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Speaker 1: way brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, presented by Microsoft

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Speaker 1: Surface as always, joined by Matt money Smith. And now

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Speaker 1: that we are in the Charges off season, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to bring guests on every week. And this guy does

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Speaker 1: this a week after the Senior Bowl for us. It's

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Speaker 1: an annual tradition. Now, Rick Sarah Tella NFL Draft Bible Money.

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Speaker 1: We love having Rick, we do and be sure to

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Speaker 1: check out all the great draft coverage at SI dot com.

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Speaker 1: We don't bring him on because it feels space to

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Speaker 1: bring him on, because he's one of the best, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the time. It's time is valuable. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you're coming off the Senior Bowl. Rick, A lot of

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Speaker 1: times quarterback dependent, you know. We know justin Herbert certainly

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Speaker 1: to let you know that he had too. That worked.

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Speaker 1: But this year it seemed like, maybe you know, little

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Speaker 1: little in terms of sizzle at that particular position, but

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Speaker 1: from that that week in that game, Yeah, Herbert put

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Speaker 1: years though, fellas, thanks for having me, Christian Pounder, ej Manuel,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. They made themselves a lot of money at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and so it was a little bit disappointing.

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Speaker 1: I know Will Levis out of Kentucky had some injuries

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Speaker 1: least interview with the teams. We didn't have that this year.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly the the star Leiden quarterback class, but guys

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Speaker 1: Tight end is a really strong group this year, and

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Speaker 1: this tank dell out of Houston. There is a lot

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Speaker 1: and a chess piece, Trey Dean could play free, he

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Speaker 1: could play strong, he could play a linebacker. He could

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Speaker 1: play slot. That would be a guy I would probably

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Speaker 1: target in the third or fourth round. Rick, do you

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Speaker 1: remember your evaluation of J. T. Woods. He was a

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Speaker 1: guy that charges drafted in the third round. Did not

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Speaker 1: get a lot of run this year at all. But

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Speaker 1: the hope is he can make a leap from his

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Speaker 1: rookie year to his second season. Yeah, we had a

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Speaker 1: big buzz. In fact, we had him. I think at

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Speaker 1: the NFL PA Bowl on our scouting staff was very

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Speaker 1: high on him. Now I lost tabs once he went

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Speaker 1: to the pros. Maybe he was injured. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the case was, but yeah, the skill set, the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: it's all there. And I remember him coming out there

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a buzz. So not sure

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Speaker 1: would happened this year, but I think he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that can at least at the very least make a

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Speaker 1: name for himself on the special teams. And I think

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Speaker 1: he would be a rotational defender I would imagine. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: our scouting department was very high on him coming out.

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Speaker 1: I think he made a bunch of plays on special

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Speaker 1: teams in college as well. Yeah, it just seemed like

447
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Speaker 1: for a just struggled a to diagnose b tackle, you

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Speaker 1: know angles, you know, really really struggled and run support.

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Speaker 1: I know, look, I know people are and look there's

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Speaker 1: a reason why people got excited about JT. Right he

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Speaker 1: lets he led the nation and interceptions, guy, what six

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Speaker 1: of them? I think that last year? But what about

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel bad just kind of jumping you're

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Speaker 1: asking you off the top of your head. What about

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Speaker 1: make the right decision more often than not. Can you

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Speaker 1: think of sort of secondary players that fall into that category, Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's not gonna run a four to three, but man,

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Speaker 1: the intangibles are there, the smarts are there. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: that comes to immediate thought is Riley Moss out of Iowa,

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Speaker 1: And like scouts keep telling me he's a safety because

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Speaker 1: he can't run, but I mean he's he's stuck. He

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Speaker 1: was neck and neck with every receiver out there and

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Speaker 1: the one on the runs during your Bowl. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between time speed and game speed. And

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Speaker 1: so I don't care if Riley Moss goes out to

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Speaker 1: the Combiner's pro day and runs a four or five

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Speaker 1: four and that's not sexy. He can stick you in

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Speaker 1: the side pocket. I'm keeping him at corner and at

