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Speaker 1: Senners Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: load glasses Malone?
Speaker 3: Do where is everybody?
Speaker 1: H You should see your blind you can see all
Speaker 1: your blind marks on your screen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it's because the lights behind me
Speaker 4: or something. I don't know it's And then it's like
Speaker 4: when I move back and it focuses on me, like
Speaker 4: it kind of goes away.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I've been I've been trying to figure out about that
Speaker 4: for quite some time. Probably defaced this situation in a
Speaker 4: different direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm not mad at the idea that works.
Speaker 4: It's not another They also sell cotton candy there. Well,
Speaker 4: there's nothing really special about that. But what if you
Speaker 4: sold rock candy and it came in a little, you know, container,
Speaker 4: like like if you was, you know, buying a crack
Speaker 4: rock single.
Speaker 3: I like that a lot. M I Just the way
Speaker 3: I see it is like.
Speaker 1: If we're asking people to spend their money, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying on hip hop? I mean like in
Speaker 1: the eighties it was different, Like like the only way
Speaker 1: you can get street urban culture out of Compton, right
Speaker 1: was when NWA came to town. Yes, fast forward, you know,
Speaker 1: forty forty years. They just got so much access to it.
Speaker 1: So the concert is more about social currency than actual culture.
Speaker 1: I mean, just being the place that everybody says, this
Speaker 1: is the cool place to be. I've heard kids reference that. Now, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is where everybody was at. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: place to be, even if they didn't fit there.
Speaker 3: Like so, and that's.
Speaker 4: Like you see fans at concerts spend more time. Everyone's
Speaker 4: looking at their phone, filming the fact that they're there,
Speaker 4: and no one gives a flying fuck about the show.
Speaker 1: No, no, And you almost can't be mad because social
Speaker 1: media created this thought of it all. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying you You almost you can't be upset because
Speaker 1: it's like social media makes everybody a star in their
Speaker 1: own right. So if you're not making content that caters,
Speaker 1: if you're not making content that caters to to the
Speaker 1: audience so they can get engagement on their own posts,
Speaker 1: then they won't really share it with you. That's why
Speaker 1: a lot of the like the dance challenges are doing well.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, things that create engagement, Like
Speaker 1: people would just make shit up just to have a
Speaker 1: conversation going.
Speaker 3: They don't even give a damn if it's true.
Speaker 1: So I've been thinking about that as I'm about to
Speaker 1: start rolling out all of this new music and I've
Speaker 1: been passing it to all of my homeboys, from Kendrick
Speaker 1: to Problem to everybody. It's like, Yo, the experience needs
Speaker 1: to be very like you have to immerse yourself in
Speaker 1: that experience. You have to immerse yourself in it, you
Speaker 1: know, I mean you have to allow excuse me, other people
Speaker 1: to immerse themselves in that experience. So like, like this
Speaker 1: video I'm doing for this song I'm about to put out,
Speaker 1: it was an idea about a court case, right, Like
Speaker 1: I needed to make it real, Like I have to
Speaker 1: take it from just being entertainment and then making it
Speaker 1: real life.
Speaker 3: And it's a few different ways to make it real life. Right.
Speaker 1: But then so that's the video, right, But then you know,
Speaker 1: even setting it up that needs to work with the
Speaker 1: actual video, right, So the pre roll out to the
Speaker 1: actual single in the video being released, right, you have
Speaker 1: to set it up to where you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it caters to that it needs to be again, you
Speaker 1: have to make it to where people that want to
Speaker 1: support your shit can immerse themselves in it.
Speaker 3: And then even the.
Speaker 1: Posts Brod, I like, because this idea, like for this
Speaker 1: video is like about a court case. Like even the
Speaker 1: party I'm gonna do after or the live event I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do after is more or less like a party
Speaker 1: that's rooted in the same thing. Like it's all the way,
Speaker 1: it's all the way, and I think it needs to
Speaker 1: be all of the way. I mean, I think it
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Speaker 3: Shout out to the whole lunch table fast. What's the deal?
Speaker 1: No cut squish, Nick klip Monette, what's heading a tree?
Speaker 3: Watch that my low? Everybody down the arin?
Speaker 1: What's up? What's your definition of culture? I got you?
Speaker 1: Lex Derek's heading him? My definition of culture. Culture is
Speaker 1: just lifestyle, right, It's the way a group of people live.
Speaker 1: Culture is a lot more rooted in location than everything else.
Speaker 3: What up there? But that's the same conversation, right, It's like.
Speaker 1: People want the whole thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: They want the whole thing, Like.
Speaker 3: They want you to really entertain them.
Speaker 1: People are demanding, you know, they're demanding full experience for
Speaker 1: their money.
Speaker 3: So it's either whatever. It's either.
Speaker 1: Give us a full immersed like let allow us to
Speaker 1: immerse ourselves completely into this cultural thing that you that
Speaker 1: you're selling us whatever this perspective and culture is, or
Speaker 1: it's something that's gonna just benefit us, right where like
Speaker 1: somebody can post it on their Instagram and get comments
Speaker 1: and likes, because that's all it really is people want
Speaker 1: their own engagement. They don't just want to be a
Speaker 1: part of your engagement. Now they have to maintain their
Speaker 1: own platforms complete with their own engagement.
Speaker 3: So it's like you have to see it all the
Speaker 3: way through.
Speaker 4: You have to for the latter, and people like to,
Speaker 4: I think be part of either the first or the few.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's why I mean like there's a limited number of
Speaker 4: seats of a concert, That's why I think people posted
Speaker 4: they're there.
Speaker 3: If it was.
Speaker 4: The grocery store would be quite such an event, you know.
Speaker 4: And people like being the first endo a thing always well.
Speaker 1: So as an artist, I can't really speak for other
Speaker 1: artists for me, but as an artist, right, it's like
Speaker 1: a big thing to me is making sure people that
Speaker 1: support me look good or look relevant. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of the things I want to achieve as an artist
Speaker 1: is because I want people who support me to feel
Speaker 1: like their God got it all sure, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Like now, I don't know if that makes me unique.
Speaker 1: And I also have a hard time with using the
Speaker 1: word fan I don't think anybody's a fanatic of glasses alone.
Speaker 1: That just sounds asaline and I guess because I'm not
Speaker 1: a fanatic of somebody. I was telling Manny today, like
Speaker 1: we're talking about Kanye, and Kanye was talking. He was
Speaker 1: complaining because he felt like no blacks labs were speaking
Speaker 1: up on his behalf, you know, with his children, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, saying his children were being indoctrinated
Speaker 1: by this white woman and his culture and and nobody
Speaker 1: speaking up. And he said something to the effect at
Speaker 1: the end of the tweet was like, he said something
Speaker 1: to the effect of like, oh, well, I bet you
Speaker 1: people feel like I had this comment or I knew
Speaker 1: this was going to happen. And Manny was saying, how
Speaker 1: did he know this was going to happen? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: because the woman you were saying with your dream woman
Speaker 1: was already indoctrinated the same way like she she didn't
Speaker 1: really value morality, That wasn't her cornerstone of value, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Or whatever her morality is. You
Speaker 1: knew it was different than than how we grew up.
Speaker 1: You grew up anywhere like me. So it's like, what
Speaker 1: type of mother did you think Kim Kardashian was going
Speaker 1: to be? You know, did you not think that she
Speaker 1: was gonna have her kids online? No? Did you not
Speaker 1: think her kids were? And again, like I don't quite
Speaker 1: know everything. He knows that's their father, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, but you know what, which part of
Speaker 1: this is there's nothing that's happened so far that has
Speaker 1: left my expectations on the type of parent you know,
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian is you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't quite know, you know what I mean, Like, what
Speaker 1: exactly did you thought was gonna happen?
Speaker 3: And I don't And I don't know enough to see
Speaker 3: why he's.
Speaker 1: Complaining just yet, Like I think they posted a picture
Speaker 1: of his oldist. She was like, I think the auntie
Speaker 1: posted the picture and said, oh, you know, she looks grown.
Speaker 1: And it's like she didn't look grown. She looked like
Speaker 1: a little kid, you know, maybe with makeup on. But
Speaker 1: I mean, it's send him over the top. But that's
Speaker 1: why I think some of it is disingenuous, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's the thing about I like
Speaker 1: about the lunch table, Pete, and I like about talking
Speaker 1: to you, like, you know me pretty decent, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You have a good idea of who
Speaker 1: I am, and you know most of the things that
Speaker 1: I do are genuine, even if I'm not able to
Speaker 1: carry him out. When I'm saying it, I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to be able to do it. Or if I
Speaker 1: speak it, I really believe it, right, even if you
Speaker 1: had to correct me at times or give me more
Speaker 1: detail or anything, like, I genuinely believe it. So, no
Speaker 1: matter which platform, since I got into this business, ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the times, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, ninety nine point nine percent of the times,
Speaker 1: everything is genuine.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like I just genuinely think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of disingenuous thoughts to what he's saying. I think
Speaker 1: he's he does things to sway the general public to
Speaker 1: want to be on the side. It's like he again,
Speaker 1: he's a marketing savant, but sometimes you can see right
Speaker 1: through the dumb shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems kind of to me. I mean, just
Speaker 4: like your typical arsenal with a fire extinguisher.
Speaker 3: Arson with a fire extinguish it. That's funny.
Speaker 4: I mean he goes and starts fires and then comes
Speaker 4: down with a superman k pulls out the fire he started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't The scariest part is to believe
Speaker 1: he genuinely believes the shit he could be talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean, that scares the fuck out of me, Like,
Speaker 1: what if he really didn't believe this is the kind
Speaker 1: of mother she was going to be?
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean compared to what.
Speaker 3: M I don't know. I genuinely just don't know what
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: just don't quite know what he feels like. I don't know,
Speaker 1: And I guess that's what I didn't really care about
Speaker 1: the earliest albums is like I felt like they were
Speaker 1: just generic and straight through.
Speaker 3: I think they were. I think they.
Speaker 1: Were scientifically executed to matter to people.
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of Back then, he was more
Speaker 4: I feel like, preoccupied with the musical part, and then
Speaker 4: is kind of rapping so that he could be the
Speaker 4: guy with his name on the thing, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I don't think he was necessarily preoccupied that
Speaker 4: much with as he is now. I think he transitioned
Speaker 4: out of being like I'm going to showcase my ability
Speaker 4: to create music, and then I'm going to showcase my
Speaker 4: genius world perspective into manifestations in various ways and outputs,
Speaker 4: because it's not even it's about music much anymore, as
Speaker 4: so much as assists this avant garde outside the box thinking,
Speaker 4: you know, showcase he's perpetually involved in.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's the point, like flushing an idea
Speaker 1: genuinely in no so when I'm doing it, I almost
Speaker 1: have to be able to get into the character right.
Speaker 1: I almost have to be able to get into the
Speaker 1: character right, Like I'm stuck having to get into the character.
Speaker 1: So like being you know, on the dawn of probably
Speaker 1: like some of my greatest stuff in hip hop is
Speaker 1: like damn like I had to Not only I used.
Speaker 3: To always say an adhd shout out to Lex from
Speaker 3: that community, but.
Speaker 1: I used to always say, like hip hop is we.
Speaker 1: And I realized that in twenty fifteen. For sure, even
Speaker 1: before I completely understood what hip hop was at a
Speaker 1: basic level, I always knew it was we. But even
Speaker 1: now more in twenty twenty five, I understand the responsibilities
Speaker 1: more than ever. Of week I was, I did the
Speaker 1: community Monday with Pun and Ad and I was just
Speaker 1: telling them, like just talking to him and reinforcing to him,
Speaker 1: you know, like reinforcing to them like, man, this is
Speaker 1: your role.
Speaker 4: Same thing with.
Speaker 1: I was telling t Real. I'm like I was speaking
Speaker 1: to both of them. I'm like, this is your role.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, This is your role. This
Speaker 1: is your role. I mean, this is your like you
Speaker 1: have to. So I think that's why artists like Tupac
Speaker 1: is so Artists like Tupac are so great, Artists like Snoop,
Speaker 1: they represent a great movement, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And they understand we like ice Q to me, was
Speaker 1: supreme at understanding we. Sure, I mean years year, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he always understood week. So like
Speaker 1: taking this and then making it WE but then really
Speaker 1: embodying WE in every aspect culturally, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like that we And you know when I say culturally,
Speaker 1: I'm speaking specifically on street arimon culture from Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But then they do have connecting points.
Speaker 1: Right at at connect they do have connecting points, you know,
Speaker 1: ghet or to get it's certain things that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the same in the ghetto of Queens and the ghetto
Speaker 1: of Memphis is going to be certain things.
Speaker 3: Sure, So.
Speaker 1: I'm telling this tear from a man's perspective, How would
Speaker 1: you feel? How would I feel about what? Know, you're
Speaker 1: a man, how would you feel if you couldn't see her,
Speaker 1: have her say your kid's life? That would just never
Speaker 1: happen to me, Like that's the point of being an
Speaker 1: outlaw teer, Like that just wouldn't happen to me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I'd be in prison, That'd
Speaker 1: be the only way I would be away from my kids,
Speaker 1: or in the morgue, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's just not the Law's not gonna tell me how
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. That's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So it just depends on you know, what kind of
Speaker 1: person you are. So again I'm not here to judge.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you parents, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how she you know, mothers, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know how she parents.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like shit, again, he's bringing a private conversation publicly, you know,
Speaker 1: for you know, marketing branding himself.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like I don't quite know what's.
Speaker 1: Going on behind the scenes, and I have no idea,
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this much I looked at that
Speaker 1: picture and I didn't think much of it. I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't think much of it. Well, Ms Tea is
Speaker 1: not fair to say help, because my help was do
Speaker 1: not marry this poor ass woman. Don't marry this woman
Speaker 1: who is mora really low. I mean, that's the help.
Speaker 1: Once you do it, you got to help yourself, listen,
Speaker 1: Miss Tia. Like my mom, when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: I started to sell drugs, right, that was the thing.
Speaker 3: I sold drugs.
Speaker 1: My mom tried to hit me with her car. She
Speaker 1: busts my mouth wide open. She did everything in her
Speaker 1: power to make sure that I didn't sell drugs.
