1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: I Am all In. Hello, let's just Doro, I Am 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast. Everybody, Hi, 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to season two, episode fourteen. It should have been 4 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Laurel I right. Oh man, um yeah. First of all, 5 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: let me say hello, It's Scott Patterson. This is I 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Am I Am all In Podcast, I Heart Radio one 7 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: eleven Productions. We have Danielle Romo joining us. Hello, Danielle. 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: We have Riley pelusis coming off a huge, huge debut. 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: The after party after the premiere was crazy. We'll get 10 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: into that. I mean people were hanging off the rafters. 11 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was unbelievable. Amy Sugarman has joined us. 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Hello Amy. Riley got renewed for a second She got 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: renewed for a second episode because the first uh pop 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: culture minisod was huge success. Huge commenters liked her, so 15 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: she gets to try again. That's you know what, that's 16 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: pretty dark good. That's pretty dark good. So congratulations Riley. Hey, 17 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: we're riding shotgun with you through uh the peaks and 18 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: valleys of success. We got you that kiddo. Valleys will 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: come yay, you know, but you know they're not going 20 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: to feel like valleys they actually feel like, you know, 21 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: the best times you're ever gonna have because we're all 22 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: trying to make everybody feel better. I did. I did 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: a lunge at the gym, and somebody's like, was that 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: you stilly walking? Really, you're getting recognized already. Nice a 25 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: lunge at the gym. Now it's Danielle's turn. But do 26 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: you prefer to be the power behind the thrown the hand? 27 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: I loving behind you? Like being that power, right, I know? 28 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I like me behind the scenes. I let Riley do 29 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: the silly walking. You know, yeah, I know you know 30 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're just you know, we're puppets on 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: a string and you were over there anyway. Um, what 32 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: an episode? Good lord? Uh, you know what I loved. 33 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: First of all, I think this is the best, best 34 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: written episode, best act. I think this was number one 35 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: for me. This replaces the dinner party so far. This 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: had me so deeply engaged. Every single second. I did 37 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: not waiver, I did not waver, And I know why. 38 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: I just figured it out. Um because it was an 39 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: adult themed show and the kids stuff doesn't interest me 40 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: that much. And I love working. I love all these guys. 41 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: I love Jared and Matt and Milow. I love working 42 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: with him, but I tell you that stuff, and it's 43 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: a c W dictate, right, Like it's a younger skewing audience. 44 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: We've got to ramp up the rory stuff. We've got 45 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: to give her some some pretty guys get around a 46 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: love triangle. Uh And and that's not my demo, so 47 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm not as engaged when that comes on. Guess what 48 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: the median age is for a c W viewer? Yeah, 49 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: what is it? Forty or fourteen? Really? Everyone thinks c 50 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: W viewers are so much younger. They're actually like a 51 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: thirty five year old woman. Huh. Well, then continue, you know, 52 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: then the kids stuff still works for them, right, I 53 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: suppose it'd be interesting to sort of ask around if 54 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: people like the lorelized stuff or if they really like 55 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the ror stuff. For me, it's all yeah, I personally 56 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: I could do without it. I still like it, and 57 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I still love working with those guys, and I think 58 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: they add a lot to the show, But me personally 59 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: as an audience don't need it. What did you think 60 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: of Paris? Because we'll get into the meat, but I 61 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: just need to know off the top, what do you 62 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: think of Paris? I think Paris is a very well 63 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: established character, and I think whatever I was turned off 64 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: by actually sort of clicked in for this episode because 65 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: I knew what to expect, and I found myself kind 66 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: of rooting for her. You know, I wanted her to win, um, 67 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: and I thought that that boy that was melting down 68 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: from Hillsdale School that was at Chiltern and transferred, I thought, 69 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, he deserves to be crushed, for God's sake. 70 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's if he's gonna pale like that 71 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: at a high school debate, I mean, buck up, dude, 72 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: come on. Always ultimately feel sorry for Paris, Like just 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: when you're like she's so irritating and nuts, then you 74 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: see like she really just wanted to hang out with 75 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: Rory after she just wants a friend. Yeah, she's not 76 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: gonna she's not she's not gonna have any friends, Like 77 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: she doesn't have family there, everybody there. Yeah. Yeah, So 78 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: ultimately I was kind of feel bad for but she 79 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: is irritating, like she isn't hidden irritating. But I didn't 80 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: find her irritating in this episode. I found her with 81 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: a real purpose and I relate to people that want 82 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: to win and want to win badly, because that's how 83 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: that's how I used to be. You've come around, Yeah, well, yeah, 84 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: I think I have come around a little bit to 85 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: Paris because God, I think maybe I was reacting so 86 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: strongly in a negative way because I just related to 87 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: her too much. That's funny, you know, I decided to go. 88 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: I decided to put myself on the couch and uh 89 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: and you know, have a clubhouse meeting with myself and 90 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: and and really think about it, you know, like, why 91 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: am I having this adverse reaction to Paris? And and 92 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: I realized it's because I'm a lot like her. I 93 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: used to be a lot like that. She's much more 94 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: complicated than just being nuts. Yeah, and it's not fair 95 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: of me to to apply those labels to her. But 96 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: the behavior is screaming out for some assistance, for sure. Um. 97 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: But I do have a little more empathy for her 98 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: now because I was her, So, I mean I used 99 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: to really really push push push people and really want 100 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: to win, and it was all it was just all 101 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: about winning. And that does come And maybe we'll talk 102 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: to the psychologist about this. That does come from a 103 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: deficit on the family side. Yeah, we should do another 104 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: therapy session like we did before. You've healed a lot, 105 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: so you don't have as much growing to do. But 106 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I think she could still help everybody sort of come 107 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: to understand Paris. Yeah, I think one of the very 108 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: positive things about her she she does what it takes 109 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: to win, leaves no stone unturned. I do think perfectionism 110 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: like that is it's really just you know, anxiety run 111 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: amuck um, and to be around that can be really annoying. 