WEBVTT - Just One Of Those Weird Lulls (S2, E14 "It Should've Been Lorelai") 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:17.160 I Am all In. Hello, let's just Doro, I Am 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.040 all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast. Everybody, Hi, 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:28.400 Welcome to season two, episode fourteen. It should have been 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.879 Laurel I right. Oh man, um yeah. First of all, 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.960 let me say hello, It's Scott Patterson. This is I 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.559 Am I Am all In Podcast, I Heart Radio one 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.839 eleven Productions. We have Danielle Romo joining us. Hello, Danielle. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.599 We have Riley pelusis coming off a huge, huge debut. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.479 The after party after the premiere was crazy. We'll get 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.080 into that. I mean people were hanging off the rafters. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.680 I mean it was unbelievable. Amy Sugarman has joined us. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.200 Hello Amy. Riley got renewed for a second She got 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.400 renewed for a second episode because the first uh pop 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:13.479 culture minisod was huge success. Huge commenters liked her, so 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:18.200 she gets to try again. That's you know what, that's 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:24.360 pretty dark good. That's pretty dark good. So congratulations Riley. Hey, 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.280 we're riding shotgun with you through uh the peaks and 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.920 valleys of success. We got you that kiddo. Valleys will 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.679 come yay, you know, but you know they're not going 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.240 to feel like valleys they actually feel like, you know, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.360 the best times you're ever gonna have because we're all 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.479 trying to make everybody feel better. I did. I did 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.000 a lunge at the gym, and somebody's like, was that 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:51.720 you stilly walking? Really, you're getting recognized already. Nice a 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:57.840 lunge at the gym. Now it's Danielle's turn. But do 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.120 you prefer to be the power behind the thrown the hand? 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:07.160 I loving behind you? Like being that power, right, I know? 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.720 I like me behind the scenes. I let Riley do 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.680 the silly walking. You know, yeah, I know you know 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.120 what you're doing. You're just you know, we're puppets on 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:20.520 a string and you were over there anyway. Um, what 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.080 an episode? Good lord? Uh, you know what I loved. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.600 First of all, I think this is the best, best 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.560 written episode, best act. I think this was number one 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:34.399 for me. This replaces the dinner party so far. This 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:39.720 had me so deeply engaged. Every single second. I did 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.560 not waiver, I did not waver, And I know why. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:47.080 I just figured it out. Um because it was an 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.400 adult themed show and the kids stuff doesn't interest me 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:57.400 that much. And I love working. I love all these guys. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.799 I love Jared and Matt and Milow. I love working 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.200 with him, but I tell you that stuff, and it's 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:10.080 a c W dictate, right, Like it's a younger skewing audience. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.840 We've got to ramp up the rory stuff. We've got 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.360 to give her some some pretty guys get around a 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:22.280 love triangle. Uh And and that's not my demo, so 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.520 I'm not as engaged when that comes on. Guess what 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:30.400 the median age is for a c W viewer? Yeah, 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:40.200 what is it? Forty or fourteen? Really? Everyone thinks c 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.240 W viewers are so much younger. They're actually like a 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.720 thirty five year old woman. Huh. Well, then continue, you know, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.160 then the kids stuff still works for them, right, I 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.000 suppose it'd be interesting to sort of ask around if 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.400 people like the lorelized stuff or if they really like 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:04.800 the ror stuff. For me, it's all yeah, I personally 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.560 I could do without it. I still like it, and 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.840 I still love working with those guys, and I think 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.680 they add a lot to the show, But me personally 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.800 as an audience don't need it. What did you think 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.839 of Paris? Because we'll get into the meat, but I 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.000 just need to know off the top, what do you 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.000 think of Paris? I think Paris is a very well 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:27.559 established character, and I think whatever I was turned off 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.840 by actually sort of clicked in for this episode because 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.400 I knew what to expect, and I found myself kind 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:38.920 of rooting for her. You know, I wanted her to win, um, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.479 and I thought that that boy that was melting down 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.200 from Hillsdale School that was at Chiltern and transferred, I thought, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.240 you know, he deserves to be crushed, for God's sake. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.400 I mean, if that's if he's gonna pale like that 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.159 at a high school debate, I mean, buck up, dude, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.839 come on. Always ultimately feel sorry for Paris, Like just 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.800 when you're like she's so irritating and nuts, then you 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.440 see like she really just wanted to hang out with 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.280 Rory after she just wants a friend. Yeah, she's not 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.400 gonna she's not she's not gonna have any friends, Like 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:17.680 she doesn't have family there, everybody there. Yeah. Yeah, So 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.080 ultimately I was kind of feel bad for but she 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.719 is irritating, like she isn't hidden irritating. But I didn't 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.279 find her irritating in this episode. I found her with 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.479 a real purpose and I relate to people that want 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.719 to win and want to win badly, because that's how 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:39.440 that's how I used to be. You've come around, Yeah, well, yeah, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.599 I think I have come around a little bit to 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:47.280 Paris because God, I think maybe I was reacting so 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.200 strongly in a negative way because I just related to 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:56.279 her too much. That's funny, you know, I decided to go. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.000 I decided to put myself on the couch and uh 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.919 and you know, have a clubhouse meeting with myself and 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.040 and and really think about it, you know, like, why 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.240 am I having this adverse reaction to Paris? And and 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.200 I realized it's because I'm a lot like her. I 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.760 used to be a lot like that. She's much more 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:17.640 complicated than just being nuts. Yeah, and it's not fair 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.400 of me to to apply those labels to her. But 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:27.760 the behavior is screaming out for some assistance, for sure. Um. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.840 But I do have a little more empathy for her 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:36.440 now because I was her, So, I mean I used 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.360 to really really push push push people and really want 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.240 to win, and it was all it was just all 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.640 about winning. And that does come And maybe we'll talk 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.719 to the psychologist about this. That does come from a 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.000 deficit on the family side. Yeah, we should do another 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:55.760 therapy session like we did before. You've healed a lot, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.800 so you don't have as much growing to do. But 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.320 I think she could still help everybody sort of come 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.800 to understand Paris. Yeah, I think one of the very 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.679 positive things about her she she does what it takes 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.360 to win, leaves no stone unturned. I do think perfectionism 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.600 like that is it's really just you know, anxiety run 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.760 amuck um, and to be around that can be really annoying. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.520 But if you're in a debate, you do want to win. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.560 You do want to talk fast, you do want to 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.400 crush the opposition. You don't want to give him a 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.840 chance to get up off the mat. And that's how 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.200 you want to debate. So here's a little segue for you. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.280 Because as I'm thinking about Paris, like Paris is a 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.200 little bit about Paris, you know, she's always sort of 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.080 fighting for herself, gotta win, gotta win. Like you said 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:50.280 to me, what was not shocking because we've known it 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.320 was the true flaw we saw in Lower Lie. At 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.000 the end of this episode, Man, that was just a 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.080 knockout punch, wasn't it. Because I know we'll go out 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.120 of order, so we need to get to it, but 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.280 I had to agree with Christopher. It was heartbreaking for 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.640 me because now I see and I'm listen, I'm not 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.080 watching this as Luke anymore. I'm watching this as a fan, now, okay. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.280 And um, not that Luke wasn't a fan of the show. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.280 Luke wasn't aware of the show. He's in the show. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.840 He's not aware of the show. We'd like to ask 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.480 you a question, is Luke, did you go home and 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.120 watch you while I was I was in the show. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.920 I wasn't aware of the show. It's a different It's 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.839 not it's a different reality. It's like I'm a hologram. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:41.040 What who me? Um? I was a little taken aback 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.400 by that. I thought I thought it had a real, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.199 real dramatic impact. I mean it was it was unexpected, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.960 and I mean he was kind of right, and that 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:54.480 he was also wrong. Um. And she was also full 0:08:54.520 --> 0:09:00.360 of full of bleep. She is full of crap. She's 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.240 trying to convince herself. But she was still in a 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.960 mode where she was in pain from the drubbing she 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.080 took from her mother. And I think she was reaching 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.760 out to Christopher for an answer, to to somebody please 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.360 comfort me somehow, and this is how I'm going to 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.080 try to do it. And I think all her I 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.800 think her intentions were pure, and I think they were good. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.440 But she the blind spot she had was that dysfunction 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.480 with her mother, and it made her say that. It 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.600 put her in a position to say that and not 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.680 consider his feelings. She had to figure out some way 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.240 like how do I make peace with this? How do 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.319 I not make my mother be right? Even though she 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.440 I know she's right. It's like, Okay, I'm gonna try 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.040 and twist this and say, well, she was right, but 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.920 now she's not right because I'm moving on. And it's like, dude, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:55.360 you love him? Yeah, I think not. I think she 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.560 wanted Christopher to say, yeah, you're right. I had to 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.240 go through that same feeling. But now that I'm with Sherry, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:06.199 I'm finally over you. Like she wanted him to comfort 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.040 her during that time and she was seeking