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Speaker 1: the very least you have an instinctual ball hawk free

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Speaker 1: safety type. But man Riley Moss is the guy that

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Speaker 1: really standing. Kedron Smith from Kentucky and by the way,

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Speaker 1: great family. But he was lights out, lockdown at the

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Speaker 1: NFL PA Jim Nagan called us up, said, hey, we

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Speaker 1: need a corner. Who do you got Kedrin Smith? He

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Speaker 1: went down, lights out, I mean. And it's a shame

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Speaker 1: because he's not invited to the NFL Scouting combine. He

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Speaker 1: was snubbed. But Kedrin Smith's gonna get drafted. He's got length,

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Speaker 1: he's got sized another one of those guys. He's almost

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Speaker 1: six two, so people think, oh he's a safety. Not

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Speaker 1: so fast, my friend. He's got some man to man

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Speaker 1: coverage capabilities. Hey, Rick, last thing for me, and it's

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Speaker 1: a shame we're not gonna be able to do this

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Speaker 1: this year. What are the things I love doing with

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Speaker 1: money last year? Like the last five minutes of each podcast,

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Speaker 1: Money broke down punters and j K Scott. J K

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Speaker 1: Scott was awesome this year for the Chargers. They don't

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Speaker 1: need a punter, but just for money, because I think

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Speaker 1: this may be the only time that we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about punters. Give me your top three or four

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Speaker 1: putters and uh, I'll get year. It was an anomaly

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Speaker 1: year last year. We had so many good punters. It

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Speaker 1: was just a putty. Money was the Melk Keiper junior

497
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Speaker 1: of putty. We had Stowe House, We had all these

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Speaker 1: dudes and Buddy knew everything about every putter in Haze,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, it was just a really weird year

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Speaker 1: last year. I'll tell you what, guys, this is my

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Speaker 1: twenty first year covering the draft. It's I think my

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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth year working with the NFL PA Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I've been to hundreds, if not thousands, of Pro days.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a line of scouts waiting to speak

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Speaker 1: to a punter like I did out in Pasadena with

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Speaker 1: this Michigan kid, Roberts. I think he is and our

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Speaker 1: our scout had him between five one five and five

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Speaker 1: three five average hang time and he's a righty punter.

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Speaker 1: But Nick Novak or special teams coach said, hey, check

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Speaker 1: this out. He's got a lefty spin on it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that's happening, but he had a punt

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Speaker 1: in the game. The guy fumbled. They say a left handed,

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Speaker 1: left footed punter is responsible for one winning a year

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna muffle anyway. Roberts out of Michigan. You

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Speaker 1: got my guy Corsac out of Rutgers from Australia, he's

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Speaker 1: got the boot. And then you got Turk from Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: You might remember his father. Oh yeah, yes, you got

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Speaker 1: some some pretty good punters here. And the Syracuse kid,

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Speaker 1: a bad eight Sarah Kus has a knack for putting

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Speaker 1: punters into the pros. They got another one in Smith.

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Speaker 1: Last thing, Rick Um. You know, Bruce Felman does the

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Speaker 1: Freak List, and every year we see these just physical

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Speaker 1: freaks specimens that for whatever reason, they slide. You know

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Speaker 1: last year Terrek Woollen. You think about you know, DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf slide into the late second. Is there that guy

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Speaker 1: that that measurables just off the charts but for some

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Speaker 1: reason production wasn't there. Hows every year, every single year,

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Speaker 1: one of these physical freak kids drafted in the fourth

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Speaker 1: round and becomes like the sensation of the draft, and

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Speaker 1: how did we pass on him? And this year we're

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Speaker 1: talking trek Woollen redraft me a top five pick. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for that setup money. I mean, I got a good

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Speaker 1: one for you. Yeah, Derek Parish out of Houston, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I got my red on today, maybe just for him.

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Speaker 1: He reminds me of Heuscheck. And this kid is a thumper. Okay.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt I think after the fourth game, but

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Speaker 1: he was playing pass rusher, he was playing defensive end linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He had about five sacks, ain't a half tackles for loss.

