You get 687 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: just as much of an impact in Day two and 688 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Day three picks. Yeah. And the Chargers they've they've got 689 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: plenty of Day three picks this year with four sevenths, 690 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: so you know it'll be interesting that they use some 691 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: of those to maybe move around a little bit if 692 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, try to move up a 693 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: few spots to get guarantee you get your guy, or 694 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: if they if they hold on to him and pick play. 695 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: You want to round out your roster, so you want 696 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: guys that are going to come in, compete, and then 697 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: draft like this where I think several positions. It stretches 698 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: to day three. Running back, tight end is anterior offensive line. 699 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: They will stretch to day three where you feel like 700 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: you're still getting guys that can be quality contributors. And 701 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,479 Speaker 1: obviously you're not drafting a player in the seventh round 702 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: thinking there to come in and be an immediate impact 703 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: guy or anything like that. But if you could find 704 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: someone that's gonna help you on special teams, find someone 705 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: that's gonna you know, push the starters and just be 706 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: a quality teammate, that's the goal at that point. Get 707 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: another fan question in there, Chris, I've been hogging the mic. No, 708 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: you're good, Let me all right, if you're scrambling. How 709 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: about this dame. When we talk about mid to late rounds, 710 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, Tom Talasco has done a pretty darn good job, 711 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: specifically a linebacker. Drew Tranquill I think is exceptional. We 712 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: saw what Kaiser White was able to do. I think 713 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: he was fourth rounder. So let's go lineback, um, and 714 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: see if we can we can get some some depth there. 715 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: Just some names that I have one in my brain 716 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna throw at you, but I'll see if 717 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned him him earlier. But just maybe some names 718 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: that might help replace Kaizier or or add some depth 719 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: to that to that group that that might be available 720 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: in that that third, fourth, fifth, seventh range. Yeah. I 721 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: really like this linebacker class. I think it stretches where 722 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel good about some of the options that 723 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: you have there. And we're gonna see plenty of these 724 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: guys go in the first two rounds. Guys like Leo 725 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: Chanal and Christian Harris and Troy Anderson and of Montana State. Um, 726 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: these guys who go early but late third fourth round. Uh, 727 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: you know a guy like Joejoe Doman from Nebraska. I 728 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: think he fits that that nickel linebacker, a guy that 729 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: can drop in coverage. Uh, just a really quality player 730 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: and you get him in the fourth round. I think 731 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: that'd be a pickup that makes sense for this roster 732 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: and this team what they want to do on defense. Um. 733 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: I really like Malcolm Rodriguez at of Oklahoma State guy. Dude, 734 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: that guy is incredible. I have never seen someone with 735 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: a nose for the ball. He is everywhere. Like blew 736 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: my mind when I watched that guy and he was 737 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: a dual threat quarterback in high school. He wasn't. This 738 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: isn't a guy who's been playing linebacker his entire life. 739 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean he was is a big time wrestler in 740 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: high school. Come out of Oklahoma. I always love a 741 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: good wrestler. You can go a two time state champion 742 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: right here. Uh. He had a thirty and three record 743 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: over his career in high school. But he goes to 744 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Uh, and they moved to linebacker, and yeah, 745 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: this guy was a big time player. I agree one 746 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: hundred percent with what you said about his nose for 747 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: the ball. I mean he's a very very instinctive right place, 748 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: right time. He reads run pass really really quickly, so 749 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean he understands play development better than a lot 750 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: of these linebackers that you see at the college level, 751 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: and he reacts really quickly. So coverage downhills as a 752 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: as a more of a run defender. He could do both. 753 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 1: Tested really well. He's a little undersized. You worry about 754 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: the lack of length in terms of taking on blocks 755 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 1: quickly stacking, shedding. You know a guy that's five eleven, 756 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: two thirty with just over thirty inch arms, but he 757 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: has speed, he has explosiveness, and he's a durable player. 