1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: What do you do when life doesn't go according to 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: plan that moment you lose a job, or a loved one, 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: or even a piece of yourself. I'm Brookshields and this 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: is now What, a podcast about pivotal moments as told 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: by people who lived them. Each week, I sit down 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: with a guest to talk about the times they were 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: knocked off course and what they did to move forward. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Some stories are funny, others are gut wrenching, but all 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: are unapologetically human and remind us that every success and 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: every setback is accompanied by a choice, and that choice 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: answers one question. Now, what what guest makes you laugh 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: the hardest? 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh man. The one guest who came on who made 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 2: me flap harder than anyone else was the last time 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: they were always one last time Tiffany Hattish. And the 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: reason that Tiffany Hattish made me laugh so hard is 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: she was all over George ste Monopolis with the jokes 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: and she made George actually kind of dance for George. 19 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: It was a dance, I know it was. He refusedes 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 2: to dance for me on GMA. So Tiffany Hattish, Dotty Parton, 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Dottany Parton's actually another funny one and told me one 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: of the funniest things I've ever heard. When I asked 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: her one time, so, what's the first thing you do 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: when you wake up? She said, Well, Michael, I put 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: on my clothes and I go home. Ah wow. 26 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: My guest today is a familiar face to many of you. 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan is a television personality, a journalist, a former 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: NFL legend and then into Football's Hall of Fame, a 29 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: business owner, an entrepreneur, a dad. Oh, I could go 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: on and on. We met a number of times over 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: the years, and I'm always blown away by how kind 32 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: and genuinely down to earth he is. I love Michael's 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: approach to life, and I'm in awe of his work ethic. 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Chatting with him is always fun, and I'm so pleased 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to share a conversation with you all. So, without further ado, 36 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: here is Michael Straham. Well, thank you for taking time 37 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: to talk to me. There's so much about you that 38 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm so in awe of, and I feel you're such 39 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: an inspiration. Tell me just a little bit about your 40 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: childhood because you were an army brat. My husband was 41 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: also an army brat, and then you went to Germany 42 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: at age nine. 43 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was nine. We moved to Germany where I 44 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: was nine. We were at Fort Brake, North Carolina before that. 45 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: I grew up there. 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: Do you still speak the language? 47 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh I can't. Well, if we were there together, we 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: would we would always have to be able to order 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: food and drinks. Okay, outside of that, we might be 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: a little iffy. 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: That's okay. Did you enjoy it? 52 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: I loved it. I think growing up overseas and growing 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: up on a military base gave me a very different 54 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: perspective than most people get and have the ability in 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 2: what way just to be around different people of different backgrounds, 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: different races, different religions, and none of it mattered because 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: when you're on these military bases, you're just living. You're Americans, 58 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: You're all like one, and it didn't matter. And it 59 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: taught me and something that I think has helped me 60 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: in my life now. I look at people as individuals. 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: I don't look at you for color of your skin 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: or where you're from and what you have. I don't 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: care about those things. It's like the quality of the person. 64 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: And I attribute that to growing up on the base overseas. 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: But you know what, that that just goes back to 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're not born with these with prejudice in 67 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: that way, like we're not born noticing somebody is different 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: than the other person. We're born to know. Wait, that 69 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: person feels safe, that person I feel is going to 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: love me, like really sort of saying that type of 71 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: freedom of perspective allows you to meet people where they 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: are exactly. 73 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: And I've found it's been refreshing to meet so many 74 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: people and go that's completely the opposite of what they're 75 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: maybe their public perception would be it what you would 76 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: or what they would look like. 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: And did you feel it in reverse? Like did you 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: feel it? Was it reciprocal? 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think they're there. It was definitely reciprocal, 80 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: you know. And I think in my life now, because 81 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: people know who I am, they always come in with 82 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: this preconceived notion of you know, or how the people 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: who do know who who think they know who I 84 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: am their preconceived notion what I'm like. But I think 85 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: for me, I've been able to transfer who I am 86 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: to what I do. Yeah, if you understand, like, I 87 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: don't have to get on TV and try to be 88 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: a different person. My job is I kind of been 89 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: able to do my job and stay the same person. 