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Speaker 1: He runs sub four or five at two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty pounds. He's got an eleven foot broad jump, a

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Speaker 1: forty inch vertical. I don't know about you, guys. I

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Speaker 1: like my fullbacks built that way. And I think this

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Speaker 1: kid is going to be a weapon in the mold

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Houscheck. And I'll tell you what. He might

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Speaker 1: not even get drafted, but he is going to make

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Speaker 1: an impact at the NFL level. He is on the

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Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman's Freak list, and he made a name for

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Speaker 1: himself one of these All Star games. I think it

549
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Speaker 1: was the Shrine Bowl where he's coming out now as

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Speaker 1: a fullback. So it's a it's a tricky position, right

551
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Speaker 1: because you've now eliminated yourself from half the team half

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Speaker 1: the teams in the NFL Bowl. But man, this kid

553
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Speaker 1: is the real deal. Derek Harrish out of Houston, love it. Rick.

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Speaker 1: It's always a highlight of the offseason talking to you. Man.

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Speaker 1: You said you're a Manhattan Beach riesleague. Next time you're

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Speaker 1: a Manhattan Beach you gotta hit a sub up. But

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Speaker 1: we'll get you out of here. I'm just promoting what

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Speaker 1: you have going on with everything at SI. No. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, guys. I mean, like I mentioned our twenty

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Speaker 1: first year of coverage, we're fortunate enough to be the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft content provider over on Sports Illustrated, so we're

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Speaker 1: not hard to find. And of course we have the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft Bible publication coming out. You can find that

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Speaker 1: at All Access Football dot Com. And of course you

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Speaker 1: guys will certainly be receiving a VIP package. Appreciate its.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Rick. We'll take a quick break in money

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Speaker 1: and I will break down the Super Bowl on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: with Rick Sarahtella. Rick's great, always fun, love it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Draft season, it's hope springs eternal. Right when you don't

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl this time of year, you start

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Speaker 1: thinking about how you're gonna win the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: what positions you can fill through the draft. And look,

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Speaker 1: we saw how important the draft was. You know, what's

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Speaker 1: the what's the quote from Tom to Lasco. He saved

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Speaker 1: our season. You know, Jamari saw your sixth round pick.

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Speaker 1: He saved our season. You know, without him at left

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Speaker 1: tackle after Rashaan Slater left in Week three, they are

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Speaker 1: not in the playoffs. I know it did not end

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Speaker 1: the way that we wanted it to end, the way

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Speaker 1: the players, the coaches, the front office wanted it to end,

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Speaker 1: the owners, the fans wanted it to end. But you

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Speaker 1: don't have a ten win season, you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: have a twenty seven zero lead in the first half.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, look, Jamari got hurt in that game, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that that cannot be overlooked. So I get why

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Speaker 1: You know, Dean Leonard, you know, and Jessire Taylor you know,

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Speaker 1: ten number, you know, and get the number one wild

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Speaker 1: card spy like it's it's an important deal. And obviously

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Speaker 1: you already talked about Zion, so we know how important

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Speaker 1: the draft is. I think it's a real interesting year

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers. I know, probably next week we'll get

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Speaker 1: into it post super Bowl, just you know what what

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Speaker 1: the roster is going to look like, what money looks like,

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Speaker 1: extensions look like, and how you juggle this cap, because

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Speaker 1: in terms of converting salary to signing bonus, trading players,

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Speaker 1: stuff's going to come into play because they spent a

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Speaker 1: doing it, you know, and spending a couple hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars in free agent contracts, And this year they're gonna

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Speaker 1: that's going to change the calculus dramatically. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: dj on, and there's a number of other folks that

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Speaker 1: certainly get the folks excited about twenty twenty three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a great point because the next couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks we'll see what the roster looks like, and then

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Speaker 1: free agency will dictate what they may do in the draft.

