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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Wake Up, Wake up, sleepy heads.

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Speaker 1: I know if you watched Bellator on Saturday night, you

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to go to bed until ten am.

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Speaker 1: But it's Monday. Now you can wake up and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the day. You can enjoy the show. It's time, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, on this twenty fifth of April twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two for Morning Combat. I am merely one half of

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Speaker 1: your hosting duo. I join you from the capital of

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Speaker 1: Estatus of News right here in Washington, d C. My

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas, and that is the Viceroy of

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Speaker 1: Connecticut on that side of the screen. He is the

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Speaker 1: original CTDB, this Connecticut dirt bag himself my friend in yours.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. What's up BC.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Monday morning, Luke. Okay, it's just another manic Monday.

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Speaker 2: I wish it were Sunday, Luke, because that's my fun day,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: How was it hunting in the deer stand with that

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Speaker 1: hat this morning.

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Speaker 2: My I don't have to run day. You know that's

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Speaker 2: an eighties reference, Get it right. No, it's going great, Luke,

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Speaker 2: happy to be here, big fan of the you know

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Speaker 2: one hundred and nine or so thousand people who like

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Speaker 2: and subscribe what we do on YouTube, because Luke, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter how washed I feel, and boy do I

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Speaker 2: I get out of that bed, I put on the

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Speaker 2: hunting cap, I turn on the microphone, and I look

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Speaker 2: into this camera and I fucking bring it, bro.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean like, you know, win loser draw, Luke, Right,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm like Arlen Bwenco in

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Speaker 2: that cyborg match. I may not win, Bro, I may not. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I may be, but I'm coming. I'm coming on, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. People keep calling that fight like it was

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Speaker 1: a war. It was, yeah, like the Mexican American War.

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Speaker 1: Like it was not. It was one sided.

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Speaker 2: You're saying it was more desert shield to your war liking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a lot more desert shield then

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Speaker 1: you know, let's say the Marines island hopping campaign in

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Speaker 1: World War Two. In any event, we'll get to that,

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Speaker 1: but we're going, of course, we're gonna talk about Fury

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Speaker 1: the weekend. We'll actually lead the show with that today

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Speaker 2: Wield decision Luke on Tyson Fury day to lead with that.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing is that I mean by a

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Speaker 1: million miles incontestably. I mean, this is not even debatable.

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Speaker 1: The Tyson Fury fight was not just bigger, it was

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Speaker 1: orders of magnitudes bigger. But here was the problem. Number one,

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Speaker 1: you did a great post fight show. That's not a problem.

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Speaker 1: But I was just saying we already gave it some

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Speaker 1: coverage here with your great post fight show, which you

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Speaker 1: in fact, we a balat or post fight show. We've

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Speaker 1: listening on BC, there got some ag one there. That's

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Speaker 1: the way, Castano, Charlo or Charlie Costollio two coming up

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Speaker 2: You're reminder. If you're a reminder, because we just saw

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Speaker 2: fantastic Charlo Castano two card May fourteenth, Carson, California, Jeron

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Speaker 2: Boots out of this against Custio Clayton for a shot

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, everyone wants Spence Crawford, but old Boots is

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Speaker 1: I haven't slept because I just finished covering Belatore Bellatour

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Speaker 2: Didn't you house a bunch of Columbians this weekend as well?

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Speaker 1: Yes, there are there are many at my house this weekend.

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Speaker 2: They're all getting you know, four days or four or

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Speaker 2: Papa Gringo comedy special. You're already living that, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bro I lived that life twenty four seven, three

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Speaker 1: That's kind of how I talk to my in laws

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Speaker 1: But they made a good point. They're like, your daughter's

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Speaker 1: So they kind of battered me. I might have to

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Speaker 2: To all honesty, And I get why you would do it,

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Speaker 1: I have a lifetime subscription in Spanish to Rosetta Stone.

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Speaker 2: But I tried that for three three sessions, Luke, how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Core, all right, Well, we got a ton of

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Speaker 2: I heard you pop when r J Dunklemaker sent me

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Speaker 1: That was like, you know, the morning ritual is that

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Speaker 1: And BC was kind of growing him like you know,

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Speaker 1: what's your new idea? Motherfucker? What you got? Like he's

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Speaker 1: Nate Diaz looking for a fight in a parking lot

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Speaker 1: and he was like, I haven't heard anything from you.

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Speaker 1: He's like, well, you just signed on to the call

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Speaker 1: That's why you were absent. Yeah, I cannot believe that

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, baby.

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Speaker 2: Great nineties difference.

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Speaker 1: begin topic number one. Jessica Androje scored the first ever

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Speaker 1: She gets it over Amanda Laimos or Lamosh BC A

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Speaker 2: Again, I would say it was a reminder of the

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Speaker 2: I mean by that is getting pieced up early from

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Speaker 2: Luke and the added tach game really just adding to

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Speaker 2: her badass persona. I mean, I know you're gonna want

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Speaker 2: how about the technique of her tattoo artists. This ain't,

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Speaker 2: mister heboss.

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Speaker 1: Luke, which ones in particular are new? I didn't notice

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Speaker 2: The shoulders in arms, Luke. I mean she's starting to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like she. I can't quite tell her.

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Speaker 1: but BC, I think she is crazy underrated. Like everyone

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Speaker 1: But dude, Rose Nama Yunis did that for two fucking

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Speaker 1: I'll explain this. I've been taught the head and arm

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Speaker 2: woke to this, Luke? I mean this is we're putting

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Speaker 2: she's still doing this to ranked contenders. No, she's not

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Speaker 2: She's always gonna get lit up by good strikers, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But if you don't get out of her out of there,

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Speaker 2: because Androj can still do ridiculously, as you would say,

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Speaker 1: You couldn't find all of the flaws in her game, dude,

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Speaker 1: They're not that they're not that hidden. It's just that

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Speaker 1: Fuck all, you know what I mean? What does it

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Speaker 2: Agreed, Maybe she's the female Dan Hendo for all I know,

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah they were. Thank you to Josh Rosenthal though, for.

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Speaker 2: For enduring that prison sentence for something that is now legalized,

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Speaker 2: you know, Luke, both of the things, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I reached out to him to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, I would too, now that you're putting the

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Speaker 1: Know, just come through be see who should she fight next?

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Speaker 1: You have Joan Wiley at one, she's in need of

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Speaker 2: I think either way, Luke I was wrong. She has

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Speaker 1: Is Dern I should say, is Androge like the worst

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Speaker 2: if you have a specific set of skills. Not trying

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Speaker 2: to make a taken reference here, what's that guy's name, Luke,

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Speaker 2: the damn Liam Neeson. Yeah, oh good poll there, Luke.

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Speaker 2: A huge boxing fan, that guy. But you know, if

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Speaker 2: hell to do that. I would like to see Dern

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Speaker 2: like to see her against Marina Hadriguez even more, Luke,

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Speaker 2: So maybe that ends up being the most likely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either of those, I'd be okay with I like

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Speaker 1: the Hadriguez fight. I like the Durn fight for different reasons,

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Speaker 1: imagine if how Driguez durnbeat on Drage, You'd be like, okay, dude,

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Speaker 1: title like that's the number one contenders fight basically basically,

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Speaker 1: I did not think she was going to go in

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Speaker 1: deep now overall that is, dude, I'm just that that

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Speaker 2: figure out the future of this title picture.

429
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Speaker 1: So let's say yo Wanna comes back, fights Jean Wiley

430
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: and loses again. Does she fight again? I don't think so.

431
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: Not against not against someone like this, No, yeah, right,

432
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean what would be I know, Like, but if

433
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: she wins, that's a different story. If she comes back

434
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: and she beat Jeong way Lee out.

435
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: Of all title I think you give her a tunnel shot.

436
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: Look at that name. Look, if you're the UFC, there

437
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: would be, in my opinion, no harm done in giving

438
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: Rose Yoanna a third fight. If yo Wanna bounces back

439
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 2: and defeats I mean, that'd be a monster win. At

440
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 2: this point of Joanna's career, to beat Wayley.

441
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 1: That would be huge. It would be Yeah, no doubt

442
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: about it. That would be huge. But I mean that's

443
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: such a huge if, Like, who the hell knows what

444
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna get. I thought she won the first time,

445
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: it was super close, but she's been off. She's been

446
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: off since the pandemic basically, I mean, that's John. Was

447
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: that the same card as uh John Jones versus Dominic Reyes.

448
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: I thought it was the same card as out of

449
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 2: Sonia versus Romero. I could be right.

450
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: I think that's right there, but right around that time,

451
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: like it, yeah, just pre pandemic, and then here, all

452
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 1: this time later she hasn't fought, so I guess we'll

453
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: have to see. All right, we move on to now

454
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: topic number two, which of course we stayed with the UFC.

455
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: So here's how I'm going to ask this car. Rather

456
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: than just going through a big thing of these, I'm

457
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna list you the names who had I thought really

458
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: big and cool wins, but maybe you can size them

459
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: up for me. Macy Barber, Charles Jordan, Claudio Poges, who

460
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: was the most impressive on Saturday. Give me the one

461
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: of the three.

462
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a close. It's a close conversation here.

463
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 2: You can go either way. And I love the commitment.

464
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: Look your fucking commitment to pronouncing puelos. I mean successfully

465
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: you are They were saying shit like pilos. I'm like,

466
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 2: I mean you were assaulting these announcers over text on Twitter.

467
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean you were just.

468
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: Like assaulting as a strong assaulting as a strong word.

469
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm in fact, I'm gonna go take Spanish

470
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: classes just to prove these motherfuckers wrong. That's the spirit

471
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: you brought to that. But look, the answer is Macy

472
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: Barber and the reason, Luke is because that's what decision

473
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: win she had just had was it against against mirandam Maverick.

474
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't convincing enough for me, and she was on

475
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: a slide that really seemed to come out of nowhere,

476
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: beginning with that upset loss to Roxane Moutafurry and to

477
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: see her not just stop the bleeding, although again she's

478
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: coming awful win a disputed one, but Luke, she returned

479
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: to exactly who she was in my opinion before that

480
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: slide started the next level aggression. No matter what, I'm

481
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: gonna get my strikes off, and my strikes are going

482
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: to be violent. Look the difference in this fight and

483
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: Montana dela Rosa is not a completely well rounded fighter,

484
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: as you saw in her striking, but she's durable, she's big,

485
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: her ground game is excellent. The difference in this fight

486
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: was every time they were in that standing clinch, which

487
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: was seemingly three quarters of this fight, Barbara was able

488
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: to separate and land vicious shots Luke, I mean she

489
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: was able to land absolute hammers. That's the Macy Barber

490
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: of old, the person who fights angry, the person who

491
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: seems to have a gas tank that won't quit. Somewhere

492
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: along the road, Luke, she lost some of who she was.

493
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: The losses compounded, maybe the doubt and fear kicked in.

494
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: But whatever she has needed to add in the interim

495
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: to get back to that, she added it. This is

496
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: a great win against a good fighter, not a world

497
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: beater in Montana, but a good A good win in

498
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: terms of the stakes, but a great win in terms

499
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: of the performance and the idea that we all know.

500
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: It's a shallow Division one twenty five. It's a short

501
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: path to the title, and if she keeps looking like this, Luke,

502
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 2: it won't be long until she opens that door and

503
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: Chefchenko's standing there just out of you know, in some cases,

504
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: out of necessity, because there's not much else until what's

505
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: her name again, Tatiana Suarez comes back. But uh, Luke,

506
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 2: she's back. And I don't sit here as some Macy

507
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: Barber superfan, but I sit here with respect and tell

508
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: you she's back.

509
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, I thought this was this is not gonna

510
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: be my answer for the whole question, But in terms

511
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: of what Barber showed, I do agree that this was

512
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: a pretty important fight for her because she lost to

513
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: Mota Ferry and then she lost to Grasso when she

514
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: was twenty one years old or twenty two years old,

515
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: whatever it was like for her birthday, but pretty pretty

516
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: young and pretty early in the going. And then I

517
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: wasn't sure her development was going in the right direction

518
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: because you know, you get we talked about it before.

519
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: Some people can get to the UFC at twenty one

520
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: years old and they can develop fully and it's no

521
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: big deal. They're pretty rare in number, but it is possible. Still,

522
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy for a lot of fighters,

523
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: so I was like a little bit concerned, And you

524
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: mentioned that there was time off. Part of that was

525
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: also injury related. She had to get I think her

526
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: hand or her wrist surgery taking care of, so there

527
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: was a problem there. So against Miranda Maverick, she had

528
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: a good showing, but I thought that she had lost

529
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: that contest and it was very very close. Here against

530
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: Dala Rosa, this was the first time I think since

531
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: the loss to Grasso, no in one of the rounds

532
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: for a complete performance. This is the first time since

533
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: the loss to Grasso where I thought she not only

534
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: had more skills and more departments than her opponent, she

535
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: took charge of the fight. That was to me, the

536
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: big difference. Dala Rosa was kind of waiting around somewhat. Now.

537
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you, she did have better ground skills

538
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: for the most part, at least better better pure jiu jitsu,

539
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: let's say, than Barber, and at times you saw a

540
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: little bit of that for sure. But what really set

541
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: off the difference here was there was just a certain

542
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: level of intentionality, game planning and execution, fearless execution, thoughtful execution, thoughtful,

543
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: but basically fearless, like this is the job that has

544
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: to get done in order for me to win, and

545
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm simply going to like a pile like a power drill,

546
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to just shoot right through and make it happen.

547
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: And she did, and that, to me was really impressive.

548
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: To have a very disciplined approach to the game, to

549
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: fight with intentionality, to fight with clear strategy, and then

550
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: to show the well roundedness and the other part you're

551
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: talking about too. You know, she used to have a

552
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: little bit of meanness, like you watch your Contender series

553
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: fight that kind of a thing. This was really the

554
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: first time, I think in a while where we got

555
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: a better glimpse of that fight went the full distance.

556
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: But on those clinch breaks, she was showing a lot

557
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: of good work. So I agree this was a very

558
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: All the names I mentioned had a really nice win.

559
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 2: Luke. Here's the best compliment I can give her. And then,

560
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: don't take this the wrong way. She fights like she

561
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: had a really bad childhood. I don't know if she did, Luke,

562
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: but she's fighting like that again.

563
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I know what you mean. It is a

564
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: terrible thing to consider, but it is the reality. A

565
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: lot of times these guys come from our ladies, come

566
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: from broken homes and have no idea.

567
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: But she's back to fighting like that, Luke, and that

568
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: that's what gets you ahead in this game, you know,

569
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: especially in a division that's not that deep, Luke.

570
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: Right, But for me, I'm gonna go with the Peruvian prints. Now.

571
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: One note on Guida BC as Mike Bond, who is

572
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: just I mean, you know, I was gonna call him

573
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: to Bill Cosby of the Skies, but that's not fair.

574
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: No, come on, don't do that, Luke, Come.

575
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: On, that's not It's just it's not fair at all.

576
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: It's not fair at all. But I'll just say this, Mike

577
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: bon and Ram Junkie, hih, I mean point.

578
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: W Kamal Bell did DM me asking for his contact info. Luke,

579
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you, you know what I mean.

580
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like, I got a documentary idea about airplanes, Mike,

581
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: you got any uh?

582
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the point I want to make about Mike

583
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: because he is a point on Twitter that was quite correct,

584
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: which was this was the last fight on Guida's career

585
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: MMA cont or excuse a UFC contract. So he fought

586
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: it out and it wasn't like he got like super

587
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: beat up or something, but he got finished very very quickly.