Speaker 3: My dad.
Speaker 1: I hid it from my dad every time I probably
Speaker 1: went to jail for selling PCP, probably somewhere six to
Speaker 1: eight times. You know what I'm saying, six to eight times, right.
Speaker 1: I've never called my mother or father from jail, never,
Speaker 1: not one time, because I knew they did not want
Speaker 1: me selling drugs. I knew they did not want me
Speaker 1: selling drugs. You can't cry wolf when everybody told you
Speaker 1: do not get with this woman. Every last person said,
Speaker 1: do not get with this woman. Even the reasons he
Speaker 1: wanted the woman were probably not great reasons to want
Speaker 1: a woman, even comparing him comparing the woman of his dreams,
Speaker 1: he said, to this white woman who was like morally
Speaker 1: all over the place and had a bunch of you know,
Speaker 1: rumors and gossip out on her, said that the things
Speaker 1: that was motivating him were just weird, Like why would
Speaker 1: you select the woman based off of those things? Did
Speaker 1: you see her sex tape? And you know with Ray
Speaker 1: jam was like, this is the right woman? You feel me?
Speaker 1: Did you like? What about Kim Kardashian pre you getting
Speaker 1: with her? May Cus think to himself, this is who
Speaker 1: I want to marry and have children with.
Speaker 4: I think that and of itself is like the Kanye
Speaker 4: experience in the microcosm. It is it's extremely narcissistic, and
Speaker 4: he doesn't understand clearly the separation between the idea of
Speaker 4: an image and the practical implementation of the idea behind
Speaker 4: it in real life.
Speaker 1: I would love to think what was the things going
Speaker 1: to his mind that made him look at her and said, man,
Speaker 1: this is the woman of my dreams.
Speaker 4: I don't think he thought about it like that. I
Speaker 4: think he thought this woman solidifies the image of my
Speaker 4: dreams for himself.
Speaker 1: See, but I don't even think that. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: one thing that and you know what, this is an
Speaker 1: issue I do have with the world. It's crazy. I
Speaker 1: was on the Sign of yesterday listening to rocket Man
Speaker 1: and just realize rocket Man.
Speaker 3: Is about drugs. Oh yeah, right, and.
Speaker 1: Where this is the scariest thing, right. Kanye represents this
Speaker 1: generation of people that genuinely are just motivated by things
Speaker 1: that the public say is cool, like the mainstream public, Like,
Speaker 1: it's no way you feel me.
Speaker 3: You look at you look at.
Speaker 1: Him and especially where she was at and thought to youself, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is the woman of my dreams. This is my wife.
Speaker 3: Like that's like if you saw a porn star.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Joe Yea. He was blinded by the
Speaker 3: money and fame.
Speaker 1: His father was a black panther, so it's no way
Speaker 1: he kept his morals and values from his parents. Wasn't blinded, bro,
Speaker 1: this was his thoughts before that. He said as a teenager,
Speaker 1: as a young young teenager, he had Marilyn Monroe posters
Speaker 1: on his wall. It's not money and fame blinding him.
Speaker 1: He liked her, But I think he liked her and
Speaker 1: wanted her for every wrong reason.
Speaker 3: That you want a woman.
Speaker 4: He wants to be an icon. He wants to be
Speaker 4: a icon. He's preoccupied with just pure how big and
Speaker 4: how bright can the star be and everything else. I
Speaker 4: don't think he realizes he has to live a daily
Speaker 4: life in between all those iconic moments.
Speaker 1: And that's where I think I give him the most
Speaker 1: credit as a as a talent. For me as a talent, right,
Speaker 1: It's like he understood what it took to get in position.
Speaker 1: He's one of the greater people to ever come through
Speaker 1: this space that we call hip hop and really know what.
Speaker 3: It takes to get there.
Speaker 1: Like he knew the type of woman that would make
Speaker 1: him more popular, he knew the type of music he
Speaker 1: needed to get black people behind him, he knew the
Speaker 1: things he needed to say. Everything about him is planned.
Speaker 1: He knew exactly what needed to happen.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at even from to take Marilyn Monroe's example,
Speaker 4: the two best baseball players of that era by far,
Speaker 4: Ted Williams, thank you about.
Speaker 1: The Snaka King. Know we've been working walking this whole time.
Speaker 1: He wait till the halftime show then just talking about
Speaker 1: bringing me into something else. That's what I've been saying though.
Speaker 3: Good leading.
Speaker 1: Huh, that's not something else you just asked, he what's happening?
Speaker 4: I like that strategic crescendo that you applied to.
Speaker 3: Fuckhole.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm late, you guys. You know he ain't
Speaker 1: sorry late. He was in here the whole time. Yeah business,
Speaker 1: But instead he was like, I ain't gona miss it.
Speaker 1: I'm just pop in when I want to pop in.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: Thas man looking sharp though, look at me as a
Speaker 3: bad picture, don't they?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: It's terrible.
Speaker 4: But I think fifty sixty years later, how much more
Speaker 4: iconic is Joe demag Jo than Ted Williams for baseball
Speaker 4: players that are virtually eye to eye, And the difference
Speaker 4: was one of them was tied up with Marion Morroe.
Speaker 3: Thebauchery. Yeah no again.
Speaker 1: I think these are the conversations about, you know where
Speaker 1: kind of culture keeps you grounded. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think these are the things that keep you grounded.
Speaker 1: The street irving culture keeps you grounded because it's no
Speaker 1: way possible you was thinking about that when you decided
Speaker 1: to when Couz decided to turn that woman into a housewife,
Speaker 1: that is none of nothing about being black nothing about
Speaker 1: street irving culture. Nothing about that for me, has anything.
Speaker 1: I think he understood what it takes, like you said,
Speaker 1: to be a pop icon, and he knew that the
Speaker 1: pop icons that he really looked up to, this is
Speaker 1: the way they did their things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he comes off the magnitudinal spike and transition of
Speaker 4: you know, pre and posts Beyonce, jay Z and he
Speaker 4: probably got a little over el I'm gonna find the
Speaker 4: next most famous chicken. She's gonna be even more I
Speaker 4: wanna say, controversialists, but like more, you know, conversationally.
Speaker 1: Shout out to d and the Shah Man was love
Speaker 1: chump Dog. What up y'all told us to deal?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again, Like I said, I think I believe in hip
Speaker 1: hop in another way than most people, even some of
Speaker 1: the greater and more successful talents that have came through.
Speaker 1: I think I believe in it in a different way.
Speaker 1: I think I genuinely believe in street urban culture in
Speaker 1: a much more unique way way. And I think some
Speaker 1: people it's funny because we talked about post Malone.
Speaker 3: We talked about that and not.
Speaker 1: Just sad baby the dude, you're wrong, you sign that
Speaker 1: song of fisetto because we talked about people who use
Speaker 1: hip hop to move their themselves into these gigantic pop spaces.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, you know what I'm saying, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: You said you use hip hop like a stepping stone. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's very clearly what we're dealing with in
Speaker 4: this case.
Speaker 1: So now, but no, he trying to kick the stepping
Speaker 1: stone over so nobody else can step on it.
Speaker 3: That's what I don't like. That's what bothers me.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'll be investing in it, don't wait till
Speaker 1: you that made your business. Now, the next generation of kids,
Speaker 1: you don't want them to invest in Nation struggle because
Speaker 1: you for sure ain't signing nothing from the street.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 1: You ain't signing nothing from the street. Cause not signing
Speaker 1: nothing from the street. He not signing nothing like that.
Speaker 1: The closest he got to signing something from the street,
Speaker 1: Cauz was like push your tea and pushing t was
Speaker 1: already a platinum BAC at that point, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Which I don't know. But it's funny because
Speaker 1: he's been complaining this whole time about the kind of
Speaker 1: people around, and it's like, you got a bunch of
Speaker 1: people around that's just like you. Yeah, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like itself. That's why you really don't like hisself. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm starting to believe, very true. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's what.
Speaker 3: I'm starting to believe.
Speaker 1: My late topics is Okay, Yeah, I think it's no consideration.
Speaker 4: You deprived the audience of twenty six minutes of this insight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, huh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, anyway, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. He
Speaker 1: was talking so much shit about people, but I mean,
Speaker 1: this conversation wasn't really about ya.
Speaker 3: It just went there based off of that.
Speaker 1: But the point I was saying initially before we made
Speaker 1: this right turn down this dark alley, is that's what
Speaker 1: I do think works for him as as a as
Speaker 1: a brand. He goes all the way through that motherfucker
Speaker 1: does not stop. I think it only works for us
Speaker 1: because as a black hip hop culture, we just say
Speaker 1: we don't give a fuck no more. Whatever he do
Speaker 1: he do, we don't go up against him. We just
Speaker 1: be like, whatever, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: But that's but that's how outside of maybe somebody punching
Speaker 1: him in the face and him having a squabble as friends.
Speaker 1: That's really the only thing it should We shouldn't be
Speaker 1: trying to silence him. We shouldn't try to silence an artist.
Speaker 1: But that's why I said, that's why it works for him.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if that's why I don't
Speaker 1: think this is I don't know. I think if we
Speaker 1: try to silence him, it'll just be an explosure or
Speaker 1: implosion with him. But since we don't, he just freed.
Speaker 1: Just like a firecracker, he just blasting where he won't well,
Speaker 1: I think he should be able to m That's why
Speaker 1: I said it works for him. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I think if you came from the culture and tried
Speaker 1: to do what he do, it wouldn't work. But the
Speaker 1: culture will step up and really have some words because
Speaker 1: you come from the culture. He come from the street
Speaker 1: urban culture. Since he doesn't. That's the difference. That's why
Speaker 1: it works. Would be tripping about him.
Speaker 3: That's why it works for him.
Speaker 1: It's funny, No culd, I have no cured like shout
Speaker 1: out to the homie No culd that Nigga said, I'm crying,
Speaker 1: he said, g to your point, we yeay might be
Speaker 1: the most me fan me first man in hip hop history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. Shout out the dog walk. Why
Speaker 1: does he need violence on him?
Speaker 4: Not?
Speaker 3: Y'all gotta stop thinking a fight is violent.
Speaker 1: That's that scares me sometimes about this new age of thought,
Speaker 1: like fight don't always mean violentce somebody need to kick
Speaker 1: your ass.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you need to be disciplined.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you need to know there's consequences that can come
Speaker 1: with offending people. What happened with violence? Yeah, it's like love.
Speaker 1: I get it is violence and is really laming dictionary.
Speaker 1: But culturally speaking, everything is not just violence. Violence is
Speaker 1: going too far. That ship is like a discipline.
Speaker 4: That's that's my issue with like that. We're in a
Speaker 4: generation where we're on the other side of established case law,
Speaker 4: you know. So like like my dad's generation talks about
Speaker 4: getting fights into Yeah, you could get in the scuffle.
Speaker 1: Joe, that's not years ago. Now. Fight does not lead
Speaker 1: to lead all, dearity, where do y'all come from?
Speaker 3: No, it don't either.
Speaker 1: Y'all haven't been in the fights that y'all talking about
Speaker 1: places y'all not familiar with.
Speaker 3: Every fight does not lead in the lead.
Speaker 1: The community ain't into that disposition, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that it's not.
Speaker 4: Just statistically true. I mean like the number of Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's way more for yourselves versus number of severe assaults
Speaker 4: or not one to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not close. It's not every fight leads to it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta just y'all gotta stop being so fucking
Speaker 1: scary and so timid. Every fight doesn't lead to that.
Speaker 1: I think that's Kanye's biggest problem is nobody punched him.
Speaker 3: In his fucking mouth.
Speaker 1: Like he can say anything, He can say what he
Speaker 1: wants about this person. The reason I don't just say
Speaker 1: anything I want to say is because I have to
Speaker 1: decide if this is worth defending, like which level it's like,
Speaker 1: it's okay he can't say what he want to say
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be against the law. But that don't
Speaker 1: mean no body jay Z should punch him in his
Speaker 1: fucking face. That's really what should happened. Don't fuck his money,
Speaker 1: whoop his ass? He need ass whooping. A ass whooping
Speaker 1: might really set him back straight. Yeah, but he might
Speaker 1: turn around sue for sure, you got right. You need
Speaker 1: a poor motherfucker hit him in his face.
Speaker 3: He might soon shout out the dibord bag photography.
Speaker 1: I've learned a lie from getting punched me too, and
Speaker 1: and and that's it's one of the greatest teachers. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But y'all gotta stop. But and
Speaker 1: and and dog walk forgive me dog I know you disagree,
Speaker 1: but this is sometimes why, like I have to know
Speaker 1: what's better and not listen to y'all. Y'all, y'all are
Speaker 1: way too scary and ridiculous. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: When it comes to some things that humans need, you
Speaker 1: can't just say what you want to say and don't
Speaker 1: think you go get your ass whipped. That's okay, It's okay.
Speaker 1: Somebody should whip Kanye as that's the one thing street
Speaker 1: urban culture should agree with all of us say. Kanye
Speaker 1: needs to get his ass whooped. That's okay. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we need to let people jump on him. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying we need to five or six of them
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm not saying you're scary dogs. I'm saying
Speaker 1: scared of something happening to him. He'll be okay. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like, that's how you really decide how
Speaker 1: you're going to proceed when you know the consequence that
Speaker 1: comes with it. Right, now Kanye does all of this,
Speaker 1: it feels like, Okay, I have money, there's no consequence, right.
Speaker 1: And it started simple. He started defending the people that
Speaker 1: gave him the money.
Speaker 4: Right, And a lot of this does reek of femininity
Speaker 4: in the way that it's being presented and all of that,
Speaker 4: and that does have to do with a life of consequences.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Joe ge. Tupac thought he could just
Speaker 1: throw hands as well.
Speaker 3: You know the result.
Speaker 1: No, Tupac and friends beat the ship. Seven people beat
Speaker 1: the ship out of somebody. They was lining him up
Speaker 1: with kicks in the face. If that man would have
Speaker 1: went over there and started a fight and they fought
Speaker 1: head up, he wouldn't have shot his motherfucking ass. But
Speaker 1: that's different though, He's not different. No, he started off
Speaker 1: saying that Tupac had hands. We're not saying Kanye got hands. No,
Speaker 1: he said he could just throw hands as well.
