WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Malie Donn on His New Album + His Journey Thus Far 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.560 What's up his way up at the ANGELA. 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.720 Yeah, I'm here with DJ Nick Sill and we got 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.160 finally Maley down in the building. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.040 What's up on? I love seeing you in New York. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.040 Yeah, you know, had a place to be. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.840 Listen, you got a big week coming up too for you. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.040 The Golden Child definitely all right. So I love the artwork, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:21.480 but I want to talk about that a little bit 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.880 because it's you know, you are the Golden Child, So 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.040 talk about what made you even do that, and then 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:27.200 we'll talk about the title track. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.400 Well, I think that my career has been such a 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:37.320 rough journey. A lot of obstacles that came before me 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.200 coming up. I just think that a lot of fight 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:47.080 that I get is got just build me up. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:48.600 You don't back down either. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.120 I don't know some of us feel like, say, he's 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:58.000 a true in person. So it just give me Daddy 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.160 for coming up with a child. Let's see it. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:01.960 I feel that you feel blessed. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.959 I feel blessed. So that's that's that's what our Golden 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.240 Child comes from. It's just the journey. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.680 As what would you say when you talk about obsticles, 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.440 do you mean just coming where you're from, or like 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.280 just to give us some insights as to what those 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:19.160 obstacles are. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.520 Like, Like where we're coming from. It wasn't really easy 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:28.280 to get out there and for people to know and 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.400 be able to show your talent that you have resources. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.840 A lot of politics in I gem A lot of 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.839 people try Black Valley and them type. I think sophysics 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.279 we overcome certain things and reach to a point where 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.480 voice can be heard and people know who is most 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.640 definitely it is a It is a it is a 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:56.640 chosen feeling, our golden feeling. So right now the journey 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.280 not done yet, but we're right area. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.600 And when did you feel was that time when you 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.800 were like, Okay, I can see I'm getting over this 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.519 mountain because you know, yeah, I'll tell you what I 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.040 think it was the first you tell me when you 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:13.960 think was the time that you were finally like, okay, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:14.760 we're breaking through. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.760 I think it's around like v sic. Yeah, because when 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.680 when I got my first hot sound, which was crooked 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:28.320 in Jamaica, I did get ahead of myself because I say, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.400 we get that tip out of iceberg, it wasn't all 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.680 sweet after that. It got even before getting the first 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.040 at song, some men I said, all right, you know, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:39.840 I said, this is now gonna be an easy journey, 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.160 so I just pressure. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.320 What do you mean? It got rougher though? Like how 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:44.160 did it? 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:49.520 Like? Like when people seeing your potential, No, and you 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.360 have competitors and not everybody gonna like you, it just 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.079 got rough because now they see that you're forced to 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.480 be reckoned with them. The I tried and based film 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.840 the force, I get an leashed as me. So that's 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:02.400 what I mean. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.160 Even V six was a bit of a challenge because 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.960 I know you didn't own that song right or there 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:07.720 was an issue with. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.760 Like I just didn't get any any shares in the song. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.280 I write the song, I sing the song. I always 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.880 though one engineered the song I recorded and that sung 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:23.560 myself everything. It was only me there so but I 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.840 don't know, I mean ilopon that. That's not something to 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.000 delop and no one more. It's more and more it's an. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.320 And I guess it did what it did for you too. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.680 I put that behind me, I know, yeah, because right 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.960 now I'm more popular. A lot of people know me more. Right, No, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.320 so obviously they didn't stop at music, so I can't 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:42.960 do it on that. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.520 Yeah, No, of course not. And I do think sometimes 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.120 things happen for a reason, Like you said, as the 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.000 Golden Child, there's always gonna be things and you learn 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.680 from those things too. Yeah, right, because like you said, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.000 you did all of that, but it also teaches you 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.280 some business aspects that. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:56.840 You had to hear. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:01.720 And most definitely it opened my eye. And no, I'm 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.920 more educated about the business. So for something like that 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.880 to happen again, it least it really, you know, it 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.360 least likely for it helped to me again. So I like 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.040 what I journey and is a learning process and it 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.120 just a be left for the big idea. You know, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:19.200 at that moment. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:22.400 That you were about to say something. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.200 No, I was intrigued. I know you engineered the record too, Yeah, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:26.120 I engineered the record. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.760 Did you have to teach yourself how to do all that? 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.000 Because you were like nobody's. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:35.240 It's It's like I'm always in the studio watching my manager, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.080 watching the producer as an engineer doing everything, so and 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.839 I wasn't afraid to ask questions like what's that? What 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.599 does that do? What does that plugging do? So I 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.520 just end up learning the pro tools just by observing 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.080 and asking questions, till one day I just get up 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.320 started the record myself, and I keep getting better at it. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.080 Until I can mix the beat. I can't do anything 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.240 I want with it. But I don't focus much and 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.039 that I just want to know that I could lay 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:09.880 my own record down, so inky somebody now I can 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:10.200 do it. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.159 You just feel like recording something? 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.640 Yeah, yeah, majority my biggest songs, I'm the one who 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.839 engineered them. They hit songs. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:18.760 That's dope. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.159 That's the majority of them. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.840 That's a great skill. That's a great way to say 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.120 some money. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.240 I have a good team though they don't mind doing it. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.400 But sometimes sometimes you just want to go in there. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.920 Just in my element. I'm just so I'm going there 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.040 and just the more things. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.560 As far as artists, who was the first person that 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.520 was like, let me take you under my wing or 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.599 even support you publicly? 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.480 It was at all like automatic records. He produced a 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.800 lot of squash, a lot of He produced a lot 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.880 of chronic He produce Vibe Cartle. You know at all 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.760 is a really well known producer. He was actually the 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.599 first one who because at the time there was a 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.880 lot of war in the place where I came from, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.520 a lot of crime and violence, a lot of terf 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.920 for so he was there getting caught up in it. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.520 And one day he just he just he just showed 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:18.360 up or don't nowhere and was like yo yo. Because 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.640 a friend of mine named by the name attached him 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.359 and Dandan made the canic because they were friends with 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.599 Squash dance artists Squash and Squash was doing work with Ato. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.760 So they had told Squash that this new artist see 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.920 him and he ripping the thing and he don't even 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.640 know the thing. So he now told Squash that and 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:48.920 Squashed Ato say, yo him, take him up. He'sier artist now. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:54.880 And from that day I'm still with Ato. He's still 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:55.520 my manager. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.960 And squashes on yeah. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.560 And Dan Sky and the team keeps getting stronger. You know, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.040 we add on new people to the team. Sulky plays 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.560 a big part on the team to say, you don't know, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.400 the management team is strong. We just got to, you know, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.120 put our brains together to be the greatest. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.360 Now, what is some things that your management is like, Maladan, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.760 you gotta do they ever be like? 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.160 And as an artist, you gotta take take telling one 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.560 time back then, like a couple of years back, I 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.840 used to wear some big rings on my finger like 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.600 culs and and They were like, Yo, we don't want 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.080 that for the brand. Those you're a brand. We don't 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.920 want people to have that image that you. I want 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.560 you to be market. I will get rid of those rings. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.560 And one time I was stubborn towards it till they 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.679 had to throw them ring throw the rings rings away. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.960 When I wasn't there, I still went and bought. Yeah, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.160 I bought back some more and they were like. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.600 You're just being a stubborn too. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.240 You just gotta it was like, yo, what do you 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.720 want for yourself? What what is the image you want 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.640 to portray the people? And looking to myself, I wasn't 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.080 you know. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.520 Yeah, it's funny me and Nick Nick Sale we're talking 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.720 about because I was like, he do have songs that 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.560 the ladies like, but it's still rough, you know what 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.840 I'm saying, Like, I'm like, this. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.040 Is a song for the ladies. Aggressive, but women like 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:19.560 that too. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.560 Believe, And that's and that's what set me aside from 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.920 the artist them too, because you said the board and 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.280 so I'm gonna bring it to the table. I'll say 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.280 what's on your mind that you're afraid? They say, yeah, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:34.000 that's just you know. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:36.920 I'm like, because when I listen to it, you know, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:42.560 I'm visualizing, like Maladan dating someone, Yeah, what is that like? Like, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.520 what's like what makes what are some of the things 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.880 that you do to court a woman or to kind 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:48.760 of like on a date. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.960 What is mally done take a woman on a date, Like, 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.240 what are some things that well? Because I'm trying to 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.720 figure out listening to music, it is. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:02.000 The music, you know most definitely, I can't. I can't pretrot, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.160 I don't practice. You know, it doesn't feel right and 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.240 it feels less connected to the audience if I do 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.960 music that that don't really to me. My lifestyle are 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.520 my surrounding, all the people around me. So when it 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.640 comme ons to that when I hear me, so just know, 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.680 say some of the pre for true. So I saw 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.280 something do it for true? So when they come on 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:32.079 to like romance and them think girl like the bad romance. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:32.880 Where would you take her? 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.240 I need you to be specific, Like let's just say 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.000 you meet a young lady, you want to take her out? 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.240 No, what's it looking like? 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.760 I'm not real. I'm not really the type to be 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:47.000 outside like tying in no place because like I don't 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.319 wanna I don't wanna I don't want to steal out myself. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.760 Like when people save it for free, they won't pay 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.719 for See, they don't like. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.040 A page he got the eat. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.640 No, it depends if it's something low key and like 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.480 that's not gonna drive that much attention. Fine, we could 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.199 do something sweet like that. I could set up an airbnb, 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.480 get a chef, personal chef, all of us and we 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.360 have a good time and we vibe. We know. It 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.199 don't necessarily got to be something out in the public, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:17.440 you know. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.079 Okay, so that is actually impressive. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:21.679 You get an airbnb, get a. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.680 Chef, private chef, get flowers, candles, whatever. You know. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.400 You're not going towhere. Yeah, you're not going awhere. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.559 No, I don't want to try to lose salt. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.480 You know, you don't want to end up on the blogs. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:40.560 Yeah, yeah no, Because I'm saying we just really He 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.520 was like he really do songs that's more hard coordinate, 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.560 And I'm like, nah, but I can see why you no. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:51.160 Softness though before all, before I started to express myself 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.600 in like female songs, like songs for the ladies, I 0:10:55.720 --> 0:11:00.400 was always a hardcore artist. But when I I took 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.160 a look at my career and what did I And 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.840 I asked my question, asked myself what did I want 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:11.480 for myself? What is the image I wanted my career? 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:17.240 And it just feels more better towards the leadies, more 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:22.120 than violence and more than you know. Yeah, so transfer 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:27.079 that aggression into the music for the ladies. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:27.840 Like an aggressive lover. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:33.200 Yeah, in life, so speak of brand. This past week 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.559 has been crazy, crazy to say the least. Is there 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.760 a chance of peace coming from this? 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.640 Oh that's what you're talking. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.360 He's like, I'm talking about my alb. 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.480 Peace. Peace, peace when the commands. So, yeah, it's all 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.480 it's always peace. I'm at peace right now. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:52.680 Okay, it's me. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.199 So there's no no, no, no real obstacle, real a 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:05.839 reel trait towards me in within myself, within myself. We 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.360 we the one who is out there and putting our foot. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.320 No one never share your outside you see out there. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.599 I want to say this when it comes to like 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.320 because we've had like our fair share hip hop battles. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.360 This is a whole other level because you know, we 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:22.960 always are. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.160 Like, Okay, you can't say this, you can't say that 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.559 the creativity say sucking anything. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.680 I'd be like, oh my gosh. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.000 Like in a hip hop battle, you know, they're like, oh, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.760 you know that's crossing a line, crossing a boundary. Are 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.000 there lines or boundaries that don't get crossed? 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:42.320 It's always fearing. If you're gonna say something about somebody 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:48.200 sentimental to me, our figure sentimental to me, I'm going 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.360 to do to see them. And when you do it, 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.240 what am I going to say? I did it too? 0:12:54.880 --> 0:13:00.800 So I won't let people. I don't believe even oppression 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.480 and no boy can drive heear and me, I say 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.000 what put my mind? So I won't. I won't be 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.559 a puppet to the industry or a puppet to nobody 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:16.040 at all. So maybe the consequence for that is nobody 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.520 will like and nobody will ray, but nobody don't get 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.920 to like it for you to be successful, and people 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.440 who turn out to be the biggest nobody normally like them. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:31.760 They end up jump on a train. So so ultimately, 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.000 mm hmm, I'm just a force to be reckoned with. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.440 And people know that, and they know that I don't care, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.320 so they're not gonna like me. Like, for instance, I 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.720 don't really play in parties. Selectors don't play myselngs even 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.439 when I'm that it's if it's an instance where I'm 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.240 the artist artist in the in in in in Jamaica, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.040 I still don't play the parties. I could be number 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.080 one and all charts in the Caribbean, and there are 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.240 multiple instances where I'm number one all carib be on 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.520 islands with different songs, not just one songs, you still 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.560 won't hear me playing the party. I don't kill up 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.520 myself about that. I don't be tough myself about that 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.040 because manure and we know agree this way, Well, what 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.520 would be who type. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.200 You in New York definitely appreciate you in the club? 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.920 Yeah yeah, yeah. You see, we did a show by 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.120 myself the other day and we got over six thousand 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.240 people just me alone. I just brought out some of 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.720 my friends, you know, as guests. They could sing a 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.320 one two song. But really and truly I was the 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.320 only one on that on that show, it was our show. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:42.480 Seven thousand. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:43.920 Yeah. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.000 I want to ask you this that what does management say, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.200 because you know, like you said, people weigh in on 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.440 things and that is something that is part of growth 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.160 as an artist. But I understand also not wanting to 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.760 compromise who you are. But when it comes to that. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.680 I'm just curious. On the other side of things is 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.560 what does management say to you about like different you 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:08.000 being extremely vocal, uncensored and it does go very viral. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.280 Yeah, yeah, because our lives and us so you know, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.320 the least thing that we say is go viral. So management, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.120 you know, I mean, I really do much interviews like 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.800 that right now. Me doing a lot of interviews lately 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.240 is just because I have an album coming up. I 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:25.800 don't say that. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.320 I said, you know, his alms coming up. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.120 I don't really. I don't really be on the press, 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.040 so what's there to say. You're not gonna hear nothing 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.360 from Malid and I don't be going live, chatting off, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:40.280 chat chatting up my fierce like some man. But when 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:45.760 I do have an interview, I'm still vocal. But you know, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.800 time and place and as we say, is a product. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.600 So we have more for control ourselves, control our emotions, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.960 and supportate business from feelings. And that's that's exactly what 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.800 I do. You won't be seeing me on a podcast 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:07.240 dissen a artists, crossing up artists. Obviously, that's not the 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.720 that's not the picture image that I want to be 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.720 paint off Maladan. I want to. I want to can 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:19.560 do endorsements. I want to can get sponsors from big companies. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:25.040 I want to be carporate. Yeah, but without corporate Madan, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.560 without without Yes, we know we're from the streets, we 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.320 grew up in the streets and all of that, but 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.160 we don't got to let that define the carrier. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.480 And you know, and I think that's great for people 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.040 to see that who have come from where you come from, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.280 to see what's passable, because there are people that are 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.720 young that are watching you, that are like Maidans from 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:44.240 where I'm from. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.360 And a lot of people get defined by the place 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.080 they come from. And I want to I want to 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.560 dismiss off that tart in any head when it commands 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.080 to me. Not because we came from from poverty, not 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.960 because we came from the garys so the ghetto, that 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:07.120 doesn't determine your future. We got to be young black entrepreneurs. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.040 We got to be you know. I like seeing young 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.560 people own businesses and stuff like that and that. Right now, 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.480 that's my main focus. I want to venture in some 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.679 business like right now, and we mainly focus on the 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.800 music because right now it's the time for me, you know. Yeah, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.800 But at the same time, we still have a business 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:32.160 start in my head with like you know, make happen 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.720 and like venturing. So right now I'm just it's all 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:36.080 in there. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.480 What businesses do you think? 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.399 As I say, I'm not. I haven't ventured in it 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.200 as yet, but I'm trying to think of different ideas 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.120 and different things to venture in as an artist because 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.040 I don't just want to be an artist. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.000 Yeah, your business, your brand. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.040 I want to be a CEO. I'm already a CEO 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.439 to the malad and brand, but I want to have 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.280 other things do for you to know me for not 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:04.240 just you know. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.240 You have two sons as well, right, three sons. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.040 So how when you think about your career and you 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.640 think about because you are always your children and everything, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:15.400 what is that like for you? 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.720 You know, raising boys? You don't have any girls yet, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:20.240 Wait till you have a girl. 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.200 Yeah, that's gonna be so different for you. But maybe 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.240 you know, God, just all up and the girl. Because 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.240 I know, I say, if we get the girl, it 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.680 probably changed my mindset and change or go about things 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.720 and the ruthless next summer put towards the music and 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.159 dance because that somebody said to me, Yo, you have 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.640 so many energy enemy enemies in music. You don't You're 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.000 no freid yo, You're no freed for dead man. I 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.160 said freed for dead. Everybody going dead, but my freid 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.840 for dead without setting it for my kids them that 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.639 my death is not the fear because everybody have for die. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.840 So when you see the rut listening and the anger 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.919 and the drive woman putting, all this is because they 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.040 want hurry up and make sure my kids them good, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.240 because them, after all, right, we bring them the earth. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.639 Them never asks for coming. So I just that, man, 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:21.240 I've said it. So I'm not believe that I can 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.720 approach things with fear when it commands to this, because 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.720 the anger or the anger will outfit. We'll just have a. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.399 You feel like your sons might want to do music? 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:32.800 Do they? 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:38.119 Yea becau they watch on the TV is my music 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.879 and my music is slack. I try I try and 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.000 not try not to. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.240 You know, they're not gonna watch you. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.399 They still find ways so they want to see their father. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.520 So I try to get the clean versions and the 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:58.040 TV and stuff. They be singing some crazy stuff. Sometimes 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.359 I gotta just like yeah, chill, like how to do 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:07.960 some kids well that's that's that's that's the direction that 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.720 I think about the venture and something. Yeah, but for 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.439 no right, no, just hardcore and you know, you just 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.680 got to grow the kids how they should be grown 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.880 and teach them around from right as parents. You know that. 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.639 You know you mentioned that somebody said to you the 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.600 other day that you have a lot of enemies. Do 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.399 you think these enemies are just in the music business 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.159 where they may try to prevent things, or do you 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.840 feel like even outside of that, because you know there's 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.240 a difference between we don't like each other in this 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.399 music industry and outside of it is different. 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:45.920 Well, well, I'm a musician, so obviously I'm I'm thinking musically, 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:52.160 but I won't put nothing past a person or had 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.400 an individual apart from myself, I can swear for nobody. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.480 So with that being said, I can't take no check, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.479 I can't be loose, I can't be underestimating people that 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.679 I don't know. So whether or not it's music are 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:13.719 it's that enemies are enemies and you get treated like enemies. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.639 You know, I don't have to be going in a 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:21.959 space sorry, you know, because men, I know we'll got 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:26.520