588
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: In fact, the time according to the notes here he won.

589
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: He lost via nee bar at three minutes and one seconds.

590
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Third knee bar in a row for cloudy opuages. Dude,

591
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: unbelievable the stuff that this guy has shown. Three knee

592
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: bars he has on his record overall, which is fantastic.

593
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: And dude, he also took charge of this fight, never

594
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: giving even though Gidy was able to reverse position a

595
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: couple of times. Here was a guy who showed jiu

596
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: jitsu attacking all the time in the NBC. He only

597
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: gets this fantastic arm bar from Nie Shield or z Guard.

598
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: He whips into it, scores it. It was I mean

599
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: he had Gweta dead two rights on this. The the

600
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: ankle of Guita was by his ear for crying out loud.

601
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: Then he gets on the mic. Then he gets on

602
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: the mic and he calls for a commentary job. He

603
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: calls for Twitter give it verification. Batch. I thought somebody

604
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: who did the most to raise their profile in stock

605
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: would be him. What do you think about that?

606
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he fights with that same spirit of the guy

607
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: that you know your girlfriend tells you not to be

608
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: nervous about when you send her off to college. Luke

609
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: in her dorms. But he's creeping up on that door,

610
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: sitting in the room, you know, like talking about his

611
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: childhood endearingly. And then he finishes, He gets the finished Luke.

612
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: He did that in this fight. That's five in a

613
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: row since losing his UFC debut. You see the sublime

614
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: ability to put Guida in peril, seemingly out of nowhere.

615
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: You know, obviously it's a calculated setup, but it just

616
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: sort of happens to the to the uninitiated eye like

617
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: my own, and you're just like, damn in great shape,

618
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: good looking kid, great nickname, al Nino Luke, He's coming

619
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: the hell on.

620
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: I just think he's the Prince of Peru.

621
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: Now I just can't figure out how to pronounce his

622
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: name because I look at that, I see playliss I'm wrong, So.

623
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: There's yeah, basically it's pue would be like a pwe

624
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: to our ears and eye, so it's play. And then

625
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: the double L is a y, so yes, well yes,

626
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: or you can do how my wife says it, which

627
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: they say a double L like a y like a J.

628
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: So just either way, daddy Jankie got it? Yes, yes, or.

629
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: She says well, yeah, that's why she says daddy yanky

630
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: because they treat double l's and why is the same

631
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: where she's from. So there you go. But anyway, yes,

632
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: unbelievable performance by him. And we should also note for

633
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Jordan's it's not that his performance wasn't great. There's it

634
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: was fantastic. In fact, he got like it rule he

635
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: got hit once and then came back fired. That I

636
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: think it was a left straight perfectly down the middle

637
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: drops of Aanada and then jumps on the guillotine. And

638
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: this is what was so clear. This is why I

639
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: this is why you ranked Barber ahead. That's why I

640
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: didn't pict Jordana's having the best performance, because I just

641
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: didn't understand what a lot of Lando Vanada was doing

642
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: that one time Jordain goes for the guillotine and then

643
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: on the guillotine you see, but not a peel it away.

644
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: He's good, still tries to sit up in the half

645
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: guar to reverse position and then just re exposes his

646
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: neck and doesn't fight the hands. Jordan keeps it with

647
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: one and then he did fight it with all high

648
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: elbow on the other. So it wasn't a one armed guillotine.

649
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: But it was weird that he fought it off, he

650
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: hand fought correctly and then just let it go. Jordaane

651
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: went right back to it and got it so like

652
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: for that reason, it's not like he didn't do his job.

653
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: He did his job times a thousand. It's just that

654
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: there was such a real obvious error on the part

655
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: of his opponent that I had to give the other

656
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: people a bit higher of a ranking.

657
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say about Air is jor Dan And

658
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: you were right when you told me offline that you

659
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: know this card sucked on paper, but boy did it

660
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: develop fun moments, storylines, things worth talking about after the fact,

661
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: even if it was buried on this loaded combat weekend.

662
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: Jordan had the hardest fight of these three. He had

663
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: the most, in my opinion, the most dangerous opposition because look,

664
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: Vanada came in there. I tweeted it with the damn

665
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: Eye of the Tiger. He came in there as a

666
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: veteran at thirty who'd been alternating wins and losses, who

667
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: was like, fuck it, now I'm figuring out how to

668
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 2: do this. I've been an action fighter, I've done some

669
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: great things, and I'm going to figure out how absolute

670
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: destroy people. And Luke, he came in with that haircut,

671
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: facial hair, you know, movie villain combination, like he's walking

672
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: on the set of Breaking bat or something. Luke, he

673
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: came in there to win, And dude, that's a for

674
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Jordan to do that against that focused and dangerous of

675
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: an opponent. Very very impressive.

676
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that. I think he definitely

677
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: had the toughest assignments, just the way that the fight

678
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: worked out. Jordan did everything he was supposed to, but

679
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: some of it was a little bit served up.

680
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: But look, you know, you clown on me a lot,

681
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and shout out to people

682
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: like Julius and Gliscus, my Lithuanian Brenneran brethren, or I'mntestaniosis

683
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: who just won a piece of the welterweight title in

684
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: boxing first Lithuanian. But Luke, don't you fucking forget for

685
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: a second. I'm French Canadian on the other fifty percent,

686
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: and so is Charles Jordan, and you saw that same.

687
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Spirit, Luke.

688
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I will cut you if you test me. That's

689
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: the thing, Luke. At the end of the day, you know,

690
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: jokes and funding games until I get that joking.

691
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: Duley noted, all right, let's move on to topic number three.

692
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: If we can BC, this was the biggest combat sports

693
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: event of the weekend by a million miles. You had

694
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: an instant reaction on Saturday immediately after the fights at

695
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: which were afternoon time for us here on the East

696
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Coast in the United States. But Tyson Fury scored a

697
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: devastating one punch uppercut knockout over Dillion White in the

698
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: sixth round in front of which, by the way, were

699
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: there ninety four thousand people. ESPN wouldn't never mention anything

700
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell in any events in front of a

701
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: monster UK crowd. See let's start here. Many things impressive

702
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: about this win. What was the most impressive thing.

703
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: The recommitment of Fury in two areas. One in terms

704
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: of fitness, because let's be honest, when he came back

705
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: for eighteen months to fight Wilder the third time with

706
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: really not much to gain since it was a court

707
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: mandated contractual kicking for Wilder to make that third fight happen,

708
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: we saw Fury a little bit out of shape. We

709
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: saw him have to get up off the canvas. We

710
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: saw him have to just gut out a legendary win.

711
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: This was different, Luke. This was twelve weeks training camp.

712
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: As they talked about on the broadcast, this was an

713
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: absolute what's the best version of theory we can find

714
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: at age thirty three? Physically it was this guy. Now. Equally,

715
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: what's as equally impressive the commitment to becoming a power

716
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: puncher under sugar Hill Steward that's soliloquy he gave after

717
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: the fight of Just Love. And I don't know, I

718
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: don't even remember when it happened, Luke. But I don't

719
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: think I've ever seen Javon sugar Hill Steward with a

720
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: shirt on anymore. He's always shirtless around Tyson Fury. Luke,

721
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: they have he has successfully taken the blueprint, which started

722
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: with Fury's uncle Peter, you know, continued to Ben Davison

723
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: of this freak of nature size guy who fights like

724
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: a middleweight in terms of his speed. He switches, dances

725
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: as he does all that stuff. But now a couple

726
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: fights into this kronk style, Luke, He's a legitimate power puncher.

727
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Legitimate and you know, I never would have guessed that

728
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: that Tyson Fury, despite that side that wait, the reach,

729
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: would become a legitimate one punch threat. This uppercut showed you, Luke.

730
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: And this is why I think we all pooh pooh

731
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: the talk of retirement. He's he's better than he's ever

732
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: been right now. And there's a lot of revisionists. I

733
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: told you SOBC White's a bomb. He's always been a

734
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: ball like no, no, he hasn't always been a bomb.

735
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: He went twelve and one over his last thirteen.

736
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Like you would agree, he did not have a strong perform.

737
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: He did not fight well in this context.

738
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: He had an awful performance. But guys, it's because Fury

739
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: closed all the lanes. And the reason why I predicted

740
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: it would be the opposite, including maybe Fury getting about

741
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: the canvas, is because you saw Tyson Fury last fall,

742
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: who wasn't the very best version of him. And with

743
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: all of that retirement talk, you did have to sort

744
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: of say to yourself, are we seeing Fury play out

745
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: the hits, you know, down the stretch. Could he come

746
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: into this fight over confident? You know, No, he didn't, Luke,

747
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: he crossed all the teas out of the eyes. Anything

748
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: White try, he got absolutely shoved in his face. Like

749
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: I mentioned in that forty five minute long raant I

750
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: did on the post show that people can watch on

751
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat, I mean, when White

752
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: tried to be dirty, Tyson was dirtier. When White tried

753
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: to close distance, Tyson relied on his quickness in his length,

754
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: but then put that pepper with the salt. Luke, now

755
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: that he is committing to fight finishing blows, he is

756
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: as dangerous as ever. Luke, we are watching a special

757
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: a special fighter, a historic fighter, because the main theme

758
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: I did in that post show was telling you this.

759
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly where we can rank Fury historically

760
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: because unfortunately his resume is so thin because of all

761
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: the times he's been out of the ring and not

762
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: inside of it since becoming a big name. But ability wise,

763
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: mythical matchup wise, Luke, he's a problem for every single

764
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion in the history of the sport. That's facts,

765
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: that's just, that's math, rights, that's genetics, that size, that's

766
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: all that. You don't have people who can do it all.

767
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: Like this, where's the hole in his game? It used

768
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: to be power punching. It's not a hole anymore.

769
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Dude.

770
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: He's got a chin, He's got everything, Luke. I mean,

771
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: the hole in his game might be the unpredictability of

772
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: his personality and the fact that after beating Clitchko he

773
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: did go on a four year vender. You know, we've

774
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: been down that road. But like, that's the biggest obstacle

775
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: in him becoming a top five all time heavyweight is

776
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: him and Luke. Right now, he's beaten himself you know

777
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, He's in control of himself. So the

778
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: only thing I sort of want to talk to you

779
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: about is something I didn't even mention in the post show,

780
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: but Dillian White sure did today in his first interview

781
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: Boxing Scene. Dot Com had a headline from it, White

782
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: talking about the push. It did happen, Luke, I regret

783
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: not bringing it up.

784
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I saw it in real time, didn't think much of it,

785
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: but now that it.

786
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: Either because look the right uppercut that Fury landed in

787
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: round six that dropped White and dropped him hard again.

788
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: I think that finishes you know, every heavyweight in the world.

789
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: But after landing that uppercut, he did do the two

790
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: handed shove, and look, Fury, we'll test the boundaries of

791
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: what's legal, Luke, and especially if you try to be

792
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: dirty to him, he'll be dirtier. I want to ask you.

793
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: White says that shove was illegal, he should have been

794
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: given more time to recover because of it.

795
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: What do you say, I think if you wanted, I mean,

796
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: plus there was you know, how about in the fourth

797
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: round when Tyson Fury's brother is fucking throwing water on

798
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: him when they're in the corner, and the fight's still

799
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: going on, like not in between rounds. That was weird.

800
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: There was a headbut that caused a cut over the

801
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: was it the right eye of Dillion White? I mean,

802
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: there was a lot of that fight that was a little,

803
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: you know. And they had said that this referee was

804
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the best of their of their are the ones they

805
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: had available, but had I think this was the first

806
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: time doing a heavyweight title fight, a main event, I believe,

807
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: and in any case, I thought he did mostly a

808
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: good job, but that these two guys, you needed someone

809
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: who was going to be quick on the action there. Listen,

810
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Does White have a case by the

811
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: letter of the law that not everything was followed as

812
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: it should have been, and therefore, in terms of due process,

813
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: he might be owed something. I think if you really

814
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be highly technical about it and be had

815
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: this crazy fealty to to the rules, yeah, maybe you

816
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: could argue that that's I don't think that's that crazy.

817
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: But the problem is this PC number one, as you indicated,

818
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: that shot fucked him up. I don't think he probably

819
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: would have been put out no matter what. Number two,

820
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: and this is part of the story, dude, he didn't

821
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: do shit to Tyson Fury for six rounds, for as

822
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: long as that fight lasted. He got some decent body

823
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: shots in there here or there, but a they were

824
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: in a whole lot of them, and be usually, Fury

825
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: had a response that was even better right after it.

826
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: And then more to the point, that was all there was.

827
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if he made a clean contact with

828
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: a head punch through the entire fucking fight. Man. So

829
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, did the rules get ignored here a

830
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: little bit in this flir this fury no pun intended

831
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: that happened post fight, with all this fervor, all this craziness. Yeah,

832
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: maybe so, but is there any appetite for a second fight?

833
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Why Tyson Fury is immeasurably better than Dillion White?

834
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: Yea, And I watched the replay a couple more times

835
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: after reading White saying that, and he might be true

836
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: that he might not have gone down if not for

837
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: that push, But Luke, he looked out on his feet

838
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: in that split second there. So even if he doesn't

839
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: go down, you gotta believe Fury is gonna finish him.

840
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: And again, like I expect a Fury to win, I

841
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: didn't expect Furiy to essentially shut down every single thing

842
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: White had. It was disappointing in that stretch in that

843
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: sense from knowing how good Dillion White is. But you know,

844
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: it's not like there's a lot of six foot nine

845
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: heavyweights with quick hands and a great chin that you

846
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: can spar against and prepare for.

847
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: Luke.

848
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: He got in there, and he looked very limited in

849
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: the end, because Luke his style is so predicated upon

850
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: getting inside. Statistically copybox Yzy's the second busiest heavyweight in

851
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: the game today, and when that was closed, he was done.

852
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: He was absolutely done. And credit to Tyson Fury. So, Luke,

853
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: you heard my excitement. Anyone that watched my posh, you

854
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: heard my excitement. Do you also agree, even with White's

855
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: flat performance, that this might be Fury at thirty three,

856
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: which is so so damn young at heavyweight by the way,

857
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Like this might be the best, most dangerous version of

858
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: him we've ever seen.

859
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how good dude that was. I'm not

860
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: going to say easy for him, but that was not

861
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: that hard for him. And there's a couple of things

862
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: that folks just lost sight of. Would anyone pay attention,

863
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: like This is why the uppercut landed. Everyone talks about

864
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: how he measured him and then he waited for him

865
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: to come in. So the timing of it was really good.

866
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: But the other part was that anyone notice the guard

867
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: that Dillian White was using. He was using the Joe

868
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: Fraser crossguard where he brings his hands up like this

869
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: like that, but the uppercut wouldn't work. So what you saw,

870
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: essentially Fury do was invest in these in these linear punches,

871
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: investing these wide punches that would force the guard to

872
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: go from here to here, creating a laying up the middle,

873
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: and then he fired it on top of the distance

874
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: measuring and then you know he was expecting the pressure.

875
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: By the way, there was much more pressure late because

876
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: I think White was starting to get frustrated because he

877
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: couldn't get on the inside. Fury was tying him up.

878
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there was all these things that Fury does,

879
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: from changing the guard that the opponent is using, to

880
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: changing their tactics where they came out in opposite stances

881
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: and then switch to the other side, and all these games.