Speaker 5: No, get out of him participation that, but that he's
Speaker 5: talking about the specific incident that that that's.
Speaker 3: Responsible for him dying.
Speaker 1: It was nine people that kicked the ship out of
Speaker 1: him with hard bottomed shoes walking through a fucking casino yeah,
Speaker 1: them niggas was getting shot.
Speaker 3: They okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Phanto, what's up, hey boy, welcome back
Speaker 1: to the nuns table. There are people who get punched
Speaker 1: on the end up with brain damage. It's a tight rope, glasses,
Speaker 1: It's okay, but you should know that.
Speaker 4: This is the point.
Speaker 1: Yes, you could before you were talking, this would happens.
Speaker 1: It gets your ass, will.
Speaker 4: Suck the consequences out of the room.
Speaker 1: Shut out to I am miss Tia. It's not scary.
Speaker 1: You can't just punch on grown people and think nothing
Speaker 1: coming after that. Miss ta out and punched on a
Speaker 1: lot of grown people and if some come behind it,
Speaker 1: that's fine too, But you can't be that.
Speaker 4: All that aside from a cost benefit of analysis in
Speaker 4: the macro, there needs to be a consciousness of the
Speaker 4: risk that your own behavior has no you know, responsibility
Speaker 4: to to to your own to to the people that
Speaker 4: you're behaving at, you know what I mean. Like the
Speaker 4: few times where somebody might come back and do something
Speaker 4: that cost is outweighed in my opinion, by the complete
Speaker 4: and total disregard for personal conduct now that people have
Speaker 4: because they know the cost is So that's my issue
Speaker 4: with like, you know, if you clock somebody at a bar,
Speaker 4: now you're probably getting arrested. You probably gotta you know,
Speaker 4: you might get sue all the rest of it. The
Speaker 4: cost of intervening on something that used to be a
Speaker 4: low cost, it's not very high cost. So not the
Speaker 4: only people that do get into fights are fucking maniacs.
Speaker 3: So no, I disagree that they have to be maniacs.
Speaker 4: I'm just listening the one percent of people that are
Speaker 4: willing to take on that cost. I say you're a maniac.
Speaker 4: It's like a relative to like it used to be,
Speaker 4: fifty percent of people might be willing to do something,
Speaker 4: Now one percent are because you know, I'm gonna get suit,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to jail. Most people don't want to
Speaker 4: do that. So to say I don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: suit going to jail, it's a very narrow strip of
Speaker 4: the population that.
Speaker 1: The economics has to play with. That shout out to KWA.
Speaker 1: Majority of folks give yill. Now, that's why nobody fights.
Speaker 1: Didn't go right to gun play. It's way more fights
Speaker 1: than y'all think it's happening. I think those be those
Speaker 1: kind of reckless talking points because you looking online, I
Speaker 1: see fights all the time. I rarely see shooting. I
Speaker 1: see fighting. I see fights down there once a month. Somehow,
Speaker 1: you don't really see shooting, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's not as often as you think. And I think
Speaker 1: that's his issue. I think Kanye or not just him,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of rappers who be jawjacking. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who be jaw jacking and don't
Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to be accountable for what
Speaker 1: they saying. You gotta say what you want to say.
Speaker 1: Like one thing I pride myself in, I'll say what
Speaker 1: I want to say about a motherfucking be right in
Speaker 1: the room with that motherfucker. But that's also why, like
Speaker 1: I said, when I was arguing with Coach a couple
Speaker 1: of streams agoing, I was telling him there is nothing
Speaker 1: that I said that I wouldn't say to Drake. Now again,
Speaker 1: that's not I'm saying like I wouldn't. I never called
Speaker 1: the man out his name on Twitter like I ain't.
Speaker 1: Never was like a bitch ass nigga. Never If I say, man,
Speaker 1: that's some sucking shit, you going to the legal system,
Speaker 1: cause the nigga, dish you and you sewing. I was
Speaker 1: tell him that to his face. If I say, man,
Speaker 1: you lost that battle, you got smoke, nigga, he's a
Speaker 1: dead aut. I would say that to his face. If
Speaker 1: I say whatever I'm saying, I would say it to
Speaker 1: his face. And this is a nigga that's okay with fighting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's that's with fighting. I
Speaker 1: still just don't go around saying shit because I can.
Speaker 1: I don't go around back when he's a bitch ass nigga, ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't do all that. If I think you're a
Speaker 1: bitch ass nigga, I'm just gonna fire on you in
Speaker 1: that way show you. I'm not finna call you out
Speaker 1: your name. I just don't talk like that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: fight if that's the case. So that's what I'm telling Coach.
Speaker 1: I know when it is disrespect because, like you said,
Speaker 1: I would have no problem if if if somebody came
Speaker 1: on this No Salious podcast telling them exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean talking what exactly I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: saying exactly what I'm saying, like all read all my tweets,
Speaker 1: like anything I ever said about a rapper or Drake
Speaker 1: or anybody else. I said to them right there, I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be a fight. Now, that's not
Speaker 1: to say that person couldn't get upset and so in person,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not. But I don't want it to
Speaker 1: not say it's not a fight because he's some kind
Speaker 1: of not he's that nigga's a man. So I'm saying
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel like I offended him. And if he'd
Speaker 1: be like, man, I didn't get smoked, Like that's a
Speaker 1: difference of opinion. If he say, man, gee, you putting
Speaker 1: up dead ass. Man, I'm teasing your fans. Y'all lost
Speaker 1: a battle. He know what I'm doing, because know what's
Speaker 1: up with me. But again, it's like, even if I'm
Speaker 1: explaining to him why he's not hip hop, are you
Speaker 1: gonna he want to fight me over that? Nigga? You
Speaker 1: disrespect me?
Speaker 3: You saying I'm not hip hop?
Speaker 1: Fuck No, I don't give two fus about that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll fight anybody over anything. I think
Speaker 1: you have to turn into something else of disrespect. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he would fight motherfucker over disrespect me. He a man,
Speaker 1: got a Penish. So I'm sure he'll fight a man
Speaker 1: over disrespected him. But I'm saying that's what I'm telling, coach.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I haven't because I'm the type of person
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say something like when I'm saying that Kanye.
Speaker 1: Even Kanye is a little bit more heightened specifically, but
Speaker 1: I still wouldn't. I don't think there's nothing I said
Speaker 1: because period, you feel me that I wouldn't say to him,
Speaker 1: I would cuts him out.
Speaker 3: We probably I actually want to fight.
Speaker 1: I actually would want to fight him because you know
Speaker 1: why how somebody you support so much and they just
Speaker 1: hurting your feelings here, coach, if you listen here about
Speaker 1: to fall off the fence to fight. No, for sure,
Speaker 1: I want to fight Kanye. Yeah. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt Kanye, not like I want to put him in
Speaker 1: the hospital, Like I don't want to destroying, but I
Speaker 1: really want to punch him, like beat his ass for
Speaker 1: tough love. Yeah, like you got us look at crazy
Speaker 1: and stuff. What is you doing? Why are you doing
Speaker 1: this shit?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Stop being so fucking selfish because think about us, Think
Speaker 1: about tie, cause you got tied over there. You know,
Speaker 1: these people writing his checks why would you do that?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He being a bad homie.
Speaker 1: He go out to everybody every day, go out to
Speaker 1: somebody sick, and it's like, you feel me, like, cuz,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Where's the weed? How is this about you?
Speaker 1: Cause you are fucking Kanye Wes Cuz fuck you already
Speaker 1: got you you out of shoe as popular as Geordan
Speaker 1: because you can't even wo fuck nigga shit, that's funny,
Speaker 1: Like fuck man, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: would want to fight him because he's in my top
Speaker 1: five cousin. I love this nigga. I would want to
Speaker 1: punch his ass, you know what I mean? I would.
Speaker 1: You know that hurts my feelings, but not like I'm
Speaker 1: mad I want to hurt him, But I really want
Speaker 1: to punch cuz it shot out the dog walker. He
Speaker 1: don't owe nobody nothing really, that's true. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like he owe me dog and that may not
Speaker 1: be right. This is the emotional side of it, and
Speaker 1: I could admit it so just so you can notice
Speaker 1: the difference. This is the emotional side. I disagree with
Speaker 1: all that he has gotten in life. He owes something
Speaker 1: it may not need nothing, Yeah, but he owes society something, appreciation,
Speaker 1: you know, beating something, all that. I mean, owe something,
Speaker 1: even if you respect them people in real life. He
Speaker 1: doesn't owe anybody anything, but neither do I. I don't
Speaker 1: owe you nothing but these fucking hands, you motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Why no, I will respect until you disrespect me.
Speaker 1: I just really want to punch. Like we could just
Speaker 1: take a little squab in the backyard, like even he
Speaker 1: might win. You never know, like we be talking shit,
Speaker 1: put hands on the nigga, But at least I feel
Speaker 1: better about the ship you talking.
Speaker 3: I need to see because I need to see.
Speaker 1: You gotta show me, bro, you talking way too high power,
Speaker 1: because you gotta.
Speaker 3: Show me we're trapad for this one.
Speaker 1: No ready, man, that nigga got show me cause you
Speaker 1: talking way too high power. There's way too many bitch
Speaker 1: ass niggas coming out your wealth punk ass niggas, all
Speaker 1: this coming out your mouth. Cuz I need to see.
Speaker 3: We're going to Japan next week, Pete.
Speaker 1: See. Yeah, I need to see because I need to see.
Speaker 1: I need to see. I need to see because I
Speaker 1: need to know you better handle yourself because all this
Speaker 1: high power shit, you jaw jackie, Because I need to
Speaker 1: see show me. Can we step out here, because I
Speaker 1: got about ninety seconds for you, because real quick, that's
Speaker 1: all I need to get. Because once I get the
Speaker 1: ninety seconds, then I'm gonna know right off the rip.
Speaker 1: Gim me right off the back, like like the Homi
Speaker 1: four extras just came home, right off the back, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know right where you at with it. I
Speaker 1: need to know where you at with it because if
Speaker 1: I still don't, cuz he like, why did you do that?
Speaker 3: Ah? I quit? This is gonna be on TMZ that
Speaker 3: you put an offer out the fighting.
Speaker 1: I definitely want to fight. Yeah, I say this is
Speaker 1: gonna be on my other fucking feelings. You got me
Speaker 1: looking crazy and bought all these goddamn CDs to spend money,
Speaker 1: your motherfucking acts up here making us look crazy, and
Speaker 1: ship wear this fucking kool club clan out talking about
Speaker 1: you pissing.
Speaker 3: Off these people the whole fucking minute of some time.
Speaker 1: You just talk bad about different black people wearing a
Speaker 1: ku Cluz clan outfit. Yeah, I need the slide cut
Speaker 1: tip tips for cut hands and tips.
Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3: Don't hit him in the jar man, I'm for sure.
Speaker 1: No I just slapped that job. You know, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna slap him slap like I slap him in a
Speaker 1: bad jall come, but like I wouldn't try to because
Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt him as much as I
Speaker 1: want him to know. You need to say this knowing kind.
Speaker 1: They don't just go from zero to death because he
Speaker 1: talking about some and and don't try to send your
Speaker 1: goons to kill me. No, they need to send one.
Speaker 3: Person to whoop your fucking ass.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You ain't said that. And the
Speaker 1: thing when that cool clus pointing at the camera talk
Speaker 1: on some you know, don't try to send nobody to
Speaker 1: kill me.
Speaker 3: He really think he liked that? Huh man?
Speaker 1: I swear to God and he might be and I
Speaker 1: just don't know fee me. But what I am saying
Speaker 1: is I need to see. That's the one thing about
Speaker 1: l A Street ever culture. When I first came out
Speaker 1: rapping niggas was like, yeah, glasses, niggas had to see
Speaker 1: niggas found out real fast. It's gonna go that way
Speaker 1: every time. I'm okay with that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But a fight ain't gonna hurt that nigga. Man, and
Speaker 1: I agree you right, it's a simple fight. And and
Speaker 1: and it be at least a fame with a nigga
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna try to really hurt him. If it's me,
Speaker 1: I'm not really gonna try to hurt him. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna punch him cuz what you out here doing? Like
Speaker 1: and if he do any of that, oh man, well
Speaker 1: why is we fighting? Cuz that's why you shouldn't be talking.
Speaker 1: See that that changes it now when you gonna talk
Speaker 1: to him hitting him, that's how I fight, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's a different level of a fight. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how I fight. I don't fight, man, I don't fight mad.
Speaker 1: I don't get mad. I'm not finna do all that.
Speaker 1: Some people could take that, you know, and talking down
Speaker 1: disrespect you, I'm not. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: explaining him why why would you marry this bitch? And
Speaker 1: now you mad at us?
Speaker 3: Oh, he ain't gonna call your shots?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about Mohammad Ali.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I'm just telling this motherfucker as you
Speaker 1: got us out here looking bad, because you need to
Speaker 1: stop doing this so punk ass ship. Then if he
Speaker 1: talks ship. I don't got nothing else to say, because
Speaker 1: at this point, you took some punches to be able
Speaker 1: to say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he didn't take your good shots though.
Speaker 1: No no, but because I wouldn't hear kinde past then no,
Speaker 1: no task because he gonna feel everything I throw. But
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know what, and it's not fair.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like he olways to represent her
Speaker 1: that they're going for hip hop culture.
Speaker 3: Who his ass?
Speaker 1: That's how we got whoopings in syllable. Oh god.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 1: Not to do this shit, mother fuck up.
Speaker 3: Fact.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I think that's all
Speaker 1: you need. You know what I'm saying, like not to
Speaker 1: hurting nobody. Shit. I don't want nobody to hurt Kanye
Speaker 1: bro like and I know a lot of people that
Speaker 1: get mad at me. Bro.
Speaker 3: I don't even want him to be in a hospital.
Speaker 3: You feel me, I agree that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Dad, Dan said, I'm projecting my personal feelings.
Speaker 1: I think I feel like this for all of hip hop. Dn.