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: But I also am aware that I cannot believe that 91 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: my job is who I am, this whole celebrity thing 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: and his whole thing. I'm uncomfortable with that because I 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: just want to finish doing what I do. Like everybody 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: goes to regular jobs or any job, and I just 95 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: want to come home and I want to walk around 96 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: the street and I want to say hello to people, 97 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: and I want to go to the coffee shop and 98 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: get a coffee and. 99 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But it's how you put that out there. 100 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean two people, my husbands. One of them said, 101 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: he ran into you, met you for the first time 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: at a boxing match. Okay, uh, usually more than two 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: people at a boxing match, and met you once two 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: years later, ran into you at SOHO house and you 105 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: remember his name. And my husband calls friend of his 106 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: who was in shause at that minute, and he's like, 107 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not gonna believe what just happened. 108 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: He just remembered my name after two years. He's like, damn, 109 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: he did the same thing to me. So you put 110 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: out there this accessibility, and what's interesting is celebrity aparts athletes, 111 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: they are themselves, whereas actors are playing other people. So 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: there's an intrinsic sort of difference. So, but people think 113 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: they know you. They also think it's been easy for 114 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: you everything. You just had it all. You had it 115 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: all handed to you, didn't you your overnight success? Aren't you? 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: You are too you know. They think you just selled 117 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: up and they said, hey, just throw her all over 118 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: the place. She's gotta make it. There's no work involved. 119 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: But I think that is up that you heal the point. 120 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's what it's so funny as an athlete, 121 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: because most people have no idea why I went to college. 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: They have no idea I went to HBCU. They think, 123 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, they think either I went to some big 124 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: school or some fancy program, and I didn't. I went 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: to a school where we had one pair of cleats 126 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: for the entire season. We took a bus. We literally 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: took a bus to every game. My senior year, we 128 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: went to Florida on a plane, and we went to 129 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: Las Vegas on a plane my senior year. The other years, 130 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: every place from one trip to Florida, Mississippi were Arkansas. 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: We were on buses and we had bag launches. I 132 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: respect the Shawnee's restaurant chain, but I if I can 133 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: help it, will never eat out another show because that's 134 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: all the fetous good for football players. You feed the 135 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: whole team for a discount. 136 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: How do you think that shaped you? Though? How do 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: you think that that I don't know that the real 138 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: truth and the grit of that experience and that bonding 139 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: and that amount of time spent sort of being uncomfortable, 140 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: how do you think that's shaped you. 141 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm grateful and I'm appreciative because I know the other 142 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: side of it. And when you come to the NFL 143 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: and everybody's given you a new pair of cleats every 144 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: day if you want for practice in the games, and 145 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: guys are putting your pads in your pants and putting 146 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: your jersey on your shoulder path. 147 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Before, explain that to me a little bit better. I'm 148 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: not aware of sports that much, but wow, okay, that's 149 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: a piece of it. I did not reckon. I did 150 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: not know about nobody's putting. People have put pads in 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: my boots before. 152 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: A little different, okay, the kind of the same concept. 153 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: But when you get these somebody does everything for you, 154 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of guys grew up that way. They 155 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: were always the best in middle school, elementary school, high school, college. 156 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: I didn't grow up that way. I grew up where 157 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: everything felt like it was a struggle everything. I had 158 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: to prove myself to get the respect that I wanted 159 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: out of whatever I did. But it drove me to 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: work harder, and it drives me to this day to 161 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: appreciate everything, to appreciate everything I do, everybody I'm allowed 162 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: to be around, and people allow me into their lives, 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: and I appreciate friendships, and yeah, just gave it this 164 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: great appreciation of life because I understand what the alternative 165 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: could be. I remember value. Taught me value of people too, 166 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: because I remember cutting grass and I bestly remember moving 167 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: furniture growing up and working in the kitchen also, But 168 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: people treated you as if you pretty much had no value, 169 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: like you're here to serve me. And I have always 170 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: always felt I always knew I felt unseen because I 171 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: knew that's where I had to be at that time, 172 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: but that wasn't going to be my life. So now 173 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm where I'm at in my life. It's very important 174 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: for me to make sure that everybody around me is 175 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: seen and that I let them know that like a 176 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: just a hello, or remembering someone's name like you said earlier, 177 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: using it because that's a personal connection to that person 178 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: that some people may just go just somebody who's you know, 179 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: cleaning the dishes off the table. Hell, I was at 180 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: guy at one point. 