WEBVTT - Conversations On Why The Culture Is Rarely Wrong

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Senners Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses Malone?

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<v Speaker 3>Do where is everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>H You should see your blind you can see all

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<v Speaker 1>your blind marks on your screen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think it's because the lights behind me

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<v Speaker 4>or something. I don't know it's And then it's like

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<v Speaker 4>when I move back and it focuses on me, like

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of goes away.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been I've been trying to figure out about that

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<v Speaker 4>for quite some time. Probably defaced this situation in a

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<v Speaker 4>different direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I'm not mad at the idea that works.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not another They also sell cotton candy there. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing really special about that. But what if you

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<v Speaker 4>sold rock candy and it came in a little, you know, container,

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<v Speaker 4>like like if you was, you know, buying a crack

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<v Speaker 4>rock single.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that a lot. M I Just the way

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<v Speaker 3>I see it is like.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're asking people to spend their money, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying on hip hop? I mean like in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties it was different, Like like the only way

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<v Speaker 1>you can get street urban culture out of Compton, right

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<v Speaker 1>was when NWA came to town. Yes, fast forward, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forty forty years. They just got so much access to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the concert is more about social currency than actual culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just being the place that everybody says, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the cool place to be. I've heard kids reference that. Now, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where everybody was at. I mean, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>place to be, even if they didn't fit there.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so, and that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you see fans at concerts spend more time. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 4>looking at their phone, filming the fact that they're there,

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<v Speaker 4>and no one gives a flying fuck about the show.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, And you almost can't be mad because social

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<v Speaker 1>media created this thought of it all. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying you You almost you can't be upset because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like social media makes everybody a star in their

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<v Speaker 1>own right. So if you're not making content that caters,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not making content that caters to to the

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<v Speaker 1>audience so they can get engagement on their own posts,

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<v Speaker 1>then they won't really share it with you. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the like the dance challenges are doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, things that create engagement, Like

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<v Speaker 1>people would just make shit up just to have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation going.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't even give a damn if it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been thinking about that as I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>start rolling out all of this new music and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been passing it to all of my homeboys, from Kendrick

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<v Speaker 1>to Problem to everybody. It's like, Yo, the experience needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be very like you have to immerse yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>that experience. You have to immerse yourself in it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know, I mean you have to allow excuse me, other people

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<v Speaker 1>to immerse themselves in that experience. So like, like this

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<v Speaker 1>video I'm doing for this song I'm about to put out,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an idea about a court case, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to make it real, Like I have to

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<v Speaker 1>take it from just being entertainment and then making it

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<v Speaker 1>real life.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a few different ways to make it real life. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But then so that's the video, right, But then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even setting it up that needs to work with the

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<v Speaker 1>actual video, right, So the pre roll out to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual single in the video being released, right, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to set it up to where you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it caters to that it needs to be again, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make it to where people that want to

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<v Speaker 1>support your shit can immerse themselves in it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then even the.

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<v Speaker 1>Posts Brod, I like, because this idea, like for this

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<v Speaker 1>video is like about a court case. Like even the

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<v Speaker 1>party I'm gonna do after or the live event I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do after is more or less like a party

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<v Speaker 1>that's rooted in the same thing. Like it's all the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the way, and I think it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be all of the way. I mean, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be all the way, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be all of the way. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>to get going with this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to the whole lunch table fast. What's the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>No cut squish, Nick klip Monette, what's heading a tree?

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<v Speaker 3>Watch that my low? Everybody down the arin?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's your definition of culture? I got you?

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<v Speaker 1>Lex Derek's heading him? My definition of culture. Culture is

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<v Speaker 1>just lifestyle, right, It's the way a group of people live.

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<v Speaker 1>Culture is a lot more rooted in location than everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>What up there? But that's the same conversation, right, It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>People want the whole thing, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>They want the whole thing, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>They want you to really entertain them.

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<v Speaker 1>People are demanding, you know, they're demanding full experience for

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<v Speaker 1>their money.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's either whatever. It's either.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us a full immersed like let allow us to

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<v Speaker 1>immerse ourselves completely into this cultural thing that you that

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling us whatever this perspective and culture is, or

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that's gonna just benefit us, right where like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody can post it on their Instagram and get comments

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<v Speaker 1>and likes, because that's all it really is people want

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<v Speaker 1>their own engagement. They don't just want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of your engagement. Now they have to maintain their

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<v Speaker 1>own platforms complete with their own engagement.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like you have to see it all the

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<v Speaker 3>way through.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to for the latter, and people like to,

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<v Speaker 4>I think be part of either the first or the few.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I mean like there's a limited number of

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<v Speaker 4>seats of a concert, That's why I think people posted

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<v Speaker 4>they're there.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was.

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<v Speaker 4>The grocery store would be quite such an event, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And people like being the first endo a thing always well.

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<v Speaker 1>So as an artist, I can't really speak for other

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<v Speaker 1>artists for me, but as an artist, right, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a big thing to me is making sure people that

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<v Speaker 1>support me look good or look relevant. Like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I want to achieve as an artist

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<v Speaker 1>is because I want people who support me to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like their God got it all sure, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like now, I don't know if that makes me unique.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also have a hard time with using the

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<v Speaker 1>word fan I don't think anybody's a fanatic of glasses alone.

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<v Speaker 1>That just sounds asaline and I guess because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a fanatic of somebody. I was telling Manny today, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Kanye, and Kanye was talking. He was

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<v Speaker 1>complaining because he felt like no blacks labs were speaking

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<v Speaker 1>up on his behalf, you know, with his children, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, saying his children were being indoctrinated

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<v Speaker 1>by this white woman and his culture and and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>speaking up. And he said something to the effect at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the tweet was like, he said something

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<v Speaker 1>to the effect of like, oh, well, I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>people feel like I had this comment or I knew

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to happen. And Manny was saying, how

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<v Speaker 1>did he know this was going to happen? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>because the woman you were saying with your dream woman

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<v Speaker 1>was already indoctrinated the same way like she she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really value morality, That wasn't her cornerstone of value, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Or whatever her morality is. You

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was different than than how we grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>You grew up anywhere like me. So it's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>type of mother did you think Kim Kardashian was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be? You know, did you not think that she

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna have her kids online? No? Did you not

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<v Speaker 1>think her kids were? And again, like I don't quite

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<v Speaker 1>know everything. He knows that's their father, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So, but you know what, which part of

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<v Speaker 1>this is there's nothing that's happened so far that has

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<v Speaker 1>left my expectations on the type of parent you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian is you know what I'm saying, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't quite know, you know what I mean, Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly did you thought was gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't And I don't know enough to see

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<v Speaker 3>why he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Complaining just yet, Like I think they posted a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of his oldist. She was like, I think the auntie

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<v Speaker 1>posted the picture and said, oh, you know, she looks grown.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like she didn't look grown. She looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid, you know, maybe with makeup on. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's send him over the top. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think some of it is disingenuous, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And that's the thing about I like

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<v Speaker 1>about the lunch table, Pete, and I like about talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, like, you know me pretty decent, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. You have a good idea of who

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<v Speaker 1>I am, and you know most of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I do are genuine, even if I'm not able to

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<v Speaker 1>carry him out. When I'm saying it, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to do it. Or if I

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<v Speaker 1>speak it, I really believe it, right, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to correct me at times or give me more

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<v Speaker 1>detail or anything, like, I genuinely believe it. So, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter which platform, since I got into this business, ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine point nine percent of the times, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, ninety nine point nine percent of the times,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is genuine.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's like I just genuinely think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of disingenuous thoughts to what he's saying. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's he does things to sway the general public to

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on the side. It's like he again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a marketing savant, but sometimes you can see right

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<v Speaker 1>through the dumb shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he seems kind of to me. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 4>like your typical arsenal with a fire extinguisher.

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<v Speaker 3>Arson with a fire extinguish it. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he goes and starts fires and then comes

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<v Speaker 4>down with a superman k pulls out the fire he started.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't The scariest part is to believe

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<v Speaker 1>he genuinely believes the shit he could be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that scares the fuck out of me, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what if he really didn't believe this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of mother she was going to be?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I mean compared to what.

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<v Speaker 3>M I don't know. I genuinely just don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I I don't know, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't quite know what he feels like. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's what I didn't really care about

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest albums is like I felt like they were

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<v Speaker 1>just generic and straight through.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they were. I think they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were scientifically executed to matter to people.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what I mean, Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's kind of Back then, he was more

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, preoccupied with the musical part, and then

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of rapping so that he could be the

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<v Speaker 4>guy with his name on the thing, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. I don't think he was necessarily preoccupied that

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<v Speaker 4>much with as he is now. I think he transitioned

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<v Speaker 4>out of being like I'm going to showcase my ability

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<v Speaker 4>to create music, and then I'm going to showcase my

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<v Speaker 4>genius world perspective into manifestations in various ways and outputs,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's not even it's about music much anymore, as

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<v Speaker 4>so much as assists this avant garde outside the box thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, showcase he's perpetually involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's the point, like flushing an idea

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely in no so when I'm doing it, I almost

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to get into the character right.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost have to be able to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>character right, Like I'm stuck having to get into the character.

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<v Speaker 1>So like being you know, on the dawn of probably

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<v Speaker 1>like some of my greatest stuff in hip hop is

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<v Speaker 1>like damn like I had to Not only I used.

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<v Speaker 3>To always say an adhd shout out to Lex from

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<v Speaker 3>that community, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to always say, like hip hop is we.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized that in twenty fifteen. For sure, even

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<v Speaker 1>before I completely understood what hip hop was at a

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<v Speaker 1>basic level, I always knew it was we. But even

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<v Speaker 1>now more in twenty twenty five, I understand the responsibilities

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<v Speaker 1>more than ever. Of week I was, I did the

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<v Speaker 1>community Monday with Pun and Ad and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>telling them, like just talking to him and reinforcing to him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like reinforcing to them like, man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>your role.

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<v Speaker 4>Same thing with.

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling t Real. I'm like I was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to both of them. I'm like, this is your role.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, This is your role. This

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<v Speaker 1>is your role. I mean, this is your like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to. So I think that's why artists like Tupac

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<v Speaker 1>is so Artists like Tupac are so great, Artists like Snoop,

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<v Speaker 1>they represent a great movement, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And they understand we like ice Q to me, was

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<v Speaker 1>supreme at understanding we. Sure, I mean years year, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, he always understood week. So like

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<v Speaker 1>taking this and then making it WE but then really

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<v Speaker 1>embodying WE in every aspect culturally, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that we And you know when I say culturally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking specifically on street arimon culture from Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But then they do have connecting points.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at at connect they do have connecting points, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ghet or to get it's certain things that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the same in the ghetto of Queens and the ghetto

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<v Speaker 1>of Memphis is going to be certain things.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling this tear from a man's perspective, How would

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<v Speaker 1>you feel? How would I feel about what? Know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a man, how would you feel if you couldn't see her,

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<v Speaker 1>have her say your kid's life? That would just never

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me, Like that's the point of being an

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<v Speaker 1>outlaw teer, Like that just wouldn't happen to me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Like I'd be in prison, That'd

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<v Speaker 1>be the only way I would be away from my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>or in the morgue, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not the Law's not gonna tell me how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do my thing. That's just not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just depends on you know, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>person you are. So again I'm not here to judge.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you parents, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how she you know, mothers, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how she parents.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like shit, again, he's bringing a private conversation publicly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, marketing branding himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's like I don't quite know what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going on behind the scenes, and I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you this much I looked at that

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<v Speaker 1>picture and I didn't think much of it. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think much of it. Well, Ms Tea is

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<v Speaker 1>not fair to say help, because my help was do

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<v Speaker 1>not marry this poor ass woman. Don't marry this woman

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<v Speaker 1>who is mora really low. I mean, that's the help.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you do it, you got to help yourself, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Tia. Like my mom, when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to sell drugs, right, that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I sold drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom tried to hit me with her car. She

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<v Speaker 1>busts my mouth wide open. She did everything in her

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<v Speaker 1>power to make sure that I didn't sell drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I hid it from my dad every time I probably

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<v Speaker 1>went to jail for selling PCP, probably somewhere six to

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<v Speaker 1>eight times. You know what I'm saying, six to eight times, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never called my mother or father from jail, never,

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<v Speaker 1>not one time, because I knew they did not want

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<v Speaker 1>me selling drugs. I knew they did not want me

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<v Speaker 1>selling drugs. You can't cry wolf when everybody told you

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<v Speaker 1>do not get with this woman. Every last person said,

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<v Speaker 1>do not get with this woman. Even the reasons he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the woman were probably not great reasons to want

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, even comparing him comparing the woman of his dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, to this white woman who was like morally

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place and had a bunch of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rumors and gossip out on her, said that the things

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<v Speaker 1>that was motivating him were just weird, Like why would

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<v Speaker 1>you select the woman based off of those things? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see her sex tape? And you know with Ray

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<v Speaker 1>jam was like, this is the right woman? You feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like? What about Kim Kardashian pre you getting

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<v Speaker 1>with her? May Cus think to himself, this is who

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<v Speaker 1>I want to marry and have children with.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that and of itself is like the Kanye

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<v Speaker 4>experience in the microcosm. It is it's extremely narcissistic, and

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't understand clearly the separation between the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>an image and the practical implementation of the idea behind

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<v Speaker 4>it in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to think what was the things going

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<v Speaker 1>to his mind that made him look at her and said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the woman of my dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he thought about it like that. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he thought this woman solidifies the image of my

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<v Speaker 4>dreams for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>See, but I don't even think that. It's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that and you know what, this is an

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<v Speaker 1>issue I do have with the world. It's crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the Sign of yesterday listening to rocket Man

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<v Speaker 1>and just realize rocket Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Is about drugs. Oh yeah, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Where this is the scariest thing, right. Kanye represents this

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<v Speaker 1>generation of people that genuinely are just motivated by things

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<v Speaker 1>that the public say is cool, like the mainstream public, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no way you feel me.

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<v Speaker 3>You look at you look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and especially where she was at and thought to youself, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the woman of my dreams. This is my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's like if you saw a porn star.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Joe Yea. He was blinded by the

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<v Speaker 3>money and fame.

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<v Speaker 1>His father was a black panther, so it's no way

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<v Speaker 1>he kept his morals and values from his parents. Wasn't blinded, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>this was his thoughts before that. He said as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>as a young young teenager, he had Marilyn Monroe posters

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<v Speaker 1>on his wall. It's not money and fame blinding him.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked her, But I think he liked her and

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<v Speaker 1>wanted her for every wrong reason.

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<v Speaker 3>That you want a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to be an icon. He wants to be

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<v Speaker 4>a icon. He's preoccupied with just pure how big and

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<v Speaker 4>how bright can the star be and everything else. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he realizes he has to live a daily

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<v Speaker 4>life in between all those iconic moments.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I think I give him the most

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<v Speaker 1>credit as a as a talent. For me as a talent, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he understood what it took to get in position.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the greater people to ever come through

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<v Speaker 1>this space that we call hip hop and really know what.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he knew the type of woman that would make

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<v Speaker 1>him more popular, he knew the type of music he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to get black people behind him, he knew the

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<v Speaker 1>things he needed to say. Everything about him is planned.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew exactly what needed to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look at even from to take Marilyn Monroe's example,

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<v Speaker 4>the two best baseball players of that era by far,

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<v Speaker 4>Ted Williams, thank you about.