Speaker 1: I think me and hip hop are in agreement that
Speaker 1: this is how we feel. He said, for sure, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But now I was saying this
Speaker 1: to say that. I think culturally we have to take
Speaker 1: the whole that's the whole thing. I think people want
Speaker 1: a full experience, and I think you know the people
Speaker 1: out there that the public endears themselves to our people
Speaker 1: at this point that are looking to give them a
Speaker 1: full experience. Now, once you get to the top of
Speaker 1: the mountain is different. But until you get to the
Speaker 1: top of the mountain, they'll take a full experience without
Speaker 1: even people that's good at making music the longest it's experienced,
Speaker 1: people supporting it. Long as they believe you about the
Speaker 1: shit you say you about, they gonna support you. They
Speaker 1: don't even Like I was telling Coach that day, he
Speaker 1: was telling me, like post the fuckers don't know what's
Speaker 1: good music. Who the fuck got tied to know you work?
Speaker 1: If a motherfucker work as a fucking pharmacist, what the
Speaker 1: fuck do you know about music? All he know is
Speaker 1: what he like or don't like. And that could be
Speaker 1: a bunch of messages shout out to Don dub name
Speaker 1: another free black billionaire that never compromised to get to
Speaker 1: that level.
Speaker 3: That's calling out the bullshit.
Speaker 1: He what do you mean he didn't he of course
Speaker 1: he compromised he talking about the people that paid him,
Speaker 1: everybody that paid him, Don, that would be the compromise
Speaker 1: he was. He was them people favorite friend until his
Speaker 1: deal was up. What do you mean, what do you
Speaker 1: mean shout out to Dan? I didn't say that Dan.
Speaker 1: I can't jump that way. But I think because he
Speaker 1: acts like he is, he should be in trouble. Of
Speaker 1: course he compromised Dan. That's the biggest Don, that's the
Speaker 1: biggest problem. That's my whole issue is the Wait a minute, nigga,
Speaker 1: You was these niggas favorite partner in the world. You
Speaker 1: love these niggas. You never said none of this shit
Speaker 1: when you were signed to the label. You were signed
Speaker 1: to these people for He was signing UMG through death
Speaker 1: Jam for years, since two thousand and three, all the
Speaker 1: way to twenty twenty one. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: He did it deal with the data's knowing who they was.
Speaker 1: He did it deal with everybody knowing who they was.
Speaker 3: But he said name of Vin here. That didn't compromise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, name another free Byron Allen. Again, everybody is gonna
Speaker 1: have to do business Byron Allen with.
Speaker 4: Other people if they were to made a found Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, he's doing the Weather State. He owns the weather
Speaker 1: He's the comedian, the black that's comedian. He about the
Speaker 1: weather station's fighting with cable TV because they won't to
Speaker 1: let them get some stations.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, He's fighting them guys right now Byron Allen.
Speaker 1: It's called being fake in industry. But look, I get
Speaker 1: it that now. I don't know y'all know how many
Speaker 1: records you had. I don't know how many people in
Speaker 1: this industry. Is your friend as somebody who've been in
Speaker 1: this industry even now, you know, probably on the verge
Speaker 1: of doing another deal right all this. Look, these people
Speaker 1: are transparent. All these people transparent. You know who they are?
Speaker 1: Even all these people names that y'all starting to hear, Lucian,
Speaker 1: The people ain't really They're not like these people that
Speaker 1: you think they are. Don't let the type of social
Speaker 1: media fool you.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: These are some people sitting back and all these niggas
Speaker 1: was friends, all these people's friends, and it wasn't like
Speaker 1: they did something. All these people do the same thing.
Speaker 1: None of these people fake. Stunner Man ain't fake, Lucier
Speaker 1: not fake, Elliot not fake. None of these people fake.
Speaker 1: None of these people fake. None of these people fake.
Speaker 1: All these people regular real people. You know, me and
Speaker 1: you in business with him, So it's not like Kanye
Speaker 1: played a role to get somewhere. That's who Kanye is.
Speaker 1: He looked up into him until he thought he had
Speaker 1: as much money to him, and then he still look
Speaker 1: up to him. He's just mad right now. You don't
Speaker 1: got a record deal. He ain't said one of these
Speaker 1: things when he had a record deal. That has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with fake. I mean, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's faked for turning on the people he
Speaker 1: made money with.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: I think they just spent a lot of time gassing
Speaker 1: people up and just making people get behind bullshit ass movements.
Speaker 1: That's certain, you know what I'm saying. I just I
Speaker 1: think alvanized. I think they understand how to galvanize the public, right,
Speaker 1: they know how to more mobilize people. And then he
Speaker 1: don't really have a real plfe that's the problem. He
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a real life.
Speaker 4: He does.
Speaker 1: Real play.
Speaker 4: His real plight is the fact that he can't handle
Speaker 4: being himself inside of his own head.
Speaker 1: Hold on Don Dave, so a nigga can't look behind
Speaker 1: the curtain and change his strategy. Yes, shut out to
Speaker 1: byron Ella. Don he been behind the curtain since two
Speaker 1: thousand and four. He didn't say nothing until he wasn't
Speaker 1: behind the curtains in twenty twenty two. Don, you're not
Speaker 1: being honored, You're not like you know what, I get it.
Speaker 1: Nigga genuinely want to be down with that dude, Like
Speaker 1: he's a brilliant man. He in my top five. Shit,
Speaker 1: I can't order, I can't say shit. But also I
Speaker 1: ain't going for the bushit. You can still be in
Speaker 1: my top five. And I talked shit about his motherfucking
Speaker 1: dog ass Fuck that nigga, you bush it. Hell no,
Speaker 1: you didn't look behind the curtains and change. He didn't
Speaker 1: change no strategy. He just mad. This is the best thing. See,
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do all this shit when he
Speaker 1: was signed to the money. When he was signed to
Speaker 1: the to the machine. The machine got enough money to
Speaker 1: put you everywhere at once, let alone a nigga like
Speaker 1: him doing some dope ass shit. They could put you
Speaker 1: everywhere at once, and then you could exposed some dope
Speaker 1: ass shit. You know what I'm saying. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he understands this is the only
Speaker 1: way to get the same type of press. And really,
Speaker 1: in this really crazy way, he's really showing you the
Speaker 1: power that you could have as an independent artist.
Speaker 4: That's kind of right. I was about to sales, like,
Speaker 4: is it that or is it that he isn't at
Speaker 4: risk of, you know, getting a contract canceled, so now
Speaker 4: he can say that for he wants.
Speaker 1: What's funny is it's like he never looked behind the curtains.
Speaker 1: He didn't see what is it? What would he be
Speaker 1: mad at? What could a dude be mad at? What
Speaker 1: could you I was signed to a label again, this
Speaker 1: is this would be my third or fourth record deal?
Speaker 1: What the fuck could you be mad at? What could
Speaker 1: you if you're a real hustler, bro, what the fuck
Speaker 1: could you be mad at somebody else? Spending all that
Speaker 1: money they give you twenty five percent?
Speaker 4: I mean he doesn't perceive risk appropriately.
Speaker 1: Like percent.
Speaker 3: You don't spend a dime, you go ten million to
Speaker 3: do what you want to do. I like to know
Speaker 3: the risk be of that deal.
Speaker 4: The risk is you don't know if his product is
Speaker 4: going to make more money than it's worth you or
Speaker 4: not as the money holder, and then when it does,
Speaker 4: he thinks I got screwed because he doesn't understand before
Speaker 4: it's been determined that it's worth it or it isn't,
Speaker 4: there is risk, and risk has a premium price.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, especially because of record contracts. You're right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even shoe contracts. How, I mean how
Speaker 4: these shoes had this guy sold?
Speaker 1: You know, shout out, he's a lame. He's the only
Speaker 1: child Sybil. Shout out to be bra. He said this music.
Speaker 1: He's about controversy, you know what. Yes, but he's a
Speaker 1: marketing savant, but he's not grounded. He's not rooted in
Speaker 1: street ur been coaching. And that's the thing where it's
Speaker 1: like you will throw us under the bus. God damn
Speaker 1: oh y'all being mad if I wear this Nazi shirt,
Speaker 1: But if y'all talk about fighting and shooting each other, nigga,
Speaker 1: that is not what the Nazis did. The Bloods do
Speaker 1: not do what the Nazis did. I get that. That's
Speaker 1: a lazy take. Yes, people die at the hands, but
Speaker 1: one group of individuals are in a fight, and.
Speaker 4: I hate that he you know where it's where he's
Speaker 4: missing it. It's like the Nazis on their eastern front
Speaker 4: fighting the Russians out of the concentration camp, in which
Speaker 4: case none, They're just any other combatant.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, Crazy shout out to be crazy.
Speaker 1: He said he hates his own He always have. Charlamagne
Speaker 1: said the same. He's been telling me that for years. Crazy,
Speaker 1: and I fought him, and I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe I'm saying Kanye West is like George Bush,
Speaker 1: but I think he really does hate George.
Speaker 3: George Bush was genuinely like what the fuck? George Bush
Speaker 3: look hurt the first one, the second one.
Speaker 1: The second one, he looked genuinely hurt when he was
Speaker 1: like I remember seeing his face and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's real.
Speaker 4: I've heard from from people like that, are you know,
Speaker 4: like think tankers that are way inside of his zone
Speaker 4: that he was really bothered by that, Like personally.
Speaker 1: If you saw his face, he was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I think this motherfucker wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Have this you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So Kanye West on a telethon where he was raising
Speaker 1: money with Michael Myers, the actor, and they were talking
Speaker 1: about Katrina.
Speaker 4: This is around Katrina powers.
Speaker 1: Michael Myers, Yeah, I think that's h and Kanye was like,
Speaker 1: George Bush doesn't care about black people, and it was
Speaker 1: like I remember thinking, like, damn, that was some solid ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. George Bush ain't helping obviously,
Speaker 1: I don't know about politics. Yeah, so it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of politics and how the federal government helped state. Now again,
Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't know the power. This
Speaker 1: is more pete state that he knew about politics. But
Speaker 1: I remember seeing George Bush face and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: he looked like he really was bothered that this motherfucker
Speaker 1: said that that he don't like blacks. Yeah, And thinking
Speaker 1: about it now, I think George Bush still be like
Speaker 1: bitch ass.
Speaker 4: Now that's why he's friends so much with o'baf names.
Speaker 4: Yeah what Michelle like cry out her shoulder and ship
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: Shout out to tree.
Speaker 1: I think he hates that we don't act the way
Speaker 1: white people act towards us, towards them. You know what,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that because I think he just like
Speaker 1: he said, he wants to be mean to white people.
Speaker 3: That's what he's.
Speaker 4: Says towards us, towards them, the way white people act
Speaker 4: towards white people.
Speaker 1: He said, I think he hates that we as black
Speaker 1: people don't act the way white people act towards us
Speaker 1: towards them.
Speaker 5: So like with this, I don't believe that because Catastrophe apologized.
Speaker 1: I know he's always everything about loves white people. He
Speaker 1: loves white people like everybody he talked about, he loves
Speaker 1: white people.
Speaker 3: So he wants black people to love white people like
Speaker 3: he do know he So this is what And I
Speaker 3: don't think Tree is right.
Speaker 4: He wants white people to not like white people.
Speaker 1: He wants he wants black people to be racist towards
Speaker 1: white people. That's what I said. Oh that's what he
Speaker 1: was saying. He thinks he wants. But I don't believe
Speaker 1: that Kanye loves white people. Kanye love white people. He's
Speaker 1: genuinely loves white people. He loves white people. And for
Speaker 1: years Charlotamagne told me, I'm like, man, this is Kanye West.
Speaker 1: He can't be He was like glasses. His affinity for
Speaker 1: white people is absolutely scary. It's a comfortability for him. No,
Speaker 1: he just it's greatness. He only can see greatness at
Speaker 1: the highest level in white people. And I mean, don't
Speaker 1: be wrong. There are some pretty awesome, great white people
Speaker 1: in America. I mean, Walt Disney is pretty great, Ralph
Speaker 1: Warren is pretty great. Like, there are some great white people.
Speaker 1: But it's just weird for us because it's like we've
Speaker 1: been taught, especially like he's like almost a little older
Speaker 1: than me. Like maybe by the year or two we
Speaker 1: were taught to find black people. We had like we
Speaker 1: ain't in the forties. We have some pretty dope brothers
Speaker 1: to look up to. You, I mean, sh Niggas, Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: You know, you got some all kind of dope brothers,
Speaker 1: you know, Malcolm X at that point, Martin Luther King.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of dope brothers. And he was like,
Speaker 1: I want to be Walt Disney, I want to be
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs. I want to be in my dream woman
Speaker 1: is Marilyn Monroe in the eighties, well, in Janet Jackson's eighties,
Speaker 1: in Holly Berry's nineties.
Speaker 6: So there's any way to confirm how is the finest woman?
Speaker 6: That statement, how is the how is the woman of
Speaker 6: your dream? In the same era as Janet Jackson's eighties.
Speaker 4: Here's here's here. Here's my personal opinion on that statement.
Speaker 3: He took a dead woman up.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was.
Speaker 4: When he said it to be provocative. I don't think
Speaker 4: that it was true.
Speaker 3: Oh that's true.
Speaker 4: I think he said it. You think it was true.
Speaker 1: He actually said he got his dream woman because she
Speaker 1: was the modern day Maryland Monroe. No, he wasn't playing.
Speaker 1: He's serious. So he just wanted a hole because that's
Speaker 1: what Maryland was, and he got it.
Speaker 3: But I think he saw Marilyn Monroe listen.
Speaker 1: So there is a there is a there's a thing
Speaker 1: specifically about him that I think he sees past these
Speaker 1: general consistus things like the term hoole.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I don't think.
Speaker 1: He quite But I think because he's not as anchored
Speaker 1: in street urban culture.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. It's in Chicago, nigga.
Speaker 1: But his Chicago in it is like in Chicago is
Speaker 1: like one of the blackest places.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've been in Chicago, nigga. It's like nigga.
Speaker 1: Chicago is like nigga, that's fuck soul, that shit blues, nigga.
Speaker 1: It is black black. Yeah, Chicago like outer space black
Speaker 1: like Chicago and Detroit. Yeah them ship's black. So but
Speaker 1: also I think his mother and a professor, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, raising him in different environments, trying to
Speaker 1: keep his mind free so she could cultivate something special.