181 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: I call the show now what because there are so 182 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: many moments in our lives that are pivotal that things 183 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: change in our lives, either for the better or for 184 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: the worse, and whether we realize that at that time 185 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: or not, they're pivotal, and it's how we react to them. 186 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: And I'm curious if there is an outstanding now one 187 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: moment for you that comes to mind? 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I have several two that stand out. 189 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: One when I was thirteen and the other one when 190 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: I was seventeen. And when I was thirteen, this was 191 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: kind of funny now, but I was. I was a 192 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: big bone kid. Let's just put it that way. I 193 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: was a big bone boy. 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: I can call him a basketball so we'll talk. 195 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: But my brothers and their friends, I used to I'm 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: the youngest of six, like I said earlier, after run 197 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: around with them, and they called me Bob. I thought 198 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: it was cool because I'm the youngest of the kids 199 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: and I'm hanging out with the older kids and they 200 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: give me a nickname and usually get a nickname, and 201 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: me sure, cool. But then one day one of the 202 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: friends told me that Bob meant big old butt booty 203 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: on back, like you can grab your wallet like that 204 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: your but so big, and I cried like a baby. 205 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: But it was pivotal because I went out and somehow 206 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: scround up the money to buy the Jane Fonda workout 207 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: tapes and I did the Jane Fonda workout tape, the 208 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: butt lift, the side lifts, all that stuff, and then 209 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: herschel Walker back and back in what eighty three eighty 210 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: you or something like that or eighty four was big time, 211 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: big time football player and he was coming out of 212 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: here in Berthiage, Georgia. He had a book and it 213 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: was all about body weight, push up, sit up, pushing tires. 214 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: I did though, between Jane Fond and herschel Walker. I 215 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: did those workouts and it worked. It's like hey, but 216 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: my dad saw me working so hard, so he said, 217 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: you know what, I'll work out with you. So every 218 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: day my dad and I used to go to the 219 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 2: gym six days a week and we work out. And 220 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: there were times when I'm thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year old 221 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: kid and I'm like, I want to be here right now. 222 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: On the weekend, I'm my friend are having fun. My 223 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: dad said, don't worry, Son, you put it into work, 224 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: then you have your fun. But it will all pay 225 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: off one day. I'm in a kid in Germany, just 226 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: working out, trying not to be called Bob. I'm not 227 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: thinking about sports in any way, not even playing any sports. 228 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: And I get the scholarship. My dad sends me to 229 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: Houston five months, live with my uncle. Get one scholarship 230 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: Texas Southern University. After my first semester. This is the 231 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: second point, go home for Christmas break. I was way 232 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: from home for five months. Oh my god. I hated college, 233 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: hated everything about it. I go, I take the light bulbs, 234 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: like I was not going back to school. I cleaned 235 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: that room out and my dad was like, I was 236 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: like two weeks since school had started. I was like 237 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: two weeks I'm still in Germany. But Dad said, what 238 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: are you doing here? I'm like, I'm not going back 239 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: to school. I thought I was gonna man up, and 240 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: he looked at me and said, what are you going 241 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: to do. I'll get a job. And he looked at 242 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: me again and said, what are you going to do, 243 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: And like a light bulb clicked in my mind that 244 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: you know what, you got to grow up. You can't 245 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: live your life and expect mommy and daddy to take 246 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: care of you for your whole life. Take care of you, know, 247 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: take advantage of whatever opportunities you have. But if you 248 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: got to go back to school because your dad's not 249 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: letting you stay here, anything you do from here on out, 250 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: you do it to the best of your abilities, because 251 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: anybody can just go do it, just just try your 252 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: best and see what happens. And that moment changed my life. 253 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: I realized I didn't have the luxury of depending on 254 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: my mom and dad. They looked at me like, you 255 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: got an opportunity, You're going to be grown, You're taking 256 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: care of yourself. You figure it out. And those two 257 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: moments changed my life. One manue work out, the other 258 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: one that's left of football, and my dad pushed me 259 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: to stay with it. 260 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: So something does strike me about what you've been saying. 