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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Person Behind the Pads podcast, a chat

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Speaker 1: with the Colts player about life on the grid iron.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of the Person Behind the Pads

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Speaker 2: podcast here on the Colts Audio Network. I'm Jjsankawitz, joined

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Speaker 2: today by linebacker Zaire Franklin. Zaire, thanks for joining us, man.

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Speaker 1: Of course, appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk to you about a lot

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Speaker 2: about your foundation, Salicia's Angels, because some of the work

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Speaker 2: that you've done through it, I think it has been

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Speaker 2: really neat to follow since I started covering the Colts

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Speaker 2: here a couple of years ago. But the inspiration for

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Speaker 2: it comes from your mother, Chalise. But the work that

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Speaker 2: you've done with it, How did the passing of your

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Speaker 2: mother and grandmother in that seventy seven day stretch when

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Speaker 2: you were in high school? How did that influence the

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Speaker 2: work that you've wanted to do in your foundation?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, it's influenced at a time, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: you know just the role that those two women played

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Speaker 3: in my life and just the perspective that they gave me,

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Speaker 3: not only us on women, on the world, on the

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Speaker 3: environment around me, but also just what it meant to

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Speaker 3: really have somebody really believe in you and that inspiration.

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Speaker 3: So honestly, the whole ideal behind it, the genesis of it,

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Speaker 3: at his heart, is really me just kind of giving

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Speaker 3: back to young women who are in situations that I

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Speaker 3: was in. I feel like so many times, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's athletes, you know, we want to do the football camps. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: when I pull up to a middle school, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking to the young guys, you know, I mean

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Speaker 3: they want, oh, who's.

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Speaker 1: The best running back you played? Or I can run

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Speaker 1: you over.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's always stuff like that, and I love that,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's the stuff that motivates me, keep me going.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like so many times sometimes the young

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously I got a financial literacy background too,

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Speaker 3: Obviously we got an entrepreneurial spirit. But I always make

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Speaker 3: a you know, actual effort to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 3: spending time with the young women, giving them the experiences,

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Speaker 3: giving them just save spaces for them to talk about

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Speaker 3: their struggles and their dreams and talk to other women

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Speaker 3: who are successful about their journeys and what it took

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Speaker 2: You've taken those women into a lot of male dominated places,

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Speaker 2: you know, like tech companies, Google, Meta, I know you've

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Speaker 2: done visits there. You did a visit to seventy six

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Speaker 2: them like and for them to see examples of themselves

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's awesome and it's so funny. I tell

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Speaker 3: I'm getting just mod out of as as much as

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Speaker 3: out of this field trip as you guys are, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling like a kid at.

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Speaker 1: You know? What did that feel like?

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Speaker 3: What are some things that you could pass on to

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Speaker 3: Who are the people in your work environment that you

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Speaker 2: For you, the tragedy of losing your mother and your

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Speaker 2: back to those moments where you know, I know you

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Speaker 2: kind of have to start of, Hey, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, it's really it was like two different experiences

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Speaker 3: It was like, you know, every day I'm coming home

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Speaker 3: And just you know, I felt like at that time,

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Speaker 2: And now for those kids, if you're a little part

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Speaker 3: It's like it's crazy because it's just like when I

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Speaker 2: The financial literacy stuff. I wrote a story on what

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Speaker 3: It might hate me for this, but at the time,

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Speaker 3: They gave me a scholarship, but we still had to pay,

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Speaker 3: you know, a decent amount. We were on welfare, man,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no time soon obviously indeed for you just the

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Speaker 3: Well, for me personally, I want that to be first

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Speaker 3: Goal, you know, as far as my community service style,

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's just who I am.

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Speaker 3: they do it in different ways. But for me, his

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Speaker 3: boots on the ground is time's energy. Honestly, It's no

440
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Speaker 3: better cure for a game, whether I played great or

441
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Speaker 3: play bad than going into a high school or hanging

442
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Speaker 3: around some kids or whatever. That is, man, because it

443
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,320
Speaker 3: just resets you, puts you back at ground zero. It's

444
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Speaker 3: like you back in seventh grade all over again, you know,

445
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Speaker 3: and then it's just like it gives you so much

446
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Speaker 3: perspective on you know, the things that you're doing, and

447
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Speaker 3: how blessed we really are to you know, to play

448
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Speaker 3: this game. So you know, for me, how I like

449
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Speaker 3: to carry things. I'm a little bit of a control

450
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Speaker 3: freak too, That's why you know, I'm so hands on.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, that's just really

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Speaker 3: how I like to run things. I like to put

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Speaker 3: my heart in it, you know, because I feel like

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Speaker 3: that's just, you know, how you're gonna get the best

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Speaker 3: version of me.

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Speaker 1: And I feel the same way about the team.

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Speaker 3: You know, I gotta I gotta put my heart and

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Speaker 3: my soul in it, and I'm gonna give you every

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Speaker 3: part of me, and that's that's the only way you

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Speaker 3: wanna get the best version of me.

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Speaker 2: All right, speaking of heart and soul and the best version,

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Speaker 2: you got a Philly cheese steak here named after you.

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Speaker 1: I do actually shout out the Hogies and Hops.

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Speaker 2: So okay, how long did it take Hogies and Hops

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Speaker 2: to get that sandwich?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: They actually got it good?

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Speaker 3: So they posted it and then they posted I think

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Speaker 3: they tagged me Nick and Matt because Matt's from Philly.

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Speaker 3: You didn't know Matt Ryan, Well, Kanti is from Philly.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Kanty. Matt Ryan's from Philly. I know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if, but we claim it, Matt Ryan don't.

