1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Readings listeners. 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: My name is Max and I'm Ben, and this is 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. Nice. Nice. I 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: like how it's a little bit different every time with 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: the music as well. Uh, then it's it's different every time, 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: and it's never a disaster. I saw something that I 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: think is going to be a disaster recently on television 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: met Yes, well now it America's got talent. Uh it 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: was close. It was you know, I don't have cable, right, 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: I do have Netflix, and uh I'll sometimes watch things 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: online on Hulu. So I was watching this thing on Hulu, 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and Hulu has a bunch of commercial right, sure, commercials 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: for days. We had this one commercial that freaked me 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: out a little man. It was. It was a McDonald's commercial. 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: And this McDonald's commercial, they say, oh you love coca cola, Well, 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: guess what, all coca cola is going to be one dollar, 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: whether it's a small, a medium, or a large, just 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: one dollar. Now I think of that more as a 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: a perhaps a health disaster for some people, because why 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: would you pay a dollar for the small one? Yeah? 23 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Is it? Uh is? Does the same thing go with 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: the water? I don't know. God, I guess no one 25 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: really orders super sized water. I do if i'm if 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I've got rehearsal for band, I go when I get 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: the largest bottle of water I can possibly get, and 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: then I use it for the next couple of weeks 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: until I feel the plastic has been used enough starts 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: to taste of plastic. Um. Well, the disasters aside, and 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: do let us know what you think about this weird 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: Coca cola manns um those sorts of disasters side rather, 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: you and I are here to ask a question that 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: we have talked about in our video series UH for years, 35 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: literally in many different ways. Right, Yes, can humans, in 36 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form create natural disasters, or at 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: least disasters that would normally be naturally occurring. Okay, so 38 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: natural disasters? Then what what kind of stuff would that be? 39 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: What would be a natural disaster? You're looking at everything 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: from hurricanes to earthquakes. Those are the two probably main occurrences. 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: There are also tornadoes, tsunamis right, It's just anything you 42 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: can think of that would be a natural disaster. Is 43 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: there a way that a human could harness the power 44 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: to make one of those volcanic eruption right? Yes, we 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: see that in science fiction or thriller films sometimes where 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: there's some supervillain who is setting out to, you know, 47 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: make all all of the world's volcanoes erupted once or something. 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: That's also where they keep their layers. So I'm a 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: little confused about why they would want the things that 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: are right next to their layer to explode. I don't 51 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: have to find a good caldera or really the moon 52 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: base is the way to go. But we're differentiating here 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: between things that would be manmade disasters. Manmade disasters would 54 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: be things like a financial crash, you know, like the 55 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Great Depression um A, in many ways a manmade disaster. Now, 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: of course, I know a lot of people can write 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: in and say the drought created the dust bowl. Um 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Also financial handling by people in urban sitting in urban 59 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: environments and financial centers of the time. Uh, their their 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: behavior didn't help. I think it accelerated it. So we 61 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: we do know that human beings have have it well 62 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: within our collective grasp to make disasters for ourselves. Um, well, sure, war. 63 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: War creates a type of disaster. Yeah, war, that's that's 64 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: a great example. That's one of the best examples. UM. 65 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Diseases that spread via humans that could be a disaster. 66 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: Uh there there there are numerous things. UM. Pollution sites 67 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: can be disastrous. Um. History class our our buddies over it. 68 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: Stuff you miss and History class have a couple of 69 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: great podcasts about very strange disasters that occurred, uh, such 70 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: as molasses flood or a flood of I think it 71 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: was gin somewhere in London. It sounds familiar, man, I 72 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: need to catch up on that show. Human beings, let's 73 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: just put out human beings have a propensity for making 74 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: trouble and getting into hijinks. But aside from these things, 75 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the question is if humans could create natural disasters and I, 76 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: like they said, in some way, then how would these 77 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: things be created? Like? How? How? What? What's something that 78 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: people bring up when they talk about this and the 79 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: tools that could be possibly used to make these things? Well, 80 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: one of the most popular ones is the high frequency 81 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: Active Auroral Research Program or HARP. You've seen it before, 82 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: You've seen it on YouTube all over the place. We've 83 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: covered it many times. We just did another video on it. 84 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: It's this research station in Alaska and Cocona, Alaska. I 85 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: believe well that this is one of the main HARP stations. 