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Speaker 1: So still a ways to go before we get to April,

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Speaker 1: but never too early to talk about the NFL Draft. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this just popped in my head. Dude, you called one

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Speaker 1: of the best college basketball games of the year in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: What was that experience? Like, that's incredible, It's unbelievable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sixteenth meeting between the Who's Years and boiler Makers. You know,

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00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: it's one of the great I know, everybody knows, you know, Duke,

637
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville, all those sort of things. But

638
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: this is probably one of the most overlooked rivalries in

639
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: college basketball because look, in fairness, you know, Purdue in

640
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: Indiana have not made championship runs in the last thirty years.

641
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a while since they found themselves

642
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: in the final four. So they are two really, really

643
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: good teams. Indiana was the preseason pick to win the

644
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Big Ten. They had some big injuries. Xavier Johnson, Race

645
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: Thompson both went down to their veteran leaders and they're

646
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: getting healthy now. And so for those that don't follow

647
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: college basketball, Zachid is just, you know, one of the

648
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: great You gotta watch Purdue basketball. He's seven foot four.

649
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: He's athletic, he's unstoppable, like teams just cannot stop him.

650
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: And it's fun to watch. So, you know, twenty two

651
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: and one, they're only lost coming at a buzzer beater

652
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: by Rutgers, you know, at one point loss. Otherwise they'd

653
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: have been perfect going into that game at Assembly Hall,

654
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: and Indiana gets out with a win. They led by fifteen,

655
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Perdue cut it down to two with three minutes left,

656
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: and then Hoosiers pulled away, and you know, fans rushed

657
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: the court and all that sort of stuff. It was

658
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: really cool to be in the building be part of it.

659
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: And lucky enough, you know, I was assigned the rematch.

660
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: So I'll be going back to Mackie in a couple

661
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: of weeks for the Indiana at Purdue rematch, the two

662
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeenth meeting between the two teams. And by

663
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: the way, I just want to make sure I'm not

664
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: left out. I got it right here. My Microsoft surface

665
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: goes with me when I hit the road. I love

666
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: this thing. I know we're sponsored by him and stuff,

667
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: and it's great, but I would not sing its praises

668
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: if I did not believe in it. I absolutely love it.

669
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: It's my stat monitor when we're on the road. They

670
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: have a thing called tabs that I use extensively where

671
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: I can pop back and forth between all my stats

672
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: for the different teams. When I want to dig something up.

673
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: It's so easy to access with the search tools. It's

674
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: just such an awesome piece of technology. That really is.

675
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's essential to everything I do during the

676
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Charger games. It's always in front of me. I love

677
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: the way it's set up. And now with with college

678
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: basketball season happening, it goes everywhere I go. You got

679
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: a Charger's logo at Assembly Hall, They're like, Okay, I

680
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: know that's the voice of the Chargers. It's funny and

681
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: it's and it's actually happened. When I pop it up,

682
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: they look at it and they're like, what's out all about?

683
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: And then they start talking to be like, oh, yeah,

684
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: I know you are. So it's kind of funny. That's awesome.

685
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: All right, Super Bowl? If you look at this game

686
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: through Chargers glasses, right, Chiefs Eagles. I go back to

687
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: last year, Chargers go on the road, they beat the Chiefs.

688
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: They go on the road, they beat the Eagles. Obviously

689
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: played the Chiefs twice this year, lost by a field

690
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: goal in both games. These are the two best teams

691
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: in football money, the number one seed in each conference,

692
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: both had home field, both protected it, and we have

693
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: quite the matchup. Man. Both teams have been awesome this year,

694
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: and I really I don't know what to expect. I

695
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: could see both teams winning this. Yeah, you know, it's

696
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I wish we had both quarterbacks one hundred percent. I

697
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: think it's clear that both are hurting. You know, you

698
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: could see the way Patrick Mahomes moved in the championship

699
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: game that he was not right clearly. And you can

700
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: see the way that Jalen hurts through the ball in

701
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: the in the conference championship that he's not right. So

702
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's going to play a big

703
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: role in the way the game plays out. You know,

704
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: is Jalen hurt shoulder healed? Because you know, it just

705
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: seemed like the accuracy was off and it's been there

706
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: all year, certain, you know, and same thing with Patrick

707
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes to me, like you look at it, and if

708
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: games you know, are one on the lines, the Eagles

709
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: have the advantage. They have the better offensive line, they

710
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: have the better defensive line. If Patrick Mahomes is not

711
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: right and he can't move, and you've got that front.