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<v Speaker 1>The Snaka King. Know we've been working walking this whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>He wait till the halftime show then just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>bringing me into something else. That's what I've been saying though.

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<v Speaker 3>Good leading.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, that's not something else you just asked, he what's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>I like that strategic crescendo that you applied to.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuckhole.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm late, you guys. You know he ain't

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<v Speaker 1>sorry late. He was in here the whole time. Yeah business,

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<v Speaker 1>But instead he was like, I ain't gona miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just pop in when I want to pop in.

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<v Speaker 4>It.

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<v Speaker 3>Thas man looking sharp though, look at me as a

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<v Speaker 3>bad picture, don't they?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible.

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 4>But I think fifty sixty years later, how much more

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<v Speaker 4>iconic is Joe demag Jo than Ted Williams for baseball

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 4>players that are virtually eye to eye, And the difference

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<v Speaker 4>was one of them was tied up with Marion Morroe.

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<v Speaker 3>Thebauchery. Yeah no again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think these are the conversations about, you know where

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of culture keeps you grounded. You know what I'm saying.

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I think these are the things that keep you grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>The street irving culture keeps you grounded because it's no

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<v Speaker 1>way possible you was thinking about that when you decided

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<v Speaker 1>to when Couz decided to turn that woman into a housewife,

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<v Speaker 1>that is none of nothing about being black nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>street irving culture. Nothing about that for me, has anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he understood what it takes, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pop icon, and he knew that the

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<v Speaker 1>pop icons that he really looked up to, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way they did their things.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he comes off the magnitudinal spike and transition of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, pre and posts Beyonce, jay Z and he

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<v Speaker 4>probably got a little over el I'm gonna find the

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<v Speaker 4>next most famous chicken. She's gonna be even more I

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<v Speaker 4>wanna say, controversialists, but like more, you know, conversationally.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to d and the Shah Man was love

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<v Speaker 1>chump Dog. What up y'all told us to deal?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, Like I said, I think I believe in hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop in another way than most people, even some of

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the greater and more successful talents that have came through.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I believe in it in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I genuinely believe in street urban culture in

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<v Speaker 1>a much more unique way way. And I think some

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<v Speaker 1>people it's funny because we talked about post Malone.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about that and not.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sad baby the dude, you're wrong, you sign that

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<v Speaker 1>song of fisetto because we talked about people who use

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop to move their themselves into these gigantic pop spaces.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm, you know what I'm saying, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You said you use hip hop like a stepping stone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's very clearly what we're dealing with in

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<v Speaker 4>this case.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, but no, he trying to kick the stepping

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<v Speaker 1>stone over so nobody else can step on it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I don't like. That's what bothers me.

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'll be investing in it, don't wait till

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you that made your business. Now, the next generation of kids,

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't want them to invest in Nation struggle because

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<v Speaker 1>you for sure ain't signing nothing from the street.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.959
<v Speaker 1>You ain't signing nothing from the street. Cause not signing

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<v Speaker 1>nothing from the street. He not signing nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>The closest he got to signing something from the street,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Cauz was like push your tea and pushing t was

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<v Speaker 1>already a platinum BAC at that point, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Which I don't know. But it's funny because

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>he's been complaining this whole time about the kind of

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>people around, and it's like, you got a bunch of

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>people around that's just like you. Yeah, you know, you know,

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.239
<v Speaker 1>like itself. That's why you really don't like hisself. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm starting to believe, very true. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>My late topics is Okay, Yeah, I think it's no consideration.

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<v Speaker 4>You deprived the audience of twenty six minutes of this insight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, huh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. He

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>was talking so much shit about people, but I mean,

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>this conversation wasn't really about ya.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 3>It just went there based off of that.

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But the point I was saying initially before we made

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<v Speaker 1>this right turn down this dark alley, is that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I do think works for him as as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a brand. He goes all the way through that motherfucker

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>does not stop. I think it only works for us

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<v Speaker 1>because as a black hip hop culture, we just say

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<v Speaker 1>we don't give a fuck no more. Whatever he do

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>he do, we don't go up against him. We just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, whatever, dude.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's but that's how outside of maybe somebody punching

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<v Speaker 1>him in the face and him having a squabble as friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really the only thing it should We shouldn't be

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to silence him. We shouldn't try to silence an artist.

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>But that's why I said, that's why it works for him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know if that's why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this is I don't know. I think if we

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<v Speaker 1>try to silence him, it'll just be an explosure or

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>implosion with him. But since we don't, he just freed.

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Just like a firecracker, he just blasting where he won't well,

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he should be able to m That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I said it works for him. I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you came from the culture and tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do what he do, it wouldn't work. But the

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<v Speaker 1>culture will step up and really have some words because

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you come from the culture. He come from the street

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>urban culture. Since he doesn't. That's the difference. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>it works. Would be tripping about him.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why it works for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny, No culd, I have no cured like shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the homie No culd that Nigga said, I'm crying,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he said, g to your point, we yeay might be

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<v Speaker 1>the most me fan me first man in hip hop history. Yeah,

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that's true, that's true. Shout out the dog walk. Why

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<v Speaker 1>does he need violence on him?

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Not?

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Y'all gotta stop thinking a fight is violent.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that scares me sometimes about this new age of thought,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>like fight don't always mean violentce somebody need to kick

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>your ass.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you need to be disciplined.

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you need to know there's consequences that can come

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>with offending people. What happened with violence? Yeah, it's like love.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it is violence and is really laming dictionary.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But culturally speaking, everything is not just violence. Violence is

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>going too far. That ship is like a discipline.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's my issue with like that. We're in a

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 4>generation where we're on the other side of established case law,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 4>you know. So like like my dad's generation talks about

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 4>getting fights into Yeah, you could get in the scuffle.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe, that's not years ago. Now. Fight does not lead

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to lead all, dearity, where do y'all come from?

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>No, it don't either.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Y'all haven't been in the fights that y'all talking about

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>places y'all not familiar with.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Every fight does not lead in the lead.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>The community ain't into that disposition, you know what I'm

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Just statistically true. I mean like the number of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's way more for yourselves versus number of severe assaults

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 4>or not one to one.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not close. It's not every fight leads to it.

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you gotta just y'all gotta stop being so fucking

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>scary and so timid. Every fight doesn't lead to that.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's Kanye's biggest problem is nobody punched him.

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<v Speaker 3>In his fucking mouth.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Like he can say anything, He can say what he

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>wants about this person. The reason I don't just say

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>anything I want to say is because I have to

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<v Speaker 1>decide if this is worth defending, like which level it's like,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>it's okay he can't say what he want to say

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and it shouldn't be against the law. But that don't

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>mean no body jay Z should punch him in his

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<v Speaker 1>fucking face. That's really what should happened. Don't fuck his money,

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>whoop his ass? He need ass whooping. A ass whooping

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>might really set him back straight. Yeah, but he might

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>turn around sue for sure, you got right. You need

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a poor motherfucker hit him in his face.

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<v Speaker 3>He might soon shout out the dibord bag photography.

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned a lie from getting punched me too, and

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and and that's it's one of the greatest teachers. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But y'all gotta stop. But and

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and and dog walk forgive me dog I know you disagree,

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but this is sometimes why, like I have to know

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>what's better and not listen to y'all. Y'all, y'all are

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>way too scary and ridiculous. You know what I mean.

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to some things that humans need, you

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>can't just say what you want to say and don't

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>think you go get your ass whipped. That's okay, It's okay.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Somebody should whip Kanye as that's the one thing street

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>urban culture should agree with all of us say. Kanye

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>needs to get his ass whooped. That's okay. I'm not

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>saying we need to let people jump on him. I'm

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>not saying we need to five or six of them

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that. I'm not saying you're scary dogs. I'm saying

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>scared of something happening to him. He'll be okay. But

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, like, that's how you really decide how

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you're going to proceed when you know the consequence that

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>comes with it. Right, now Kanye does all of this,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it feels like, Okay, I have money, there's no consequence, right.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And it started simple. He started defending the people that

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 1>gave him the money.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Right, And a lot of this does reek of femininity

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 4>in the way that it's being presented and all of that,

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 4>and that does have to do with a life of consequences.

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Joe ge. Tupac thought he could just

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>throw hands as well.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 3>You know the result.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>No, Tupac and friends beat the ship. Seven people beat

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the ship out of somebody. They was lining him up

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>with kicks in the face. If that man would have

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>went over there and started a fight and they fought

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>head up, he wouldn't have shot his motherfucking ass. But

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>that's different though, He's not different. No, he started off

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>saying that Tupac had hands. We're not saying Kanye got hands. No,

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he said he could just throw hands as well.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 5>No, get out of him participation that, but that he's

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 5>talking about the specific incident that that that's.

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:38.959
<v Speaker 3>Responsible for him dying.

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It was nine people that kicked the ship out of

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>him with hard bottomed shoes walking through a fucking casino yeah,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>them niggas was getting shot.

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>They okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Phanto, what's up, hey boy, welcome back

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to the nuns table. There are people who get punched

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>on the end up with brain damage. It's a tight rope, glasses,

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, but you should know that.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 4>This is the point.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you could before you were talking, this would happens.

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>It gets your ass, will.

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 4>Suck the consequences out of the room.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Shut out to I am miss Tia. It's not scary.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You can't just punch on grown people and think nothing

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>coming after that. Miss ta out and punched on a

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of grown people and if some come behind it,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that's fine too, But you can't be that.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 4>All that aside from a cost benefit of analysis in

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 4>the macro, there needs to be a consciousness of the

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 4>risk that your own behavior has no you know, responsibility

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 4>to to to your own to to the people that

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 4>you're behaving at, you know what I mean. Like the

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 4>few times where somebody might come back and do something

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 4>that cost is outweighed in my opinion, by the complete

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 4>and total disregard for personal conduct now that people have

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 4>because they know the cost is So that's my issue

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 4>with like, you know, if you clock somebody at a bar,

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 4>now you're probably getting arrested. You probably gotta you know,

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 4>you might get sue all the rest of it. The

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 4>cost of intervening on something that used to be a

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 4>low cost, it's not very high cost. So not the

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 4>only people that do get into fights are fucking maniacs.

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 3>So no, I disagree that they have to be maniacs.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm just listening the one percent of people that are

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 4>willing to take on that cost. I say you're a maniac.

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 4>It's like a relative to like it used to be,

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 4>fifty percent of people might be willing to do something,

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Now one percent are because you know, I'm gonna get suit,

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go to jail. Most people don't want to

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 4>do that. So to say I don't give a fuck

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 4>suit going to jail, it's a very narrow strip of

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 4>the population that.

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>The economics has to play with. That shout out to KWA.

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Majority of folks give yill. Now, that's why nobody fights.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Didn't go right to gun play. It's way more fights

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>than y'all think it's happening. I think those be those

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of reckless talking points because you looking online, I

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>see fights all the time. I rarely see shooting. I

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>see fighting. I see fights down there once a month. Somehow,

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.919
<v Speaker 1>you don't really see shooting, you know what I'm saying,

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not as often as you think. And I think

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that's his issue. I think Kanye or not just him,

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's a lot of rappers who be jawjacking. It's

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who be jaw jacking and don't

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>put themselves in a position to be accountable for what

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>they saying. You gotta say what you want to say.

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Like one thing I pride myself in, I'll say what

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to say about a motherfucking be right in

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the room with that motherfucker. But that's also why, like

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, when I was arguing with Coach a couple

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of streams agoing, I was telling him there is nothing

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that I said that I wouldn't say to Drake. Now again,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not I'm saying like I wouldn't. I never called

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the man out his name on Twitter like I ain't.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Never was like a bitch ass nigga. Never If I say, man,

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that's some sucking shit, you going to the legal system,

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>cause the nigga, dish you and you sewing. I was

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>tell him that to his face. If I say, man,

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you lost that battle, you got smoke, nigga, he's a

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:09.919
<v Speaker 1>dead aut. I would say that to his face. If

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I say whatever I'm saying, I would say it to

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<v Speaker 1>his face. And this is a nigga that's okay with fighting,

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. That's that's with fighting. I

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>still just don't go around saying shit because I can.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't go around back when he's a bitch ass nigga, ain't.

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't do all that. If I think you're a

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>bitch ass nigga, I'm just gonna fire on you in

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that way show you. I'm not finna call you out

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>your name. I just don't talk like that. We're gonna

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>fight if that's the case. So that's what I'm telling Coach.

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I know when it is disrespect because, like you said,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I would have no problem if if if somebody came

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>on this No Salious podcast telling them exactly what I'm saying.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean talking what exactly I'm saying, like

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>saying exactly what I'm saying, like all read all my tweets,

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like anything I ever said about a rapper or Drake

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>or anybody else. I said to them right there, I

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think it would be a fight. Now, that's not

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to say that person couldn't get upset and so in person,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's not. But I don't want it to

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>not say it's not a fight because he's some kind

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 1>of not he's that nigga's a man. So I'm saying

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't feel like I offended him. And if he'd

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>be like, man, I didn't get smoked, Like that's a

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>difference of opinion. If he say, man, gee, you putting

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>up dead ass. Man, I'm teasing your fans. Y'all lost

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 1>a battle. He know what I'm doing, because know what's

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>up with me. But again, it's like, even if I'm

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>explaining to him why he's not hip hop, are you

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna he want to fight me over that? Nigga? You

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>disrespect me?

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 3>You saying I'm not hip hop?

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Fuck No, I don't give two fus about that ship.

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you'll fight anybody over anything. I think

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to turn into something else of disrespect. I'm

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>sure he would fight motherfucker over disrespect me. He a man,

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 1>got a Penish. So I'm sure he'll fight a man

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>over disrespected him. But I'm saying that's what I'm telling, coach.

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I haven't because I'm the type of person

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say something like when I'm saying that Kanye.

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Even Kanye is a little bit more heightened specifically, but

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I still wouldn't. I don't think there's nothing I said

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 1>because period, you feel me that I wouldn't say to him,

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I would cuts him out.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:21.879
<v Speaker 3>We probably I actually want to fight.

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I actually would want to fight him because you know

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>why how somebody you support so much and they just

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>hurting your feelings here, coach, if you listen here about

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>to fall off the fence to fight. No, for sure,

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to fight Kanye. Yeah. I don't want to

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>hurt Kanye, not like I want to put him in

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the hospital, Like I don't want to destroying, but I

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>really want to punch him, like beat his ass for

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>tough love. Yeah, like you got us look at crazy

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. What is you doing? Why are you doing

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 1>this shit?

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Bro?

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Stop being so fucking selfish because think about us, Think

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>about tie, cause you got tied over there. You know,

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 1>these people writing his checks why would you do that?

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? He being a bad homie.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>He go out to everybody every day, go out to

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody sick, and it's like, you feel me, like, cuz,

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck? Where's the weed? How is this about you?

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Cause you are fucking Kanye Wes Cuz fuck you already

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 1>got you you out of shoe as popular as Geordan

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>because you can't even wo fuck nigga shit, that's funny,

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Like fuck man, you know what I mean. So I

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would want to fight him because he's in my top

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>five cousin. I love this nigga. I would want to

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>punch his ass, you know what I mean? I would.