86 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: There are numerous stations that throughout the world that have 87 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the same research Crown Jewel that the Air Force zones. Yes, 88 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: and I believe it was the original UH station, the 89 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: HARP station. I'm not sure if that's correct that we 90 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: know about. Yes, And it is unclassified right yet, and 91 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: it's run by the Air Force, I believe, I can't remember. 92 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: I think the Navy had a hand in it at 93 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: one point in partnership with a couple of other organizations. 94 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: And currently it may be sold to the University of 95 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Alaska if they're willing to come up with the scratch 96 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: something like five million dollars just to run the thing 97 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: for a year, and that's just to make it work, 98 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: and they're what the What HART does is it shoots 99 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: radio beams into the ionosphere, which is a way out 100 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: of the way place in the atmosphere that a lot 101 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: of human beings really don't have any call to ever 102 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: reach unless we're going through it on the way to space. Yeah, 103 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: and when you when you think about the ionosphere and 104 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong here, Ben, when you see 105 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen the northern or southern lights, that's 106 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the that's the that's activity that's occurring inside the ionosphere 107 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: when these charged particles are being active, aided essentially by 108 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the sun. Right and HARP managed to the HARP and Gatona, 109 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Alaska managed to create the first recorded artificial aurora borealis, 110 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: which was which was really neat. I do have to say, though, 111 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: there's a little bone of contention I have with some 112 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: of our YouTube listeners said, you know, they're HARP stations everywhere. 113 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: That's not correct. There are, I honest, spheric research stations everywhere. 114 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: They are not HARP. That's like saying you know that. 115 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of like saying there's a Toyota Corolla in Gacona, Alaska, 116 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: and there are cars in other places, So there are 117 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Toyota Corollas across the world. Okay, I see what you're saying. 118 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: At one point before we continue here, now, HARP itself 119 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: closed down, but it's not unusual for it to close down. 120 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: We have a lot of this stuff in our video 121 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: on HARP. Our latest video. One of my favorite titles uh, 122 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: what what the hell is going on at HARP or 123 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: what the hell are they doing at HARP or something 124 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: like that, something to that effect. And in there we 125 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: talk about the HARP station. There are other ion spheric 126 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: research facilities in the world across the world, but they 127 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: are not the HARP that we're harping on. I know, 128 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: I know, well they're okay, So this is the I 129 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: don't know what else I can say about this UM. 130 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: It's just it's fascinating to think it kind of harkens 131 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: back to the ideas of Tesla at least that's what 132 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: what that's what rings in my head when I think 133 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: about HARP and testing the ionosphere and what can you 134 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: do with it, although it has nothing to do with well, 135 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: at least to my knowledge, has nothing to do with 136 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: somehow connecting electrically to the ionosphere the way Tesla wanted to. Man, 137 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to republish that Tesla video soon, aren't we. Yeah, yeah, 138 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to do a whole new video on Tesla 139 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: UM because there's a lot of interest in it. And 140 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, that was one of the situations where we 141 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: found there really was perhaps some stuff they don't want 142 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: you to know. And before we move on from the 143 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: subject of heart well, we we should point out that Matt, 144 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: as you said, it's not it's not a top secret 145 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: facility like Groom Lake, you know, or like the UM 146 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: whatever is happening on Diego Garcia, Right. This is this 147 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: is a place where while it was open, scientists would 148 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: be glad to give you knowledge. I'm sure there were 149 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: some things that were classified, but they would they would 150 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: be glad to give you a look at what they 151 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: were doing, talk to you about it if they had time. Uh. 152 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: You I don't know if you could just go up 153 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: there and get a tour. But it had a chain 154 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: leak fence around it. It's not a high value target 155 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. The research that they were doing, 156 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: if we understand it correctly, is to see how changes 157 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: in the ionosphere can affect communication. That's one of the 158 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: big things. So this is big because it goes into 159 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: stuff like how uh an I CBM and inter intercontinental 160 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: ballistic missile would be able to guide itself or stay 161 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: guided right, uh, how radio communications could be altered or 162 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: even satellite and for it to affect the weather. What 163 