712
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, just you're talking about seventy sacks in the

713
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: regular season, seventy five players with double digit sacks, and

714
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: you see Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, Josh Sweat,

715
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Hassan Reddick. It's crazy what they throw at

716
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: you up front. So like to me, and look, like

717
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: we said earlier, Chris Jones, you can make a compelling

718
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: case he's defensive player of the Year. I mean, that's

719
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: that's why the Chiefs won the conference championship, you know,

720
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: because of what Chris Jones was able to do to

721
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: that front offensive line wise. You know, it's just my

722
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: lot of what he's been able to do after just

723
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: starting playing, you know, from you know, from down under

724
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: to coming here and just figuring out football and how

725
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: he's become a dominant force at one tackle, perhaps the

726
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: best center in the league in Jason Kelsey certainly the

727
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: leader of that line, Lane Johnson at right tackle, maybe

728
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: the best right tackle in football. Like that's just to me,

729
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: that's so much to overcome for the Chiefs. But Patrick Mahomes,

730
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's like to me, that's why you pick

731
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You're just like, I'm not picking against Patrick Mahomes.

732
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do it. So I think

733
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: the key is gonna be turned over as Jalen Hurts

734
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: only lost fol in game this year was the Commanders,

735
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: I believe, on a Monday night, and I think they

736
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: had like four turnovers in that game. They've been so

737
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: good at taking care of the ball. So if they

738
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: take Carol the football, I think the odds of the

739
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Eagles winning the game goes up. But what struck me

740
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: funny was I don't know if he saw Brandon Iyuk's

741
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: comments about the Chiefs and the Eagles. He said that

742
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: if he was a betting man, he goes I'm not

743
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: a betting man, but I would put everything that I

744
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: own on the Chiefs to beat the Eagles. And I

745
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: know that the Chiefs beat up the Niners pretty good

746
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. And I don't know if Brandon

747
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: has a little sour grace because he didn't have a

748
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFC Championship game, But that that just

749
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of struck me because the Chiefs, you talk about

750
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: all the depth and all those players that the Eagles

751
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: have on both sides of the ball. But we talk

752
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: about the impact players on the Chiefs, a guy like

753
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Patrick Mahons, obviously Travis Kelsey. Those are the

754
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: guys that win you games on the biggest stage. So

755
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: that's what I think is fascinating. You have players in

756
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: the league saying that, oh man, the Chiefs are gonna

757
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: be beat the Eagles, no problem, and then you have

758
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: all the evidence what the Eagles have done this year

759
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: and how good Jalen Hurts has played. Um, that's why

760
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm kind of at a loss at this point. Yeah,

761
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: I think, Look, I think there have been concerns on

762
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: the secondary for the Eagles all season. I use a

763
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver, so yeah, I think there's some sour grapes there.

764
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: Perhaps he's beating his guy and he's just there's nothing,

765
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: there's nothing there. You know, we can't get you know,

766
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: we can't get anything out to him because of the injuries.

767
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: So you know, I think there's a level of a

768
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: frustration there. You know. You look at I'm trying to

769
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: find the numbers, but I don't see, like I don't

770
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: remember the Eagles. Yeah, they only gave up twenty two

771
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns. But I think, like if I remember right, um,

772
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: the the Chiefs had a serious issue. Let me see

773
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: where is it the Chiefs? You see, the Chiefs were

774
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: really That's what it is. So the Chiefs were really

775
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: good defensively against the run, only ten rushing touchdowns allowed.

776
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: So I think that's perhaps where it comes into play.