261 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: It strikes me the number of times that you've had 262 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: to be separated from your loved ones at different points 263 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: in your life. You were a young father, so as 264 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: a young father, when your career first started as a son, 265 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: you were saying from your parents and a felt. I mean, 266 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: just all of your career has had to bring you 267 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: away and be alone in environments. How did that affect you? 268 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Having to spend that much time separated from the people 269 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: who loved you and you loved. 270 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: That was hard, The hardest thing I've ever done. That's 271 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: why I really why I wanted to quit college and 272 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: go back, because I had my parents were there, my 273 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: brother's there, my first love with their in Germany. So 274 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, this is where I need 275 00:14:59,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: to be. 276 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Had you had a baby by then, No, no. 277 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Not by then, and that was a few years later, 278 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: but even then that was another moment. When I had 279 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: my daughter, Tadda been, you know, going into my senior year, 280 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, I have no choice but to figure 281 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: something out, like this is this life is real right 282 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: now because it's not about me, it's about her and 283 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: making sure that she's okay, giving her the best opportunity. 284 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: So you have to sacrifice a lot of yourself. I 285 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: had to get rid of the selfishness that I had 286 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: in order to do what I felt needed to be 287 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: done to make sure that they were going to be okay. 288 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Is it really selfishness though? Or was it youth? And 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't strike me as selfish. It just 290 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: strikes me as maybe a little afraid young, you know, 291 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: surrounded by your siblings and then on the base, which 292 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: you've said is so secure, and then all of a 293 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: sudden out of your comfort zone. You don't even know 294 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: what your value is yet because it doesn't come in 295 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: the form of a passion yet. 296 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I agree, And I didn't. I didn't 297 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: know what my future was going to be. I just 298 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: I knew i'd work hard. I knew that I would 299 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: if I had an opportunity, I would do my best 300 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: at it. But it was still tough, because no matter 301 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: so young and having kids and having all the responsibilities 302 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: you do. I do look back and I do think, 303 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: you know, I wish I had done a lot of 304 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: things better as far as being a parent, because I 305 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: felt like there were so many times that I should 306 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: have probably sacrificed certain things in order to be a 307 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: little bit more present. But then there are times I 308 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: looked back, and I think I couldn't. In order to 309 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: have the life that I've been able to, you know, 310 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: give them, truly provide and give them. I had to 311 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: sacrifice a lot of things. And a lot of people 312 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: say they're the balance. It's a really tough balance. It's 313 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: a tough balance, and I don't know if there really 314 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: is one. In my instance. 315 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: When do you think you started? When do you think 316 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: you really started to seriously consider a career in broadcast 317 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: and what that would mean. 318 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: I think a few years before I retired, I was 319 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: just always doing stuff for networks. Would have asked me 320 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: because I thought it's fun, I'm having a good time. 321 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: This is I'd ever thought about getting paid. I didn't 322 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: really know with a career. I thought it would just 323 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: something you do to have a good time. And one 324 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: head of a studio, head of a network called me 325 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: for lunch one day and at lunch asked me if 326 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: I realized if I knew how much long I wanted 327 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: to play football, And then I was like, wow, he 328 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: asked me this. Then he was like, because we really 329 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: would love for you to consider come joining our network. 330 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: And that's the first time I realized that, oh, there's 331 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: another side after the game. But Fox was incredible when 332 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: I used to go do that show because it was free, 333 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: it was yourself, it wasn't rehearsed. Everybody loved each other. 