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>You know that hurts my feelings, but not like I'm

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>mad I want to hurt him, But I really want

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to punch cuz it shot out the dog walker. He

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>don't owe nobody nothing really, that's true. But I do

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like he owe me dog and that may not

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>be right. This is the emotional side of it, and

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I could admit it so just so you can notice

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the difference. This is the emotional side. I disagree with

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>all that he has gotten in life. He owes something

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>it may not need nothing, Yeah, but he owes society something, appreciation,

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, beating something, all that. I mean, owe something,

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>even if you respect them people in real life. He

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 1>doesn't owe anybody anything, but neither do I. I don't

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>owe you nothing but these fucking hands, you motherfucker.

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Why no, I will respect until you disrespect me.

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I just really want to punch. Like we could just

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>take a little squab in the backyard, like even he

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>might win. You never know, like we be talking shit,

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>put hands on the nigga, But at least I feel

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>better about the ship you talking.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I need to see because I need to see.

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>You gotta show me, bro, you talking way too high power,

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>because you gotta.

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Show me we're trapad for this one.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>No ready, man, that nigga got show me cause you

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>talking way too high power. There's way too many bitch

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>ass niggas coming out your wealth punk ass niggas, all

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>this coming out your mouth. Cuz I need to see.

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 3>We're going to Japan next week, Pete.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>See. Yeah, I need to see because I need to see.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I need to see. I need to see because I

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>need to know you better handle yourself because all this

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 1>high power shit, you jaw jackie, Because I need to

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>see show me. Can we step out here, because I

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>got about ninety seconds for you, because real quick, that's

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>all I need to get. Because once I get the

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety seconds, then I'm gonna know right off the rip.

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Gim me right off the back, like like the Homi

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>four extras just came home, right off the back, because

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna know right where you at with it. I

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>need to know where you at with it because if

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I still don't, cuz he like, why did you do that?

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Ah? I quit? This is gonna be on TMZ that

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:52.760
<v Speaker 3>you put an offer out the fighting.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to fight. Yeah, I say this is

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be on my other fucking feelings. You got me

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>looking crazy and bought all these goddamn CDs to spend money,

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>your motherfucking acts up here making us look crazy, and

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>ship wear this fucking kool club clan out talking about

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you pissing.

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Off these people the whole fucking minute of some time.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You just talk bad about different black people wearing a

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>ku Cluz clan outfit. Yeah, I need the slide cut

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 1>tip tips for cut hands and tips.

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 4>That's fair, that's fair.

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Don't hit him in the jar man, I'm for sure.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>No I just slapped that job. You know, I ain't

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna slap him slap like I slap him in a

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>bad jall come, but like I wouldn't try to because

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hurt him as much as I

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>want him to know. You need to say this knowing kind.

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't just go from zero to death because he

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about some and and don't try to send your

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>goons to kill me. No, they need to send one.

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Person to whoop your fucking ass.

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. You ain't said that. And the

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>thing when that cool clus pointing at the camera talk

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>on some you know, don't try to send nobody to

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 1>kill me.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 3>He really think he liked that? Huh man?

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God and he might be and I

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>just don't know fee me. But what I am saying

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is I need to see. That's the one thing about

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>l A Street ever culture. When I first came out

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>rapping niggas was like, yeah, glasses, niggas had to see

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>niggas found out real fast. It's gonna go that way

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>every time. I'm okay with that, you know what I mean.

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>But a fight ain't gonna hurt that nigga. Man, and

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree you right, it's a simple fight. And and

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and it be at least a fame with a nigga

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that ain't gonna try to really hurt him. If it's me,

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really gonna try to hurt him. I'm just

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna punch him cuz what you out here doing? Like

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and if he do any of that, oh man, well

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>why is we fighting? Cuz that's why you shouldn't be talking.

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>See that that changes it now when you gonna talk

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to him hitting him, that's how I fight, you know,

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>because that's a different level of a fight. Yeah, that's

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>how I fight. I don't fight, man, I don't fight mad.

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't get mad. I'm not finna do all that.

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Some people could take that, you know, and talking down

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>disrespect you, I'm not. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna be

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>explaining him why why would you marry this bitch? And

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>now you mad at us?

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he ain't gonna call your shots?

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not. I'm not.

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about Mohammad Ali.

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know, I'm just telling this motherfucker as you

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>got us out here looking bad, because you need to

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>stop doing this so punk ass ship. Then if he

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>talks ship. I don't got nothing else to say, because

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point, you took some punches to be able

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to say that.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he didn't take your good shots though.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>No no, but because I wouldn't hear kinde past then no,

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>no task because he gonna feel everything I throw. But

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, you know what, and it's not fair.

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like he olways to represent her

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're going for hip hop culture.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Who his ass?

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>That's how we got whoopings in syllable. Oh god.

0:47:58.640 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Yo.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Not to do this shit, mother fuck up.

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 3>Fact.

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, And I think that's all

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you need. You know what I'm saying, like not to

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>hurting nobody. Shit. I don't want nobody to hurt Kanye

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>bro like and I know a lot of people that

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>get mad at me. Bro.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't even want him to be in a hospital.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 3>You feel me, I agree that.

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Dad, Dan said, I'm projecting my personal feelings.

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I think I feel like this for all of hip hop. Dn.

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I think me and hip hop are in agreement that

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this is how we feel. He said, for sure, you

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But now I was saying this

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to say that. I think culturally we have to take

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the whole that's the whole thing. I think people want

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a full experience, and I think you know the people

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>out there that the public endears themselves to our people

0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>at this point that are looking to give them a

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>full experience. Now, once you get to the top of

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the mountain is different. But until you get to the

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>top of the mountain, they'll take a full experience without

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>even people that's good at making music the longest it's experienced,

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>people supporting it. Long as they believe you about the

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 1>shit you say you about, they gonna support you. They

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>don't even Like I was telling Coach that day, he

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was telling me, like post the fuckers don't know what's

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>good music. Who the fuck got tied to know you work?

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>If a motherfucker work as a fucking pharmacist, what the

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>fuck do you know about music? All he know is

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>what he like or don't like. And that could be

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of messages shout out to Don dub name

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 1>another free black billionaire that never compromised to get to

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>that level.

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 3>That's calling out the bullshit.

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.280
<v Speaker 1>He what do you mean he didn't he of course

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>he compromised he talking about the people that paid him,

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody that paid him, Don, that would be the compromise

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was them people favorite friend until his

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>deal was up. What do you mean, what do you

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 1>mean shout out to Dan? I didn't say that Dan.

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't jump that way. But I think because he

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>acts like he is, he should be in trouble. Of

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>course he compromised Dan. That's the biggest Don, that's the

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>biggest problem. That's my whole issue is the Wait a minute, nigga,

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>You was these niggas favorite partner in the world. You

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>love these niggas. You never said none of this shit

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.479
<v Speaker 1>when you were signed to the label. You were signed

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to these people for He was signing UMG through death

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Jam for years, since two thousand and three, all the

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>way to twenty twenty one. What are you talking about?

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>He did it deal with the data's knowing who they was.

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>He did it deal with everybody knowing who they was.

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 3>But he said name of Vin here. That didn't compromise.

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, name another free Byron Allen. Again, everybody is gonna

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>have to do business Byron Allen with.

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 4>Other people if they were to made a found Yeah.

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.279
<v Speaker 1>No, he's doing the Weather State. He owns the weather

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>He's the comedian, the black that's comedian. He about the

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>weather station's fighting with cable TV because they won't to

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 1>let them get some stations.

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, He's fighting them guys right now Byron Allen.

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>It's called being fake in industry. But look, I get

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it that now. I don't know y'all know how many

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>records you had. I don't know how many people in

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 1>this industry. Is your friend as somebody who've been in

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>this industry even now, you know, probably on the verge

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of doing another deal right all this. Look, these people

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 1>are transparent. All these people transparent. You know who they are?

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Even all these people names that y'all starting to hear, Lucian,

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The people ain't really They're not like these people that

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you think they are. Don't let the type of social

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>media fool you.

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Like.

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>These are some people sitting back and all these niggas

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 1>was friends, all these people's friends, and it wasn't like

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they did something. All these people do the same thing.

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>None of these people fake. Stunner Man ain't fake, Lucier

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>not fake, Elliot not fake. None of these people fake.

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.479
<v Speaker 1>None of these people fake. None of these people fake.

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.279
<v Speaker 1>All these people regular real people. You know, me and

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you in business with him, So it's not like Kanye

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>played a role to get somewhere. That's who Kanye is.

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>He looked up into him until he thought he had

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>as much money to him, and then he still look

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:22.439
<v Speaker 1>up to him. He's just mad right now. You don't

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>got a record deal. He ain't said one of these

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 1>things when he had a record deal. That has nothing

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to do with fake. I mean, I don't I don't

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>know if he's faked for turning on the people he

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>made money with.

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man.

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they just spent a lot of time gassing

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>people up and just making people get behind bullshit ass movements.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>That's certain, you know what I'm saying. I just I

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>think alvanized. I think they understand how to galvanize the public, right,

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>they know how to more mobilize people. And then he

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>don't really have a real plfe that's the problem. He

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:07.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have a real life.

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 4>He does.

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Real play.

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 4>His real plight is the fact that he can't handle

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 4>being himself inside of his own head.

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Hold on Don Dave, so a nigga can't look behind

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the curtain and change his strategy. Yes, shut out to

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>byron Ella. Don he been behind the curtain since two

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 1>thousand and four. He didn't say nothing until he wasn't

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>behind the curtains in twenty twenty two. Don, you're not

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 1>being honored, You're not like you know what, I get it.

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Nigga genuinely want to be down with that dude, Like

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>he's a brilliant man. He in my top five. Shit,

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't order, I can't say shit. But also I

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 1>ain't going for the bushit. You can still be in

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>my top five. And I talked shit about his motherfucking

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>dog ass Fuck that nigga, you bush it. Hell no,

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 1>you didn't look behind the curtains and change. He didn't

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>change no strategy. He just mad. This is the best thing. See,

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have to do all this shit when he

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 1>was signed to the money. When he was signed to

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the to the machine. The machine got enough money to

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 1>put you everywhere at once, let alone a nigga like

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 1>him doing some dope ass shit. They could put you

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 1>everywhere at once, and then you could exposed some dope

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 1>ass shit. You know what I'm saying. But at the

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, he understands this is the only

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 1>way to get the same type of press. And really,

0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in this really crazy way, he's really showing you the

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>power that you could have as an independent artist.

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of right. I was about to sales, like,

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 4>is it that or is it that he isn't at

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 4>risk of, you know, getting a contract canceled, so now

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 4>he can say that for he wants.

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>What's funny is it's like he never looked behind the curtains.

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>He didn't see what is it? What would he be

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>mad at? What could a dude be mad at? What

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>could you I was signed to a label again, this

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is this would be my third or fourth record deal?

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck could you be mad at? What could

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you if you're a real hustler, bro, what the fuck

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>could you be mad at somebody else? Spending all that

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>money they give you twenty five percent?

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean he doesn't perceive risk appropriately.

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Like percent.

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 3>You don't spend a dime, you go ten million to

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 3>do what you want to do. I like to know

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:32.839
<v Speaker 3>the risk be of that deal.

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 4>The risk is you don't know if his product is

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 4>going to make more money than it's worth you or

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 4>not as the money holder, and then when it does,

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 4>he thinks I got screwed because he doesn't understand before

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 4>it's been determined that it's worth it or it isn't,

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.800
<v Speaker 4>there is risk, and risk has a premium price.

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're right, especially because of record contracts. You're right.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean even shoe contracts. How, I mean how

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:01.839
<v Speaker 4>these shoes had this guy sold?

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, shout out, he's a lame. He's the only

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:15.399
<v Speaker 1>child Sybil. Shout out to be bra. He said this music.

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 1>He's about controversy, you know what. Yes, but he's a

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>marketing savant, but he's not grounded. He's not rooted in

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.399
<v Speaker 1>street ur been coaching. And that's the thing where it's

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>like you will throw us under the bus. God damn

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 1>oh y'all being mad if I wear this Nazi shirt,

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>But if y'all talk about fighting and shooting each other, nigga,

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that is not what the Nazis did. The Bloods do

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.719
<v Speaker 1>not do what the Nazis did. I get that. That's

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>a lazy take. Yes, people die at the hands, but

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 1>one group of individuals are in a fight, and.

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 4>I hate that he you know where it's where he's

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 4>missing it. It's like the Nazis on their eastern front

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:03.479
<v Speaker 4>fighting the Russians out of the concentration camp, in which

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 4>case none, They're just any other combatant.

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny, Crazy shout out to be crazy.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 1>He said he hates his own He always have. Charlamagne

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 1>said the same. He's been telling me that for years. Crazy,

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and I fought him, and I think you're right.

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right.

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe I'm saying Kanye West is like George Bush,

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think he really does hate George.

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 3>George Bush was genuinely like what the fuck? George Bush

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 3>look hurt the first one, the second one.

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>The second one, he looked genuinely hurt when he was

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>like I remember seeing his face and I was like, oh,

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that's real.

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 4>I've heard from from people like that, are you know,

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 4>like think tankers that are way inside of his zone

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 4>that he was really bothered by that, Like personally.

0:57:55.920 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 1>If you saw his face, he was like, I was like,

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I think this motherfucker wouldn't.

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:04.959
<v Speaker 3>Have this you're talking about.

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>So Kanye West on a telethon where he was raising

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:13.439
<v Speaker 1>money with Michael Myers, the actor, and they were talking

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>about Katrina.

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 4>This is around Katrina powers.

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Michael Myers, Yeah, I think that's h and Kanye was like,

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 1>George Bush doesn't care about black people, and it was

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like I remember thinking, like, damn, that was some solid ship,

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. George Bush ain't helping obviously,

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about politics. Yeah, so it's a bunch

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of politics and how the federal government helped state. Now again,

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know because I don't know the power. This

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 1>is more pete state that he knew about politics. But

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing George Bush face and I was like, damn,

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>he looked like he really was bothered that this motherfucker

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>said that that he don't like blacks. Yeah, And thinking

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 1>about it now, I think George Bush still be like

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>bitch ass.

0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 4>Now that's why he's friends so much with o'baf names.

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah what Michelle like cry out her shoulder and ship

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 4>like that.

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to tree.

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he hates that we don't act the way

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 1>white people act towards us, towards them. You know what,

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that because I think he just like

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he said, he wants to be mean to white people.

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 3>That's what he's.

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.479
<v Speaker 4>Says towards us, towards them, the way white people act

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 4>towards white people.

0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>He said, I think he hates that we as black

0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>people don't act the way white people act towards us

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:40.919
<v Speaker 1>towards them.

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 5>So like with this, I don't believe that because Catastrophe apologized.

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I know he's always everything about loves white people. He

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 1>loves white people like everybody he talked about, he loves

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 1>white people.

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 3>So he wants black people to love white people like

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 3>he do know he So this is what And I

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 3>don't think Tree is right.

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 4>He wants white people to not like white people.