112 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: But if you're in a debate, you do want to win. 113 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: You do want to talk fast, you do want to 114 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: crush the opposition. You don't want to give him a 115 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: chance to get up off the mat. And that's how 116 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: you want to debate. So here's a little segue for you. 117 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: Because as I'm thinking about Paris, like Paris is a 118 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: little bit about Paris, you know, she's always sort of 119 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: fighting for herself, gotta win, gotta win. Like you said 120 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: to me, what was not shocking because we've known it 121 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: was the true flaw we saw in Lower Lie. At 122 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: the end of this episode, Man, that was just a 123 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: knockout punch, wasn't it. Because I know we'll go out 124 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: of order, so we need to get to it, but 125 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I had to agree with Christopher. It was heartbreaking for 126 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: me because now I see and I'm listen, I'm not 127 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: watching this as Luke anymore. I'm watching this as a fan, now, okay. 128 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: And um, not that Luke wasn't a fan of the show. 129 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Luke wasn't aware of the show. He's in the show. 130 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: He's not aware of the show. We'd like to ask 131 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: you a question, is Luke, did you go home and 132 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: watch you while I was I was in the show. 133 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of the show. It's a different It's 134 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: not it's a different reality. It's like I'm a hologram. 135 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: What who me? Um? I was a little taken aback 136 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: by that. I thought I thought it had a real, 137 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: real dramatic impact. I mean it was it was unexpected, 138 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: and I mean he was kind of right, and that 139 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: he was also wrong. Um. And she was also full 140 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of full of bleep. She is full of crap. She's 141 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: trying to convince herself. But she was still in a 142 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: mode where she was in pain from the drubbing she 143 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: took from her mother. And I think she was reaching 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: out to Christopher for an answer, to to somebody please 145 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: comfort me somehow, and this is how I'm going to 146 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: try to do it. And I think all her I 147 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: think her intentions were pure, and I think they were good. 148 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: But she the blind spot she had was that dysfunction 149 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: with her mother, and it made her say that. It 150 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: put her in a position to say that and not 151 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: consider his feelings. She had to figure out some way 152 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: like how do I make peace with this? How do 153 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: I not make my mother be right? Even though she 154 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I know she's right. It's like, Okay, I'm gonna try 155 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: and twist this and say, well, she was right, but 156 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: now she's not right because I'm moving on. And it's like, dude, 157 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: you love him? Yeah, I think not. I think she 158 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: wanted Christopher to say, yeah, you're right. I had to 159 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: go through that same feeling. But now that I'm with Sherry, 160 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: I'm finally over you. Like she wanted him to comfort 161 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: her during that time and she was seeking and she 162 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: and he did he did not do that. That was 163 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: I was heartbroken for her. I really was, because I 164 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: was heartbroken for him as an audience, you know, as 165 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: an audience, I'm looking at this like, Wow, these two 166 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: are are good together. They're kind of right, and and yeah, 167 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean again. Um, you know, it's a searing pain 168 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: for a child to see their parents apart. They do 169 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: want their parents together. No matter what Rory said or 170 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: how she tried to play it off, you know, Um, 171 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: she's she was a little bit in denial. She does 172 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: want her parents together. Of course she does. It is 173 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: a big deal to her. But she's not gonna, you know, 174 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: she's not like Laurea la in that sense where she's 175 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna you know, she's wearing her heart on her sleeve necessarily. Um. 176 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I it was just so sad 177 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: to see it end like that, in in another bitter fight. Well, 178 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: and Christopher's right, although maybe he could have reacted to 179 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: it differently, I'm not saying him just like blowing up 180 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: was that was the best thing to do. But he 181 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: always loved lorli He wanted to be with lor Lai 182 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: from the start. She was the one that said no, 183 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, he would have stayed and raised the baby 184 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: with her and then you know, beholden to the parents whatever. 185 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: But she knew he didn't have it in it. But 186 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: she always loved him. He always loved her, and in 187 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: a sense he wasn't wrong to interpret what she was 188 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: saying as blaming him, So I get why he was like, 189 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: screw you, but he but he but he, but he 190 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: has sounded needy in past episodes when he has called, 191 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: and it always sounds like for him, the doors open 192 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: to maybe giving it another shot. I'm not he's not 193 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: saying that, and maybe he is. And I've missed it 194 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: but or forgot about it already my short term memory. 195 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: But you know, he always sounds like he's kind of 196 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: her guy and still still wants to be her guy. 197 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: And I'm open to it. And did it not long ago? 198 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: And yes? And that's what's so shocking about that final scene. 