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: what we were finding is that it would have to 164 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: be just from the kind of equipment to have, it 165 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: would have to be on a much more massive scale. Yes, 166 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: And it seems like it seems like at least the 167 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: Heart facility there in Gakona was not large enough to really, 168 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: uh you know, really shape the foundations of the Earth 169 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: and change the weather. But we have other ways of 170 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: changing the weather, and they're very old. They go back 171 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: to like World War One and stuff. Right, So what's 172 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: the what's the theoretical side? If if everything we do 173 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: know about Heart that's publicly available is smoke and mirrors, 174 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: smoke on the water right table at the oldies song, 175 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: then what what are the theories about Heart? So there 176 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: are several. One of the main ones that you hear 177 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: a lot is that it can somehow shoot an energy beam, 178 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: a radio energy beam into the ionosphere and then somehow 179 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: change the direction or by angling that beam in a 180 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: certain way two have it kind of arc around the 181 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Earth and then come back down in a certain spot, 182 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: and then in that spot the ion sphere because it 183 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: has a connection with plate Earth movements, with tectonic movements, 184 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: um well, at least the tectonic movements seem to affect 185 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: the ionosphere, which does not necessarily mean the iono sphere 186 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: affects the tectonic movements. However, in this theory, because of 187 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: they've kind of aimed the iono sphere and changed it 188 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a little bit and sent it downwards into the Earth, 189 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: it would create an earthquake in that position, right, And 190 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: we know that, as we said in our in our 191 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: videos that our our buddies moch Mood odd Menajade and 192 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Ugo Chavez did say that bit sarcastically. Both um both 193 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten alleged that Harp directly was 194 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 1: involved with UH what was involved with creating natural disasters? 195 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: I think Amnijad, as we say in our video, UH 196 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: blamed the Pakistan floods on it, and Chavez blamed the 197 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: Haitian earthquake and um, well, and you made a great 198 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: point then that that one facility perhaps doesn't have the 199 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: power to do something to that effect. Is it possible 200 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: that there's a massive facility somewhere else, or what if 201 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these ionospheric testing facilities are working together? 202 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Ben Like, honestly, what if what if there are several 203 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: ionospheric testing facilities, say they're a couple in Europe somewhere. 204 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: There are a couple in Asia, couple in the US. 205 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: They all work together. Whoa man not bad? Not bad? 206 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Idea a networked disaster club, right, highly improbable, but it 207 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: would be fascinating possible. I don't know you and I 208 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: haven't been everywhere. We'd have to go check it all 209 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: out first. One thing that we do know that sounds 210 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: crazy but is completely true, and we've covered this before 211 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: as well, is whether modification and this can relate to 212 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: natural disasters. But walk with us here for a second, 213 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: so you can shoot It turns out you can shoot 214 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: silver I had died into the sky. And although there 215 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: are varying degrees of success, there's a lot of healthy 216 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: skepticism about this. Uh. It seems that it has the 217 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: potential to create rain clouds. Well yes, but you you 218 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: certainly need the moisture in the air already in order 219 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: to make it happen. And it's something like forty I 220 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: think this success rate was less yeah, yeah, less more 221 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: than five. Uh, they've been they, being human beings history, 222 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: have tried to work with this existing technology and find 223 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: different ways to modify the weather. However, we know that 224 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: when experiments began with it in the United Kingdom. Uh, 225 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: there were reports that have triggered flooding. We know that 226 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: the largest weather modification network in the world, at least 227 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: the one that the public knows about, is in China. 228 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: And Uh there are people who have part time jobs 229 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: where they just shoot uh silver I died into the 230 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: clouds and hope that this could, hope that this could somehow, 231 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, uh, provide favorable rain conditions for their local area. However, 232 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: we know that when when water gathers in one place, 233 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: it comes from somewhere right, So it's completely possible now 234 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: whether modification passed a certain threshold will create a situation 235 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: in which we will see, uh an increase in things 236 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: like droughts, or maybe an increase in frequency of flooding 237 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: or things like that. Because we're messing with the system, 238 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: we don't understand. I know how b movie that sounds, 239 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: but it's true, which brings us to the other point. 