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 1>He wants he wants black people to be racist towards

1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:13.080
<v Speaker 1>white people. That's what I said. Oh that's what he

1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was saying. He thinks he wants. But I don't believe

1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that Kanye loves white people. Kanye love white people. He's

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>genuinely loves white people. He loves white people. And for

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 1>years Charlotamagne told me, I'm like, man, this is Kanye West.

1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:33.560
<v Speaker 1>He can't be He was like glasses. His affinity for

1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>white people is absolutely scary. It's a comfortability for him. No,

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:41.720
<v Speaker 1>he just it's greatness. He only can see greatness at

1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:43.919
<v Speaker 1>the highest level in white people. And I mean, don't

1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:46.360
<v Speaker 1>be wrong. There are some pretty awesome, great white people

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in America. I mean, Walt Disney is pretty great, Ralph

1:00:49.040 --> 1:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Warren is pretty great. Like, there are some great white people.

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's just weird for us because it's like we've

1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:58.400
<v Speaker 1>been taught, especially like he's like almost a little older

1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>than me. Like maybe by the year or two we

1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 1>were taught to find black people. We had like we

1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 1>ain't in the forties. We have some pretty dope brothers

1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 1>to look up to. You, I mean, sh Niggas, Magic Johnson.

1:01:11.680 --> 1:01:14.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got some all kind of dope brothers,

1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Malcolm X at that point, Martin Luther King.

1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of dope brothers. And he was like,

1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to be Walt Disney, I want to be

1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Steve Jobs. I want to be in my dream woman

1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:30.040
<v Speaker 1>is Marilyn Monroe in the eighties, well, in Janet Jackson's eighties,

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in Holly Berry's nineties.

1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 6>So there's any way to confirm how is the finest woman?

1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.600
<v Speaker 6>That statement, how is the how is the woman of

1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 6>your dream? In the same era as Janet Jackson's eighties.

1:01:46.920 --> 1:01:50.160
<v Speaker 4>Here's here's here. Here's my personal opinion on that statement.

1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:51.560
<v Speaker 3>He took a dead woman up.

1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was.

1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:58.160
<v Speaker 4>When he said it to be provocative. I don't think

1:01:58.200 --> 1:01:59.040
<v Speaker 4>that it was true.

1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's true.

1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I think he said it. You think it was true.

1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:05.080
<v Speaker 1>He actually said he got his dream woman because she

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>was the modern day Maryland Monroe. No, he wasn't playing.

1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>He's serious. So he just wanted a hole because that's

1:02:13.920 --> 1:02:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what Maryland was, and he got it.

1:02:17.880 --> 1:02:20.440
<v Speaker 3>But I think he saw Marilyn Monroe listen.

1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:23.280
<v Speaker 1>So there is a there is a there's a thing

1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:26.439
<v Speaker 1>specifically about him that I think he sees past these

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<v Speaker 1>general consistus things like the term hoole.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>He quite But I think because he's not as anchored

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<v Speaker 1>in street urban culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong. It's in Chicago, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>But his Chicago in it is like in Chicago is

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the blackest places.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've been in Chicago, nigga. It's like nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago is like nigga, that's fuck soul, that shit blues, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>It is black black. Yeah, Chicago like outer space black

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<v Speaker 1>like Chicago and Detroit. Yeah them ship's black. So but

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<v Speaker 1>also I think his mother and a professor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, raising him in different environments, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep his mind free so she could cultivate something special.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived on campus with his mom. He lived in

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<v Speaker 1>a like a suburb part they moved. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>probably stayed on him with good programs, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, like she was, she was on her ship.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think somewhere along the line, he just started

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<v Speaker 1>to see things in this very general sense, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>like more like Malcolm, more like Martin Luther King. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a dream, you know what I mean, more like

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<v Speaker 1>he you know what I mean, And he had a

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<v Speaker 1>dream like and I think that's the creed of his life,

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<v Speaker 1>is like I had a dream. You feel me. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I get it. But Malcolm X died when

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to the mountaintop. It makes sense now since

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you know what I'm saying, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. I think he's always had this

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<v Speaker 1>thing where like white people like, it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be raised. And forgive me for lack of better term,

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<v Speaker 1>for give me for a better term of saying white

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<v Speaker 1>people like. I hate that word because it can't it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about every person. It means that the ship weighing

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<v Speaker 1>down on our head. It's like he saw Walt Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>Is fucking great, Steve Jobs is fucking great. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>These are some great men and.

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<v Speaker 4>Some a little impolite that I'm projecting out of what

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<v Speaker 4>I think might be in his head. Sure, there's just

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<v Speaker 4>because of size and scope of markets and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of capacities. I think he perceives there to be an

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<v Speaker 4>astrocis like because I remember watching something one time back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day where he said Michael Jackson was bigger

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<v Speaker 4>than Black.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, all these same people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well OJ wasn't big like Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson, my dad and himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigg is Michael Jackson biggas Jordan's in America movies.

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<v Speaker 4>All the people that's social and transcendent.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the people, all the people like my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're too young. JA was like a really

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<v Speaker 1>big big deal. Him and Jim Brown like way different

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<v Speaker 1>than we see it because I think we got the

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<v Speaker 1>version of O j we got is a little bit corny.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was out there, but not like how

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<v Speaker 1>they saw him. He was like this, He was Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan of his time. He was just over the top athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>running back from colleague proes. He went to sc right

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just like, so, I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>this big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. To be honest with may, I think he perceives

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<v Speaker 4>there to be an asterisk of you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal for a black guy kind of kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing. And he thinks, I want to be the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest period, you know, so, and I think that for

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<v Speaker 4>that reason, he goes, well, this is a from a networks,

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<v Speaker 4>who are the five for just people in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>those guys, I want to be richer to that or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the fuck it might be. You know, like it's

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<v Speaker 4>preoccupied with that, you know what preoccupiers trying to transcend

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<v Speaker 4>any preconception in his own mind, of his own limitations

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<v Speaker 4>of perception by the public.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how his mom raised him. That's what I

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<v Speaker 3>was ready to say to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if she's wrong, Lord knows, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no right. I'm not even a parent, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>a parent of Donda West's level. Like it's a she's

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<v Speaker 1>another level of a parent. She another level of a

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<v Speaker 1>sister rest her. So she's a she's a top notch

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<v Speaker 1>type of person to raise this boy to think he

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<v Speaker 1>could be you know, whatever he wanted. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you are supposed to raise your kid that way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but you supposed to raise your kid also knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>they are black. And that's the balance.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if she didn't do the ballance.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's right, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's right. I think this is what

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like when it's not over instilled in you

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<v Speaker 1>that you're black.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if she's wrong, because maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>does limit.

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<v Speaker 1>You, you know what I mean, Maybe it does, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, like he has a disdain for blackness. Let's just

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<v Speaker 3>call it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hold on, I'm glad we're having this conversation because

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<v Speaker 1>now y'all pushing my thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also because black in America has been limited

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<v Speaker 1>this whole time. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say that again, pot me. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>think he has a what was the word he said

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<v Speaker 4>about He said equality? He said doesn't like black people

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that, Like, what was the word that

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<v Speaker 4>the king used?

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<v Speaker 3>Disdain for black people?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think he has a disdain for the preconception

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<v Speaker 4>of of limitation that goes along with that. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think he dislikes the community. I think he I think,

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<v Speaker 4>if anything, he's trying to separate himself from the greater perception.

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<v Speaker 4>In that regard, he wants to be if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to be Steve Jobs, Like, how many of those all

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<v Speaker 4>time are there for you know, in that level five ten?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's it's it's it's bigger than.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>At that point, you're just a novelty act. And he

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of think wants to be that to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, I don't know him from a hole

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<v Speaker 4>in the wall. I don't really follow what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But but he has no love for the black culture.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like, well, because I think I think what

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<v Speaker 1>it is is, well, he has love for black art

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean maybe not how because again black

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<v Speaker 1>culture is such a lazy term, the street urban culture,

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<v Speaker 1>let's use that then.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because that's not his thing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he might have probably pursued getting into a

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<v Speaker 4>different I mean, unless he's That's why I think his

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing is just self righteous fan, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I think he if he really had, like that much

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<v Speaker 4>of an issue with black culture and his own identity,

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<v Speaker 4>he would have gone and been, you know, just a

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<v Speaker 4>pure fashion guy or gotten into gone to college and

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<v Speaker 4>tried to be like a violin player or an orchestra

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<v Speaker 4>conductor or some shit and do something completely different. Just

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<v Speaker 4>didn't just completely just go away as far as he

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<v Speaker 4>possibly could go, which I don't think he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to DT, what up can y'all doing way

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<v Speaker 1>too much? YEA realized that there's another door he can't

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<v Speaker 1>get into. Yeah, all of us knew that.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that before I started walking in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Lucky Lawrence from Chicago, tough combo for

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<v Speaker 1>blacks migrating. We always wanted to be included in their institutions.

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<v Speaker 1>That was truly the end of UH. That was truly

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<v Speaker 1>the ending of Black Wall Street is when they created integration.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also probably is the worst thing. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Roughie and TV going hard she did. Kanye is

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<v Speaker 1>just laying he doesn't hate black people, he hates the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of being black.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that dissimilar to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to be Brace sellout. Yeah, looking crazy, you

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<v Speaker 1>calling him uncle Rutgies. No, that's probably a push, not

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Ruggies. Don Again, I think we're having the right conversation, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know what's like, there's a scene. No

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<v Speaker 4>one's gonna know this. I'm a total Seinfeld nerd. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>people might know that, but they're not going to know

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<v Speaker 4>this aspect of this particular part of Seinfeld. George Costanza

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<v Speaker 4>in the show was never viewed as a guy with

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<v Speaker 4>any character whatsoever in any way, shape or form. At

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<v Speaker 4>one point in time, he's dating a girl's got a

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<v Speaker 4>kid to have a birthday party, and at the birthday party,

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<v Speaker 4>something in the oven starts to burn, so their smokes

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's a fire. He throws all the kids

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<v Speaker 4>and old ladies out of the way to save himself.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't hate everybody at the party. He just he's

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<v Speaker 4>He's just all about George.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be the black version of everything white

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<v Speaker 1>and great name brand says, and that's what I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the I don't think he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be the black version, wants to be white.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think he wants to be the biggest and

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<v Speaker 4>he perceives the two or he perceives if not being

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he perceives white to be the greatest.

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<v Speaker 4>He perceives there to be a connotative stigma with being,

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<v Speaker 4>like like you could be the greatest black person and

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<v Speaker 4>you're still, you know, not the greatest of all. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's trying to just alienate himself from from that

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<v Speaker 4>and then so he's throwing out the baby with the

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<v Speaker 4>bath water.

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<v Speaker 3>So to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>He's more like Tom dub than Uncle Rutgies. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I like that. I'm not mad at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut out to Kiki, welcome to the lunch table, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why Glasses can't accept Kanye is just

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<v Speaker 1>a square and been square until he got some bread.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man shout out to p hate speculating on how

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<v Speaker 1>a man feels. So I say he acts like the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that has been hurt or rejected by a woman

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<v Speaker 1>and takes it out on every man after as I

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<v Speaker 1>see he treats the coach or I'm crying. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at that. I'm not mad at that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>really could be, but you know it's funny. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's him and Drake. I think Drake. I think Drake

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<v Speaker 1>has declared war on black women because like somewhere along

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<v Speaker 1>the line, the black women didn't see him in that light.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as he got in that light, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm fucking all of you bitches nothing, all

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all. Mouse, Yeah, I mean, I'm not feinna marry

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<v Speaker 1>none of y'all. I'm not finna get no baby stilling

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all. But it's punishment, and I think, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Sugar Free said that. Sugar Free said that about himself

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<v Speaker 4>and his own words.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to shout out the Kiki. Those are great

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<v Speaker 1>points together, you know what I mean. When you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, I think, but I've been saying this for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, right, I've been saying this for a while, Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a group of modern people over the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years that have came into this business and

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<v Speaker 1>declare war on the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they have like they are mad. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like they can never sit at the cool table, and

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<v Speaker 1>they like, now that I'm here, I'm finna get all

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<v Speaker 1>these niggas out the table. Like it's people, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>people trying to It's people trying to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>certain people off the streets like gang members. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, right, that it's happening. And it's like they

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<v Speaker 1>declare war on the streets and here we are, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it seems like it's happening. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>even Kanye like, I hate I hate street niggas in

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<v Speaker 1>y'all street niggas. Why why are you generalizing that? And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean y'all street niggas? Like when is that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? He be like, fuck y'all

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<v Speaker 1>street niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>What did he want to get beat up?

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<v Speaker 1>Why niggas the streets didn't do nothing you, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take nothing from you. What the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the problem. And now you look

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<v Speaker 1>every day and certain fans of certain artists, right, they like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all think y'all cool. Y'all think y'all cool. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like that shit really happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it fair to say that this all ties up together?

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<v Speaker 4>And that he hates the fact the guys from the

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<v Speaker 4>street have the potential to damage his imation, his perception

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<v Speaker 4>at large from people.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody from the street was trying to damage.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't mean they're trying to do it on purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>Just their simple existence in the way that they do

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<v Speaker 4>things threatens his great perception that he feels he is

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<v Speaker 4>due from the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, Pete, I'm not the credibility. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the credibility of being like.

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<v Speaker 4>These here making themselves look stupid. It makes me look

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<v Speaker 4>stupid because people see them and see me. So they

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<v Speaker 4>did like that whole thing. So I just hate them

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<v Speaker 4>all together. And everything they do, everything they stand for,

1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:39.280
<v Speaker 4>everything do, everything they stand for, reflects negatively on me,

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<v Speaker 4>my association and in that whole you know, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>literally think that his entire concept of a good day

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<v Speaker 4>or a bad day is how glorified versus not glorified

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<v Speaker 4>was I today?

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<v Speaker 1>That's just kind of how I went to cornballs who

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<v Speaker 1>never had a voice in school. Now we know why

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<v Speaker 1>fucking cry oh man shout out to p He talks

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<v Speaker 1>about it in his early music in the constant reminding

1:16:16.479 --> 1:16:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he was the backpack polo wearing etcetera, etcetera. It's clearly

1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a chip on his shoulder, that is true. He do

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<v Speaker 1>be mad about that, and it's like.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, yeah, ah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what I'm struggling because I just thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>His mom could have raised him, like my mom shout

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<v Speaker 1>out told Olivia Restaurer's soul. We could have moved to Lakewood,

1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:52.519
<v Speaker 1>and she moved us to Compton, to the Richland Forums

1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:55.920
<v Speaker 1>in Compton. The forums are like an affluent black It's

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<v Speaker 1>as affluent as you can get in Compton. They's still Compton,

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<v Speaker 1>still Compting, but it's as affluent as you can get

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<v Speaker 1>in Compting. And I remember my mom telling me this

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<v Speaker 1>at like four or five years old, and it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I was right at forty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember my mom told me forty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, y'all couldn't moved yaut of law, but

1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I wanted y'all to have a black experience, right. That

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<v Speaker 1>was something I remember her saying to me at five

1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>years old, like you know what I mean, And she

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<v Speaker 1>understood that I needed to see myself as a black man.