334 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: It was like a family. So when I retired, I 335 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: knew that was where I was going to go, and 336 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: I was just lucky enough that they wanted me. 337 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: What's the most challenging part about it? 338 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, Oh, the most challenging part about it. I 339 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: don't really look at anything that's challenging. It's weird. I 340 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: don't have a bad job. 341 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's not comparatively like when you look at what 342 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: it took for you to be the exceptional athlete, like 343 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: that was challenging. That's challenging. And then but there are 344 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: there are things. 345 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: Well, when I first yeah, when I first started, the 346 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: challenging thing was getting up the speed because I didn't 347 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: realize in the television world, for the most part, they 348 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: just throw you in the fire and you've got to 349 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: figure it out, and if you don't, they bring up 350 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: the next guy. So I like, what is the rundown 351 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: for a show? You know, this guy talking in my 352 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: ear while I'm trying to try what is he talking 353 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: about it. 354 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: That's my favorite part. That's my favorite part about hosting 355 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: or co hosting is when they're talking to you. You're 356 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: reading your notes and you're having to listen to the 357 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: to the person speaking. I love that. I love that 358 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: challenge more than anything. 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: It's like shutting off a part of your brain. You 360 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: got two thighs and you gotta use them both. 361 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: And I can bring a triple threat. 362 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get that every day at GMA, and and 363 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: that's what I love about. I love that challenge too. 364 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: It's weird we both love the same thing. And I 365 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: love like figuring things out and I love I love 366 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: live TV. And there's so many people who are terrified 367 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: for live TV that they go, I don't know how 368 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: you guys do this every day. I hate taping things because, 369 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: first of all, you could do it, I have to 370 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: do it over again. If you mess up, I'm like, oh, 371 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: forget it. Yeah, messing up is part of being human. 372 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: And I don't want to watch somebody or I think 373 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: it's on TV's perfect, because no one's perfect. I want 374 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: to watch somebody I can feel a connection with, the 375 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: comfortable that Okay, yeah they messed up that word, they 376 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: corrected it in the normal course of a conversation. But 377 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: they're human. 378 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: They're like me, talk to me about your company, Smack Entertainment. 379 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: That's just one more way in which you're an entrepreneur 380 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: and you start a new business and you pivot from 381 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: your sport to broadcast. Tell me about that company and 382 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: why you wanted to start it and what it is. 383 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, smack and Smack is interesting because I 384 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: retired from football thirty six years old, and I'm like, 385 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: either I can just sit and do nothing, or I 386 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: could try to figure out what the next step was. 387 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: And I did have a job with Fox doing the broadcasting. 388 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: And I also, you know, wanted to sell my kids, 389 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: like my youngest too. The twins were so young that 390 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: you can bark about working hard, and you can tell 391 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: your kids you've got to go out there, but if 392 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: they never see it from you, like you're the best 393 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: teacher they're ever going to have with you. They see 394 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: you every day. And so for my kids to see 395 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: me work hard, I think we're very important. And Smack 396 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: was started by Constance Schwartz, and I would go to 397 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 2: the office all the time and I would just bug her. 398 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: I retired, I living in La doing Fox Football. So 399 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: I had all this free time during the week and 400 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: I would go on the oft and bug her about 401 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: the other things she was working on, giving her all 402 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: this advice, and she finally said, after so many months 403 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: of that, I'm kind of sick of hearing you. So 404 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: if you're gonna come in, you need to either invest 405 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: in this thing and be a partner or don't come back. 406 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: And I joined her as a partner and that was been. 407 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: That's twelve years ago, and it has been the best 408 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: experience because it's allowed me to open up a different 409 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 2: side of my brain and a different muscle exercise. As 410 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: far as being an entrepreneur, and with Smack, we do 411 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: a variety of things. We know, we have a production company, 412 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: but we also do talent management to the Garcia Twins, 413 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: which is be the Bella Twin wrestlers, to Aaron. 414 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: Andrew wo I just did their podcast. 415 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we Carrissa, good luck with that. Hopefully, hopefully they 416 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: didn't get you into any trouble. 