240 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Climate change, man, climate change, climate change, global warming. It 241 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: used to be called and somebody won the buzzword war. 242 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Somebody bernased it into a climate change instead of global warming. Yeah, 243 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: because it was so cold less I use bernais as 244 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: a verb. Now, Yeah, I don't think it sounds it 245 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: sounds like a sauce. So this is a massive topic. 246 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: This is a topic that I'm sure you, whoever you 247 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,479 Speaker 1: are listening of this, you have some very strong opinions 248 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: about climate change. And it's tough for us because you know, 249 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Ben and I want to learn the truth as or 250 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: at least as close to the truth as we can 251 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: possibly learn. That's what this show is about, and we 252 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: want to be able to tell it to you. The 253 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: problem is when you've got these extremely strong opinions, no 254 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: matter what you and I say, or what even the 255 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: science says, some people's minds will never be changed. Well, 256 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: let's present the gist. Okay, here's the gist. Uh. We've 257 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: got one side which says that there's one side that 258 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: says that human intervention is making a measurable impact in 259 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: the world. Of the primary arguments for a lot of 260 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: climate change stuff concern the effects of the human population 261 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: on the atmosphere. Right, so c O two emissions, Uh 262 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: get caught up in this. But you'll also hear stuff 263 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: about damage to the ozone layer, um, the amount of 264 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: pollution minted by factories and by motor vehicles, factory farming. Right, 265 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, and and livestock, which are uh. 266 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: On our show, one of our other show's car stuff, 267 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: we have a great episode about whether whether cows or 268 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: cars are more responsible for pollution. Yeah, it's a really 269 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: weird thing to walk through, but I recommend if someone's 270 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: interest in that. So what what we have found is, UM. 271 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: We have found is that for a long time, the 272 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: people tied up in the research on this at invested 273 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: interest in some cases an agenda. There are cases where 274 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: evidence that didn't fit an official narrative was repressed. Um. 275 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: And in most of the cases that I've heard, this 276 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: was evidence where scientists would say, well, uh, we have 277 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: found this rise in temperature over this time. It correlates 278 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: to factors X, Y, and z. They're for we think 279 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: that human beings are having an effect. And then the 280 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: people who were funding the study you didn't want to 281 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: hear that, so they said, Okay, you know, go do 282 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: the math again. Yeah, just go do the math again 283 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: and if you want to keep your job. But then 284 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: on the other side, we have people who say that 285 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: there is a concentrated active conspiracy to propagate this idea 286 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: of enormous cataclysmic environmental change and that this, uh, this 287 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: is happening because there is um this is happening because 288 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: it's a way to scare people into giving up their 289 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: means of production, which would make it easier. A lot 290 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: of these ideas are tied up into the concept of 291 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: a one world government, new World order sort of thing. 292 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: The question then becomes one of scale. So the argument 293 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: here against climate change is often, you know, human beings 294 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: cannot do enough. We're not big enough really to affect 295 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: the great machine that is the world. Um you know, 296 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: just like harp is not big enough really to affect 297 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: the great machine that is the ionosphere. And and it's 298 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: strange because there can be there can be some contradictory 299 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: reasoning there. There can be people who don't believe that 300 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: climate change is real, but do believe that HARP controls 301 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: the weather, and so it's an interesting cognitive distance. But 302 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: one thing we do know is that when we talk 303 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: about scale, we're not just talking about amount to people 304 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: versus size of the world. We're talking about time of people. 305 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: So agriculture can cause climate change as well, because we're 306 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: changing the types of plants, are changing, type of livestock 307 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: that interact in a biome. So it's not necessarily a 308 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: worldwide climate change, right. Human beings can be possibly responsible 309 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: for things like desertification, where the desert just starts eating places, right, 310 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: and erosion. Human beings can clearly be responsible for erosion. 311 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Climate change is not just a matter of calculating pollution, right. Um, 312 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: So there's the other part, and I know I'm going 313 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: on rant here, Matt, there's another part the here that 314 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: comes in with this, um, speaking of scale, the world's 315 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: climate system is extraordinarily complex. We don't really know what's 316 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: going on with it. Meteorologists are scarily accurate. Um within 317 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, the short term before or after stuff, but 318 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: the further out you go, there just so many variables 319 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: that we don't really understand the system in which we're participating. 