199 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: It's the last thing I expected to happen. I thought 200 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: he would show a little more compassion, but I think 201 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: he saw it as maybe a little bit of manipulation 202 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: on her part, an attack on him to try to 203 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: mess up his relationship with maian Aman. Right, Well, he 204 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: said it himself. So she has brought guys around, She 205 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: was even engaged the girl around, and she's going to 206 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: act like this. He's kind of like, what the hell 207 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: do you not when I'm happy? Right? And he made 208 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: that point to her when he picked her up and 209 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: they were getting into the car said, you were engaged 210 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: in Max mctina. You didn't tell me. I wasn't a 211 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: part of that equation. I wasn't a part and she said, well, 212 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: you eventually would have been. It's like, what, screw you? 213 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that's what pissed him off. 214 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: That's why I'm calling yeah, because she is not that 215 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: what she said at the diner, even though I think 216 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: she is trying to convince herself, I don't think it 217 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: was true. I think what she wanted to say was like, 218 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: am I going to be with this chip? Right or wrong? 219 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: M h. I agree, and so so it was wrong 220 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: multiple level. Yeah, And it's like I get it what 221 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: she was sort of trying. And I think she's trying 222 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: to convince herself, Okay, now that he is with this person, 223 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I can move on. But she should have just said 224 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: it to her bathroom mirror, not him. I think she 225 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: has I think she is so much stronger and Christopher, 226 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: and I think she has matured at a faster rate 227 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: than Christopher. And she was waiting for Christopher for years 228 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: to get it together. He never got it together. He 229 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: always tried something right. This is what I do remember 230 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: about the show what I do remember about his character 231 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: is that he was you know, he tried something for 232 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: six months and then leave. He'd go to California's a 233 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: great opportunity. Then he can be back, you know, so 234 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: on and so forth. So this was his pattern. How 235 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: can how can she have a life with somebody like that? Right? 236 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: How can she depend on that kind of a guy? 237 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: She can't. He's bouncing all over the country. He's got 238 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: this idea, and now he's got six months later he's 239 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: got another ideas, and it's like, at a certain point 240 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: you just throw up your hands. Um. But at the 241 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: same time, to me, the only person that she has 242 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: chemistry with like she has with you, Luke, is Christopher. 243 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: There's no sorry, there's no there can be only one. 244 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: There can be only one. But if you were just 245 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: looking for the outside, the only one that has a 246 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: close second to Luke is Christopher. I see it in 247 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: their banter, I see it in their chemistry. It's Luke's 248 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: up here, okay, and then Christopher's will okay, But then 249 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: show me where Max is lower than Christopher? Right, Gosh, 250 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: you know what I don't know. I agree with you 251 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Amy about Leonard, like he knows her a little. He 252 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: knows those things correct, right, But I think that just 253 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: because he's from the same social class. I mean, he 254 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: gets it. And how could you not hear her from 255 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: the kitchen by the way he knows her. That's the thing. 256 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: We can debate it. But I know, I know, I 257 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: know the only other one that really knows her. And 258 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's meant to be with him. I'm 259 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: just saying he's the only one that has a shot 260 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: at it other than you know, Luke did seem like 261 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: an outsider in this situation, didn't he. He really did. 262 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, especially Emily doesn't want Luke around. Laurel I 263 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to want Luke around. It's like he's just 264 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: the guy that brings us to you know. He really 265 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: felt h neutralized and even minimized in this episode. I 266 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: thought a little bit. Well, but remember it was only 267 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: last week, so in in Gilmore time, that could have 268 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: been just a few days ago that you two are 269 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: having the moment with the with the tis get a 270 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: task at basket. So like that's what I always love too, 271 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: is like we didn't even see Jess this week too, 272 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: and we just had that huge Jess episode so they 273 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: just never pound us over the head with things. That's 274 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: why we are so cooked. Boy, it's you know, it's 275 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: a very complex, very layered situation walking into any kind 276 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: of a situation with Laurel I, with her history and 277 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: what she's been through. I mean, if you want to 278 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: get involved with her romantically, wow, I mean you're gonna 279 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: have to deal with a lot of baggage. And should 280 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: we talk about Sherry? Should we take a break and 281 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: talk about Cherry and talking about sharing a little bit? 282 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I want to think of sharing. All right, We're gonna 283 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: take a little pause here, and when we come back, 284 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Sherry, the lovely and talented Mansion Amick. 285 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, okay, everybody, 286 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: we're back. We're gonna talk about Sherry played by Mansion Amock, who, um, 287 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: I think was considered uh to play uh Laura I 288 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Gilmore originally. Yes, I think that's uh. I think that 289 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: is true. Yeah, And she wasn't available and they kept 290 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: looking looking looking, um, but yeah, she's she's something, isn't 291 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: she on screen? Wow? What a face? What a what 292 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: a talent? What a just a wow factor? There? Um right, 293 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean she's still just works so much. Oh yeah, 294 00:17:54,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: she's great. Um and uh, completely different type of personality 295 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: from Laurela. And you know what, I can you know 296 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: if you compare the two. And I think this is 297 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: one of the things that I think Laurelai was really 298 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: afraid at the end of this episode that gosh, darn it, 299 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: maybe there's something wrong with me. Maybe maybe he I'm 300 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: just not good enough for him. Maybe I never was. 301 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: Do you think she is experiencing some self doubt on 302 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: that level because now that she's seen Sherry, and Sherry 303 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: is a completely different animal from her, thinks different than 304 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean Sherry. Sherry is like one of the most 305 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: considerate people. And I'm not saying she's as multifaceted or 306 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: entertaining as Laura La. She's very successful, she's very right, 307 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: she's very she's kind of corporate, she's very successful. She 308 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: says the right thing, she dresses in the right way. 309 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: She's perfect. It's like she's this perfect person. Would you 310 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: say it's the first person that Laurela has been sort 311 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: of jealous of. Yeah, she was jealous of her right away. 312 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: And uh, um, I mean that is a fully formed, 313 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: mature adult woman who has who's responsible, who wants children? 