417 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: Not at all. It was kind of great. It was 418 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: it was just blue enough and it was still not 419 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: it was good. I felt, you know, I was worried 420 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: they were going to think like Oh whatever, she's not 421 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: cool or she's not you know, I'm like, look, I'm 422 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: from New York. So let's just start with that. 423 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: Those two are the best. Those two of my favorite people, 424 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: and they're perfect together the podcast because they're best friends 425 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: and they need to have the filter. And but but 426 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: but working with Aaron and her whereby EA line, and 427 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: of course we have myself being a client and an owner, 428 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: and my collection line at min'sware House and jac Penny 429 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: and my skincare. 430 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: Of my Good Care, right yeah, then we have. 431 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: Dion Sanders, we have Tony Gonzalez and Whiz Khalifa, so 432 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: we just you know, the whole management side of it's interesting, 433 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, to. 434 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Me, it's all it's such a beautiful challenge. My last 435 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: question for you is a very serious one. Oh boy, Nimes, 436 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: I like to end very very seriously. But what guest 437 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: makes you laugh the hardest? 438 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: Oh man I The one guest who came on who 439 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: made me laugh harder than anyone else was the last 440 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: time they were always one last, Tiffany Hattish. And the 441 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: reason that Tiffany Hattish made me laugh so hard is 442 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: she was all over George with ste Monopolis, with the jokes, 443 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: and she made George actually kind of dance. For George. 444 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: It was a dance I know it was. He refuses 445 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: to dance for me on GMA, we will all do 446 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: a little chimmy and George will sit there all stoic. Nope, 447 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: And I said, George, you're gonna dance. It goes never, Michael. 448 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: You know, So to watch Tiffany actually make George do 449 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: that and dance and laugh, and I don't know what 450 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: it is when he laughs, it really makes me. I 451 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: don't do it makes me happy because I know he's 452 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: got to trying to fight that laughter, but you get 453 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: it out of him. So Tiffany had his Dolly Parton 454 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: Dotlly Parton's actually another funny one and told me one 455 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: of the funniest things I've ever heard. When I asked 456 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: her one time, so, what's the first thing you do 457 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: when you wake up? She said, well, Michael, I put 458 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: on my clothes and I go home. 459 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: God whoa oh God. Well, my husband makes George laugh 460 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: so much. And when when he and his wife, when Chris, 461 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: my husband and Ali are together, George literally sits back 462 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: and just giggles and cackles, and it's like my heart 463 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: sort of explodes. I love it, but I gotta tell you, Laura, 464 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: you failed because that was a question for Alie Wentworth 465 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: by the way, she was like, ask you a question 466 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: and then say I asked them. 467 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm gonna back it up. But I'm back 468 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: it up. I didn't quite fail. 469 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: Back it up. 470 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: Ali gives me too. I get two things. Ali, by 471 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: far is one of the funniest people on the plane 472 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: plan and that's why I love watching George laugh because 473 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: I know George is not at home still working serious 474 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: because Ali it's the funniest person. I mean, seriously, she's 475 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: so funny. But she also makes me accept time go 476 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: because I know George inside is kind of like, I 477 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: don't know what's coming. So it's kind of an exciting 478 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: nervousness even for me. And I'm not even married to you. Ali. 479 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: Well, I remember I run the first time I called 480 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: emailed Ali and I was like, look, you don't know me, 481 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: but you have to write something for me. I have 482 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: to work with you, and you're gonna be my friend. 483 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: And she was really and we've been best friends ever since. 484 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: And when I if I can make her laugh, then 485 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm good in the world. I am 486 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: absolutely fine. 487 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: You've accomplished something. 488 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for spending this time with me 489 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: and for just for everything, always being so nice to me, 490 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: and I really like you a lot. 491 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: Well, are you kidding? Thank you? First of all, thank 492 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: you for having me on. I really appreciate it. And 493 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: when it comes to like pivoting and doing different things 494 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: in your life and career, I marvel at what you've 495 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: done and who you are, because you are the absolutely 496 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 2: nicest person out there. Like every time I see you, 497 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: it's just like a ray of sunshine, and you're one 498 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: of the people. When you walk in the room, people 499 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: get happy, and I think that that's a testament to 500 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: your character. So thank you for being you, Brooke, and 501 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: thank you for having me. 502 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: That was Michael Strahan. 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