758 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a productive player. Very he's proven himself, 759 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: so I like him quite a bit. I think he's 760 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that probably doesn't go to the 761 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: fourth round, but he's gonna stip Dave. We'll get you 762 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: out here and this this last question. We have you 763 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: next week and I'm sure fans are gonna be pouring 764 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: him in as we get ready for next Thursday ninety two, 765 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: get or done? Who do you think we should draft 766 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: best available or draft a need at seventeen? And you know, 767 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: Tom Twesk has always said we take the best player. 768 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if you could shed some more light 769 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: on drafting a need versus best available, because we know 770 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: there's a limit to that, right, Like if you like 771 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, you're not drafted Malik Willis. If you have 772 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert on your team. Yeah, right, it's kind of 773 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: like the best available within reason, you know, Like that's 774 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: the strategy to take and it's but you know, the 775 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: the charges are gonna have their own draft board there. 776 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: I just came out with my top three hundred on 777 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: the athletic but most team draft boards are one hundred 778 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: and twenty five, one hundred and fifty. They're not these 779 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: extensive draft boards that a lot of teams are or 780 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: that you know those are the outside are looking at 781 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: um and so I think their first round board it 782 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: will be set up but with need in mind. Uh, 783 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: you know, with their ideal targets, knowing who's gonna be there, 784 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: who has a chance to be there, and you know 785 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: you always care about need obviously, especially with the first 786 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: round pick, but you want a guy that can come 787 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: in and impact your team. But football is a game 788 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: of attrition as well. You know, it's something that it's 789 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: this is a five year commitment, not who's going to 790 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: help you right away. So it's something that you need 791 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: the short term and the long term in mind. And 792 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: above all, I keep going back to this, but you 793 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: want the guy that impacts your roster the most, and 794 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: that could be and you can make an argument for 795 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different directions, but who who's going to 796 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: help put points on the board wins the win column. 797 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: That's who you need to go after. And you know 798 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: opinions will differ. Could that be an offensive lineman, Could 799 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: it be a stud defender, Could that be a receiver? 800 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: But whoever you think is going the best impact of roster, 801 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: that needs to be the first front pick. I got 802 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: one more for him and it's a quick one. Dane 803 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: top four punters go, that's I'm gonna ask what matter? 804 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: Risa San Dieo state. You gotta start with him, right uh? 805 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: And then Jordan's stout at a Penn state, A big 806 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: fan of his. H Jake camarda out of Georgia. Hold on, 807 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: hold on, come on, let's get my guide for let's 808 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: get my guide for who's your guy is? I've got 809 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: I got Trton Gill myself at four? Who you living cross? 810 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: Is my guy? My guys? And also he's a lefty, 811 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: a lefty all see, Okay, what part of the country 812 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about here? Big ten oh Illinois? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah, 813 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: tall drink of water, giant directional six four two twenty five. Yeah, 814 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: he's a big boy. I knew it. How about the 815 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: kid by the way, how about the kid from modern day? 816 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: Is he gonna is he gonna make a team? U 817 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: Stonehouse from Colorado State. He's a local kid. Yeah, I 818 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: think that he's he's on the short list. I mean, 819 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: we'll see probably three of these guys get drafted and 820 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: then the next uh four or five six, you know, 821 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: have a good chance in camp. And he's part of 822 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: that next that second tier, that four or five six 823 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: that's got a real shot kid gonna get drafted ahead 824 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: of Riza. Sorry, Chris, I don't. I don't think so, 825 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: but you never know. It's possible. Arises. Just man, he's special, 826 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: right where's he gonna go? Ding? You think four? I 827 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: think fourth round? I think I think he's he's that good, 828 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: that's rich. Yeah, if he's a team's view him as 829 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: a defensive weapon, you know, because if his what he 830 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: could do with that booming leg at his Yeah, man, 831 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know if we're gonna get the Putter talk 832 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: to you next week, because we're gonna get Putter talking. 833 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad we closed it. Hey, Dave, this was awesome, brother. 834 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: Next week we'll do it again. Um, fans love it 835 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: and we're pumped to have you this month. I can't 836 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: wait to do it. Could be a lot of fun. 837 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: All right, guys, that'll do it for us. We are 838 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: almost there in Las Vegas for Matt money Smith and 839 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: Dave Ruegler. I'm Chris Hary. This has been Chargers Weekend.