314 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: Who wants a good man? And I don't know if 315 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: Christopher is going to make it well his weakness his 316 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: surface eventually that will be interesting to say. Uh, but 317 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: that is I mean that character, her character, Sherry is 318 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: is a substantial person. I mean that is a well bred, 319 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: well educated, professional, considerate, courteous um. I mean she was 320 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: letter perfect on everything, even to the point where she 321 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: was disarming Lee honest about isn't this awkward? And you know, 322 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: I just want you to know there's no pressure on 323 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: you to be friends with me or spect. I mean 324 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: it was just like what you think of that scene. 325 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was an adult, uh, taking the reins 326 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: and trying to make things easy for Laura la Let's 327 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: acknowledge that it's an awkward situation and let's talk about it. 328 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: But she she was so direct with it. And I 329 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: think she's so used to coming from the sales sales 330 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: e world where she's she's great at if she's the 331 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: East Coast rep for Laurel. For God's sake, she's a 332 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: heck of a salesperson, right. I mean she knows how 333 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: to charm the pants off of anybody. I mean for 334 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: God's sake. I mean, they only hire the most talented people, 335 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: and there are people out there like that who can 336 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: you know they can sell ice to an eskimo. Um, 337 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: what did you guys think of that scene in the kitchen. 338 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: It's hard for me because I feel like I know 339 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: too much what I thought. I thought Laura la got 340 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: into the ring with somebody who had who had more 341 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: punching power. She got into the ring with an adult, 342 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, a real adult, and it's like she was outmatched. Yeah, 343 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: you say, and then I'll say, because I don't want to, 344 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if other things are clouding my opinion, 345 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: go ahead. I appreciated where Sherry was going, like trying 346 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: to be quote unquote cool, but I thought she she 347 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: she like tried going too much. Like she just kept 348 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: repeating herself and repeating herself. We don't need to be friends. 349 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: I just want to be cool with Rory. You know. 350 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: It's just like it was too much. I don't know. 351 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: One time was to say that was great, and then 352 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: she just lost me after the fifth time. You can 353 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: only imagine what Christopher said behind Laurel ized back to 354 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Sherry about her personality, and it's like you know, you're 355 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: walking into a bunch of landmines. Be careful. She's a 356 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: little off center. Um, she may be crazy. She'll say 357 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: anything at any time. She's got a she's an extremely smart, 358 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: very complex person, you know. So it's like this this 359 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: disconnect where Laurel I thinks that she's got some kind 360 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: of relationship or even chance with Christopher and he's like, man, 361 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: I finally found somebody that isn't nuts, you know, I 362 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: think us. Yeah, And what I don't know is if 363 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: it's because of something I know. And everyone listening is 364 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: probably with me on this, So like, you guys, aren't 365 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: she seemed nuts? Yeah, I'm with you, and it's my 366 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: first time watching it. One thing I did want to say, 367 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: back to what you were saying, Scott about how you 368 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: felt that Lorala was a little jealous. I I don't 369 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: think she was a little jealous. But I think she 370 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: had this realization that Christopher's going somewhere, like he's going places, 371 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: he has this superstar girlfriend, like things are panning out 372 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: for him, and I think she kind of had this 373 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: realization that where am I going? What's what? What am 374 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: I adding to my life? Like, what's what's going on 375 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: and she's not where he is, and he's kind of yeah, yeah, okay, alright, 376 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: I is jos of the situation, but not so much 377 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: jealous of Sherry. Sure she was are you kidding? Oh god, 378 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: she looked great. I mean she looked letter perfect, perfect, 379 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: She looked like she I mean, she just looked like 380 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: a really classy woman. I agree with you, and beautiful. 381 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: She seemed a little nuts. What do you mean, Wait 382 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: a minute, come on, nuts, what are you talking about? 383 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: What pushy? She was too pushy. She was being a 384 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: little aggressive, and so therefore she's nuts. I don't know, 385 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: aggressive because it's like she you're right, aggressive, but she's 386 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: not like aggressive about it. It's like she's a little 387 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: to ask KISSI to Rory. She's a little too hashtag 388 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: trying too hard, which I get because if you're in 389 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: that position, that is a super difficult position to navigate. 390 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: But if, but if Christopher prepped her about what she 391 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: was really walking into, and of course she's going to 392 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: be disarmingly charming and actually aggressive about it, just to 393 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: diffuse any potential situation that could arise, because you know, 394 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: the wild card is what is Laura? Like? How's Laura? 395 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I gonna react. What's she gonna say? I mean, there 396 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: was a moment there on a couch when Laura la 397 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: had a couple of quippy, very funny things, and Sherry 398 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: just looked at her said, excuse me, she doesn't right, 399 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't get you, don't look. Rory summed her up 400 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: really well at breakfast, like she drives the speed limit 401 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: and uses her blinker. I'll say it like this because 402 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin too much. She's not an artist. 