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Speaker 3: So there we go Hall of Famer indeed, so they

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Speaker 3: tagged all of us and I was like, dang, what

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Speaker 3: a kid from Philly got to do to get cheat?

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Speaker 1: It was like, what's your order?

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Speaker 3: So then they whipped it up and then uh, I

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Speaker 3: think right after the season I treated the whole trainer

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Speaker 3: onto the cheese like it's actually fired though, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: definitely go check that out.

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Speaker 2: Because Kanti Matt Kanti is from Philly. He said it

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Speaker 2: was it was good.

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Speaker 1: No, it's really good. It's really good. I want I

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Speaker 1: ate I had too, So yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's probably pretty hard to get out here in the Midwest, though,

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Speaker 2: Like a real Philly cheese Like, okay, so what makes

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Speaker 2: a real Philly cheese steak?

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Speaker 3: I would say it starts with the bread. I would

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Speaker 3: say it starts with the bread. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: why that hogy is so good. They ship him in

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Speaker 3: from Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's like an Italian bread or like a

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Speaker 2: French bread.

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Speaker 3: I would just say it's more so consistency. You know,

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Speaker 3: they call y'all call them subs. We call them hogy.

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Speaker 3: I won't get into the debate of what it actually is,

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Speaker 3: but that's really much what it is, the hogy role.

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Speaker 3: And you know, obviously you got to chop up the

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Speaker 3: ribby and get it right.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm not a big whiz guy.

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Speaker 3: I like American, you know, I always I go mayonnaise

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Speaker 3: because I like, like, I like mayonnaise. I know some

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Speaker 3: people don't like mayonnaise.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Soft pepper ketchup is like a base to your cheese sake, though,

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Speaker 3: SWT pepper ketchup is just that's how we're starting it.

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Speaker 3: Like that's immediately like salt pepper ketchup. I like mustard.

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Speaker 3: Some people don't like mustard, that's fine, you know. And

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Speaker 3: then I also like sweet peppers. I like I like

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Speaker 3: sweet peppers in mine too. So your cheese steak is

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Speaker 3: like it's like your Chipotle order. It's like it's like

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Speaker 3: a personalized thing to you. So that's why I was

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Speaker 3: just in the turnroom telling them to day, like, what

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Speaker 3: is a Philly cheese steak? Like that whole concept to

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Speaker 3: me bothers me because like everybody in Philly eats a

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Speaker 3: different cheese steak.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I thought it was.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was just steak and cheese was Seriously,

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Speaker 2: that's what I thought it was. No, you look to

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Speaker 2: me like I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's not that. But it's everybody got their

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Speaker 1: own order.

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Speaker 3: I'm like my best friend, he likes cheese steak Hogies,

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Speaker 3: which is more like with lettuce and tomatoes. And no,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't get letuce and tomatoes on my cheese steak,

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Speaker 3: but I know a lot of people that love it,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the same way people

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Speaker 3: look at me crazy for getting mustard, but I love mustard.

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Speaker 2: So you can get your cheese steak to order at

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Speaker 2: hops and Hogi's the way that you want.

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Speaker 1: It to be, Yes, sir, that's great. Little taste a

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Speaker 1: home got to Yeah, it tastes good. But I'm cut

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Speaker 1: away and I can't. I can't. I gotta fall backrom

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Speaker 1: the cheese steak.

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Speaker 2: So all right, last one for you. I had a

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Speaker 2: conversation with you in the locker room just about like

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Speaker 2: the the rigors of going through an NFL season and

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Speaker 2: how in it you mentioned you gained an appreciation playing

540
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Speaker 2: this game for like what other athletes go through. So like,

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Speaker 2: what did you do in the seventy six ers lost

542
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs? Like how did you How did you

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Speaker 2: handle knowing what those guys had to put their bodies

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Speaker 2: through while being a fan and being devastated that your

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Speaker 2: team lost.

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Speaker 1: How that hurts?

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Speaker 3: Because I know you are a Chicago fan, so I

548
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Speaker 3: feel like you trying me right now.

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Speaker 1: But that's cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Bulls fan. I got no leg to stand.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I'm That's why I'm shocked. But it's okay.

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Speaker 3: You know me and Kanti is still actively grieving. But

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Speaker 3: you know, I understand what it's like. Man, it definitely hurts.

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Speaker 3: You know, you put all you got, you know into

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Speaker 3: a season, especially when you get that close.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are the ones that hurt. But especially

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Speaker 1: for your body.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think you know, especially this past year,

560
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Speaker 3: playing all those snaps, just understanding you know what it

561
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Speaker 3: takes every week, you know, to get your body, you know,

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Speaker 3: capable of being able to play at a high level

563
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Speaker 3: over and over again. You know, I told Kenny, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm like man, Kenny and Buck, I'm like Bro, especially

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Speaker 3: Buck Bucks, a warrior.

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Speaker 2: Bro that kind of plays the unbelievable Bucks.

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Speaker 1: A Warrior bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you guys, you know another level of

569
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Speaker 3: respect always you guys already inspired me. But man, look

570
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Speaker 3: add something else to y'all, Jackiet, because you know it

571
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: definitely takes a different grind. But I think you know

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Speaker 3: that's something that you kind of learned from the Vets.

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Speaker 3: And we'll be telling the rookies. Man, it's really about

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Speaker 3: your routine.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Stick to your routine, man, stick to it constantly, stay

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Speaker 3: on top of stuff, don't let the small things become big.

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Speaker 1: And you know you're.

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Speaker 3: Going to have some Nickson crannies, but you look you

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Speaker 3: tough play through that.

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Speaker 1: You are right all right.

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Speaker 2: Zire Franklin here on the person behind the Pads Podcaszy,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you having me