882
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what any maybe Usik. Maybe Usik has

883
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: the boxing IQ to handle someone like Fury. But then

884
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: you go to the size and the other parts that

885
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't think any of these

886
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: heavyweights can beat him. We don't know that until we

887
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: have we can see them fight it out. But there

888
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: are so many layers to what Tyson Fury does, including

889
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: BC to having a nearly five minute walkout in fifty

890
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: degree weather where Dillion White just has to sit there

891
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: and chill is he gets called a big dawser by

892
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: some announcer, and then there's this karaoke party that Tyson

893
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Fury has. I mean, there's just the level of involvement,

894
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: from the strategy to the execution to everything else that

895
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: he comes up with is so next level. These guys

896
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: are not playing on the same wavelengths, no, I mean

897
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: not even a little bit.

898
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: Look, White had been stopped twice in the past twenty

899
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: fifteen against Anthony Joshua just about two three years ago

900
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: against Alexander Povekan, and both came via an uppercut. So

901
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: you have to look at how well they studied White.

902
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: That the twelve week training camp that we talked about,

903
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: which which can be double what can happen for most

904
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: fighters in a big fight. Although sometimes you'll see eight

905
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: week camps they landed that same shot. It was perfect

906
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: and Luke, if you really want to break down the technique,

907
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: it was off the jab, but Fury paused after the

908
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: jab to allow White to begin moving in and that's

909
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: why the uppercut was so perfect in the timing of it.

910
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: Where Yeah, we want to and we need to see

911
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: him against the winner of Aj Usik two. Aj is

912
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: always going to be a you know, six six and

913
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: a puncher, so it's always going to be worth watching.

914
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: And despite Fury being favored, but I do agree with

915
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 2: you that Usik is the is the interesting matchup that

916
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: that long term, separate from the Enganu talk, separate from

917
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: anything else. Usik is the potential matchup if he gets

918
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: by Joshua again, that at the very least we can

919
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: say we've never seen Fury tangle with that, right, We've

920
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: seen him tangle with a blown up cruiserweight and Steve

921
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: Cunningham before, who gave Fury trump. Cunningham dropped him in

922
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen in Madison Square Garden in the theater. But uh,

923
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be some theory Ford.

924
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Too, don't you, Grea. It's a different Fury than the

925
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: one that Steve Cunningham.

926
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: Thought, God, absolutely, that's a fat Fury. Back then, that's

927
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: a Fury who I was working for ESPN at the

928
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: time and we had a camera crew there and as

929
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: soon as he finished his final interview at that fight

930
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: in the theater at mess Square Garden, he walked across

931
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: to that Irish prop across the street and spent them

932
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: the whole the rest of the day there, Luke, I mean,

933
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: that's a that is a different Tyson Fury in a

934
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: lot of ways. But you know, commit I mean, look

935
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: back back to full circle, back to the first question,

936
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: and he asked me in my answer, the commitment is

937
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: at a level that it's not been in a long

938
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: ass time, Luke. And it's it's you know, it's funny.

939
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: I did a I did a couple of radio hits.

940
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: I'm sure you might have done too. Ahead of this fight.

941
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: I was on with Boise Idaho, Luke, and they're like,

942
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: you know, Fury looks so fat, how's he gonna do it.

943
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, actually, he's in better shape than normal.

944
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: It's you just have to get used to the fact

945
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: that that's who he is. He's already a unique freaking

946
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: nature and even with the giant belly, Luke, we've never

947
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: seen anything like him before. And if he stays this

948
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: dialed in, and if he commits to the power punching

949
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: this time, that's that that might all that might end

950
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: up being the difference if he ends up facing Usik

951
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: for the underspeed the championship. His ability to finish guys

952
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: and do it from distance too, Luke, damn this. I mean, look,

953
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: I've always been an admirer of Tyson Fury. I thought

954
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: he was ship up until the Klitschko fight, and I

955
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: mean that I thought, Look, I thought it was ship.

956
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: You know, last time, probably the last time Tyson Fury's

957
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: ever thrown a upper cut. You ever see that highlight

958
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: of early in his career. He went to throw an

959
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: upper cut and he and he punched himself and himself like,

960
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: that's early Tyson Fury. You know, he'd have a great performance,

961
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: then he'd be fat for three fights. This guy has

962
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: always been all over the map. But when he dials in, Luke, damn, damn.

963
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah a lot. Let's talk about Let's talk about his

964
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: power a little bit, because everyone's like, oh, he's got

965
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: huge power. Now, well, okay, I.

966
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: Don't place placement right.

967
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: So here's here's he has. Do you remember when we

968
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: would be like, oh man, Connor's got that left hand

969
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: power in mma and then he went over to boxing

970
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: and you know it didn't quite translate as well. There

971
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of sort of talk about you know,

972
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: what is the source of his power, and a lot

973
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: of it is, yes, he has he's a big strong

974
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: one to fifty five at this point anyway, but you

975
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: know it's a big strong one forty five or for

976
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: a lot of it. But the other part was just

977
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the accuracy of it, the timing of it, the placement

978
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: of it right. There was just so many other parts

979
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: where he would when he would finally fire, it had

980
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: some heft to it. But these other factors about placement

981
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: and timing of the guy's not seeing it coming, all

982
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: of it added up to boom, he has a sniper effect.

983
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: That's more what I would say is happening here. We

984
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: talked about it on Friday. The one thing I think

985
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: that really held up from our Friday analysis because a

986
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: lot of it was probably pretty wrong. But the part

987
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: that did hold up was that, like, yes, the extra

988
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: weight and this new style, although he was in the

989
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: backfoot here because White was pressing into him. But the

990
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: new style generally allows him to throw much more significant force.

991
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: But the real difference is there's a added force and

992
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: B White was walking into that punch. He did not

993
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: see it coming, and that's what really takes it over

994
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: to the next level. But the reason why he walked

995
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: into it and didn't see it coming is because Tyson

996
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: Fury sets traps and it has a boxing IQ that

997
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: is just beyond what any of his competitors up to

998
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: this present moment anyway, have been able to show. So

999
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: I want to be clear about that. The power is real,

1000
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: but it's not the full story of the knockout.

1001
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: It's not, no, but just the fact that he's figured

1002
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: out how to make the best of his body. And look,

1003
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's six ' nine two frickin' what seventy

1004
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: sixty whatever he thought. I mean, dude, if he's gonna

1005
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: stand at range, especially with that right hand, and connect

1006
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: with something that he commits to, you got you gotta

1007
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: chance to get knocked the heull. You got a chance

1008
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: to get knocked the hell out. And by the way,

1009
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: one of I looked at White's comments again the main

1010
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: thing he focused on. He says he was buzzed by

1011
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: the upper cut, but he wasn't knocked out until he

1012
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: was pushed and he hit the back of his head

1013
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: on the canvas. But Luke, if you watch those replays,

1014
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: he never actually hit the back of his head on

1015
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: the canvas and his eyes were out of it as

1016
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: he fell, So I pull that out of the equation.

1017
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 2: I'm also being told by Jy Bone on Twitter, Luke,

1018
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: that we should have considered Matt Hughes slamming himself unconscious

1019
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: as part of the u UFC slam list. Is that true?

1020
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but he woke up and they didn't count it,

1021
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: so you can so.

1022
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 2: Hey, j Bone get wrecked right there. But Luke, I mean,

1023
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: what a boon did the heavyweight division to have a

1024
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: star like this? You know, he did reveal in the

1025
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: postfight interview that all this talk about retirement did start

1026
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: ahead of the third Wilder fight, when he promised his

1027
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: wife Paris that he would step aside, but then broke

1028
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 2: the promise for the chance to come back to the UK.

1029
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: And we know that with that win bonus four point

1030
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: one million that the WBC somehow worked into the contract.

1031
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: You know, he made upwards a thirty something million for this.

1032
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: Now I'm being told that both his wife, Paris Hilton,

1033
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: and his trainer sugar Hill.

1034
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: Stewart said after Paris, Paris Helton's his wife, did.

1035
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: I say Paris Hilton again, did I do that? I

1036
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: think Joe tested that too, Paris Fury. They are both

1037
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: saying now that they expect Tyson to wait until he

1038
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: becomes the underspeeded champion and then retire. And Luke again,

1039
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: even with his mental unpredictability, there ain't no way he's

1040
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: letting somebody else hold up all four belts. There's just

1041
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: not anyway. It's just not happening. Luke, you know you

1042
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 2: want to be the heavy will before before.

1043
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: We go to the next question, though, let me let

1044
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: me ask you before we go to the next question,

1045
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: let me ask you about this. We have to talk

1046
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: about it. Does Tyson Fury for the reasons I mentioned

1047
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: before too, by the way, about making white weight, does

1048
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: he have the best walkouts in boxing?

1049
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: I think he's tied with Anthony Joshua and Luke, I think.

1050
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: I think it's better than Joshua. Joshua was our big

1051
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: Canelos are big this year.

1052
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: She was Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Joshua comes out with

1053
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: those giant, lit up AJ letters and then he lights

1054
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: him on fire with you.

1055
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he doesn't have that same fucking verve. Man,

1056
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: Come on, Luke.

1057
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: I said this in the in the post show. I

1058
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: think Fury was getting a little jealous because he was

1059
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: out of boxing when Anthony Joshua became a star, and

1060
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: then Fury was fighting in America upon his comeback, I

1061
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: think he was a little jealous at watching Fury do

1062
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 2: eighty and ninety k in these stadiums and come out

1063
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: like a rock star. I think that's why this fight

1064
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: was super important to him. You can't sit here and

1065
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: tell me that Furies are considerably better. Also, Luke, people

1066
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: will forget this because the fight.

1067
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: They're better for me, But go ahead.

1068
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: People will forget this because the fight sucked the damn horn.

1069
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you remember. In twenty eleven,

1070
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: we thought we had a heavyweight unification title fight between

1071
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: Vladimir Klitschko and David Hay that was going to put

1072
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: that shitty era of bad heavyweight run behind us. Unfortunately,

1073
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: David Hay, with the injured toe, didn't try to fight,

1074
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: and it was a shitty fight. The ring entrances for

1075
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: that they were in Germany were next fucking level that

1076
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: you had like actors sitting on like a park bench

1077
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: reading a newspaper and the newspaper came alive, Like Luke,

1078
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: that was something we've never seen before. But yeah, come on,

1079
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: you're in AJ are in the same sentence here, don't

1080
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: mess with that. Look, they're way better.

1081
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: AJ to me, feels like a king who walks out

1082
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: and expects reception. Tyson Fury, to me, feels like a

1083
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: guy who walks out and wants to join the karaoke party.

1084
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel the same to me at all.

1085
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: But I'll say that the grandiosity of both is cannot

1086
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: be ignored, all right, before we go to the next topic,

1087
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: last one on this part of the equation. This is

1088
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: something that occurred to me. But styles make fights, and

1089
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: so you don't want to do mma or boxing math,

1090
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: which is to say, maybe, can we have some renewed

1091
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: respect for what Deontay Wilder was able to do with

1092
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: a limited skill set against Tyson Fury. I understand that

1093
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: you could get a result where White could box Wilder

1094
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: and beat him up and then you would say, well,

1095
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean a whole lot, but I don't know, BC

1096
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: after not quite thirty six rounds but twenty four plus

1097
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: twenty eight rounds or so whatever it was, thirty rounds

1098
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: ish of finding Tyson Fury. He had a lot more

1099
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: success than a lot of these other heavyweights who we

1100
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: herald as being better than Deontay Wilder. He had significantly

1101
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: more success than them. What's the story with how you

1102
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: reevaluate what Wilder was able to do?

1103
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I even I might even

1104
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 2: get end up getting dead wrong later this week, because

1105
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: when we were talking Friday previewing this fight and saying,

1106
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: you know, who do you think of the five best

1107
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: heavyweights right now? I was sort of pushing Wilder back.

1108
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: We don't know if he's going to come back, you know,

1109
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: But the reality is, you know, Wilder beat Luis Artist

1110
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: twice when Arties was still pretty damn dangerous, and he

1111
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: beat everybody else not named Tyson Fury. Now Wilder because

1112
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: he was soft matched for most of it, and then

1113
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: because he couldn't access the larger names. Although Dezonne did

1114
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: offer him one hundred million to fight John twice, and

1115
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: he turned that down, But you get my point. We

1116
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: didn't get to see him against everybody. But yeah, Luke,

1117
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: nobody has this type of success against Fury, and he

1118
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: had it a couple times flawed as absolute shit, but nobody,

1119
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: especially that third fight, Nobody can take away the all

1120
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: time great championship heart that Deontay Wilder brought. Look, his

1121
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: reactions to defeats have been rough him blame and size

1122
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: and Fury for cheating sixteen ways in his corner for

1123
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: drugging him. That was rough. But Luke, we already recognized

1124
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: him as one of the greatest punchers in history. And

1125
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: you just have to say that one skill he had

1126
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: was so freaking great that it was the one kryptonite

1127
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: that the greatest heavyweight of this era had to get

1128
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: himself up off the deck four separate times in three

1129
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: fights against. So yes, let's put respect back on Deontay

1130
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: Wilder's name, who absolutely maxed himself out for a guy

1131
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: who came to boxing at age nineteen and was still

1132
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: crude as shit after winning a championship, defending it a

1133
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: bunch of times getting rocked by guys like Molina that

1134
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have been, you know what I mean? But

1135
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: yet inevitably putting those guys away. Wild there's still I

1136
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: think Luke a problem for anybody if he can come

1137
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: back with that same mindset he had in the third

1138
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: Fury fight. But I agree that I'm glad that you

1139
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: brought this up. We do need to look back and say, like,

1140
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: you know, hate them all you want for any reason,

1141
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: but Wild there's in there against anyone in history too,

1142
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: because again, Luke, it goes to the physics of it,

1143
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: the physicality of it. Wild there's six foot seven, a

1144
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: great athlete, even if he doesn't isn't known for technique

1145
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: or footwork or things like that, but an explosive athlete

1146
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: and arguably the biggest puncher we've ever seen. So yeah,

1147
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: you're damn right. He for whatever his version of great was,

1148
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: I think he got all of it.

1149
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: Luke, I'll just say this. You know, to knock down

1150
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury four times is remarkable, and I've cut when

1151
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: you again. We knew a couple of those times, especially

1152
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: the first one from the first fight. Fury getting up

1153
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: from that is borderline miraculous. But the thing I would

1154
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: say is not just getting that result, but getting that

1155
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: result with how limited his skill set. It's because do

1156
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: when you watch him box, you know, you can say

1157
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: that Wilder overperformed or are you performed well, whatever you

1158
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: want to say, but you can't make an argument that,

1159
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: oh no, his boxing actually is super high level. It's

1160
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Roy Jones esque. It's not. That's not what it is.

1161
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: So to have as limited a skill seys as he has,

1162
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: although with absolutely monstrous power, he maximized the shit out

1163
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: of that and went a lot further than a lot

1164
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: of critics thought he could go, and a lot further

1165
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: than a lot of these other big talking heavyweights thought

1166
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: they could do against Tyson Fury, Wilder had significantly more

1167
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: success than them, And I think that's part of the

1168
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: story as well.

1169
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, Luke, If tomorrow the

1170
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 2: same version of Deontay Wilder that was willing to risk

1171
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: it all against Fury in the third fight, if he

1172
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: fights in succession Dillian White, Anthony Joshua and Alexander Usik,

1173
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: what's his in Andy Ruiz? Right? Okay, those four in

1174
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: a row. What's his record coming out of that?