1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think some parents are raising their kids to

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<v Speaker 1>not see themselves as black men. I agree, and not like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to sell out type of not seeing myself

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<v Speaker 1>as a black man, but like, no, you could do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You could go out and do anything, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think Dnde's wrong, Like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>if that's how she did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I'm speculating. I don't think it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But then because blackness, like I always say, like being

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<v Speaker 1>humane Pete right is you're aspect and care for other humans.

1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Blackness is your same thing for other black people. So

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<v Speaker 1>like I could imagine think about it, right like, I

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<v Speaker 1>had all ap classes, my grades. If I would have

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Lakewood, I would have probably had this

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<v Speaker 1>weird look towards black people, like, oh, we could all

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<v Speaker 1>make it. I made it. I'm black versus like being

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<v Speaker 1>a gang banger, right like. And it's weird because I

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<v Speaker 1>never growing up. I didn't really want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>gang banger or I didn't even think about it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just the homies. That's where I grew up at.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand why God pushed me through that path

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<v Speaker 1>because it made me have a different thing for other brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized everybody mother wasn't like my mother, every like

1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:47.839
<v Speaker 1>my homeboy. Some of my homeboy moms was on drugs.

1:18:48.000 --> 1:18:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Some of my homeboy dads was in prison, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, And it shaped their mind different. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was always you know, I was always conscious and

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<v Speaker 1>sober enough to see everything, and I was never scared

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<v Speaker 1>to ask questions. And I realized that everybody didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same even though we all grew up houses next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. My dad lived in wives one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeenth Street, my mom lived in the Forums. All

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<v Speaker 1>of our experiences were different, and I could see how

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<v Speaker 1>theirs was way more painful, everything way more painful. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's why I stand up so hard

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<v Speaker 1>for the streets. Like when Sherry or certain people say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, y'ah, I'm not having that. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me because I saw this with niggas. I saw

1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the world beat them down. I saw the world beat them.

1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I saw the world beating my homeway Moto dawn rested.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw it. I saw my own eyes. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my mom fed him, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because Sue was going through what she was going through.

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<v Speaker 3>He had it harder than me, He had it harder

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<v Speaker 3>than I did. But don't you think he's old enough

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<v Speaker 3>to not have his mom influence If it's going the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong way, like it's negative, you know, connotation, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's negative.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I don't think it's negative

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<v Speaker 1>what Kanye was going had going on, even even right now.

1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's negative. I think he doesn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>understand how it's like, you have the.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing about hip hop negative feedback though.

1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he can also conflate that with people misunderstanding

1:20:24.720 --> 1:20:26.080
<v Speaker 1>his messaging by.

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<v Speaker 3>Standing on with his mom raised him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be well again because he's pursuing his own greatness. Blackness

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<v Speaker 1>is pursuing our greatness, and it ain't aspirational. It's not like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I did it so that that now every black

1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>person can see me doing it. My mom raised me like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you help niggas, You help people. So his mom wasn't.

1:20:52.200 --> 1:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know because Donda is that's not my brother.

1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Donda didn't raise me.

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<v Speaker 3>But his actions, he's not helping niggas well.

1:20:58.760 --> 1:21:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's helped a lot of needs help to niggas,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, but I'm saying he has to understand he

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<v Speaker 1>represents us. I don't think it's negative or positive. It's

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<v Speaker 1>offending me because I want him to represent other poor

1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:17.920
<v Speaker 1>black people. But maybe that's not his representation. Maybe he

1:21:18.000 --> 1:21:20.679
<v Speaker 1>represents I don't know who he represents. I think Kanye

1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>just represent Kanye. But I think hip hop consistently is

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of poor people in those communities. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to represent.

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<v Speaker 3>It, give a voice to it.

1:21:31.600 --> 1:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And so when you're doing stuff that you know gonna

1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:36.879
<v Speaker 1>affect somebody's grandmother, and when you're putting on a cluekluts

1:21:36.960 --> 1:21:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Klan and you know you doing this, I think you

1:21:40.160 --> 1:21:42.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of losing, you know what I mean, the plot.

1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:46.120
<v Speaker 1>But that may not also be his plot. That may

1:21:46.160 --> 1:21:49.880
<v Speaker 1>not also be his dilemma. That ain't what he owned. Now.

1:21:50.479 --> 1:21:51.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't gotta like.

1:21:51.400 --> 1:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>It, but I still don't think we should Oh he

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<v Speaker 1>should be ignored and we should kick him out, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, I don't think that's the point.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

1:22:00.160 --> 1:22:01.240
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his mom wasn't wrong, Like he understands what

1:22:05.320 --> 1:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Disney is great ort Disney is a great person. I

1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know who the fuck Walt Disney was. It's

1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a fucking TV show in a fucking movie or a

1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>film company or or a channel. I mean, he actually

1:22:17.080 --> 1:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>knew the motherfucker that inspired the channel. You know what

1:22:19.600 --> 1:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like I've only oddly, I've only looked up

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<v Speaker 1>to great black people my whole life. I have never

1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>looked up to a great white man until I got grown.

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<v Speaker 3>Where the god.

1:22:32.960 --> 1:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Pete, I never had one white person I looked up

1:22:36.080 --> 1:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to until I got grown.

1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:39.720
<v Speaker 4>One't happy to have broken that streak.

1:22:39.479 --> 1:22:42.720
<v Speaker 3>For you, true pet because you're definitely one of those

1:22:42.760 --> 1:22:43.280
<v Speaker 3>white people.

1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, like, Nigga, I am a magic I'm

1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a Showtime baby. The coolest white man was pat Riley

1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:55.559
<v Speaker 1>my life, Eddie Murphy, feel me, Martiny du King, Malcolm

1:22:55.760 --> 1:23:00.519
<v Speaker 1>x x clan n WA, feel me my dad, my mom.

1:23:00.560 --> 1:23:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, you make me feel old. Man? Stop stop?

1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:08.640
<v Speaker 4>You didn't think that Kirk was the coolest guy in

1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:09.160
<v Speaker 4>the NBA?

1:23:09.800 --> 1:23:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bridge of his glass.

1:23:14.120 --> 1:23:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Feels looking showtime. So you get what I'm saying, Like,

1:23:19.560 --> 1:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I grew up looking up only two black people. The

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<v Speaker 1>first white man I ever have respect for that wasn't

1:23:26.520 --> 1:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>around like because it was black people.

1:23:27.960 --> 1:23:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Because you know, white people with black people they go

1:23:29.960 --> 1:23:33.000
<v Speaker 3>to they apart. Who wasn't the way there? Who was it?

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<v Speaker 1>The first? I want to hear this when Larry Bird retired.

1:23:37.360 --> 1:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>It was Larry Bird, yeah, because I was like.

1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:42.920
<v Speaker 4>When he retired, yeah, bird was over.

1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Either back was bad. His back was bad.

1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:48.040
<v Speaker 3>You feel me. I was like, man, that was a

1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:48.439
<v Speaker 3>good thing.

1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you can start the size up competing

1:23:51.720 --> 1:23:54.639
<v Speaker 1>and you like they was competing, and it's like, damn,

1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna miss this cracker. Larry Bird was the first

1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:01.360
<v Speaker 1>white man I ever them there in Hollywood, all the

1:24:01.439 --> 1:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>rich Larry Bird was it no yet? Because I saw

1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>movie with some white people, like I remember seeing Robin

1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Williams playing popa niggas Popeye. I was Williams was.

1:24:11.080 --> 1:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I grew up with pop I.

1:24:12.000 --> 1:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Didn't understand acting nigga. That was poppy. So every white

1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:19.519
<v Speaker 1>person Kelly from Breaking, but it was Kelly from breaking

1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:23.360
<v Speaker 1>their movie. They're not real people. Okay, they're not real people.

1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Larry Bird is. In the early nineties, I knew Larry

1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Bird was a real man. He wasn't necessarily one that

1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was around brothers. I mean that that's not kind of

1:24:33.040 --> 1:24:35.519
<v Speaker 1>how I saw him. He's the first white man. And

1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>then as I got older, my brain could understand whiteness

1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a little different. And then I didn't even make it

1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the same as black mans. I realized were playing two

1:24:45.000 --> 1:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>different games. Kanye. Don't feel like we playing two different games. Kanye,

1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:51.519
<v Speaker 1>feel like we're playing one game. At least that's what

1:24:51.600 --> 1:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he's doing. I feel like we're playing two

1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>different games. My job is to go out and be

1:24:56.920 --> 1:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the greatest black man I could be, Not to be

1:24:59.240 --> 1:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the greatest man I can.

1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:03.720
<v Speaker 3>There is no room, and a lot of people who

1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:04.640
<v Speaker 3>know me get mad at this.

1:25:05.360 --> 1:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I have to go out and be the

1:25:06.640 --> 1:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>greatest black man I could be. I could never just

1:25:08.640 --> 1:25:12.559
<v Speaker 1>be a man impossible. So if I do one thing

1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to shame black people, like as a whole, and I

1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>know it's a shame like Nigga, that I might as

1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>well not even do that. And I think Yay is

1:25:22.080 --> 1:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>not going out to be the greatest black man. I

1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>think Yay is going out to be the greatest Yay

1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:28.719
<v Speaker 1>he could be. I need to be the greatest glasses

1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I could be within the confines of being a excellent

1:25:33.920 --> 1:25:35.120
<v Speaker 1>black man or black.

1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Man word right there? Yeah that Kanye, that's like his

1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:42.880
<v Speaker 4>number one trigger word cones.

1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but and I'm not mad at that. But I'm

1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:51.519
<v Speaker 1>actually so forgive me. And maybe this is wrong. I'm

1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>actually happy with black confines I never needed. I never needed,

1:25:58.800 --> 1:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't need. What's with no white person? Who the

1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>fuck needs all of that? Now? Listen, I'm not mad

1:26:05.880 --> 1:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>at no brother who feels like they need it, but man,

1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:11.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't need no billions of fuck. I mean we

1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>had this conversation. What I told you, If I made

1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars a year, I'm good. I could take

1:26:16.439 --> 1:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>care of everybody need to take care of. I can

1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>help everybody whatever. I ain't never needed more than a

1:26:21.000 --> 1:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year, so I really never thought to myself,

1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I have to sacrifice no blackness to get there.

1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Zero.

1:26:28.280 --> 1:26:31.360
<v Speaker 4>What's weird to me not the idea of who thinks

1:26:31.400 --> 1:26:34.240
<v Speaker 4>you can you would need all that or even want it,

1:26:35.000 --> 1:26:36.720
<v Speaker 4>but who thinks you can even get all that?

1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you make a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think who right now is equally probably the

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<v Speaker 4>most Who are the two most simultaneously loved and hated

1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:50.240
<v Speaker 4>people in the country right now? You couldn't find people

1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:55.519
<v Speaker 4>by headcount that are hated by more individuals today than

1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump and Elon musk.

1:26:58.760 --> 1:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Yea.

1:27:00.720 --> 1:27:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Even now, I don't look up to either one of them.

1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:07.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying looking up to them. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 4>the idea that, like everyone, I'm gonna be bigger than black.

1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:13.599
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's gonna love me. I'm gonna be like Elon Musk.

1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:15.760
<v Speaker 4>You mean, the guy that fifty million people want to

1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:16.519
<v Speaker 4>kill tomorrow.

1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's funny, but that's the point. I

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<v Speaker 1>never looked up to white people until probably, like my brain.

1:27:29.800 --> 1:27:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Could you know, like I said, Larry Bird was the

1:27:31.479 --> 1:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>first white person like man that that was all right,

1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>white boy. I mean, and I'm reflecting back to the

1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Lakers playing in the eighties.

1:27:38.439 --> 1:27:40.640
<v Speaker 3>They said Larry Bird after like a nigga though he

1:27:40.720 --> 1:27:44.200
<v Speaker 3>be talking shit. He talking about the white boys and shit.

1:27:44.800 --> 1:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I know.

1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:46.439
<v Speaker 3>But I tell you one thing.

1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:50.519
<v Speaker 1>It's like so I would think he grew up like us,

1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like I would have thought he grew up in blackness.

1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't want to be the greatest man I

1:27:53.880 --> 1:27:54.160
<v Speaker 3>could be.

1:27:54.920 --> 1:27:56.679
<v Speaker 1>If I had to be the greatest man, I could

1:27:56.680 --> 1:27:58.479
<v Speaker 1>be and have a billion dollars, or be the greatest

1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>black man I could be and have tien million, I'd have.

1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Ten million dollars.

1:28:03.160 --> 1:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Nothing about me wants to be the greatest man I

1:28:06.680 --> 1:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>could be if it means I can't be black if

1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I gotta sell out any ounce of blackness, You know

1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, if I gotta sell any ounce of

1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>if they tell me glasses, man, I'm gonna make you.

1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I'ma make you have one hundred million dollars. But you

1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>can't say you as a Crypt, ain't gonna happen. Ain't

1:28:25.360 --> 1:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen.

1:28:27.000 --> 1:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I gotta show people that came up the way I

1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:35.080
<v Speaker 3>came up. We could get here. That's it.

1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>That's that, and that's that was the biggest thing. I

1:28:37.720 --> 1:28:41.559
<v Speaker 1>think my mom wanted me to understand. If they said,

1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:43.439
<v Speaker 1>right now, they said, man, you gotta say never was

1:28:43.479 --> 1:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>a Crypt. You gotta this song cripping never.

1:28:47.840 --> 1:28:48.760
<v Speaker 3>No shirt.

1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Every crypt need to know you not stuck when you

1:28:51.520 --> 1:28:55.559
<v Speaker 1>grew up. How we grow up. That's that's important stuff.

1:28:55.760 --> 1:28:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Every blood gotta know, every blood gotta know. Nigga, we

1:28:58.479 --> 1:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>could do it this way. We could be proud of

1:29:00.600 --> 1:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>where we come from. We could do whatever we gotta do.

1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>We could do it the same way anybody else do it.

1:29:08.640 --> 1:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>We don't got to be ashamed. I mean, we could

1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>do it just how we do it. That's what I

1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>be so proud of Snoop about or any of them dudes. Like,

1:29:16.760 --> 1:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what I love about hip hop. I love when

1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I watch Law and Order, like and I told Ice

1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>t this. I love when that screen pop up. It

1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>don't say Tracy Morrow, Let's say Ice Tea. It's a

1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>street name. I love that. That's the streetest thing you

1:29:33.120 --> 1:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>can do. It's his nick street name, Ice Tea. Well,

1:29:37.120 --> 1:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Snoop do something it Olet me be like, yay, we

1:29:38.960 --> 1:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>have Snoop Dogg. Here Snoop Dogg from Lung Beach. And

1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:46.599
<v Speaker 1>he was talking on the Olympics and he was like yeah,

1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>cuz I was like, He's like that remind me the

1:29:48.720 --> 1:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Home of Death, see, because I was like, yes, that's

1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what this hip hop shit is all about. I love

1:29:55.040 --> 1:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>when jay Z is able to tell people you know

1:29:57.360 --> 1:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Oh yeah, I used to sell drugs.

1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Look look where I got it.

1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Because everybody who had these harsh experiences have to realize

1:30:05.560 --> 1:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>they could have a life outside of this because some

1:30:08.840 --> 1:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of us we grew up. That's the first and simplest

1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>way we see being successful. For me right there, that's it.