Speaker 1: I lived on campus with his mom. He lived in
Speaker 1: a like a suburb part they moved. You know, she
Speaker 1: probably stayed on him with good programs, and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like she was, she was on her ship.
Speaker 1: And I think somewhere along the line, he just started
Speaker 1: to see things in this very general sense, you know what,
Speaker 1: like more like Malcolm, more like Martin Luther King. I
Speaker 1: had a dream, you know what I mean, more like
Speaker 1: he you know what I mean, And he had a
Speaker 1: dream like and I think that's the creed of his life,
Speaker 1: is like I had a dream. You feel me. So
Speaker 1: it's like I get it. But Malcolm X died when
Speaker 1: I've been to the mountaintop. It makes sense now since
Speaker 1: you said, you know what I'm saying, And I think
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I think he's always had this
Speaker 1: thing where like white people like, it's one thing to
Speaker 1: be raised. And forgive me for lack of better term,
Speaker 1: for give me for a better term of saying white
Speaker 1: people like. I hate that word because it can't it's
Speaker 1: not about every person. It means that the ship weighing
Speaker 1: down on our head. It's like he saw Walt Disney.
Speaker 3: Is fucking great, Steve Jobs is fucking great. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: These are some great men and.
Speaker 4: Some a little impolite that I'm projecting out of what
Speaker 4: I think might be in his head. Sure, there's just
Speaker 4: because of size and scope of markets and a lot
Speaker 4: of capacities. I think he perceives there to be an
Speaker 4: astrocis like because I remember watching something one time back
Speaker 4: in the day where he said Michael Jackson was bigger
Speaker 4: than Black.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, all these same people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well OJ wasn't big like Michael.
Speaker 3: Jackson, my dad and himself.
Speaker 1: Bigg is Michael Jackson biggas Jordan's in America movies.
Speaker 4: All the people that's social and transcendent.
Speaker 1: So all the people, all the people like my dad.
Speaker 1: I think we're too young. JA was like a really
Speaker 1: big big deal. Him and Jim Brown like way different
Speaker 1: than we see it because I think we got the
Speaker 1: version of O j we got is a little bit corny.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was out there, but not like how
Speaker 1: they saw him. He was like this, He was Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan of his time. He was just over the top athlete,
Speaker 1: running back from colleague proes. He went to sc right
Speaker 1: and he's just like, so, I think it was like
Speaker 1: this big deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah. To be honest with may, I think he perceives
Speaker 4: there to be an asterisk of you know, like you're
Speaker 4: a big deal for a black guy kind of kind
Speaker 4: of thing. And he thinks, I want to be the
Speaker 4: biggest period, you know, so, and I think that for
Speaker 4: that reason, he goes, well, this is a from a networks,
Speaker 4: who are the five for just people in the world,
Speaker 4: those guys, I want to be richer to that or
Speaker 4: whatever the fuck it might be. You know, like it's
Speaker 4: preoccupied with that, you know what preoccupiers trying to transcend
Speaker 4: any preconception in his own mind, of his own limitations
Speaker 4: of perception by the public.
Speaker 3: And that's how his mom raised him. That's what I
Speaker 3: was ready to say to you.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if she's wrong, Lord knows, I
Speaker 1: have no right. I'm not even a parent, let alone
Speaker 1: a parent of Donda West's level. Like it's a she's
Speaker 1: another level of a parent. She another level of a
Speaker 1: sister rest her. So she's a she's a top notch
Speaker 1: type of person to raise this boy to think he
Speaker 1: could be you know, whatever he wanted. And I think
Speaker 1: you are supposed to raise your kid that way. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you supposed to raise your kid also knowing that
Speaker 1: they are black. And that's the balance.
Speaker 3: She didn't do.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if she didn't do the ballance.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's right. I think this is what
Speaker 1: it looks like when it's not over instilled in you
Speaker 1: that you're black.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if she's wrong, because maybe it
Speaker 3: does limit.
Speaker 1: You, you know what I mean, Maybe it does, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like he has a disdain for blackness. Let's just
Speaker 3: call it like that.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, I'm glad we're having this conversation because
Speaker 1: now y'all pushing my thought.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1: But it's also because black in America has been limited
Speaker 1: this whole time. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: If that's the problem.
Speaker 4: I want to say that again, pot me. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think he has a what was the word he said
Speaker 4: about He said equality? He said doesn't like black people
Speaker 4: or something like that, Like, what was the word that
Speaker 4: the king used?
Speaker 3: Disdain for black people?
Speaker 4: Yes, I think he has a disdain for the preconception
Speaker 4: of of limitation that goes along with that. I don't
Speaker 4: think he dislikes the community. I think he I think,
Speaker 4: if anything, he's trying to separate himself from the greater perception.
Speaker 4: In that regard, he wants to be if you want
Speaker 4: to be Steve Jobs, Like, how many of those all
Speaker 4: time are there for you know, in that level five ten?
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's it's bigger than.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: At that point, you're just a novelty act. And he
Speaker 4: just kind of think wants to be that to me.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I don't know him from a hole
Speaker 4: in the wall. I don't really follow what's going on.
Speaker 3: But but he has no love for the black culture.
Speaker 1: It seems like, well, because I think I think what
Speaker 1: it is is, well, he has love for black art
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean maybe not how because again black
Speaker 1: culture is such a lazy term, the street urban culture,
Speaker 1: let's use that then.
Speaker 3: No, because that's not his thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think he might have probably pursued getting into a
Speaker 4: different I mean, unless he's That's why I think his
Speaker 4: whole thing is just self righteous fan, you know, Like
Speaker 4: I think he if he really had, like that much
Speaker 4: of an issue with black culture and his own identity,
Speaker 4: he would have gone and been, you know, just a
Speaker 4: pure fashion guy or gotten into gone to college and
Speaker 4: tried to be like a violin player or an orchestra
Speaker 4: conductor or some shit and do something completely different. Just
Speaker 4: didn't just completely just go away as far as he
Speaker 4: possibly could go, which I don't think he did.
Speaker 1: Shout out to DT, what up can y'all doing way
Speaker 1: too much? YEA realized that there's another door he can't
Speaker 1: get into. Yeah, all of us knew that.
Speaker 3: I knew that before I started walking in the room.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Lucky Lawrence from Chicago, tough combo for
Speaker 1: blacks migrating. We always wanted to be included in their institutions.
Speaker 1: That was truly the end of UH. That was truly
Speaker 1: the ending of Black Wall Street is when they created integration.
Speaker 1: But it also probably is the worst thing. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Roughie and TV going hard she did. Kanye is
Speaker 1: just laying he doesn't hate black people, he hates the
Speaker 1: concept of being black.
Speaker 4: It's not that dissimilar to that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to be Brace sellout. Yeah, looking crazy, you
Speaker 1: calling him uncle Rutgies. No, that's probably a push, not
Speaker 1: Uncle Ruggies. Don Again, I think we're having the right conversation, right.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 4: I think you know what's like, there's a scene. No
Speaker 4: one's gonna know this. I'm a total Seinfeld nerd. Well,
Speaker 4: people might know that, but they're not going to know
Speaker 4: this aspect of this particular part of Seinfeld. George Costanza
Speaker 4: in the show was never viewed as a guy with
Speaker 4: any character whatsoever in any way, shape or form. At
Speaker 4: one point in time, he's dating a girl's got a
Speaker 4: kid to have a birthday party, and at the birthday party,
Speaker 4: something in the oven starts to burn, so their smokes
Speaker 4: I think there's a fire. He throws all the kids
Speaker 4: and old ladies out of the way to save himself.
Speaker 4: He didn't hate everybody at the party. He just he's
Speaker 4: He's just all about George.
Speaker 1: He wants to be the black version of everything white
Speaker 1: and great name brand says, and that's what I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think that's the I don't think he wants to
Speaker 1: be the black version, wants to be white.
Speaker 4: I just think he wants to be the biggest and
Speaker 4: he perceives the two or he perceives if not being
Speaker 4: I don't think he perceives white to be the greatest.
Speaker 4: He perceives there to be a connotative stigma with being,
Speaker 4: like like you could be the greatest black person and
Speaker 4: you're still, you know, not the greatest of all. I
Speaker 4: think he's trying to just alienate himself from from that
Speaker 4: and then so he's throwing out the baby with the
Speaker 4: bath water.
Speaker 3: So to speak.
Speaker 1: He's more like Tom dub than Uncle Rutgies. I think
Speaker 1: so yeah, I like that. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1: Shut out to Kiki, welcome to the lunch table, welcome back.
Speaker 1: I don't know why Glasses can't accept Kanye is just
Speaker 1: a square and been square until he got some bread.
Speaker 1: Hey man shout out to p hate speculating on how
Speaker 1: a man feels. So I say he acts like the
Speaker 1: guy that has been hurt or rejected by a woman
Speaker 1: and takes it out on every man after as I
Speaker 1: see he treats the coach or I'm crying. I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at that. I'm not mad at that, and that
Speaker 1: really could be, but you know it's funny. I think
Speaker 1: that's him and Drake. I think Drake. I think Drake
Speaker 1: has declared war on black women because like somewhere along
Speaker 1: the line, the black women didn't see him in that light.
Speaker 1: And as soon as he got in that light, he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fucking all of you bitches nothing, all
Speaker 1: of y'all. Mouse, Yeah, I mean, I'm not feinna marry
Speaker 1: none of y'all. I'm not finna get no baby stilling
Speaker 1: of y'all. But it's punishment, and I think, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Sugar Free said that. Sugar Free said that about himself
Speaker 4: and his own words.
Speaker 1: Shout out to shout out the Kiki. Those are great
Speaker 1: points together, you know what I mean. When you're thinking
Speaker 1: about it, I think, but I've been saying this for
Speaker 1: a while, right, I've been saying this for a while, Bro.
Speaker 1: There is a group of modern people over the last
Speaker 1: twenty five years that have came into this business and
Speaker 1: declare war on the streets.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they have like they are mad. It was
Speaker 1: like they can never sit at the cool table, and
Speaker 1: they like, now that I'm here, I'm finna get all
Speaker 1: these niggas out the table. Like it's people, right, It's
Speaker 1: people trying to It's people trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: certain people off the streets like gang members. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, right, that it's happening. And it's like they
Speaker 1: declare war on the streets and here we are, and
Speaker 1: that's what it seems like it's happening. And it's like
Speaker 1: even Kanye like, I hate I hate street niggas in
Speaker 1: y'all street niggas. Why why are you generalizing that? And
Speaker 1: what do you mean y'all street niggas? Like when is that?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He be like, fuck y'all
Speaker 1: street niggas.
Speaker 3: What did he want to get beat up?
Speaker 1: Why niggas the streets didn't do nothing you, we didn't
Speaker 1: take nothing from you. What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: And I think that's the problem. And now you look
Speaker 1: every day and certain fans of certain artists, right, they like, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all think y'all cool. Y'all think y'all cool. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that shit really happening.
Speaker 4: Is it fair to say that this all ties up together?
Speaker 4: And that he hates the fact the guys from the
Speaker 4: street have the potential to damage his imation, his perception
Speaker 4: at large from people.
Speaker 3: Nobody from the street was trying to damage.
Speaker 4: No, I don't mean they're trying to do it on purpose.
Speaker 4: Just their simple existence in the way that they do
Speaker 4: things threatens his great perception that he feels he is
Speaker 4: due from the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, Pete, I'm not the credibility. I think
Speaker 1: you're talking about the credibility of being like.
Speaker 4: These here making themselves look stupid. It makes me look
Speaker 4: stupid because people see them and see me. So they
Speaker 4: did like that whole thing. So I just hate them
Speaker 4: all together. And everything they do, everything they stand for,
Speaker 4: everything do, everything they stand for, reflects negatively on me,
Speaker 4: my association and in that whole you know, Okay, I
Speaker 4: literally think that his entire concept of a good day
Speaker 4: or a bad day is how glorified versus not glorified
Speaker 4: was I today?
Speaker 1: That's just kind of how I went to cornballs who
Speaker 1: never had a voice in school. Now we know why
Speaker 1: fucking cry oh man shout out to p He talks
Speaker 1: about it in his early music in the constant reminding
Speaker 1: he was the backpack polo wearing etcetera, etcetera. It's clearly
Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder, that is true. He do
Speaker 1: be mad about that, and it's like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, what I'm struggling because I just thought about it.
Speaker 1: His mom could have raised him, like my mom shout
Speaker 1: out told Olivia Restaurer's soul. We could have moved to Lakewood,
Speaker 1: and she moved us to Compton, to the Richland Forums
Speaker 1: in Compton. The forums are like an affluent black It's
Speaker 1: as affluent as you can get in Compton. They's still Compton,
Speaker 1: still Compting, but it's as affluent as you can get
Speaker 1: in Compting. And I remember my mom telling me this
Speaker 1: at like four or five years old, and it's funny
Speaker 1: because I was right at forty five.
Speaker 3: I remember my mom told me forty years ago.
Speaker 1: She was like, y'all couldn't moved yaut of law, but
Speaker 1: I wanted y'all to have a black experience, right. That
Speaker 1: was something I remember her saying to me at five
Speaker 1: years old, like you know what I mean, And she
Speaker 1: understood that I needed to see myself as a black man.
Speaker 1: And I think some parents are raising their kids to
Speaker 1: not see themselves as black men. I agree, and not like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sell out type of not seeing myself
Speaker 1: as a black man, but like, no, you could do anything.
Speaker 3: You could go out and do anything, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Dnde's wrong, Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: if that's how she did it.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm speculating. I don't think it's wrong.
Speaker 1: But then because blackness, like I always say, like being
Speaker 1: humane Pete right is you're aspect and care for other humans.
Speaker 1: Blackness is your same thing for other black people. So
Speaker 1: like I could imagine think about it, right like, I
Speaker 1: had all ap classes, my grades. If I would have
Speaker 1: grew up in Lakewood, I would have probably had this
Speaker 1: weird look towards black people, like, oh, we could all
Speaker 1: make it. I made it. I'm black versus like being
Speaker 1: a gang banger, right like. And it's weird because I
Speaker 1: never growing up. I didn't really want to be a
Speaker 1: gang banger or I didn't even think about it like that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing.