403 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: In other words, she's not fun like Laurea la Is. 404 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: It's very mom like. I think that also makes Lorelai 405 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: I think, well, this is Christopher's type. I might not 406 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Christopher's type because I'm completely different than Sherry right exactly. 407 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: It puts her in It puts her in a very 408 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: precarious position psychologically speaking, because she just never imagined that 409 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: she wasn't even being considered all those years, you know 410 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and why was Christopher sleeping with me? 411 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: And why was he you know, laurelized just confused. I 412 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: think it was just all out of confusion. Uh. And 413 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: then he drops the hammer on her like that. Man, 414 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: what a moment to have for I felt really bad 415 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: for her. You know, I'm not sure Sherry is Christopher's type. 416 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: I think Christopher thinks he needs to have a girl 417 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: like Sherry. I think Sherry's a lot like Emily, which 418 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: is kind of weird. Yeah, that's not that she's more 419 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: like Emily that she uh than she is Laurela. And look, 420 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: Laurela is you know, she has the personality of an 421 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: artist and um, you know, a free spirit, a rebel 422 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: of Maverick, a loner, you know, but she's sotistic and everything. 423 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: You know, her life is like this this work of 424 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: art that's in progress and she's adding colors and she's 425 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: being entertaining and vibrant. She's she really is a live wire. 426 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: She's very, very compelling. And I I don't think she's crazy. 427 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: I just think that she's she just found herself wanting 428 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: more as a kid and it wasn't that life. And 429 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I just think I just think she could write a novel, 430 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: or she could paint, or she could write poetry. Just 431 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: she's got such poetry inside her. She's got artistic expression 432 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: and and and and subtleties inside her. You know, she's 433 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: so here's she's so literate, and you So here's the question. 434 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. And you really need 435 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: to be Scott, like you've got to be the ultimate Scott. 436 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: Although it I know it's hard for you to like 437 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: separate fully from Luke if you had to date. So 438 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: you're Scott, You're not Luke and Danielle and Riley. This 439 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: question is for you too. You have to dates. Got 440 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: either Lorely or Sherry and Danielle and Riley. You have 441 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: to be best friends with Lorelei or Sherry? Only one? 442 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: Who are you picking? H I mean friends Lordly. I 443 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: wanna have fun. Yeah, you want to have a lot 444 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: of laughs because you can enter, you know, and it 445 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: would be it's just fun to engage that. You know. 446 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: As perfect as Sherry is, she's not Laura and vice versa. 447 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, yeah, I I think after a while, 448 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: anybody can get on your nerves. It's just like, how 449 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: how long would it take for Sherry to get on 450 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: your nerves? So let her perfect, right, She's so let 451 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: her perfect her approach in life. She's already on my 452 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: nerves marked for death. And I don't know if it's 453 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: because I am such a fan of lor Lie, like 454 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: I want to be lor lie to me like I 455 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: want to be lor Lie. I love everything about lord Lye. 456 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: I love the way she is with men, I love 457 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: the way she is with friends. I love everything about her. 458 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: And yeah, like I would say, Sherry is probably the 459 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: first character that I don't love. I was a little 460 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: surprised that she agreed so quickly to let her skip 461 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Friday night dinner and go out with Sherry. I mean 462 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: that was a little inappropriate. I thought. I thought it 463 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: was a little pushy. It was a little abrupt, and like, well, 464 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about it next time. But but there's Sherry, 465 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: the expert salesperson, just selling her side, and it's such 466 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: a rare opportunity. We're never down this way, you know, 467 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: So can you just make it happen for me? You 468 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: know she got the sale. This is so complicated for 469 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: me because I also love Christopher. I love Look, Luke 470 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: is my guy, you know that. Like, I have a 471 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: total crush on Luke. It's embarrassing when I watch it. 472 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I am able to separate Scott from Luke 473 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: because I am like hot for Luke and I know 474 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: that's creepy, but I am no, it's why is it creepy. 475 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: It's not creepy, but because you're still the guy who 476 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: played Luke is fascinating. Of course you're smitten. But I 477 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: love Christopher. I love everything about Christopher. There's one fashion 478 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: moment that I didn't like, which i'll reveal at the end. 479 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: But I love Christopher. I love the way he banters, 480 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: I love the I love that Richard and Emily adore him. 481 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: I love everything about Christopher. So maybe that's also why 482 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't like Sherry, because I don't want Sherry with Christopher. 483 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm gonna say it right now. I don't 484 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: want her with him at all. And I didn't like 485 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: it when he had her before we saw her and 486 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I and I I don't want it. But he can't 487 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: handle Laurela. He will never be able to handle Laurela. 488 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: He can't. He needs Sherry. He needs Sherry. He's the 489 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: unstable one. He needs a stable adult woman to guide him. 490 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: That's exactly he needs a mommy, and that's that's exactly 491 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: what he got. That's what he needs. They aren't equals, 492 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, from what I have seen, personality wise. 493 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I don't know, but she's making him grow up. 494 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: She's forcing him to grow up. And it doesn't seem 495 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: natural for us to see Christopher that way. I mean, 496 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: he's really got it together. He's dressed really sharp, he's 497 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: looking good, he's saying all the right things. He's being 498 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: cool right Volvo motorcycle. Christopher's changing, She's affecting these changes. 499 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be sad if she goes. I'm saying, Laura, 500 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: I needs a guy that's just going to allow her 501 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: to be her, not getting her way. It's obviously Luke, 502 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: but we have to be patient. Laurla is grounded and 503 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: who she is. She's very comfortable in her own skain. 