1:30:14.920 --> 1:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. We go through these super chests, diamondbacks, photography.

1:30:22.200 --> 1:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the five dollars. What's the funny shit

1:30:24.240 --> 1:30:26.519
<v Speaker 1>you've seen while working in the music industry aside from

1:30:26.600 --> 1:30:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Drake's l I know that's probably number one question. That

1:30:31.560 --> 1:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even that, uh, the funniest thing I saw in

1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the music industry stunner Man telling me Erica Badu was

1:30:41.360 --> 1:30:45.479
<v Speaker 1>like a witch. I wanted to get an Erica Badu.

1:30:46.360 --> 1:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I seen her at the MTV Awards, and I mean

1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I had never seen her before. Like she was just

1:30:51.800 --> 1:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the lady that sing all a little like the little

1:30:53.920 --> 1:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>weird old lady. Not weird. Don't forgive me bad terms

1:30:56.920 --> 1:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that you said nothing. She was like she was like

1:30:59.520 --> 1:31:02.639
<v Speaker 1>a like a like a like a like a neo

1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>soul person before neo saw was really a thing.

1:31:05.120 --> 1:31:08.000
<v Speaker 4>She's like alternative to the biggest.

1:31:08.680 --> 1:31:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was just like this black and but when

1:31:11.520 --> 1:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker walked by, this motherfucker was the thickest thing

1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Boy, she don't look thick on TV.

1:31:18.560 --> 1:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I can see why Nigga stops showering fucking with her.

1:31:22.680 --> 1:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I can see why you feel me. This motherfuckerick. This

1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker put together like this mother she put together for real,

1:31:33.280 --> 1:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, Nigga, I'm I'm about to go shoot

1:31:35.960 --> 1:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>my shot. He's like, gee, what you what you got

1:31:38.280 --> 1:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>going on? I'm gonna go get an airbody look out

1:31:40.240 --> 1:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker. Like, I'm finna go run, Nigga, what she's

1:31:43.280 --> 1:31:46.639
<v Speaker 1>not turn bitch a crib from w give me something funny,

1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like what's happening with me? And he was like, nah,

1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:51.599
<v Speaker 1>chill man. I was like, no, I'm finna go get

1:31:51.600 --> 1:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>out of be right back. He's like, nah, chill man.

1:31:53.400 --> 1:31:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I was like wow. He was like, man, she a witch?

1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what you mean she a witch? He's like, no, Nigga,

1:31:58.160 --> 1:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Like she's really like a witch. I'm like a witch?

1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Like what he like?

1:32:02.240 --> 1:32:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Like a witch?

1:32:02.800 --> 1:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Nigga?

1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:05.599
<v Speaker 1>And I looked at him. He looked at me and

1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like serious. I was like, holy Ship.

1:32:11.720 --> 1:32:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Orleans to play the witch card? Huh you got your

1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.120
<v Speaker 4>to be like from New Orleans.

1:32:17.200 --> 1:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't get up and don't do nothing.

1:32:18.880 --> 1:32:20.559
<v Speaker 1>That was the funny. It's funny now, but that was

1:32:20.560 --> 1:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the funniest.

1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:28.639
<v Speaker 3>Like what happened? Like, did you go get her? What happened? Nigga?

1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:31.919
<v Speaker 1>The look in his face, it was like real concern

1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and I was like this nigga is serious. Feel me.

1:32:35.479 --> 1:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what I passed.

1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And we know how you feel about witches in the hood.

1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't go by that house. Shout out to Nick, thank

1:32:43.080 --> 1:32:45.479
<v Speaker 1>you for the five dollars. I'm gonna keep saying that.

1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Kim K Putty and a couple billing definitely change your perspective. Yeah,

1:32:51.240 --> 1:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. Shout out to k Wait, thank you for

1:32:54.439 --> 1:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the twenty dollars. My boy Yay literally said he's the

1:32:59.080 --> 1:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>closest thing to God living irony. Oh okay Yay literally said,

1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is this k with a girl or a god? So

1:33:08.240 --> 1:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the Kwa Yay literally said he's the closest thing to

1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>God living irony. Is his far from grace, is close

1:33:17.439 --> 1:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to the story of Satan. I agree, he doesn't even

1:33:20.439 --> 1:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>realize it. I was just telling somebody that I'm like, man,

1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>when he was talking, he was saying something to somebody

1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I tweeted and I was like,

1:33:28.400 --> 1:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>why does this feel like the serpent talking to Eve

1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and the Garden of Ed Like it was so much true,

1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:36.439
<v Speaker 1>but it was like this one deceptive fact and I

1:33:36.439 --> 1:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, damn, that made me why did that make

1:33:38.960 --> 1:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>me think of that? Him tweeting that to that person,

1:33:41.800 --> 1:33:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and then she's kit saying that's crazy Yay.

1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Creates storms and gets mad.

1:33:46.240 --> 1:33:49.479
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have an umbrella saying thing he said anti

1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:50.679
<v Speaker 1>black is a choice.

1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>He just said the same thing.

1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:54.759
<v Speaker 1>He starts firing, then run with the water holes, complaining,

1:33:56.720 --> 1:33:58.719
<v Speaker 1>set out to Nick, thank you for the five dollars?

1:33:58.880 --> 1:34:02.639
<v Speaker 3>West Coast over every body? Yeah that part? What's love bro.

1:34:07.320 --> 1:34:07.519
<v Speaker 4>Y'all?

1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I do not know.

1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, air was cold. It was cold. Shout out to Beijing.

1:34:19.200 --> 1:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Ain't funniest thing in the music industry was watching Glasses

1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Malone not being able to get off the young money

1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>bench fucking bench warmer.

1:34:26.040 --> 1:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>That's not quite how I went.

1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:29.040
<v Speaker 4>What's the story?

1:34:29.800 --> 1:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, so, so what happens is, so there's a bunch

1:34:33.040 --> 1:34:36.519
<v Speaker 1>of Drake fans, right, they just discovered hip hop in

1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and like fourteen. They don't know, like you know,

1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:43.639
<v Speaker 1>so they like there's people who feel like huh, yeah,

1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't He's like a baby. They don't know. So

1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:48.519
<v Speaker 1>they don't realize I had two hit records. They don't

1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>realize that's not what happened. They don't realize that. They

1:34:51.960 --> 1:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, Glasses just be talking about Drake or

1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like I'm jealous. But again, if you're gonna look at

1:34:57.080 --> 1:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>all my tweets, you can see I always support the

1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>dude and be in this corner until he battled my friend,

1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's different.

1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm rival with my partner. But they don't understand.

1:35:06.160 --> 1:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>So in their mind they're like Glasses didn't even versus

1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>me not knowing, they not realizing. I just didn't know

1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>how to make no music, Like I just didn't know how,

1:35:13.680 --> 1:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I know how to make the art, but I

1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

1:35:16.000 --> 1:35:16.880
<v Speaker 3>What records were.

1:35:16.960 --> 1:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I was a crip. I was a doe e

1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>motherfuck up.

1:35:19.800 --> 1:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Now it ain't close close.

1:35:24.760 --> 1:35:27.280
<v Speaker 1>But I always give a lot of credit to stunner

1:35:27.320 --> 1:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>man in them because they tried their best. I just

1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:34.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't know nothing. They chose me because I was really

1:35:34.600 --> 1:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that nigga for real. It's just levels, like I was

1:35:38.120 --> 1:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>really that nigga for real. So you think they chose

1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you because it's that nigga in the streets, or chose

1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you because you was gonna become that nigga rapping. Well,

1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I think so they understood street urban culture, right, So

1:35:47.439 --> 1:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the level of authenticity that I provide that you

1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get out of ninety nine percent of the artists

1:35:53.360 --> 1:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>in the music business history. So everybody knew that genuinely

1:35:57.320 --> 1:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I was who I was supposed to be in the streets.

1:36:00.160 --> 1:36:02.559
<v Speaker 1>And I had a hit record like I came with

1:36:02.600 --> 1:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>this Akon song certified like I had it. So they

1:36:06.360 --> 1:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, that's good. But when it was time

1:36:08.200 --> 1:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>for them to make me a record, the West Coast

1:36:11.000 --> 1:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>was kind of transitioning. Remember they had kind of kicked

1:36:13.400 --> 1:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody out that they didn't really give a lot of

1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>new people's shots. After Tupac died, the producers wasn't really

1:36:21.800 --> 1:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>working with a new batch of artists. I don't think

1:36:23.920 --> 1:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>they thought they could get them deals like battle Cat.

1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Battle Cat took on the East Sides, but that's a

1:36:28.120 --> 1:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>snoop group. Warren didn't produce anything for anybody else. Quick

1:36:32.120 --> 1:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't produce anything for anybody else. You know, the people

1:36:35.400 --> 1:36:38.599
<v Speaker 1>who are supposed to produce the next wave of artists,

1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>they kind of checked out. Why maybe they couldn't get

1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>them signed or whatnot. So when I came into business,

1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>remember I came in like really by myself, like I

1:36:49.160 --> 1:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was just like this street nigga, you know what I mean,

1:36:52.280 --> 1:36:55.800
<v Speaker 1>straight up, Like, I was just this that's it. So

1:36:56.080 --> 1:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>when I'm signing the cash money, we get a hit

1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>record like Tump made it for me too.

1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Did what you know about that?

1:37:01.880 --> 1:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>For Ti Tump who did good life for Kanye West

1:37:05.040 --> 1:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and can't tell me nothing. Tump is like a monster.

1:37:08.280 --> 1:37:10.479
<v Speaker 1>So again it was like it was a big deal.

1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So when it was time to make the next record,

1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know nothing about making no records though, So

1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I made a living and I don't have to work

1:37:20.400 --> 1:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a job, no regular job, no more. I'm make enough

1:37:22.840 --> 1:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>money to pay bills. But you know, when it comes

1:37:26.040 --> 1:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to actually going on to be the greatest, you have

1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to know a lot about music. Like when Drake came

1:37:30.439 --> 1:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to cast Money, he knew more about records. I just

1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:36.479
<v Speaker 1>now know what he knows about records. That's how he

1:37:36.600 --> 1:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was already ahead of making records, like he knew it.

1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>His team was trump tight, you know what I mean.

1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Forty was like a wizard. Them niggas was cold. They

1:37:46.360 --> 1:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>studied us, remember they studied black music. But he had

1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:52.439
<v Speaker 1>a team though, right, yeah, yeah, I had a team

1:37:52.479 --> 1:37:54.519
<v Speaker 1>toop on My boy quit so the one who would

1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>have knew Guido, he moved to Atlanta. The dude who

1:37:57.760 --> 1:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>did my first project, my boy kind of got tied

1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>chasing this hip hop dream, had a family and moved

1:38:02.920 --> 1:38:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta. I mean, so I came by myself. My pool,

1:38:06.320 --> 1:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't know nothing about no motherfucking records. I mean, nobody

1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>around us knew about records. And then cash Money signing me,

1:38:13.479 --> 1:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I'm a West Coast artist.

1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a different task culturally. So I remember when I

1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>asked you one question was like I don't need South

1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Beach when I got my own beach.

1:38:23.040 --> 1:38:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember when I asked you that.

1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>That was a big thing. Everybody wanted me to fear me,

1:38:28.120 --> 1:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, people always want to blame cash Money.

1:38:30.880 --> 1:38:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Nigga, they did outstanding. They were like great.

1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean so I think, And so a lot of

1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Drake fans feel like like, oh, they feel like that's

1:38:41.280 --> 1:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a di to me.

1:38:41.960 --> 1:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>But again, Drake is like a Nickelodeon kid.

1:38:44.000 --> 1:38:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Man. I'm really from the Marianna trenches, not like them

1:38:47.439 --> 1:38:50.519
<v Speaker 1>regular trenches these niggas times. I'm from really the Marianna trenches.

1:38:50.560 --> 1:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been in the deepest, darkest places doing the thing

1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:56.720
<v Speaker 1>for real, and I'm here. I mean, I'm able to

1:38:56.760 --> 1:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>do this for a living. So it's like that was

1:38:58.840 --> 1:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing to me. So when they talk shit,

1:39:01.600 --> 1:39:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I just laugh because they don't know. I mean, they

1:39:03.320 --> 1:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>just start listening to music the other day. They don't think.

1:39:06.120 --> 1:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I tell you one thing. They don't think. If Birdman

1:39:09.320 --> 1:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>changed my life, and you know street niggas, bird Man

1:39:11.760 --> 1:39:13.519
<v Speaker 1>changed my life, you think for two seconds bird Man

1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:15.240
<v Speaker 1>couldn't call me and tell me, hey, man, start making

1:39:15.240 --> 1:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>fun of that nigga, and I wouldn't. So you got

1:39:17.080 --> 1:39:19.519
<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself. Lil Wayne could call me right now,

1:39:19.560 --> 1:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>say man, don't make fun of that nigga. You don't

1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>think I would. I'm gonna listen to them niggas. You

1:39:23.640 --> 1:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>know why I ain't called me. That's the question you

1:39:25.680 --> 1:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>should be asking yourself if this nigga is so, if

1:39:29.360 --> 1:39:31.919
<v Speaker 1>the nigga you like, it's so cool and he's so righteous,

1:39:32.000 --> 1:39:34.679
<v Speaker 1>and why niggas ain't telling glasses Hey, pipe down, bro?

1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>How much you know percentage wise of the street urban

1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>culture that actually came from, like you said, down and dirty,

1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:49.479
<v Speaker 1>that actually know what that really means? From birth, not

1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>coming in when they was fifteen, not coming in where

1:39:52.080 --> 1:39:56.519
<v Speaker 1>they was twenty, but actually from birth. I mean, the

1:39:56.560 --> 1:40:01.639
<v Speaker 1>whole business is built off of that black music in general,

1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>because I see, like I see a lot of people

1:40:04.200 --> 1:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>come into communities at eight certain ages, and you come

1:40:08.360 --> 1:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>in at twenty one to a neighborhood. Now you think

1:40:10.439 --> 1:40:12.599
<v Speaker 1>you're that neighborhood when you got somebody that was born

1:40:12.640 --> 1:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>in that neighborhood. We was talking about that being the same.

1:40:16.520 --> 1:40:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't look at that as being the same. We

1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was talking about that the other day. I think that's

1:40:21.200 --> 1:40:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the mistake. So you know the mistake. I think hip

1:40:24.320 --> 1:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>hop or street urman culture before the art gives up.

1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:32.639
<v Speaker 3>They sell it to cheap. They sell it to cheap.

1:40:33.720 --> 1:40:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I agree. So it's like a question what.