Speaker 3: That's just the homies. That's where I grew up at.
Speaker 1: But I understand why God pushed me through that path
Speaker 1: because it made me have a different thing for other brothers.
Speaker 1: I realized everybody mother wasn't like my mother, every like
Speaker 1: my homeboy. Some of my homeboy moms was on drugs.
Speaker 1: Some of my homeboy dads was in prison, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And it shaped their mind different. And
Speaker 1: I was always you know, I was always conscious and
Speaker 1: sober enough to see everything, and I was never scared
Speaker 1: to ask questions. And I realized that everybody didn't have
Speaker 1: the same even though we all grew up houses next
Speaker 1: to each other. My dad lived in wives one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventeenth Street, my mom lived in the Forums. All
Speaker 1: of our experiences were different, and I could see how
Speaker 1: theirs was way more painful, everything way more painful. And
Speaker 1: I was like, that's why I stand up so hard
Speaker 1: for the streets. Like when Sherry or certain people say that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, y'ah, I'm not having that. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me because I saw this with niggas. I saw
Speaker 1: the world beat them down. I saw the world beat them.
Speaker 1: I saw the world beating my homeway Moto dawn rested.
Speaker 1: So I saw it. I saw my own eyes. I
Speaker 1: remember my mom fed him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because Sue was going through what she was going through.
Speaker 3: He had it harder than me, He had it harder
Speaker 3: than I did. But don't you think he's old enough
Speaker 3: to not have his mom influence If it's going the
Speaker 3: wrong way, like it's negative, you know, connotation, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's negative.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't think it's negative
Speaker 1: what Kanye was going had going on, even even right now.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's negative. I think he doesn't quite
Speaker 1: understand how it's like, you have the.
Speaker 3: Thing about hip hop negative feedback though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he can also conflate that with people misunderstanding
Speaker 1: his messaging by.
Speaker 3: Standing on with his mom raised him to.
Speaker 1: Be well again because he's pursuing his own greatness. Blackness
Speaker 1: is pursuing our greatness, and it ain't aspirational. It's not like,
Speaker 1: oh I did it so that that now every black
Speaker 1: person can see me doing it. My mom raised me like, no,
Speaker 1: you help niggas, You help people. So his mom wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know because Donda is that's not my brother.
Speaker 1: Donda didn't raise me.
Speaker 3: But his actions, he's not helping niggas well.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's helped a lot of needs help to niggas,
Speaker 1: for sure, but I'm saying he has to understand he
Speaker 1: represents us. I don't think it's negative or positive. It's
Speaker 1: offending me because I want him to represent other poor
Speaker 1: black people. But maybe that's not his representation. Maybe he
Speaker 1: represents I don't know who he represents. I think Kanye
Speaker 1: just represent Kanye. But I think hip hop consistently is
Speaker 1: the voice of poor people in those communities. So you
Speaker 1: have to represent.
Speaker 3: It, give a voice to it.
Speaker 1: And so when you're doing stuff that you know gonna
Speaker 1: affect somebody's grandmother, and when you're putting on a cluekluts
Speaker 1: Klan and you know you doing this, I think you
Speaker 1: kind of losing, you know what I mean, the plot.
Speaker 1: But that may not also be his plot. That may
Speaker 1: not also be his dilemma. That ain't what he owned. Now.
Speaker 3: I don't gotta like.
Speaker 1: It, but I still don't think we should Oh he
Speaker 1: should be ignored and we should kick him out, or
Speaker 1: you know again, I don't think that's the point.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think his mom wasn't wrong, Like he understands what
Speaker 1: Disney is great ort Disney is a great person. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know who the fuck Walt Disney was. It's
Speaker 1: a fucking TV show in a fucking movie or a
Speaker 1: film company or or a channel. I mean, he actually
Speaker 1: knew the motherfucker that inspired the channel. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I've only oddly, I've only looked up
Speaker 1: to great black people my whole life. I have never
Speaker 1: looked up to a great white man until I got grown.
Speaker 3: Where the god.
Speaker 1: Pete, I never had one white person I looked up
Speaker 1: to until I got grown.
Speaker 4: One't happy to have broken that streak.
Speaker 3: For you, true pet because you're definitely one of those
Speaker 3: white people.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, Nigga, I am a magic I'm
Speaker 1: a Showtime baby. The coolest white man was pat Riley
Speaker 1: my life, Eddie Murphy, feel me, Martiny du King, Malcolm
Speaker 1: x x clan n WA, feel me my dad, my mom.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you make me feel old. Man? Stop stop?
Speaker 4: You didn't think that Kirk was the coolest guy in
Speaker 4: the NBA?
Speaker 3: Yeah, bridge of his glass.
Speaker 1: Feels looking showtime. So you get what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I grew up looking up only two black people. The
Speaker 1: first white man I ever have respect for that wasn't
Speaker 1: around like because it was black people.
Speaker 3: Because you know, white people with black people they go
Speaker 3: to they apart. Who wasn't the way there? Who was it?
Speaker 1: The first? I want to hear this when Larry Bird retired.
Speaker 1: It was Larry Bird, yeah, because I was like.
Speaker 4: When he retired, yeah, bird was over.
Speaker 1: Either back was bad. His back was bad.
Speaker 3: You feel me. I was like, man, that was a
Speaker 3: good thing.
Speaker 1: Like you know, you can start the size up competing
Speaker 1: and you like they was competing, and it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss this cracker. Larry Bird was the first
Speaker 1: white man I ever them there in Hollywood, all the
Speaker 1: rich Larry Bird was it no yet? Because I saw
Speaker 1: movie with some white people, like I remember seeing Robin
Speaker 1: Williams playing popa niggas Popeye. I was Williams was.
Speaker 3: I grew up with pop I.
Speaker 1: Didn't understand acting nigga. That was poppy. So every white
Speaker 1: person Kelly from Breaking, but it was Kelly from breaking
Speaker 1: their movie. They're not real people. Okay, they're not real people.
Speaker 1: Larry Bird is. In the early nineties, I knew Larry
Speaker 1: Bird was a real man. He wasn't necessarily one that
Speaker 1: was around brothers. I mean that that's not kind of
Speaker 1: how I saw him. He's the first white man. And
Speaker 1: then as I got older, my brain could understand whiteness
Speaker 1: a little different. And then I didn't even make it
Speaker 1: the same as black mans. I realized were playing two
Speaker 1: different games. Kanye. Don't feel like we playing two different games. Kanye,
Speaker 1: feel like we're playing one game. At least that's what
Speaker 1: I think he's doing. I feel like we're playing two
Speaker 1: different games. My job is to go out and be
Speaker 1: the greatest black man I could be, Not to be
Speaker 1: the greatest man I can.
Speaker 3: There is no room, and a lot of people who
Speaker 3: know me get mad at this.
Speaker 1: I can't. I have to go out and be the
Speaker 1: greatest black man I could be. I could never just
Speaker 1: be a man impossible. So if I do one thing
Speaker 1: to shame black people, like as a whole, and I
Speaker 1: know it's a shame like Nigga, that I might as
Speaker 1: well not even do that. And I think Yay is
Speaker 1: not going out to be the greatest black man. I
Speaker 1: think Yay is going out to be the greatest Yay
Speaker 1: he could be. I need to be the greatest glasses
Speaker 1: I could be within the confines of being a excellent
Speaker 1: black man or black.
Speaker 4: Man word right there? Yeah that Kanye, that's like his
Speaker 4: number one trigger word cones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but and I'm not mad at that. But I'm
Speaker 1: actually so forgive me. And maybe this is wrong. I'm
Speaker 1: actually happy with black confines I never needed. I never needed,
Speaker 1: I don't need. What's with no white person? Who the
Speaker 1: fuck needs all of that? Now? Listen, I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at no brother who feels like they need it, but man,
Speaker 1: I don't need no billions of fuck. I mean we
Speaker 1: had this conversation. What I told you, If I made
Speaker 1: a million dollars a year, I'm good. I could take
Speaker 1: care of everybody need to take care of. I can
Speaker 1: help everybody whatever. I ain't never needed more than a
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, so I really never thought to myself,
Speaker 1: I have to sacrifice no blackness to get there.
Speaker 3: Zero.
Speaker 4: What's weird to me not the idea of who thinks
Speaker 4: you can you would need all that or even want it,
Speaker 4: but who thinks you can even get all that?
Speaker 1: You're like, you make a billion dollars.
Speaker 4: I just think who right now is equally probably the
Speaker 4: most Who are the two most simultaneously loved and hated
Speaker 4: people in the country right now? You couldn't find people
Speaker 4: by headcount that are hated by more individuals today than
Speaker 4: Donald Trump and Elon musk.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: Even now, I don't look up to either one of them.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying looking up to them. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: the idea that, like everyone, I'm gonna be bigger than black.
Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna love me. I'm gonna be like Elon Musk.
Speaker 4: You mean, the guy that fifty million people want to
Speaker 4: kill tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's funny, but that's the point. I
Speaker 1: never looked up to white people until probably, like my brain.
Speaker 1: Could you know, like I said, Larry Bird was the
Speaker 1: first white person like man that that was all right,
Speaker 1: white boy. I mean, and I'm reflecting back to the
Speaker 1: Lakers playing in the eighties.
Speaker 3: They said Larry Bird after like a nigga though he
Speaker 3: be talking shit. He talking about the white boys and shit.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: But I tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: It's like so I would think he grew up like us,
Speaker 1: like I would have thought he grew up in blackness.
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to be the greatest man I
Speaker 3: could be.
Speaker 1: If I had to be the greatest man, I could
Speaker 1: be and have a billion dollars, or be the greatest
Speaker 1: black man I could be and have tien million, I'd have.
Speaker 3: Ten million dollars.
Speaker 1: Nothing about me wants to be the greatest man I
Speaker 1: could be if it means I can't be black if
Speaker 1: I gotta sell out any ounce of blackness, You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, if I gotta sell any ounce of
Speaker 1: if they tell me glasses, man, I'm gonna make you.
Speaker 1: I'ma make you have one hundred million dollars. But you
Speaker 1: can't say you as a Crypt, ain't gonna happen. Ain't
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I gotta show people that came up the way I
Speaker 3: came up. We could get here. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's that, and that's that was the biggest thing. I
Speaker 1: think my mom wanted me to understand. If they said,
Speaker 1: right now, they said, man, you gotta say never was
Speaker 1: a Crypt. You gotta this song cripping never.
Speaker 3: No shirt.
Speaker 1: Every crypt need to know you not stuck when you
Speaker 1: grew up. How we grow up. That's that's important stuff.
Speaker 1: Every blood gotta know, every blood gotta know. Nigga, we
Speaker 1: could do it this way. We could be proud of
Speaker 1: where we come from. We could do whatever we gotta do.
Speaker 1: We could do it the same way anybody else do it.
Speaker 1: We don't got to be ashamed. I mean, we could
Speaker 1: do it just how we do it. That's what I
Speaker 1: be so proud of Snoop about or any of them dudes. Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I love about hip hop. I love when
Speaker 1: I watch Law and Order, like and I told Ice
Speaker 1: t this. I love when that screen pop up. It
Speaker 1: don't say Tracy Morrow, Let's say Ice Tea. It's a
Speaker 1: street name. I love that. That's the streetest thing you
Speaker 1: can do. It's his nick street name, Ice Tea. Well,
Speaker 1: Snoop do something it Olet me be like, yay, we
Speaker 1: have Snoop Dogg. Here Snoop Dogg from Lung Beach. And
Speaker 1: he was talking on the Olympics and he was like yeah,
Speaker 1: cuz I was like, He's like that remind me the
Speaker 1: Home of Death, see, because I was like, yes, that's
Speaker 1: what this hip hop shit is all about. I love
Speaker 1: when jay Z is able to tell people you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Oh yeah, I used to sell drugs.
Speaker 3: Look look where I got it.
Speaker 1: Because everybody who had these harsh experiences have to realize
Speaker 1: they could have a life outside of this because some
Speaker 1: of us we grew up. That's the first and simplest
Speaker 1: way we see being successful. For me right there, that's it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. We go through these super chests, diamondbacks, photography.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the five dollars. What's the funny shit
Speaker 1: you've seen while working in the music industry aside from
Speaker 1: Drake's l I know that's probably number one question. That
Speaker 1: wasn't even that, uh, the funniest thing I saw in
Speaker 1: the music industry stunner Man telling me Erica Badu was
Speaker 1: like a witch. I wanted to get an Erica Badu.
Speaker 1: I seen her at the MTV Awards, and I mean
Speaker 1: I had never seen her before. Like she was just
Speaker 1: the lady that sing all a little like the little
Speaker 1: weird old lady. Not weird. Don't forgive me bad terms
Speaker 1: that you said nothing. She was like she was like
Speaker 1: a like a like a like a like a neo
Speaker 1: soul person before neo saw was really a thing.
Speaker 4: She's like alternative to the biggest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just like this black and but when
Speaker 1: this motherfucker walked by, this motherfucker was the thickest thing
Speaker 1: in the world. Boy, she don't look thick on TV.
Speaker 1: I can see why Nigga stops showering fucking with her.
Speaker 1: I can see why you feel me. This motherfuckerick. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker put together like this mother she put together for real,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, Nigga, I'm I'm about to go shoot
Speaker 1: my shot. He's like, gee, what you what you got
Speaker 1: going on? I'm gonna go get an airbody look out
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. Like, I'm finna go run, Nigga, what she's
Speaker 1: not turn bitch a crib from w give me something funny,
Speaker 1: like what's happening with me? And he was like, nah,
Speaker 1: chill man. I was like, no, I'm finna go get
Speaker 1: out of be right back. He's like, nah, chill man.
Speaker 1: I was like wow. He was like, man, she a witch?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what you mean she a witch? He's like, no, Nigga,
Speaker 1: Like she's really like a witch. I'm like a witch?
Speaker 3: Like what he like?
Speaker 1: Like a witch?
Speaker 3: Nigga?
Speaker 1: And I looked at him. He looked at me and
Speaker 1: it was like serious. I was like, holy Ship.
Speaker 4: Orleans to play the witch card? Huh you got your
Speaker 4: to be like from New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't get up and don't do nothing.