1175
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder, Yeah, I think he beats I think he

1176
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: beats Ruiz, I think he beats Joshua does not meet Usick,

1177
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.

1178
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a tougher one to call

1179
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: because whites is a is a fucking bowl as well. Yeah,

1180
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: but he gets at a bare minimum. I think he

1181
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: gets two of them. And Joshua was a much better

1182
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: boxer as well. I don't think he can stay away

1183
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: from Deonta's power for twelve rounds. I don't, I really don't.

1184
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: And that was the difference. Fury tried to dance around

1185
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: it and it didn't really work. Fury went after it,

1186
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: he went into the storm, and that's the difference. I

1187
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: don't think AJ has that gear or that durability, and

1188
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: I think that's what make the difference between those.

1189
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: That willingness. While AJ has spectacular knockouts when he gets

1190
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: people hurt, does he have the willingness to walk in

1191
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: there and risk at all?

1192
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: No, Luke, he didn't think.

1193
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: So he didn't even do that against Usick. He tried

1194
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: to out box Usick, right, he.

1195
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Did, and it didn't work, and Usik was just a

1196
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: better box This is what I mean. It's like Joshua

1197
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: is a formidable package of different boxing, great parts but

1198
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: the reality is the vulnerabilities that his temporaries could take

1199
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: advantage of. Giving their particular skills and what they're good at,

1200
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: it's too hard to ignore. He doesn't have that chin

1201
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: or that and you look at there with second Ruik

1202
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: like compare the first and second Wilder Fury fights with

1203
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: the first and second Ruiz fight. In terms of the strategy,

1204
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, Joshua went, I'm gonna stay the fuck away

1205
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: from this guy, and Fury goes, I'm gonna back this

1206
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: motherfucker up. Big difference, Big difference. All right, BC point

1207
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: number four. We'll stay with Fury, but we're gonna switch

1208
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: to something that is I hadn't even planned to really

1209
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: talk about this, but then Francis and Gan, who got

1210
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: in the ring with him Tyson Fury joked about his hog.

1211
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: All kinds of craziness went down. He seemed to put

1212
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: a pause on their retirement. He did not say exactly

1213
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: which way he was going to go b C, But

1214
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: the question I would have for you is as follows.

1215
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: They did specifically hype up a potential bout with UFC

1216
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: Heavyweight champion Francis and Ghanu Bob Aram after the fact,

1217
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: saying I don't know if we can make this done,

1218
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: but in theory it should be quite easy to do.

1219
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: Is this a the right fight to make given the

1220
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: circumstances and b let's let's say it now. Is this

1221
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: fight going to happen in twenty twenty two?

1222
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: Look, dude, before that postfight interview, I would have said,

1223
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, fun to talk about, but for a lot

1224
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: of different reasons, I just don't see it. Then suddenly

1225
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: they're in the ring together. Then he's like, hey, Frank,

1226
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: you know, if you got a big you know, let

1227
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: us all search it right out. Let's find out how

1228
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: hard you gotta work it. So look suddenly it is

1229
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: a conversation. Should Tyson Fury want to be a part

1230
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: of this? I say, no, Luke, you just made thirty

1231
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: something million, you know what I mean? Like you just

1232
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: in a very tough fight, but also a mandatory title defense. Dude, Tyson,

1233
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: when that on disputed opportunity comes, let's say Usik and

1234
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: Joshua fight this summer. I mean, Luke, in theory, we

1235
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: could be doing the undisputed championship fight in November or December.

1236
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, in theory, you could be doing it this

1237
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: calendar year. Luke. If Anthony Joshua comes back and knocks

1238
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: out Usik and we go right into it four belt

1239
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: undisputed chair, I mean, like you're printing money.

1240
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1241
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm inde a joke, like, let's find a cornfield in

1242
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: the UK where we can fit three hundred people, three

1243
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people into it. Let's shatter all the records

1244
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: because it's that big of a fight. I don't think Fury,

1245
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: as long as he doesn't get hurt or suffer some

1246
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: type of ridiculous loss, I don't think that's going to

1247
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: stop him from seeking the undisputed championship fight early next year.

1248
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not here to say, hey, Theory, you can't

1249
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: go make this in theory easy money like Connor did

1250
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: in the midst of his prime, like anybody, right, you

1251
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: can't say that to him. He's a boxer, he has

1252
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: control over his own brand. He went to WWE for

1253
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: the same reason to make money, get exposure. He was

1254
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: one of the worst celebrity wrestlers we've ever seen, Luke,

1255
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: which is why every time he teases that he's gonna

1256
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: come back, You're like, but my whole point is Luke

1257
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: I would wish that he wouldn't want to do this

1258
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: until after he was officially done chasing world titles and

1259
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: greatness in the ring, and now in that pot for

1260
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: an interview, they talked about mixed rules. So look, we've

1261
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: heard in the past that that you know, they say, Okay,

1262
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: why don't we do four once gloves? Why don't we

1263
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: do something to try to even the stakes? If this

1264
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: was a pure boxing match, you know, I would want

1265
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it.

1266
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: It.

1267
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Could it still sell if it was a pure boxing match, Yeah,

1268
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: probably for the spectacle of it. But I think if

1269
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: they do commit to making an actual mixed rules like

1270
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: what if what if Fury actually agreed to these parts

1271
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Speaker 2: of it Luke, which is part of the BKFC slash

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Speaker 2: triller versus sort of way of.

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Speaker 1: I have an idea about that. I have an idea

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: So well, let me tell you what what if you

1276
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: did four once gloves, you allowed Clint, you allowed heavy

1277
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: clinching and dirty boxing, and you did it in a cage.

1278
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Speaker 2: I do as much as again, I don't want to

1279
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: see that right now because I want to see Fury fully,

1280
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: fully capable and ready to face the winner of Joshua

1281
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 2: Usik too. But if it has to go that way

1282
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: and they can get everybody to say yes, I do

1283
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: admit you've got a spectacle on your hands. I mean,

1284
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: you've got something that people are getting turned into whether

1285
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: you think, no matter what you do to the rules,

1286
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: Fury's still gonna win that. And let's not forget Fury

1287
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: is a fight in man, Luke. He comes from a

1288
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: legacy of bare knuckle people. He is crazy enough to

1289
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: put on the four once gloves and go in there

1290
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 2: with in Ghano. You're damn right, he is crazy enough.

1291
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: I kind of wish he wasn't, though, Luke. I don't

1292
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 2: get how everybody Brett Ariel on Twitter's like, yeah, man,

1293
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: this is gonna be great, Like is it this bad time?

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Speaker 1: If it's a boxing match. If it's a boxing match,

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01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: it's a giant waste of time that makes a giant

1296
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: amount of money. Let's put it that way. If they

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Speaker 1: end up having a regular boxing match between Tyson Fury

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Speaker 1: and Francis and Ganu, God bless Francis, he'll get the

1299
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: amount of money that he has long wanted that he

1300
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: is owed. I take nothing from him. I'd be happy

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: for him and his family. They'd be set up for

1302
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: generations on the amount of money that I think that

1303
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: they would make, and I mean that quite sincerely. Are

1304
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: they'd be a great thing to see. But in terms

1305
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: of like a fight, I don't have I have less

1306
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: than zero interest in seeing any of that because everyone

1307
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: needs to understand something. It's not just that Fury is

1308
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: a good boxer, dude, and Francis has big power, but

1309
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Speaker 1: A we don't know how Francis's power would translate through

1310
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Speaker 1: the gloves and in sort of a boxing context. And

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Speaker 1: B you have to hit Tyson Fury. It's pretty hard

1312
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: to hit, pretty hard to hit clean anyway. Ask Dillian

1313
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Speaker 1: White about that. So that doesn't make any sense to me.

1314
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree that it has to

1315
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: be in the cage, because that seems like a bridge

1316
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: too far. But I'll say this BC. You know, watching

1317
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: What One Championship, I go back to it, dude, I

1318
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: go back to it watching the muy Thie rules in

1319
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: a cage with the four ounce gloves. It's fucking awesome.

1320
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Speaker 1: It's great, it's really really good. They could put it

1321
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: in a ring. They can put in a cage. But

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: I think if Tyson Fury was willing to put four

1323
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: ounce gloves on, I gotta tell you that might be

1324
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: enough of a wildcard because Tyson would still be infinitely

1325
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: better at boxing. But dude, we just know for a fact.

1326
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Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want about Francis's skill. You go,

1327
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: look we did to Alistair Overreiman the four ounce gloves.

1328
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Speaker 1: His power is simply not really incontestable. It's historic. It's

1329
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: historic that to me, I gotta admit, it's still be

1330
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: spectacle as shit, but I would want to see it.

1331
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Speaker 1: My only point I would want to make beyond that

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Speaker 1: BC is if Joshua does beat Usik, then Fury has

1333
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: to fight them. I agree that that fight would be

1334
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: huge for the UK, huge for the division, huge for boxing,

1335
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: huge for every player involved. But if Usik goes in

1336
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: there and beats them again, fuck it, man, Let's throw

1337
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: the four ounce gloves on these guys in a ring

1338
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Speaker 1: or a cage or whatever, and let's see what happens.

1339
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Speaker 1: Because I don't yes, Usik versus Fury would be great

1340
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: as well as well to see, But at that point,

1341
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: if he's really willing to make a real hybrid rules match,

1342
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: I honestly might be more interested in that version if Joshua.

1343
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: I have key questions about the viability of this, so

1344
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: I need to answer you to answer quickly. What's the

1345
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: difference in money do you believe that Fury could make

1346
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: against Usik for all four belts in front of you

1347
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: know how many people they can fit in Webley. Let's

1348
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: go say they go up to ninety eight thousand and

1349
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: this mixed rules fight at whatever Las Vegas Raiders stadium

1350
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: there against what's the difference in paycheck for Fury in

1351
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: that in your eyes?

1352
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: Assuming we're not talking like taxes and shit like that,

1353
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: because I don't know how that would fit in.

1354
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: But no tax in Vegas for them? Right on the

1355
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: income tax.

1356
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there could be taxes about what you

1357
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: make in the States, plus that you got to pay

1358
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: it in the UK depending on your I don't know

1359
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: the tax. I'm just saying, let's just talk about the

1360
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: check that gets cut. I mean, obviously he's going to

1361
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: make a fuck ton either way. B See. I guess

1362
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: this is a little harder for me to say. Would

1363
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: what would be the guaranteed amount for both boxers Fury

1364
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: and Joshua if they fought at Wembley in front of

1365
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: one hundred k something like that. What would be the

1366
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: guaranteed person for both.

1367
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Speaker 2: Oh, for Fury and Joshua. This is where I don't

1368
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: really have an answer because the demand, you know, the

1369
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: key people always say, you know why in the US

1370
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: outside of look, we had a few fights at Jerry World,

1371
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: just said, who got spenced? You know, We've had Canelo

1372
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: there a few times, Pacquiao when it first opened. But

1373
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: you see, more often than not the big fights in

1374
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: the States go to Vegas. Why because they can charge

1375
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: large exorbitant amount for the tickets to the high rollers,

1376
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: to the casinos, to whatever. In the UK, not only

1377
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: are the pay per views priced much more reasonably, the

1378
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: tickets are as well. This would be that type of

1379
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: fight where you take the Vegas model and you bring

1380
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: it to the stadium with one hundred thousand people. So

1381
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: if it's Joshua versus Fury, I'd have to believe, like

1382
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: not maywear their paki on money, but not that far off, Luke,

1383
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: I would really have to believe that. So what's the guarantee.

1384
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: Could the guarantee be you know, sixty million? I don't know, Like,

1385
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of freaking money there. My

1386
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: question I guess was if it ends up being uh sick,

1387
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: which means you wouldn't get as much money as Joshua

1388
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: if your Fury and you would justify wanting to do

1389
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 2: in Ghanu first. If that's the case, how much could

1390
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: he actually make against in Ghanu? How many pay per

1391
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: view guys with furronce gloves in a crossover spectacle considering

1392
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: Floyd versus Connor did two point four million, Luke pay

1393
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: per view buys, Like it's a ridiculous amount. How much

1394
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: could this one do to where you if you're a

1395
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury guy and you're saying, dude, you're one step

1396
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: away from being the four belt undisputed champion. If you

1397
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: ever wanted to retire un beating the time would be

1398
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: after that. Why are you risking something here against in Ghanuo? So,

1399
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,959
Speaker 2: like I guess the hedge part of that question, Luke

1400
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,959
Speaker 2: is if Fury lost to a Ghano in a mixed

1401
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: rules four once fight, how much would that damage his

1402
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: image and what he could make going back into the

1403
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: boxing ring to fight for the for all the heavyweight belts.

1404
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot on the table.

1405
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: Here, Luke. Yeah, there's a lot of risk I'll say this,

1406
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: whatever Fury versus Joshua might do, Fury versus in Ghanu

1407
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: would be I mean, those two it is hard to

1408
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: say that one would be significantly bigger than the other one,

1409
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: although it's hard to say as well. I don't really know,

1410
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: but I'll say this comfortably, whatever Fury would make fighting

1411
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: Usik fighting in Ghanu, and let's say the you know,

1412
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: the death Star of there in Vegas would be two

1413
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: or three x what he would make fighting Musik two

1414
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: or three xs. Oh wow, I think that's pretty I

1415
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: think that's pretty fair to say.

1416
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: And so and belief that this is a potential two

1417
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: million buy pay per view with ind and Fu because

1418
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: we don't have we don't have Floyd here. Connor's not

1419
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: coming through that door.

1420
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: Luke, Well, you said Floyd versus Connor was but two

1421
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: and something mill it was nearly five million, four plus.

1422
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm dead wrong, dead wrong with me. Right now,

1423
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: You're right, it was. It was just short of the

1424
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: Manipacia Floyd Mayweather.

1425
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: Pick four and a half versus four point six four.

1426
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: Right, you're right.

1427
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: I think Tyson Fury, honestly, I think Tyson Furry versus

1428
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Francis could do three. I really mean.

1429
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: That, dude, that's a lot of money. Okay, So I

1430
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: guess if that's the case, then I I guess you

1431
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: can't take away from Fury generational money because Luke, he

1432
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: made thirty plus million against Stellion White, but he wasn't

1433
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: making that to be fair against Wilder. I don't remember

1434
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: what his purse was in the other big fights Coultch

1435
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: going Wilder, but like, he wasn't making that. So if

1436
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: he does have that one night chance for his entire

1437
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 2: six kids to never have to work a day, I

1438
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: guess I understand. But here's the other elephant in the room, Luke.

1439
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: Because Bob Aram said, I think we can make it.

1440
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: The I think part centers around this. Does Francis and

1441
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: God who have to walk away from the UFC to

1442
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: make this fight? Is there any chance that Dana White

1443
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: goes We did make a shit ton of money co

1444
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: promoting Mayweather McGregor, which did four point four million pay

1445
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: per view bys and actually exceeded Mayweather Paccio from the

1446
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: standpoint of livegate and total income. Is that enough for

1447
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Dana White to completely switch gears, get in a room

1448
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: with the Disney executives, because let's remember ESPN has both

1449
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: UFC under contract and has Tyson Fury, although Ariel's reporting

1450
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: that Furies deal with Top Rank as a co promoter

1451
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 2: is now completed. But you get what I'm saying here,

1452
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: it's familiarity. Could you get Dana White to say yes

1453
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: just to guarantee that he keeps in Ghanu in house

1454
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: and you can make some easy money here, Luke.

1455
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: Well, a couple things. I mean, we don't even we

1456
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: don't need the UFC in this equation. I don't like,

1457
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: why are we introducing them here?