1:40:37.439 --> 1:40:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Like with regard to that and saying I'm just feel

1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:42.720
<v Speaker 4>like there's a separation maybe or I'm perceiving there to

1:40:42.760 --> 1:40:46.000
<v Speaker 4>be one where like you move into some to a

1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:48.640
<v Speaker 4>neighborhood and you kind of like a you're older and

1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:53.360
<v Speaker 4>you take on the personality of that specific neighborhood. But

1:40:53.439 --> 1:40:55.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how do you equate that, like as you're

1:40:56.000 --> 1:40:58.960
<v Speaker 4>saying it, you know, because I Anmber. My friends grew

1:40:59.000 --> 1:41:01.439
<v Speaker 4>up moving or all over the place, So like from

1:41:01.479 --> 1:41:05.040
<v Speaker 4>a lifestyle standpoint, there really wasn't much change. They might

1:41:05.040 --> 1:41:08.040
<v Speaker 4>have moved to this neighborhood from the county over or

1:41:08.040 --> 1:41:11.400
<v Speaker 4>whatever else, but it wasn't like they were vaulting up

1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:14.000
<v Speaker 4>and down throughout tax brackets. It was pretty much a

1:41:14.400 --> 1:41:17.360
<v Speaker 4>similar type of lifestyle. They just were here versus there,

1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:20.280
<v Speaker 4>because that's just how their families were where they were

1:41:20.320 --> 1:41:20.760
<v Speaker 4>growing up.

1:41:21.720 --> 1:41:22.559
<v Speaker 3>So what's the question.

1:41:23.200 --> 1:41:27.000
<v Speaker 4>So the question is like, does does that do you

1:41:27.240 --> 1:41:30.560
<v Speaker 4>view that differently versus like, say, like compared like a

1:41:30.640 --> 1:41:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Kanye West who like jump tries to vault into say

1:41:32.960 --> 1:41:35.040
<v Speaker 4>like street urban culture in that regard in his twenties,

1:41:35.320 --> 1:41:37.240
<v Speaker 4>and he didn't grow up that way. He just wasn't

1:41:37.240 --> 1:41:39.719
<v Speaker 4>from you know, the neighborhood he's talking about.

1:41:40.880 --> 1:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, like I've thought a lot of times like

1:41:44.200 --> 1:41:46.559
<v Speaker 1>it's Kanye hip hop, right, because I already knew Drake

1:41:46.640 --> 1:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't hip hop.

1:41:47.280 --> 1:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I knew he because I had talked to him.

1:41:49.000 --> 1:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I've listened to him talk a lot of times in

1:41:50.880 --> 1:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>real life, Like I could already tell he was like

1:41:54.439 --> 1:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>this different kind of kid.

1:41:55.479 --> 1:41:58.040
<v Speaker 3>He was, like he's really a Jewish kid from Canada,

1:41:58.120 --> 1:41:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Like he's not like his father.

1:42:00.240 --> 1:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a brother, but he didn't He's not culturally anything

1:42:04.320 --> 1:42:05.599
<v Speaker 1>like street urban culture.

1:42:05.960 --> 1:42:07.920
<v Speaker 3>He really grew up culturally a Jewish man.

1:42:08.680 --> 1:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So even talking to him, if you talk to because

1:42:11.280 --> 1:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>just listen to him talk because you could tell like

1:42:13.080 --> 1:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>he not cold, which and this is because.

1:42:14.840 --> 1:42:16.599
<v Speaker 3>It's really just like a different kind of guy.

1:42:17.160 --> 1:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Kanye was always hard for me to understand because Kanye

1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>West is from Chicago, you know, and again, like blackness

1:42:23.479 --> 1:42:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago's it's just natural. It's it's hard pressed for

1:42:26.560 --> 1:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>la nigga even imagine a Chicago where niggas ain't at

1:42:30.640 --> 1:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>because when I go to Chicago, it's just niggas everywhere,

1:42:34.120 --> 1:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So, but you know, you

1:42:36.920 --> 1:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>take into account how his mom, you know what I mean.

1:42:39.120 --> 1:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>She was a doctor, you know, she she was a

1:42:40.600 --> 1:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>professor at a college. She put him through the best programs.

1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:46.439
<v Speaker 1>She went to a lot of good schools, you know,

1:42:46.960 --> 1:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>art school. You know, he is definitely a privileged type

1:42:50.360 --> 1:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>of kid, you know, from a black perspective. So I

1:42:56.439 --> 1:43:00.439
<v Speaker 1>just struggle to believe that he's not baptised the street

1:43:00.520 --> 1:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>urban culture.

1:43:01.120 --> 1:43:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Now it's not impossible. Again, I'm not sure. I don't know.

1:43:05.360 --> 1:43:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know him. That's gonna lead to.

1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>My next question is when did he get into music

1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>at what age? But the music ain't hip hop, Like

1:43:13.960 --> 1:43:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the artistic expression of street urban culture is what hip

1:43:16.800 --> 1:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>hop is. It's the artistic expression. It's using music to

1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>express street urban culture. I just can't believe that there's

1:43:24.960 --> 1:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a place in Chicago. And I could be wrong. I mean,

1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:33.240
<v Speaker 1>because I've heard from both sides, Like some people who

1:43:33.320 --> 1:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>love Kanye try to lie, but then the other people

1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, g he did grow.

1:43:36.160 --> 1:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Up in the suburb, but he ran with these people.

1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:39.800
<v Speaker 3>So I just don't know enough.

1:43:39.880 --> 1:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>But some of it just don't seem rooted in blackness,

1:43:45.240 --> 1:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I think it's just

1:43:47.680 --> 1:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the book of Yay. Like I don't

1:43:50.960 --> 1:43:54.439
<v Speaker 1>think Ye represents blackness as much as Yay represents ya

1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>does it? So no, so pt your point. It's like,

1:44:03.400 --> 1:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>even if you move around in Los Angeles, shout out

1:44:05.680 --> 1:44:07.639
<v Speaker 1>to everybody who moved around in Los Angeles. You might've

1:44:07.680 --> 1:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>lived in the a Trade, you might have moved to

1:44:09.320 --> 1:44:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the Great Streets, you might have moved to the form dogs,

1:44:12.240 --> 1:44:14.679
<v Speaker 1>of counting. You might have moved around, but culturally they're

1:44:14.720 --> 1:44:16.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be pretty much.

1:44:18.080 --> 1:44:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Grew up in Fresno than you live in North Las

1:44:19.960 --> 1:44:21.400
<v Speaker 4>Vegas now you in south central LA.

1:44:21.920 --> 1:44:25.599
<v Speaker 1>But even that, they're still kind of all the same.

1:44:25.960 --> 1:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>If you live close to people without something, sure, that's that's.

1:44:29.800 --> 1:44:31.400
<v Speaker 4>Kind of what I'm at.

1:44:31.600 --> 1:44:34.720
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think Yay's thing is I think he

1:44:35.000 --> 1:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>grew up with something, So like we have those in Courson,

1:44:39.560 --> 1:44:40.240
<v Speaker 1>like Da.

1:44:42.360 --> 1:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Like Delamo.

1:44:43.560 --> 1:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Delamo is like a suburb that's close to Compton,

1:44:48.400 --> 1:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's a suburb. But them dudes be baptized at

1:44:51.360 --> 1:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Street or been coaching. So like, I need to get

1:44:55.240 --> 1:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>more information with the Chicago hummies about where it's at

1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>because I'm thinking, like, in my mind, I want to

1:45:01.240 --> 1:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>believe he grew up in a Carson. I don't know,

1:45:03.240 --> 1:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I have zero ideas, but I think the reality is, uh, Pete,

1:45:08.920 --> 1:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he grew up in Cerritos.

1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Who say, yeah, I think he was further out than Carson.

1:45:14.080 --> 1:45:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Here in California. No, No pete, Chicago.

1:45:18.280 --> 1:45:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Srito Soritos is.

1:45:21.360 --> 1:45:26.719
<v Speaker 4>Like I think he grew up in Belmont Shores, Long Beach.

1:45:28.880 --> 1:45:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think sure, But I'm saying I think the

1:45:31.760 --> 1:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>problem is it is like like if you grew up

1:45:34.000 --> 1:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>in Crito's and your mom puts you through good schools

1:45:36.800 --> 1:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and you see some people like you might be fifteen

1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>minutes from where street urban culture comes from, but you

1:45:41.800 --> 1:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>but I think he's five minutes away from street urban culture.

1:45:45.360 --> 1:45:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when you're growing up, you're not going those five minutes.

1:45:48.760 --> 1:45:49.719
<v Speaker 4>You're not going anywhere.

1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:51.679
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's the thing.

1:45:52.000 --> 1:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But do people talk he did anybody hear from people

1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that grew up with him? And do they talk about

1:45:58.280 --> 1:46:01.840
<v Speaker 1>him growing up? Yeah, they knew it making music. They

1:46:01.840 --> 1:46:03.519
<v Speaker 1>would say he'd be at a party or something. Not

1:46:03.560 --> 1:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>they didn't go to high school with him or nothing.

1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Like the people grow you know

1:46:08.160 --> 1:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>where he went to high school, junior high things like that,

1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Like where's those friends at That's that's a couple of

1:46:13.720 --> 1:46:17.519
<v Speaker 1>the dudes. But it's just different, Okay, yay, Yeah, is

1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a unique product. I think he was raised to be

1:46:20.920 --> 1:46:23.719
<v Speaker 1>the greatest man he could be, not necessarily the greatest

1:46:23.720 --> 1:46:26.439
<v Speaker 1>black man he could be. That's what it feels like.

1:46:28.520 --> 1:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Or he decided on his own, like you know what,

1:46:31.240 --> 1:46:33.479
<v Speaker 1>fuck being black. I'm Finela gonna be the greatest Kanye.

1:46:34.720 --> 1:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not black, I'm Kanye.

1:46:36.640 --> 1:46:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay, he seems like, and you get this around academics

1:46:42.640 --> 1:46:47.280
<v Speaker 4>and academic circles or whatever, some scenarios he was told

1:46:47.360 --> 1:46:51.120
<v Speaker 4>he's a little too special a few too many times.

1:46:52.680 --> 1:46:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Royal Jenkins glasses. I'm from Chicago.

1:46:56.400 --> 1:46:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Kanye older than me, and he came out of Oakland

1:46:58.560 --> 1:47:00.439
<v Speaker 1>or suburb about the Chicago. I know that, but I'm

1:47:00.479 --> 1:47:03.479
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how far is Oakland from where

1:47:04.120 --> 1:47:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the south side of Chicago.

1:47:05.360 --> 1:47:08.840
<v Speaker 4>They're like, and not mileage wise, but culturally wise.

1:47:08.680 --> 1:47:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, culturally wise, how far is it?

1:47:10.560 --> 1:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Like like like in La right, like we all from

1:47:12.960 --> 1:47:15.479
<v Speaker 1>the East Side, we all grew up. Don grew up

1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>in Compton. I grew up in Compton the wise, like

1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:20.360
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I to take you over there, Lynnwood,

1:47:20.479 --> 1:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Long Beach. All of that hit between the seventeen and

1:47:23.880 --> 1:47:26.679
<v Speaker 1>all of that is where street urban culture comes from.

1:47:27.000 --> 1:47:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Right between the motherfucking one ten.

1:47:29.120 --> 1:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Hell, between the four five and the seventeen for that matter,

1:47:32.920 --> 1:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is where street urban culture out in La right, but

1:47:35.680 --> 1:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>then their suburbs right close to them that people still

1:47:39.880 --> 1:47:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody go to school together.

1:47:41.280 --> 1:47:43.080
<v Speaker 3>In Paramount, it can get street urban culture.

1:47:43.120 --> 1:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Paaramount is a little suburb of necessarily, but it's still

1:47:47.280 --> 1:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>very much street urban culture. You go to the next

1:47:49.880 --> 1:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>city over from Pearamount, you in Lakewood. Lakewood is still

1:47:53.800 --> 1:47:57.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of close in, but Lakewood ain't street urban culture.

1:47:57.720 --> 1:47:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's not.

1:47:58.400 --> 1:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Hell no, but it's close enough to where it could

1:48:01.439 --> 1:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit Bellflower a little further, but it

1:48:05.160 --> 1:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of still could kind of be so Ritos it

1:48:07.240 --> 1:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>ain't at all.

1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Wow, Yeah, Sorito's in like downy, you're stretching it pretty thin.

1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't have none of that kind of stuff there,

1:48:14.800 --> 1:48:18.800
<v Speaker 1>not really, because there's opportunities, there's things that you can

1:48:18.840 --> 1:48:21.439
<v Speaker 1>have access to. You you're going to Okay, you're going

1:48:21.520 --> 1:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to start seeing other successful people that don't just come

1:48:24.240 --> 1:48:24.839
<v Speaker 1>from streetlight.

1:48:25.120 --> 1:48:27.960
<v Speaker 3>You're going to see their success. How about that? Like,

1:48:28.040 --> 1:48:29.320
<v Speaker 3>so you know what I mean?

1:48:29.800 --> 1:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Is it still urban there? Shout out to shout out yes,

1:48:33.280 --> 1:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Disney populated. Shout out to Beijing. Hip hop was birth

1:48:36.880 --> 1:48:38.720
<v Speaker 1>in the party room, down the streets. It was birth

1:48:38.800 --> 1:48:41.240
<v Speaker 1>in the party room and the projects, not just any party.

1:48:41.760 --> 1:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Stop trying to take that out of its poor party.

1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not rich party. If it was, if it was

1:48:46.160 --> 1:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a rich party, they have a fucking band. They're not

1:48:48.040 --> 1:48:50.720
<v Speaker 1>two broke fucking vinyls. Dog. This is your problem. I

1:48:50.760 --> 1:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>know you won't access to everything, but just listen.

1:48:54.000 --> 1:49:00.439
<v Speaker 4>I think the line, so to speak, is like where

1:49:00.439 --> 1:49:04.720
<v Speaker 4>you grew up is selling drugs the opportunity for a

1:49:04.760 --> 1:49:07.000
<v Speaker 4>come up or the opportunity for a come down.

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<v Speaker 1>So so this is the weird part, right, It's like,

1:49:16.479 --> 1:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>this is something to really help you, right, Like in Compton,

1:49:22.320 --> 1:49:24.760
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent, let's say ninety it's probably ninety nine, but

1:49:24.880 --> 1:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of successful things you gonna see, things that

1:49:27.920 --> 1:49:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you will want come from people doing the wrong things.

1:49:32.760 --> 1:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say, Pete, Like when you go

1:49:35.200 --> 1:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>through Comptent or something, or you go through let's say,

1:49:38.280 --> 1:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>like the Jungles, ninety percent of the cool shit to have,

1:49:42.200 --> 1:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the things you will want come from people doing the

1:49:44.160 --> 1:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>wrong things to get them.

1:49:45.920 --> 1:49:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's probably fair. Even people who have the same

1:49:48.840 --> 1:49:51.360
<v Speaker 4>amount of money as the other person in those environments

1:49:52.720 --> 1:49:55.559
<v Speaker 4>are stowing it away. You're not going you're seeing it.

1:49:55.560 --> 1:49:57.720
<v Speaker 4>It's probably not it's probably kind of.

1:49:57.720 --> 1:50:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Nefarious, okay. Right, And then so it's like great, point.

1:50:03.240 --> 1:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Marcus Mitchell who makes a great point.