and she 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.760 and he did he did not do that. That was 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.600 I was heartbroken for her. I really was, because I 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.920 was heartbroken for him as an audience, you know, as 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.839 an audience, I'm looking at this like, Wow, these two 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.640 are are good together. They're kind of right, and and yeah, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:34.480 I mean again. Um, you know, it's a searing pain 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.720 for a child to see their parents apart. They do 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.520 want their parents together. No matter what Rory said or 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.800 how she tried to play it off, you know, Um, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.120 she's she was a little bit in denial. She does 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.920 want her parents together. Of course she does. It is 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.000 a big deal to her. But she's not gonna, you know, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.440 she's not like Laurea la in that sense where she's 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.960 gonna you know, she's wearing her heart on her sleeve necessarily. Um. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:03.480 But um, you know, I it was just so sad 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:08.079 to see it end like that, in in another bitter fight. Well, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:13.200 and Christopher's right, although maybe he could have reacted to 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.360 it differently, I'm not saying him just like blowing up 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.280 was that was the best thing to do. But he 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.160 always loved lorli He wanted to be with lor Lai 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.679 from the start. She was the one that said no, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.280 you know, he would have stayed and raised the baby 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.360 with her and then you know, beholden to the parents whatever. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.280 But she knew he didn't have it in it. But 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.840 she always loved him. He always loved her, and in 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.800 a sense he wasn't wrong to interpret what she was 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.040 saying as blaming him, So I get why he was like, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.400 screw you, but he but he but he, but he 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.559 has sounded needy in past episodes when he has called, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.120 and it always sounds like for him, the doors open 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.760 to maybe giving it another shot. I'm not he's not 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.880 saying that, and maybe he is. And I've missed it 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.760 but or forgot about it already my short term memory. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.559 But you know, he always sounds like he's kind of 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.360 her guy and still still wants to be her guy. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.520 And I'm open to it. And did it not long ago? 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.840 And yes? And that's what's so shocking about that final scene. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.000 It's the last thing I expected to happen. I thought 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.320 he would show a little more compassion, but I think 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.319 he saw it as maybe a little bit of manipulation 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.120 on her part, an attack on him to try to 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.120 mess up his relationship with maian Aman. Right, Well, he 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.120 said it himself. So she has brought guys around, She 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:51.760 was even engaged the girl around, and she's going to 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.080 act like this. He's kind of like, what the hell 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.640 do you not when I'm happy? Right? And he made 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.360 that point to her when he picked her up and 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.800 they were getting into the car said, you were engaged 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.800 in Max mctina. You didn't tell me. I wasn't a 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.520 part of that equation. I wasn't a part and she said, well, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.079 you eventually would have been. It's like, what, screw you? 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.360 I mean, I think I think that's what pissed him off. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:17.320 That's why I'm calling yeah, because she is not that 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.280 what she said at the diner, even though I think 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.120 she is trying to convince herself, I don't think it 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.160 was true. I think what she wanted to say was like, 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.319 am I going to be with this chip? Right or wrong? 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.520 M h. I agree, and so so it was wrong 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.319 multiple level. Yeah, And it's like I get it what 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.600 she was sort of trying. And I think she's trying 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.320 to convince herself, Okay, now that he is with this person, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.040 I can move on. But she should have just said 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:50.640 it to her bathroom mirror, not him. I think she 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.880 has I think she is so much stronger and Christopher, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.720 and I think she has matured at a faster rate 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:03.840 than Christopher. And she was waiting for Christopher for years 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.320 to get it together. He never got it together. He 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.760 always tried something right. This is what I do remember 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.720 about the show what I do remember about his character 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.680 is that he was you know, he tried something for 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.040 six months and then leave. He'd go to California's a 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.240 great opportunity. Then he can be back, you know, so 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.040 on and so forth. So this was his pattern. How 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.560 can how can she have a life with somebody like that? Right? 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.760 How can she depend on that kind of a guy? 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.000 She can't. He's bouncing all over the country. He's got 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.560 this idea, and now he's got six months later he's 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.840 got another ideas, and it's like, at a certain point 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.120 you just throw up your hands. Um. But at the 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:46.040 same time, to me, the only person that she has 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:51.200 chemistry with like she has with you, Luke, is Christopher. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.880 There's no sorry, there's no there can be only one. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.240 There can be only one. But if you were just 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.120 looking for the outside, the only one that has a 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.800 close second to Luke is Christopher. I see it in 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.560 their banter, I see it in their chemistry. It's Luke's 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.920 up here, okay, and then Christopher's will okay, But then 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:18.640 show me where Max is lower than Christopher? Right, Gosh, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.680 you know what I don't know. I agree with you 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.960 Amy about Leonard, like he knows her a little. He 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:32.760 knows those things correct, right, But I think that just 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.240 because he's from the same social class. I mean, he 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.680 gets it. And how could you not hear her from 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.440 the kitchen by the way he knows her. That's the thing. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.080 We can debate it. But I know, I know, I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.080 know the only other one that really knows her. And 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.280 I'm not saying she's meant to be with him. I'm 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.520 just saying he's the only one that has a shot 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.080 at it other than you know, Luke did seem like 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.080 an outsider in this situation, didn't he. He really did. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:06.640 I mean, especially Emily doesn't want Luke around. Laurel I 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:11.200 doesn't seem to want Luke around. It's like he's just 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.760 the guy that brings us to you know. He really 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.400 felt h neutralized and even minimized in this episode. I 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.720 thought a little bit. Well, but remember it was only 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.200 last week, so in in Gilmore time, that could have 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.280 been just a few days ago that you two are 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.360 having the moment with the with the tis get a 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.120 task at basket. So like that's what I always love too, 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.120 is like we didn't even see Jess this week too, 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.840 and we just had that huge Jess episode so they 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.280 just never pound us over the head with things. That's 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.600 why we are so cooked. Boy, it's you know, it's 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.920 a very complex, very layered situation walking into any kind 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.920 of a situation with Laurel I, with her history and 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.320 what she's been through. I mean, if you want to 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.480 get involved with her romantically, wow, I mean you're gonna 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.080 have to deal with a lot of baggage. And should 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.560 we talk about Sherry? Should we take a break and 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.119 talk about Cherry and talking about sharing a little bit? 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.480 I want to think of sharing. All right, We're gonna 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.280 take a little pause here, and when we come back, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.040 we'll talk about Sherry, the lovely and talented Mansion Amick. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:20.720 All right, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, okay, everybody, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.720 we're back. We're gonna talk about Sherry played by Mansion Amock, who, um, 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.720 I think was considered uh to play uh Laura I 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:35.320 Gilmore originally. Yes, I think that's uh. I think that 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.440 is true. Yeah, And she wasn't available and they kept 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:43.760 looking looking looking, um, but yeah, she's she's something, isn't 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.320 she on screen? Wow? What a face? What a what 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:51.119 a talent? What a just a wow factor? There? Um right, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.080 I mean she's still just works so much. Oh yeah, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:18:00.680 she's great. Um and uh, completely different type of personality 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.639 from Laurela. And you know what, I can you know 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.639 if you compare the two. And I think this is 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.280 one of the things that I think Laurelai was really 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.320 afraid at the end of this episode that gosh, darn it, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:18.880 maybe there's something wrong with me. Maybe maybe he I'm 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.800 just not good enough for him. Maybe I never was. 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.119 Do you think she is experiencing some self doubt on 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:30.600 that level because now that she's seen Sherry, and Sherry 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.639 is a completely different animal from her, thinks different than 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.440 I mean Sherry. Sherry is like one of the most 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:42.879 considerate people. And I'm not saying she's as multifaceted or 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.480 entertaining as Laura La. She's very successful, she's very right, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.359 she's very she's kind of corporate, she's very successful. She 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.600 says the right thing, she dresses in the right way. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:57.639 She's perfect. It's like she's this perfect person. Would you 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.640 say it's the first person that Laurela has been sort 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.920 of jealous of. Yeah, she was jealous of her right away. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:09.880 And uh, um, I mean that is a fully formed, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:16.440 mature adult woman who has who's responsible, who wants children? 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.439 Who wants a good man? And I don't know if 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.080 Christopher is going to make it well his weakness his 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:28.639 surface eventually that will be interesting to say. Uh, but 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:34.119 that is I mean that character, her character, Sherry is 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:39.119 is a substantial person. I mean that is a well bred, 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:45.960 well educated, professional, considerate, courteous um. I mean she was 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.960 letter perfect on everything, even to the point where she 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.840 was disarming Lee honest about isn't this awkward? And you know, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.600 I just want you to know there's no pressure on 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.040 you to be friends with me or spect. I mean 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.520 it was just like what you think of that scene. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.040 I thought it was an adult, uh, taking the reins 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:08.280 and trying to make things easy for Laura la Let's 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.879 acknowledge that it's an awkward situation and let's talk about it. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.720 But she she was so direct with it. And I 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.320 think she's so used to coming from the sales sales 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.600 e world where she's she's great at if she's the 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.320 East Coast rep for Laurel. For God's sake, she's a 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.760 heck of a salesperson, right. I mean she knows how 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.399 to charm the pants off of anybody. I mean for 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.160 God's sake. I mean, they only hire the most talented people, 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.840 and there are people out there like that who can 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.639 you know they can sell ice to an eskimo. Um, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.600 what did you guys think of that scene in the kitchen. 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.520 It's hard for me because I feel like I know 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.960 too much what I thought. I thought Laura la got 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.360 into the ring with somebody who had who had more 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.880 punching power. She got into the ring with an adult, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:59.600 I mean, a real adult, and it's like she was outmatched. Yeah, 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.520 you say, and then I'll say, because I don't want to, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.120 I don't know if other things are clouding my opinion, 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.920 go ahead. I appreciated where Sherry was going, like trying 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:14.280 to be quote unquote cool, but I thought she she 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.120 she like tried going too much. Like she just kept 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.760 repeating herself and repeating herself. We don't need to be friends. 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.320 I just want to be cool with Rory. You know. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.959 It's just like it was too much. I don't know. 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.320 One time was to say that was great, and then 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.000 she just lost me after the fifth time. You can 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.960 only imagine what Christopher said behind Laurel ized back to 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:39.000 Sherry about her personality, and it's like you know, you're 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.800 walking into a bunch of landmines. Be careful. She's a 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.720 little off center. Um, she may be crazy. She'll say 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.800 anything at any time. She's got a she's an extremely smart, 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:55.159 very complex person, you know. So it's like this this 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.800 disconnect where Laurel I thinks that she's got some kind 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.840 of relationship or even chance with Christopher and he's like, man, 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.119 I finally found somebody that isn't nuts, you know, I 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:10.280 think us. Yeah, And what I don't know is if 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.840 it's because of something I know. And everyone listening is 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:17.280 probably with me on this, So like, you guys, aren't 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:22.000 she seemed nuts? Yeah, I'm with you, and it's my 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.760 first time watching it. One thing I did want to say, 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:26.800 back to what you were saying, Scott about how you 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:31.680 felt that Lorala was a little jealous. I I don't 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.919 think she was a little jealous. But I think she 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:39.240 had this realization that Christopher's going somewhere, like he's going places, 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:43.360 he has this superstar girlfriend, like things are panning out 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.840 for him, and I think she kind of had this 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.960 realization that where am I going? What's what? What am 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.680 I adding to my life? Like, what's what's going on 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:59.560 and she's not where he is, and he's kind of yeah, yeah, okay, alright, 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.880 I is jos of the situation, but not so much 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:06.280 jealous of Sherry. Sure she was are you kidding? Oh god, 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.240 she looked great. I mean she looked letter perfect, perfect, 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.480 She looked like she I mean, she just looked like 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:18.719 a really classy woman. I agree with you, and beautiful. 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.200 She seemed a little nuts. What do you mean, Wait 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.040 a minute, come on, nuts, what are you talking about? 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.000 What pushy? She was too pushy. She was being a 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.919 little aggressive, and so therefore she's nuts. I don't know, 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.800 aggressive because it's like she you're right, aggressive, but she's 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.560 not like aggressive about it. It's like she's a little 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:43.960 to ask KISSI to Rory. She's a little too hashtag 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:48.040 trying too hard, which I get because if you're in 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.560 that position, that is a super difficult position to navigate. 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:56.280 But if, but if Christopher prepped her about what she 0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:01.399 was really walking into, and of course she's going to 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:06.119 be disarmingly charming and actually aggressive about it, just to 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:11.440 diffuse any potential situation that could arise, because you know, 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.640 the wild card is what is Laura? Like? How's Laura? 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.720 I gonna react. What's she gonna say? I mean, there 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.399 was a moment there on a couch when Laura la 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.439 had a couple of quippy, very funny things, and Sherry 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.919 just looked at her said, excuse me, she doesn't right, 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.760 she doesn't get you, don't look. Rory summed her up 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.280 really well at breakfast, like she drives the speed limit 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:37.400