1458
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: Because true or false, if Francis says yes to this fight,

1459
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: then he has to say no to the UFC, because

1460
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: we know his deal is officially up at the end

1461
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: of this calendar year. He's going through knee surgery. Nobody

1462
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: knows that francis coming back to the octagon, but if

1463
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: he is, he's got to sign a new deal, which

1464
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: in theory you would think Dana White going no, no, no, no, no.

1465
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: We make enough money nowadays, we don't need to do

1466
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: this crossover co promotion boxing bullshit.

1467
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: See here's the thing. I mean, where UFC gets involved,

1468
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the part that could be interesting.

1469
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: Is ESPN must be looking at this and going fellas.

1470
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: We got to be able to do a deal here.

1471
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: We've got top rank, which I know you know Tyson

1472
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: has sort of worked through, but it has obviously a

1473
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: good relationship with him. This has been a fruitful partnership.

1474
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: We've got top rank here, We've got UFC here. We

1475
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: should be able to find a way to accommodate this.

1476
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: We've got all of the different apparati in boxing and

1477
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: MMA and all of our sports shows. We could blow

1478
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: this thing up to the nth degree. They could make

1479
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: this bigger than it ever could be. Let's just get

1480
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: a deal done here. So there's part of that being.

1481
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: But look, if you're Dana, you don't want to start trend.

1482
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: You don't want to start a precedence to your fighters.

1483
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: We're in a We're not a key point in the

1484
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: fighter pay evolution, right.

1485
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: I guess Nick, I guess this will This will tell

1486
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: us a lot about where the UFC ghest from here.

1487
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: Are they gonna hold the line and say, yeah, Connor

1488
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: can do it and the rest of you guys can

1489
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: fuck off, or we're gonna bend a little bit more.

1490
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: When the circumstances call for it. And again this is

1491
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: a pretty rare circumstance too. Tyson Fury versus uh, excuse

1492
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: me versus Francis and Gon who was not something that's

1493
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen all that often? Remember we all I thought

1494
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: that Gone was gonna win and then we were gonna

1495
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: be in this scenario. But I I wonder maybe you yeah,

1496
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: because UFC might be like, we'd still rather have him

1497
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: than not have him, right. But the other part is

1498
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: to the UFC might be like, yeah, you're gonna go

1499
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 1: there and gets Tyson Fury, You're gonna get fucking bludgeon.

1500
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 1: We don't want to do business with you either. Plus

1501
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: and God who's getting a little bit older. They might

1502
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: let him walk, dude, they might let him walk.

1503
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: You know they might because a lot of people d

1504
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: M me and go BC like fun analysis, great job

1505
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: yelling at the camera, but the dude's thirty five with

1506
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 2: bad knees, Like, is that the guy you want to

1507
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: throw stupid money out? I do? I do agree. There

1508
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: is the Wildcard Conversation of Disney. Disney forced Dana to

1509
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: stand down on the Taichi Palace tobaccle, which ended with

1510
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: your boy BC as the centerpiece of a four minute

1511
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: media hit job video. Yeah yeah, brother, but you know,

1512
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: could they turn that turn Dana's hand? I don't know.

1513
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Quick quick reporting here from our our great producer, Mikey

1514
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 2: Mormoal Luke, he's saying that. In the Fury versus Wilder rivalry,

1515
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: to compare Payday's, Wilder made four million for the first

1516
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: fight against Fury, while Fury made three. In the second fight,

1517
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: they were both guaranteed five, but according to Dan Rayfield

1518
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: made upwards of twenty five apiece based on everything else,

1519
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: pay per viewpoints, all that, and then the third fight

1520
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: last fall, Fury made thirty million, Wilder made twenty. So

1521
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: you're seeing Fury's evolution into making you know, stupid Floyd money.

1522
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1523
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: We're getting there again, Luke. It's not He's not gonna

1524
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: listen to me saying, hey, Fury, can you wait until

1525
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: after you become unders be the champion to make this

1526
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: and gan and money. The timing does seem to be

1527
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: right now, Luke. I'm not here for it. I'm not

1528
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: Aeriel and Brett getting all excited. But four ounce gloves

1529
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: and a chance at three million pay per view buys,

1530
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 2: no one's turning that down, Luke. No one, no one.

1531
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: Uh No, they're not, they're not. My wife is telling

1532
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: me someone broke into our car. This is terrible. Right now?

1533
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: Are they there?

1534
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm not sure what happened. But in any event,

1535
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: all right.

1536
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: Are there any Colombian relatives in your house right now

1537
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: who could kick some ass?

1538
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: No, they're all gone. All right, let's move to point

1539
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 1: number five HERBC, because we do need to move the

1540
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: show along. Let's talk about Bellator very quickly. There's a

1541
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that happened. They had two shows. They

1542
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: just ended. I swear to god, the postlambs just finished.

1543
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing this dad joke because I don't

1544
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: know who I mean. I just cannot believe they decided

1545
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 1: to start a five fight card with three five round

1546
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: schedule fights on them at ten thirty East Coast time.

1547
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: It's like you're trying to put your best foot forward

1548
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: so people will watch your product. This was the opposite

1549
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: choice you should have made. But okay, that's just me

1550
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: thinking out loud. Let's start here BC Friday Night, Liz

1551
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: Carmush got the win over Juliana Velasquez. But I don't

1552
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: know about that stoppage, dude, Mike Beltran is a good referee.

1553
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: But here's my view. You fucked up this stoppage. Do

1554
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: you agree?

1555
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, he fucked it up big time, and I

1556
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: hate to see it because it was going to be

1557
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: a great moment for thirty eight year old Liz Carmouche,

1558
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: who had fought unsuccessfully for the Strikeforce title for two

1559
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: different UFC titles, to come back and find sort of

1560
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: this final gear of which she's aggressive. And look, she

1561
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: was aggressive in this first round, not what and not

1562
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: be level aggressive, but she was aggressive and then that

1563
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: aggression stopped and she was passive. So if she's gonna

1564
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: win this title, you want her to do it triumphantly.

1565
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: You want it to be a moment, Luke, it was anything.

1566
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: But did she have the champion and a crucifix in

1567
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: Was she landing clean elbows in the closing seconds of

1568
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: the round. Yes, But Luke, although I'm not the person

1569
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: taking those elbows, it didn't look like they had the

1570
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: speed or power to even threaten breaking the skin. They

1571
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: are clean shots. But Velaskaz looked fine. There were the

1572
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: seconds ticking off, And here's the distinction. Whenever people say

1573
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: Whenever there's a stoppage in the closing seconds of a

1574
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: fight and people say, oh, come on, the referee should

1575
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: have known the circumstance, I always say, I disagree. If

1576
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: the referee sees a fighter who can no longer continue,

1577
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: it goes back to the Chavez versus Meldrick Taylor debate

1578
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 2: with Richard Steele nineteen ninety, one of the greatest boxing

1579
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: title matches ever. If a guy, even with one second left,

1580
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: if a man or woman looks like they can't continue,

1581
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: you stop the fight, Luke, I disagree. It did not

1582
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 2: look anywhere close like Julianna Velaskaz could not continue in

1583
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: this fight. I think that is a situation where Beltran

1584
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: has to know the situation. Velaskiz is counting down the

1585
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: seconds of the round. Yes, she can't fire back because

1586
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: she's stuck in a crucifix, but look, she's not even

1587
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: visibly getting hurt. I mean, I don't get it. You

1588
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: you are simplified never die as carmution. Beltran also are,

1589
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: This wasn't some back room handshake marine deal, right, I mean,

1590
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see how you justify the stoppage

1591
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: in the championship fight under any circumstance.

1592
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think you can justify it.

1593
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what Mike Beltran saw to make that call,

1594
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: so we'd have we'd have to hear from him. But

1595
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: of course commissions don't ever make referees ever justify their

1596
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: decisions to the public. So that will remain a mystery

1597
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. But when you go

1598
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: back and you watch it, it's simply not clear. To

1599
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: your point, I think you stated it quite correctly. Was

1600
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 1: she in a bad spot, She was in a bad spot.

1601
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: Was she being hit? She was being hit. Were the

1602
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: shots all that damaging? No, they were not hardly I'm

1603
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: not gonna say they were nothing, but they were not.

1604
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: Or this wasn't serious. But this was not dangerous. She

1605
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: was not being rocked, She was not getting her head bounced.

1606
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: She wasn't even cut open. There was not there was.

1607
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: It was a little more than busy work, for sure,

1608
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: it was. It was important work. So this is it

1609
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: you can see here. And also it should be noted too,

1610
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: Velasquez was beginning to turn the title a little bit.

1611
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: Carmush did come out with a strong early kind of

1612
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: performance and then was kind of fading as the rounds

1613
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: went on. She got dropped from a punch I think

1614
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this round or whatever it was.

1615
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: I can't remember that part either, But again, look at

1616
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: these these are serious. But then you just stopped right there.

1617
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: This is what are we doing? This is no no, no, no,

1618
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: no no. This was way way too early to take

1619
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: someone's title from them. Velasquez and her team immediately protested.

1620
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: She seemed quite coherent. Bad call, Scott Cooker saying, we

1621
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: probably might run this back. They should, bad bad call.

1622
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: Here's why they really should because the next night, Luke,

1623
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: of course, hometown favorite of Lee Mala McFarlane, came out

1624
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: to the incredible entrance with the traditional Hawaiian culture. There

1625
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: was great to see. But she's coming back in her

1626
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: first fight since losing to Velasquez for the title, and Luke,

1627
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 2: it turns out it was just ten Kiss shitting all

1628
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: over her for once. Luke, right, that was a great

1629
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: performance from Kiss from the standpoint of just going in

1630
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: there and doing what she had to do. But that

1631
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: took away the need to slide McFarland back in. Now

1632
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 2: you have to run this back, dude. This ain't a

1633
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: deep division. To begin with. We know that now you

1634
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: have to run this back. And by the way, he shout, just.

1635
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: Look, it's rate your own joke, Rate your own Justine

1636
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: Kish shit shitting on them joke? Would you get where

1637
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: would you put that? Out of ten?

1638
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: I told you, I'll give me a six and a

1639
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: half seven for that.

1640
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: That was more like a three or three.

1641
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 2: Or hanging fruit for sure. But I did slice that

1642
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: ship up fruit and in just style. Look remember one

1643
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: of the early iPads.

1644
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: Since you jumped around on the rundown, we'll jump to

1645
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: that one here. Point to answer your question, yes it does.

1646
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: It does also feed into the point that you have

1647
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: to run car motion and blast Kis back. But also

1648
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: b C. How bad was that loss for McFarland. That

1649
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: was a bad loss.

1650
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: It was bad. It was bad, And it wasn't that

1651
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 2: she was completely flat. I mean Kish was stubborn and

1652
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: sort of closed down, you know, things that that McFarland

1653
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: was trying to do. And look, Kish is world class.

1654
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: Ish Luke, I mean, you're just fun. The US fount

1655
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: a high level. It was a good performance for her,

1656
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: But you're right, this was almost a showcase. This was

1657
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: like a homecoming. Get well and it didn't happen, Luke.

1658
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: And you know why I was happy for Kish, Luke,

1659
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 2: because it goes back to school, like when one kid

1660
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: does that one embarrassing thing or has it happened to him,

1661
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: and they never live it down, Luke, Right, you know

1662
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, there was this one guy that

1663
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: went to high school with He had one testicle removed, Luke,

1664
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: probably for a medical emergency, but he was uniball the

1665
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: rest of his life. You know.

1666
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: Oh we had we had a guy like that, but

1667
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: we called him the unibomber.

1668
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: Well that's better, that's better. But like my point is,

1669
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: everyone knows somebody in their life who accidentally pissed their

1670
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: pants or you know what I mean, whatever, whatever the

1671
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: thing is. Right, Like, there was this kid, Nick clay

1672
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: Birth was firing miny donuts across the cafeteria. Our senior

1673
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: hit this kid right in the ear, right in the

1674
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: damn ear, Luke. It was donut in his ear hole.

1675
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: We called that kid donut Ear for the rest of

1676
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: his life, Luke. I don't even know the guy's name.

1677
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: He's fucking donut got We got to move along from

1678
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: donut ear, uh BC, sticking with the Friday Night Card.

1679
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: Very quickly, Danny Sabtello running over Jordelle Lugo. He'll now

1680
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: face Leandre Ego in the Bellatore Grand Prix. He gets

1681
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: his way and he beat the shit out of Lugo,

1682
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: fair or unfair. He's the new dark horse in the tournament.

1683
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 2: Yes, and I have to apologize for not seeing this coming,

1684
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: not knowing what we had here, what Belatore has here

1685
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: and Danny Sabotello, Luke, just like you're talking to me,

1686
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: joking around, my washed ass is the American Alpha. No, dude,

1687
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how good this guy is, but he's

1688
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: willing to find out. Right the hell, now, Luke, he

1689
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: is Alpha. You know what he is. He is the

1690
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 2: spirit of every creative fighter I've ever done on UFC's

1691
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: video games. Right, I always give the guy wild hair,

1692
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: and he's a you know, he's just a badass, trash

1693
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: talking brawler. Now he's not a brawler, but Luke, he

1694
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: is a submission expert with the with the intention and

1695
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: attitude of a brawler. He's going after it. From the

1696
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: promo he cut afterwards to all the interviews I went

1697
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: back and watched but had missed leading up Luke, how

1698
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: did you not tell me? I know you told this

1699
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: will be an interesting fight and it was between two

1700
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: fighters on the come up? How did you not say, Hey, BC,

1701
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: are you woke to how freakin' wild this guy is?

1702
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 2: Because Luke, you know I can't be him in my

1703
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 2: own profession because it'll probably lead to me getting my

1704
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: ass kicked. But I want to I want to bring.

1705
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: Up he had been showing signs of this kind of thing,

1706
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: with a little bit of flair for the dramatic, but

1707
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: he really ratcheted it up this time. I mean he

1708
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: went to another degree. And so partly this is not

1709
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say entirely new, but this level of

1710
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: it is somewhat new. And so I wasn't expecting. I

1711
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: was expecting. I was expecting Lugo to give him a

1712
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: tougher fight, and dude, Sabatello ran over him in every way.

1713
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think Sabatelo beats Leandro Ego. I

1714
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: believe that, and so it so. I think it had

1715
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: been so whole fight. I think he'll fight Stots next.

1716
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: I believe this.

1717
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Luke, is we is? I said, somebody's gonna

1718
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 2: jump in here, and I know we're gonna talk about

1719
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: the other fights in a second, but somebody's gonna jump

1720
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: in here and become the new of this tournament. Meaning

1721
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: to somebody who's just gonna jump through the screen. It

1722
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: did turn out to be Raffee on Statts, and we

1723
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 2: can get into that. But dude, Sabatello now makes this

1724
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: tournament even more must see. And the fact that this

1725
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 2: has happened after your champion, Sergio Pettis had to pull out,

1726
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, right before the start of the tournament. This

1727
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: is a good development for all things Belator because Luco's tough,

1728
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: ast shit look Waterbury, Connecticut, dirty water baby, and he

1729
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: got handled by Sabatello.

1730
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: All right, Moving on from that one, big BC, I

1731
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: did a post fight show against my better judgment at

1732
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: at seven am in the morning. Your major takeaway from

1733
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: Cyborg's second win over blencos what we got to move

1734
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: us along?

1735
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: But look, do we really have to move it along?