Speaker 1: That was the funny. It's funny now, but that was
Speaker 1: the funniest.
Speaker 3: Like what happened? Like, did you go get her? What happened? Nigga?
Speaker 1: The look in his face, it was like real concern
Speaker 1: and I was like this nigga is serious. Feel me.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what I passed.
Speaker 1: And we know how you feel about witches in the hood.
Speaker 1: Don't go by that house. Shout out to Nick, thank
Speaker 1: you for the five dollars. I'm gonna keep saying that.
Speaker 1: Kim K Putty and a couple billing definitely change your perspective. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We'll see. Shout out to k Wait, thank you for
Speaker 1: the twenty dollars. My boy Yay literally said he's the
Speaker 1: closest thing to God living irony. Oh okay Yay literally said,
Speaker 1: is this k with a girl or a god? So
Speaker 1: the Kwa Yay literally said he's the closest thing to
Speaker 1: God living irony. Is his far from grace, is close
Speaker 1: to the story of Satan. I agree, he doesn't even
Speaker 1: realize it. I was just telling somebody that I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: when he was talking, he was saying something to somebody
Speaker 1: and I was like, I tweeted and I was like,
Speaker 1: why does this feel like the serpent talking to Eve
Speaker 1: and the Garden of Ed Like it was so much true,
Speaker 1: but it was like this one deceptive fact and I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, that made me why did that make
Speaker 1: me think of that? Him tweeting that to that person,
Speaker 1: and then she's kit saying that's crazy Yay.
Speaker 3: Creates storms and gets mad.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have an umbrella saying thing he said anti
Speaker 1: black is a choice.
Speaker 3: He just said the same thing.
Speaker 1: He starts firing, then run with the water holes, complaining,
Speaker 1: set out to Nick, thank you for the five dollars?
Speaker 3: West Coast over every body? Yeah that part? What's love bro.
Speaker 4: Y'all?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I do not know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, air was cold. It was cold. Shout out to Beijing.
Speaker 1: Ain't funniest thing in the music industry was watching Glasses
Speaker 1: Malone not being able to get off the young money
Speaker 1: bench fucking bench warmer.
Speaker 3: That's not quite how I went.
Speaker 4: What's the story?
Speaker 1: Well, so, so what happens is, so there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of Drake fans, right, they just discovered hip hop in
Speaker 1: two thousand and like fourteen. They don't know, like you know,
Speaker 1: so they like there's people who feel like huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't He's like a baby. They don't know. So
Speaker 1: they don't realize I had two hit records. They don't
Speaker 1: realize that's not what happened. They don't realize that. They
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, Glasses just be talking about Drake or
Speaker 1: like I'm jealous. But again, if you're gonna look at
Speaker 1: all my tweets, you can see I always support the
Speaker 1: dude and be in this corner until he battled my friend,
Speaker 1: and that's different.
Speaker 3: Now I'm rival with my partner. But they don't understand.
Speaker 1: So in their mind they're like Glasses didn't even versus
Speaker 1: me not knowing, they not realizing. I just didn't know
Speaker 1: how to make no music, Like I just didn't know how,
Speaker 1: Like I know how to make the art, but I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: What records were.
Speaker 1: Like I was a crip. I was a doe e
Speaker 1: motherfuck up.
Speaker 3: Now it ain't close close.
Speaker 1: But I always give a lot of credit to stunner
Speaker 1: man in them because they tried their best. I just
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing. They chose me because I was really
Speaker 1: that nigga for real. It's just levels, like I was
Speaker 1: really that nigga for real. So you think they chose
Speaker 1: you because it's that nigga in the streets, or chose
Speaker 1: you because you was gonna become that nigga rapping. Well,
Speaker 1: I think so they understood street urban culture, right, So
Speaker 1: it's the level of authenticity that I provide that you
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of ninety nine percent of the artists
Speaker 1: in the music business history. So everybody knew that genuinely
Speaker 1: I was who I was supposed to be in the streets.
Speaker 1: And I had a hit record like I came with
Speaker 1: this Akon song certified like I had it. So they
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's good. But when it was time
Speaker 1: for them to make me a record, the West Coast
Speaker 1: was kind of transitioning. Remember they had kind of kicked
Speaker 1: everybody out that they didn't really give a lot of
Speaker 1: new people's shots. After Tupac died, the producers wasn't really
Speaker 1: working with a new batch of artists. I don't think
Speaker 1: they thought they could get them deals like battle Cat.
Speaker 1: Battle Cat took on the East Sides, but that's a
Speaker 1: snoop group. Warren didn't produce anything for anybody else. Quick
Speaker 1: didn't produce anything for anybody else. You know, the people
Speaker 1: who are supposed to produce the next wave of artists,
Speaker 1: they kind of checked out. Why maybe they couldn't get
Speaker 1: them signed or whatnot. So when I came into business,
Speaker 1: remember I came in like really by myself, like I
Speaker 1: was just like this street nigga, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: straight up, Like, I was just this that's it. So
Speaker 1: when I'm signing the cash money, we get a hit
Speaker 1: record like Tump made it for me too.
Speaker 3: Did what you know about that?
Speaker 1: For Ti Tump who did good life for Kanye West
Speaker 1: and can't tell me nothing. Tump is like a monster.
Speaker 1: So again it was like it was a big deal.
Speaker 1: So when it was time to make the next record,
Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about making no records though, So
Speaker 1: I made a living and I don't have to work
Speaker 1: a job, no regular job, no more. I'm make enough
Speaker 1: money to pay bills. But you know, when it comes
Speaker 1: to actually going on to be the greatest, you have
Speaker 1: to know a lot about music. Like when Drake came
Speaker 1: to cast Money, he knew more about records. I just
Speaker 1: now know what he knows about records. That's how he
Speaker 1: was already ahead of making records, like he knew it.
Speaker 1: His team was trump tight, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Forty was like a wizard. Them niggas was cold. They
Speaker 1: studied us, remember they studied black music. But he had
Speaker 1: a team though, right, yeah, yeah, I had a team
Speaker 1: toop on My boy quit so the one who would
Speaker 1: have knew Guido, he moved to Atlanta. The dude who
Speaker 1: did my first project, my boy kind of got tied
Speaker 1: chasing this hip hop dream, had a family and moved
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I mean, so I came by myself. My pool,
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about no motherfucking records. I mean, nobody
Speaker 1: around us knew about records. And then cash Money signing me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm a West Coast artist.
Speaker 1: It's a different task culturally. So I remember when I
Speaker 1: asked you one question was like I don't need South
Speaker 1: Beach when I got my own beach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember when I asked you that.
Speaker 1: That was a big thing. Everybody wanted me to fear me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, people always want to blame cash Money.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Nigga, they did outstanding. They were like great.
Speaker 1: I mean so I think, And so a lot of
Speaker 1: Drake fans feel like like, oh, they feel like that's
Speaker 1: a di to me.
Speaker 3: But again, Drake is like a Nickelodeon kid.
Speaker 1: Man. I'm really from the Marianna trenches, not like them
Speaker 1: regular trenches these niggas times. I'm from really the Marianna trenches.
Speaker 1: I've been in the deepest, darkest places doing the thing
Speaker 1: for real, and I'm here. I mean, I'm able to
Speaker 1: do this for a living. So it's like that was
Speaker 1: the biggest thing to me. So when they talk shit,
Speaker 1: I just laugh because they don't know. I mean, they
Speaker 1: just start listening to music the other day. They don't think.
Speaker 1: I tell you one thing. They don't think. If Birdman
Speaker 1: changed my life, and you know street niggas, bird Man
Speaker 1: changed my life, you think for two seconds bird Man
Speaker 1: couldn't call me and tell me, hey, man, start making
Speaker 1: fun of that nigga, and I wouldn't. So you got
Speaker 1: to ask yourself. Lil Wayne could call me right now,
Speaker 1: say man, don't make fun of that nigga. You don't
Speaker 1: think I would. I'm gonna listen to them niggas. You
Speaker 1: know why I ain't called me. That's the question you
Speaker 1: should be asking yourself if this nigga is so, if
Speaker 1: the nigga you like, it's so cool and he's so righteous,
Speaker 1: and why niggas ain't telling glasses Hey, pipe down, bro?
Speaker 1: How much you know percentage wise of the street urban
Speaker 1: culture that actually came from, like you said, down and dirty,
Speaker 1: that actually know what that really means? From birth, not
Speaker 1: coming in when they was fifteen, not coming in where
Speaker 1: they was twenty, but actually from birth. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole business is built off of that black music in general,
Speaker 1: because I see, like I see a lot of people
Speaker 1: come into communities at eight certain ages, and you come
Speaker 1: in at twenty one to a neighborhood. Now you think
Speaker 1: you're that neighborhood when you got somebody that was born
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. We was talking about that being the same.
Speaker 1: I don't look at that as being the same. We
Speaker 1: was talking about that the other day. I think that's
Speaker 1: the mistake. So you know the mistake. I think hip
Speaker 1: hop or street urman culture before the art gives up.
Speaker 3: They sell it to cheap. They sell it to cheap.
Speaker 3: I agree. So it's like a question what.
Speaker 4: Like with regard to that and saying I'm just feel
Speaker 4: like there's a separation maybe or I'm perceiving there to
Speaker 4: be one where like you move into some to a
Speaker 4: neighborhood and you kind of like a you're older and
Speaker 4: you take on the personality of that specific neighborhood. But
Speaker 4: I mean, how do you equate that, like as you're
Speaker 4: saying it, you know, because I Anmber. My friends grew
Speaker 4: up moving or all over the place, So like from
Speaker 4: a lifestyle standpoint, there really wasn't much change. They might
Speaker 4: have moved to this neighborhood from the county over or
Speaker 4: whatever else, but it wasn't like they were vaulting up
Speaker 4: and down throughout tax brackets. It was pretty much a
Speaker 4: similar type of lifestyle. They just were here versus there,
Speaker 4: because that's just how their families were where they were
Speaker 4: growing up.
Speaker 3: So what's the question.
Speaker 4: So the question is like, does does that do you
Speaker 4: view that differently versus like, say, like compared like a
Speaker 4: Kanye West who like jump tries to vault into say
Speaker 4: like street urban culture in that regard in his twenties,
Speaker 4: and he didn't grow up that way. He just wasn't
Speaker 4: from you know, the neighborhood he's talking about.
Speaker 1: You know, like I've thought a lot of times like
Speaker 1: it's Kanye hip hop, right, because I already knew Drake
Speaker 1: wasn't hip hop.
Speaker 3: Like I knew he because I had talked to him.
Speaker 1: I've listened to him talk a lot of times in
Speaker 1: real life, Like I could already tell he was like
Speaker 1: this different kind of kid.
Speaker 3: He was, like he's really a Jewish kid from Canada,
Speaker 3: Like he's not like his father.
Speaker 1: He's a brother, but he didn't He's not culturally anything
Speaker 1: like street urban culture.
Speaker 3: He really grew up culturally a Jewish man.
Speaker 1: So even talking to him, if you talk to because
Speaker 1: just listen to him talk because you could tell like
Speaker 1: he not cold, which and this is because.
Speaker 3: It's really just like a different kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Kanye was always hard for me to understand because Kanye
Speaker 1: West is from Chicago, you know, and again, like blackness
Speaker 1: in Chicago's it's just natural. It's it's hard pressed for
Speaker 1: la nigga even imagine a Chicago where niggas ain't at
Speaker 1: because when I go to Chicago, it's just niggas everywhere,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but you know, you
Speaker 1: take into account how his mom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She was a doctor, you know, she she was a
Speaker 1: professor at a college. She put him through the best programs.
Speaker 1: She went to a lot of good schools, you know,
Speaker 1: art school. You know, he is definitely a privileged type
Speaker 1: of kid, you know, from a black perspective. So I
Speaker 1: just struggle to believe that he's not baptised the street
Speaker 1: urban culture.
Speaker 3: Now it's not impossible. Again, I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know him. That's gonna lead to.
Speaker 1: My next question is when did he get into music
Speaker 1: at what age? But the music ain't hip hop, Like
Speaker 1: the artistic expression of street urban culture is what hip
Speaker 1: hop is. It's the artistic expression. It's using music to
Speaker 1: express street urban culture. I just can't believe that there's
Speaker 1: a place in Chicago. And I could be wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: because I've heard from both sides, Like some people who
Speaker 1: love Kanye try to lie, but then the other people
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, g he did grow.
Speaker 3: Up in the suburb, but he ran with these people.
Speaker 3: So I just don't know enough.
Speaker 1: But some of it just don't seem rooted in blackness,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think it's just
Speaker 1: I think it's the book of Yay. Like I don't
Speaker 1: think Ye represents blackness as much as Yay represents ya
Speaker 1: does it? So no, so pt your point. It's like,
Speaker 1: even if you move around in Los Angeles, shout out
Speaker 1: to everybody who moved around in Los Angeles. You might've
Speaker 1: lived in the a Trade, you might have moved to
Speaker 1: the Great Streets, you might have moved to the form dogs,
Speaker 1: of counting. You might have moved around, but culturally they're
Speaker 1: going to be pretty much.
Speaker 4: Grew up in Fresno than you live in North Las
Speaker 4: Vegas now you in south central LA.
Speaker 1: But even that, they're still kind of all the same.
Speaker 1: If you live close to people without something, sure, that's that's.
Speaker 4: Kind of what I'm at.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Yay's thing is I think he
Speaker 1: grew up with something, So like we have those in Courson,
Speaker 1: like Da.
Speaker 3: Like Delamo.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Delamo is like a suburb that's close to Compton,
Speaker 1: but it's a suburb. But them dudes be baptized at
Speaker 1: Street or been coaching. So like, I need to get
Speaker 1: more information with the Chicago hummies about where it's at
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, like, in my mind, I want to
Speaker 1: believe he grew up in a Carson. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have zero ideas, but I think the reality is, uh, Pete,
Speaker 1: I think he grew up in Cerritos.
Speaker 4: Who say, yeah, I think he was further out than Carson.
Speaker 3: Here in California. No, No pete, Chicago.
Speaker 1: Okay, Srito Soritos is.
Speaker 4: Like I think he grew up in Belmont Shores, Long Beach.
Speaker 1: But I think sure, But I'm saying I think the
Speaker 1: problem is it is like like if you grew up
Speaker 1: in Crito's and your mom puts you through good schools
Speaker 1: and you see some people like you might be fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes from where street urban culture comes from, but you
Speaker 1: but I think he's five minutes away from street urban culture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're growing up, you're not going those five minutes.
Speaker 4: You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: So I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: But do people talk he did anybody hear from people
Speaker 1: that grew up with him? And do they talk about
Speaker 1: him growing up? Yeah, they knew it making music. They
Speaker 1: would say he'd be at a party or something. Not
Speaker 1: they didn't go to high school with him or nothing.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like the people grow you know
Speaker 1: where he went to high school, junior high things like that,
Speaker 1: Like where's those friends at That's that's a couple of
Speaker 1: the dudes. But it's just different, Okay, yay, Yeah, is
Speaker 1: a unique product. I think he was raised to be
Speaker 1: the greatest man he could be, not necessarily the greatest
Speaker 1: black man he could be. That's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: Or he decided on his own, like you know what,
Speaker 1: fuck being black. I'm Finela gonna be the greatest Kanye.
Speaker 1: I'm not black, I'm Kanye.
Speaker 4: Okay, he seems like, and you get this around academics
Speaker 4: and academic circles or whatever, some scenarios he was told
Speaker 4: he's a little too special a few too many times.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Royal Jenkins glasses. I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 1: Kanye older than me, and he came out of Oakland
Speaker 1: or suburb about the Chicago. I know that, but I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how far is Oakland from where
Speaker 1: the south side of Chicago.
Speaker 4: They're like, and not mileage wise, but culturally wise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, culturally wise, how far is it?
Speaker 1: Like like like in La right, like we all from
Speaker 1: the East Side, we all grew up. Don grew up
Speaker 1: in Compton. I grew up in Compton the wise, like
Speaker 1: like you know, I to take you over there, Lynnwood,
Speaker 1: Long Beach. All of that hit between the seventeen and
Speaker 1: all of that is where street urban culture comes from.
Speaker 3: Right between the motherfucking one ten.
Speaker 1: Hell, between the four five and the seventeen for that matter,
Speaker 1: is where street urban culture out in La right, but
Speaker 1: then their suburbs right close to them that people still
Speaker 1: you know, everybody go to school together.
Speaker 3: In Paramount, it can get street urban culture.
Speaker 1: Paaramount is a little suburb of necessarily, but it's still
Speaker 1: very much street urban culture. You go to the next
Speaker 1: city over from Pearamount, you in Lakewood. Lakewood is still
Speaker 1: kind of close in, but Lakewood ain't street urban culture.
Speaker 3: Oh it's not.
Speaker 1: Hell no, but it's close enough to where it could
Speaker 1: be a little bit Bellflower a little further, but it
Speaker 1: kind of still could kind of be so Ritos it
Speaker 1: ain't at all.
Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, Sorito's in like downy, you're stretching it pretty thin.
Speaker 1: You don't have none of that kind of stuff there,
Speaker 1: not really, because there's opportunities, there's things that you can
Speaker 1: have access to. You you're going to Okay, you're going
Speaker 1: to start seeing other successful people that don't just come
Speaker 1: from streetlight.
Speaker 3: You're going to see their success. How about that? Like,
Speaker 3: so you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Is it still urban there? Shout out to shout out yes,
Speaker 1: Disney populated. Shout out to Beijing. Hip hop was birth
Speaker 1: in the party room, down the streets. It was birth
Speaker 1: in the party room and the projects, not just any party.
Speaker 1: Stop trying to take that out of its poor party.
Speaker 1: It's not rich party. If it was, if it was
Speaker 1: a rich party, they have a fucking band. They're not
Speaker 1: two broke fucking vinyls. Dog. This is your problem. I
Speaker 1: know you won't access to everything, but just listen.
Speaker 4: I think the line, so to speak, is like where
Speaker 4: you grew up is selling drugs the opportunity for a
Speaker 4: come up or the opportunity for a come down.
Speaker 1: So so this is the weird part, right, It's like,
Speaker 1: this is something to really help you, right, Like in Compton,
Speaker 1: ninety percent, let's say ninety it's probably ninety nine, but
Speaker 1: ninety percent of successful things you gonna see, things that
Speaker 1: you will want come from people doing the wrong things.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say, Pete, Like when you go
Speaker 1: through Comptent or something, or you go through let's say,
Speaker 1: like the Jungles, ninety percent of the cool shit to have,
Speaker 1: the things you will want come from people doing the
Speaker 1: wrong things to get them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably fair. Even people who have the same
Speaker 4: amount of money as the other person in those environments
Speaker 4: are stowing it away. You're not going you're seeing it.
Speaker 4: It's probably not it's probably kind of.
Speaker 1: Nefarious, okay. Right, And then so it's like great, point.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Marcus Mitchell who makes a great point.
Speaker 1: What about View Park wins your heels for la street
Speaker 1: am culture. That's a great point. Like the overhels, right,
Speaker 1: but the overheels is right next to it, right, so
Speaker 1: you right here next to street aurbriculture. You go to
Speaker 1: school with everybody from street urban culture. Right. But then
Speaker 1: your parents people got some money, so you still kind
Speaker 1: of be baptized, your baptizing the culture, even if you
Speaker 1: don't the tree shades the community. The overheels are probably
Speaker 1: really the most dangerous sixties and shut out to all
Speaker 1: the ag homes. They'd be mad if I said this,
Speaker 1: But like them, niggas are the worst because they got
Speaker 1: something to prove. Same thing with the Dilamo niggas, like
Speaker 1: when you go to jail with the one nine zers.
Speaker 1: They was always the worst niggas because they was always
Speaker 1: trying to prove a point. I mean, so they were
Speaker 1: always over the top. They were on game bang too hard,
Speaker 1: over the top. But here's the thing, so this is
Speaker 1: how it looks. And Compton and watch wats ninety for
Speaker 1: sure nine nine percent everything you would want to have.
Speaker 1: Somebody doing the wrong thing got it right. Because it's
Speaker 1: the only thing you associate with success if it's not
Speaker 1: on TV. The best cars, d boys, pimps, gang bangers,
Speaker 1: the best, the best, everything, best, closed, best all that.
Speaker 1: That's what you see and you don't know nothing else.
Speaker 1: You disadvantages. Now you move over to let's let's slide
Speaker 1: down between the one oh five and the ninety one.
Speaker 1: So you started watching Compton Linnwood, that's how you see.
Speaker 3: You get to Linwood.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like ninety percent because now some people that's
Speaker 1: starting to have stuff. You move over to Downy Paaramount
Speaker 1: probably a lot closer to sixty percent. Now you're starting
Speaker 1: to see regular people that work a regular career or
Speaker 1: have a good career have some cool stuff that you
Speaker 1: will want. So you see there's options still about fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty sixty percent.
Speaker 3: People do get better too in those areas. Yeah. So
Speaker 3: remember I grew up in Compton and watch my mom
Speaker 3: put me in Pairamun.
Speaker 1: Because they had ap classes. Okay, so that's only ten
Speaker 1: minutes from Compton. Oh it's only ten minutes.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 1: The exit from my neighborhood right when Imperial Courts and
Speaker 1: the seven is at is Womington. The next exit is
Speaker 1: Long Beacht. The next exit is Garfield. That school is
Speaker 1: off Garfield. Oh okay, but it's it's a world away.
Speaker 1: So Paramount, you know, Paramount and Downey you know, I
Speaker 1: mean Downey start having some really nice shit. Downey is
Speaker 1: like Mexican Beverly Hills. I mean that, like, they'll have
Speaker 1: some shit. So you get you the more you move east, right,
Speaker 1: you start seeing regular people have things worth having. So
Speaker 1: you realize that these things are obtainable by doing this,
Speaker 1: by doing something good, not doing well, doing something because
Speaker 1: you don't think nothing is good or bad. You don't
Speaker 1: think of the d boys bad and wise. You don't
Speaker 1: really that nigga just havn't it. I mean you start
Speaker 1: to realize it to age where you realize. You get
Speaker 1: to an age we're like, oh yeah, this is bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But by then you way deep.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean you just.
Speaker 1: Kind of know it's against the law. But again, growing
Speaker 1: up around here, the law never ooo your life. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You can change to do whatever you want
Speaker 1: to any time. Lords you didn't get stuck in prison
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Well, again, you you're trying
Speaker 1: to be successful, so you you feel like your options
Speaker 1: is limited because there's only as far as you can see.
Speaker 1: How about that, Pete, does that make sense? Your options
Speaker 1: as far as you can see for most humans?
Speaker 3: Is that agree?
Speaker 1: That fair lunch table? Your option is different as far
Speaker 1: as you can see.
Speaker 3: I agree?
Speaker 1: Right, So you move there, boom, you move further east.
Speaker 1: Now you over here in Paramount. Now it's about sixty
Speaker 1: forty sixty percent of people doing the wrong things got
Speaker 1: the coolest shit. But there is forty percent of people
Speaker 1: doing some regular shit that got some all right shit.
Speaker 1: You move further west. Now you're in Lakewood. Now, Lakewood
Speaker 1: is seventy thirty thirty percent of the people doing the
Speaker 1: wrong thing got some cool shit. Seventy percent is people
Speaker 1: doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: That's in Lakewood. Just in Lakewood. Yeah, the place I
Speaker 3: ain't that.
Speaker 1: The place they got a fence around the store and
Speaker 1: stuff which target or something like that. No, okay, that's Paramount, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something about it. Right, So Lakewood is like the seventy
Speaker 1: thirty seventy percent of the people doing the right things,
Speaker 1: by eyes have the coolest shit. Only thirty percent. You
Speaker 1: get the bellflower, it's pretty much ninety ten, eighty twenty
Speaker 1: ninety ten. Most people that got the coolest shit doing
Speaker 1: something that's legal. You can see it. You can see
Speaker 1: what they do. It's gonna be obvious. They got the
Speaker 1: coolest shit. And ten twenty percent of people gonna be
Speaker 1: doing bullshit. Shout out to my homeboys from seven oh
Speaker 1: six hustlers, Like it's gonna be ten percent. The rest
Speaker 1: of the people got some cool shit. You get the Soritos.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if people doing the wrong thing
Speaker 1: in Toritos. Like there's really no place to go in
Speaker 1: Critos where people is doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody got nice shit and they all do
Speaker 3: some cool shit. How far Cerritos from Watsa Compton.
Speaker 1: Fifteen fucking minutes, it's straight up to You could take
Speaker 1: the one five with no traffic.
Speaker 3: What is it Pete.
Speaker 4: Stick's exits with no traffic. It's very cool.
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: It's it's basically just about the six oh five interchange
Speaker 4: about them that's Norwalk but is right there off six
Speaker 4: oh five.
Speaker 1: They got a mall there, how about that? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get to Lakewood and Toritos, there's malls there.
Speaker 4: They have a studio.
Speaker 1: When it was down there Stignal Hills. So where my
Speaker 1: studio was at was in Signalhood. That's Long Beach, but
Speaker 1: that's this particular roped off area that's not about Lakewood
Speaker 1: going because I thought I used to go through Lakewood
Speaker 1: Lakewood Boulevard Street, Okay, So Hill is like you ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to be there as a nigga. They q you
Speaker 1: like the police like that's how much that's all suburb Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's different. So that's my point. I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: how you size up success and what you think you
Speaker 1: can see and be and do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying is like that's what makes
Speaker 1: street urban culture is when you feel like the wrong
Speaker 1: because all you know is the wrong thing is a
Speaker 1: way to have something.
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: So if you go up in Watts Compton, man, what
Speaker 1: every car whatever you want, the wrong fuck is doing?
Speaker 1: The bullet hut got it? It revived me myself. Walked
Speaker 1: through the blocks of this nice neighborhood. Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I think it's a nice day. You want to.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's like it's like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, It's like that's the trick.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying, when you've been trying to
Speaker 1: explain this to people, shout out to Royal Jenkins, Yes
Speaker 1: that is ain't Lakewood where that changed snatch with death
Speaker 1: ron or Land there and say yes, yes, yes, that's
Speaker 1: where that fight happened at. So that's where everybody from
Speaker 1: the east side would go to the mall. Like so
Speaker 1: everybody from the west side of the One Team right,
Speaker 1: the Hoovers, the neighborhoods, the gangsters day mall was the
Speaker 1: Fox Hills Mall are mall on the east side. When
Speaker 1: you're on this side of the one ten, right, that's
Speaker 1: Long Beach, that's Compton, that's Watts, that's Lynnwood, the Lakewood mall.
Speaker 1: So you would go to this mall to go spend
Speaker 1: some money or look to get in a fight because
Speaker 1: everybody different would be there.
Speaker 3: So it's tricky, man, It's it's hell of tricky. This
Speaker 3: is tricky.
Speaker 1: It really is Long Beasts too, so it's like it's
Speaker 1: like different what I mean.
Speaker 3: So, but that's my point. That's what street urban culture is.
Speaker 1: Street urban culture is densely populated, crime written communities. The
Speaker 1: culture that comes from that. Now that culture can keep
Speaker 1: going somewhere. It's in Paramount guess what they got ship too.
Speaker 1: It's in bell it's in Lakewood a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: in Bellflower a little bit, but it's not in Curritos.
Speaker 1: There is no street urban culture in Toritos.
Speaker 3: Well that's heavy.
Speaker 1: There is none. And with cultures there in ci Ritos,
Speaker 1: it's just mainstream America suburbia. Okay, they got a mall
Speaker 1: wright and smack. There's not even a big place. It's
Speaker 1: a mall, bunch of really nice houses. No, none of that.
Speaker 1: Your urban culture inside the mall. Urban is densely populated.
Speaker 1: So it's a disney populated place. It's very much it's
Speaker 1: disney populated. But even in urban.
Speaker 4: There are in the parking lot of Torito's College.
Speaker 3: It's close, you go get that's close, you gonna get
Speaker 3: to the streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and that's because it's right there by Norwalk that.
Speaker 4: Their sports pull a lot of athletes in from other
Speaker 4: parts of the county. And you never know, junior college
Speaker 4: athletes are a different breed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't come from some yeah ship, we.
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