777
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, San Francisco is a run heavy team. Everything

778
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: comes off those designed runs from Kyle Shanahan. And when

779
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs run, defense stymies you and it's very hard

780
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: for you to get anything going. That's where I think

781
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: maybe Iyuk is coming from, like, oh I saw this

782
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: I run. The defense was really good to me. Again,

783
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: I just think it comes down to quarterback health. If

784
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not right, I don't quite see how

785
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: he's able to get to get out of those you know,

786
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: to get away from that pass rush. And I think

787
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: that impacts things dramatically. I think there's a reason why

788
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: the line is so is one and a half. You know,

789
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a pick um contest. Do you believe in the lines?

790
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Do you believe in the quarterback? And you know, because

791
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: because Jalen's been banged up and his shoulders not quite right.

792
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: I think that's you know, where the potential MVP of

793
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: the I mean, these are the two this is probably

794
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: these are the two guys. They're gonna finish one and

795
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: two in the MVP race. You know, Mahomes probably gonna

796
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: win it and Jalen Hurts because he missed those couple games.

797
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna finish a second or I don't think

798
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: it would surprise many people if he did win it,

799
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: because it shows you what happens to that Eagle's offense

800
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: when he's not there. So if I had depict it's

801
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: we've seen it. We see it too many times. Chris.

802
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: It's like you have them dead the rights and somehow,

803
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: some way, and whether you want to say it's fair

804
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: or not, you know, you see the hold, you know

805
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: in the in the game, you know that that led

806
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: to the conversion that set up the game winning field goal,

807
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: or the that led to the run that led to

808
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: the penalty that led to the game winning field goal.

809
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: It just seems like things break right for that team,

810
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, they just they always do. And if it's

811
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: a flag that's not thrown on a hold, if it's

812
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: a player making a critical error and I'm not saying

813
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't a penalty. It absolutely was a penalty on

814
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: a side, you know, on the sideline. But just those

815
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: things just happen to the Chiefs with Patrick Bohomes. It's

816
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: the craziest thing, but they do so. I think in

817
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: a tight contest, i'd be apt. Yeah. But see then

818
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: I say it, and then I just I just think

819
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: their offensive line stinks. I just do. I think he

820
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: can't really say it money, like you can't, you don't

821
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: you don't want to say it, right, No, I don't.

822
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: I don't because they beat the Chargers twice and it

823
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: and it hurts and it stings. But I just, man,

824
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: I see how much they hold and get away with it.

825
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: And then I listen to freaking Mitchell Schwartz on podcasts

826
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: saying things like, well, technically it's not a hold because

827
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: if you if you've engaged and you have your arm

828
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: bar hour as long as you and your feet, it's

829
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: not a whole shut up. I don't want to hear that.

830
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: It's like he's he's got his arm around a guy's

831
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: neck and he's impeding his forward progress. I don't care

832
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: what his feet are doing at that point. You know,

833
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: and look, it's ridiculous for me to say that, you know,

834
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: versus a Pro Bowl offensive lineman. But the film's there.

835
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's and it had and I

836
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: see it when I go back and watch the Charger

837
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: games and Joey Bosa getting held on every single play

838
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: and Orlando Brown holding on every single play because his

839
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: feet are slow. It's just, um, I think they're you

840
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: know what, I'll take the Eagles. I think they're gonna struggle.

841
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: I think they're because you've got it inside with Hargrave

842
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: and and Cox, You've got it outside with Reddick and

843
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Sweat and Graham. So I do think that defensive line

844
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: is going to be able to do some serious damage. Yeah. Whatever,

845
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: I'll take the Eagles. I'm taking I'm taking the Eagles too.

846
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: We talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Just

847
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: the way that their offense is constructed. If they need

848
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: to run the ball, they got the horses to run

849
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: the ball. If they need to throw the ball, they

850
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: got weapons up and down the field, led by Goddard

851
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: and A. J. Brown and DeVante Smith. Jalen Hurts has

852
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: been more accurate as a passer this year. I think

853
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: that they can play a number of different ways. And

854
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's a ton of former Chargers in

855
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: this game too, money, So start on the Eagles side.