1736
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: We do, BC, because I got shit we have to do. Please, Please,

1737
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: to the love of God, don't fuck with me today. Please.

1738
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm begob I'm begging you, BC, please don't fuck with me.

1739
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, Arlene Blenco did in some ways what I

1740
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: hope she would have done, which was cautioned to the

1741
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: win and go for it. She did, Luke. It made

1742
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: a fun fight. To your point, when I reached out

1743
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: and said, damn, what a war, You're like, well, it's

1744
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 2: a one sided war. It was. It was Cyborg digging

1745
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: in and doing what she had to do. But let's

1746
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: give Arlene Blanco credit. At what thirty eight here, Luke,

1747
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: third chance for a Bellatore title. She had gotten that

1748
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: disputed decision the first time against Bud, came back, got

1749
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 2: submitted against Cyborg. Dude, she did what she's capable of,

1750
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: stand in, take big shots, but give them back. I

1751
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: give her a lot of credit, But no, she was

1752
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: never in this fight scorecard wise. It never looked like

1753
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: she was close to putting Cyborg in trouble, although she

1754
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: did sort of drop her on that in between shot,

1755
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: and she did mark her up a little bit. It

1756
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: was a fun war, Luke, And maybe this is, you know,

1757
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: the toughest challenge Cyborg will end up facing in this

1758
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: division under the Belatour banner. But I'm here to tell

1759
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: Arlene Blenco, if you decided to walk away, you did

1760
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: all you could respect. Okay, look, I got respect.

1761
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought she did everything she could in

1762
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: this fight, including in the last minute begging Cyborg to

1763
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: trade with her in the middle. The fact that she

1764
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: lasted that long. She did get dropped here as you

1765
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: can see, but the fact that she lasted long and

1766
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: then tried to have that kind of exchange with her, Dude,

1767
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: Blanco did everything I thought she could. She really did.

1768
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: She tried, She really truly tried, and that's all you

1769
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: can ask of a fighter, just give us what you have,

1770
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: and she did. Wasn't enough in the end, but it

1771
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: was definitely a commendable effort. So that's why they call

1772
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: it a war. There were a couple of rounds where

1773
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: she was landing some overhand rights and some left hooks

1774
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: on Cyborg, but I think by the time the fourth started,

1775
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: the fight at that point was more or less lost,

1776
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: and then she was eating damage, but it didn't deter her.

1777
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: I really respect the effort. I really do the effort

1778
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: that Blanco put in here.

1779
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: Was she a wardrobe malfunction in round one that could

1780
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: have been disastrous, and she overcame that too, So you know,

1781
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: strong performance in defeat. But Cyborg still Cyborg baby, Luke,

1782
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, every couple title defenses, we sort

1783
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: of reset and go, Man, do Cyborg get the love

1784
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: she probably really, you know, deserves. I mean maybe she

1785
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: never will, Luke, what a fricking legend. I mean, at

1786
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 2: this age, she's got a better motor than everybody. She's

1787
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: She's always stronger, always better output, more efficient than ever

1788
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 2: can do everything. Her kicking game was fantastic. Nobody handles

1789
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: around the ground, Luke, I mean, what in all timer, dude?

1790
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Seriously, she truly is if she's not the best fighter

1791
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: of all time, because we're gonna give you himnue In.

1792
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: It is great, but this is number two very easily,

1793
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: and I don't even know who three would be pretty

1794
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: far away at that point.

1795
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 2: Rob BC, No, no Valentino Valentina, Dude, Valentia.

1796
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: Valentino right still Okay? Fairpoint BC? After stopping one, Archiletta

1797
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: is raffae On Stott's the favorite to win this tournament?

1798
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: Or would it be Pachi Mix for beating Kogi Horrogucci

1799
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: and taking out who we thought was the prohibitive favorite

1800
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: in this tournament? Who would you say is now the

1801
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna win it all?

1802
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 2: It's Raphae on stats right now. But let's give respect

1803
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: first of all to what PATCHI Mix did or we'll

1804
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: play the stat stuff first. Dude, Statts was everything he says.

1805
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: He was everything we said he was and more. Wan

1806
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: Archiletta never been stopped Stotts from the beginning. In this one,

1807
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: Luke landed big shots. He survived Archiletta's early takedown, and

1808
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: then he started putting together some power double legs, really

1809
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: establishing himself. The backflips after the victor. The postfight interview

1810
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: was wild, but Luke his wrestling ability mixed with the

1811
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: intention of his power shots. He is a problem for

1812
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: this bracket, for this division. If you tell me you

1813
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: can see the future and it's gonna be Stots versus

1814
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: Pettis after this tournament's all said and done for the title,

1815
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: then maybe we need to get on a plane and

1816
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: see that in person. Stott's coming the hell on because

1817
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: Archiletta was there in shape ready. Nobody does that, Luke.

1818
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 2: Nobody had kicks this guy and finishes him. What the

1819
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: heck did you just see there? This guy's great, Luke.

1820
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can do it all. He can do it all.

1821
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't He's not quite the sniper that Pettis is,

1822
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: but he's a much better wrestler defensively and offensively. And

1823
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: even if he's not the full on, sort of absorbing,

1824
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: counter striking fighter that Pettis is, he has enough of

1825
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: it to get the win here against Archiletta Ware. Obviously

1826
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Petis had to go I think the full distance with him,

1827
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: and then on top of it, you saw he can

1828
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: also wrestle himself. He can also scramble himself. He is

1829
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: probably the guy to win this. Now it takes us

1830
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: to Patchi MIXBC because it was weird. If he had

1831
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: the back, he could just hold it from there and

1832
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: he would win the rounds. Kilju Uragucci looked like a

1833
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: real flyweight out there, but Blatore doesn't have a flyweight division.

1834
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: That's two losses in a row. He gets knocked out,

1835
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: he gets controlled here. It's a great win for Patchi Mix,

1836
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: but does he have enough to beat the next level

1837
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: of what this competition offers in BBC Where the NBBC uh?

1838
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: Where does Horra Gucci go from here? Because he's in

1839
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: a bit of a tough spot.

1840
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was interesting, Luke, You know it didn't It

1841
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: wasn't a thriller. Uh you know, horr Gucci had moments

1842
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: round two where where he stroke struck nut, he striked stroke,

1843
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: he struck nicely from the outside, darting in and out.

1844
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Mix's ground game was a problem. As you saw here.

1845
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 2: He was in very put uh put the former champ

1846
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: in very tough situations taking his back. I think it's

1847
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 2: a very mature statement from Patchi Mix, who had fought

1848
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: for the title before but lost to Archieletta, had shown

1849
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: us flashes of brilliance. I mean, Luke, he's big for

1850
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: this weight class, he's long, his grappling game is awesome.

1851
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm still surprised a couple of mornings after that he

1852
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: was able to control Horror Gucci like he did over

1853
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: five rounds, Luca, Is this more about Patchi Mix's growth

1854
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: or Horror Gucci being a little underwhelming to your expectations?

1855
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: Ooh no, I don't think Horror Gucci was underwhelming. I

1856
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: think Patchi Mix leveled up. I really do. I think

1857
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: Horror Gucci at this point is accomplished, experienced, knew what

1858
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: his task was. He just didn't have an answer for

1859
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: a guy whose back control is this suffocating. And I'll

1860
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: go back to it. You can see all the times

1861
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: he was leaning on Horror Gucci and pulling him off

1862
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: of his base. That size difference is we've seen PATCHI mix.

1863
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Remember we saw him at High Rollers BJJA. He's not

1864
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: a small bansamweight and quite obviously Horra Gucci is. So

1865
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 1: for all the skill and the ability that he showed

1866
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: in the grappling department, Horror Gucci has a It didn't

1867
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 1: cost him against Darien Caldwell, but it could have a

1868
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: fully cost him here. He is undersized for that weight class,

1869
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: no doubt about it.

1870
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean the size difference was massive between them, Luke,

1871
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: it was freaking massive.

1872
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: It was so. I don't know where Horror Guoci is

1873
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 1: going to go from here. I mean he's still obviously

1874
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: very competitive against the division's best, but yeah, what is

1875
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:19,879
Speaker 1: his setback?

1876
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: Can I do it? What if? For you? You'll probably

1877
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: say no, what if Pettis gets healthier before the tournament's

1878
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 2: actually over. Could Horror Gucci end up with a second

1879
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: title shot?

1880
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: No?

1881
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 2: Right, he just lost. He couldn't, Luke, he could?

1882
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he would have to. He would have to

1883
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: beat he has to. But but like how many people

1884
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: does he have to beat to get a title shot again,

1885
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: probably one at most two, you know that kind of

1886
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: a thing. So he's never that far out of it.

1887
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: But I'm just pointing out like it's.

1888
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Just giving it to the champlu gi he.

1889
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Was until he got got But you get the idea.

1890
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: All right. So that is it for our five topics.

1891
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: It is now time for you to ask us questions.

1892
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: We put up a post on Instagram every Sunday, you

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Speaker 1: guys filled up with questions. The producers picked them. It's

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Speaker 1: time for dms from Diggity Donkeys.

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Speaker 2: Heehaw, hehaw.

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Speaker 1: You see what is going on with your camera setup

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Speaker 1: that you are fumbling over there? Like I try to pull.

1898
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Up the try to pull up the Have you seen

1899
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: this shit? And I just deleted the email bag? Oh

1900
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Speaker 2: I found it. I found it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here we go. Uh BC from Ryan

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Speaker 1: Basra is Tyson Fury a top five heavyweight all time,

1903
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 1: all time.

1904
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: Not yet? Uh wanta you wanted me to go twenty

1905
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: five minutes on this. Check out the instant reaction in

1906
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: which I did. But ability wise, he's getting there mythical

1907
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: matchup in your mind wise because he's part of this

1908
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: new era of super heavyweights, which I think began with

1909
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Lanx Lewis, and now we're seeing guys you know, six

1910
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: five and above who can they're not just stiffs like

1911
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: they can go. But Luke, he had. The problem is

1912
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: he has a lack of elite wins. There's still time.

1913
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Speaker 2: He's only thirty three. If he beats an unbeaten Usk

1914
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: or even a refurbished Joshua to become the first four

1915
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Speaker 2: belt champion, it's going to take him to another level.

1916
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Speaker 2: If he can fight some other guys around there, and

1917
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: add there's no there's nothing stopping him, but he is

1918
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Speaker 2: going if he doesn't fight much longer, Luke, if he

1919
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 2: does one of those things where he just like like

1920
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: a Habib or so who like he sort of walks

1921
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: away on top, You're like, oh damn, like crap I

1922
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: would have wanted more. He's gonna have a weird hipster argument, Luke,

1923
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 2: a weird hipster argument for top five inclusion I think

1924
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: right now though not there yet, but to act like

1925
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: he's not in the top ten. And by the way,

1926
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: there are so many top ten ish worthy names in

1927
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: heavyweight championship history of box you can probably fill out

1928
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty of them guys who you can make

1929
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Speaker 2: arguments for. Dude, I think he's got an argument right

1930
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Speaker 2: now in the top ten, and a lot of it

1931
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: is that eye test that you're seeing. I'm sorry, you

1932
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Try put Rocky Marciato in there

1933
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: against him, you know, Like, seriously, the dude's fucking six

1934
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 2: foot nine and he's tough as balls, and he really

1935
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 2: doesn't have a hole in his game. So he's coming, Luke,

1936
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: He's freaking coming.

1937
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: Uh from the real k Carter. See this is where

1938
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm at too, in terms of pageant and energy. Who

1939
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: is the P four P the pound for pound walkout

1940
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: king across all of combat's sports. I think it's Fury, dude.

1941
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't think Joshua. I mean, the Joshua thing is

1942
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: big because it's a big stadium and he's got his

1943
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: letters on fire, but he didn't have nearly that same

1944
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: kind of charisma and connection as Fury plus Fury had.

1945
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: That guy's like, and when I'm done or when the

1946
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: Gypsy King is done knocking out this sad, pathetic dawser

1947
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: and then the word dawser appears on the screen above

1948
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: the ring. I mean, dude, no one's doing shit like that.

1949
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: He's totally different Patsy Cline coming out to her.

1950
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Before, who had that that awesome interest in Ireland just

1951
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: recently with.

1952
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: The zombie Peter Kueley, Peter Quey.

1953
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was badass. Alima Alea McFarlane and

1954
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 2: Hawaii is always sort of good, you know, but no,

1955
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't equal the pageantry of what the UK Foundation

1956
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: gives you with the sweet hair line into the fans

1957
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: going and dude, they're drunk ast shit. I mean, look

1958
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: our boy. Karen mulvaney of the Showtime Boxing podcast loves

1959
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: to tell the story that at Hatton Mayweather. He was

1960
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: there and it was like two days before the fight

1961
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: in Vegas and the entire MGM Grand ran out of beer. Luke.

1962
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, these are some drunk motherfuckers coming over from

1963
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: the UK. So I think that adds to the feel

1964
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 2: of the entrance, you know what I'm saying.

1965
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I've heard that story

1966
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: that they drank the casino dry of beer. I mean

1967
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: that is that's that's that's that's that's that's commitment. That

1968
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: really that really is like a fuck my livery. You know,

1969
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: I'm just going to empty this all right? From a

1970
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: punch drunk Pete after his knockout of war Archiletta. Where

1971
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: would you say, Ralphie on Statt's ranks among the best

1972
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: fighters in the world not currently signed to the UFC.

1973
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: So that's tough because you've got Cyborg on the one side.

1974
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: Stats you'd put in there, Sergio Pettis, there's a bunch

1975
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: in PFL.

1976
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: Pitbull, Kayla Harrison. So so how about we do this, Luke,

1977
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 2: who's the best fighter not in the UFC right now

1978
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 2: and not in terms of their history just right now?

1979
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: Do you think it's still Cyborg or.

1980
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: No, certainly on the women's side at Cyborg and all

1981
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: of mm A, Yeah, I don't know if it's Cyborg.

1982
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's I don't

1983
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: know if that's right.

1984
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, is it Kayla Harrison? Just on on like

1985
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 2: ability right now?

1986
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Could be could be okay, so.

1987
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: And Cyborg are there? I think you know, I mean JR.

1988
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 2: Gucci just lost, So that hurts his argument, although his

1989
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: argument is still decent. Rafion stats. The whole point of

1990
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: this question, Luke, I mean, where would he be in

1991
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,799
Speaker 2: the I think the better question since it's focused on stats?

1992
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: Is how you know? Where do you think he'd rank

1993
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: if he was in the UFC right now and they're

1994
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: in that division?

1995
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Top five? But I mean I don't know. When I

1996
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: say top five, I don't mean like sitting at five.

1997
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean Billy, I think he'd be I think he'd

1998
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: be competitive somewhere in that space. Could he beat san Haagen,

1999
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 1: could he beat Stirling? Could he beat yon Aldo? I

2000
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: don't know, but I think he's of that level. I

2001
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,759
Speaker 1: do think he's of that level for sure.

2002
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 2: Who's the best fighter in one Luke?

2003
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 1: You could maybe make a case for Demetrius even though

2004
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: he lost. Question see on the muy Thai side, that's

2005
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: a little bit easier to answer. At least they have more.

2006
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: They had a great event on Friday too, Liam Badco

2007
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: had a fucking crazy win.

2008
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I forgot that there was one championship had

2009
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 2: like a Corralis Castillo round where there was like.

2010
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, five it was five knockdowns and something like ninety seconds.