320 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: And whenever there is a huge chance for unintended consequences, 321 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: it usually means that there's not a clear cut, clean answer. 322 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: But human beings on the whole have already been changing 323 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: the you know, the quote unquote climate. The way in 324 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: which it's focused now, the way in which the debate 325 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: is framed, is designed to fool the average member of 326 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: the public into just dwelling on one aspect of how 327 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: human beings influenced the world, and um, could that create disasters? 328 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I would just have to say, Ben, after listening 329 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: to Bill nye on talking on multiple things and people 330 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: like Nil deGrasse Tyson and other other people in the 331 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: field of science, that I respect their opinions, I would say, 332 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: because I am not a climatologist and not scientists. I 333 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: didn't go to school for any of that, um, so 334 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: it's difficult for me to really give an opinion that 335 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: in any way matters in any shape or form um. However, 336 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: I would say that from what I've learned from them, 337 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: the prevailing science says that that humans are affecting the 338 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: overall biome and the climate on the Earth. And the 339 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: conspiracy side would most definitely be that there are interests 340 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: in the energy field that would rather maintain the status 341 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: quo of you know, burning fossil fuels in our vehicles 342 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: and you know, having coal factories, clean coal factories, large farms. Yeah, 343 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: I think I think that would be the conspiracy side 344 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: in I also I also think that at this point 345 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any compelling evidence of a attempts to 346 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: fake global warming, your climate change. I have seen compelling 347 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: evidence of attempts to suppress that that sort of ongoing research. Um. 348 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: And speaking of the interaction between business and science, Uh, 349 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: there's another thing that we did that we found out 350 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: was a truth is Stranger than action situation, right, Yes, 351 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: the and in our attempts to extract as much oil 352 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: as possible from the earth and natural gas and natural gas, 353 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: we've decided to come up with this thing called fracking. 354 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: And that's at least what we call it hydraulic fracturing. 355 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: And it's essentially it's a fairly simple well, it's not 356 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: a simple process. Obviously, it costs a lot of money. 357 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: It's complicated, but the idea is simple. You send down 358 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: a drill into the earth, into rocks, and then you 359 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: you force this highly pressurized liquid which is hydraulic liquid 360 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: and chemicals, waters and a couple of chemicals some I 361 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: think methylenes or something ease yes, and you force the 362 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: rocks to break open. You frack those rocks right open, 363 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: and that releases some of the natural gas that's trapped 364 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: in there, and the oil and the oil and all 365 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: the great things that you can burn for profit. So 366 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: there's an ongoing debate, you know this, Uh, this does 367 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: pose a risk to groundwater because it is forcing things 368 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: that are dangerous for human consumption into the ground and 369 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: through the water table deep into the ground. And UM, 370 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: the argument is there are safe way there, there are 371 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: safe ways to do it. How do you do it? 372 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: There are these wells wherein the used liquid is stored. Uh. 373 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: There are also some fairly compelling studies that surprise breaking 374 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: the breaking the rocks, under the under the mountains, under 375 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: the towns, under the cities, and the fields. UH that 376 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: this can make the ground unstables. Who who to thunk? 377 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: And it can make well? It can. The problem is 378 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: that UM, we can only estimate how much how much 379 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: the effect it would be in a lot of ways. 380 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: So it is possible that fracking can induce earthquakes, which 381 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: makes it a man made natural disaster. UM not the 382 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: same way that harp or UH. Going back to the 383 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: network of ionospheric UH, which is diabolical. I love it, 384 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: um if if it's not that same level, but it is. 385 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: It is possible, and in some cases people have already 386 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: started tracing fracking to earthquake events. I think specifically in 387 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: two thousand eight two thousand nine. Have a question though 388 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: about what what we have on Our outline is the 389 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: elephant in the room, Matt, which is human population and 390 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: global development. Are more natural disasters occurring or natural disasters 391 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: becoming more dangerous, more expensive? Or is it just that 392 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: there are more people in more places? Can Can I 393 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: just go with all of the above? Yeah, because well 394 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: sure there if you look at the Haiti earthquake, the 395 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: recent Haiti earthquake, there's so many people living just a 396 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: ton of people living in structures that are dangerous when 397 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: there's an earthquake, um, and that's how a lot of 398 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: people get hurt. Maybe if you live in a place 399 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: that is not prepared from a technology or an infrastructure 400 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: standpoint for this kind of natural disaster. If a hurricane 401 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: rolls through or a giant tornado rolls through in the 402 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: buildings in which a large group of people are living 403 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: in are not prepared for that, then that's how you 404 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: get disasters. That's how you get deaths, at least lots 405 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: of deaths. So it's yeah, that's I think that's a 406 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: very good point. We have more and more people, and 407 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: they're increasingly moving, so formerly inhospitable environments or environments that 408 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: are trans transitioning to an inhospitable state now because of 409 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: all the other people who were there. Uh, A lot 410 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: of the air in India and China is filthy on 411 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: a lot of the contamination problems that we sort of 412 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: kicked the can down the road on for a few 413 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: for a few decades, right are coming back to bite 414 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: us because people are moving into those areas. And what 415 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: what we're finding then is uh, what we're finding are 416 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: are some weird, ugly truth. One one of the questions 417 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: that I was thinking about asking you is if you 418 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: looked at it objectively, we're listeners that if all of 419 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: us were aliens, right, and everybody who listened to the 420 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: show arrived on a spaceship to check out Earth, would 421 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: we think that humans were the natural disaster? Well, we'd 422 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: probably think of them as a answer of some sort. 423 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has a great speech. Yeah when you he's 424 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: flying over l A and just looking right before he 425 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: got to l A, he's looking at California and the 426 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: beautiful just the way, man, this is an amazing looking planet. 427 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, yeah, the protruding gray, 428 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: just nastiness and smoke. So yeah, Ben, I you know, 429 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: I think about even the matrix lines about humans being 430 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: a virus, and that stuff really resonates with me because 431 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I I don't know. I feel I want to feel 432 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: more connected to the planet a lot of times, and 433 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: most of the time I don't. And I wonder if 434 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: that's just something ingreened or something that we have done 435 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: to ourselves, that we've programmed ourselves to feel separate. Hmm. 436 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: That's a good question, and that's sort of a in 437 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: some ways that sounds like a cultural or psychological disaster. 438 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: I think that what we're going to see over time 439 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: is is that if the technology does exist to create 440 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: natural disasters, to to create you know, gigantic earthquakes, mudslides 441 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: and so on. Um. Oh. Another side fact, North Korea 442 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: was mentioned as one of the places that was victimized 443 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: by natural disaster when they had I think a series 444 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: of floods a few years ago. But if that technology 445 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: um did exist, it would be something that world governments 446 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: and non government agencies or organizations tried to at least 447 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: have access to. We mentioned to quote several times once 448 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: and what the hell is fracking? And once in our 449 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: video on earthquakes, uh that Secretary Defense William Cohen talking 450 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: about the possibilities of future war, including stuff like tailored viruses, right, 451 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: tailored bugs to take out a certain population, right, scared 452 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: stuff and increasingly I won't say probable yet, but increasingly possible. 453 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: And then we've got the other one of the other 454 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: things he mentioned, And he's not the only one to 455 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: mentioned this. Uh. Foreign ministers in Russia mentioned this kind 456 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: of stuff too, the concept of eco terrorism destroying you know, 457 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: which is a which is an idea that goes way 458 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: back to siege days, you know, when you could destroy 459 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: your opponents access to food or clean water, right, or 460 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: just throw plague bodies into the well. That kind of stuff, Um, diabolical. Yeah, 461 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: but now on a worldwide scale. At this point we 462 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: should probably go. It looks like our buddies from a 463 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: stuff Mom never told you, or people are come by 464 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: the studio window and giving us the eye. Josh came 465 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: by a second ago, So we better get out of here. Uh, guys, 466 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode. We didn't have a 467 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: sponsor for this. For some reason, Illumination Global unlim It 468 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: had decided not to sponsor our episode. Um, I don't know, 469 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: maybe it is this is conflicting interests there's conflicting interests. 470 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Just for this episode. They'll be back though. Yeah. Weirdly enough, 471 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: we just got a weather report that says a big 472 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: storm is moving name what oh oh man, you hear that? Yeah, 473 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: we're better, well, Matt. Where can people find us? Hopefully? 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