856
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: You've got Shane Steikin as the OC. You got Nick Sirianni,

857
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: who obviously was, yeah, the wide receiver's coach, Um Kaisier White, Lindvall, Joseph,

858
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: you got Melvin Gordon and Cole Christensen on the practice

859
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: squad of the Chiefs. So there's a lot of bolts

860
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: in this game, yeah, no doubt, And I think maybe

861
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: that's also part of it. You know, I like and

862
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Nick so much. You know, got to know Shane quite

863
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: well during his time here. Got to a little bit

864
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: because he and Nick Hardwick when he was here his

865
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: first season, were super close, so I was able to

866
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: get to know Nick. I actually saw both of them

867
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: last year at the combine. We ended up hanging out

868
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: one night out drinking and having a good time and

869
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: just kind of catching up with them, and it was

870
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: really cool to talk, you know, a little bit of

871
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: football with Shane and just listen to how excited he

872
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: was about the upcoming season, you know, and that was

873
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: before they traded for a j. Brown, But just kind

874
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: of chatting with him about how things were going. So

875
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: maybe that's where my bias is creeping in. You know,

876
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: just really loving to see what would love to see

877
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: those two guys, you know, get a Super Bowl ring,

878
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: as much as I appreciated them when they were here

879
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: with the Charger, as much as I like him as people,

880
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: and plus I just don't I don't know how you

881
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: can't root for Jalen Hurts like he is one of

882
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: the easiest, one of the easiest players to want to

883
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: see do well his work ethic, the way he handled

884
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: his demotion at Alabama, not missing a beat, transfer in Oklahoma,

885
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: being in the Heisman conversation, you know, not whining about

886
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: slipping out of the first round, of being a second

887
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: round pick despite his resume and what he was able

888
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: to do in college, and you know, just could not

889
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: be more excited for him as well. So maybe there's

890
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of a bias

891
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: and a little bit of a being interest there. It's

892
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: fine though, you know. Kaiser White was one of my

893
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: favorite guys on the Chargers last year. Just just a

894
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: great dude off the field. He produced at a high

895
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: level for the Chargers last year. Produced at a high

896
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: level for the Eagles this year, and it was kind

897
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: of a homecoming for him to go back to Philly.

898
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: He's from that area, went to West Virginia. So I'd

899
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: like to see Kaiser get a ring because you know,

900
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: he's had a heck of a year for the Eagles

901
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: and deserves it. So we're both going with Philly. Huh.

902
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: You know, I say it and I hate it. I'm

903
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I feel like I know the Chiefs

904
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: are gonna win. I just did we got a minute? Hey,

905
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: you can amend. You can amend at any time over

906
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: the next minute. Money. Like I said, I that's the

907
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: only reason. Like I think when you look at it

908
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: on paper, there's there's really only one reason to take that.

909
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: There's two reasons to take the Chiefs. It's Patrick Mahomes

910
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: will not lose. Can you really envision Mahomes go into

911
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: three Super Bowls and only win in one? You know,

912
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: can you really knowing how things just always break their way?

913
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, why would it not happen here? But you know,

914
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I look at the you know, I look at what

915
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Look. All the Eagles can do is play

916
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: who's in front of them? And I don't you know,

917
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: I hate the whole Look who they've played all see. Look, okay,

918
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: Brock Purty got knocked out. Josh Johnson's arm fell off

919
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: like I mean, he had a concussion. You know, Brock

920
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: parties are Rock Purty's arm got ripped off like okay,

921
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: But that's just that's what happened in the game, you know.

922
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: So all they can do is play and dominate, and

923
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: they absolutely dominated the Giants offense. Just that defense wrecked

924
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: that Giant's offense that a lot of people thought was

925
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: going to be able to hang in that game. So

926
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: now stick, I'll you know, I'll stick with the with

927
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles, know, absolutely, absolutely right, no question in here.

928
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: All right, I'm taking the Eagles. Money's taking the Eagles.

929
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna get out of here. Mind. Well, hey, Rick

930
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: was the first guest of the off season. We're gonna

931
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: keep getting guests on, talking draft, talking free agency. So

932
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: look forward to keeping this rolling on Thursdays. Thank you

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00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: to Microsoft Surface for money. I'm Chris. This has been

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