2011
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: I got threatened by people saying they were like, if

2012
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 2: you don't put this and have you seen this shit

2013
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: on Monday and make Luke react to it, I'll never

2014
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 2: watch your show again, Luke, it's not in today's batch.

2015
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's a cadre of One fans

2016
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: who think that like we're trying to like fuck with

2017
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: One by not giving them coverage. It doesn't happen that way.

2018
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: The problem with Friday's card is it was mostly Muyti

2019
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: with the four ounce gloves. There's a couple of MMA fights,

2020
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 1: but maybe we should make a case for I mean,

2021
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: we're doing beltre shows at two thirty in the morning.

2022
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: We probably could give her one championship a little bit

2023
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: more coverage than they get. All right from fit Man

2024
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: eats a lot of belltor questions, I guess do you

2025
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: think Patchi Mixed with improved conditioning and jab work could

2026
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: adopt a style more like Covington's by taking control the

2027
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 1: way he does and just peppering with strike and dominating

2028
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: transitions to have similar success. I don't think Pati Mix

2029
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: and Covingon have a very similar style at all, nor

2030
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: is there a clear and obvious bridge between them. Yeah,

2031
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean yes, if you added things to Pati Mix's game,

2032
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 1: would he be better be see, Yes, of course he would,

2033
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: but he's much more of a stand and accept the

2034
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: fight type and then he tries for quick you know,

2035
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: sort of arm drags, slide by, entries to get to

2036
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: the back, and then he wants to hold it there.

2037
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: Covington's a leg ride, double scramble volume kind of striker.

2038
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: That's just not what Pati Mix is at all.

2039
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 2: No, And I wonder how quickly Mixed can evolve his

2040
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: striking even within the grounds of this tournament. Luke to

2041
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: keep making noise in evolving, because there certainly is something there,

2042
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: there's something great there, how quickly.

2043
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I do think, I do think he needs to

2044
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: put I do think a little bit more offensive urgency

2045
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: even as a counterfighter, even as a counterfighter is good.

2046
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: But obviously, dude like if he gets to yours, if

2047
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: he gets an ang on you, right, if he gets

2048
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: past your center line and he gets an angle on you,

2049
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: in terms of the grappling, he's You're in trouble. You're

2050
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: in big trouble with him. And the fact that you

2051
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: know he has all those submissions coming to has done

2052
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: they have. They're very different games. But I do agree

2053
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 1: that there's a little bit more offensive urgency to create

2054
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: openings that could be there for Patchy rather than having

2055
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: to wait for him all right, Last, but not least,

2056
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Edward under Edwards underscore scissor underscore hands. Uh would Luke

2057
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: trade his vape habit for a night's sleep, motherfucker? I

2058
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: would trade this show for a night's sleep. Are you

2059
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: shitting me? I can't remember the last time I got

2060
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: eight hours of sleep in a night. I mean that sincerely, BC.

2061
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I cannot remember the last time. So I went.

2062
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 2: When you and I were just in Dallas at the

2063
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Live by Low's in Arlington, there overlooking the Jerry World,

2064
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: and you know, outside of our window of our on

2065
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 2: our side of the hotel that I don't know, there

2066
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: was like a fair and there was a pool there.

2067
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: We're just pumping house music. I felt bad telling you that,

2068
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 2: you know, so it took me a few minutes, but

2069
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 2: I did nap during that, Luke, And I feel bad

2070
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 2: telling you that because I know there was no chance.

2071
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: And I'll tell the folks this dude sleeping It used

2072
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: to be so easy for me. I remember when I remember,

2073
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: I remember this distinctly. There was one time that I

2074
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: was out with my Marine Corps unit. We were on

2075
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: an exercise. I had some downtime and I slept in

2076
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 1: the five ton vehicle next to the gun line. The

2077
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 1: gun lines were all the cannons fire. So it's not

2078
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: just small arms rifles. It's the howitzer fucking sending seven

2079
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: red bag thirty miles away right on the charge. I

2080
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: slept right next to it, no fucking problem. That was

2081
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: like twenty four at the time, something like that. I mean,

2082
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 1: just could sleep anywhere with under any condition, no problem, dude.

2083
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: Now when I sleep, I have to wear those nose

2084
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: strips that like Albert Haynes would have to wear because

2085
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: he was, you know, a fat slob when he fought

2086
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 1: for the or played for the Now the commanders then

2087
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: the Redskins, and I have to wear earplugs at night,

2088
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,759
Speaker 1: and I have to take Melowtonin and other sleep drugs

2089
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: to go to sleep. Dude, it's a fucking battle for me.

2090
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: The air has to be on, the fucking white noise

2091
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 1: machine has to be on. I have to gear I

2092
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: have to gear up like rock Sand motor Ferry does

2093
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: before an MMA five. Bro, I'm taped up, I've got

2094
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: knee pads on. I mean, it's a fucking shit show.

2095
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: Because I'm so full of anxiety, I can't sleep anymore.

2096
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife has She not that bad, not as

2097
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 2: bad as you. But there are many times that you know,

2098
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 2: my light snoring, lightish snoring can just send me to

2099
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 2: another room, Luke. But you need I mean, you haven't

2100
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 2: even talked about the copious amounts of Delta products that

2101
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 2: you also use to help you get to that point.

2102
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for you because as much as we're

2104
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 2: all like, yeah, Luke should go on TRT, have a

2105
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 2: Vetort Belfort type run in life, all you actually need

2106
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 2: is four good nights of sleep per week, Luke, and

2107
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 2: you could be a completely different person.

2108
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Speaker 1: I honestly, I mean this sincerely. I wonder what would

2109
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: happen if I could start sleeping normally again, and how

2110
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: much it would improve my health, because it has become

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01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: a point in my life where it's the hardest thing

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01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: for me to fall asleep. It's just terrible. So give

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01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 1: me all the drugs, please, That's what I would say.

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Speaker 1: All right, bec it's done with my shit, now it's

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Speaker 1: time for yours.

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01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what I like to do every Sunday, Luke,

2117
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 2: is I got the globe for the highs and lows,

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01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between. In

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01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 2: combat Sports. And then I say, hey, Gaff Pierre, our

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01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: great producer, put this shit together to find out if

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01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: people have seen it. Yes, it's have you seen this shit?

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01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: You farted your way through that intro too?

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01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 2: Uh? Probably? Uh, Luke, we have had this weekend an

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01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 2: abundant of all I don't want to say all time great,

2125
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 2: but amazing post fight interviews. I got four of them.

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01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna play samples. I want you to tell me

2127
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 2: who it was the best this weekend.

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01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: Let's close this window. My neighbor is Jesus Christ. Hey,

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01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: let's mow our lawn at fucking ten am. Actually it's

2130
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: almost one. What am I saying? I'm an asshole? Never mind?

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01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're pretty much are an asshole. Luke will start

2132
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: at Bellatoor two seventy nine. Here's rod Fion Stotts after

2133
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 2: knocking out one Archiletta.

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01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 3: People.

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01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: Let me say something, Yes, who like plane? I appreciate

2136
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 2: I love it, Hawaii, I love it?

2137
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 1: Like what? All right, ladies and gentlemen, with the new intram.

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01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 2: Bantamweight champion Raffion superstarts anything else you want to say? Hey, y'all,

2139
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm coming. Hey, if you want some, come get some.

2140
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: Want to say that to call me.

2141
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 3: To bully you.

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01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: God damn right, I'm a bullyer here, I'm nasty with it.

2143
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: If you walk home, come get some. This was my

2144
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 1: pitch to This was my pitch to women, and to

2145
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: come into my dorm room in college.

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01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 2: That's contested number one. Here look the night before. Here's

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01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 2: Danny Sabatello following his submission win at two seventy eight.

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01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was epic, talking to talk and then walking

2149
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 1: the walk. You just put on a masterful performance against

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01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: an un defeated fighter. Talk to me about how you feel. Yeah,

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01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: I feel fucking great. It was a really good fucking

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01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 1: performance by me. Shock was shorn about that. Fuck that.

2153
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 3: But Johno Lugo is an absolute stunt. And for me

2154
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 3: to do that to a guy like him, I can

2155
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 3: be any fucking body. And now Leandro Hego is next.

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01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 3: It's a perfect fucking match up me and him because

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01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 3: you look at him, he fucking sucks. You look at me,

2158
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 3: and I'm really good. Let's go.

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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:30,759
Speaker 2: Look that's that's nineteen eighties. Great, he's brilliant, he's great, brilliant.

2160
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Charles air Jordan, who, as you mentioned,

2161
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: he he called for Twitter to put the star on.

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01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 2: He asked the USC for a job, but he also

2163
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: offered this to Edson Barbosa.

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01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 1: Love to face Sison Barbosa. Man, I'm a guy who

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01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 1: likes striking. I want to die in there.

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01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: I want to live and let my life in there,

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01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: and I want to face the best strikers in this division.

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Speaker 1: And don't worry, it'son. I won't try to take you down.

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01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: There's gonna be my no on, my know, until you

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01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: die or I die. Yeah, everyone's dying apparently?

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01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 2: Is that a double suicide packed? He just offered Barbosa

2172
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 2: right here? That was interesting?

2173
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: And like, is he offering Edsen Barboza a fight or

2174
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: the plot of Romeo and Juliet? What's happening? Yes?

2175
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, are we fucking her fighting? Tyson Fury might

2176
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: be doing the former. Here here's his infamous chat with

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01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 2: Francis Ganu.

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01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ. He's in great shape. Look at the

2179
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Speaker 1: muscles on him.

2180
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find out who he's the bettest motorfoca on

2181
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:25,799
Speaker 2: the planet.

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01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: Hell fron sash.

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01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we apologize the language in at the moment. Can

2184
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 2: I get a couple of months?

2185
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 3: Get out.

2186
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 1: I'll be right back on my feet. He's a good

2187
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 1: looking he's a good looking jummy. And have you got

2188
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: a big Tory? You gotta be calling Big a big Tory.

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01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 2: Hey, this is getting off the change. But when we

2190
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 2: see it in the octagon, or we'll see it in

2191
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: the ring. I think you're saying big Cory is that

2192
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 2: this is gonna.

2193
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: Be a very special fight right never before we.

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01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: Can cut it here, Jeff, I think that's British for

2195
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: big dong, Luke, I gotta give it to Danny Sabatello. Look,

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01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 2: he won the weekend in terms of sound.

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01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that was Hey, Francis, you got a big ass hug. Yes,

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01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not different, bro, He's different.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Honolulu for some more bellator, Luke,

2200
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 2: do you know much about Sumiko Inaba, who calls herself

2201
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 2: the Lady Samurai. She improved to eight and one with

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01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 2: this first round finish of Whitney Piles. Good lord.

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01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: Man, you know what really is missing from all of

2204
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,719
Speaker 1: this is venom and reebok I just you know, would

2205
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 1: really make this so much better, such a such a

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01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 1: strong argument to have it, you know, the.

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01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 2: Lady Samurai left Hoddan Yeah, that's that's impressive. Ship. Look

2208
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 2: at this.

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01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh that was nice jab cross hook man the one

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01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: two three, that's what it is.

2211
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 2: You know, I love reel recognizing reel on this segment,

2212
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 2: I got a little emotional watching this incredible exchange following

2213
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 2: Cyborg Blenco two. I mean, those are just two warriors, Luke, Okay,

2214
01:42:59,240 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 2: all right.

2215
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I felt I felt bad for a Blanco because that

2216
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: was that was a tough loss and she gave it all, bro,

2217
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: she really did.

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01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 2: I mean she's crying also.

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01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: That's also, by the way, that's not her eyebrow. That

2220
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 1: thing is a giant cut over her left eye.

2221
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know those tiers, those tears are I

2222
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 2: gave every single thing I had and it still wasn't enough.

2223
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 2: And looking, you know what, not everybody could be a champion,

2224
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 2: it happens, but what a strong performance. Speaking of love

2225
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: and respect, Look, did you see these savage lightweights Yancy

2226
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Madeiro's making his Beltour debut and Emmanuel Sanchez moving up

2227
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 2: in wait the final ten seconds Here was just a

2228
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 2: tease of what they did over three rounds, and what

2229
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: did you think about the hug before and after every

2230
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 2: round that they had?

2231
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: Didn't love the hug But here's the thing. I do

2232
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: love Yancey. It was his walkout was great. That crowd

2233
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 1: went ape shit for him, which was amazing to see.

2234
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: And Yancy brought it and got to win. So now

2235
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 1: does he get a win in his Belatore debut? His

2236
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 1: Belltoarre debut takes place in Hawaii, first time there since

2237
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. Tough loss for Sanchez. So I

2238
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 1: don't love the hugging, but there's one guy I'm gonna forgive.

2239
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be any Sorry, my window apparently still not

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01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: motherfucking clothes. Jesus Christ.

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01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 2: Nobody can hear it, Lucas all right, so you don't

2242
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 2: have to keep bringing up Jesus name. I mean, you

2243
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 2: know he didn't. He didn't dine across for you to

2244
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: disparage him every week on this show. Hey, look, let's

2245
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 2: go back to UFC Fight Night. Mike Jackson of see

2246
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 2: Him Punk Fame.

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01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 2: He took a kick to the stick from old Dean Barry.

2249
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: Let's hear the reaction from Jackson, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

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01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 2: Spin low blow, no coaching, guys, take your time, buddy,

2252
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 2: direct connection, uh luke Uh Jackson the videographer and part

2253
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 2: time fighter, was heavily criticized for taking the DQ loss.

2254
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 2: Here do you blame them, Luke or the win? Sorry,

2255
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 2: the DQ win?

2256
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Uh No, I don't. And by the way, I feel

2257
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: bad for Dean Barry because he had told I think

2258
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: Mma Finding or somebody that he had spent his life

2259
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: savings to get back to the UFC and then he

2260
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: gets here and then this happens. The old that really sucks.

2261
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: But stick kick, That'll be enough, you motherfucker. All right,

2262
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: let's go to the weirdest Sean Strickland tweet of the week, Luke,

2263
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 2: And there were a lot of them, but this is

2264
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 2: pretty inflammatory. Strickland has now made it his mission to

2265
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 2: go after the coaches of both Rose nam Unis and

2266
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 2: aspen Lad, basically saying they are being weinsteined Luke. Rose

2267
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 2: actually put a response video of sorts people sort of

2268
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 2: connecting the dots in which she prayed for the people

2269
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 2: that against her in her life on this solo video, Luke,

2270
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts on being this aggressive.

2271
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's very on brand for Sean Strickland. There's some

2272
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 1: verb tenses and some spelling. That's an issue that's definitely

2273
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 1: the high spelled Weinstein. Also, Weinstein was less a Pat

2274
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Berry is built wrong as well. Weinstein His issue, as

2275
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: I understand, it was less that he was sort of

2276
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: considered some kind of grooming threat and more just power

2277
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: abuse of you know, already adult women. But you know

2278
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 1: he was just simply using the power as a way

2279
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,879
Speaker 1: to extract sexual favors.

2280
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 2: And I mean, can he catch a receiver here, Pat?

2281
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 2: I know, Pat Barry, he ain't gonna take this lightly, Luke.

2282
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: No, No, Sean Strickland is, Yeah, this is not the

2283
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: most delicate way to handle it. No, But you know

2284
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: that's no. I mean, I would like to say that

2285
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: in the sport like things like this matter, but I

2286
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 1: think most folks just don't seem to care about anything

2287
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: in this world.