1:50:05.040 --> 1:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>What about View Park wins your heels for la street

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<v Speaker 1>am culture. That's a great point. Like the overhels, right,

1:50:10.000 --> 1:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but the overheels is right next to it, right, so

1:50:15.240 --> 1:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you right here next to street aurbriculture. You go to

1:50:17.320 --> 1:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>school with everybody from street urban culture. Right. But then

1:50:20.360 --> 1:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>your parents people got some money, so you still kind

1:50:23.360 --> 1:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of be baptized, your baptizing the culture, even if you

1:50:26.040 --> 1:50:30.679
<v Speaker 1>don't the tree shades the community. The overheels are probably

1:50:32.280 --> 1:50:34.720
<v Speaker 1>really the most dangerous sixties and shut out to all

1:50:34.720 --> 1:50:36.439
<v Speaker 1>the ag homes. They'd be mad if I said this,

1:50:36.600 --> 1:50:39.679
<v Speaker 1>But like them, niggas are the worst because they got

1:50:39.680 --> 1:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>something to prove. Same thing with the Dilamo niggas, like

1:50:42.160 --> 1:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>when you go to jail with the one nine zers.

1:50:43.880 --> 1:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>They was always the worst niggas because they was always

1:50:47.040 --> 1:50:49.479
<v Speaker 1>trying to prove a point. I mean, so they were

1:50:49.479 --> 1:50:51.639
<v Speaker 1>always over the top. They were on game bang too hard,

1:50:51.680 --> 1:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>over the top. But here's the thing, so this is

1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>how it looks. And Compton and watch wats ninety for

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<v Speaker 1>sure nine nine percent everything you would want to have.

1:51:03.120 --> 1:51:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Somebody doing the wrong thing got it right. Because it's

1:51:06.600 --> 1:51:08.479
<v Speaker 1>the only thing you associate with success if it's not

1:51:08.479 --> 1:51:14.240
<v Speaker 1>on TV. The best cars, d boys, pimps, gang bangers,

1:51:14.280 --> 1:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the best, the best, everything, best, closed, best all that.

1:51:17.400 --> 1:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what you see and you don't know nothing else.

1:51:19.400 --> 1:51:23.439
<v Speaker 1>You disadvantages. Now you move over to let's let's slide

1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:25.479
<v Speaker 1>down between the one oh five and the ninety one.

1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>So you started watching Compton Linnwood, that's how you see.

1:51:29.800 --> 1:51:30.639
<v Speaker 3>You get to Linwood.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's like ninety percent because now some people that's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to have stuff. You move over to Downy Paaramount

1:51:37.920 --> 1:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>probably a lot closer to sixty percent. Now you're starting

1:51:40.360 --> 1:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to see regular people that work a regular career or

1:51:43.960 --> 1:51:46.439
<v Speaker 1>have a good career have some cool stuff that you

1:51:46.479 --> 1:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>will want. So you see there's options still about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty sixty percent.

1:51:50.880 --> 1:51:53.400
<v Speaker 3>People do get better too in those areas. Yeah. So

1:51:53.520 --> 1:51:55.800
<v Speaker 3>remember I grew up in Compton and watch my mom

1:51:55.840 --> 1:51:57.120
<v Speaker 3>put me in Pairamun.

1:51:56.720 --> 1:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Because they had ap classes. Okay, so that's only ten

1:51:59.240 --> 1:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>minutes from Compton. Oh it's only ten minutes.

1:52:01.439 --> 1:52:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Think about it.

1:52:02.040 --> 1:52:04.720
<v Speaker 1>The exit from my neighborhood right when Imperial Courts and

1:52:04.960 --> 1:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the seven is at is Womington. The next exit is

1:52:07.400 --> 1:52:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Long Beacht. The next exit is Garfield. That school is

1:52:10.280 --> 1:52:13.519
<v Speaker 1>off Garfield. Oh okay, but it's it's a world away.

1:52:13.960 --> 1:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>So Paramount, you know, Paramount and Downey you know, I

1:52:19.640 --> 1:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>mean Downey start having some really nice shit. Downey is

1:52:23.400 --> 1:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like Mexican Beverly Hills. I mean that, like, they'll have

1:52:27.280 --> 1:52:31.360
<v Speaker 1>some shit. So you get you the more you move east, right,

1:52:31.479 --> 1:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you start seeing regular people have things worth having. So

1:52:34.920 --> 1:52:37.559
<v Speaker 1>you realize that these things are obtainable by doing this,

1:52:37.720 --> 1:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>by doing something good, not doing well, doing something because

1:52:41.360 --> 1:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't think nothing is good or bad. You don't

1:52:43.000 --> 1:52:45.559
<v Speaker 1>think of the d boys bad and wise. You don't

1:52:45.600 --> 1:52:48.240
<v Speaker 1>really that nigga just havn't it. I mean you start

1:52:48.280 --> 1:52:50.599
<v Speaker 1>to realize it to age where you realize. You get

1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to an age we're like, oh yeah, this is bad. Yeah,

1:52:52.720 --> 1:52:54.800
<v Speaker 1>But by then you way deep.

1:52:55.240 --> 1:52:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean you just.

1:52:57.080 --> 1:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Kind of know it's against the law. But again, growing

1:52:59.000 --> 1:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>up around here, the law never ooo your life. That's

1:53:01.040 --> 1:53:02.599
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You can change to do whatever you want

1:53:02.640 --> 1:53:04.639
<v Speaker 1>to any time. Lords you didn't get stuck in prison

1:53:04.720 --> 1:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life. Well, again, you you're trying

1:53:07.080 --> 1:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to be successful, so you you feel like your options

1:53:10.280 --> 1:53:12.639
<v Speaker 1>is limited because there's only as far as you can see.

1:53:13.640 --> 1:53:16.320
<v Speaker 1>How about that, Pete, does that make sense? Your options

1:53:16.360 --> 1:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>as far as you can see for most humans?

1:53:19.520 --> 1:53:20.439
<v Speaker 3>Is that agree?

1:53:20.600 --> 1:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>That fair lunch table? Your option is different as far

1:53:22.880 --> 1:53:23.679
<v Speaker 1>as you can see.

1:53:23.760 --> 1:53:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I agree?

1:53:25.560 --> 1:53:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Right, So you move there, boom, you move further east.

1:53:29.120 --> 1:53:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Now you over here in Paramount. Now it's about sixty

1:53:32.720 --> 1:53:34.680
<v Speaker 1>forty sixty percent of people doing the wrong things got

1:53:34.680 --> 1:53:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the coolest shit. But there is forty percent of people

1:53:36.640 --> 1:53:38.840
<v Speaker 1>doing some regular shit that got some all right shit.

1:53:39.680 --> 1:53:44.320
<v Speaker 1>You move further west. Now you're in Lakewood. Now, Lakewood

1:53:44.560 --> 1:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is seventy thirty thirty percent of the people doing the

1:53:49.200 --> 1:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>wrong thing got some cool shit. Seventy percent is people

1:53:52.080 --> 1:53:52.720
<v Speaker 1>doing the right thing.

1:53:52.760 --> 1:53:55.640
<v Speaker 3>That's in Lakewood. Just in Lakewood. Yeah, the place I

1:53:55.720 --> 1:53:56.000
<v Speaker 3>ain't that.

1:53:56.080 --> 1:53:57.760
<v Speaker 1>The place they got a fence around the store and

1:53:57.800 --> 1:54:04.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff which target or something like that. No, okay, that's Paramount, Yeah,

1:54:04.360 --> 1:54:07.479
<v Speaker 1>something about it. Right, So Lakewood is like the seventy

1:54:07.560 --> 1:54:10.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty seventy percent of the people doing the right things,

1:54:10.200 --> 1:54:14.080
<v Speaker 1>by eyes have the coolest shit. Only thirty percent. You

1:54:14.160 --> 1:54:18.240
<v Speaker 1>get the bellflower, it's pretty much ninety ten, eighty twenty

1:54:18.320 --> 1:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>ninety ten. Most people that got the coolest shit doing

1:54:21.640 --> 1:54:24.439
<v Speaker 1>something that's legal. You can see it. You can see

1:54:24.479 --> 1:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>what they do. It's gonna be obvious. They got the

1:54:26.680 --> 1:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>coolest shit. And ten twenty percent of people gonna be

1:54:30.040 --> 1:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>doing bullshit. Shout out to my homeboys from seven oh

1:54:32.200 --> 1:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>six hustlers, Like it's gonna be ten percent. The rest

1:54:35.480 --> 1:54:38.240
<v Speaker 1>of the people got some cool shit. You get the Soritos.

1:54:38.480 --> 1:54:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if people doing the wrong thing

1:54:40.240 --> 1:54:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in Toritos. Like there's really no place to go in

1:54:44.520 --> 1:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Critos where people is doing the wrong thing.

1:54:47.640 --> 1:54:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody got nice shit and they all do

1:54:50.400 --> 1:54:55.200
<v Speaker 3>some cool shit. How far Cerritos from Watsa Compton.

1:54:55.000 --> 1:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen fucking minutes, it's straight up to You could take

1:54:59.160 --> 1:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the one five with no traffic.

1:55:02.280 --> 1:55:03.680
<v Speaker 3>What is it Pete.

1:55:03.400 --> 1:55:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Stick's exits with no traffic. It's very cool.

1:55:06.080 --> 1:55:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's basically just about the six oh five interchange

1:55:09.880 --> 1:55:12.480
<v Speaker 4>about them that's Norwalk but is right there off six

1:55:12.520 --> 1:55:12.920
<v Speaker 4>oh five.

1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>They got a mall there, how about that? Yeah, you

1:55:17.160 --> 1:55:19.800
<v Speaker 1>get to Lakewood and Toritos, there's malls there.

1:55:19.920 --> 1:55:20.880
<v Speaker 4>They have a studio.

1:55:21.080 --> 1:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>When it was down there Stignal Hills. So where my

1:55:24.000 --> 1:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>studio was at was in Signalhood. That's Long Beach, but

1:55:26.480 --> 1:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that's this particular roped off area that's not about Lakewood

1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:31.760
<v Speaker 1>going because I thought I used to go through Lakewood

1:55:31.840 --> 1:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Lakewood Boulevard Street, Okay, So Hill is like you ain't

1:55:36.240 --> 1:55:38.920
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be there as a nigga. They q you

1:55:39.040 --> 1:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>like the police like that's how much that's all suburb Okay,

1:55:43.280 --> 1:55:47.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's different. So that's my point. I'm saying, that's

1:55:47.240 --> 1:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>how you size up success and what you think you

1:55:49.480 --> 1:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>can see and be and do you know what I'm saying.

1:55:53.160 --> 1:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying is like that's what makes

1:55:55.640 --> 1:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>street urban culture is when you feel like the wrong

1:55:58.160 --> 1:56:00.080
<v Speaker 1>because all you know is the wrong thing is a

1:56:00.120 --> 1:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>way to have something.

1:56:02.040 --> 1:56:03.160
<v Speaker 3>That's what it's all about.

1:56:03.760 --> 1:56:09.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you go up in Watts Compton, man, what

1:56:11.560 --> 1:56:15.200
<v Speaker 1>every car whatever you want, the wrong fuck is doing?

1:56:15.280 --> 1:56:17.840
<v Speaker 1>The bullet hut got it? It revived me myself. Walked

1:56:17.880 --> 1:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>through the blocks of this nice neighborhood. Yeah, go ahead,

1:56:24.080 --> 1:56:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a nice day. You want to.

1:56:29.160 --> 1:56:32.920
<v Speaker 3>So it's like it's like it's like you know what

1:56:32.960 --> 1:56:35.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, It's like that's the trick.

1:56:35.360 --> 1:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm saying, when you've been trying to

1:56:36.800 --> 1:56:40.680
<v Speaker 1>explain this to people, shout out to Royal Jenkins, Yes

1:56:40.720 --> 1:56:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that is ain't Lakewood where that changed snatch with death

1:56:43.880 --> 1:56:46.280
<v Speaker 1>ron or Land there and say yes, yes, yes, that's

1:56:46.320 --> 1:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>where that fight happened at. So that's where everybody from

1:56:50.040 --> 1:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the east side would go to the mall. Like so

1:56:51.640 --> 1:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody from the west side of the One Team right,

1:56:53.600 --> 1:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the Hoovers, the neighborhoods, the gangsters day mall was the

1:56:58.600 --> 1:57:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Fox Hills Mall are mall on the east side. When

1:57:02.720 --> 1:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you're on this side of the one ten, right, that's

1:57:04.480 --> 1:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Long Beach, that's Compton, that's Watts, that's Lynnwood, the Lakewood mall.

1:57:12.040 --> 1:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So you would go to this mall to go spend

1:57:14.000 --> 1:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>some money or look to get in a fight because

1:57:16.680 --> 1:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody different would be there.

1:57:18.680 --> 1:57:23.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's tricky, man, It's it's hell of tricky. This

1:57:23.640 --> 1:57:24.120
<v Speaker 3>is tricky.

1:57:24.240 --> 1:57:27.200
<v Speaker 1>It really is Long Beasts too, so it's like it's

1:57:27.240 --> 1:57:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like different what I mean.

1:57:29.400 --> 1:57:32.360
<v Speaker 3>So, but that's my point. That's what street urban culture is.

1:57:32.400 --> 1:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Street urban culture is densely populated, crime written communities. The

1:57:39.400 --> 1:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>culture that comes from that. Now that culture can keep

1:57:43.040 --> 1:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>going somewhere. It's in Paramount guess what they got ship too.

1:57:48.040 --> 1:57:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It's in bell it's in Lakewood a little bit. It's

1:57:50.560 --> 1:57:53.240
<v Speaker 1>in Bellflower a little bit, but it's not in Curritos.

1:57:54.640 --> 1:57:56.920
<v Speaker 1>There is no street urban culture in Toritos.

1:57:57.360 --> 1:57:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Well that's heavy.

1:57:58.560 --> 1:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>There is none. And with cultures there in ci Ritos,

1:58:03.280 --> 1:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just mainstream America suburbia. Okay, they got a mall

1:58:07.800 --> 1:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>wright and smack. There's not even a big place. It's

1:58:09.720 --> 1:58:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a mall, bunch of really nice houses. No, none of that.

1:58:14.000 --> 1:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Your urban culture inside the mall. Urban is densely populated.

1:58:18.800 --> 1:58:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's a disney populated place. It's very much it's

1:58:22.120 --> 1:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>disney populated. But even in urban.

1:58:24.920 --> 1:58:27.120
<v Speaker 4>There are in the parking lot of Torito's College.

1:58:28.320 --> 1:58:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It's close, you go get that's close, you gonna get

1:58:30.880 --> 1:58:31.480
<v Speaker 3>to the streets.

1:58:31.560 --> 1:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's and that's because it's right there by Norwalk that.

1:58:38.000 --> 1:58:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Their sports pull a lot of athletes in from other

1:58:41.160 --> 1:58:45.680
<v Speaker 4>parts of the county. And you never know, junior college

1:58:45.720 --> 1:58:46.960
<v Speaker 4>athletes are a different breed.

1:58:48.080 --> 1:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they couldn't come from some yeah ship, we.

1:58:55.840 --> 1:59:00.800
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<v Speaker 1>the video and everything, so it's gonna be really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna drop a single every two to three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna be interesting. Yeah. I never thought about that.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, we're gonna have to expand on that. That

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<v Speaker 1>that's really what it is. When wrong is right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you know you in the ghetto.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you said that before. Though we're wrong is right,

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<v Speaker 3>We're socially wrong is right? Yeah you said that before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Year