504 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: She's there's not a lot of self doubt in her life. 505 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean she's already sort of gazed at her navel 506 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: for you know, ten thousand hours and contemplated, undazed her 507 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: fate right and how she got there. I mean, she's 508 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: a she's a you know, she's a she's a self 509 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: self analytical person. She's highly intelligent. She Christopher cannot hang 510 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: with her, and he never could. It doesn't matter. But 511 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: it's so far off. And look, I'm not saying Looke's 512 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: a perfect guy. I'm not this is not me advocating 513 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: for Look, I'm just saying that she needs somebody to 514 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: let her be herself. Okay, so let me ask you this. 515 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. There're on a lot of 516 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: guys out there like that, Max or Christopher. Forget Luke again, 517 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: there is no Luke. Who do you think was better 518 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: or is better for Lorlie? Max or Christopher? Yeah? Yeah, 519 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: no because because Max, I don't know. I loved Max, 520 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: but no, Christopher is way more for her. Thanks, No, 521 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. So I have a seriously hot topic 522 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. But first, how heck funny 523 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: wasn't when they were trying to get a look see 524 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: at share the tissue? Yeah, Melissa, Melissa was very funny. 525 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought the way she held her 526 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: hand out and dropped the tissue was a little obvious 527 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: because if Sherry saw it, it it would be like, Okay, 528 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: she's checking out. Wanted to do you think that choice? 529 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: She was so genius? Ohlisa, Yeah, it's the first time 530 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: I left in the episode was one Melissa said that 531 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: the first line She's then, oh, I forget Oh you 532 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: have a very smooth dress. So good. Do you want 533 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 1: my hot topic now or like, do you want to 534 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: go to commercial? And then I'll tell you. Now, let's 535 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: go to commercial. All right, we'll be back after these words, ladies, 536 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: and gent's yea all everybody, We're back to Amy's got 537 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: a hot topic. She's gonna share it with us. We've 538 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: been waiting with baby breath. What is it? This is 539 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: not it? But also, did anyone notice how does Lorela 540 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: always get such amazing parking at Chilton? Like? I don't 541 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: buy it? Why is that jeep always literally parked right 542 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: in front of because it's not a parking space and 543 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: she's parking there illegally. She's just making it. Yes, because 544 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: she's Laurela and she's good. She's gonna park anywhere she wants. 545 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: See what I mean, that's her personality. I'm gonna park 546 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: anywhere I want. I hope I find a guy that 547 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: lets me park anywhere I want. There my hot topic 548 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: for you. I need you all to discuss this. Emily. 549 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: What do we make of her meltdown? Was it so like? Yes, 550 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: it was totally over the top, But what do you 551 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: make of it? Break it down? I need to know 552 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: what Emily is on her track? She wants what she 553 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: wants she's disappointed. She's holding out hope for all these years, 554 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: fifteen years. She can't make adjustments. People that age just 555 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 1: do not make those kinds of adjustments. Um, a mother, 556 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't even anything to do with age, it's just, 557 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, her heart wants her daughter her. Emily's definition 558 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: of success is raising a daughter that ends up with 559 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: a guy Christopher, and they have Friday night dinners and 560 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: they have children, and they all go to the country 561 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: club and they play golf, and then they go to 562 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: Switzerland in the winter for a week ist gang and 563 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: you know that, they go down to Palm Beach for 564 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: a week and they you know what, they hopped up. 565 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: So it's if that, I mean, that is the good life. 566 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: She wants the good life for her daughter because she 567 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: wants the good life for herself, because she can't enjoy 568 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: her life fully without her daughter involved. That's her daughter. Mhmm, 569 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: she doesn't have it. I mean, Laurel is an only child, right, 570 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: So you know what you were talking about Rory wanting 571 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: her parents together absolutely more than Rory. Emily wants those 572 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: two together exactly. She is just holding on to every 573 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: bit of hope that it can happen. Yeah, Emily doesn't 574 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: see that those two are not suited for one of them. 575 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: That it was truly that, it was truly understand. I 576 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: apologize for saying, but she lost her when she realized 577 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: what the He's got another girlfriend and it's like her 578 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: dream was like slipping away from her in front of 579 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: her eyes, and she lost it. I don't blame her first, 580 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: it was the lack of courtesy for not calling her 581 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: and telling her about or not attending um it's it's 582 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: just another example of Yeah, she did. She cared that 583 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: her daughter deceptively behind her back change plans, didn't consult 584 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: her and didn't Christopher didn't have a girlfriend. She wouldn't 585 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: have cared. She cared only she would have cared. She 586 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't have cared that much, but she would have cared. 587 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: She was pissed because she doesn't want Rory with this woman. Yeah. 588 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: One it's shattering her dream of Christopher and Laura being together, 589 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: and two, she doesn't want this woman having anything to 590 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: do with her granddaughter. Look, Sherry is not stupid. She 591 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: got warned, She knew what she was walking into, she 592 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: knew she had to get As Emily said, her claws 593 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: into Rory fast because Rory is the key to this, right, 594 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: and she wanted to and and she executed. She's Sherry 595 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: is just trying to survive because she wants that man. 596 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: She wants Christopher, she really does. That might be a 597 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: step up for her, right in class, never know, right 598 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: everything of that. You know, Christopher's cute. I mean Christopher, 599 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: Christopher comes from real money, doesn't he That fact doesn't 600 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: change because he's, you know, a little bit of a loser, right, 601 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: He's not because because Sherry came into his life and 602 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: change at listen, the right woman really changes your perspective 603 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: on things, and can really, you know, can really really 604 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: make your life happen. You know, it's it's hugely important 605 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: to have a healthy, happy relationship. And if you're how 606 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: did Emily's meltdown land on you, guys? I think I think, honestly, 607 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: it may have been triggering for Emily because she thought 608 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: of Laura La and Mia. Maybe she was thinking Rory 609 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: would go with Sherry and like Laura Lee would lose Rory. 610 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: Like she maybe thought it was like history repeating itself 611 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: of Laura Lee maybe losing Rory to Sherry. It's not 612 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: a terrible like observation. Yeah, and she did say the 613 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, I'll never see Rory again. I mean, 614 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: the real key to this is seeing Rory. She wants 615 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: to see your granddaughter. I had two theories so that 616 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. Um. She is 617 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: finally close with Rory and now she doesn't want another 618 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: woman getting in the way, you know, like stealing that time, 619 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: stealing that attention, hanging out with her like she wants 620 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: that with Rory, and she feels threatened a little bit. Listen, 621 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: she's justified and getting pisted laure Ali for that. That 622 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: is her time. She made a deal on paying for 623 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: your daughter's school. It's probably fifty bucks fifty thousand bucks 624 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: a year plus plus, right, so we're talking seventy because 625 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: you know they're going to donate money to make sure 626 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: Rory gets into Harvard. Yeah, you can be at a 627 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: hundred veries even back then. So you know that is 628 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: her time. You're right, Danielle, that is her time that 629 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: she paid for, that she deserves, that she earned. And 630 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: how dare somebody just ripped Rory away from her for 631 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: some strange woman that's after Christophy. I mean, it was 632 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's the ticket. It's Emily would not 633 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: have been mad. If Rory had a school thing or 634 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: was with Paris, she would have liked. She wouldn't have 635 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: liked it, but she wouldn't have cared. I think if 636 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: there's a school dance, she would have been fine with it. 637 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: She doesn't want Rory with this other woman. She doesn't 638 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: want Christopher this with this other woman, and she doesn't 639 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: want la allowing this right. She doesn't want Laura allowed 640 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: to be so blind she doesn't even see what's going on. Yeah, 641 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, it was hilarious, the slow 642 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: build to the meltdown when she's like, I had hold 643 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 1: off on buying a place with this one and lots 644 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: of mold. You know, then those scores kill you very slowly. 645 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: Do you how much Richard and Emily love Christopher. No, 646 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: not at all. I mean, it's the it's in their minds. 647 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: It's the best thing for Rory, and it's the probably 648 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: it's the only way to keep Laurel I on straight 649 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: and narrow right. And Richard is just waiting, waiting to 650 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: help Christopher, waiting to get him into the family so 651 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: that he can get him in the insurance business at 652 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: a higher level than he would normally go in and begin. 653 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: Richard would would have guaranteed Christopher be successful in that 654 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: field and give Laureli. They go to the country club together, 655 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: they play golf together. He and he likes Christopher, He 656 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: really likes them. So yes, yeah, he's he's their breed, 657 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, of the manner Born And uh wow, what 658 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: a good episode it really was. And you know, we 659 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: haven't even got to the funny stuff. I mean it was. 660 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: It was the most deliciously funny smart stuff hit him 661 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: the home run running around, what the what the c 662 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: D drop? Yeah, they borrowed it from a film, right, 663 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: I mean I love it when they do that and 664 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: they take these iconic film scenes and they put him 665 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: in the show. I mean, it's it really isn't homage. 666 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: It's not stealing Kirk. I mean, but can we talk 667 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: wait a minute, can we talk about how flipping crazy 668 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: Mrs Kim is. She doubles down. I mean, after that 669 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: impactful scene with her daughter realizing, I mean she didn't 670 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: she didn't even have a moment of reflection. Thing. Maybe 671 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm I need to pull back on this stuff a 672 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: little bit. As she doubles down and punishes her in 673 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: grounds or for how long pulled her out of school? 674 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: And it's playing records of psalms. I mean, what what 675 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: is happening? That woman is out of her off her 676 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: go word? What was the first thing that came into 677 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: your mind when Lane says like her mom mentioned she 678 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: was contagious, all of a sudden, I was like, she's coronavirus. Well, 679 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: what about the debate topic? You know, I'm worried about Lane. 680 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what's going to happen in 681 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: the future, but I'm and I know nothing really bad 682 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: can happen in the future, but you know, these are 683 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: the kinds of kids that sort of contemplate taking their 684 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: own lives to get Yeah, but I mean if you 685 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: have a parent like that, who's that oppressive? I mean, 686 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: my god, it where it really worries me. And uh, 687 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, I know nothing bad is going to happen, 688 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: But that's the form that's a recipe right there for disaster, 689 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: not not Yeah, I think that you are being very 690 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: accurate about that. That like, because this is a comedy 691 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: drama and that's the comedy part. We can make light 692 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: of it. But like in the the world. Yeah, that's 693 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: a different movie. And as an independent film, that relationship 694 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: right there, that's a very heavy movie. That's a tax 695 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: having minding these plumbing, these emotional depths in this show. 696 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: It's comedic relief, like comic really, yeah, comic relief, comic. 697 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right because I'm not making light of 698 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: what you just said, like you're accurate. In a different circumstance, 699 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: that would be a little bit. You know, she's literally 700 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: trapped in her room. It's very strange. It's very strange. 701 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Mrs Kim doubled down on the punishment instead 702 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: of saying, oh, I screwed up and had a moment 703 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: of a real honesty with herself like this, I did 704 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: this to my daughter, and I screwed my daughter up, 705 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: and I screwed myself up. And Henry Cho was gone 706 00:43:51,880 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: and debate topic what a very serious debate coating assistant 707 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: soon settled, right. I don't know I would have been 708 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: sweating like that kid when when Paris said and we're pro, 709 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: and you know the kid that was melting down says shocker. 710 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I thought the quippy, funny lines were 711 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: so beautifully set up in this episode because the drama. 712 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: The drama was so heightened in this episode. Everything was 713 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: so taught that those jokes really really resonated. I mean 714 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: they're running around cleaning, cleaning, the house closing. Do you 715 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: have anything to serve them? You have to serve people things. 716 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: We had the leftover Halloween candy. We don't want to 717 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: waste that on that, and then it was out. Did 718 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: you guys see that it was out? Anything like he 719 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: didn't want anything? Yeah, at the candy like an okay 720 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: date on that? Okay, what else before we wrapped this? 721 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: What else? What else? Okay, here's my question. Should it 722 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: have been Laurel? So that's the title of the episode. 723 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: It should have been Laurel. Yes, it should have been 724 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: Laurel I. But then there wouldn't have been a show. 725 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: It would have been a really boring, major network sort 726 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: of drama or something that was so light in the 727 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: asset nobody could wash it. That would probably been a 728 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: big hit. It would be you know, you know what 729 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what would it have been. It would have 730 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: been called you know, I don't know. It would have 731 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: been called the Gilmore's or something like that. You know, 732 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: opening scene would be at the eighteenth hole. Oh Richard, 733 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: you know I, oh yeah, another hundred grand on that one, 734 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: nice pot pal. You know, how's Laurela doing. She's fantatic. 735 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, it would have been that show, right, It 736 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: would not have been a quirky mother daughter drama. It 737 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: would not have been as delightful and charming as this show. 738 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: So it should not have been Laurel. I that's the 739 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: point of Gilmore Girls. I was just about to say that. 740 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: I've it shouldn't have been Lorelie. And the reason why 741 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: I vote that way is I think they're great young 742 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: love story. Like I love that story, and I just 743 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: I don't think I see them in their forties. I 744 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: think it was young love. They had a baby, and 745 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: they get each other and they get all their you know, 746 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: little little things about them, and they know each other 747 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: more than anyone else, like childhood friends do. But that's 748 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: where it ends. That's where it ends. It's almost too familiar, right, 749 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: it's too familiar. There's a big, big world out there 750 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: full of really interesting people. And you know, he's you know, 751 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: the show should have been called um should it should 752 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: have been Christopher? And no, it should not have been 753 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of an insult to Laurel life. Yeah, I 754 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: think I think yes. I think you say yes to Laurel, 755 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: I you know at the time, but you say no 756 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: to Christopher about the same same amount of times. I think. 757 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: My take on it is it should have been Laurelie. 758 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: My response is too soon to tell. I don't think so. 759 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: I think the jury is in. Riley, you have the 760 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: final vote. I agree with Danielle on this one, three 761 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: to one against the sugar shark Amy. Sugar shack opening. 762 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: And you can still be best friends, best friends, you know, 763 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: but things, best friends, co parenting. Just you know that 764 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,479 Speaker 1: the relationship had its moment. He leads with her heart. 765 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: Don't falter for that. She leads with her heart. Yeah, 766 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: I stand strong on it. To be continued, Amy's mad, 767 00:47:53,560 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: She's like, whatever, guys favorite lines? Amy, what's your favorite line? 768 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: I wonder? I mean, I really that tickled me. But 769 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: there are a lot of them, and you know, just 770 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: one of those weird lulls happens occasionally. I was in 771 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: there on that one too. Right. Oh, I'm sorry, I 772 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: don't speak geek right right right, outer limits Riley favorite 773 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: line I love When I was talking about her humor 774 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: and she goes. Yeah, it comes and goes. You'll learn, 775 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: You'll learn to see the signs. Danielle, I stand by. 776 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: You have a very smooth dress, smooth address. Yeah. Suk's line, Um, god, 777 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't know favorite line. There were so many, there 778 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: were so many. I Kenny, what was what was? You know? 779 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 1: It's gotta It's gotta be Michelle. I thought, Michelle showed 780 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: up and stole the episode. It's like the Evil Girl 781 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: get Away from the Evil Girl. Absolutely absolutely loved Paris 782 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: at the door and she's all, can I come in 783 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: and guess? And then Laurel I went to the bedroom 784 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: to see what was going on, and and and Paris 785 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: got This was by far the most layer, the most intricate, 786 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: the funniest, the most dramatic, the highest level of drama, 787 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: the highest level of comedy of any episode I've seen 788 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: so far. I thought this was the ultimate episode. Um, 789 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: are they actually going to top this? I mean, does 790 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: this show this good? Yes? It is. Wow, I'm very impressed. 791 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 1: I am very very impressed. Well, the next episode we're 792 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: gonna get into, number fifteen is called Lost and Found, 793 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 1: So everybody out there, best fans in the world, please 794 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: watch that. And we will opine on it UH soon anyway, 795 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: I want to thank uh Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis the 796 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: newly crowned queen a podcasting pop culture UH, and Amy Sugarman, 797 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 1: who is still putting the flames out around her in 798 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: her own house. Be okay, alright, guys, have a good one, uh, 799 00:50:30,560 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: and everybody stay safe out there. 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