2288
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of weird MMA tweets, Look, let's go over

2289
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 2: to Bryce Mitchell. You know, the thug nasty lives in

2290
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 2: a motor home on his large property, Luke. And you

2291
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 2: know sometimes, Luke, he'll piss in the sink because it's easier.

2292
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 2: So Luke, let that sink in.

2293
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 1: All right, easier than what the bathroom? That hard?

2294
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess finding the toilet, Luke. If you're pissing

2295
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: your own sink. You're pretty gross. But then again, Luke,

2296
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 2: as much as I do love Bryce Mitchell, he did

2297
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 2: do this on camera recently. I know I mentioned it

2298
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 2: to you. Finally we have the video.

2299
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: I saw this, just eating folgers, just.

2300
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 2: Eating coffee grind straight up.

2301
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: Luke, I told you. I've told you this before. There were

2302
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: times when we were so tired in the field that

2303
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: what we would do is we take coffee grinds like

2304
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 1: that that came in the MRI and we dip them.

2305
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: We throw them in our dip and then just put

2306
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 1: it right in your gums to help wake up. Yeah.

2307
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 1: It does work, but it's fucking awful and I wouldn't

2308
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: prefer that as a method.

2309
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean we'll wake you up. Hey, look

2310
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 2: search you a Petes. Despite his injuries as the Bellatour

2311
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 2: Bandon White Champion looked back on his UFCDB long ago

2312
01:47:56,080 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 2: against Will camp Usano and couldn't help but got off

2313
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 2: the phoner his opponent was packing back then he said

2314
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 2: it would be a hard fight for me. I didn't

2315
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 2: know this is what he meant, Luke. Yikes, I mean, Luke,

2316
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean shades of Mayweather McGregor. Wayan, Am I right, Luke?

2317
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well he had like a frozen steak in his

2318
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: dungarees there, didn't he look get that thing?

2319
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Alrighty?

2320
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 1: Then I like the arrow in the picture, like we

2321
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: need it.

2322
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: Where's the baview of it? If you look at that

2323
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,719
Speaker 2: thing straight on, you're like, whoa bro? You are fired

2324
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 2: up for this? Wow? Okay, Luke gross or legit? A

2325
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 2: lot of people sending me this baseball fan or was

2326
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 2: it NBA fan? I don't know what sporting baseball? Yes,

2327
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Luke dipping the dog in the beer?

2328
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a dirt bag Yankees fan who

2329
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 1: took the ferry from Staten Island somewhere. This guy is

2330
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: a complete loser and like every Yankees fan that I've

2331
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 1: ever enc just an abysmal human being.

2332
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 2: Wow, that's you know, that's tough talk from a guy

2333
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 2: who wore a black Yankees cat with the blacked out logos.

2334
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen. As a man who wears questionable hats

2335
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 1: and is also a wash dad on vacation, you should

2336
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,799
Speaker 1: understand my pain a little bit more than most.

2337
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: By the way, no talk about how Alexander Volkanowski rolled

2338
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 2: into Manhattan for your interview, wearing basically Fred dursty red

2339
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 2: Yankee hat.

2340
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: Right, I did. I didn't even realize that at the time,

2341
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: more so because I was despondent about the state of things.

2342
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 1: But that's a different conversation for a different time, all.

2343
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 2: Right, Luke. As we mentioned earlier, the UK does it

2344
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 2: differently when it comes to getting drunk. Look at this.

2345
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: See this sniper cam at Wembley Stadium over the weekend

2346
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 2: caught this beer vendor pouring spilled beer back into the cubs.

2347
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: Ah god, BC. I had a friend, this is true,

2348
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: and this fucker would do it every weekend and I

2349
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,639
Speaker 1: just never understood it. We had a friend whose whole

2350
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 1: bit was we'd go to these bars in college and

2351
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:02,759
Speaker 1: he would be the guy that would go and find

2352
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 1: people's empty or half empty pitchers or like a little

2353
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: bit left in their mugs, and he would combine everything

2354
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:12,480
Speaker 1: together and then drink it and do He did it regularly, regularly.

2355
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: He's now an attorney. By the way, if you can

2356
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: believe that, sot.

2357
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 2: It, Luke. You and I met at Mayweather Canelo September

2358
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen in Vegas. The first night I was there,

2359
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 2: it was the first time I was ever in Vegas.

2360
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 2: So it was one of those situations where I flew

2361
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 2: at like, you know, woke up at three in the

2362
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 2: morning to fly got to Vegas, did the whole media

2363
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: day thing whatever. At night, went out for drinks. I

2364
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: was up for twenty five consecutive hours. We ran into

2365
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 2: Andy Ruiz Junior at the bar, who bought us all

2366
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 2: shots on his own birthday. And that night, when I

2367
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 2: was walking back to my room at the MGM Grand,

2368
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 2: the room next to me had a giant table of

2369
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: room service that they had already ordered, and the only

2370
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: thing that was minorly touched was a bowl about this

2371
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,839
Speaker 2: big of tortilla chips with a giant bowl of guac

2372
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 2: that it only had like two you know, dips taken

2373
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 2: out of it. I commandeered that whole thing, brought it

2374
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:07,759
Speaker 2: back to my room and sat there with my underwear

2375
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: and just ate it, just sloppily ate at all. How

2376
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 2: gross is that? Luke decent?

2377
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: Gross? Fucking gross, that's fucking gross. You don't know if

2378
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: they rub their balls all over those tortilla chips, maybe

2379
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 1: that's what the whole thing was for. It's a club

2380
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 1: where they just rubbed their testicles on corn chips, and

2381
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: you were just like, yeah, I'm all of that.

2382
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never you never know. Look, let's go to

2383
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 2: the soccer stadium here. Look at this drunk aston Via fan.

2384
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,759
Speaker 2: Take a take a rough header your thoughts here, Luke.

2385
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: Sounds about right.

2386
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's it, Thank you, dude.

2387
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: Like like low level Premier League teams are they? I mean,

2388
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: their fan bases are just it's just sadness porn, you know.

2389
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 2: You just let's go for some mascot violence. Here's Jake

2390
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Paul uh sitting courtside at a Houston Rockets game and

2391
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 2: he's getting a little messed with here by the Rocket mascot.

2392
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: Luke, boy, how how about Tommy Fury on that fight card?

2393
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah, yikes, did not.

2394
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: I said this on Twitter and it's you know again,

2395
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,799
Speaker 1: no one has any comprehension of what nuance is supposed

2396
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: to mean. But I was like, you can't really be

2397
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 1: certain because who the fuck knows. It's just hard to say.

2398
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: But I don't know, dude, I might pick Jake Paul

2399
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: over Fury at this point.

2400
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Fury is not I agree, Tommy Fury not good. Not good, Luke,

2401
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 2: let's go to the Utah Jazz mascot. Now, tell me

2402
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 2: if this is staged or not. Because the NBA teams

2403
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 2: like to do these stage things in the crowd. This

2404
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: doesn't look stage to me. So here's the mascot messing

2405
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 2: with with some fans. The fan pours the beer back

2406
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 2: over his head and now it's on Luke. Okay, he's

2407
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: going back in.

2408
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Yo, this mascot is great.

2409
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 2: Yo, this looks real. Bro.

2410
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 1: Is this a mascot or did teen Wolf finally decide

2411
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: he had enough? Yo?

2412
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: Teen Wolf's vertical was ridiculous, right Damn.

2413
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we got this guy who's got this

2414
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 1: unbelievable biological condition of which there's no scientific explanation. You'll

2415
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: pass him the fucking.

2416
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 2: Ball, get out of the way, uh, Luke. Loosely related,

2417
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 2: did you see the Timberwolves NBA playoff game over the

2418
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:13,799
Speaker 2: weekend in which this security guard perfectly timed this female

2419
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 2: fan about to run on the court.

2420
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: Not a fan, a climate activist.

2421
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh really, another one of these chain it to the

2422
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 2: hoop people.

2423
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude, you see what happened here in DC

2424
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: over the fucking weekend. No, there was a climate activist

2425
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,560
Speaker 1: who set himself on fire at the steps of the

2426
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. He fucking died.

2427
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jon of Arc gone wrong. Yeah that's uh, that's

2428
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 2: not good, Luke.

2429
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like, dude, I'm worried about global warming too,

2430
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to see the new episodes of Mandalorian.

2431
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 2: We're being told the Timberwolves have had three protesters this

2432
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 2: playoff season. All right, Luke, let's uh, let's fuck it.

2433
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 2: Let's go streaking here. Check out this. Uh normally it's

2434
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 2: the security guards taking out the naked streakers. Look at the.

2435
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 1: That is awesome game about that? What sorry soccer stadium?

2436
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Is this?

2437
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: I have no idea, Luke, but that's a nice twist

2438
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:07,879
Speaker 2: to get them back for once, right.

2439
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: You know what, let them know whose double leg is

2440
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: really the legit one.

2441
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, we got another streaker in a soccer game.

2442
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 2: Check out this chick. Her ending not as happy, Luke.

2443
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 1: That's wearing a bra, which is oh.

2444
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 2: Wow wow, Lucy.

2445
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, she got ed.

2446
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 2: Yes she did, all right, only in Vegas, Luke, this week,

2447
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 2: Look what happened at this intersection. Look have you spent

2448
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 2: any time in a manhole before? Maybe in college?

2449
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Is that bro?

2450
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 2: Can we zoom in here on this guy? I mean,

2451
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 2: what's the story of this guy? Luke shout out to

2452
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: Vegas Issues.

2453
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 1: Great, this motherfucker was like, Yo, I'm gonna find these

2454
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: ninja turtles.

2455
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Luke, speaking of big slams, did you

2456
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 2: see this insane amateur wrestling bridge which they turned into

2457
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 2: a belly to back.

2458
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 1: Luke, that's a crazy bridge. All right, Let's see where

2459
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: this goes. I mean, that's insane flexibility. And then he's

2460
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna bring him over the corner. Yep, boom, Look at

2461
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: that right there. Yes, yeah, Wow, that's wrestling. And then

2462
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: he just gets right on top full mount.

2463
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 2: Let the boys be boys, all right, Luke, this guy

2464
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 2: unfortunately got exactly what he asked for. You ever stand

2465
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 2: up on the bridge of the splash zone, Luke.

2466
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Been I taking my kid to the splash pad.

2467
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: He got in gan nude right there. Look, that's great,

2468
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 2: that's great.

2469
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Wow, It's like, Wow, I didn't know BC. I didn't

2470
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: know Peter North worked at the water park. That's crazy.

2471
01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 2: Let's go over to the barber shop. You never know

2472
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. Their new styles are breaking out

2473
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: all the time. A lot of people not spending one

2474
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Surprisingly enough, Luke, they call this the reverse beard.

2475
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

2476
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 1: People are bored. I can't believe he's white and me

2477
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: see that's so out of character.

2478
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 2: But could this be the mullet? Could this be the

2479
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 2: new mullet?

2480
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 3: Luke?

2481
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: The mullet is also just an incredibly stupid haircut that

2482
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: people wear ironically and then now not ironically, even though

2483
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 1: it's only supposed to be worn ironically. This is just,

2484
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's just a lot of people with nothing

2485
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 1: to do. That's what this is.

2486
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go to the next barbershop, Luke, I don't

2487
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 2: know what you'd call this.

2488
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: Did he lose a bet?

2489
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 2: It's a big fan of space ships? I don't know, Luke.

2490
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2491
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 2: Is that a young Rock Hudson? I don't know, Luke.

2492
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Let's keep it going there.

2493
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: He's a big Connor McGregor underwear fan.

2494
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 2: Could be hate to puke and juke, Luke. But here's

2495
01:56:55,680 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 2: here's vomiting at high speeds. We've been there, right, We've been.

2496
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: There again, Levy, who is without saying cast the first stone.

2497
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I have also repainted many a friend's car doing this?

2498
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean, Luke, you know have you ever no?

2499
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean you know? Yeah, you've had to pull over

2500
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 2: driving to do it before next morning?

2501
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean next morning. Yeah, I've done it at stop

2502
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: lights before too.

2503
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, Uh, Luke, let's go over this. I've also

2504
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 2: puked over tables at the bar many times. Unfortunately, Luke,

2505
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 2: I've done many a gross thing in my day. Right,

2506
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm surprised I've made it this far.

2507
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Hey did she do? Uh? Let me ask a question? Here?

2508
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: Was she a part of the uh pregame preview with

2509
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 1: me and Chuck minnon Hall.

2510
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: Because that's too I think? So? Dog gone at, Luke,

2511
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 2: we got one more in the puke category for you.

2512
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 2: What a beautiful dog?

2513
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: You know?

2514
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it happens, Luke, Justine knows shit happens.

2515
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Keep getting dogs the size of fucking elephants and see

2516
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 1: what happens.

2517
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: My dog is peeked in my car so many Oh god,

2518
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 2: it's the worst, Luke. Finally, this is a late add on.

2519
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 2: Let's play the video with the audio. We've seen stephen

2520
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 2: A hit the bag before Luke hit the mitst Here

2521
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 2: are the island boys. Can you rate their technique, Luke, I.

2522
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 1: Can't get over the river of vomit. They came out

2523
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 1: of that fucking Great Dames mouth. It looks kind of

2524
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 1: like this assholes punches. Look at this arm punching piece

2525
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: of shit show, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Those two twins congratulated us on winning the World MMA Awards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they took money to congratulate this. That's what they did.

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Speaker 2: I took about the isle n By. Man, that's such

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Speaker 2: a plate.

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Speaker 1: I look at this motherfucker squared up on this other

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Speaker 1: ass wipe. Let's do it. I mean they cut their

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Speaker 1: hair though, I'll say that they cut their hair.

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Speaker 2: They did, they did, Luke. That's all the shit I

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Speaker 2: have for the week. What a great episode this was,

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Speaker 2: even with you trying to hurry me out the door.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, bro, this shit we gotta do. Uh Okay, great stuff, BC,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Let's see, we'll have we'll lean into

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Speaker 1: all next weekend stuff starting on Wednesday. There will be

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Speaker 1: some extra credit videos, so be on the lookout for that.

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Speaker 1: I want to remind folks Showtime dot Com at the

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Speaker 1: label that pays, we got to Showtime dot Com get

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Speaker 1: a thirty day free trial if you like it, you

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Speaker 1: can keep it. If not, you can go fuck yourself.

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Speaker 1: Morningcombat dot Store. Morningcombat dot Store.

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Speaker 2: Does it say that in the small print, Luke, under

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Speaker 2: restrictions rules apply.

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Speaker 1: I have heard it, may or may not. I can't confirm.

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Speaker 1: You have to look yourself Morning Combat dot Store. For

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Speaker 1: all the great merch and of course for Wednesday's fan subs,

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Speaker 1: Friday is dead wrong, go to Morningcombat at gmail dot

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Speaker 1: com just to reach the show. Is the show email

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat at gmail dot com give us a shout

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Speaker 1: there BC. Any final thoughts before we get out of here.

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Speaker 2: No, just a reminder to our fans. We love you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for making us a part of your week,

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Speaker 2: you know, three days a week, plus all the bonuses.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't check out our reactions, you want a

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Speaker 2: little bit more from what we said, check that out

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash morning Combat. Nobody and I mean

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Speaker 2: nobody does it like we do. Okay, whether you like

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Speaker 2: it or don't like it, sit down and take a

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Speaker 2: look because this is the best thing going in combat

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Speaker 2: sports today. Whoo whoo.

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Speaker 1: All right for Brian Campbell for Malka, CBS Sports and Showtime.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas back soon. And until then, may all

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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal